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A
Welcome
to
jenkins
governance
meeting
it's
the
26th
of
january
2022
great
to
have
everybody
here.
Thank
you
so
topics.
I've
got
on
the
agenda
news.
A
A
And
the
ux
sig
had
a
a
good
session
last
week
where
jan
ferecich
presented
his
latest
iteration
of
jenkins
ui
improvements.
The
recording
is
available
in
link
there
and
it's
looking
very
good.
The.
U.
The
lts
baseline,
includes
many
of
those,
but
he's
highlighted
even
more
that
he
has
pending
so
2.3332.
A
And
then,
thanks
to
gavin,
the
jruby
and
jython-based
plugins
have
been
dropped
from
the
update
center,
and
so
I
I
didn't
really.
I
wrote
a
blog
post
that
the
only
bit
of
this
I
was
involved
in
and
everyone
keeps
claiming
I
got
involved.
Actually
that's
that's
already
that
that
should
remind
you
that
you
can
contribute
to
open
source
in
many
ways,
and
in
this
case
you
contributed
very
nicely
by
spurring
people.
We
should
do
well
as.
B
A
Any
moment,
okay
understood,
oh
like
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
That's
great,
so
topic
I
had
opened
on
the
mailing
list
was
around
linux
platform,
support
policy
and
wanted
to
hear
if
there
were
any
guiding
points
from
the
governing
board
oleg.
I
thought
your
point
was
very,
very
reasonable
that
hey
this
is
not
really
a
governance
topic
per
se,
so
it
could
just
proceed
through
the
technical
discussions
on
the
pull
request.
Any
other
guidance
that
others
want
to
want
to
offer
or
oleg
that
you
want
to
offer
on
that.
One.
C
Well,
no
particular
guidance.
It
would
be
great
to
have
any
kind
of
documentation,
because
currently
we
don't
well.
Linux
is
generally
more
tricky
than
other
platforms
because
well
again,
it's
not
just
linux.
There
are
many
target
architectures
these
linux
distributions
may
be
running
on
and
if
you
recommend
it,
I
would
rather
be
specific
what
what
architecture
would
be
included,
because
we
don't
test
on
anything
beyond
the
md64
at
the
moment.
Well,
we
have
some
armed
setups
but
yeah.
The
must
experience
much
more
complicated.
A
A
C
Well,
it's
something
to
improve;
eventually,
I
mean
having
any
documentation
is
better
than
having
no
documentation,
though
well.
To
be
honest,
I
would
expect
the
jenkins
to
run
on
all
distributions
more
or
less
so.
Historically,
we
had
issues
with
some
font
packages
which
were
not
available
on
some
platforms.
I
still
remember
if
it
was
debian
or
whatever
what
else
you
had
for
well
generally,
if
you
use
standard
java,
it
shouldn't
be
a
big
deal
on
md64
right.
B
C
Well
for
windows
support
it's
quite
explicit
what
support
means,
and
we
also
have
support
md,
which
is
also
quite
explicit
but
supported.
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
provide
any
kind
of
slay
or
whatever.
B
A
Right,
I
I
think
it's
a
valid
valid
point.
We
at
a
minimum,
it
feels
like
we
should
have
consistent
phrasing
across
the
pages
where
we
use
that
particularly
sensitive
word
right.
The
word
support
is
sensitive
and
we
should
try
to
be
consistent.
We've
got
the
word,
support
on
the
browser
page
and
we've
got
it
on
the
windows
page,
and
it
should
be
consistent
across
those
two
pages
and
this
linux
page,
but
it
makes
makes
sense.
A
A
Sorry
go
ahead.
Ola
you
think
okay,
so
next
topic
was
again
that
the
dangers
were
dropping
support
for
internet
explorer
11.,
so
tim
jacom
has
proposed
a
poll
request,
noting
that
microsoft
will
stop
supporting
internet
explorer
11
as
of
june
2022,
and
if
they
don't
support
security
fixes
for
it.
I
don't
feel
any
compelling
reason
for
us
to
support
it.
A
B
Think
we
should
be
more
aggressive
about
it.
Honestly,
I
mean
you
know,
snarkiness
aside,
I.e.
No
one
who's
going
to
who's
using
ie
11
is
going
to
be
upgrading
to
lasers
and
jenkins.
B
You
know
just
by
the
nature
of
people
using
old
tech,
they
don't
upgrade
to
news
tech,
so
I
think
we
we
could
literally
drop
it
now
and
nobody
wouldn't
really
make
a
fuss
right
other
than
the
fact
that
they
might
see
a
blog
post
saying
we're
doing
it
yeah.
That
being
said,
I
think
we
should
be
clear
on
what
support
means.
Just
like
it's
been
like
10
years
since
we
updated
that
page.
So
just
be
like
you
know,
we
run.
Do
we
run
automated
tests?
We
don't
run
across
cross
browser
automated
tests.
B
I
think
we
only
ever
do
one
at
a
time
anyways.
So
just
you
know
very
clear
what
auto
it
means
to
be
because
the
differences
between
core
and
plug-ins
you
know
this
is
this
is
core
supports
it,
not
necessarily
a
plug-in,
supported
and
long
as
the
same
as
the
other.
You
know
the
same
linux
support
as
long
as
we're
clear
with
all
those
things.
Then
I
think
yeah
we
can
be
fairly
aggressive
about
it.
We
can
even
start
removing
code.
You
know
if
we
wanted
to.
C
Yeah
it
was
given,
but
we
can
be
more
aggressive
technically.
At
the
same
time,
there
is
no
practical
reason
to
be
more
aggressive,
because
we
can
declare
that
it's
basically
duplicated
in
a
weekly
effective
immediately.
C
It's
okay
here
for
the
ts,
yeah,
the
only
each
case
if
there
is
a
security,
vulnerability
related
to
internet
explorer,
discovered
until
june,
which
is
let's
say
quite
unlikely,
so
I
think
that
it's
okay
to
just
drop
it
and
do
not
force
it
until
the
next
things.
Yes,
when
we
add
it
to
the
pre
guidelines,
good
luck!
Everyone.
A
B
B
A
B
A
C
A
C
B
There
are
quite
excellent:
there
are
quite
a
few
that
will
have
it
installed,
but
almost
all
won't
require
mandated
like
I
used
to
work
at
companies
that
mandated
he
had
to
use
internet
explorer.
But
a
lot
of
companies
now
have
like
a
portable,
install
or
a
secondary
install
of
firefox.
So
you
can
still
use
the
old
apps
in
ie11
wow
yeah,
but
a
lot
of
those
ones
that
are
not
doing
that
are
still
mandating:
windows,
10
and
windows
xp.
So
again,
they're,
not
ones
they're
gonna
upgrade.
So
I
don't
really
care
all
right.
A
C
So
current
update
is
that
we
have
easy
silly
installed
and
enabled
for
unified
cla.
So
this
is
our
previous
repository
where
we
used
to
push
certificates.
C
We
haven't
updated
the
guidelines
yet
on
this
repository
and
we
need
to
update
the
guidance
on
this
repository.
It's
my
action
item,
so
I
will
do
it
right
after
I
complete
fosdom
recordings,
which
sounds
right
to
take
in
the
date,
but
okay
and
the
what
else
we
also
discussed
in
implementation
central.
C
I
really
submitted
the
request
for
enabling
for
the
github
repository,
which
practically
makes
no
sense
but
yeah.
I
just
wanted
the
bot
to
be
technically
enabled
on
this
repository.
Should
someone
want
to
enable
it
because,
for
me
it
makes
sense
if
it's
enabled
for
some
infrastructure
representation,
we
don't
expect
white
contributions,
like
let's
say
just
the
jenkins
slashing
from
charles
etc,
but
it's
totally
up
to
the
infrastructure
team
to
decide.
A
C
So
currently
cla
won't
be
enforced.
Unless
you
enable
the
cla
bot
and
range
protection
on
a
repository,
you
can
enable
it
basically
just
by
clicking
carefully
buttons
as
a
maintainer,
but
if
you
don't
enable
it,
then
the
sili
won't
be
enforced.
So
basically
the
previous
behavior
remains.
But
if
there
is
a
repository
where
we
want
to
enable
sili,
then
you
just
enable
github
up.
A
Cla
enforced,
okay,
all
right,
so
it's
it
would
be
up
to
individual
repository
owners,
for
instance
plug
in
this
or
plug.
In
that
that
might
say,
I
really
want
a
cla
enforced
on
my
repository.
C
Yep,
no,
it's
actually
a
one
for
everything
yeah
and
if
you
assign
a
vcla
currently
you
send
it
well,
basically,
with
the
continuous
delivery
foundation,
so
all
projects
under
the
umbrella,
including
tipton,
etc.
You
can
also
contribute
very
specifically.
B
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
repeat
this
because
then
I
can
write
notes
and
I
can
make
sure
I
got
this
easy.
Cla
is
currently
a
linux
or
wide
the
cla
earth
pdf
wide,
and
then
we
have
it
installed
on
the
or
at
least
functionally
enabled
on
both
jenkins
and
jenkins
infra
organizations,
and
we
have
to
enable
it
per
repo
as
we
as
we
desire.
C
No
so
fault
series:
I
will
send
a
request
why
it's
required
because
the
document
itself
changed.
So
you
cannot
just
assume
that
whomever
signed
previously.
This
spi
here
would
send
a
slave
with
the
continuous
delivery
foundation
yeah
and
I
think,
at
the
fair
requirement.
I
just
want
to
make.
A
A
C
It
works
so
if
you
submit
contributions
from
your
company
email,
so
basically
at
cloudbiz.com,
so
if
cloud
business
science
company
acla
then
see
labor
will
accept
any
candidates
which
assigned
with
this
domain
identified
commits.
I
believe
there
is
some
magic
behind,
but
if
you
have
individual
silly,
which
is
also
mapped
to
your
github
account,
then
everything
is
fine.
C
C
A
C
Oleg
just
getting
it
over
the
line,
so
yeah,
another
heads
up
so
currently
lfx
inside
is
disabled
for
the
jenkins
community.
So
if
you
want
to
enable
it,
we
need
to
submit
the
request
to
the
linux
foundation.
That's
the
one
that
does
like
security
scanning
of
docker
images
and
stuff
right
now.
It's
well
basically
effects
insights
is
a
fork
of
courses
which
was
adapted
for
the
linux
foundation
needs
but
yeah.
It's
basically
github
contributions,
social
media.
Whatever
is
aggregator.
B
And
this
is
this
is
like
metrics,
not
actually
like
tweetdeck
or
something
that'll,
let
you
post
for
it.
This
is.
C
C
Yes,
we
need
to
submit
a
ticket
yeah
yeah.
If
I
have
some
experience
of
handling
that
just
about
me
yeah,
I
will
be
gradually
enabling
it
for
captain,
so
I'm
happy
to
continue
named
and
forging
is
very
reasonable.
The
biggest
problem
right
now
that
the
captain
is
a
sandbox
project
in
the
scenes
here.
So
we
do
to
get
full
services
from
the
linux
foundation.
B
A
Okay,
last
topic
then
highlights
from
the
mailing
list
and
community
forum
gavin
anything
that
you
wanted
to
highlight
here.
Nothing.
B
Comes
in
mind,
I
haven't
been
paying
enough
attention
so
but
nothing
comes
to
mind.
Okay,
it's
been
quiet.
I
guess
because
there's
been
no
lts
like
there's
been
no
major
notes.
The
meeting
minutes
continue
to
be
well
received.
A
And
I
don't
think,
there's
a
consensus
yet
but
there's
there's
interest
and
I
think
it's
worth
having
the
discussions
to
to
to
check
the
interest.
I
would
like
to
do
it.
I
I
think
it
would
be
a
help,
but
it
would
need
to
be
a
hybrid,
local
and
remote,
because
if
we
just
make
it
there
in
austin
texas,
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
get
the
attendance
we
want
well.
C
To
be
honest,
I
have
so
many
reservations
about
hybrid
events,
so
I
would
rather
do
separate
offline
event
and
online
event
than
try
to
do
a
hybrid
event.
C
C
Yeah
so
yeah
in
my
case,
I'm
not
sure
whether
I
would
be
able
to
go
to
austin.
I
will
start
my
visa
application
process
next
week.
It
may
succeed
in
time
may
not.
There
might
be
coronavirus
restrictions
so
generally,
I
want
to
go
to
citycon
because
they
will
both
foundation
member
summit,
governance,
board
meetings
etc.
So
generally,
it
makes
sense
for
me
to
go
there,
but
he
visa
is
unclear.
C
Oh
no
yeah,
so
why
I'm
asking
so
in
valencia?
There
is
part
jenkins
and
yeah.
If
we
ever
do
a
happy
hour,
then
then
I
know
everything
for
us.
C
Yeah
so
yeah,
I'm
currently
organizing
captain
community,
organizing,
it's
probably
a
big
world
but
yeah
I'm
making
some
progress
there
and
yeah
if
there
is
a
critical
mass
of
contributors.
A
A
C
Yeah
first
and
yeah
we
can
ask
ryan
ryan
doesn't
want
to
work
for
cloud
b's,
but
probably
he
would
be
willing
to
help
us
with
the
originalization
on
site.
A
Ryan
campbell,
yes,
cool.