Jenkins Governance Meetings, 11 Aug 2021

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Jenkins governance meeting August 11, 2021 with topics including DevOps World, Discourse increasing use, JFrog investigation of artifact repository issues

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Welcome everyone: it's jenkins governance meeting for august 11., uh so we've got gavin logan.

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Randall becker thanks very much everyone for being here. uh I had only two items: news and devops world on the jumbotron, any other things that need to be on our agenda today.

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Nope, okay, cool! So then, let's, let's go through briefly the news 2.306 was released yesterday. It includes as a noteworthy change.

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uh The rpm packaging now requires.

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Now requires the demonize package.

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From um the epel repository, it makes it more consistent with debian and removes a bunch of legacy code from java.

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uh Next piece of news, jenkins 2.302.1lts, is coming with its change to the docker images. Jdk elections are coming up in december and uh did I get it right this time? Oleg and newly are the two officers uh two board members up for election? Yes, that's right! Okay, big win good! I am teachable contributor summit from june. I still have the action item. Sorry, it's carrying forward it'll be a while before I get to that. One next topic, then, was I submitted a pull request asking for permission to update the jumbotron.

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This thing right here with the devops world announcement and remove um the outdated items on it, which include things like she code. Africa contributes on and cdcon, and things like that contributor awards, those could be, will be removed. If this change is approved, um any discussion needed on the proposal. I thought it was approved.

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Well, I've seen your vote. Yes, I've seen uli's vote. Yes, I was. I was looking for a third board member to give me a majority, and I don't didn't get that third yet, but I think we can ask here and then call it approved.

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Well, you had zero negative and two positive. I think it's yeah, it's pretty good great, all right, fine yeah.

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Okay, so we'll consider this approved.

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That's easy, then great. Thank you.

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On that note, I also added discourse to the sponsored list.

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Oh yes, yes, thank you very much, and and did you see that I used my first poll on to find a meeting time, I'm trying to replace doodle.com with discourse and I'm impressed how well it's working. I.

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Really wanted to reply to it, but I don't think I'm coming to infra ones anyway. So.

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Yeah, well, that's for me it was just a. It was a cool experience to see okay now, why is it not showing my oh here? It is poll new time and day and we currently have four voters on it. So the poll is working. The way I'd hoped awesome.

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Yeah, we still need to add other new sponsors, like um I believe, aws needs to be added. Oracle cloud needs to be added, etc. Oh, are they oh good? Okay, I think, can you load jenkins, I o very quickly and go to the very bottom. I sure can.

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So aws is definitely they're good. I don't see oracle, but there they would be on the on the size of the the ones down here anyway. So I need to get that done.

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I'm not entirely sure what the difference is in between the sections, but.

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Yeah, it's it's mostly about a financial commitment dollars donated or people donated red hat's donated people. Github hosts all of our repositories. Jfrog hosts our our artifacts uh cd foundation pays our rather large infrastructure bills, osl hosts equipment for us and cloud-based funds. People.

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You know like uh I was thinking. Actually I don't remember what I think there's one one on there, I'm like we're using them a lot of things and but yeah. I don't know.

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Right so yeah good good, good point, so digital ocean still needs to be added, oracle needs to be added, um and there uh oh and uh scale way.

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Let's just put that action on me, we'd originally, given it to olivier, but it's just as easy for me to do it.

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Any other topics we need to discuss today in in governance.

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Not really I'm drafting up some more discourse stuff. I have some updates to the faq. I wouldn't like mine, getting feedback on, especially from you mark, because I don't write well um and a draft email to send out to blast again. If assuming we want to go down this route, I think it discourses kind of tapered off, so I don't know if that's just because it's summer or because people are not interested. I wish people would tell me, but you know, yeah.

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um Olivia is back next week, so we can have a bigger chat next time as well. I think.

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He's back, I don't know when he's back, he is next week yeah next week's the plan and for me at least it's it's a clear benefit. I know alyssa tong really likes discourse, uh strong preference. I think we've we've been very pleased. At least I have with the feedback that we get from blog posts by pasting, a link to the discourse page into the blog post, and it's just a good feeling.

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And then speaking of olivier, j frog, uh it was on info list is looking at doing, is is trying to investigate some of the issues we're having with copy artifacts. They realize that we're on our out-of-date versions. They want to do an upgrade and that will be arranged when obvi is back.

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Oh okay, yeah, apparently there was a bug fix for something to do with copying. Artifacts. I don't I don't know what mailing list is. I'm not too many mailings to know which one it was in, but yeah, apparently they have. It's been fixed in one of the more recent ones and we're running an old one. So they want to do an upgrade to hope that fixes things so.

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Don't know when and how, unless happening, because olivier is off, but it is something that came out.

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Good all right, thank you, weldon and that copy artifact performance is, is not critical for typical releases, but becomes critical for security releases. So 2.302.1 is not a security release. Therefore we're okay for august 25, but predictably, there will be something in the 302 line. That probably has a security fix at some point.

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Oh, it reminds me, I mean I'm sure jfrog will eventually want a bit of an outage. To do this. um Do we link status page anywhere? Is that something that's super public? Yet.

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uh Good question uh links: I I'm not sure that we've we've described it in a number of places, but we should probably put links to status.jenkins.io on on a number of places that we don't have them currently yeah.

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Cause I was thinking about how there was a discussion. I think it might have been the java 11 one uh about how we're doing announcements and stuff like that. So we don't have a formal policy on how where, when how? What we're doing for any sort of announcements affect users, so you know artifactory being down for half an hour, not the end of the world, but it would affect users. You know like that kind of thing right, so it is something we should think longer term about how we want to do.

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Yeah so we've we've used blog posts in the past to announce outages like that, but I'm not sure how effective that is. um We can continue that and, in addition, add announcements on status.jenkins.io because it has the concept of a scheduled outage. If I remember right.

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I don't know it's just something I was thinking about this, so I think talking about jfrog reminded me of a possibility, reminding you of status pages, which reminded me about announcements, so yeah, good, yes, okay, then I think I'm good for my list not list the non-list. Okay.

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Excellent: okay, any other topics.

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All right, I guess the general one I've always if no one can make this time slot. We want to make a new time slot.

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Slot I really do well and I think I think for me the magic is it works for you and it works for uli oleg's off anyway, right and and he's he wouldn't be available at any time. Slot he's right now busy with his little boy doing child care. So.

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Cannot commit to any meetings beyond.

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Beyond hours, wednesday and thursday, 7 a.m to 3 p.m,.

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Right his his time, which is way outside of west.

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Coast us I haven't looked at, I don't do math that well so yeah, okay,.

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So it's it's a valid question for this meeting, but for me right now this meeting works well and it hits you and it hits uli I I would love for it to work for evelina, but I also understand it's hey it's august in europe, it's holiday season exactly this is for me.

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Well, oh good enjoy enjoy your holidays. That's great! Thank you.

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I think we can reconsider the question in september.

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All right, let's, let's change that from want to need, do we need a new different time slot, oh good, because.

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Want one, but we might need.

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Good very good.

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Valid point: okay,.

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Nope early lunch for me, then thanks everybody recording will be posted when I get to it. Sorry for the delays, but my recording backlog is behind bye, ciao.