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A
C
A
A
Nope,
okay,
so
by
way
of
news,
the
lts
was
released
today,
2.319.1
with
more
inclusive
naming
ui
improvements
and
some
removals
of
outdated
and
unsafe
components
thanks
very
much
to
everyone.
Who's
involved,
323
released
earlier
this
week
with
log
recorders
configured
as
code
and
path
to
html
path,
to
html
elements
or
using
stable
selectors
for
ui
testing
yay.
A
What
does
path
to
html
elements
mean?
It
means
that
when
you
need
to
refer
to
an
hcl
html
element
in
a
ui
driven
test,
the
thing
is
stable.
Now,
instead
of
unpredictable.
A
Right
and
I'm
sure
could
give
a
much
better
description
of
why
that
matters
than
I
could
I'm
I'm
talking
from
ignorance.
There
mostly.
E
E
E
And
then
election
status
report
olivier
sure,
so
I
closed
the
election
yesterday.
So
normally
everybody
should
be
able
to
watch
the
result.
The
detail
result
if
they
just
use
the
same
process
to
vote.
So
if
I
just
take
all
the
different
positions
because
most
of
the
position
we
only
had
one
candidate,
so
the
first
I
mean
on
my
list
is
the
board
members
so
mark
wait
and
oleg
and
nina
chef
won
the
board
member
addiction.
E
We
had
something
that
we
had
81
person
register
for
the
election
to
vote
and
53
or
54
something
like
that
effectively
voted
by
the
election.
So
so
that's
that's
the
correct
number.
Regarding
the
different
officers
we
have
the
documentation
and
which
is
the
first
one
in
my
list,
the
documentation
we
had
markweight
and
side
bus
to
boston
dust
who
were
underlying
so
mark
wait
won
the
documentation
officer
role
and
if
we
continue
for
the
other
officer
role,
we
only
had
one
candidate
so
so
bad.
I
can
follow.
You
won
the
security.
E
I
mean
he's
the
new
security
officer
on
the
infrastructure.
Damian
de
portal
was
the
only
one
candidate
so
who
is
efficient.
The
new
infrastructure
officer
for
the
event
officer
ali
saton
was
the
only
one
candidate,
so
she's
the
next
event
officer
and
the
release
officer.
We
only
had
one
candidate
whose
team
jacom,
so
he
will
continue
to
be
the
release
officer.
So
that's
that's,
but
the
election
updates.
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
organize
a
retrospective
about
what
happened
this
year
compared
to
last
year
and
the
year
before.
E
I
think
overall,
I'm
quite
happy
with
the
process,
but
yeah
we
always
have.
We
can
always
do
better
anyway.
So
now
the
the
next
question
is
what
we
do
with
the
two
groups
on
this
course
that
we
use
for
the
election.
So
one
is
election
committee,
so
during
the
election
we
only
had
gave
in
evening
and
me
so
we
many
use
that
group
to
discuss
about
ongoing
issues
and
yes
just
to
coordinate
during
the
election,
and
we
use
the
second
group,
which
is
jenkins
election
voters
yeah.
E
If,
if
we,
if
we
like,
if
we
are
interested
to
reuse
the
same
process
next
year,
we
have
to
decide
what
we
do
with
those
two
groups.
If
we
let
people
go
inside
or
not
samsung,
I
don't
have
strong
opinion.
I
mean
I
do
have
some
strong
opinion,
but
I'm
interested
to
hear
feedback
here.
D
Any
question:
no,
I
don't
know
if
I
don't
know
if
I
want
to
make
a
decision
right
now,
but
I
I
I'm
on
board
with
more
formalized
procedure.
I'm
also
wondering
if
maybe
we
want
to
nominate
someone
to
run
the
elections
earlier.
You
know
doing
it
middle
last
middle
of
this
year
with
only
two
months
away:
kind
of
put
a
little
bit
of
a
tight
deadline.
D
E
Yeah
that
that's
something
having
more
people
in
the
in
the
addiction
committee,
I
think,
would
be
nice.
So
the
way
we
did
this
year
was
we
had
the
two
bot
members
who
were
not
up
for
re-election
and
I
was
involved
in
the
process
because
I
was
not
interested
to
be
re-elected
as
an
ambassador
officer,
so
yeah.
I
did
this
initiative
this
year.
E
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
have
someone
just
from
the
outside
helping
with
the
election,
and
maybe
that's
something
that
we
can
start
earlier
than
two
months
before
the
election.
C
It
was
very
easy
to
communicate
and
it
took
me
some
time
to
figure
out
the
notifications,
but
but
but
then
it
was,
you
know
you
didn't
have
to
check
mails
and
if,
if
the
people
that
were
supposed
to
get
the
mails
got
them,
who
was
supposed
to
be
in
the
group,
had
access
to
the
group
and
well,
it
doesn't
really
matter
how
how
how
much
we
want
it
limited
or
open.
I
I
I
personally
think
that
the
the
discourse
worked
well
enough
for
communication.
A
B
Yeah
for
me,
the
most
present
question
for
the
next
lecture
is:
how
do
we
get
more
voters,
because
I
think
we
could
have
used
more
channels?
Well,
we
always
could
have
used
more
channels,
it's
always
a
limitation
of
time
and
etc.
B
E
I
mean,
if
you
have,
if
you
have
suggestions
about
communities
to
contact
yeah,
I
mean
that's
something
that
everybody
can
participate.
We
try
to
make
the
process
as
public
as
possible.
We
try
to
be
as
much
as
possible
transparent
on
the
process.
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
things
to
improve
one
of
them
that
surprised
me
when
I,
when
I,
when
I
in
the
first
blog
post,
I
explained
that
we
wouldn't,
we
would
be
very
open
about
the
kind
of
contribution
that
we
consider
are
acceptable
for
being
for
voting
for
addiction.
E
A
lot
of
people
contacted
me
to
double
check
if
they
were,
if
their
contribution
were
okay
and
and
yeah.
That's
that's
something
that
that
surprised
me
this
year,
yeah.
E
But
otherwise,
regarding
the
communication,
I've
been
involved
in
a
previous
edition
and
not
having
to
rely
on
the
emails
was
really
nice,
and
I
really
like
using
this
course
this
course
for
the
communication,
because
it
was
so
much
easier
just
to
draft
communication,
publish
them,
and
so
on
my
only
I
mean
my
only
disappointment,
I
would
say
in
the
process
this
year
I
mean
the
two
deeper
disappointment
to
main
disappointment
that
I
had
the
first
one
was
I
couldn't
anymore.
E
Do
I
guess
gdpr
I
couldn't
anymore
just
invite
all
the
pir
all
the
people
entering
the
election,
so
I
asked
everybody
to
to
validate
their
email
address
on
civs
platform.
That
was
one
of
the
things
so
the
process
there
was
a
little
bit
more
complicated.
I
mean
not
that
much,
because
five
minutes
was
enough,
but
yes
still
and
the
second
thing,
because
people
did
not
receive
the
invitation
on
their
email
address.
E
It
was
not
always
clear
for
the
different
people
which
email
address
to
use.
So
what
I
also
often
got
as
a
feedback
was
people
were
wondering
if
they
were
invited
for
the
election
and
because
they
were
not
using
the
correct
email
address
for
the
platform.
So
in
my
case
I
was
using
the
email
address
from
this
course.
D
And
I'm
sure
we
can,
we
can
come
with
more
things
in
a
retro.
I
don't
want
to
go
too
far
into
it.
Now.
Okay,
sure,
one
thing
I
when
we
were
looking
at
discourse
earlier,
one
thing
we
could
do
is
is
add
linkedin
logins,
because
I
think
there
are.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
who
would
be
considered
a
contributor
doesn't
have
a
github,
but
for
a
community.
Yes,
I
think
linked
linkedin
might
be
another
good
option.
B
E
B
E
C
That's
a
bit
early
because
when
you,
when
you
mentioned
all
like
that,
see
what
you
consider
a
present
question
is
how
to
unleash
more
voters.
I
was
trying
to
promote
it
in
my
social
media,
but
I
don't
have
great
following
and
and
where
we
actually
have.
A
lot
of
people
that
are
interested
in
jenkins
is
jenkins
booth
at
events,
and
if
we
had,
I
don't
know
a
qr
code
with
link
to
registration
page
for
voters,
something
that
you
know
is
as
easy
as
it
gets.
C
E
D
D
A
E
So
well,
I
have
one
last
question,
so
we
said
that
we
would
announce
the
results
on
friday,
but
the
results
are
kind
of
already
public.
So
should
we
write
a
blog
post
on
this?
We
should
do
it.
We
should
do
that.
D
Oh,
I
was
about
to
say
not
it
I
mean
I
I
can
I'm
very
bad
writer.
I
don't
like
writing,
so
I
bet
I
can.
If
no
one
else
is
up
for
it.
B
For
me,
it
felt
awkward
in
2019
to
write
a
announcement
blog
post.
So
that's
fine.
A
A
D
D
A
D
B
Great
will
do
okay,
I'm
not
sure
where
we
stand
on
budgets
for
schwa
et
cetera,
I
mean
so.
Alyssia
became
my
events
officer,
so
I
guess
going
forward.
She
will
be
taking
care
of
that.
D
A
C
But
we
did
talk
about
some
kind
of
environment
friendly
swag.
How
do
you
say
it
the
option?
So
you
could
have
like
a
voucher
to
plant
a
tree
or
something
like
that.
I'm
I'm!
I
didn't
really
research
that
I
don't
know
what
really
makes
sense,
but
I've
seen
people
bragging
on
twitter
that
they
chose
to
plant
a
tree
instead
of
socks
and
they
are.
They
are
happy
about
it.
B
How
we
can
do
it
on
our
own,
you
donate
contribute
and
one
of
governor's
board
members
plants
a
tree
and
records
it
on
the
video.
So.
A
D
Yeah
there
have
been.
I
assume
this
is
me
again.
There
hasn't
there
wasn't
a
lot
in
the
in
the
last
two
weeks.
I
think
I
suspect,
with
thanksgiving
everyone,
everyone's
just
focused
on
family
or
u.s
thanksgiving.
I.
A
D
Okay,
so
there's
no
actual
post
about
it
anywhere,
though,.
A
D
Yeah,
I
think
what
which
is
the
next
item.
I
think
what
I
tried
last
week,
where
I
put
the
government
meeting
notes
and
the
recording
on
the
community
site
worked
really
well.
I
didn't
look
at
the
metrics
to
see
how
many
people
are
viewing
it,
but
it's
pretty
public
and
clear
that
way,
so
I'm
thinking
longer
term
of
modeling
a
little
bit
more
like
so
matrix
has
a
this
week
in
matrix
or
this.
D
I
don't
think
we
want
to
do
every
week,
but
it
we
could
do
like
this
week
and
or
this
month
in
jenkins
and
show
the
various
sig
recordings
and
links
to
the
meeting
notes,
whatever
else
like
I'm
thinking
of
that
kind
of
idea
to
get
more
community
involvement,
because
I
think
right
now,
a
lot
of
the
things
are
all
isolated
in
their
little
thing
and
nobody
sees
them
unless
they
know
to
go
to
the
getter
channel.
So.
B
Well,
the
for
me,
one
of
the
questions
is
pipeline,
not
rank
because
we
haven't
removed
meetings
from
the
calendar,
but
as
far
as
can
tell
it's
completely
negative
at
the
moment,.
B
Well,
cloud
native
seek
is
an
active,
effective
camera
switched
to
cdf.
She
has
no
time.
I
currently
have
no
time.
D
B
Might
take
it
over
later
to
facilitate
cloud
events
and
open
telemetry
integrations,
but
no
commitment
at
the
moment.
D
Yeah,
so
if
we
start
to
start
switching
this
model
and
even
if
we
start
saying
okay,
you
know
once
a
month
every.
I
know
what
we
talked
about
in
the
past,
but
every
sig
leader
submits
a
blurb
to
add
to
a
little
post.
Then
we
can
actually
say
you
know.
There's
there
has
been
no
time
for
meetings.
Looking
for
a
new
author
or
that
kind
of
thing
you
know
the
more.
We
do,
that
kind
of
stuff,
a
little
bit
more
visible
becomes,
and
then
it
means
it
does
selfishly.
D
It
does
make
the
discourse
a
little
bit
less.
I
need
help
demand.
I
want
help
and
have
a
lot
more
other
discussions
as
well
kind
of
related.
I
also
changed
the
colors
for
the
categories
so
that
we
can
actually
see
when
it's
not
asking
for
help
it's
a
different
color
so,
but
not
really
a
highlight,
but
yeah.
B
D
But
yeah
so
yeah
that's
a
thing,
and
then
we
did
the
discussion
for
java.
8
has
sort
of
tapered
out,
but
they
there
was
some
really
good
discussions
on
the
mail
list
about
whether
or
not
java
8
or
drive
11..
D
I
think
I
I
personally
agree
that
the
reasoning
for
switching
should
not
be
based
on
who's
using
it,
but
the
desire
to
upgrade
and
use
it,
because
people
will
just
stay
with
the
old
version
as
long
as
possible
and,
as
I
pointed
out
to
mark
this
week,
we
actually
had
someone
on
reddit
ask
how
to
upgrade
from
one
what
was
the
one
six
one,
six
hundred
to
two
thirty
or
two
three
hundred
so
six
years
of
jenkins
updates,
because
they
hadn't
got
around
to
updating
until
they
just
died.
B
D
D
From
centos
4
to
red
hat
8
or
whatever,
and
that's
what
made
them
do
the
upgrade
and
you're
like
wow
wow,
I
mean
not
a
bad
idea,
just
wow,
that's
impressive,
just
running
family
forever,
but
yeah.
That's
my
update.
B
Yeah,
so
just
fresh
news,
cd
events
has
been
officially
accepted
to
the
continuous
delivery
foundation
as
incompleting
project,
so
what
it
means
for
us
as
the
jinx
community.
This
summer
we
had
a
google
summer
of
code
project
targeting
integration
with
cloud
events,
and
there
were
some
discussions
about
actually
following
the
format
of
cd
events
and
when
the
student
was
working
on
this
project.
B
Some
initial
specification
was
followed,
but
this
specification
has
changed
since
that,
so
jenkins
is
welcome
to
be
one
of
the
first
adopters
for
cd
events,
and
probably
we
should
consider
that.
But
if
you
do
so,
we
will
need
some
updates
in
the
plugin.
B
Sources
is
a
specification
for
continuous
integration
and
continuously
delivery
events,
and
this
specification
is
based
on
the
top
of
cloud
events.
Okay,
so
cloud
events
is
a
kind
of
unified
vendor
format
and
cd
events
is
just
a
specification
for
how
you
describe
various
events
like
build
past,
etc.
B
It
can,
it
can
be
followed
by
multiple
ci
and
cd
systems.
B
So
yeah,
basically
knowing
me
detection,
I
might
return
back
to
that
because
yeah
personally
I
have
interest
cd
events
can
be
rooted
in
the
captain
because
captain
my
open
source
project
at
work,
it's
based
on
cd
events,
sorry
on
cloud
events
and
actually
dynamic-
has
been
one
of
contributors
to
this
game
and
specification.
B
Still,
it's
quite
good
that
we
get
such
standardization
happening
in
the
continuous
delivery
foundation,
and
currently
we
have
around
12
entities
open
source
projects
and
companies
that
declare
the
intent
to
adopt
city
events.
B
D
I
mean,
I
guess
technically,
we
do
have
a
cd,
but
not
really.
D
A
B
The
so
yeah
currently
icd
event
seek
is
basically
a
bootstrap
for
his
demands
project
so
how
it
happens.
Currently,
sikh
governance
basically
implements
the
project
governance,
it's
about
changing
in
the
future,
but
let's
see
how
it
goes.
B
So,
if
you're
interested
just
john
events,
special
interest
group
meeting,
actually
the
two
work
streams
right
now,
the
first
is
vocabulary,
and
secondly,
it's
city
events.
B
Yeah,
so
just
a
quick
update,
most
likely,
it
will
happen
at
least
there's
no
signs
that
it
won't
and
if
it
happens,
yeah
the
application
decline
for
organization
will
be
in
the
beginning
of
february.
B
So
the
question
is
whether
we
participate.
If
so,
who
would
lead
that
because
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
whether
I
will
be
taking
a
or
called
mean
if
we
participate
a
cdf,
because,
let's
say
two
years
in
a
row,
I
have
pretty
bad
experience
with
that.
I
would
be
orcadmin
if
it
was
jenkins
project
applying
separately,
but
for
gdf
I'm
not
ready
to
commit
right
now
so
yeah
and
basically
hence
the
question
yeah.
So
I've,
of
course,
do
we
want
to
apply
so
who
will
be.
A
Driving
that
I
very
much
want
to
have
a
supply,
and
I've
got
a
person
in
mind
that
I've
been
discussing
with
as
a
potential
lead
for
it,
so
basically
trying
to
follow
the
guidance
that
oleg
you've
shown
in
the
past
on
how
to
be
an
effective,
org
admin
and
take
it
from
there.
I
I
think
fitting
under
cdf
is
still
good,
rather
than
being
separate
jenkins
project
but
open
to
consider
either.
In
this
case,
this
person
has
expressed
interest
and
we're
preparing
them
right
now
to
be
ready
to
get
involved.
A
B
Yes,
this
year
they
went
to
the
continuous
delivery
foundation
and
what
we
discussed
with
you
and
kara
that
we
need
to
submit
a
request
to
get
sure
to
make
sure
it
gets
transferred
to
jenkins,
because
when
we
decide
to
do
sponsorship
for
students
when
everything
reopens,
then
we
would
definitely
use
this
money
right.
Okay,.
A
B
A
E
E
No
because
we
just
heard
about
the
news
yesterday
before
so
it's
yeah.
So
now
you
start
to
see
proposal
announced
on
the
first
time
mailing
list.
So
you
have
something
like
five
or
six
step
room,
but
at
least
on
the
c
I
see
the
room.
We
still
have
to
turn
on
something.
E
B
Since
we
are
talking
about
fosdum,
do
we
want
to
have
a
jenkins
stand
this
year?
Because
I'm
not
sure
what's
your
perception
from
the
previous
year,
whether
it's
sufficient
to
invest
time
on
that.
E
B
E
So
the
first
thing
is
I
would,
I
would
not
organize
an
online
event
during
the
first
time
I
mean
during
saturday
or
sunday,
because
people
will
be
busy
with
other
stuff
if
they
are
interested
to
attend
the
first
time
online,
because
first
them
will
be
online
as
well
this
year.
I
think
I
would
be
more
interested
by
a
small
contributor
submit
around
for
them,
like
we
did
last
year
or
the
year
before,
but
otherwise.
Yeah
virtual
booth
is
not
something
very
popular.
Whatever
the
conference.
A
Sorry
talking
doesn't
help
with
that
without
a
microphone
post,
we'll,
let's
call
it
done,
then
we'll
post,
the
recording
in
24
hours
or
less.
E
Up
online,
all
right,
while
you're
mentioning
the
notes,
could
we
use
the
same
tag
everywhere,
because
I
really
like
I
mean
what
you
put
in
place
during
the
last
governance
meeting.
But
it's
not
really
easy
to
to
find
all
the
meeting
notes
right
now
in
this
course.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
could
just
use
something
like.