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C
A
A
In
addition,
we've
got
the
next
baseline
selected.
2.361.1
will
be
released
september.
The
7th
it
will
require
java,
11
or
java
17..
No
more
java,
8
support,
thanks
to
chris
stern,
as
the
release
lead.
Chris
is
a
google
summer
of
code
mentor
who
is
being
actively
involved
in
other
areas.
This
is
his
first
opportunity
as
a
release
lead
for
a
jenkins
release.
A
A
Okay,
I
see
a
shake
of
head,
no,
so
we'll
leave
it
as
is
for
now,
and
if
there's
a
topic
you
can
message
us
in
the
chat
great.
Thank
you
all
right,
then
open
action
items
we've
got
one
that
I
actually
completed
the
blog
post
for
she
code.
Africa
is
done
now
the
others
I
haven't
completed,
and
it's
going
to
be
several
weeks
still
before
I
get
to
them.
Gavin
we
did
have
one
for
you
on
create
a
funding
proposal
for
the
blue
ocean
admonition,
but
I
think
we're
settled
with
that.
Already.
A
B
D
C
B
B
I
think
the
existing
improvements
to
the
jenkins
I
o
pages
are
definitely
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
You
know
if
I
had
my
way
I'd
rip
the
entire
thing
out.
I
don't
I
want
it
gone,
but
I
think
what
is
there
is
probably
better
or
closer
to
good
enough
for
now,
but
I
do
think
based
on
the
fact
that
we
have
money,
I
mean
that
we
never
spend
and
it
is
a
it's
never
going
to
be
handled
by
volunteers,
because
it's
so
big.
A
B
A
B
All
right,
while
we're
covering
things
I
might
have
missed,
was
there
wasn't
there
action
item
for
algolia
as
well.
A
They're
not
in
this
meetings
notes,
but
we
can
certainly
put
it
there.
It
is.
A
D
B
A
B
D
A
B
D
A
A
D
That
was
my
next
point.
I
don't
think
that
it
was
intentional
to
emit
this
from
the
plug-in
docs,
but
if,
if,
if,
if
no
one
is
against
adding
it
there
as
well,
I
would
like
to
take
the
action
item
to
put
this
admonition
on
the
plugin
site
as
well
the
same
text
as
you
just
showed
me.
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A
C
B
Yeah,
just
for
a
bit
of
context,
while
mark
is
typing,
there
was
a
couple
of
threads
about
people
having
trouble
with
the
ocean,
especially
after
the
last
update,
and
I
reached
out
to
mark
and
say
hey:
do
you
think
it's
worth
me
writing
up
a
proposal
which
then
triggered
all
these
discussions,
but
really
just
I
was.
I
was
frustrated
that
the
answer
to
most
of
the
time
when
people
are
like
I'm
having
trouble
with
blue
ocean
is
don't
use
blue
ocean,
it's
not
being
maintained
they're
like
well.
B
A
B
Whether
or
not
there's
new
functionality
or
not
it's
that
flat
line,
if
it's
not
maintained,
I
should
I
don't
think
we
should
suggest
people
using
it
so
anyways,
but
that's
another
discussion
for
another
day
right.
The
point
was
that
this
will
help
a
lot
in
those
those
support
requests.
When
people
come
in
and
say
hey,
this
isn't
working
we're
like
yeah,
unfortunately
you're
in
a
weird
place.
These
are
your
suggested
alternatives
and
we
can
leave
it
at
that
for
now
agreed.
A
Yeah,
so
so
the
we
had
long
ago
on
this
on
the
docker
hub
entry
we
had
long
ago
shifted
the
jenkins
documentation
to
not
refer
to
this
blue
ocean
image.
But
that
doesn't
mean
people
don't
still
have
references
to
that
image.
They
do
and
so
needs
a
link
to
the
official
docs.
A
And
the
include
the
embed,
the
admonition.
A
A
Okay,
next,
then,
was
cdf
topics
so
gavin,
and
I
were,
I
think
it
was
gavin
and
I
were
involved
in
a
conference.
Oh
no
tim
jacom
and
I
were
involved
in
a
conversation
with
fati
about
a
possible
blog
post,
highlighting
the
contents
of
the
next
lts
baseline,
and
so
I
took
the
action
item
that
the
docsig
will
provide
a
highlights.
Blog
post.
A
D
D
A
So
then,
oleg
you
had
added
the
cdf
technical
oversight
committee
and
technical
oversight.
Committee
chair
elections
was.
C
Yeah
so
just
quick
update,
we
officially
extended
the
terms
of
project
resp
representatives
to
two
years,
so
we
reached
out
to
other
projects
not
represented
on
the
qvc.
Nobody
was
against,
so
it
means
that
I
will
stay
here
jenkins
representative
there
for
the
next
year,
unless
there
is
a
desire
to
change
this
representative.
C
Another
thing
that
yeah
we
also
had
to
see
chair
elections,
so
I
will
also
remind
an
etfc
chair
for
the
next
year,
so
it's
just
for
your
information.
What
it
means
that
I
will
be
representing
jenkins,
etc
on
the
ctf
governing
board,
where
we
talk
about
topics
like
infrastructure
budgets,
kind
of
reminder
to
you
mark
that
the
cloud
business
representative
doesn't
participate
so
right
now,
it's
me
kind
of
changing
the
cloud
piece
as
well,
but
I'm
not
employed
by
the
company.
A
Thanks
thanks
for
the
reminder,
I've
got
it
on
my
board
to
do
and
I'll
I'll
certainly
talk
with
him
to
see.
If
we
want
to
make
a
switch,
would
you
have
any
objection
if
or
are
there
any
bylaws
things
that
I
need
to
be
worried
about?
If
I
were
to
propose
that
I
take
that
position
instead
of
instead
of
the
current,
the
digital
for
your
company?
A
C
So
for
the
governing
board
generally,
there
is
not
that
much
happening
right
now.
There
is
a
bunch
of
discussions.
There
will
be
a
mini
summit
in
september
with
assumption
that
some
people
will
come
there,
but
yeah.
C
So
fatty
has
sent
out
the
call
for
papers
for
that,
I'm
not
sure
whether
we
picked
up
with
them
enjoying
the
social
media,
but
yeah
most.
So
it's
still
open.
I
believe.
C
Okay,
so
what
else
do
you
have?
C
So
we
are
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
that
project
person
was
accepted
to
the
canadian
delivery
foundation.
Again
it
was
official
since
the
last
week,
project
percy
is
distributed.
Budget
package
delivered
network
with
major
contributors,
jfrog
deploy
hub,
canonical
and
several
other
companies.
D
C
C
Yeah,
so
the
idea
is
quite
simple:
they
want
to
generalize,
basically
the
protocols
et
cetera,
to
build
the
kind
of
cdm
for
artifacts
and
I
believe
that
jfrock
etc
have
clear
interest
in
having
enterprise
implementations
for
that
sample,
docker,
okay,
so
one
thing
so
above
there
is
action
item
for
you
mark
about
migrating
trooper,
so
good
news
that
you
can
pause
the
section
item
for
now,
because
now
there
are
second
thoughts
about
the
adopted
by
the
indications
delivery
foundation.
C
Well,
we
will
kindly
ask
to
post
in
other
activities,
because,
right
now
the
continuous
ledger
foundation
is
not
sure
it
will
pluck
elongate
at
the
very
contrary,
great
good,
to
know.
Thank
you
because
yeah.
If
we
switch
to
enterprise
story
from
baby,
it
will
be
more
expensive
than
zoom
and
meetup.com
combined.
A
B
C
So
the
idea
was
that,
since
we
have
everything
enabled
for
easy
silly,
just
adobe
documentation,
we
think
that
we
are
still
waiting
for
cloudbees
and
others
to
submit
the
easy
cla
hello
mark.
So
I
didn't
hire
with
that
and
basically
it
was
long.
B
Well,
we
had
two
new
clas
come
in
this
week,
which
I
mean
it
happens
like
once
or
twice
a
year
and
as
far
as
someone
told
me,
the
thing
is
just
to
prove
them,
but
I
can't
validate
them.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
process
is
documented
that
I'm
just
going
to
approve
them
when
they
look
fine
to
me.
But
I
I
don't
know.
C
So
yeah,
I
think
that
you
can
just
approve
for
now,
because
for
me,
just
the
fact
of
coming
is
enough
to
be
honest.
Okay,
but
yeah
understand
that,
legally
speaking,
it's
not
something
you
would
like
what
whatever.
B
C
I
have
a
key
for
that
olivia
officer,
I'm
not
sure
whether
it
was
transferred
to
diamond.
B
C
B
A
Yeah
no
problem
so
jenkins.io
website
gavin
is
this
about
the
the
ui
of
the
look
and
feel
change
or
something
different.
B
Yeah,
just
because
there's
a
bit
of
debate-
and
I
figure
it's
gonna-
get
really
heated
really
quickly.
So
there's
a
could
not
correct
me
when
I'm
wrong
here,
but
there
was
a
new
pr
a
couple
weeks
ago
it
was
merged
last
week
that
adds
some
new
skinning
to
the
website.
So
it's
you
know
a
bit
more
white
space,
a
bit
more
clear
click,
clarity,
a
new
background.
That
kind
of
thing
the
new
the
front
page
does
look
really
nice.
B
B
I
know
daniel
has
specifically
requested
that
it
gets
rolled
back
until
the
things
are
fixed,
because
the
fact
is
that
we're
only
fixing
things
like
once
a
week,
one
small
thing
once
a
week
and
it
kind
of
makes
a
mess,
and
normally,
I
would
say,
government
the
government
governance
doesn't
need
to
get
involved
in
these
kind
of
things.
B
But
since
it's
like
enough,
it
affects
a
number
of
sites
and
a
number
of
pages
and
it's
not
being
repaired
in
a
pretty
rapid
way.
To
me,
it
has
a
lot
of
the
concerns
about
it
being
going
stale
and
not
being
fixed
and
we're
in
a
broken
state
and
considering
I
spent
the
last
like
three
years
trying
to
clean
up
all
these
failed
unfinished
projects,
I'm
actually
slightly
thinking.
We
should
go
with
daniel's
thing
and
say
revert
until
it
can
be
fixed
properly.
A
And-
and
so
you
highlighted
it
very
nicely,
the
one
of
my
my
initial
response
was:
oh
no,
I
don't
want
to
revert,
but
the
more
I
looked
at
it
and
after
discussing
in
doc's
office
hours,
asia.
Last
week
I
came
back
to
the
oh.
No
maybe
we
should
revert
just
because
it's
it's
it's
a
bigger
change
than
we
may
have
been
ready
to
take
on
and
the
river.
B
Is
clean
now,
if
all
the
issues
were
fixed
in
a
day
or
two,
I
would
have
been
like
yeah,
let's
just
roll
forward,
but
it's
now
been
a
week.
You
know
we're
getting
like
one
fix
in
one
week
to
fix
one
issue
it
like.
I
said
it
makes
me
concerned
that
it's
going
to
be
like
six
months
from
now
and
we're
not
going
to
finish
this
upgrade
and
I
don't
think
it's
an
upgrade
until
it's
finished.
A
B
Yeah,
so
I'm
not
like,
I
said,
I'm
not
really
sure
it's
a
governance
thing,
but
it
is,
I
can
feel
it
getting
heated
and
I
think
it
would
be
worth
discussing.
A
D
For
me,
I
think
it's
it's
it's
just
hearing
gavin's
point
of
view
and
seeing
like
the
issues
that
have
come
up
and
stuff
having
some
time
to
reflect,
I
I
definitely
see
the
value
in
reverting
it
and
kind
of
small
steps
that
become
more
effective
over
time,
as
opposed
to
the
size
of
this
change.
That
wasn't
really,
I
I
wasn't
aware
of
it.
At
least
since
I
didn't
have
any
visibility
into
it,
but
yeah
I
can
see.
I
can
see
the
value
in
reverting
instead
of
like
really
pushing
this
one.
A
Okay,
so
then
I'm
gonna-
I-
and
I
I
think
in
this
case
to
gavin's-
doesn't
need
to
go
to
governance.
I'm
going
to
kick
in
my
I'm
the
docs
officer
and
therefore
I
think
I
get
to
arbitrate
this
one,
I'm
going
to
say
yes,
we're
going
to
revert
and
try
to
bring
it
forward
as
a
series
of
of
small
changes
later
yeah.
A
Great
thanks,
okay,
any
objections
or
or
feeling
that
this
is
that
I'm
out
of
line
taking
that
approach.
A
Why
me
well
or
whoever
is
it
oleg
you
had
put
it
on
the
topic,
the
question
was:
was
there
something
specific
or
or
that
you
would
like.
A
A
B
I'm
muted
I'm
gonna
go
dig
because
I
forgot
to
pull
up
them.
There's
three
topics,
though,
that
I
didn't
add,
so
we
can
talk
about
those
for
now.
A
that
had
a
firewall
configured
to
only
allow
java
8
through
the
firewall
and
windows.
Firewall
is
apparently
sophisticated
enough
to
allow
you
to
lock
firewall
transition
for
specific
applications
and
because
the
application
was
configured
to
only
allow
java
8
through
the
firewall
when
they
switched
to
java
11.
Their
controller
couldn't
connect
to
their
agents
anymore,
and
it's
like
that
was
a
very
novel,
novel
condition
that
I've
never
never
considered
like
wow.
But
once
that
was
resolved,
they
seemed
to
get
it
settled
and
worked
through.
B
A
It
could
be
yes
and
that
I'm
not
sure
of
it,
so
they
there
were,
they
had,
they
did
have
a
32-bit,
they
mentioned
a
32-bit
java,
11
agent,
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
was
a
required
or
a.
B
A
Good,
okay,
great
so
for
me
it
was
a.
It
was
a
good
story
to
see
hey.
There
are
some
subtleties
in
this
java
11
transition
that
are
not
actually
java
11
but
they're.
Just
any
transition
have
they
gone
to
java.
17
they'd
have
had
the
same
same
challenge,
had
they
all
sorts
of
potential
issues.
There
then
we've
had
two
two
surprises
in
the
plug-in
world.
A
We
released
a
host
key
verification
fix
and
it
relied
on
open
ssh
version
7.6
and
newer.
Unfortunately,
centos
7
and
aws
linux
2
both
deliver
centos
or
both
deliver
open,
ssh
7.4,
which
is
too
old
for
what
the
option
these
things
needed.
So
we
switched
the
some
configuration
shipped,
a
new
version
of
the
plug-in
and
think
we've
got
it
resolved
and
then
the
tri-lead
api
plug-in
inadvertently
shipped
java
11
class
files
without
declaring
a
dependency
on
a
jenkins
version
that
mandated
java
11..
A
So
it's
been
blocked
from
the
update
center,
but
there's
still
some
some
noise
and
if
you
look
at
the
at
the
issue,
that's
linked
here
you'll
see
the
kind
of
noise
that's
happening
just
by
counting
the
number
of
duplicates
that
gives
us
the
first
hint
that
yeah
this
one
generated
a
lot
of
oh
wow
ouch,
and
it
highlights
that
we
still
got
many
users
who
run
java
8.
We
need
to
keep
banging
on
the
drum
to
remind
people
that
they
should
upgrade
to
java
11.
A
B
Yeah
sure
there's
a
actually,
I
don't
remember
a
lot
about
it,
but
there
was.
I
think
this
was
a
licensing
one
yeah,
so
daniel
backflight,
a
plug-in
that
was
using
the
wrong
a
non-open
source
license.
According
to
our
agreements,
we
don't
host
plugins
that
don't
have
open
source
license.
I
think
this
is
the
case
of
a
plug-in
using
a
library
that
doesn't
have
it
not
the
plugin
itself,
so
he
submitted
a
pr
to
suspend
it.
B
We
hadn't
heard
anything
back
in
a
week
two
weeks,
two
weeks
now
I
think
so
we
suspended
it
last
week
great.
I
think
it's
a
fairly
new
plug-in
too.
So
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
affect
all
the
users,
but
there's
also
my
ongoing
attempt
to
get
a
vendors
portal
running,
not
much
progress
from
the
last
time,
just
poking
around
trying
out
a
few
things.
That
kind
of
thing
there's
a
couple
of
all
threads
that
are
being
brought
brought
back
to
life,
but
didn't
really
go
anywhere.
B
So
there
is
a
thread
on
the
forums
about
a
complete
jenkins
tutorial.
I
moved
it
to
the
showing
off
category,
so
people
can
find
it
easier.
B
There
was
a
thread
about,
I
think
mark
followed
up
on
it,
but
how
plugins
are
verified
that
they're,
not
security
holes,
which
I
think
is
something
that
we
could
potentially
document
better.
Mostly
it's
at
your
own
risk,
but
it
might
be
better
to
have
an
official
sounding
page
and
then
there
is
a
discussion
about
communication
channels.
I'm
focusing
on
that
side.
I'm
focusing
on
the
actual,
like
live
chat
channels,
so
I've
been
trying
to
see
if
I
can
get
one
channel
that
has
irc
getter
and
matrix
all
in
the
same
room.
B
Oh,
I
guess
the
only
other
thing
more
of
an
action
item
every
once,
while
there's
plugin
development
type
questions
on
the
forums.
Is
there
interest
in
me
making
it
or
trying
to
see
if
it
can
auto
email
the
email
list,
or
should
I
just
email,
the
mailing
list
and
say
hey?
We
probably
need
more
hands
here.
B
Yeah
so
right
now,
when
you
post
something
to
like
the
sig
docs
tag
in
on
discourse,
it
puts
it
in
the
sig
docs
getter
room,
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
want
to
do
the
same
thing
for
any
code
related
things.
B
D
A
B
Go
ahead.
Excuse
me,
I
kind
of
worried
about
being
automatic,
because
I
think
people
will
start
asking
tech
questions
to
the
dev
list.
That
way.
But
so
far
it's
been
pretty
good.
People
haven't
been
using
the
code
category
without
it
actually
being
contributing
related,
but.
A
D
B
Press
wise,
I'm
wondering
if
we
want
to
make
the
press.
Oh,
I
get
a
lot
of
spam
on
the
press,
email
which
is,
which
is
fine.
It's
kind
of
the
only
only
real
email
on
the
jenkins
site,
which
is
fine,
but
it's
ongoing
of,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
the
press.
Contacts
are
not
really
engaged
with
the
project
anymore,
so
it's
like
kk
and
r
tyler
and
someone
else
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
just
want
to
redirect
all
those
press
inquiries
to
the
board
and
leave
it
like
that.
B
The
only
real
non-spam-
because
mostly
it's
just
like
do
we
want
it
to
spam,
about
posting
blog
articles
for
money
or
getting
money
or
being
paid
money.
Something
like
that.
The
only
the
one
only
one
recently
that
came
to
the
press,
that
was
useful,
was
postman,
which
was
really
more
of
an
advocacy
partnership,
one
which,
to
me
makes
more
sense
to
the
board
discussion
as
as
opposed
to
me
as
individual,
or
maybe
we
can
have
our
advocacy,
take
over
press
email.
We
just
have
a
google
group
or
something.
B
I
don't
know
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
I
tried
to
see
if
we
can
get
that
directly
imported
into
the
forms,
but
I
had
trouble
because
we
don't
have
incoming
email
support
for
jenkins.io
domains.
B
A
A
B
A
Yeah-
and
I
do
something
similar
with
the
spam
that
arrives
to
the
board-
usually
those
are
commercial,
commercial
engagement,
attempts
trying
to
ask
us
to
buy
something
in
usually
an
asian
language.
Oddly
enough-
and
I
don't
even
bother
to
translate
them,
I
just
delete
them
all
right,
any
any
other
topics
we
need
to
discuss
today.