Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 20 Mar 2019

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Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H0gJt1zdr37YDpuSLXSeFqYco_a_CIrAuZ1f0Oyl4XE/edit#heading=h.8xarldn5w1so

A

Give your life everyone today is so much drunkest. We have a vertical letter, G, so special interest group meeting. So the purpose of this meeting is to firstly, sync up on the G sub project, including complications, action icons on the mental side and also have discussions with students right now, from what I see we have all the participants, students, so I think we will just start from Connie session, and if you get a moment of straight, we will just proceed with hormone status: okay, I'll, just scream Shane green. This my screen.

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A

Yes, oh, let's take a look. What we have in ji, Seok penguin, actually applications to G so open soon. So you may see that much then fees, it's less than one week. They will it's official period when used and can start submitting your applications. But we keep in mind that it's just a short time. You can do that, but we really suggest to start interacting the applications as soon as possible, so that you have more time to discuss this with your mentors and Tobit and your patients revealed.

A

We have a little bit received around ten adults from students and wait anymore, so yeah, if you can just please, do it as soon as possible. I do that's the main deadline. What else do we have from the schedule? So Apple Alliance, it's given nine weeks so revision three weeks, so it will be deadline for applications, so everybody should submit the application by this time. If you don't submit, there is no way apply to the program later. So this is a hard line.

A

If you miss of it yeah, you missed application, and this is another reason why you should stop submitting something. Earlier so that you have more time to discuss and polish your proposal, but if anything goes wrong, you don't miss the application, usually around, not sure what was statistics from the place here, but many patients are being submitted over the last couple of hours and the recommendation is red because g-shock side is just said, so it may be easily over folded and yeah. What you do it area so yeah.

A

This is the main two incoming deeds and.

A

If you're interested, you can find all the further thing is here, so you can see that all almost all project IDs are in the published state will happen the one on our first day in the Java state. But, as we discussed today in either chat, we will be also able to publish, because all comments addressed and you can apply to any project ID and if you're interested, you can also think your own project ideas so yeah. This is summary of the current application status, so BM. We must have work to students, as we discussed before.

A

We have to regular officer our thoughts. One way is on Tuesday, it's 8:00 a.m. UTC and other ones to be at 4 p.m. et she's, also in two hours. But since we don't have for many mentors on this call, you can just pass it as Connie.

A

Okay, so we've had a plan to have a discussion about the remoting projects. Maybe we could Park it a bit and start from other questions either Enya.

D

Yeah I have a question so I found I saw one of the projects on that website. You had showed and I then later saw that I should send like an email to like the Google group, saying like I'm interested in it, which I haven't done yet, but I saw that there were like some potential mentors, but there wasn't anyone listed officially. So is that something like those don't get listed until your application gets accepted? Or is it just like kind of like.

A

A

But I'm thirsty why? Because it really depends on other plication. It depends on the mentor funds and you may see here that there is between application deadlines and with application announcements, so the project announcements. So using this timeframe we will be accepting mentor teams for each project. If we need Momentis, we will do and for them. So please expect that in every project we will have at least two mentors, and here we just have the National mentor, says contacts.

A

So it's me, but Keith probably cannot join today but feel free to reach to this out to these potential mentors there is a gator chart that there is a million trees, so you can use these contacts in order to reach out. You can send a direct email tremendous, but we highly recommend you to these channels because you can get movies ability of your application. Almost the colors and problem Momentis at some point. Okay,.

D

Thank you and then another question that I had is so I noticed that the potential mentors were located in Europe and I'm located in the Americas heavy in, like times past, have you found that is that a problem like with students being able to get like the help that they need with the time difference or is that something that is totally fine, I just wasn't sure if I should take that into consideration when trying to pick my project so.

A

The most of open-source projects a distributed, and you have to be really to different time zones regarding this particular mentors I. Believe it's fine. But when you apply it's nice, some discussions discussion this matter so that a you make sure that everything is fine again. The recommendation is to just ask about it in the discussion and if mentors are fine, they just proceed.

A

Yes, some mentors make up for difficulties so yeah you won't be able to take effect, run the project. If we have a student, for example, in Asia one mentor in Europe one mentor in America, so then it might be a problem, but it's our objective as an organization to find mentors. We who will be at least exists, who have some overlap in new time zone, because we need to schedule regular meetings. We need to schedule some helps and select a objective, a little bit to find time zone under twelve.

A

So in your case, it's not a program for sure. Okay,.

D

Thank you. Okay,.

A

Any other questions.

E

Yes, like I, have two questions were like I was thinking that I.

E

Formatting, so that you know I.

F

Can ask you a proposal concern.

E

Yeah so like I, am just waiting for him to connect like whenever he joins. I will just start microwave okay,.

A

It's so maybe you could.

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D

Have one more question so I saw that there's um I guess I yeah a couple different means of communication, so there's like get er, you have this google group email and then also like IRC. So I was just kind of wondering like when each of those is used or if there's like some community norms about when to use one versus the other or yeah I. Don't know if you have any like feedback on that. Yeah.

A

We do have, but this projects we target meter so I, believe that is no projects using courtesy right now or see still used as official Jenkins communication channel, for example, for governance meetings and for others in talks, but yeah mainly in special special groups, sub-projects Rach you need to get on. You may see that a even hearing it is not on the top, but yep most probably is a part of you JSOC project.

A

You will not need ever seen, but if you want, you are welcome to speak in these channels and you're speaking of projects English project. We have some.

E

A

For the resume you have some intuition channels listed here. So, for example, here is freestyle to joke pipeline job printers. You may see that the channels actually linked to Python, auto and special interest group I've already two channels, one is men, increased one is Peter. What would normally choose? It really depends on your preferences, so we recommend took up along with discussions in Megan peas and the runtime excursions in either.

A

So if you need to sync up museum mentors- and you know that everybody is online because of the time zone is basically you seen it if you want to ask for feedback and if you want to have a longer discussion, for example, about technical design, about some decision-making and then means better to use, may be increased, but generally in depends on your choice. What we recommend is to use public channels as much as possible.

A

There are some edge cases where you may need to use a private channel, for example, where to discuss your ability of his members. If you have a whatever emergency and if you want to notify them or if you want to escalate issues tour. That means, then we use private channels, but for the most of the communications, including proposal reviews, we recommend using public channels. So please use one of these channels, but each channel to take it really depends on your preference.

D

Okay, thank you. Okay,.

B

Yeah, okay I want to ask this question so actually I feel that I mean this year. We are moving to a small, G tote and building list because I finished something sometimes quite if you go too deep check everything on jitter. Can we direct you them to do I mean for our project, discussing everything I feel that if we use very dismissed it will be I mean.

D

B

And easier to keep checker have any opinion.

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B

A

Fair point: you will have experience, h-e-b do experience high traffic in the stage, a subsection or, if you participate here, you see that there is a lot of messages and it's hard work of the discussions. Unfortunately, it's not slog, so there is no threads or whatever I mean here. I would say it makes sense.

A

For other channels, well, as you wish, so even there is an all high traffic may be needed, is a key but commonly communities recommend using magnet lists any issues. So if you expect communication to proceed for several days like do you design, discussion, meaning list is highly commended, but if you just want to pick somebody for poor request, review or something like that, then get. It is fine.

B

Yeah so I think we should narrate. The student interviews may be nice all day, I mean for the next phase of project proposal and kind of things, because I feel the norm. Now is people just go to G to address I'm, not sure I have actually I, don't see much discussion in the memory from what I did instead.

A

We look at some when discussions in the main increase, but yeah I mean we had multiple male increase now so yeah I think it's a fair point. So probably we need to determine to make it explicit or maybe everyone you could propose a pull request. You know guidelines Oh,.

B

Okay, okay, I just put a knot in so I knew and you submit my profession.

A

And I thanks get shot yeah thanks a lot.

A

If anybody else sees any issues in our student guidelines or if you want to propose changes, for example, a reference additional way, information feel free to propose pool requests, so the entire jinkins website is managed by configuration s code and you can just submit a pull request to go to our page maura, where there is in from this page button. So if you just want to fix a typo or write small text, you can just use to this button, so it just opens in it heart. You can edit something and then proposal all requests.

A

Are there any other questions.

E

Yeah, like now, can I ask migration triggering British product.

F

Okey so like I'd like to share my screen, why should I give the borders.

A

But you again, as we discussed before the better, to have discussion with mentors it. So if it's top level thing feel free to ask if it's something about specific details of your project, yeah highly recommend you use another channel for.

F

Bit yes, like I have situations we go into.

E

My opportunit project only so like we can your eldest present regarding the your you know, general questions and after that, if time.

F

Permits I can last quite out. Okay,.

A

I was finished with general questions and yeah.

A

Okay, that's just the whole general questions. First, I have.

D

Another one so so say, like our project proposal, doesn't get accepted to google Summer of Code, but we want to keep working on it so like what would this support? Look like for that? So like we wouldn't have assigned mentors, but people in the community would still be willing to help with or would like.

A

People obviously Jessop mentors will be like busy Jae Seok, but it doesn't mean because we have special team which helps with code reviews, its janky I call the universe. So if you submit a pull request, you can ask based team to help the same for many people who are interested in providing support to newcomer contributors and again even as well, then so yeah. If you interest to contribute to Jenkins without G, so you're more than welcome to do but the particular areas it may be easy and particular areas. It may be difficult.

A

So, for example, if you propose a pull request to an abundant plugin which doesn't end here, it might be difficult to get rebirth and to get you change integrated. If you take a negative component, for example, Jenkins core the most popular plugins, so they're active, then we have a definition define even outside diesel.

A

Moreover, you may have seen that now there are sub projects and also special interest groups. So if you take a project interest of special interest book example, I may need a drop platform group which focuses on packaging, combo code on Java support, etc. If you have a project in this area, you are welcome to regular meetings and you can find all the stakeholders. Then there are other sub projects and special interest group, which you know the same.

A

So if you work on this area, you will be able to have experience with regular stakeholders participating in the discussion, and we are happy to help you but yeah. It really depends on your interest to be. If you can qualify what would be interesting for contribution in cyberspace? Maybe I can provide it, and what do you feel that ways.

D

Ok, thank you. Ok,.

A

So just in case you don't get accepted.

A

Starting point.

A

Okay, other questions, I.

A

See Martin online.

C

High higher, like 30 video, inning, late yeah,.

A

No worries so I think I'll just settle the discussion to the mailing list, because yeah I really want to facilitate something discussions and the adjustment for ji Seok a lot of follow ups, but it's to make sense to outreach to students over a weekend.

A

Ok, so I think we can adjust Pacific Unni just settled check. What is my agenda because ya know it's due to the recent time: don't change in America I mean a bigger mess than usual.

A

Okay, so yeah I have a meeting starting in 5 minutes, but in many marketing or not, you could take over the discussion.

G

I can do that dueling.

C

I'm, sorry, Oleg, can you can you repeat again, it wasn't very clear. I use. Are you talking about the next student student.

C

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C

Yeah yeah sure sure, yes and then oh yeah.

A

30 minutes so probably a little drop off at some point, but.

A

G

Yeah I can do that. Thank.

A

You and for now we can just place it. Whisk Oni.

A

So does anybody have any questions except projects.

A

Okay, hey, since we have demoting people on the call and I want to ask what do we do about the demo team discussion? We want to have it as a part of this session, or do we want to have a separate meeting of it.

B

Here so if the question is shot I think we can discard a disco one and your team need to wait for this unit and.

D

B

A

The Mortons on.

H

So can I discuss about the budget proposal for it mocha ideas, so they have some points here, but most of them are pretty brief and I'm pretty confused about how to integrate remoting. You have a wiki Burnett it more specifically like implement connector logic using credentials from kubernetes. Can you explain in more detail.

H

Implement connector logic using Korean tow from Cuba NetID all right.

A

For managing secrets and what you would be interested in is, if you provision managing things flustered from using kubernetes, for example, we would never old, you should be able to somehow to make financials. One of the ways is to just the past secrets use in between many instances. Another one is 20 good approach, after instance appropriately, so they need it. If you manage this infrastructure from Jenkins, it would be nice if you put financial dimensions as well, so that everything is automated.

H

Okay, thank you. How about automated provisioning of Kafka cluster nothing mean like junking, we start calculus automatically awesome yeah.

A

Right, so how could it be done if you use Fernandez again, provision multiple containers, but which would be interested in town charts or whatever, which would allow provision? Jenkins is kubernetes class that we automatically provision of agents, is a budget Kafka plugin, so just have a way which automatically provisions the entire instance and which would be people out of the books. It's one of the ways to do that. Another way is to be able to provision approach it from Jamie's master.

A

So, for example, you start mastering kubernetes and then you can use keep still or whatever in order to provision. Apache have three instances from the thingy. Both ways could be used to e and it depends on your proposal.

H

Okay, thank you very much for that and the last one is create a reference kubernetes definition and erm trusts for the cough cough system.

H

H

Yeah yeah this this line create create reference to another definition and ham chart.

H

Can you explain this in more detail? Okay,.

H

I'm not sure I. Think ham is like a configuration to start a Cuban netted cluster or something like that. The.

A

Kind of package managers yeah what we could rule that we could create a chart. We define Jenkins with agents with Apache, after so having an option to provision as a system with all the integrated components. I said well yeah. It would require some definition in that he'll. Maybe it will require some more coding in you go via, for example, can contributing of four components like you need to configure Apache table, because somehow you can tinker Jenkins, you configure agent provision and yeah. It can be a part of the project if you're interested, oh I,.

H

See I see yeah. Thank you, I think. That's all my question. I.

B

Think I have a question on the QA this one so is. This is not related to gently mix. Jenkins is a Tory Yemen.

A

So we are talking about Jenkins here, but if you want to propose listening for Jenkins X might be possible, but the M Jenga sex is out of the scope or in my mind, okay. Okay, if students are interested to post a big project ID or any other project, a bewitching sex, specifically, you string the sex flavor you're.

A

More than welcome to do that and you will always have to find mentors from Jenkins X community nan Jiang sexes yeah it's a sub-project in Jenkins, but it's a pretty much is already community right now and if you care about CDF you can we see that these two separate projects from CDF standpoint, but again, if you are interested in about something specific injected sex.

B

And then the development of this phase of promoting after we should develop.

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B

In such a way that is still backward compatible, it means, after we developed a fluid this feature for this film I mean the whole feature will still work there. So from our mistake,.

A

From automotive for Pachuca Funyun, it would be great to begin from divinity was this what we have now well generally, given there is real need to pay compatibility, it's something which can be discussed with commitment hands put on in this case.

A

The retaining that ability is always interesting in terms of changing space system, so we append and do changes by immediate example introducing small extension points. More flexibility. Eight components is something which is recommended.

B

A

So if there is nothing else about this project, I suggest continuing in the chat for it. Specifically so I'll probably mute my itself on the call and we have Martin. You can just continue the discussion and we will make sure to join the next meeting. Okay.

G

Thanks no leg, yeah.

A

Thank you Tom, so I'm still around to keep the recording but yeah almost like a finish and what is being discussed. Okay,.

G

Okay, so are there other questions related to the organization related to process how to join, how to participate, etcetera.

G

Okay, so it sounds like there's no questions related to the process or to participating in Summer of Code. So then I would like to open the floor to questions from students regarding their specific proposals, but for that purpose, I would like to give the opportunity to people who are new, who have our first time joining or second time joining the call to speak. First.

D

I can go, nobody else wants to.

A

D

So the project that I was interested in is the plug-in installation manager, CLI tool, slash library and so I. You know read the docs, oh there's like these different existing implementations and so and then I.

D

Think that I was just a little bit confused about, like kind of so the so. The goal of this is to basically try to have a lot of these plug-in plugins installed before Jenkins even starts is. Is that correct.

G

Let me quickly look at the the project description here.

G

I think I think you're right. That's the general idea is to be able to install plugins from from the command line sort of before. Jenkins goes to production for its users.

D

Okay and then so I okay, so I like installed, Jenkins and then I also saw that there's some kind of new to dr. too. So you can also in like install like this docker image of it, and so I was kind of wondering like what the difference between the two is and like when you would want to use like a this darker image. First is installing it other ways.

G

Okay, so I'm not too sure well.

G

Obviously, there is a difference between Jenkins and a darker image and Jenkins sort of stand alone outside of darker, but the difference. It's not it's, not major. It's more. The way Jenkins is packaged so.

G

Me I'm just going over the you share my screen, I'm, going over the project description here.

G

So there's existing implementations, okay, there's official docker images configuration as code there's also there's also a REST API for installing plugins. Let's see if it is mentioned here.

G

Yes, so there's a REST API for installing plugins, which means plugins, could be sort of written like the list of plugins, could be, could be written as text as text input and then a script could read that list and simply call the REST API on that list. But you know that's fairly simplistic. It's.

G

You cannot say that it's an entire project like that.

G

So, who are the mentors here, batiste and Oleg so have you tried pinging batiste in the in the chat.

D

No, no yeah, I'm still kind of getting into this, so yeah I can do that next, yeah.

G

Absolutely so- and this is valid for all the students- do not hesitate to ping your ping, the mentors that are listed in in the project documents.

J

Yeah they'll have a really good they'll, be able to clarify a lot of what they're asking and maybe help kind of you generate your proposal.

D

Okay, thanks I, so maybe it makes more sense for me to just interact via that channel and I can, you know give like if anyone else has questions they can go ahead.

G

E

Okay, so, like now, can I ask a few questions regarding builders, cutter, martiza.

G

Yes, let's try to keep it to 10 minutes this time and to make sure we we have time for the other students and go ahead.

E

Well, yeah, okay, so, like I would like to share my screen: no go.

G

E

Oh yeah sure like I, have to doubt in my proposal that I I.

E

Hope my screen is visible to one. Yes,.

F

E

So, like, first of all so a negative player that could keep forever the free, which I should be hearing all the code right. So like. Oh, what I am composing. The proposal is yes, it would be available in the plug-in. There's a like that feature would be there in the plug-in and it can be used anywhere where the user wants to use and I have added this compatibility feature in the synopsis part so that you know it could be there. Any part of the proposal I mean yes,.

G

E

You very so like resolve yeah, okay thing, then, okay, yeah, so like there was a doubt that or what do you mean where four parts a therefore action so like what I am doing? Is that this project, this we go? What like I am just dividing this project into the four parts like the first part can be. You know a part of complete filters and the actions and all that job, and you know like all that coding and after that.

E

The second part can be the integration of that all filters and actions with the external workspace manager. Then the third part can be the.

E

Just adding like there's integration of this plugin with the of.

E

Like with the you know, this multi branch pipeline and also adding the feature of build that leads to a shallow like area or you know so like here. There is no or extension all all that, but you know I thought that this can be deforming feature in which I can just divide my projects, role and yes,.

G

I understand I, wanted to clarify and you have clarified it. So that's it. You.

F

Can resolve this.

G

F

G

Comment here, I only have one comment is there's three coding periods and yeah. Now you have divided your proposal or two for sex for parts, so you might.

D

G

Easier to try to divide it in three parts but yeah: okay, it's up to you to to assign the parts to the coding periods. It's up, yeah.

E

Like what I thought that that three coding periods given so I thought that I should divide my timeline accordingly rather than my project parts and that's why I have you know, made timeline according to the coding period given to us that is phase one phase, two and phase three.

G

E

G

Just like everyone's then.

E

I can also change my timeline. It's.

G

Just a comment: I have you might find it easier to organize the projects in three parts because there's three coding periods but all the end.

D

G

The end it's up to you, this is.

E

G

E

G

Don't have to you, don't have to split it in three parts. That's just that's just a suggestion, but it's up Jim. So you can do much more.

E

So, like I'll just merge, this part of you know a feature of that build side, layer to production, I, just F, and this part to the first feature of like you know the main plug-in part so like I'll. Just you know continue that third part they are here only so that it can be. You know, go together and so some to you, yeah, yeah sure I just do that: okay, yeah so like I just ended and okay, so one more push yeah.

E

So here is so like you have given solution that this advanced will discover can be implemented as a base filter class, and we can have many class of different filters and different actions right. Yes,.

G

E

So like what I have done is that I have added both the ideas that different classes can be made of filters and reactions, and also different methods can be made of like both of these, so that we can just decide a concrete way in the community bonding period.

E

You see so like I just resolve. This comment right now, I.

E

Hope it is fine.

G

So so in general, and when you resolve comments, try to try to put the incorporate this discussion in the document itself. So, for example, this one yeah.

E

G

But it's not added where the comment was made, but that's okay. It's there.

E

Like I just want, you know the implementation part to be more clear like, like suppose, if I will, you know just add this sentence after this, then you know there may be conclusion to few other members like what exactly I need to do is not clear. You know much clearer defer to me. So that's why I have written them in in two points. That one way is to make classes and one ways to make methods.

G

Yeah, that's fine! You can resolve it. Yeah yeah.

E

So like yeah, this is also I, think much more clear that actions are not alone in the filters and the filter and the options of filters will be given to the users followed by the option of actions so like yeah. So this is not the final UI. The final UI will be a drop-down menu, but like first of all, like filter, one can be selected like number of bills or number of days and followed by that.

E

The user need to choose one action that you need to discard or not to discard, after that, the users need to configure filters too, and after that you need to configure the action do so that X's are not involved in the filters and both the choices are given to the user so that he can get more flexibility about his chain.

G

Yes, now you can, you can resolve that yeah. Thank you.

E

Okay, yeah so like oh now, I think that's also condition so I can. What one node is that yeah? Also here you just asked that please present the pipeline, the associate XYZ. So do you mean by that should I do some pipeline code? Samples in the proposal or like I am not know much clear by your comment.

G

Yes, if you can provide some pipeline examples of what you think it will look like in the Jenkins pipeline, that's going to that's going to help you a lot with regards to defining what needs what needs to be done.

E

Okay, yeah sure so I just add that and yeah so like now. Here you haven't out that multi or like so yeah. So what actually I understood with my study was that some desserts define multiple hospice energy and gives file, and they use that was. This is federally. So so now barrels are, you know, created in that multiple workspaces. So now, if a user just use a single workspace, then we can.

E

You know this guy that built easily by getting the root directory by only just calling one method, but if there are multiple workspaces defined in the Jenkins while running parallel II for that I have written the implementation that we can use fingerprinting and by that we can get each workspace ID and by using that we can get the path of workspace and the other details through which we can just delete the bills from that workspaces.

G

Well, yes, let me wrote this began yeah.

G

Okay, we're okay, it's an it's. Your comment that I did I replied to where you say: user can define multiple workspaces in jenkins file. That is fine, and then you say so. We need to discard build from all that workspaces.

G

So in Jenkins the build itself is as part of the build history. It's it's also called a run. Yeah become call it a build and it is build objects.

G

After their run, they become, they have a run wrapper and it's the build object that contains the workspaces, whereas your sentence implies the other way around. Your sentence implies that works bases, contain, builds, workspaces, contain build data, but build objects contain workspaces, actually build objects, have a reference to the fingerprint and the fingerprint sorry.

G

The object have a reference to workspaces, but there's also the but fig, but workspaces are registered with fingerprints. So let's say two builds share the same workspace. Then. If you delete the build, you cannot delete the workspace because there's another workspace that refers to that there's. Another bill that refers to that workspace. Does that make sense, yeah.

E

G

I just wanted that to be clear: okay,.

E

So like, can you just pretend that, by where I've written that the workspace includes the build like in the comment or in the proposal I know, written I can't find you.

G

Wrote that in the comment right there on your screen at the top whoops, okay.

E

Yeah, so you like, okay, this card bill, okay, okay, yeah, but.

G

Yeah, when you say need to the start, builds from the workspace. It sounds like. The workspace contains the bill: yeah yeah yeah. That's.

E

G

Me yeah, okay,.

E

Yeah so, like I, just create once more that yeah so like for you for deleting a bill. We need your. We need the data of its root directory right so and for that we need to data of that workspace. So and that's why I include you know and like that's, why I wrote the fingerprinting implementation through which we can get the workspace, ID and all the other details, and by that information we can. You know, just delete the bills so yeah, like I, think by this implementation we can delete the workspace and the bills.

E

To like what I think is, I am not clear, but what I think right now is that we can discard both the workspace and they build both by date, implementation.

G

Okay, so maybe you want to clarify that a little bit clarified it the wording a little bit in this paragraph- maybe era, oh yeah, since yeah, okay, so there's a six minutes left to this specific call. There's a there is another call at 11:00 for four students, so I will remain on that call. But before we end I just want to make sure that everybody has a chance to ask additional questions so missile or if you could, we can take it offline or I, can help you a little bit later.

G

Just want to make sure everybody has time to sure.

F

G

The and if no one speaks then okay, yes, I, don't know, leave ooh or route, one or young-chan of questions or maybe Arnab.

C

Oh nothing from my failed Martin thanks. Okay,.

E

Yeah so like Martin sir, can we just have a you know separate meeting for this discussion before he would like, because you know I am mostly done with my implementation. Pardon only I need to you know just 25 few things to Dementors, which is you telling my proposal so like if four people, and if you know, should.

G

We use can, can we use the next office hours, which starts in a couple of minutes, yeah.

E

G

That work for you, yeah.

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G

So I see that pristiq just joined hello.

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So actually I want you to ask questions regarding to the artifact promotion plug-in. So can I ask this question to you or should I wait for all itself.

G

Okay, so who are the mentors on that one? Just a second, the members.

I

Actually, the mentors are not present right now, so.

G

Okay, have you tried pinging the mentors Klaus Mike long and Oleg affordance? Yes,.

I

I bring this into paying the mic long, sir, so like should I schedule this QA session for the next next session or, like should I, ask right now and.

G

You can ask I'm not sure I put in answer. Oh yeah, okay,.

I

Like egg actually I, just like ask like a small fraction of what you'll be asking in the next session like it is a UI implementation like it also like this project, recites also Heavy D on the UI implementations. So I just wanted to confirm confirm that my project that my UI vision is correct. Just it will just take one or two minutes so can I show that to you.

G

Yes, I, don't know if I can answer properly. Okay,.

I

I just hear my screen: okay, okay, so is it visible?

I

Yeah I can see your screen. Okay, this is the like the home beads of Jenkins right so like, for instance, if I introduce the new like promoted, plug-in that supports both the pipeline and the Freestyle projects then like how, like Alexa, has said that I should be creating a new job for that new job for the promotion itself.

I

So would it look like this like I, just go into the new item section, so is it visible now, I can see your string so I just go into the new item section right.

I

Okay, so like there's an enter, enter an item name right, so if I introduce the new plug-in, would it be the case that they would be like similar to the Freestyle projects? There would be something like like promotion, plugin or like promotion promotion of artifacts like a simple and different kind of job. Like would it be? Would it stay in this section that I wanted to ask like he said that we need to introduce a new job so like new job, that new job? Would it decide in this place like.

G

Okay, just a minute, let me let me look at the proposal itself at the project idea. The proposal says.

I

That, like get rid, get rid of all the building promotion plug-ins and introduced a new standalone, plugin and I discussed this thing further with Alexa, and he said that you need to introduce a new job. An entirely new job and I just wanted to ask that with that new job be residing at this place like I.

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The answer is yes: okay, like, for instance, I just go into the main section: I just build a project: okay, I just create a new item; I I, upload all the necessary codes, and this when the time comes after the bed. If I want to promote things rather than going to the configure section and promote builds, would it be the case that I would go into the job and promote the build or.

G

It sounds like it. Yes, if it's a separate job, then the job has to run to promote the.

I

Likes like this, this is build hash tag, one right, so this is the first build like if I want, if I want to promote this thing, like I, will just go into the ocean status.

I

Promotion status like inside configure.

I

So I go like I go inside the configure section and promote, builds and give all the necessary conditions for upstream or downstream conditions to promote the build right like like this well again, I'm not sure like I, like this promote pills when this section this section would just be shifted to the next job. Is it what it meant by the proposal like this promote, builds when this all section would be migrated to the new job I.

G

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G

You should really be checking with the mentors on this.

I

Last question is: like job literally means the project right new item means the job it will translate to new item, or is it there's something other something like job inside? The coat job literally means like project projects not said.

G

Yes, okay, so in Jenkins, the in terms of terminology, job and project mean the same thing. It is something you can run something you can execute. Okay, then, for to complete the terminology.

G

When people talk about builds and runs, they talk about.

G

They talk about the specific builds of a given project or a given job, so builds create a build history and the jobs are.

G

Definition of a definite generic definition for all the builds it can produce so.

I

It could mean the same thing, create a new job, a new section where the pipeline and the Freestyle projects will be accessed.

G

Yes, I think what you were showing earlier and the new type of job when you click the new item it it would be a new type of job and the type would be promotion. Okay, like from reading like the first 10 lines of the of the project idea: okay,.

I

I just wanted to confirm this thing, because if the UI get screwed up then like the back end won't work. So that's why I just wanted to confirm this. So. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. I'll confirm this in the next session, with Alexa, okay,.

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G

Okay, so I don't know if bowlegs gonna join to end this, this session I think it's I think it's best. If we find a way to end this call and start a new call except I'm, not sure how to start the new call. Yet I have some notes here on how to do that. All.

I

Accessor won't be joining us in the next Q. A second.

G

I

Will he join in the next session or lecture my mentor I'm.

G

Not sure I think he said, he'd be back. Okay,.

I

I will he just said: I will.

G

G

Oleg, do you want me to end this session right now and start the new one I.

E

Think the next great item it after one hour, oh.

G

There's another hour: Oh.

I

P.M. UTC was the exactly oh sorry.

A

G

Changed the daylight time here, so just a minute I can only attend the first 45 minutes of the next session. Then, okay.

A

So, anyway, we'll be able to direct the entire session, and we will be able to discuss the remaining topics today. Okay,.

G

A

A lot to everybody, speaking and yay again easiest made increase and get to ask technical questions. It will be more effective and yeah. Let's say you said this sessions, must've four remaining questions and maybe some projects but justice.

A

Thanks everything of the broadcast thank.

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