Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 26 May 2021

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Recording of the regular office hours with open Q&A. We discussed updating project pages, submitting patches to jenkins.io, contributing to meeting notes, and plugin development.

Meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H0gJt1zdr37YDpuSLXSeFqYco_a_CIrAuZ1f0Oyl4XE/edit#heading=h.1muehw8ktbv7

A

Hello, welcome to the janky's google summer of code office hours today is may 26th. We don't have any specific topics on the agenda for today. So I suggest we just focus on connie and vincent upon whatever logistics activities and the main main question is: do you have any.

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So here we can just discuss whatever you wonder about the gsoc process, your particular projects etc, and we can answer so. These questions will be on the call.

A

So no questions, um then I have a question to student. um Have you already established regular meetings with your mentors.

B

um Yeah select, we have and um it's we're meeting every week once every week uh and hopefully moving forward. If we need we talked about maybe setting up twice a week.

C

We have also decided to meet once a week, but when our view meeting that's not yet decided, so we are finding a time come.

C

A

Now, project remote monitoring will uh choose to press it with one meet per week, at least for now, but yeah we may adjust but yeah. My recommendation, as we discussed last week, is to focus on uh asynchronous communications when possible and when convenient so don't rely on meetings. As the main synchronization point you have chart and you can drop any questions there at any moment.

A

Yes, okay, so when you're, just quick updates of what happened over the past week, I apologize so that things do not go as quick as I would like. Yeah we had some escalations and more escalations and yeah. So what has changed? Firstly, we started started sending feedback to the rejected students.

A

um I still have a few emails to send but yeah, I hope, to complete this part tonight, so that you get the line. We also updated the gsoc painting page. So if you see my screen, you can see that now we have all jenkins project service here.

A

So yeah and the results sdf so for any student, including actually I will have these pages. And yes, we invite you to actually update these pages, because they've created just basically quick hack and slash based on what we had in the project, ideas and the metadata we had. So this information is fully owned by you as a student and you're welcome to adjust it as much as you want and you're welcome to keep it up to date. So, for example, you have different find the office hours.

A

Please put them here, so that there is some information you have for a meeting notes uh document again, please send a link to that same. If you see any changes in the background and project details and status, you would like to put here or if you would like to put some screenshots video recordings, you can totally do that and if it's needed, it's actually quite easy to do because the even if you don't want to check out the repository etc.

A

You click improve this page and depending on your experience, I am currently in the browser which is not logged into a github. So, let's try again.

A

Okay, so here I should be locked into github and here, for example, if I want to update this page, I can just click improve this page, and here you get uh this page, just the hypereditor. You can see information there with premium. So basically, if you're under the ascii dock, there is some update which would be rendered, but the rest, you can just see the text so, for example, if you want to add a link to office hours, for example,.

A

Every week at let's say on ama.

A

Utc, so it's just an idea, so here, for example, you say here at 1, pm, etc. So this will be rendered and also what we recommend there is google calendar. So if you go to inside your events, you can see that there are meetings listed here.

A

So basically, there are all meetings, including these gsoc office house. So it's called jenkins calendar this drink is calendar, creates just a google calendar. You can ask one of the oracle means, including me to put a link, and then you can just navigate to a particular meeting.

A

For example, he is a meeting okay. I can show you a real example, so we have created the project for a meeting for links, remoting monitoring. So there is a meeting now calendar.

A

I hope yeah okay, so this is the meeting, and here, for example, you can see that you have it announced. We have a link to the zoom chart uh later. It will also have a google doc.

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So this is a meeting and everyone can see that and for example, if you want to share that so, for example, you click publish event link to event and you can put it directly into the browser. So, for example, here you can see.

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Your language link.

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Something like that and, for example, with a you all set the link to meeting rounds.

A

Okay, something like that and then once somebody navigates to your page. Firstly, there is metadata, etc, and here you can see that there is a page here providing a link, so you can click on the calendar as a visitor. You get uh uh yeah, so I might have to cut this moment now. You basically just can add this link to your calendar and you can also add more information and please don't hesitate to edit your pages as much as you want. So these pages is basically a front page for you.

A

So when you will be referencing your project, you just want to make it into the jinx community outside, what's happening the evaluation so yeah, it's your best interest to maintain this page and to improve it regularly, and I highly recommend that you just try it out, because everything is enabled. So you can just submit your pull request.

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A

Nope, okay, so again, this page is owned by you as students, not by mentors and yeah. Basically, it's your responsibility to keep it uh up to date. To some extent, we expected from the students working on the jenkins project. Again it doesn't mean that you have to put daily updates there, but when.

D

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Major milestones, for example, there is a validation where you do a demo or you have released. Your first feature made it available to users. We recommend to update this page gradually so that everyone navigates this page and in google summer. Of course, there is a lot of promotion historically happening, um so just keep the speech up to date and help others to discover that.

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So that's what I wanted to ask- and this is also something you should actually consider doing during the community bonding phase and another thing, as we discussed last week, is working with your mentors to create a coding fund for the first coding phase, so what it means that, uh by one of your coding phrase you expect to be able to actually work on something there might be some flexibility in the plan, etc.

A

But it shouldn't be a situation when the first day of coding starts you open your integrated development environment then see okay, any other repository, and you don't have a repository or I want to do something, I'm not sure what to do so. Your main goal for community bonding have discussions with manchester city is to enable yourself to work during the just connect phase and use it this time wisely, because it's really important to have everything in place.

A

Chris and jeff, would you like to add something.

D

Nothing for me.

E

um Nope, nothing on my side. I do agree with the making sure we have everything in place for the coding period. That really helps make things go smoothly.

A

Yeah and my advice to everyone, of course, to do the first pull request as soon as possible. So, for example, if you create a new plugin, you can start from creating the skeleton. So there is a project called jenkins, plugin archetype, which basically creates a skeleton for you. So a first of all request you could do is just using this plugin to generate a skeleton. Maybe a few hello world actions just to try the development flow in your environment.

A

Maybe it's some read me a link to the project page and then commit that and then you can gradually expand, because when you have skeleton you can deliver the rest of the features in a continuous way, and since we are talking about changes project, we really advise doing so so yeah creating the first initial pull request with initial data and then creating a small full request as possible, so that you greatly and continuously improve your project.

B

um I have a question about, like meetings are absolutely essential, for you know anything, that's related to plug-in development in terms of uh what can be needed out of the project, for example the one. um So we I started working and um we have the regarding meeting set up, but also there are some things about the ui ux side of the plugin and understanding the jelly files. Much better. So some things like that, what meetings would you suggest that we should definitely attend.

A

Yeah, so we can organize knowledge transfers on demand again. uh So for the last time you can take a look at the recordings we already had. um There is a lot of contributor guidelines. um Have you found this information already.

B

Yes, yes, um I found the the developing plugin and a bunch of videos that are on there and also, I think, some blog posts which I haven't read yet. But yes.

A

There are blog posts, like we discussed last time. There is a tutorial on junkie, studio, slash developer, where you can basically go step by step, create your first plugin. uh If you haven't seen that I can share, show it to you.

D

And in terms of learning jelly, what um I I'm not an expert in it, but what little I know, what was helpful for me was finding a a simple plug-in um in in the the jenkins I o repo and just kind of kind of copying it, and it was a little bit of struggle at first until it clicked. But that's that's one one suggestion and um you can reach out to the mentors, via via slack um between meetings. um I I would recommend not not waiting um until the weekly meeting.

D

If you're stuck is is that is that, would that be helpful or.

B

Yeah yeah, definitely I am working on. You know like the jelly files from I think the hello world plug-in and also just understanding. I went to the github plug-in earlier. I was just like trying to understand what is kind of so confusing, um but.

D

Yeah yeah pick a smaller one, because I think the github plugin may have a lot of a lot of ui. If I recall.

B

A

Yeah there are many plugins and yeah. Jelly is a quite complicated framework. Well, actually, it's quite simple, but it's not something you would see every day in the world because jenkins was created 15 years ago. So jelly is, let's see more legacy. You might have seen that many modern plugins actually use javascript, mostly plus um rest apis. So, for example, two years ago when uh schneiderlin was working on code coverage api, he yeah he used some gender code, but the most of the ui complexity actually went to javascript.

A

And if you create against this rich ui, I think it would be the best approach and if you're interested there is user experience special interest group, um which we continuously discussed this ui and also development of ui for jenkins. So you can join it and just go from others. Today.

B

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Yeah, so it's jenkins are your six uh ux um yeah, so they basically I mean it every week or so at the moment and again, if you're interested when they meet on this page, they also have meetings. So just here you can click on meetings on this page and yeah.

A

It redirects you to the google document, apparently in this case, but yeah there is all the schedule below so on every wednesday after two wednesdays four pm utc, uh there is a meeting and if it's today today so right after this meeting, you can join and just ask any questions or see what uh people discuss.

A

I have no idea but uh because I haven't joined the last two meetings or so, but they can go to the agenda here. You can see that here you can see that the agenda, it's uh you know, march 17th, because yeah there was an issue with uh google docs ownership and I believe that the calendar link wasn't updated. So sorry, for example, when things didn't quite work, but in theory, if you go to this page, you should be able to see the recent documents like, for example.

A

Here, if you go here, you open our meetings, notes for json and, as you can see, I also didn't make any notes for today by the way um yeah all our google, docs etc. They should be available for contribution by anyone. So you, when you participate in meetings, etc, you can you're welcome to just suggest changes.

A

So there is. There are a few.

A

Modes going on so something is going on with the google drive because it requested me to reload the page two times already, but here so what I wanted to say that there are multiple modes, editing, suggesting and viewing, and by default we configure documents in a way that anyone on the internet can comment. So what it means that, even if you have no permission to the dog you just open it, I click suggesting and then you're in the suggestion mode. So basically you can say that okay, it was too lazy too busy.

A

He didn't create update, but you can do it on your own. So, for example, you go to a google document here you can say that we had connie and then we discussed, for example, yeah knowledge, transfers.

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Plugin development and if we discuss any links etc again, you can follow that.

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Information and please don't hesitate to contribute because keeping these meetings, notes etc is also a type of contribution, because somebody maybe read this document or we can later use them to improve our documentation, which is not awesome. It takes us, but it will be improved a lot as in pretty much every other open source project and you're welcome to contribute in such way. Just by helping.

A

Okay, so what else we discussed status checkpoint? We also discussed.

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Updating project pages.

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Does it work for you so again any questions, any comments and yeah sorry following the tours but yeah I'm just showing how particular things work in the junkies community and history to us, because we try to improve the way we can.

A

And you know what I said: if you need a specific knowledge transfer session, so this year we didn't play upon any session yet, but we can do it upon request. So if you see a particular area which you want to get more expertise, if you don't see information, if you understand this information, I just raise the question and we'll try to help this.

A

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And basically the same for any page on genghis, I also, for example, if you go to the through the tutorial, uh you go, create a plugin, etc. You see mistake there or you want to extend it a bit. You can always click on the same page, improve this page and edit everything you can check out the site. You can build it locally.

A

If you want, there are contributing guidelines and you will need to do that when you work on the complex updates and, for example, when you work on blog posts, we expect you to write um and yeah. You can find all the information here how to get it running, but if you have a docker, it's actually just a few commands.

A

If you have windows and if you need to get this ecosystem running, you will likely need windows subsystem for linux, because I'll make files are not platform independent and if you need such assistance, please contact me, but we have four common cases.

A

There are just to make commands so you say, make prepare and then make run and you get the website uh development mode running. I'm not sure what it's you know. It's not running for me, but it takes a few minutes to start up because everything is factorized and the relatively slow. But after that you can do life changes and verify your content in the browser.

A

Similarly, to how I do it with github hospital, but you can view a real website there.

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Any patches to the communication, etc would be much appreciated because we as experienced contributors, we have so much sacred knowledge, and sometimes we just don't see obvious gaps in our documentation, especially for newcomers who just started the project, so any feedback about that would be appreciated and even if you do not fix the issue, there is another magic button called report the program.

A

So for example, here so it's again, it's semi-automated, so you report the bug for the user experience page. It automatically puts the links etc. The rest you would need to fill in, but yeah. For example, you can say that there is no log for ufc. You can just say that there is a logo for the ufc. Please update and somebody will eventually triage it and maybe even implement it. So if you see some significant issues, you are not ready to work on. Please submit the tickets on github wishes.

A

If you see something which you can just fix in a minute like a type of fix, then he status, I mean this will request. It takes less than one minute, but it's still a valuable contribution. So just yeah. Just do.

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Any questions comments.

A

I haven't put the recording of the previous meeting here, but yeah, usually what I do. I put the recording links right inside the agenda nodes, so you can always find the recording they will also publish recording of this meeting.

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Anything else for.

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A

Just thanks everyone, so we usually keep these meetings open until uh there are any questions and yeah. If there are no questions left you just close down and if nobody joins the meeting, usually I leave for the meeting and stop it after 10 minutes.

A

So you are always welcome to follow up on the chat if needed and again, please don't keep the meetings. Now we have uh slack uh channel in the cdf workspace. We also have guitar channel. So any of these channels is totally legit and feel free to ask any questions there at any moment when you need assistance and somebody will be around to help because we have something like three or four hundred participants in the guitar channel for gsoc and some of them help and thanks to them.

A

If nothing else, I guess yeah thanks. Everyone thank.

E

Yeah thanks good see you.