Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 29 Jan 2020

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GSoC Office Hours for January 29th, 2020

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Hello, everybody and welcome to the google Summer of Code for the Jenkins project office hours. The date is January 29th 2020, my name is Marquis. Jackson I will be the host today and.

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We will go ahead and get started, I mean I share. My screen.

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Should CD I posted the link to the zoom, as well as the document indicator channel and we're gonna go ahead and start with the agenda before we get started? I think it's just so far to storag admins. So if you have any questions, feel free.

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Okay, somebody is watching yeah. We have google Summer of Code. If there's people up and asking questions, there's something like 15 minutes. We closed the meeting. So even if the meeting is scaled to 45 minutes, please do not expect us to stay online till the very end. If there is no.

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Okay, we'll go ahead and get into the agenda. First item on the agenda is list of experts in Jenkins. What to do and road ahead for student queries so yeah there have been a lot of student queries. One of the things that I've noticed is a lot of students are pinging directly and I'm trying for the ones that ping me directly. ah If it's the first time, they've done it I will answer their question.

A

But at the end of my answer, I'll also say- and please ask this in the getter channel for google Summer of Code. That way, if somebody else has that question, they have the opportunity to see what that answer may be for students that are doing it multiple times. I won't answer like one one more time, I'll answer their question and then end it the same way, but in three and four times I'm letting students know hey I need to ask this question in the general channel.

C

So most of the questions it is advisable that students ask in the g'tok channel that is correct, so.

B

What is our recommendation gtalk channel of organizational mitosis for getting started? If you have whatever deep questions which you really require? Subject matter experts you have common channels like junkies developer, you should go down, there is no particular need possibly becoming inky, and the direct messages are not emotion. So, for me, I would prefer to avoid publishing a list of subject matter. Experts anywhere because default encourages people to gain director.

C

Okay, okay, make sense I'm going on mute because I'm traveling, okay.

B

Yeah just to explain, for example, I receive a private message about Google Summer cook. Every day to my inbox. Sometimes Peter I have a canned response, but yeah marki is doing good good job answering the questions in first time. In my case, if the question is not trigger reasonable to be any private.

B

Channels almost immediately people don't show up.

A

So how do we want to add? How do we want to handle for students that are asking questions indicator channel I? Think the questions fall along the lines of two to varying degrees? One is general questions and I think for that I'm catching them pretty quickly. I have sort of a canned response for general questions, but for more pointed questions that such as more deeper technical questions. If it's on a various project or proposal, how do we want to handle that yeah.

B

So, first of all, the most poverty is reference specific channels. So, for example, we'll get a lot of questions about Windows service router. But if you go to a Windows service repair project ID, you may discover that they need bathroom, sick, Channel and if people go, follow the recommendations and ask available you'll have four more experts answering their questions.

B

Some channels also have project specific channels, for example, Mark Waid created in deep plug in the channel, also forgive project IDs, and this is the channels we should use as a first entrant.

A

I would like to where the students are better I, think we do have some students on the calls, as well some mentors for the students we have not assigned students to projects yet so it's okay to definitely look at a project and even start lightly, generally understanding the technical aspects of the project, but students have not been assigned right.

B

I'm just clarifying it, we will be assigning students only during the project selection of things which you do enter like late April. So it's almost three months from now.

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Okay, does anybody have any questions regarding student enquiries.

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Okay, I will go ahead and move on. If you do have any questions, please do ask him to get her Channel.

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Moving on to the next open action item, org admin, application review- oh.

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Like I'm gonna turn that one over to you that I don't think we've actually set a time to go over that I know. Some of the drafts have been moved yeah, so I can set up a time so.

B

We have an application to run on every gift. It means that this is a hard.

B

Application and we need to submit a final version by then whatever changes after this data, they basically take no protector or current application, and the it's one week left also in a separate email to OJ, so chameleon business a but due to unexpected the business trip. I will basically disappear on February 3rd.

B

So if somebody expects me to in the final version, then Italy, where the heart stop, on the other hand or Martine and Marquis, can also update application. We got all the technicians.

D

Hello, like can you hear me yes sure, but is like last thing we have? Is there any I came just now? Is any continuous discussion going on? Yes,.

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We're in the middle of the meeting, okay.

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Or like in terms of the application deadline for the project, I will start going over that today. I have a presentation that I'm doing later today, so it'll be this evening that I'll start going over that and then I'll ping you with questions to make sure that I'm on top of that and then I could sync with Martin and then we can go from there, but we can take care of that yep.

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It's perfectly fine with me, usually how I approach it. If there are two requests coming from others, then I integrate the changes will be implications and measure pull requests after that. Just ensure that it's all consistent because there is no automation or whatever you have to move Lee thinks manually.

B

And yeah I'll link the page from the website, but again it's not how application it's a draft. So whatever you change your day, you may need to make sure that it's dropping it to the jae-seok website.

B

Okay, so the application is already submitted. So even if we do not do anything, the current application will be submitted. All right, I want that yeah, it's 100% complete. It was accepted in previous years. We updated some things, but if were you want to make changes? For example, marker was concerned about lack of machine learning cables couple of weeks ago. So it's probably time to propose these suggestions. Okay,.

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I will go through that and then I'll synch, I'll synch with you and Martine offline.

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Any any have any questions regards to the application for the project.

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Awesome, if you do please just drop a note in the getter channel, Oh Marquis.

C

Application dozen you're talking about the G, so the application for junctions. That is correct, not the project applications no I went through it, I mean I.

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Don't have any questions.

C

From myself, okay.

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Thank you moving on moving to the blogpost copy-editing, that is you Oleg yeah,.

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Still a work in progress, so yeah I wanted to get it over the line today. But, as I said before, the call I had my laptop, applying a beat so I'm still in the middle of magic. My jobs and you know, isn't them the new branch, a after this Porsche mush but yeah hope we come and get it over the line. Today. Okay,.

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Any questions about the blog post for copy editing.

B

Things chicken the moment it is.

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Okay, I'll move on to the movie project ideas to accept its state, I'm back hello, Martin, hello. We have one of the things I'm, not sure. If you for oven check is the application for the org is due February 5th the application has been submitted, but if we want to make any changes to that I know, I have a change in flight that needs to be done prior to February 5th. Yes,.

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All of that, okay, awesome and we are- we went and talked about the blog post copy, editing and that is still work in progress with Oleg. There is the move project, ideas into accepted state I know the machine learning has moved into accepted state.

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The get fraud draft has moved into accepted state. Are there any others.

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Yeah I moved you my project ideas, but not all of them and basically all other potential mentors didn't act so far. Example: Christian she's on that call automatic specific specification generated for STP I other things.

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I need to make a poor class forum. I guess like to actually submit the one product idea that we've been kicking around in in a Google, Doc and draft over for the yeah. So I just need to I. Guess just make the pull request for that, and then we can move it over to yeah.

B

So what we commonly hidden in these stages reinforced format with newbie friendly issues and QuickStart guide. So what's one of its respective feedback I want to care for these sections in all the project. Ideas and plus the daily mission can some another thing which makes sense to double check when you move the project, ideas to just ensure that all text is actual because some issues have been fixed. Some wishes may be added to the scope and maybe also the use of new bit of time finishes. But if everything done, it's quite easy to imitate.

A

Awesome now I guess now we can. Does anybody have any questions in regards to moving applications into your accepted state.

B

One kind so 9:30 is about applications, miss TBD, because we have two projects. We should report my championed by margin. This journalist, plug-in and jank is the rest for him, so Mia. What we discussed last week would be interested to move for them out of the activist, maybe to the bottom somehow so that they receive last project.

A

But these are in accepted, correct.

B

Yeah they ain't dropped but, for example, at the participates again is one first in the drought and my gut feeling that we still receive a lot more queries about it in hitter than about the ideas below.

E

Yeah, so we the only way to hide it, is to simply remove the file. Isn't it is there another way to move it down or well.

B

I could commit right now is just.

E

Do we want to do something sophisticated.

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Because it means you're gonna have to change a handle file.

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About to change a file anyway, because I see that need to have links to the Medicus, so just ideas and the discussion which are not published the CMOS.

B

We have really good proposals, but they haven't been submitted yet so maybe a to the same section, just IDs, which might happen, but we didn't with from anybody- and you have indeed some form of Olivia.

A

Okay, I've made a note that that's your dog, that's on you all like yeah, it's on me, so it's.

B

Relatively minor thing, so my our our main goal is to move ideas which are ready to be published and which we can iterate on to the accepted state. This is the top priority, but if we can also take the rest of the backlog, we'll be fine, okay, but anyway, it's only.

A

Okay, any questions about the current projects.

B

Okay, not question update. There is still no information from the gingka six side, so the topic we're discussing before a meeting this cover the drinking sex folks at Fordham and yep. If there is no information after that, if there is no project is immediately, nobody moving junk assets from our announcement. Okay,.

B

But with something for your information with regards to application, because if I do not have information, we will send Interpol request, you move Jenkins, ex-employer.

A

Okay, anybody have any questions in regards to that.

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Hi, yes, I'm having a question, can you hear me? Yes, we can't we'll be like I'm going. I was going to order I, step you're blogging, but.

D

Anymore and so I guess the project is not going to continue. I guess right as.

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It stands right now that is my understanding.

D

As you have sent me, the link of another project automation, one.

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E

We can hear you.

D

Specification generator for Jenkins REST, API right yeah.

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Automatic specs generator for Jenkins REST API.

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Yeah bleaching, the documentation is a part of immigration from the drop state to the final state, because.

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It looks like it's actively being written right here, but I think what they're referring to is the links so in this law, the swagger portion here.

D

Even the big bucket product is also good. Even that is like that. I stayed from big Berkut rstp right in Jenkins mm-hmm. Even the project was also good. So if one of these two.

A

Even you're saying you want to try one of these two ayah.

D

Surah surah how much interesting REST API one, but as it is not so I will go through.

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E

Just a second I want to clarify what those two links are. Those two links, the first one, is a link to the actual bitbucket rest api documentation, which is an example of what documentation of REST API looks like, and the second one is the same kind of link to artifactory rest api. These are not links to the other two projects, the other two Jenkins projects, their links to bitbucket, documentation and artifactory documentation.

A

Does that clear up your question.

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Oh, like you, had your hand raised, did you have a.

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Just wanted to identify.

B

We have ideas if you have financial.

B

Economist can help to find them to find potential members or just no guarantee, but in order to there is interest in these projects. There is perspective for students apply, so we we see, for example, that your limit you are interested in this project. We could do best effort to find mentors I guess after the application phase. So if you get accepted, we could do what you can do for somebody to be named deceased.

B

These projects IDs.

A

Thank You Oleg.

A

Is there any other questions from anybody online Melissa.

G

Can I get it yes, so we continue to work on. These are typically raised to PR any REST API project.

G

I'm. Sorry, can you repeat the question: should we continue to work on these resti pet projects? Well,.

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So that's a two-part question. The first part is working on the projects. Again, these have not been assigned to any students. This economies, I, was working.

G

On please so strike underneath.

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Or not this as it stands right now, this particular drought. It does not look like it's going to continue that may change, but at this point it is not correct me if I'm wrong, elect yeah, it's.

B

Right, but if you already have a proposal draft or whatever you can actually try it from your example, you can bring it up from the junkies developer, mailing list or another channel a new web. You could find somebody as a mentor yeah, that's how it works. If we don't have Mentors, we need to complete this activity.

B

Orchid means can help, but we only after we know that Jane Francis I started to google Summer of Code as a project, because if we start thinking my mentors right now, we cannot be that basically, the project happens at all in principle, but it doesn't block you. For example, if you have any kind of draft submitted, try to raise visibility because we may find a mentor. So this way.

G

You know and said project document. There is one more main termination. So is there any issue with that Mandir.

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You repeat the question, sir: in the document there is more mental mission, so it's a issue with that. Minda know what.

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Well, okay, so maybe there needs to be some clarification with this particular project. It's a draft, so that means somebody proposed it. The the person that proposed it cannot maintain the project, so they cannot be a mentor, so this particular project may not continue. What Oleg is saying with the option available to you is, is to solicit a possible mentor via the dev mailing list.

B

Yep this other question was a big different about. Another project is a mentor instead right.

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G

A

So no that's, oh okay, yeah I! Think it's the same question oh, like.

B

Yeah, because I've to factory project has no mentor.

B

You ask about another example good, but keep plugging for so one potential mentor listed. So we.

G

Are in the last page.

A

So there is no mentor for this. So same thing. You have the option to try to solicit somebody to mentor this.

B

Martin may be a would it make sense, we could just a kill this with the data, because the peak of this mutilating, the juice oxide I, mean potential members and one section up above because we can just limit it to torch confusion.

B

E

Whole section here.

B

Doesn't make much sense because we we used to be section in the previous year just.

C

B

We seem it a bit is.

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On the website.

E

Okay, so I'll delete a potential mentor sections.

B

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Of project metadata.

B

E

Make sense less maintenance, okay,.

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A

Is there any many other questions.

B

To follow up on this question well in a forum as I misunderstood it. So if you see any project idea what it's accepted or not all mentors potential.

B

Commitment from anybody in this field of project selection, one mentors do you submitted project ideas when mentors review submitted students and only after that explicit commitment happens. So at the moment there is no guarantee that so we will have four more mentors in the least, especially if you get accepted, but at the moment none of them interests is 100% confirmed. If you wonder about what and its how so capris.

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Is there any questions regards to that.

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B

In but yeah that's how you soca face.

E

Kristen I have a question for you since you're on the call the automatic spec generator for Jenkins. There's been many comments, so should we be resolving some of them? Oh Legos also commented actually so should.

F

We be resolving.

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F

People, it is still an active project or something that people can work on. Yes,.

B

Yeah I would be interested to mentor this project this year because we have a lot of activities around, but the UI yes and I cordially believe that having good recipes are just a big journey direction.

A

Okay, any other questions.

A

Okay, there's no other questions. You can start to wrap up all.

A

Righty uh-oh, like I, will be taking the February 5th meeting.

B

Thank you because that one I will miss for sure, because.

A

B

Was quite lucky to get hidden came okay.

A

But nobody has any questions you can. Definitely. You should have questions later on you're, more than welcome to ask in the the gator google Summer of Code god Channel, and if again, there's nothing else. We will see you on February thick.

E

Okay, thank you. Thank.

A

You everybody have a good day evening night.