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A
B
B
B
That's
very
good
you're
on
before
me
great
welcome
to
today's
chisok
meeting,
we're
we're
very
excited,
but
you
suck
all
our
proposed
ideas
have
been
moved
to
acceptance
date
which
in
practice
they
were
already
in,
but
it's
very
good
to
keep
that
in
line
with
previous
practices
and
as
as
most
of
you
probably
know,
we've
submitted
our
g-stock
org
application
as
part
of
the
cdf.
So
that's
all
about
end.
It's
all
good.
B
We
shall
hear
back
march
9th,
so
that's
really
exciting
times
and
today
really
we're
here
to
answer
questions
from
students
and
mentors
so
there's
no
outstanding
admin
or
business
things
to
do
from
my
side.
It's
really
just
an
open
forum
for
you
all
to
ask
questions
about
jenkins,
about
getting
started
with
jenkins,
about
open
source
about
the
community
about
g-suck
anything
you
like.
D
A
To
discuss
with
any
of
the
students,
if
they'd
like
to
talk
further
about
what
that
draft
might
mean,
we
had
one
student
that
was
previously
asking
questions
about
the
specific
tool
that
is
proposed
in
that
so
and
they
were
doing
some
exploring
with
it.
So
it's
a
different,
a
different
idea
using
a
similar
tool
that
they'd
used
before
excellent.
Well,
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about
it.
Would
you
like
to
share
your
screen
and
sure
you
bet
yeah,
so
so
the
the
tool
is,
let's
see,
sharing
screen
and
it'll
be
just
a
minute.
B
While
you're
doing
that,
what
I'll
say
is
I
love
that
you
have
done
another
project
idea
proposal,
and
I
think
this
is
a
really
great
illustration
of
the
idea
that
anyone
can
still
make
project
proposals.
So,
even
though
we
have
submitted
our
application,
we
are
still
open
for
project
proposals
that
just
creates.
You
know
more
variety
for
students
to
choose
from
more
engagement.
We
welcome
new
mentors
and
we
welcome
more
project.
I
guess.
A
A
The
other
is
the
properties
documentation
that
are
just
enormous
pages,
with
expanding
and
contracting
sections
and
and
this
is
generated
from
code
and
since
it
is
generated
from
code,
it
seems
like
a
viable
project
for
someone
to
find
a
better
way
to
write
that
code,
so
that,
instead
of
once
one
single
monster
page
for
checkout,
we
would
have
many
smaller
pages
now.
There's
a
transition
challenge
there
and
we
don't
want
to
break
hyperlinks.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
for
sharing.
That's
a
really
interesting
project
idea
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
find
really
appealing
about
it
is.
We
may
indeed
get
more
involvement
from
people
who
are
already
involved
in
the
jenkins
doc
sig,
which
mark
is
very
involved
in
so
that
would
be
really
nice.
We
want
to
open
up
gsoc
to
as
many
people
from
as
many
routes
as
possible,
and
I
I
really
like
this
product
idea.
A
A
We
could
we,
it
would
benefit
to
have
at
least
one
more
kristin
is
willing
to
mentor,
but
she's
also
offered
to
mentor
other
projects.
So
so
it's
java
code
and
it
it
would
do
well
if
they
had
some
javascript
background
or
some
some
doc
site
so
jenkins.io
background
as
well,
but
yeah.
I
would
love
to
have
additional
mentors.
D
A
Will
it's
great
since
I,
since
I
detected
an
error
in
the
page
anyway,
I
need
to
submit
a
correction
to
that
page.
So,
oleg
I'll
add
you
in
that
same
correction,
pull
request,
there's
a
little
bit
of
embarrassing
ascii
doc
mistake
on
that
page
that
I
need
to
fix
so
I'll,
get
that
fixed
and
include
you
as
a
potential
mentor
in
that
same
pull
request
all.
D
B
Am
sure
your
expertise
will
be
very
much
appreciated.
Yes,
I
think
we're
at
the
limit
of
five
work
admins,
but
I
think
the
level
of
time
commitment
maybe
varies
between
them.
So
we
can.
We
can
raise
up
in
any
case,
I'm
sure
I'm
sure
everyone
will
be
very
happy.
They
have
your
expertise
all
right.
So
thank
you.
That's.
A
B
B
One
of
the
things
that
I
will
ask
g
suck
because
I
have
been
mulling.
This
potential
is
for
this
round
of
g-shock
this
this
year
they
are
allowing
applicants
who
are
maybe
not
in
a
formal
academic
program
of
study.
B
My
understanding
is
that
they
are
opening
it
up
to
individuals
who
have
also
gone
to
a
boot
camp,
although
it
may
have
to
be
an
accredited
boot
camp,
but
I
would
love
to
find
out
if
things
like
the
boot
camp,
that.
B
Is
running
in
africa
and
is
very
involved
in
with
she
codes
africa
and
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
we
that
would
maybe
qualify
and
we
could
maybe
find
students
and
mentors
there.
I
think
that'd
be
a
really
interesting
collaboration,
but
it
is
something
that
I
need
to
ask
you
to
talk
about,
because
that's
a
change
in
the
rules
for
this
year.
D
A
B
E
E
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question
regarding
that
plug-in
installation
manager,
that
project
idea
and
last
in
last
meeting
olek
said
that
he'll
go
to
the
project
idea
website
and
maybe
add
some
or
do
some
changes
on
that.
Like
I
wanna
ask
like
did
he
do
those
changes,
because
I
I
like
followed
that
website,
but
wasn't
able
to
like
find
any
change.
D
E
D
D
Yeah
there
may
be
several
major
changes.
I
firstly
in
terms
of
how
the
plugins
list
manager
is
organized,
and,
secondly,
there
were
a
lot
of
stabilization
work
and
adoption
work.
Still.
If
you
take
a
look
at
the
code,
there
is
a
lot
of
low
hanging
fruit
there,
for
example,
average
propagation,
also
logging,
because
these
tasks
have
been
identified
as
something
we
need
to
do.
So
these
are
tasks
you
can
take
a
look
at
at
the
moment
and
for
improvement
perspectives.
D
We
have
a
lot
of
items.
We
could
improve
in
terms
of
upgrade
management,
so,
for
example,
how
you
update
plugins,
how
do
you
verify
update
centers,
how
you
manage
mirrors?
D
There
is
a
lot
of
options
you
can
add,
and
also
there
are
some
differences
between
plugin
installation
manager
and
the
previous
scripts,
because
previous
scripts
used
to
use
system
tools,
for
example,
for
downloading
plugins
and
this
system
tools.
For
example,
we
used
a
system
configuration
of
proxy
settings
and
when
we
started
switching
to
the
plugin
installation
manager
tool,
it
appeared
that
some
of
these
advanced
options
do
not
work
because
they
have
never
been
fully
documented.
D
It
is
how
would
you
use
plugin
installation
manager
in
this
enterprise
use
cases
so
ensuring
that
you
can
configure
proxy
settings
download
retries
yeah,
maybe
that
you
can
but
verify
plugin
consistency
on
download,
for
example,
today
we
blocked
one
plugin
on
the
update
center
because
it
was
not
hpi
file,
but
it
was
public
text
file
downloaded
with
the
hpi
extension
and
I'm
pretty
sure
that
plugin
installation
manager
in
this
case
would
fail,
with
whatever
crap
exception.
D
A
A
mirror,
oh,
it
does.
Okay,
it
just
doesn't
do
it.
Well,
I
see
okay,
I
know
we've
had
we've
had
cases
where
one
or
more
of
the
mirrors
were
behaving
badly
or
erratically,
and
we
would
get
reports
from
users
hey.
My
plugin
installation
manager
call
failed.
D
E
D
Item
you
may
want
to
consider
is
working
with
non-standard
update
centers,
because
here
we
have
jenkins
update
center
and
there
are
other
date
centers.
So,
for
example,
there
is
a
project
called
update
center
2
in
jenkins
infrastructure,
which
you
can
build
and
deploy
your
own
update
center.
There
is
also
giuseppe
project
in
jenkins
organization,
which
is
embedded
update
center.
D
Some
vendors
provide
custom,
update,
centers,
so,
for
example,
cloudbis
offers
customer
data
centers
in
its
products
and
with
all
these
update,
centers
plugin
installation
manager
behaves
let's
see
slightly
differently,
because
sometimes
it
lacks
information
etc
and
improving
test
coverage
and
adding
support
for
other
update.
Centers
is
also
something
we
could
do.
E
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
like
I
was
like
previously
when
I
was
exploring
this
project.
I
did
not
look
into
the
update
center
part
that
much,
but
now
you
have
mentioned
it
so
well
I'll,
go
into
that,
and
there
is
one
more
part
about
that.
Jake
ask
like
integration
with
this
jk,
so
we
are
going
to
focus
on
that
for
this
year.
A
D
D
D
E
E
E
Hi
everyone
I
have.
I
have
two
questions,
actually
hi
mark
hi
everyone.
So
my
first
question
is
that
what
is
the
process
for
a
potential
mentor
to
become
a
mentor
if
there
is
a
process
if
there
exists
a
process
for
that?
The
second
question
is
that
what
are
the
responsibilities
for
a
potential
mentor
before
the
submission
of
student
application,
and
should
I
refer
to
the
doc
which
was
designed
for
gsoc
2020
for
the
mentors?
D
D
A
D
Well,
so
the
main
need
is
not
to
submit
a
list
but
to
be
actually
active
in
the
project
idea
channels,
because
yeah
there
are
already
students
reaching
out
and
asking
questions
if
cdf
gets
accepted,
and
hopefully
it
will,
then
there
will
be
even
more
students
and
yeah.
The
most
critical
part
at
the
moment
is
to
actually
guide
the
students
and
help
them
to
process
project
ideas
and
come
up
with
actual
proposals.
And
this
way
we
need
mentors.
A
Well
and-
and
that's
a
that's
a
great
example
of
of
rishov,
where
you
and
I
are
almost
12
hours
apart
from
each
other
right
so
so
we
have
nearly
24-hour
day
coverage.
I
actually
get
to
sleep
and
you
get
to
sleep.
So
it's
a
big
win
for
both
of
us
and
for
cara,
who
is
who
is
six
hours
off
set
from
the
two
of
us
so
so.
D
Well,
you
can
innovate
bruno
he's
in
new
zealand
close
enough.
B
We
definitely
welcome
additional
mentors
and
the
more
mentors
the
more
engagement
for
students,
but
also
the
more
flexibility
on
the
for
the
mentors
who
are
involved,
so
it's
easier
to
cover
if
people
need
to
take
weeks
off
for
their
own
lives.
So
that's
quite
nice
and
also
the
reduced
hours
of
gsoc
this
summer
will
mean
in
all
likelihood,
students
will
be
producing
slightly
smaller
projects,
and
we
expect
that
and
slightly
less
code.
B
A
I
I
owe
an
expression
of
gratitude
to
ayan
goel,
for
contributions
already
made
to
the
get
client
plug-in
test
transformation.
We've
had
a
test
transformation
project
that
richard
helps
help
start
18
months
ago,
rishabh
that
we've
been
we've
been
working
and
it
had
paused
and
had
no
traction.
Ayan
has
helped
it
restart
it.
Thank
you
very
much
and
it's
I.
A
C
Thank
you.
Actually,
that
project
was
very.
I
can't
I
actually
prefer
java
projects,
and
I
was
a
bit
at
the
start
like
anxious
to
work
on
jenkins.
Like
jenkins,
is
such
an
organization
we
all
have
here.
If
we
have
not
used
jenkins
still,
we
know
jeff
what
jenkins
is
and
ultimately
finding
such
an
issue.
I
started
looking
and
it
took
me
some
days,
but
ultimately,
with
your
guidance
and
the
project
was
like,
I
learned
so
much
about
testing
and
using
junit
on
java.
C
It
actually
helped
me
understand
the
whole
interclient
plugin
and
and
by
which
I
would
also
able
to
understand
the
idea
somewhat.
I
still
like
behind
some
ways
to
on
the
binding
side
here
and
I'm
still
exploring
about
it,
but
I
would
say:
testing
and
using
the
test
are
very
much
important
in
understanding
code
base
for
any
project
and,
like
you
said
mark,
you
were
not
rude
at
all.
C
A
Super
so,
and
there's
still
lots
of
work
to
do
on
that
and
and
ion
you
are
not
expected
to
do
all
of
it.
Just
it's
good
to
get
some
experience
and
then
you
can
look
at
other
things.
I
I
assume
that's
part
of
the
experience
here
for
you
as
students
is
that
you
explore
a
little
bit
of
several
different
areas
and
explore
intentionally
knowing
that
you're
not
going
to
do
deeply
until
until
you're
ready
to
submit
a
project
proposal.
B
Indeed,
that's
a
great
way
for
students
to
explore
what
they
would
be
interested
in
working
on
and
to
be
learning
the
whole
time
so.
D
Yeah,
I
also
have
a
question
about
google
season
of
dogs.
Actually,
so
how
do
we
want
to
organize
it
this
year?
Would
it
be
gsoxy,
or
would
it
be
advocacy
and
outreach,
or
would
it
be
somewhere
on
the
cdf
level.
A
B
Okay,
so
guys
question
is
actually
it's
just
a
very
nice
comment,
but
there
may
be
an
implicit
question
following
I
uploaded
my
jenkins
on
remote
server
on
cloud
ocean
and
container
wise
containerized
with
docker.
That
was
a
nice
experience.
A
Excellent,
so
was
that
using
digital
ocean,
which
I
am
curious,
which
providers
you're
using
because
we've
got
we've
had
promotional
offers
from
various
cloud
providers.
Amazon
has
an
initiative.
Google
has
one
we
just
I
just
heard
about
digitalocean's
offering
recently-
and
I
know
oracle
has
one.
So
several
of
the
cloud
providers
offer
free
free
first
month,
kind
of
experiences
where
they'll
give
you
a
certain
amount
of
hours
or
certain
amount
of
dollars
was,
was
that
where
it
was
sagar,
okay,
so
use
the
credits
good,
all
right,
very
good.
A
So
next
next
topic,
then,
should
we
take
on
oleg's
question
about
google
google's
season
of
docs,
so
the
that
one's
a
little
scary
for
me,
because
it's
due
march
24th,
so
we've
only
we've
got
less
than
a
month
now
to
get
our
submission
ready
and
my
intent
was
to
do
a
sorry
to
do
a
pull
request
to
the
to
re.
Basically
reuse,
2020's
pattern
in
2021,
even
though
they've
got
a
different
thing
different.
There
are
some
changes
in
their
processing.
A
The
changes
in
the
processing
that
most
worry
mail
lag
actually
are
related
to
governance
and
finances.
They
use
a
different
financial
technique
where
the
the
project
hires,
the
the
writer
and
pays.
The
writer
and
google
gives
money
to
the
project
and
that's
when
I'm
not
sure
how
to
make
it
work
yeah.
So,
regarding.
D
Stipend
one
time
one
we
can
just
use
community
reach,
but
community
bridge
cannot
be
used
to
pay
salaries
so,
depending
on
the
country
legislation,
the
gsoc
program
may
be
considered
a
in
different
way,
so,
whether
it's
legal
or
not
so,
for
example,
in
the
united
states,
when
you
go
to
gsoc,
you
may
need
to
get
permission
from
your
university
so
that
it
counts
towards
the
program,
especially
if
you're
a
foreign
student
and
in
such
case
it
might
be
a
problem
to
pay
this
different
from
community
bridge.
A
D
So
application
we.
A
D
D
D
Okay,
so
regarding
documentation,
one
we
created
last
year
should
be
relevant
enough,
it's
not
as
expensive
as
g-shock,
but
but
it
was
good
enough
for
the
application
we
just
can't
keep
it,
as
is
the
main
problem,
is
again
project
ideas.
A
And
and
those
we're
discussing
in
the
doc
special
interest
group
and
the
office
hours
for
doc,
so
the
monday
afternoon,
okay,
monday
late
european
time
and
thursday
end
of
day
africa
time
we're
discussing
so
zenob
and
kristin
have
been
involved
in
those
discussions.
We'll
continue
gathering
those
and
those
will
be
part
of
the
pull
request
yeah.
So
I've
got
a
number
of
project
ideas
in
the
notes
already.
A
That
actually
was
was
what
inspired
the
pipeline
step
stock
generator
project
was
we've
been
discussing
in
doc's
office
hours
and
realized?
Really,
this
is
a
coding
exercise,
not
a
the
docs
pipeline
step.
Stock
generator
is
all
about
code,
even
though
what
it
generates
is
docs
and
is,
is
very
much
similar
to
the
rest.
Api
concept
idea,
that's
already
accepted
or
yeah
already
an
accepted
project
idea.
D
So
tons
of
questions
in
the
chat,
jsoc
and
json
they
are
formally
conducted
in
parallel,
so
their
timelines
overlap.
But
at
the
same
time
my
timelines
are
different.
So
the
implementation
part
active
part
for
students
and
mentors
they're
different,
and
there
are
examples
of
students
applying
to
both
programs.
A
Well,
and
and
the
the
the
eligible
applicants
to
google
season
of
docs
are
actually
different
than
than
google
summer
of
code
right
summer
of
code
is
intentionally
limited
to
students.
Google
season
of
docs
aspires
to
invite
professional
writers
who
may
be
well
into
their
careers
to
contribute
to
open
source.
So
it's
it's
not
just
students.
Students
are
also
welcome,
but
it's
it's
students
and
potentially
people
who
are
working
as
as
full-time
writing.
Professionals.
D
Already
but
well,
j
thought
documentation
explicitly
allows
not
only
professional
writers,
but
also
so
students
may
be
eligible
right.
At
the
same
time,
yeah.
The
recommendation
is
to
focus
on
the
on
one
program
and
well,
if
you're
interested
in
google,
seasonal
vlogs,
the
application
period
will
be
august
and
september.
So
probably
it's
too
early
to
worry
about
it.
Anyway,
all.
B
Right
for
google
season
of
docs
last
year,
forging
and
sex,
we
did
have
a
young
developer
very,
very
early
in
his
career.
I
guess
young
isn't
the
right
word
but
early
in
his
career
and
he
brought
a
lot
to
the
documentation
project
and
did
really
interesting
work
that
was
really
strongly
using
his
coding
skills,
but
really
improved
the
jenkins
x
documentation.
B
So
there
is
always
that
angle
as
well.
If,
if
individuals
are
interested
so
there's
lots
of
ways
to
approach
who
would
be
involved
in
google
season
of
docs
and
what
they
would
contribute,
so
it's
kind
of
it's
got.
It
has
a
nice
broad
scope
and
what
we
really
want
are
applicants
who
just
are
very
committed
to
open
source
the
project
and
and
are
very
committed
to
their
own
work
and
I'm
really
engaged
and
excited
to
to
to
be
part
of
a
season
of
docs
and
to
contribute.
B
So
it's
quite
nice,
we're
happy
to
I
mean
mark-
is
really
involved
in
it.
But
I
said
there's
that.
B
Scope,
do
we
have
any
more
questions
on
either
season
of
drugs
or
google
support
code
or
jenkins
any
anything,
and
then
we'll
any
more
issues
to
discuss.
B
Okay,
good
all
right,
I
think
we
can
wrap
up
basically
the
half
an
hour
good
meeting.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
so
happy
that
oleg
is,
is
available
and
able
to
take
a
stronger
step,
mentoring
and
advising
on
the
organ
men.
We
really
welcome
that.
So
that's
a
great
addition
to
give.