Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 25 Apr 2018

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Description

At these office hours we will discuss the next milestones and the plans for the community bonding period: training sessions, etc.

Meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18QKXxYrRm1XPmSHMNqCjIemTcm2hxF4NbZw7-EdcGrc/edit?ts=5ae05139

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Okay and now we are online, so hi everybody. This is the first Jenkins risotto of the south, the main now part of google Summer of Code during the project selection. Please, we had maybe 10 office hours, but now the projects are announced and the project is official. So we report this session and we will shade use our other participants yeah.

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My name is a latina shall find one of their orchid means and we also have several students online. So we have Abhishek farm and share online. So we will have a live discussion of what is going to happen here to the next week and you drink their community bonding, and then we will just you and the colonel state and mega discuss some questions.

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So I have shared my stream. Do you see it.

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So there should be in connect recursion on your screen. Now.

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So, by the way to see everybody online and get welcome to Jenkins J, so I hope it will be a nice experience for you thanks again for all your time during the proposal, preparation and discussions and I think it was helpful experience for everybody so just to go to our G sub page and I have updated it yesterday.

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So now we have all the projects published him and we have four projects whatever ichika plug in then plugins for electronic design, automation, remote in cover message, bus, thank you and simple request job so currently other pages created for each project. So, if you navigate to a project, you may see I needed a student list of current mentor, sandals brief description, the radius also linked to public proposal drafts, which we had discussed in the developer communities. So this is the information which we have now on this pages, but this is.

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This is just the starting formation and we will extend that this page is soon, so we invite students and mentors to just contribute to this documentation and twit more materials and the a in the end. This meeting we will talk how to make changes here.

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So one of the interesting pages for the current stage is information for students, so we spend some time in order to set expectations of what should be done during the phases, and we have also such expectations for community bonding I. Think today, during for the next months, you will be working with mentors and other stakeholders not to establish communications, set up meetings and prepare to the coding phase. So by the end of this community bonding could be expected.

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You will have a kind of mini design for a project, so you will know what your going to do. It will be likely an extension of your project proposals and yeah. We will also have set up regular meetings and all materials like Jenkins on your website. So this is what community bonding about these face is not driven by students and mentors. So we expect you to be proactive to be reaching out to potential stakeholders and we, as orphan means they will be held in queue.

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So if you need any assistance, if you need to create any particular repository so charts in order to have discussions, just let me know- and we will get it configured so- and this is a description of the current phase and I- understand that all students also have four other commitments, including study exams and yeah. Let's make it clear studies the first priority for everybody, so we do not want you to fail any exam or whatever just go right. Good I mean design in this face.

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So please prioritize your work up appropriately and if you have commitments like your mentors now so that you can organize this face so that everything gets delivered without impact on your other activities.

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Any questions so far.

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We tell the communication channel to mentor in the page. You got the project page, you yeah.

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Finally, we expect the communication channels to be openly documented on these pages, so here, for example, if we take code coverage, plug-in I think that at some point we will have a section here which describes what is the communication shot and, for example, what is the schedule for meetings between student and stakeholders?

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So we expect you to work these mentors not to set it up, and actually there are several ways to set up communications, as we previously discussed, analysts receipt channel with engines so I'm using a PC cloud. Client, okay, I dropped my credentials.

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You can find the instruction, and here you may see the tether on multiple channels like Jenkins, Jenkins, community and commuting. So one of the options you have is to just choose Jenkins AC channel as a main communication way, but obviously it has multiple downsize. For example, you would need special tools to retain the history. They do the collisions. These are the charts. So last year the most of projects object out to alternate approaches so, for example, in Jenkins project, we have many charts in my meter.

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Sorry I think I should just do another router.

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Yeah was the configure and credentials on my laptop, so there may be some collisions now, so you may see that there are many chests but yeah. What I was wanted to show you that we have Jenny Keynes and there are several charts in detail. For example, the rest chat folks, don't know workspace manager, which we have created a in 2016 in order to run this project and have communications, and there are other HS for plugins, like jitter plugin. Maybe.

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You turn off your screen, say sorry.

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Turn off Josh Ezrin. You are not having anymore the swing oops when.

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Did you have your.

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Three, yes,.

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Sorry, I'm not sure what was happened.

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Okay, nice. It now.

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Yes, yes, I can see now.

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Yeah, when have I stopped sharing it.

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Okay, now so have you seen another website post I.

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Am just trying to understand when it stopped sharing.

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It's Dutch Oleg yeah.

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You stop sharing when you started, showing the Gator chapter. Okay,.

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Sorry, probably I've clicked something. So, yes, we have a gator and it is not an official way of communications, but you default on many projects in Jenkins use Peter. So, for example, the recent integration is good again, which is kinda active now the results evergreen, which is about Jenkins essentials, also active, and there are other channels. So you can choose git er as a communication way, and it may be pretty useful when you work on a particular project.

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For example, when you create in figuration a sport plug-in or a simple pull request, job or whatever you can create a git er channel for that and then use it is get our channel for communications and obviously you can set up some integrations if you find it useful. So it would be one of the communication ways if you prefer other channels like slow or whatever. It's also possible, but yeah just discuss with your mentor. So what you prefer and agree on a channel you like.

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Does it answer the question.

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To create to create.

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Room a chat room on getter. Is that possible or do we need some admin privileges? The problem.

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In that it changes on almost every month, I mean get developers change permissions. So we had issues to this Libre course recently that some chats are not possible to create but yeah. If you have any difficulties. As author means, we will definitely help and, for example, me or Daniel big have admitted missions and eater. So, but in the worst case you just go to Jenkins design and create an imposter shaped liquid Oh Lincoln's box record is not only for plug in defect sandbox, but also for infrastructure.

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So you can go and create a new ticket infrastructure project and.

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It can play it's on top like that, and then they will process that and create a chat for you.

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Okay- hopefully it's not very little quite in the current state, but just to explain the process when you start working on a plug-in in order to create a deep room, you need.

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Created in Jenkins project, so here's our main gentle share organization, which has something like 2,000 repositories now, and you may see that each plug-in has a its own repository so and before creating a chart. You may need to also create a repository here and so that we do have a placeholder for a project. In order to do that, we have in post-processing.

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Request, mm-hmm and yeah: this guy describes how to request hosting water needs to be done and in your keys, since all JSOC projects are pre-approved in Jenkins community, they think you need to do is to go to gently Sriram and to create another request, type plug-in hosting request, and he is something like host whatever.

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So you just create a title type. Your project.

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Unfortunately, currently supports on the forks, but yeah you can just something like who here and yeah. This would be simple job like me,.

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Or I know yes, so something like that, so you create such requests. He you divide it into the project.

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You can just take a drink from the job google Summer of Code. Let's pick this one, and here you just provide a link, so this information should be enough for us for process the first link request. Then we create a github repository for you and then once you have give up repository, you can also create get a shell, so it will require some initial configuration, but the once it's done.

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You will have everything in place and obviously we will make sure that today, you'll get the definitions you need in order to make commits to this repository.

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Okay, it doesn't make sense to you.

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Sounds good okay,.

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If Colin talk.

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All we can create.

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So my recommendation would be to create communication channel for sure. So you have a discussion with mentors and decide which communication way you prefer and then you can just modify this page.

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You can do that, but my recommendation would be to have this little communication with engine optimization so that we have everything organized so maybe before creating a digital chart, you will need to create a repository for project.

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Can start from this group, but yeah generally advice would be to create a new group project so that you're easily from other discussions, and in order to do that, for example, there is Jing configuration is called a plug-in, but actually it points to the configuration Oscoda plug-in repository in github, and this is the only way to create public channels in my internal. So you may need to have github repository in order to have such conversation channel here.

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Okay, thank you. Okay,.

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So don't worry it actually, it doesn't take much time so once you agree with your mentors on the actually on the repository name, everything can be done in minutes, so I will help you to get it delivered and once you have, this communication channel know might get R or C or whatever you need to update this page.

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This page is actually hosted on Jenkins, I or depository for website. We have a full configurations code and you may see improve this page button here, but actually this button Steven doesn't work because he created a new session in chrome and it has no identification.

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I did hub for me, so yeah click improve this page and I get editing web interface. So here you may see what's inside this page trigger, so it has some description text and also metadata, which is used to retrieve information about the project and all pages have the same structure. So when you create a chart, you may see that it uses ASCII dog format and we can write suntanned. Like my nature.

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Okay, there is a fancy-looking link to get ER. So just a second I'll take something clay.

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Key so it's a link to another project, but you get the idea, so you just take something like red, mini-quiche, adding people page and then you can review the changes.

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Okay, it doesn't work in such way because this is a markdown page and every inserted markdown pitch to the asciidoc, but they even updated, total markdown, syntax, sorry to ask adopt systems, and after that it will work at the end. You just make an update and then you can propose the change so, for example, if he proposed a change from a branch which we can use and just create a pull request, but this is a very simplified flow.

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If you wanted to do more changes, obviously editing from github web UI isn't something comfortable, and instead of that, you can just fork this repository, so you may see that there are 300, Forks or so, and there is a contributing page which describes how to build the site and how to run that.

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So you can use this guide in order to test your changes. Actually, I can just show a sit. It's pretty trivial. So, let's see.

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So I have Jenkins I go to purgatory here, I might be so. Let's open it a.

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Bit it works for me okay, so this is a gene can say your repository. You may see that it has 50 big structure, but what we really need is projects JSOC and 2000 taken. So we have the limbal page here. I mean this is genocide, projects JSOC it's also in ASCII dog, and there are some wages for your projects which we can aid use. So if I want to make any change and I can just modify files here.

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For example, if you use proper editor, you also can preview the changes here, but you may see that it just clear used body. It doesn't give you a metadata or page layout because they thing is just not designed for that and another two or if you changes on Genki say oh, we actually can run our local open. So that is a.

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Way in the repository it uses docker, but there are two main commands. One is make, prepare it prepares your environment. In order to be able to run all the tests, you may see that nothing to do clean, but then I click make run and it's made run a month. I should start the local version of the junkies website. It uses docker. So all the logic is perished, but on the other hand, you need to install docker in order to run it.

A

Okay, well, we were waiting for that. Any questions.

B

No thank you. Okay,.

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Yeah I'm just showing the phone because yeah we expect every student to update the pages and the future. You will be also writing the blog posts. So it's it may be useful to study this fall and to try it yeah. It may take a while to build on your search. Actually, should you take in much less time?

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Well, this is running. No, it's not okay! So now waiting for browsers to connect, I click refresh of the page, oh.

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Sorry I'm showing a browser that leaves Russian localization.

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In English.

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Okay, now everything is running so when it starts up is pretty fast, so you may see you Jenkins website, use old, blog posts, etc is trying it properly. There are some glitches there. For example, there is no status bar whatever reason, but we can just both for for widgets this off.

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And here we may see our project pages so, for example, if I want her to need a very simple request: job TV yeah. Let's go to this page- it's so slow today, so he is our extract. So we can just move here and just for it's on employee below so and then you can just settle, oh this pinch and they should automatically apply it changes, so you can use it in order to debug your changes and to see how they look like in the real way out.

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So if we encourage.

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To try doing some changes and top taking project descriptions, so maybe updating some metadata. You may see that I haven't put all information here, so there are two new pages, so the first thing you could do is to just address this: reducing your projects and actually, even if you select see chart, we still recommend to have IRC account and because I see the main communication channel for Jenkins.

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Okay, so does it work for you.

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Yeah, so just to provide some context about blog posting, so yeah I'm still opening the local site yeah. You may see that we have blog posts here and actually we also have our blog posts about goals on road code. We just need to find out.

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So, okay, so let's take G sock label, it show us all. Google Summer of Code, boss, I, think I wanted to show you that they go some posts by students previously about the project's about the interent. So after community bonding, we encourage students and mentors full rights that blog post enough to kick-start their discussions and to have far more common interaction about your projects. So it's something you can do and when you create a blog post.

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Actually, the flow is similar to what I presented for Jenkins on your pages and actually, if you're, going to contributing page. There is a special section about the agent, a blog post, so it describes what to do, and actually you can just follow this guideline in order to create this blog post just to provide brief cut-offs, there is a blog folder which contains blog posts commands, or you can just click that skiddo page.

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We share documents, your blog post, and in addition to that, you may see that there is auto link and we have a separate track and kapha orders. So, for example, there is a list of previous authors and there is some descriptions like yo like Twitter github things. So it's something you will need to configure when creating your first blog post and actually, if you're interested you can do such Stubbs even now, so that when you create a blog post, you do not spend time on that and.

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Actually, that's it! So once you are ready, you just start creating changes, and you can say your website will get updated regarding your projects. Yes, you create a github repository and start working. I is at stake holders so there so you can do some documentation. Some readme pages even are not, and this one of the objectives to Dino.

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At the last but not least, I wanted to mention is about development mailing list, so we already have some threads about jigsaw started previously.

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So, yes, there are some traits about google, Summer of Code, etc, and once you have initial sync up with your mentors once you set up office house once you start.

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Investigating the project, it may make sense to start a new thread in the development increased so that developers can participate in the discussion and can join your meetings so that you'll get more reach the community and you get a Murphy bed. So this is the third action item for you, maybe not for this week, but for the second week is to start develop at least thread about your project.

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So this is what I wanted to show today, so just provide some different reduction. The government, the logistics side of the project I, want to discuss office house-museum, so do we need them and what information would you need in order to be efficient in your projects? So if you need to get any specific trainings or if you want to get any other guidelines is something we can organize.

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For example, my plan is to have plug-in development training, maybe next week if everybody is available and if you have something like that in your mind, just in people in the Middle East and Oscar ball that so Jenkins edges off old public when increased is a proper.

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Venue for all such discussions, you just go and create any question day. If you want it's perfectly valid and you will try to handle that and obviously we will reconsider times for meetings and schedules according to availability of students and mentors. Now we have less people involved, so we can adjust our schedule according to ohm's.

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So does this sound good to you.

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Yes, yeah everything sounds good and, as I mentioned in the proposal that I will not be available till 5th of me. So will it be okay if I start working from 6th of May.

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It's perfectly fine, so we just need to define what means available or not available, because yeah there will be some email threads, for example, sync ups with mentors and as such discussions, if you have time to handle them in the background, it would be really useful, but regarding all time-consuming things like design, etc.

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We perfectly understand that you have other commitments and there is no requirement to start doing it right now.

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Ok, thank you yeah. So having some discussions is definitely useful. So you think of me as mentors on the chart. You did these things established. It doesn't take much time yeah, it's preferable to do it earlier, but for the rest next week is fine, but two weeks is fine as well. Just make sure you do not postpone it to the very last moment in the community poor things it was community bonding, which is a really important in G. So.

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That's it from me and I hope that all of you have already received welcome messages from your mentors and again, let's consider them as kickstart threads and over the next week. We will be also suggesting stakeholders and other party potential people who may want to continue to projects so for every GPA they will be like the maintainer of plugins related to code coverage. So, for example, a chef has already communication experience service, Jeff Pierce, who maintains uber to the plugin.

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So we will try to get such people involved in their jae-seok discussions as well and same from remoting. We have removed in containers and for a simple request, job project. We will also try to get some people interested in that because configuration is called, is a hot topic and, for example, there is a new blog post. Pendant now, which describes how to describe your jobs is a mode and probably we can get some people there and predict a status flow.

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So there will be lots of discussions and once you are ready to date, and once you have tamed under these discussions, we will work how to start them and to get as much feedback as you need for the designs.

D

A question Oleg sure I missed the first couple of minutes of your presentation today. But did you talk about preparing the design document or planning the work and creating a Google Doc to be shared with between mentors and to dance? Not yet.

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So yeah I mentioned the design dog that we anticipated to be done during the community, bonding, whether it's Google dog or something else, it's up to mentors and student to decide how you prefer to proceed but yeah once the were. Some initial communications will advise to create this dog and probably at one of their next office hours will go through existing designs, just to provide some examples and to discuss how it could be done.

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So I think that designing the project is not a task for the first week of coming to bond for sure but yeah. We will continue discussions about it.

D

Okay, thank you.

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Thank you any other questions.

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And because no so just to provide some update about our plans as or companies, and today we have James governance meeting. Let me share my screen again.

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Do some ice cream.

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Yes, yes, oh Jenny, governance movement. It is a kind of regular event away. We discuss topics around Jenkins core about community activities. Today they will research, governance, meeting.

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They will be JSOC status, update and so, as discussed was marching will be driving did, but a in advance will also create a kind of update thread so that we will announce that there are projects so that they are set it and there will be communication soon, so they will be a link here but yeah.

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Then, if you are available during the governance meeting cancelled and its adverse to be there, so it's not mandatory, but it may be useful for you to be in touch with the project and again this meeting happens energy, so there is no need to participate in handouts. You can just stay in the chat and listen to this chat and it's something useful.

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Of course margin will do some welcome words as well as I will do it in the mailing list. So now we consider any JSOC student as a genius organization, contributor and participant. So you are perfectly eligible to attend these meetings to propose your own topics. If you are interested and yeah it's something we will be.

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Let's just consider, there's a part of coming into bondage as well.

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Okay, I've spawned solution could be on so yes, I do this yeah. All of you have already created some pull requests to github injected repositories and actually I wanted. To briefly check. Is you whether the current experience is fine for you or whether you would like to do some improvements on that I mean that?

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Is it fine to work directly with project manliness or would be war and to have more aliases and helpful from Jessica D means in order to make your changes reviewed.

D

Can you rephrase the you know, leg, okay,.

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Yes, sir, because my question is that regard and github and the contributions there do you need some changes to help or do you need some assistance with your changes.

D

I'm not sure which changes you're talking about yes,.

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Let's, let's take an example: a bishop has a pull request to change this code and it seems to be a bit stuck I guess this is my fault as well right, because yeah I dropped the ball on the reviews, but yet, in order to help to deliver that would some changes and in the process or would you need some help from assess mental centre? Or that means.

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It is this question landed flat, so let's wait till we have github projects established and once we work there, I will be able to set up efficient communication. Folks.

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Me today, I want to ask: can I start after a third of me because I'm having is enough or.

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Yeah because I'm having I know is.

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His paper yeah.

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As I said, study first deliver on your exams. This is a top priority and again, if you have some time to participate in.

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Communications in mammalian crease, for example, in your case I think we will need to discuss how when I do we have meetings starting from way? Third, and how do we establish communication channel? So if you have time for such discussion before May 3rd, it would help a lot.

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Yeah I see but yeah yeah.

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It in just wait for one week because yeah it's very safe, Hoonah, yeah. Ok, that's.

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Perfect, so let's just follow up in the Middle East, so any of you has such limitations. It's fine! It's not a blocker, it's not even a problem. We just need to know about it and yeah. We also have mentors and the orchid means on vacations. So we do not want everybody to sacrifice their life in order to do this or project, and so we will have communications in order to make all this things smooth.

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So yeah regarding your project since I'm the mental I, think that we just need to told me whether we each litter, and if you have a second now, we can just agree on that and that's it.

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So far, would you prefer to use git, er, FC or other channel I.

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Think I will use it. It yeah I think.

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If you do well.

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Any Church has its own downsize. If you use get over, then you probably have enough memory on your machine and yeah yeah yeah yeah. It is a place for every modern application.

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Unfortunately, so yeah I think we will need to install so create a depository in Jenkins, but I follow I will follow up in the main list in order to stop it properly.

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So yeah as mentor I will try to help you so that you concentrate on the study and we do all the work not to set it up and hope that other makeups will also help you to do this work because yeah Oh, almost all mentors, are participants in the jenkees community and we have at least one jake is expert in every project. So we will help you to great such community. Things done without spending lots of time on studying documentation, etc. So we will kick-start as soon as possible. Okay.

A

And you have the questions.

E

Hi olli I want to ask that if anytime happens like none of my mentors is available and I am having a problem in proceeding. So what should I do.

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So you should pink orchid means, I mean if mentors are not available, you just start there and a male threat or whatever at orchid, means to CC so or that means should be able to help in this case, and we have a pretty good stems on average, so I'm lucky to the neuro, Martin and Steven allocated in the United States so effectively. We cover for almost all time zones.

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So if mentors are just not available and you have something person we can help with it if mentors are unavailable for long time, so something like one week, it's a completely different story and yeah such case review also help, but they're barely expect mentors and to be available and to respond within 48 hours, but is according to what we have in our documentation.

A

Okay, thank you yeah, but yeah. You are just project contributor. So for the most of queries, if you need some permissions, if you IC defect, you can also use all public channels to request help from the Jencks community. So you are not limited to only mentors and orchid means, and if you have something like missing permission or whatever, you can actually go forward them to just ask questions and the public charts and lists and that they were much more people for able to help.

E

Okay, okay, yeah sure and I regarding my pull request on github. So the problem is that I added the code and you said that it looks good, but the problem is the checkbox is not rendering when I am testing it on my local machine, okay, so yeah.

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And this that should I can on me would be try your pull request. I'll do my best to do it tomorrow. I'm sorry, for the delay in this topic, but yeah I will just try your pull request and see what's missing, or maybe it's just something browser specific. So, let's see it's from the code perspective, it looks good but maybe also missing something.

E

Okay, thank you. Okay, so.

A

Your pull request is related to remote inside, but your project isn't about remoting, but there needs it so would be useful to have seen a list, and probably a farmer would be also interested to take a look at this field. Request.

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Have any other questions left I.

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Guess no and then thanks everybody- and you have see you on the evening or maybe next week and let's continue discussions in the mailing list: okay, I'm, stopping the broadcast. Okay.

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Thank you or leg.