Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 5 Mar 2020

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Office hours for the Hardware and Electronic Design Automation project ideas in Jenkins

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We'll be doing a quick recording of the google Summer of Code edie projects discussion. So today we have found only two people on the call me and Chopin who was there a potential student for these projects so yeah and the projects were talking about he's, reading, a plug-in which is a plug-ins for determines design, automation, tools and also the Cavendish adapters. So we have two projects: Japan really interested in both right. Oh.

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Yeah I forgot to share my screen, yeah so ready to answer any questions you have or provide some guidelines.

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We can discuss some questions later. X is fine. Yeah.

A

That's fine, so basically I'm happy to help you with any questions you have about these projects.

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So in this project, actually I was going through some idiot plugging stores, so it up yosi's, then to solve and get care legal, but I was hitting that. What is this asset, as you can appreciate, listen flow means. We want to read a very lock file date.

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Well, it depends on the tool because all these tools allocated in different parts of the DFO, so, for example, OCC is used for synthesis Arachne Pinner for placing Road few, so other framework like maven, which just automates the middle then invokes other tools, so the use keys would be really dependent on the tool you choose.

B

Girl, Chile I didn't get that what kind of operations we want to do on that?

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Yes, you are to launch in public since tears, so.

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Basically, the approach was quite opposite because we expect students to come up with proposals so yeah. There is a list of tools and this list is not complete. There are many other tools out on the market, so interest here is to have students exploring tools choosing once they interested in and proposing their own automation use cases so yeah there is a quick start, but if I need to basically expect you to try it out to see what exactly could be automated there and start from there.

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So if you expect the opposite way that we make proposals which tool to automate I can provide some examples, but the approach to this project idea was different. Okay,.

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Basically, I was going through some tools, but I wasn't getting that which school I was good. I got confused, actually mm-hmm.

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So I familiar fuse electronic design, automation. Sorry FME, that with electronic design, automation, so did you studied I have a which tools? Do you use only up yone or did you use I.

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Didn't do any project actually I just did some some short demos.

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With speech tools.

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When is your C's, then, when is kicad, liver, PCP,.

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Mm-Hmm, so it could be one of the starting points because taken to wish your experienced at least somewhat experienced is a good starting point. So here it's just a limited list, but for example, if you want to focus on key card, it's totally possible and I believe if we enter ticket Jenkins will find a number of use cases.

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Yeah so I'm just opening so key cut, uses Jenkins itself.

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Yeah so, for example, if you consider using a keycard, one of the ways would be to just think community and ask what would you like to have automate it in Jenkins? But here you can just start exploring features, because kickert also has CLI, which does some synthesis analysis higher. So maybe just I created a plug-in, for that would be good step, and then you can just explore what key card community would like to see there I'm gonna show what they kick at the participates in this joke. By the way, maybe they.

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Don't but anyway, got coming in is pretty active, so, for example, if you want to use this project, it could be a good option because it's so widely used. It has community. So you could just ask there or try it out, but a key cut is for PCB design and so for me, I, don't really use key cut, but yeah I like how he cut community evolves.

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Might be one option right.

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Yeah I'm just trying to Google whether there would be any specific results but yeah. So what you could do, for example, you can take a look at kicad CLI.

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Actually, you can, as a path appears.

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So I think we could use it.

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Yeah you could so again, I, don't use collectively. So for me it but yeah as long as it has CLI, you can decorate it with Jenkins. You just need to find cases but, for example, common use cases like univocal the tool it produces. Some reports like synthesis reports or whatever you can publish this reports. It could be a good step.

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Yes, so some tasks might be like synthesis or then optimization are like this right. Yeah.

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It could so it really depends on the tool, because you choose a tool you like or develop, because yeah you can do PCB design, whiskey, cut and other tools. You can do a DF 4 FP jeez, like your sis, feels talking whatever you can do designed for ASIC, which is probably the most hardcore use case for JSOC, but it's still possible. So you just choose to change a particular tool and see what you cannot make babies drinking.

B

So there is one in details, see the first burn the to launch and publishing sits right. So what does this publishing this season?.

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Yeah, publish link is actually publishing co reports so one to get Sigma Q today and it kind of produces some more reports so.

B

I plan, if we use our step step, then that section for mmm weasel out some people say.

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Exactly so, I can show you some examples. For example, last year we had a JSOC project enforcer canoes issue, which is related to liberal course and automation with Jenkins on it, and then we had an illiberal course pipeline library.

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Here, for example, we have a step for your system to so what are this step? Does it actually a processes? The report and publishes it to using, for example, plot plugin for Jenkins, so it takes report, invokes some scripts and gets published. So it's an example of automation. We do visit pipeline library, but if there was a plugin for that, it would be a much more convenient, though mm-hmm yeah in the modern world.

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If you come up with a project proposal beaches that which targets developing a pipeline libraries instead of plugins, it also can do the job.

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So it's just a really simple use: Kies, but yeah. It takes the report, it processes it. So you can see that it takes a lock off for uses. I apply additional script, which extracts statistics and then puts the statistics to CC files and post them use, encouraging yourself opening so just an example.

B

So I can start making proposal on kicad rack means. I was trying to use that tool quite a while this.

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Actually, there is one open source tool as well: liberal PCB, some CLI, which is I.

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Guess a liberal PCB and kick out there more less the same in terms of use key.

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So if you have preference between one of them just take Italy like so.

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Me kick at is a bit more comfortable and comfortable, because I have some key card community and I can. But this Libre PC me a bit. If you could do the same, so you could probably find mentors from these open source projects so that we have someone with expertise with this tool.

B

Could you tell me about this? The libraries you mentioned in that project page.

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Sorry yeah the.

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Language mentioned.

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I'm trying to use these plugins actually but submitted, was popping up and then I wasn't able to use so.

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If you could show your screen, we could just try to analyze forever because yeah they don't have the room right now on my machine, so we can try to debug. It I suspect that that was just initially the environment. Stop because across the verification it hasn't made friends tada. So most probably you just don't have a proper path setup for Jenkins user, but in order to diagnose it, we would need to just see your screen and to debug together. If you are comfortable with it. Let's just do it I.

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Just actually I got to that page. The verification is they have some readers about this plugin I was trying to follow them thoroughly, but I wasn't getting that I was getting that a reduction.

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Without instance, I can't help much because yeah I couldn't go through these guidelines, but yeah I mean if I either get into the same result orbit into the different result depending on the environment. But we really need to turn nación moment.

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So my suggestion that we just take a look at your setup and try to fix it.

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Actually I started quite a lot about it, but I wasn't able to solve that. Yeah.

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So I just propose that you do some screen share for you instance, and you try to fix it together. It may work on me not, but we can try.

B

How do we see the second.

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And so these three videos out there for demo purpose Oh this first editing business lesson and set up, is showing that the procedure following procedure following for installing the the plug-in I wasn't able to install it properly. Exit I, don't know, but it might be Sun properly, but it wasn't getting installed properly.

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Ours, but we could just take look at what you have installed on your machine because yeah there is a video there for wished to this video couple of years ago, but just to take a look. What is happening on your instant, okay, fine, yep.

B

Let me check if I install it correctly.

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I'm installing.

B

Project is actually right now, but the error I just showing that Iran is not available on your machine yeah. So is it supposed to be there? Oh yeah.

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Yeah according to that video, it should be there okay, so my recommendation that you just create a test project which runs on this machine.

A

Okay, so you don't have to setup wish we could give up yeah yeah. The question is: why do we have for this code? Because this would be discussed because yeah I cannot help you without having conveyor Ament, which we need to debug.

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So yeah my theory, that tool is just not in part or that environment wasn't properly set up for the job, but I can't say anything.

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So we tested okay, then here once you have the environment set up, you can just post it in the get er Channel.

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Maybe you could think up next week? Maybe not let's see but can.

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About what the kickstart part from the project page.

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How can I run this demo in Jenkins, which one yeah the third power? It's crap the demos in Jenkins, using this vlog, so.

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Yeah, assuming that the tool is the commanded well, there should be some demos. So, for example, we just take. Let's try to do kick out a no guarantee of the result, but yeah what we did something different.

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Something different: okay: let's take a few sock.

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So yeah, if you soak, has a kind of CLI you can just open it him. So there are some commands which can be involved from.

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Few sock seamoth, you so create et cetera. So this is a these are commands which can execute particular few so corporations so miss Jenkins. You could automate some of them. So, for example, that is a command called scene which basically starts simulation is documented and you could use a crime scene and you can invoke this command. It would produce some big blocks, some reports and then you could use Jenkins in order to process them. So what you could do you could take some few sake: demos.

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There are plenty of them and just execute them these Jenkins, so these commands putting them away in a Jenkins job instead of running them locally and starting from there I'm.

B

Using chicken stock.

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Yeah I would recommend pipeline.

B

And for this this explore wasting to your user experience, so might be some UI connected to attract with for this blogging. Yes,.

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Some you are a 44 tank or for whatever, but he just got more information to join kiss users, the boat. What would good executed, especially when something goes wrong, having some analysis for that will be available.

B

That's it for this.

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Thank you, yeah I, think you too so yeah look at the video published and if you need that, if not I will just keep it, as is because it's next.

B

Yeah, fine I, don't think there is a near to publicist okay.

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Okay, then we'll just keep it users.

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The video even.

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I can find is find it in this video, okay,.

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So then, thank you and if you have any questions just as completed yeah.

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