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From YouTube: Jenkins Governance Meeting, Mar 10, 2021
Description
At this meeting we discussed the 2.277.1 LTS release and the recent news. We also approved listing Jenkins Kubernetes Operator as an official Jenkins sub-project, and approved interim Jenkins Governance Board Member and Event Officer.
Full agenda and meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Nr8QpqYgBiZjORplL_3Zkwys2qK1vEvK-NYyYa4rzg/edit
A
Okay,
now
we
are
live
hello.
Welcome
to
the
junkies
governance
meeting
today
is
march
10th
and
we
will
have
a
few
topics
in
the
agenda,
so
we
will
start
from
recent
news
and
announcements.
Then
we
will
talk
about
aging
experience
reduction
project,
they
discuss
the
upcoming
contributor
summit
and
then
we
will
talk
about
formal
things
like
the
confirming
candidates,
forging
this
governance
board
and
officer
positions
after
mark
jackson
stepped
down.
So
these
are
main
agenda
items
and
hopefully
we
will
finish
in
time.
B
It
is
two
2.277.1
has
released
major
changes,
as
announced
previously
as
planned
for
pull
requests
that
were
more
than
a
year
in
in
in
flight
thanks
very
much
to
so
many
who
contributed
so
much
to
this
release.
We'll
do
a
webinar
next
week
on
it.
We
already
have
230
people
registered
to
attend
the
webinar.
C
B
A
It
works
okay,
so,
okay,
everyone
is
welcome
to
join
this
webinar
and
if
someone
wants
to
present
in
their
demo
features
the
agenda
is
flexible,
so
please
join
and
we
will
be
able
to
talk
about
changes.
Okay.
Another
important
change
is
about
jenkins
trademark,
so
we
are
almost
ready
to
park
this
topic,
so
it's
discussed
at
the
previous
meeting
out
in
march
all
by
left
charities.
A
As
far
as
I
can
tell,
there
is
no
legal
implications
due
to
that
and
yeah
one
of
other
follow-ups
is
that
likely
will
remove
sub-license
agreement
entirely
because
there
is
no
such
entity
for
trademarks.
The
linux
foundation
holds
except
the
linux
trademark
itself,
but
since
you
have
pre-approved
three
marks
markets
patterns,
I
think
that
we
are
totally
fine,
so
I
hope
to
mention
this
request.
A
You
haven't
seen
it
yet
gets
approved,
so
why
it's
in
news?
Because
it
creates
some
change,
it
leads
to
some
changes
for
downstream
users,
students,
vendors,
adopters
and
because
trademark
contribution
also
needs
to
be
eventually
changed.
So
currently
you
have
to
write
that
zinc.
This
is
a
registered
trademark
of
software
in
public
interest.
Now
it
has
to
be
changed
to
lfa.
A
B
Yeah,
so
we
had,
we
had
a
three-day
contributor
summit.
The
three-day
contributor
summit
started
with
an
opening
two-hour
session,
concluded
with
a
two-hour
closing
and
then
had
tracks
in
the
middle
across
a
period
of
about
48
hours.
Initial
opening
session
had
25
attendees
closing
session
had
21
or
22.
B
So
that's
that's.
Okay,
in
the
sense
that
it's
as
good
or
better
than
we
did
in
belgium
a
year
ago
when
we
were
face
to
face,
but
it's
certainly
not
as
good
as
we
could
do
with
an
online
contributor
summit.
We
were
delighted
to
have
people
from
all
over
the
world
participating
in
the
tracks.
We
had
truly
people
from.
Let's
see
africa,
india,
brazil,
the
north
america,
europe
all
involved
in
the
summit,
really
positive
a
number
of
points
of
feedback
that
were
sent
as
an
email
summary
to
the
dev
list.
A
D
B
About
the
next
summit,
now
right
and-
and
there
were
complications
hiding
in
that
right,
because
some
of
our
attendees
could
have
attended
from
india
just
didn't
because
of
the
time
that
we
put
the
starting
the
opening
session
it's
or
our
friends
from
china.
You
know
we
have
lots
of
people
all
over
the
world
who
are
interested
in
these.
A
C
To
stay
so
cdf
we're
running
surveys
throughout
the
community,
so
our
members,
ambassadors
and
contributors
being
being
one
key
body,
so
we're
asking
anyone
who
contributes
to
one
of
our
projects
or
directly
to
our
special
interest
groups,
to
take
this
five
ten
minutes
survey
and
to
give
us
feedback
from
the
perspective
of
your
project
or
your
interest
area
to
know
like
how?
How
are
we
doing
on
communications,
which
services
do
you
use,
and
what
would
you
like
to
see
more
or
less
off
so
yeah?
A
C
B
A
A
A
And
the
proposal
is
to
add
jinx
kubernetes
separators
to
this
list,
and
it
basically
just
that
this
part
of
the
jenkins
project
has
independent
governance,
to
some
extent,
the
independent
roadmap,
and
also
it
allows
basically
promoted
using
various
channels.
For
example,
jenkins
sex
was
a
jinx
sub
project
or
whatever.
C
A
Now
some
projects
are
quite
informal:
they
will
create
before
we
had
a
drink.
This
enhancement
proposal
process.
Okay,
so,
basically,
all
these
items
have
been
created
on
a
more
less
random
basis.
So
when
the
project
leads
you're
interested
in
the
registry,
it
is
a
sub
project.
Yeah,
that's
the
only
criteria
and
formally
approval
from
the
jinx
governance
meeting
is
enough
to
edit
to
the
list.
Okay,.
A
E
We
also
would
like
to
make
this
project
more
open
for
the
wider
community,
especially
we
plan
to
join
our
cd
foundation
as
well,
and
we
would
love
to
make
this
project
also
part
of
our
cd
foundation
project
portfolio,
and
this
is
kind
of
like
a
thing
which
makes
everything
more
easier
and
convenient
for
us
to
make
this
part
of
cd
city
foundation.
Otherwise,
as
alberto
slough,
we
would
have
to
establish
kind
of
separate
unit
involve
legal
department.
E
E
C
D
C
F
F
D
F
E
C
A
C
A
C
A
But
anyway,
it's
not
a
blockage
for
this
particular
project,
of
course,
since
we
have
roadmap
here,
of
course,
putting
coming
in
items
on
the
main
english
roadmap,
as
well
as
promoting
it
through
drinking
social
media
events.
Essentially,
everything
is
totally
valid
and
let's
do
that
so
from
the
side
of
the
governance
board
seeks,
etc.
We
can
support
that
and
provide
some
resources.
A
E
Yeah,
and
in
addition
to
that,
I
think,
there's
also
the
trademark
I
think
needed
to
resolve
because,
as
as
the
project
itself
is
part
of
jkci
organization,
we
have
like
we
made
this
informal
assumption
about
using
jenkins
operator
project
name
right
and,
as
the
the
jenkins
trademark
will
be
transferred
under
linux
foundation.
It
makes
like
it
easier
and
we
can
reuse
the
same
trademark
approach
as
part
of
cdcon
sorry,
cd
foundation,
project
portfolio,
we'll
have
the
same
trademark.
C
And
yeah
just
some
one
thing
to
to
mention
that
similar
to
how
kubernetes
has
set
up
a
compliance
program
to
allow
folks
to
use
like
google
kubernetes
engine
or
produce
a
compliant
one.
If,
if
there's
something
that's
of
interest
to
to
say,
okay
we'd
like
to
have
a
similar
style
compliance
program,
so
people
can,
you
know,
produce
branded
versions
of
whatever
jenkins
or
jenkins
operator.
A
C
I
think
there's
it's
fairly
straightforward
from
our
side.
The
side
that
is
complicated
is
just
agreeing
with
the
community.
What
the
technical
specification
is
to
say
something
is
compliant,
so
we
want
to
be
in
a
position
that
people
trust
the
brand
and
know
that
it
means
something
specific
so
coming
up
with
whatever
tests
or
measures
that
that
that's
kind
of
the
challenging
part
that
I'd
look
to
the
the
board
here
to
to
work
with,
to
help
figure
that
out.
C
A
We
could
do
pretty
much
the
same
for
jenkins
that
needed
because
yeah
they
were
multiple
experiments
and
prototypes,
which
you
will
actually
convert
in
jenkins
to
a
set
of
services,
introducing
features
like
availability
multi-tenancy
while
retaining
rest,
apis
and
other
user
management
inputs.
So
we
can
just
do
something
along
with
lines.
Yeah.
A
Maybe
yeah,
so
the
main
question
is
whether
there
is
a
demand
to
do
that,
because
if
there
is
a
demand
we
can
do
that.
It's
not
probably
it's
too
early,
okay,
but
yeah.
I
think
we
should
formally
vote
because
yeah
no
feedback
is
anyone
against
or
does
anyone
have
any
concerns
about
having
it
as
a
sub
project.
B
A
E
A
A
A
C
A
A
Okay,
then
next
item
probably
quick
one
next
contributor
summit,
so
my
suggestion
is
to
actually
start
planning
one
because
yeah
this
one
was
our
first
experiment
with
remote
contributor
summit.
We
can
learn
a
lot
from
that
and
also
we
still
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
engage
with
the
community
because
we
didn't
cover
all
the
topics.
A
A
C
Yeah,
I
had
a
quick
chat
with
the
list.
Sorry
I
do
have
to
drop
off,
but
just
very
quickly.
I
think
I'd
sent
one
proposal
where,
if
we
had
wanted
to
have
it
in
like
the
cdcon
platform
and
do
it
as
a
full
day,
zero
event,
that's
a
pretty
costly
event,
because
we
do
like
using
hop-in
and
having
like
lf
events.
Team
would
insist
on
kind
of
you
know,
supervising
it
and
we
do
marketing
and
things
like
that.
G
C
There's
a
bit
in
platform
costs
gotta
say
the
the
virtual
event.
Platforms
are
not
cheap,
but
it's
also
like
for
every
room.
We'd
have
it's
we'd
have
a
full
staff
member
plus
someone
on
hand
for
speaker
support
plus
before
before
the
event
kind
of
managing
speakers,
so
it
mostly
does
end
up
being
people
costs,
but
there's
no
like
for
all
the
linux
foundation.
Events.
They
are
fully
moderated.
So
there's
no
option
to
kind
of
delegate
that
to
the
community
as
such,.
C
Or
find
a
sponsor,
this
is
the
other
option,
yeah
or
a
couple
of
sponsors.
We
are
doing
like
before
the
main
city
con
the
day,
zero
event,
which
is
the
tuesday
we.
We
are
now
likely
to
be
doing
a
spinnaker
contributor
days
of
workshops
and
sigs
and
a
get
ups
day
so
probably
on
organizational
effort,
we're
probably
maxed
out
in
terms
of
being
able
to
take
on
another
day,
zero
event.
Just
because
cdf.
D
D
C
A
C
C
G
A
A
A
A
D
D
A
A
That's
right,
okay,
so
let's
go
forward
the
government
boards
and
officers
being
like
marquis
steps
down.
Basically,
it's
effective
starting
from
the
last
week
and
yeah
what
it
means
that
we
have
two
elected
positions
which
are
currently
empty
and
we
have
an
interim
procedure
defined
in
our
governance,
documentation.
A
This
procedure
basically
states
that
the
airport
and
appoint
an
interim
board
member
and
then
approve
it
at
the
regular
governance
meeting.
So
what
the
governance
party
decided
that,
basically,
we
need
a
evelina
to
become
a
board
member.
Why?
Because
evelina
got
the
most
of
the
votes
in
2020
elections,
right
behind
sorry
right
behind
therein
and
so
yeah.
I
think
it
would
be
fair
to
just
respect
these
results
and
hence
the
request
for
confirmation.
A
F
A
Thank
you.
So
I
think
then,
it's
concerned.
One
question
is
what
would
be
the
term,
because
when
we
were
working
the
election
process,
we
actually
didn't
touch
the
interim
process
any
the
state.
The
working
is
exactly
like.
It
was
before
to
fulfill
the
rule
until
they
remain
using
the
remainder
of
the
term.
So,
for
example,
in
the
case
of
current
replacement,
it
would
be
one
year
and
nine
months,
so,
basically,
almost
at
the
full
term.
A
B
G
D
D
D
D
A
B
Yeah
plus
one
for
me,
I
like
that
so
oh
like,
given
that
the
events
officer
is
elected
annually
europe.
Your
vision
is
that
you'll
already
recruit
someone
over
the
next
relatively
few
months
and
begin
having
them
act
as
a
shadow
or
as
preparation
is
that
is
that
right,
yeah,
that's
the
current
plan.
A
Here
so
event
officer
but
yeah,
we
refactored
the
battle
definition
again
before
2011
elections
against
the
point
of
contract
province,
specifically
on
the
trees
that
need
communication,
events,
etc,
yeah
conferences
and
other
things.
But
it's
still
related
to
the
straightforward,
and
since
we
have
advocacy
and
outreach,
I
think
that
we
can
load
balance
it
easily.
A
A
A
And
yeah,
I
guess
that's
it's
about
jenkins
working
officer
updates,
yeah,
my
understanding
that
we
will
also
need
to
work
on
plugin
maintenance,
because
marquee
was
a
maintainer
of
several
important
plugins,
including,
for
example,
parameters,
plugin,
gitlab
plugins,
so,
for
example,
for
gitlab
now
we
have
a
table
studies
regression
and
hopefully
I
will
be
able
to
release
it
today
because
it's
time
to
park
it.
No,
there
is
another
contributor,
focusing
I'm
not
sure.
D
D
A
A
And
yeah
last
topic,
which
we
had
is
about
using
github
jenkins
account.
So
just
click
history
div
there
is
an
individual
user
account
using
github
jenkins.
This
account
is
no
longer
active.
There
was
some
activity
in
the
very
beginning.
Several
years
ago,
I
already
made
an
attempt
to
reach
out
to
the
contributor
using
git
metadata
and
to
ask
about
transferring
account.
I
got
no
response
and
the
why
I'm
bringing
up
this
topic
is
because
yeah
one
of
contributors
created
an
issue
basically
suggesting
to
move
this
account
and
write
the
this
contributor
to
join.
D
A
I'm
not
really
looking
forward
to
the
renaming,
especially
since
the
only
way
to
claim
this
account
is
to
bring
up
a
trademark
infringement
pension
to
github
support,
and
then
it
has
obvious
complications.
Obviously,
jenkins
is
a
common
surname,
for
example,
and
yeah.
Even
if
jenkins
is
the
trademark,
I'm
not
sure
that
we
have
enough
justification
to
go
to
you
and
to
purchase
any
account
which
has
drinkers
there.
D
I
mean
the
account
is
dead.
I
mean
there's
no
activity
for
like
for
four
years.
I
don't
think
there's
any
any
benefit
to
putting
the
effort
in
unless
there's
unless
there's
concerns
about
us
not
enforcing
a
trademark.
I
don't
think
there's
any
point
in
pushing
this.
We
it's
jenkins
ci
is
is
like
documented
everywhere.
Is
the
repo
to
go?
Do.
A
B
I
am
intrigued
by
gavin's
suggestion
of
redirecting
from
jenkins
to
jenkins
ci
that
that
wouldn't
fundamentally
resolve
the
question
from
the
jira
tick
from
the
the
issue,
but
it
does
remove
one
more
point
of
confusion
if
you
go
to,
if
you
were
to
go
to
jenkins.
In
that
case,
you
would
be
directed
to
the
correct
github
org
to.
A
Yeah
well
a
very
delicious
thing
there.
So,
for
example,
if
you
go
to
genki
ci,
you
can
see
that
a
featured
project
doesn't
include
jenkins
at
the
moment,
because
at
some
point
it
was
included.
Then
something
happened.
And
apparently
you
cannot
really
pin
this
repository
anymore
due
to
unknown
reasons.
So
I
submitted
two
tickets
to
support
it
hasn't
handled
yet
so
yeah
no
jenkins
here.
D
Yeah,
I'm
just
thinking
about
even
like
the
rename
renaming
ci
to
jenkins
is
just
like
all
the
infra
infra
pipelines
are
going
to
break.
You
know
probably
most
of
the
tooling.
It's
so,
and
I
don't
think
it's
worth
going
to
the
trademark
dispute
just
to
get
a
redirect
for
something
that
doesn't
affect
anyone
right
now
or
it
doesn't
affect
very
many.
D
Now,
twitter,
on
their
hand,
I
could
see
that
going
fighting
that
one
that
one
would
I
would
be
much
more
like
if
we
wanted
to
try
to
claim
jenkins
by
itself
on
twitter.
I
would
say
that
much
more
worth
our
time,
because
that's
marketing,
that's
you,
know
easier
facing.
I
wouldn't
want
to
fight
this
guy,
for
it
that's
fine,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
that
to
me
has
a
lot
more
use
of
our
time
than
the
github
repo.