Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 25 Mar 2020

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Regular Google Summer of Code office Hours: news, status check, Q&A with students. Meeting notes and full agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H0gJt1zdr37YDpuSLXSeFqYco_a_CIrAuZ1f0Oyl4XE/edit?usp=sharing

A

I'll thanks for joining cars for watching us on youtube. Today we have a regular Chuseok office hours. It's just one week left before the student application deadline. Today we are running a common agenda, so you know, discuss news, open action items and there are any other updates, what's also discussed them, and they believe that to the most of time today will be spent on Kony so that we can answer questions by students.

A

Anything else to discuss today, except what we already have on the list.

A

Okay, so let's press it use news so yeah, they just think I'm, not sure what the students have a little bit identification.

A

There were some changes in JSOC timeline, so basically the slate trace will be expanded same for community bonding and now after the changes coding period, who officially turns on June 1st. So basically it will start two weeks later than it will be before so.

A

These good news, bad news, that application deadline is still much 31st so in one week, so nothing really changes in the current phase and it implies some obstacles. For example, for us, as we discussed on the mailing list, we try to do the most of the reviews, a student application phase so that we can provide feedback. We can get more insights about students and and of course, we still have one week as mentors to do so. So my asked for everyone for mentors for students.

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If you interested please submit your project proposal drafts earlier for Mentors, please dedicate some time to reuse. I know that with all the slowdowns, the situation is not really manageable. Sometimes people don't have time, but all of us do the best effort. So if you have any opportunity to 70 of was earlier to definitely help and yeah after that, specifically for Mentos, we will have three weeks to review the proposals. To be honest, I have no idea what exactly we will be doing because again we review the proposals now, but tell.

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Yep still will have for a bit more time for this phase. So probably you spend more time on project market and, if you like mentors and some projects, we will spend at least three weeks to find to them and I again we received a message from Google that we should ensure that all mental teams are more strong than it used to be before so because of coronavirus potential changes. The recommendation from Google is to go with three mentors, two or three. So this is something we'll be trying to implement for all projects.

A

We accept so I guess this three weeks will be spent well and yeah guess. What is all of this timeline changes? Any comments before we move on.

A

He also wanted to say hi he's busy destroying other stuff in my apartment. Okay,.

A

So the next update we had last week instead of common office hours really actually organized the drink, is online it up in order to summarize the application process and to talk about expectations to go through replication process. So if you just joined you soak and if you want to get more insights, how to start I believe it would be the starting point for you and we were the editor reference to this recording to some of our materials a bit.

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If you go reddit today, a student application guide person, so please use it as additional source of information.

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Okay, any other news, mister, you.

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And yeah update.

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I guess not so business as usual for connection items. We are cleaning Kappa, Akio, so updated automatic specification, generator proposal I've now it's officially in the receptor state tomorrow is interested. There are some quick start guide lines, but basically based murder is what we discussed that the the indicated project meeting.

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Then we had online me talks mark published recording for the previous meeting, which didn't go exactly right because of.

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So what we have left is basically promotion of G. So so again, if anyone is interested to get most students and their proposals, please use social media to promote the projects, because it's the way how we raise visibility of our organization. This year we have around 200 organizations participating. So it's a big number and you should use any opportunity to be more discoverable in speaking of that. Both Jenkins and Jenkins exercise yet publish a blog posts because we deleted need to get attention in 10k, and now it's definitely time to do that.

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But for Jenkins, if you go to Jenkins a your website, it's one of the previous section items. We now have a Jumbotron, so whomever visits the site. They will basically see this page after 5 seconds. So at least something is highlighted.

A

You, okay, you.

A

And I guess: that's it so should be blessed with questions. Or does anyone have additional topics to discuss students, members, anybody.

C

So, oh, like actually from me any any recommendations on ways to encourage further mentors I've one of the get plugin projects has only two mentors. The other one has three potential mentors, but I'm feeling like you're right to may not be enough, and so, if two is not enough, is it just a matter of socializing with folks that suggest, hey come come, join or looking at previous contributors, any other ideas. You know.

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That's a common approach, so you can take. For example, if you create a project based on zero issue or user requests, you can invite these users to be stakeholders or potential mentors in the project. If you know active contributors who might be interested also invite them in to encode and yeah. That's how improve the situation later after the application deadline, we will still have three weeks to mentor teams because we will be requesting project slots after we already have. A draft of things want to help.

A

So at least three weeks will be spent to get proposals, mapped to filter them and also to find mentors, and we give the reason need to have more matters for get plugins I think we will be able to help, but yeah. We do not promise magic there, so we do by step left like everybody else, so it's sometimes it's difficult to find mentors, but forget plugin and confident that we can have some great. Thank you thanks very much.

A

And you have a questions you.

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Okay, if there was no question so, let's approach from a different side, so I believe that everybody on the call submitted their proposal drafts, giving any project where you need feedback as soon as possible or are we more was fine with the feedback? I definitely know that I still also meet details can detailed comments for the project, but yeah.

C

And I still all rishabh comments for his project. He and I have discussed it. We had it in office hours yesterday, but I owe him so still still has to happen.

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D

Looking for me, I'm, not sure I can be the mentor on my project proposal, so I'm wondering if we can invite a another one: mental yeah, rental potential mental in.

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D

Project I am outraged. I can't understand that I read some pencil from the students. Let it last a year, I hope in this year. I can push this proposal better so country and call it for the heart.

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So yeah, regarding that one of approach we had a meeting this Chris Key Bank so might be, inviting him would be a good first step and we got in the rest. I think that we could socialize this proposal, because I believe that it will get a lot of interest. So, for example, we could just sent a message to the developer, Middle East saying that hey this is a story we want to achieve that. We have students applying.

A

We need more mentors who is interested, something like that yeah, because yeah the project will definitely have some interest and, for example, what else you could do there is custom work packaging. So, for example, here we were so many Watchers and just putting a flag there that we want to have basically customer packages, a service or its. It's probably not true put it. Who any principle is what we want to achieve there so just put in reference to this project here, and there could help attract more contributors.

A

Maybe what else you could do so we have this dog is each project, so I think that even in the current state, a it already could be program posted as a blog, especially on the Chinese version of Jing his website, but maybe on Sunday Jenkins I own, and we could also use it for additional promotion of the j-stop project.

A

Anyway, for finding printers, we still have a lot of time, it's better to start earlier, but yeah. Another side of this question is that we have one week left for finding students.

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So not all proposals have active students engaging with potential Mentors and if you are looking for more students, definitely try to spend some time and to socialize your project.

E

Spiritually Muse I guess: I submitted a proposal for the custom services distribution, one so I guess that is spending some reviews because it just hasn't enough news: I'm, not sure whether the user ID quarter enough part yeah. If that could get I think since it isn't available Toby amento this year. Maybe that's the reason for the less number of reviews, but if you could get more reviews on that.

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If you would feel balcony, if you don't get that, don't hesitate to pink, sometimes so, for example, in every few hours. Is that not a good idea but sending a reminder? Let's say once per week or now, maybe once for two days taking the time frame, something reasonable.

E

Okay, also, if I'm happy with the reviews that I have Gordon my proposal, is it a good idea to just hit the submit button as a PDF for sure I still beat over another couple of days because for the Nepali proposal, I guess the review that I got enough. So is it a wise decision to just hit the submit button by that particular proposal or should I stay? Wait for I should review if I ever correctly,.

A

You still connected to your proposal after there is a submit button. I might be wrong, but from what I've heard over past years, submit button just says that your proposal is submitted and will be reviewed draft. If you don't change it to a submitted state, you too want to be accepted, so it won't even reach our mentor in that organization. So I think that after you submit, you still can edit that and yes, if you feel it's really just computers, I mean I.

B

Think you can submit until the deadline over your previous proposal, I've.

E

B

The same as well.

A

So yeah, if you feel the proposal is in good state if you're free to submit.

A

Anything curls.

F

Does the same main WI thing exists for fingerprints too it also as of now Oh could I help somewhere in there mm-hmm.

A

So yeah my way about kingdom storage.

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I will make sure that there gets fixed you'll, incur the project selection phase. So yet you have mobility in the discussions with some core making us about having disclosure, and also we had some answers from two solid banking, very interested, so yeah I'm already working on that.

B

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So, regarding venters, yet The Situation's a bit chaotic nowadays, but we will do our best to get mental teams formed and for some projects, as we discussed, we can potentially have two students working on the project idea areas assume that the projects are aligned between each other. So, for example, this is a kiss for you'd, have checks API, because we have five members here, and so we can potentially scale to two projects. Well, I believe this topic.

A

We will get a lot of potential members that we reach out in the community more because it's important project and assuming that everything is submitted right, we can have two projects, then.

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Anything else for today, any requests to bed rest.

B

Do we have questions from potential students on the call.

E

Since the proposal, submissions will be done in a week and we'll have a month before the selection announced. Is there anything potential students and we could do I mean we contribute to the corresponding projects or maybe will proof of concepts or anything? Would that help all? Would that be in violation of the Google conditions that a project shouldn't be completed before its initiation? So I'm not sure, is that okay.

A

Yeah, let's split it to all parts. What are you allowed to contribute? Yes, you are: are you allowed to anything within the Jenkins any time of the year, regardless of JSOC? We invert any kinds of contributions.

A

If you complete your project during the project selection phase, it's a bit different situation and my advice there would be to focus on the discovery phase on studying, but not on doing the final implementation, because, if you start doing final implementation in the middle of the application phase may cause a lot of complications prototypes yeah sure. But you just keep it in mind.

B

I would like to add something here. The idea of of the Summer of Code program is to work with the developer community with the community of Jenkins. So if you go off and do all the work in isolation, then it's it's not really in the spirit of the program.

B

A

Because somebody can start work and get feedback from making errors, good things integrated, but so yeah. This question this topics, maybe.

A

Jisuk is about community experience and it happens on sama.

B

It's very difficult because nobody wants to say no to someone who's enthusiastic and contributes to the project so yeah, it's difficult for us. Yeah.

E

No I just want to be sure that I mean as long as I can contribute to the organization. That would be more than enough so yeah. It is possibly.

A

B

Could something that's not a part of the Summer of Code program as much as is documentation so work? It's a it's a program about writing code. It's not a program about documenting. So if you have time before you start a project, you could work on the the documentation and explaining how it's going to work and explaining like things from the user perspective like. If you really really want to contribute something, that's not code, you could. You could do that I suppose.

C

No shame contributing documentation and no some shame contributing fixes on the newbie friendly issues right there. Most of the projects have a newbie friendly issue list. It's a great way to contribute, have good discussions.

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So one I think, which should make sense to mention day that we still will be still doing our reputation based on their submitted proposals so yeah. We understand that contributions are done after the submission deadline may cause some bias and we will try to mitigate that, but yeah make sure that you submit everything important in your proposal or respects by the application deadline, because before that you can technically be working on that.

A

But it also goes in a kind of gray area, so we will be able to eat into the proposals submitted jsoc website, the final PDF versions.

D

A

Okay, so if there was nothing else, everybody could get 30 extra minutes to do some reviews of proposals yeah.

A

We could switch to that. So final call for questions there.

B

Is a comment in the chat.

A

The photometric specification generator it's also in my queue, though I thought that I provided the request feedback, if not yeah, we'll double-check.

A

Thank thank you. Yes, sometimes requests going east because everybody of us receives hundreds of notifications from different sources, so we may miss something, and there is no problem if you send a reminder and pink, sometimes a preferably on public channels, but we are trying to catch up with all this reviews. Thank you.

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Now, okay, then thanks everyone, and thanks all for joining this meeting, see you again in one week. Even if we so yeah application deadline is only Tuesday, we will still run regular office hours, but you know for the record. We won't be discussing the application, it is also there and we won't be discussing and disclosing anything in public until their separate projects announced by Google. But if there are questions, for example, technical details of process questions, we can still discuss it during the public meetings.

A

Okay, that's it.