Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 9 Dec 2020

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Recording of the regular office hours, with a short Q&A with students. Full agenda and meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H0gJt1zdr37YDpuSLXSeFqYco_a_CIrAuZ1f0Oyl4XE/edit#heading=h.que9twu9qli8

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Well, uh welcome to google summer of uh called office house um yeah. We represented the jenkins optimization, and today we talked specifically about any questions related to google summer, of course, jenkins and jenkins x projects and thanks to everyone who joined people again, I don't have specific agenda for today.

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Mark do you well, so I had. I had one that I've given more thought to. You had suggested in last week's session that one of the ideas I had might be a good quick start topic, and I'm not sure if any of the the students that are interested are are curious about possible quick start projects that they might test drive. If so that that, for me, would be an interesting one.

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The the is is this a place where it would be okay to talk about possible quick start things to give people gives candidates an opportunity to experiment with something.

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Yeah, that's for sure, so how we usually do it in project ideas. We have a quick start guidelines which are embedded in the project. Ideas.

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So and yeah, one of the options uh would be to just put your quick start ideas. Then you're, especially very specific to your project.

B

Which they are and that's this would be a that's a good point or so in my case, what I should do is I've got a larger idea, start the draft of that and in the quick start section for that larger idea, it's still a draft. It's not it's not ready for publishing. Yet on the page, but there I put the quick start in there and the quick start idea just becomes a a sub item underneath the project idea. Good. Okay, thanks.

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Okay yeah, so this is the best way. Moreover, it's required for published project ideas.

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Any other questions comments from quickstart uh in the previous meetings. I gave you a lot of questions today.

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So yeah there is also a self-introduction from sagar in the chat thanks for your interest, thanks for joining the call, and since there is no other questions comments, let's just press it with connie, so we have three students on the call today. uh Do you have any new questions or do you need any clarification.

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So could I rephrase sagar's comment as a question sagar? Are you really asking? How do I get started or what are some guidelines on ways to get started or is? Am I misinterpreting your message in chat.

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Okay, yeah, so tech stack, I yeah by the way you can just convert yourself and ask the question. So it's a public forum um yeah. So the question is how to get uh started and for that we have some guidelines published in our community. So if we go to gsoc there is a student guide, so student guide.

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So information application guidelines for students and there is.

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Some information about how to apply how to get started but yeah. This is actually a good question. Maybe we need another guide which just focuses on how to get started: students because yeah we discussed multiple times, but we don't have this guide explicitly on the page. So maybe I should get additional implementation.

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Okay, so again, I will just uh pass through what we discussed in the last few things.

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um If you want to get started, uh the best stuff is just take a look at the project ideas and to explore jenkins in this area, so you can, for example, if you want to work on plugin management, uh it would be good, but you need to just explore this tool.

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uh Try it out most likely, you will experience a lot of different issues because your documentation could be improved. Also cli could be improved, and if you see these issues, submitting it back and submitting short fixes is the best way to start, and you can try it together with jenkins and then study jenkins.

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For example, about android development stack, we have quite a number of plugins for including android link and other student plugins, so you can just uh try them out so take jenkins, install all plugins. You need configure them and try automating your project with jenkins.

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It would be a good introduction to the tool and uh it can be also a good opportunity for you to get started, for example, with this project, because you definitely need to manage plugins and you can export it from there or maybe you want to trigger these plugins from test api in order to automate your pipeline, then again, you can just go to the specification, generator and other bits and see what rest apis could be needed, depending on this use case.

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Okay and yeah my action item I will take that is to actually just getting started, or maybe somebody else wants to edit.

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So yeah and and that's thinking about that getting started pages, that's different than the the participate page for code or is it? Is it some derivative of that? Oh, like I'm, trying to.

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Because it should basically get students how to get started with g-shock. Obviously we need a reference to a main participate need to guide students to just try contributing somewhere or to explore the projects. But I think that it should be a different perspective.

B

Okay, so it's it's not it's not it it because of the specific nature of google's number of code. It needs to be more than just here's. The participate page makes sense thanks.

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You'll definitely create something.

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Yeah, just looking at the item below, actually I can break up to the common.

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Okay, um so other other questions.

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uh Can I know that by whom our proposals will be evaluated? I mean uh by your organization or by google.

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Actually, both but commonly the distribution that google focuses on eligibility check so that they can ensure that you can participate in the project and the projects focus on the technical part. So, as a project, we review the most of the proposal, including the specification timeline.

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It's also our responsibility to double check your availability when it comes to other commitments, because again, google uh handles formal parts and you handle the project. Part.

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Usually, when we do reviews for the proposals, the most of the reviews happen during the application phase, because we expect the students to submit proposal drafts earlier so that they could get fair feedback, and it means that basically any joint contributor or, for example, any other interesting student.

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Anybody can provide feedback and you will see who provides this feedback, and this is the key to depart after that yeah. There are additional reviews happening after the end of the application uh date. Usually, it's uh orca means you refined that you have explicit answers about availability, etc or again or had means and members running the projects, but our experience that potential mentors already built their opinion during the application phase.

A

So there are australia that we just start reviewing the proposal in private after using the application.

C

Yeah then, it is better to uh send a draft proposal earlier right.

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C

uh When should we present that when should we send a draft process.

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When you're ready, there is no specific timeline, so on the google summer, of course, you can find that there is applications open. So student application period begins on march 29th.

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uh So what it means that, starting from this day, you can submit your application draft to google, but for us this date doesn't really matter because for us you can submit the application. After once, you're ready it can be reviewed, and what matters is this deadline that you should submit the final application before this deadline.

C

Okay, thank you.

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If you have a proposal now, you can already start discussing it in the mailing list. So yeah. There is a lot of things to review and yeah. There might be changes in the project release by the beginning of gsoc.

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Definitely there will be more project ideas, but nothing blocks you from creating a proposal drop to them.

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Now, um michael, um I have one question, um so is it possible that we can contribute earlier than g? So if we have the right skill set to get started.

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So you ask whether you can contribute with gsoc. Yes, you can. You can continue to basically well jenkins, is an open source project, so everything is open. You have participation guidance available, for example, here where you can find a lot of different domains where you can configure and as a student, you are totally invited to contribute at any moment when you're interested and doing some contributions is, of course, a good opportunity to get introduced to the project and to explore the code base.

D

Okay, yeah got it yeah. Thank you.

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Yeah, there is a lot of components. So, since you're asking about android, you can just go and search for android plugins, and here you can see that there are 23 plugins, which are exclusively a reference android, so yeah that some of these plugins definitely benefit from contributions and patches.

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So just take a look.

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Thank you to further support, oleg's comment on encouraging students to contribute early. It helps build your skills, it helps build your association with the community and it helps others as they see your involvement, so yeah and it helps the project. Please. Yes,.

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Contribute so add any other questions.

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And then yeah, probably we can take some break and just check up some action items so that we don't miss them. We still need.

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Next and yeah other action item is actually a send call for participation.

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I have written a draft, but unfortunately I didn't send it, so I will do it.

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And what else do you have and then you can start.

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Your mark has an action item to actually submit this project idea.

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Okay, let's see olivia on the call.

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Did you have any questions or ideas about gsoc? I'm not sorry! I'm just listening!

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So I guess if there is no other questions, that's all for today, but if you have any questions we still have.

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Okay, then no questions see you all. Next week we will do the meeting using common time and yeah if you're interested about participating in jenkins. We have one friendly program: uh google season of dogs. This was a problem which ended uh just last week and uh our monkey will be doing jenkins online hit up today.

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If you're interested, you can just join these things online github and get some insights about how the project went in the community, and maybe it will provide you some additional.

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So now, thanks.

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