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A
Okay,
hi
all
welcome
to
the
jenkins
governance
meeting
today
is
february
10th
and
we
have
a
few
topics
in
the
agenda.
So
there
were
a
few
recent
releases
and
one
key
highlighted
that
we
updated
the
docker
images.
So
now
they
are
based
on
a
debian
10
buster
instead
of
previous
stress
images,
and
there
are
some
breaking
changes
due
to
that,
so
mark
could
expand
it
more
because
yeah
by
the
way,
thanks
mark
to
mark
for
the
blog
post.
A
A
A
So
yeah
in
this
lcs,
I
don't
think
we
have
anything
particularly
important,
though
there
are
some
minor
improvements
and
the
most
important
thing,
the
next
lcs
baseline,
which
will
be
based
on
2.777,
so
release
candidate
is
coming
soon
and
basically
this
case
will
integrate
all
breaking
changes
and
major
update.
We
will
be
discussing
with
before
so
it's
stable
studies,
it's
the
extreme
on
4k,
it's
a
jquery
replacement
and
also
zillions
of
smaller
things
here,
and
there.
A
B
And
on
that
note,
because
people
have
been
testing
weeklies,
a
lot
of
people
aren't
updating
their
plug-ins
when
they
update
their
their
main
installs,
and
that
usually
is
a
cause
for
these
issues.
So
you
know,
update
your
plugins.
At
the
same
time,.
A
In
this
case,
update
will
be
necessary
and
they
think
that
many
plugin
versions
are
not
compatible
with
the
previous
vocals
baseline,
so
it
will
be
a
two-stage
process.
If
you
want
to
upgrade
so
you
just
upgrade
jenkins
core,
then
you
upgrade
plugins
and
still
there
is
a
number
of
plugins
which
will
likely
require
fixes.
A
So,
regarding
major
plugins,
so
we
have
a
few
ones
which
are
likely
to
be
affected,
for
example,
authorized
project
plugin,
because
there
are
many
users
of
it
and
there
are
more
plugins,
but
yeah.
The
most
of
major
ones
have
been
actually
updated
over
the
past
months.
A
I
pressed
the
query,
so
we
have
four
weeks
until
the
next
release.
So
definitely
we
could
use
this
time
to
clean
up
the
regressions
and
just
otherwise
release
more
if
possible.
A
C
Yeah,
so
a
retrospective
document
has
been
started
in
the
fosdem
assignment
sheet
that
a
list
has
collected.
People
are
encouraged
to
include
comments
there.
I
was
very
impressed
with
the
technology
we
had
relatively
low
traffic
at
the
jenkins
stand.
Oleg
and
I
had
a
very
good
session
diagnosing
with
a
phd
candidate
from
germany.
C
If
I
remember
right
who
was
having
some
interesting
challenges
doing
development,
but
it
was
a
one-on-one
experience
much
more
than
the
the
jenkins
stand,
that
fosdem
in
the
past
had
lots
of
walk
by
traffic
and
lots
of
people
that
interacted
with
us.
This
one
was
much
much
quieter
in
terms
of
interactions.
C
D
So
I
think
oli
was
also
was
also
a
stat
stand
volunteer.
I
would
love
to
get
your
feedback
on
that
too.
E
E
Nobody
else
is
here,
no
presentation
is
here
and
then
they
went
away
so,
okay,
I
don't
know
what
we
can
do
to
attract
more
people,
but
I
think
what
mark
already
said.
Maybe
if
we
have
more
presentations
with
schedules,
it
would
make
more
sense
yeah
because
I
don't
know
so
virtually
it's
a
little
bit
different
to
step
by
it.
So
you
don't.
E
People,
so
you
need
to
go
to
these
chitsy,
which
nobody,
some
people
came
only
to
chat
but
actually
understand.
I
was
not
sure
who
is
actually
registered
in
the
chat,
so
you
don't
see
who
is
there
so.
E
In
the
stand
you
see:
okay,
there
are
10
people
around
and
you
can
say
hello
from
my
side,
but
in
the
chat
it's
a
little
bit
passive.
So
I
think
we
have
70
people
in
the
chat,
but
these
were
all
the
people
that
have
been
registered,
but
not
where
available.
So
there
is
no
peep
if
someone
new
is
being
coming
in
and
this
was
a
little
bit
hard
to
recognize
if
we
have
new
people
here
or
so
I
I
did
not
do
any
presentation,
because
nobody
was
there.
So
I
offered,
but
nobody
responded
so.
D
Yeah
no,
this
is
this
is
good
feedback,
because
I
I
think
I'd
like
to
circle
back
to
the
organizers
and
see
what
was
the
feedback
from
the
other
other
stands,
because
this
is
the
first
time
that
we're
actually
doing
this
virtual
and
I
mean
most
in
previous
years,
people
come
to
our
stand
for
the
stickers
and
iron
t-shirts
and
and
and
just
to
just
just
have
a
casual
chat.
D
So
this
was
quite
different
this
year
and-
and
I
also
like
the
idea
of
possibly
adding
our
presentations,
our
demo
to
me-
possibly
the
main
schedule,
because
I
think
that
was
that
was
not.
That
was
not
done.
I
mean
we,
we
had
our
schedule
on
our
page,
but
it
wasn't
on
the
main
schedule.
So
that
might
help
next
time.
A
You
could
have.
You
could
have
also
posted
the
presentations
as
drinks
online
meetup,
specifically
so
that
we
could
drive
traffic
from
our
platform
to
foster.
B
I
do
know
there
was
some
confusion
between
the
two
video
streams
as
well,
because
there
was
the
conference
widget
and
then
there
was
like
a
one-on-one
chat,
widget
and
I
had
at
least
a
couple.
People
private
messaging
me-
and
I
don't
know
why.
But
probably
messaged
me
about
the
conference-
widget
not
working,
but
I
think
we
just
didn't
have
any
content
going
at
the
time.
C
I
and
I
had
heard
from
olivier
that
it
was
in
general,
not
working,
so
so
that's
not
a
that
was
a
one
of
the
flaws
there,
but
it
was
relatively
minor
flaw
in
that
they
knew
that
the
conference
thing
in
order.
Instead,
we
had
to
use
jitsi,
and
that
is
somewhat
of
a
barrier
you
had
to
join
the
jitsi
need.
B
Yeah
and
when
you
do
join
it
it,
it
drops
you
in
video,
chat
right
away,
so
there's
no
like
listening
or
looking
or
lurking
before
you
join
in
which
at
eleven
one
am
for
me,
was
a
little
bit
not
the
best
time
to
join
our
video.
B
A
A
Yeah
and
since
there
is
no
skill
this
year,
basically
the
same
contra,
the
next
big
conference
for
us
is
cdcon
from
what
I
understand.
D
A
Well,
maybe
there
will
be
something
before,
but
I'm
not
sure
I
guess
we
won't
have
a
stand
at
cubecon.
Will
we
because
continuously
foundation,
like
the
sponsors,
cubecon.
D
Yeah
yeah
probably
see
I
think
cdf
will
be
there,
but
I'm
not
100
sure.
If
anything
we
will
be
part
of
cdf,
but
we
won't
do
like
a
standalone
jenkins.
D
Since
we're
talking
about
events,
can
I
also
add
in
here
about
devops
worlds
when
we're
ready?
I
have
some
information
on
that.
D
So
devops
world
is
going
to
be
september
29th
and
30th
this
year.
There's
a
workshop
on
the
28th
workshop
day
in
the
28th.
D
We
have
a
community
track
that
has
about
20
24
sessions
that
we
are
we're
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
community
sessions
for
and
cdf
will
have
its
own
track
as
well.
D
So
I
am
going
to
be
starting
a
a
cd,
a
cfp
committee
to
to
work
with
me
on
the
the
submissions
for
the
community
track.
E
And
what
are
the
topics
for
the
community
tracks?.
D
I
mean
like
we
well
culture,
how
are
what
are
people
doing
with
regards
to
jenkins
and
yeah?
You
know
open
source,
how
are
people
growing
the
community,
so
all
things
community
and
all
things
open
source.
D
Basically,
but
I
think
the
theme
of
the
conference-
and
this
isn't
yet
really
confirmed,
but
it's
about
it's
building
the
future
of
software
delivery.
D
Yeah,
let's
let's
talk
about
it
and
let
and
then
we
can
see
what
the
needs
are.
C
So
for
for
everyone's
information,
the
contributor
summit
proposal
is
in
the
email.
The
idea
is
february:
23
through
25
we'll
have
an
online
series
of
sessions.
C
Olivier
verneen
is
actually
interested
in
possibly
facilitating,
possibly
using
the
same
technology
stack
as
was
used
for
fosdem
for
this.
For
this
exercise,
I'm
more
worried
right
now
about
how
do
we
do
the
registration
process?
How
do
we
assure
that
we
get
people's
interests
and
that
they
understand
which
tracks
might
be
happening,
etc?
So
I'll
start
I'll
continue
actively
sending
emails
through
the
rest
of
this
week?
The
idea
being
that
that,
by
the
end
of
this
week,
people
should
know
and
be
repeatedly
hearing.
This
thing
is
going
to
happen.
C
My
my
tendency
right
now
is
to
just
use
an
online
google
sheet
to
allow
people
to
register
they
put
their
name
in
it,
and
we
use
that.
I
could
consider
other
techniques
like
sign
up
genius
or
you
choose
it,
but
I
was
just
looking
for
something
simple
and
easy.
B
Yes,
okay,
I
mean
I'd
rather
deform
than
sheets.
Just
because
sheets
will
leak
information.
A
C
C
That's
what
that's
what
he
was
thinking
is
actually
running
the
matrix
setup
and
and
for
me
it
was
an
interesting
idea
of
hey
if
we
wanted
to
do
a
first,
a
sort
of
first
first
class
experiment
of
trying
a
different
way
of
communicating
with
each
other.
The
matrix
setup
they
used
would
be
very
interesting
and
he
was
interested
in
it
I'll
check
with
him
early
next
week
to
see
if
his
interest
is
still
there
at
minimum.
We'll
use.
Will
you
zoom
and
do
it
the
way?
The
way
I'm
accustomed
to
doing.
A
B
Yeah,
okay,
the
only
concern
there
is
so
fosdem
is
was
running
their
own
matrix
setup,
so
they
had
everything
hosted
on
their
their
servers,
their
home
servers.
I
don't
know
if
you
would
want
to
do
the
same
for
jenkins,
but
then
you'd
have
to
decide
if
we
want
to
have
like
another
set
of
credentials.
D
C
Right
and
and
and
that's
where
I'm
I'm
sort
of
delegating
or
leaving
that
to
olivier
my
fallback
position,
is
to
assume
that
will
you
zoom
and
if
olivier,
proves
that
hey
we've
got
this
other
thing
that
could
work,
I'm
open
to
it.
Good
good,
good
question,
though
gavin
excellent
question.
I.
E
A
Right,
so,
regarding
the
contributor
summit,
do
we
already
have
all
tracks
in
place.
C
We
have
a
number
of
tracks
in
place,
but
I
don't
yet
have
active.
I
don't
yet
have
good
information
from
people
who
will
act
as
track
leaders,
so
I've
I've
identified
this
security
track,
a
developer,
onboarding
track
a
documentation
track,
and
I
think
there
were
two
or
three
others
that
I
haven't
put
into
that
oh
pipeline
authoring
track
and-
and
so
we've
got
some
tracks,
but
I
am
confident
that
we
need
more
tracks
based
on
people's
interest
levels
and
my
intent
is
to
send
direct
invitations
to
specific
individuals,
encourage
asking
them.
C
Of
so
so
those
are
the
the
topics
I
had
also
identified
cloud
native
and
cara
de
la
marx
is,
is
interested
and
ready
to
lead
that
platform
user
experience.
So
felix
has
agreed
to
do
a
presentation
in
the
opening
session
summarizing
user
experience,
but
it's
I'm
not
yet
confident.
We've
got
enough
interest
to
have
a
full
track
on
user
experience.
So
that's
that's
still
one
that
uli.
You
may
be
interested
in
that
one
enough
to
be
the
track
lead.
C
Yeah
so,
and
that's
that's,
where
this
exercise
of
trying
to
collect
who
the
people
are
that
are
interested
and
their
interests
is
an
important
one.
So
I'll.
I
think
the
google
form
is
a
good
idea
to
allow
us
to
survey
people's
names
and
identify
areas
of
interest
where
what
I'd
do
is
put
these
things
as
check
boxes,
that
they
could
select
and
then
also
an
open
field
or
several
open
fields
where
they
can
give
us
additional
topics.
They
would
like
to
cover.
C
C
I
see
okay
good
so
where
we
could
do
just
breakout
sessions
allow
people
to
to
in
those
breakout
sessions
that
are
attached
to
the
opening
or
the
closing
session.
So
they
they
spend
time
in
the
breakout.
Great
okay,.
C
All
right,
I
like
that,
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
use
and
that's
a
use.
I
had
not
considered
making
of
zoom's
breakout
sessions
where
we
could
consider
going
90
minutes
in
the
welcome
session.
Presentation,
add
30
to
it
for
breakout
sessions
and
let
that
be
the
initial
organization
of
of
these
tracks.
So
then
they
can
find
when
that,
when
will
their
times
work
for
them
to
meet,
have
a
good
conversation
about
it
very
good.
Thanks.
A
C
A
B
Yeah,
I
mean
other
than
I'm
excited
to
see,
searching
and
plug-in
sites
soon.
But
I
don't
know
if
that's
governance.
C
C
F
B
B
For
the
contributor
summit,
I
I've
never
actually
been
to
those
events,
but
would
it
be
worth
having
a
topic
about?
I
guess
it'd
be
more
something
I'd
just
pitch
in
the
forums,
but
how
to
get
your
company
involved
in
jenkins
or
open
source.
B
B
B
C
B
A
So
basically,
it
pulls
down
two
previous
presentations
about
how
to
contribute,
etc.
But
if
there
were
some
sections
for
companies
as
well,
so
basically
boil
down
to
ask
your
manager.
B
C
Now
there
is
a
piece
there,
though
that's
subtle.
At
least
there
has
been
in
past
employers
for
me,
where
sometimes
the
employer
had
very
specific
rules
about
what
you
were
allowed
to
do,
or
not
allowed
to
do
contributing
outside
the
company
and
learning
how
to
ask
those
questions.
So
at
least
you
know,
the
answers
might
be
a
valuable
thing
to
have
in
the
toolkit.
Ask
your
manager,
are
you
allowed
to
contribute
documentation?
C
B
Or
even
things
like,
I
made
this
interesting
pipeline.
Can
I
talk
about
it
in
a
blog
post.
C
A
A
A
B
We
need
to
talk
about
mark's
awesome
trademark,
find
I'm
writing
the
response
right
now.