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A
All
right
welcome
to
the
jenkins
documentation
special
interest
group
office
hours.
It's
the
18th
of
january
proposed
topics,
pull
request,
progress,
contributor
summit
proposal.
Let's
call
it
an
outline
jenkins
in
google
summer
of
code
and
jenkins
wiki
plan.
Anything
else,
meg
that
you'd
like
to
put
on
the
list.
B
If,
if
you
mean
I'd
like
to
talk
about
some
sort
of
doc,
do
it
publicizing
the
the
doc
in
this
meeting
for
people
who
haven't
contributed
before.
B
A
Okay,
then,
let's
go
ahead
and
run
through
it.
So
first
item
pull
request
progress.
I
made
no
progress
in
the
last
week
on
the
scaling
jenkins
on
kubernetes
pull
requests.
I
did
talk
to
kristen
whetstone
about
it
and
she's
agreed
to
help
me
next
week
to
diagnose
whatever
my
problems
are
so
okay,
kristen
and
mark
met
last
week.
B
B
A
She
is,
she
is
a
nigerian
woman
who
is
also
a
leader
in
the
in
the
coding
community
there
in
nigeria.
A
And-
and
so
it's
it's
good
and
it
re
it
reminds
us.
There
are
several
things
I
learned
from
doing
that.
One
was
okay,
so
zenob
is
a
nigerian
writer,
a
developer
and
writer,
and
she
works
in
a
tech
company
there,
google
summer
or
season
of
docs
doc's
writer
for
us.
So
she
wrote
for
us
for
three
months.
Google
paid
her
and
she
still
continued.
A
We
meet
with
her
every
thursday
so
but
there
were
some
complexities
there
that
that,
as
we
tried
to
approach
this
one
was
we
learned
that
that
internet
is
not
always
on
and
is
not
always
high,
speed
right
and
what
that
meant
was.
We
switched
switched
off
video
pure
screen,
sharing
and
accepted
that
sometimes
she
was
dialing
in
for
a
phone.
A
Now
I
don't
know
what
it
means
to
join
from
a
phone
or
from
another
device
if
she's
coming
internationally.
If
that
means
she's
incurring
extra
charges
or
whatnot,
it
was,
but
she
was
willing
to
do
that
and
it
seemed
to
work
okay.
So
long
as
we
took
and
notes
were
important
and
recording
the
the
call.
The
meeting
was
extra
important.
B
A
And
oh,
the
other
thing
we
learned
was
that
time
zone
matters
right
because
it
had
to
be
after
her
work
in
nigeria,
her
working
day
in
nigeria,
but
within
waking
hours
for
mentors.
A
B
A
You
know
so
google
season
of
docs
is
a
a
highly
promoted
program
promoted
by
by
google,
but
it's
it
has.
It
has
a
a
challenge
in
that
it's
a
limited
set
of
potential
contributors
right.
B
B
And
what
I'm
thinking
of
I
mean?
Let's
face
it
part
of
it.
Is
I'm
banking
off
you
being
you?
You
know,
anybody
who
shows
up
here
is
going
to
get
the
sort
of
treatment
that
somebody
new
needs
to
get
to
get
enclosed.
So
to
me,
it's
a
matter
of
publicizing
and
because
I
can
see
this
as
being
a
starter
drug
for
somebody
who
might
want
to
contribute
software
rather
than
docs.
B
B
Know
it's
sort
of
like
anybody
could
come
in
and
you
know
replace
a
comma
with
a
period
or
fix
it.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
trivial
stuff
that
anybody
could
do
with
docs
I
mean
vlad
is
on
beyond
zebra
and
caliber.
People
like
that
are
certainly
always
welcome
too,
but
that's
what
I
was
thinking
of
this
as
sort
of
a
starter
drug
as
a
way
just
to
open
up
the
j,
because
I've
dealt
with
a
couple
of
other
like
boy
that
openstack
community.
A
A
B
B
But
so
I'm
seeing
this
as
you
know,
so
it's
sort
of
a
way
to
say
come
on
and,
like
you
guys
did
it
used
to
do
it
jenkins
worlds
kind
of
you
know
come
in
and
do
something
and
look.
A
B
And
if
you're
really
interested,
what
else
would
you
like
to
do?
You
know
I
figure
we'll
get
if
we're
lucky.
Fifty
percent
of
the
people
who
come
in
you
know
they'll
come
in
and
they'll
do
a
couple
of
things
and
it's
okay.
That
was
fun
for
my
resume
and
they'll
move
on,
but
if
we
could
50
or
even
25
of
them,
decide
to
hang
around
and
contribute,
that's
a
big
boon
for
us.
A
B
B
B
So
how
would
we
so
what
I'm
thinking
is
I'm
I
was
thinking
about
posting
we've,
gotta
slack
channel
the
diversity
people
to
put
this
up
as
a
because
I'd
like
to
let
them
do
as
much
of
the
publicities.
We
can
get
them
to
do
right
and
I'm
I'm
being
maybe
the
best
thing
I
can
think
is
that
we
announce
on
a
certain
day
we're
having
a
special
docs
office
hours
that
is
targeted
for
first-time
contributors,
and
we
can
walk
through
everybody's
got
to
they
fork
and
clone.
B
A
B
B
A
A
Now
jonathan
used
a
great
technique
and
daniel
beck
reminded
me
that
we
we
need
more
of
this.
A
We
have
lots
and
lots
of
wiki
transformation
steps
that
need
to
be
done
now.
Wiki
transformation
is
not
a
simple.
It's
the
the
easy
ones
are
largely
done.
It's
not
as
trivial
as
just
transform
it.
It's
you've
actually
got
to
write
the
documentation
using
the
wiki
as
a
good
source
of
information,
but
as
part
of
this
wiki
plan
here,
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
do
is
eventually
replace
wiki.jenkins.io
with
content.
That's
on
the
jenkins
site.
B
A
One
of
the
chat.
One
of
the
challenges
is
we
need
experts
who
can
look
at
a
page.
Let's
choose
an
arbitrary
page.
Actually,
let's
go
even
one
worse,
we're
going
to
choose
a
page
that
is
we're
going
to
choose
a
high
frequency
page.
Oh,
oh,
I
know
where
I
can
find
one
hang
on.
I
can
find
it
like
this.
A
The
jenkins
wiki
exporter
has
in
it
a
list
of
top
urls.
Here
we
go
okay,
so
here
are
the
most
frequently
accessed
urls.
So
here's
a
fascinating
one,
parameterized
build
and
we've
we've
received
quite
a
number
of
requests
for
more
information
on.
How
do
you
parameterize
a
build?
But
in
this
case
this
page
talks
about
freestyle
projects.
A
Now
there
is
a
sheet
that
we've
been
using.
Where
is
it
this
one?
Yes,
the
wiki
conversion
pro
progress
page
that
jonathan
and
I
have
used
to
track
what
we're
doing
with
those
those
pages
so
here
is.
Here's
here
is
a
beginning
of
an
inventory
of
wiki
pages,
it's
only
150
pages,
but
it
is
150
pages
right
and
yeah.
So,
for
instance,
this
one,
I
think,
is
already
done.
A
B
A
And
and
the
hot
pages
parameter
defaults
option,
for
instance,
this
is
another
example
of
oh,
that's
more
information
about
parameters
I
know,
is
this
parameter
default?
Oh,
this
is
a
plug-in
document.
So
that's
that's
a
different
thing,
but
it
requires
somebody
to
read
each
of
these
and
and
recommend
what
the
action
is
for
that
thing.
Right.
A
Well,
and
let
me
let
me
put
links
to
these
this,
these,
these
information
sources,
see
the
wiki
progress
sheet
for
current
efforts,
and
this
is
also
in
old
copy,
older
notes
from
this
meeting,
because
jonathan
reviewed
him
with
us,
but
but
it's
it's
a
really
healthy
thing
to
avoid
duplicating
when
we've
already
got
it.
B
A
A
Yeah
well
well
see-
and
just
thinking
about
one
of
my
worries
here
is
that
many
of
these
pages
need
need.
Until
someone
has
done
this
initial
triage,
this
initial
review,
they
risk
doing
more
harm
than
good
if
they
attempt
to
transform
it
right,
because
many
of
them
will
take
the
wiki
exporter
and
will
say.
Oh
all
I
have
to
do
is
run
the
jenkins
wiki
exporter,
and
that
will
give
me
a
copy
of
the
page,
but
the
page
is
in
no
condition
to
be
placed
directly
into
into
jenkins
that
I
o
right.
It's
right.
A
A
A
Okay,
let's
see
what
so,
where
were
we
here
so
now
now
this
is
sort
of.
Maybe
what
we
talk
about
here
is
what
kinds
of
projects
might
suit
these
new
contributors
and
I'd
I'd
lobby
that
there's
there's
more.
There
are
several
right.
So
let's
talk
about
possible
new
or
good
first
projects
or
good
first
task
might
be
wiki
conversion,
but
I
think
even
better
than
wiki
conversion
is
plug-in
documentation,
conversion
from
wiki
to
github.
B
A
B
So
so
what
would
yeah
so?
And
so
this
probably
becomes?
I
mean
this
is
a
multi-stage
thing
right,
but
I'm
actually
thinking
we
might
ask,
we
might
tell
you
know,
tell
people
that
everybody
is
welcome,
but
ask
them
to
fill
out
a
form
ahead
of
time
so
that
a
we
have
an
idea
of
how
many
people,
but
on
there
we
can
ask
them
what
their
experience
is
both
with
jenkins
and
with
tech,
writing
and
anything
that
they're
particularly
interested
in
or
something
like
that.
You
know
so
that
so
that
we
can
prepare.
B
You
know,
and
it
might
be
you
get
you
get
somebody
who's.
You
know
terribly
interested
in
plugins
and
you
know
so
we
know
so
what
I'm
thinking
we
have
hour
long
sessions,
but
so
the
first
session.
Let's
what's
the
reason?
What
if
we
had
five
to
ten
people
who
show
and
of
course,
if
we
got
50
people
applying,
we
might
that
might
change
things.
But
let's
say
that
would
also
how
many
we're
gonna
have
so.
B
Let's
say
we
had
five
to
ten
people
show
up,
they
could
go
through
and
each
do
one
of
these
trivial
things
that
they
could
do
through
the
through
the
github
editor
right
and
then
we
could
talk
about
other
stuff,
and
then
we
could
have
another
session
where
we
start
out
with
how
they,
because
they're
not
going
to
want
to
do
too
much
that
if
they're
going
to
be
serious
here,
they
need
to
fork
and
clone
right,
and
we
could
have
another
session
where
we
start
out,
we'll
fork
and
clone
and
then
start
assigning.
B
A
B
Then
we
and
then
after
those
two,
though
we
sort
of
go
back
into
normal
doc
office
hours
right
that
each
week
they
come
and
what
they've
done
and
what
they
need
and
and
in
reviewing
the
pr
is
what
we
see:
that's,
not
clear,
etc,
and
with
any
luck
we
build
up
a
little
community
here.
I
don't
know
if
that'll
work
that
may
be
too
optimistic
right,
it
could
happen.
B
B
B
A
A
B
A
In
her
case,
it
was
that
mark
or
let's
see,
oleg
runs
windows.
B
B
A
And-
and
I
I
understand
that
right-
that's
that's,
and
so
what
she
did.
Xenob's
solution
was
a
virtual
machine,
running
linux
and
and
all
she
had
to
do
was
find
that
solution,
and
it
ran
now,
runs
on
her
windows.
Computer.
Just
fine.
It
just
happens
to
be
a
virtual
machine,
insider
windows,
computer
right.
B
I
was
thinking
more
of
getting
some
underserved
american
community.
We
get
africa
because
I
know
a
few
years
ago
I
was
involved
with
friends
who
were
in
ethiopia,
who
were
trying
to
get
computers
up
there,
and
I
was
bitching
because
they
were
giving
them
all
windows
not
limits
they
weren't
allowed
to
put
linux.
The
the
students
were
not
allowed
to
use.
They
were.
This
was
a
bunch
of
students
actually
and
the
universities
did
not
allow
anything
but
windows.
The
government
did
not
allow
anything
but
windows
for
there.
A
B
Yeah
and
they
you
their
response
to
a
brittle
infrastructure,
was
to
make
sure
everybody
was
running
roughly
the
same
things
and
and
of
course
nobody
can
afford
new
computers,
so
they're
all
getting
old
computers,
so
sure.
B
A
B
A
A
You
know
I
don't
know
how
to
reach
these
underserved
communities,
because
one
of
the
challenges
is
that
they
are
in
fact
difficult
to
reach
right.
It's.
I
don't
know
how
to
find
the
people
in
in
many
of
these
places
where
you
might
be
interested
in
helping,
but
it
has
to
fit
between
your
workday
and
your
family
and
all
the
other
complexities.
B
B
Disappointed
me,
because
it
was
all
this
talk
about.
Yes,
you
know
the
big
bad
white
men
treats
you
badly.
We
all
know
this
you're,
not
alone.
It's
not
you
end
of
story,
you
know,
and
it
was
like
you're
a
devops
world.
I
wanted
something
to
know
and
then
actually
for
this
year,
we
can
do
this
if
this
works
say
you
know,
if
you'd
like
to
get
involved,
here's
some
things
you
can
do
where
we
guarantee
it
will
be
safe.
B
A
Sorry
we
have.
We
have
several
upcoming
events,
just
like
this,
so
we've
got
fosdem
and
the
cicd
devru
that
is
being
sponsored
by
olivier
veronin,
okay,
and
we
could
ask
invite
him
to
see
if
it
would
be
allowed
to
do
a
brief
pitch.
We've
got,
I
believe
it's
june
has
cd
by
the
continuous
delivery
foundation.
A
Is
this
as
a
conference
as
well,
and
I'm
speaking
at
at
star
east?
The
software
testing
conference
in
april
can
plug
can
invite
people
to
assist
with
jenkins?
At
the
end
of
my
talk
right.
A
A
B
B
Good,
okay,
okay,
so
we've
got
this
well,
I
what
I'm
sort
of
thinking
is
lem,
I'm
going
to
ping.
If
you
are
you
can,
but
since
I
could
do
something
here,
I
don't
do
much.
I
could
ping
the
diversity
console
and
say
what
we
were
talking
about
and
you
know
that
we
needed
help.
You
know
defining
and
publicizing
this
to.
You
know,
give
them
a
high
level
and
see
if
they
thought
it
was
interesting
and
then
maybe
we
talked
to
them
and
then
we
can
start
moving
forward
on
plans.
B
It's,
I
think,
they're
largely,
you
know
targeted
on
getting
sasha
who
is
his
heart's
in
the
right
place,
but
when
he
goes
to
higher
and
exec,
he
seems
to
like
white
men.
B
So
I
think
that's
a
lot
of
their
energy
right
now.
You
know
and-
and
you
know
hiring
is
great,
but
this
is
a
way
to
bring
more
people
into
the
fold
right.
A
B
A
A
Great
all
right
next
topic
on
my
list
was
this
contributor
summit
proposal
outline
so
as
part
of
fosdem
we've.
Traditionally,
when
when
fosdem
was
a
face-to-face
event,
we
used
fosdem
as
a
way
to
also
ask
the
contributors
to
jenkins,
who
were
going
to
fosdem
to
come
a
day
early
and
to
join
us
for
a
contributor
summit
all
day
long.
So
this
year,
fosdem
is
virtual.
Only
it's
online,
only
but
we'd
like
to
roughly
two
one
to
two
weeks
after
fosdem
do
something
similar,
but
as
a
jenkins,
contributor
summit
online,
so
virtual.
B
A
A
And
then
assign
them
to
various
to
if
you
call
them
subgroups
and
then
subgroups
have
a
lead
that
finds
a
workable
time
for
the
members,
because
of
course,
when
we
were
all
sitting
together
in
belgium,
the
time
is
pretty
easy.
A
A
No
right
it's
well,
it
would
be.
I
would
be
surprised
if
someone
who
is
not
already
part
of
the
community
found
this
to
be
especially
effective.
They
probably
won't
because
they're
likely
going
to
drop
into
a
a
session
that
is
filled
with
experts,
or
that
has
several
very
expert
people
and
they'll
tend
to
be
a
little
intimidated.
Oh
I'm
not
an
expert
yet,
and-
and
so
I'm
not
sure
that
this
is
a
great,
first-time
contributor
experience.
A
A
A
A
B
A
B
Your
first
one,
by
the
way,
is
jenkins
master
to
jenkins
controller.
Oh.
B
B
And
then,
because
that
it's
just
in
the
text,
it's
easy,
but
then
there's
the
next
step.
There's
a
lot
of
screenshots.
B
A
B
B
A
B
B
But
yeah
well,
it
would
be
good
if
we
had
it
scheduled
by
fosdem,
then
too,
because
if
nothing
else,
you
could
mention
it
there.
You
know
if,
if
there's
too
many,
if
you're
getting
scared
by
all
the
big
words,
you
know
don't
fret,
you
know
pick
up
what
you
can
and
then
we've
got
this
other
session.
That's
planned
just
for.
B
A
Art
to
send
the
announcement
the
draft
within
the
next
one
to
two
days,
yeah.
B
One
tangent
here
do
we
is
there
a
place
for
oleg
to
also
have
coming
up?
I
mean
I
was
thinking
we
could
be
a
starter
drug
in
docs
and
if
people
were
really
interested
in
doing
more
software,
we
could
push
them
on
from
there.
But
maybe
oleg
wants
to
do
what
dick
and
jane
contribute?
Well,
there's
all
the
stuff
about
testing
that
we
talk
about
if
you're,
if
you
don't
have
something
big
to
contribute
as
new
code,
you
know,
but
testing
existing
stuff
is
a
good
starter
point
for.
A
Right
right,
well,
well,
and
and
certainly
we've
got-
we've
got
very,
very
precious,
so
precious
time
now
for
contributors,
because
the
jenkins
march
release
the
march
lts
release
needs
more
testers
and
more
developers.
B
A
A
Okay,
so
here
is
here:
is
the
jenkins
server
running
latest
long-term
support
release
and
we're
going
to
go
okay,
so
we're
going
to
make
this
larger
and
we're
going
to
go
edit,
the
job
definition
of
the
get
plug-ins
yeah?
Why
not
that's
good
this
job
definition?
If
I
do
configure
right
here
and
we
wait
patiently
while
it
loads,
okay,
so
notice
the
layout
on
the
screen
here,
okay,.
A
A
If
you
look
here,
you'll
see
all
right
notice
how
the
page
is
sort
of
centered
here
and
broader
here
notice
that
things
the
layout
here
is
starting
to
get
wide,
and
now,
if
I
make
this
page
smaller,
let's
see
if
I
made
my
screen
need
a
little
program
just
a
minute.
So
if
I
made
my
screen
as
though
I
were
running
on
come
on
sizer
here
we
go.
I
were
running
on
a
10
24
by
768
screen.
B
A
A
Some
uis,
where,
when
I
get
to
that
point,
it
gets
terrible
and
dramatic
how
bad
it
is.
It
really
is,
is
quite
difficult
to
administer
a
jenkins
server
from
a
screen.
That
is
this
narrow.
That's
only
1k
wide!
A
A
That
means
that
means
that
we've
got
some
plug-ins,
that
many
plug-ins
actually
that
need
their
need
to
be
extended
to
support
this
new
way
of
doing
the
ui,
and
so
so
there
are
lots
of
things
that
need
to
be
checked
to
be
sure
that
oh
does
this
work
the
way
I
expect
it
to
work
with
this
new
release
of
jenkins,
right
and
and
these
kind.
Now
I
I
tell
you
it's
a
much
prettier
ui
in
terms
of
well
just
just
right
here,
top
of
the
page
notice
that
the
help
icon
is
outside
of
the
frame.
B
A
B
A
Still
work
with
it
and
still
use
it,
whereas
when
I
do
it
here,
oh
my
it
has,
it
has
exploded,
you
notice,
I've
got
a
horizontal
scroll
bar
and
I've
got
to
do
all
sorts
of
horrible
things
in
order
to
interact
with
this.
Oh
in
order
to
click
this
button,
I
had
to
move
to
the
right.
Yes,
so
so
yes,
tables
to
divs
is
a
big
deal
and
it's
a
great
help,
but
we
need.
We
need
help.
B
B
B
A
With
with
getting
ready
for
it,
so
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
on
this
hey,
promoting
we
need,
we
need
need
more
hands,
helping
us
test
and
fix
ui
issues
in
the
table
to
div.
A
A
A
I
don't
think
that's
been
a
key
focus,
but
certainly
there's
no
reason
it
can't
be
done
when
visiting
a
a
plug-in
right
now.
I
think
the
first
focus
is
assure
that
the
ui
layout
is
not
completely
broken.
You
know
the.
B
A
A
B
A
B
A
So
so
it
is
the
the
new
ui
really
is
wonderful
in
terms
of
the
new.
The
ui
improvements
are
really
great
for
users,
but
we've
got
we
need
hands
to
help
us
be
sure
that
we've
got
it
ready
and
here
I'll
embed
that
link,
so
that
global
configuration
is
a
great
choice
of
one
that
shows
that
really
well
there
we
go.
B
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
Office
hours
I'll
have
to
discuss,
mark
discuss
with
cara
de
la
mark
and
oleg.
The
challenge
is
most
google
summer
of
code
really
is
by
its
nature
java
in
jenkins.
Right
and
that's
that's,
that's
the
high
value
thing.
That's
the
algorithmic
thing,
that's
the
place
where
lots
of
challenges
are
and
so
having
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
in
this
tables.
The
divs
code
doesn't
serve
them
well
as
an
applicant
to
google
summer
of
code
because
they
need
to
be
in
the
java
code,
not
so
much
in
the
ui
code.
B
B
We
we
suspect
that
we
have
that.
That's
a
big
part
of
our
argument
for
the
cje
certification
that
a
lot
of
those
are
people
who
are
on
the
job
market
one
way
or
another.
Oh.