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A
A
Let's
get
started
with
the
announcement,
so
I
see
that
mark
is
updating,
so
the
weekly
release
to
0.321
has
been
released.
Is
that
correct?
It
is.
Do
you
want
to
share
your
screen?
Damien?
Oh
sorry,
it
was
already
shared.
My
apologies.
B
Okay,
can
you
see
my
screen?
Yes,
we
see
the
split
view.
If
you
want
to
switch
to
the
to
the
non-editable
view,
will
yep.
A
B
Yes,
docker
docker
war,
deb
rpm,
all
verified
issues
updated,
so
the
the
release
checklist
is
done.
Okay
and
windows
msi
as
well,
didn't
yet
execute
the
windows
msi,
but
I've
got
it
ready
to
download
I'll
download
it
to
my
computer
and
check
it
later.
A
B
And
there
definitely
was
not
that
I
checked
the
job
status
and
the
job
health
showed
that
the
job
completed
successfully
nice.
So
now
the
mirror
the
mirror
status.
I
was
a
little
surprised
that
mirrors
were
not
yet
showing
the
only
the
only
one
or
two
of
the
mirrors
had
the
latest
release,
but
that
you
know
it's
it's
unpredictable:
how
how
long
it
will
take
for
mirrors
to
see
a
new
release
so
yeah,
that's
correct.
A
Another
announcement
to
had
we
had
last
friday
during
this
long
weekend.
We
had
a
really
quick
security
release
on
some
plugins,
so
there's
been
a
security
builder
published
by
daniel,
so
thanks
daniel.
That
was
done
in
less
than
one
hour,
so
that's
really
cool
because
it
was
short
notice
and
everything
went
correctly.
So
good
job
people.
B
Lts
that
will
the
release
candidate
should
be
delivered
tomorrow.
The
pull
request
proposal
is
out
with
the
back
ports
and
then
two
weeks
later
december,
1st
will
be
the
release
of
2.319
encourage
people
to
test
it.
There
are
some
changes
in
there
and
some
back
ports
that
that
really
do
need
thorough
tests
before
we
we
deliver
an
lts.
A
A
Thanks
mark
is
that
all
for
announcements
cool
so
first,
I
saw
today
that
a
few
days
ago,
kosuki
sent
an
email
sent
us
an
email
about
the
tls
certificate
for
the
domain,
repo
that
jenkins
said.org,
which
is
the
domain
name
used
to
point
to
the
artifactory
service,
hosted
by
g
frog.
If
I'm
correct,
so
thanks
mark
for
answering
to
kk
that
email
thread
was
on
my
spam,
so
that
was
so.
If
you
both
of
you,
you
see
such
emails.
A
That
could
be
interesting
to
just
ping,
the
other
just
to
be
sure,
because
I
don't
have
them
always
so,
thanks
for
standing
up
on
that,
one
kk
opened
the
case
at
g
frog
directly
through
emails,
at
least
one
on
that
one,
because
it
seemed
like
there
is
another
subject
that
I'm
not
aware
of,
but
that
crossed.
A
A
However,
we
haven't
received
an
answer
last
time.
As
I
understand
we
had
to
generate
the
certificate
and
the
key
by
ourselves
and
then
send
them
the
private
kiana's
private
certificate
to
gfrog
through
email.
I
assume
totally
secured,
so
they
can
install
the
the
certificate
on
their
web
server.
So
I
don't
know
what
would
be
the
next
step.
B
Okay,
so
if
he
needs
to
issue
a
key
to
that,
if
he
needs
to
issue
the
private
key
to
them
or
if
in
our
dreams,
they've
switched
and
granted
or
I'll
can
use,
let's
encrypt,
but.
A
Okay,
yeah:
I
assume
that
kk
has
access
to
the
dns
records
for
the
domain,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
there
is
another
solution
with
let's
encrypt,
since
the
dns
is
pointing
to
the
ip.
If
we
switch
the
ip2k
machine
that
might
break
some
things,
should
we
ask
him
if
you
need
help
or
if
we
take
over
on
that
part,
I
don't
know
if
he,
if
he
has
time
for
that
or
not.
B
A
So
it
will
be
in
march
if
I'm
correct
right,
so
that
should
be
better
to
do
it
before
end
of
year.
Okay,
I
will
send
in
an
email
to
ask
him,
if
he's
if
he
has
access
to
dns
or
if
he
won't
support
or
complete
the
cover,
yeah,
okay-
and
he
pointed
that
if
we
have
to
generate
a
new
certificate,
the
old
one
will
be
valid
only
for
three
days
straight
before
be
being
expired
by
let's
encrypt.
B
A
B
A
Cool,
so
for
the
certificate
renewal
for
repo
you
can
see
org.
Is
that
all
or
is
there
any
questions.
A
Okay,
so
switching
to
the
next
subjects
kubernetes
elm
chart.
So
every
thanks
for
the
huge
work
you
did
on
improving
the
structure
of
the
elm
files
that
helps
to
keep
our
environment
clean.
We
removed
a
bunch
of
dead
code,
we
updated
the
elm
charts.
We
have.
We
have
tried
to
apply
some
conventions
over
the
way
we
use
them
charts
and
values.
A
We
were
expecting
improvement
and
the
ability
to
install
the
end
chart
in
parallel
to
have
a
quick,
quicker
process
sounds
like
it
doesn't
work
as
expected.
Sometimes
it's
even
slower
when
we
try
to
increase
concurrency,
so
we
will
have
to
double
check
that.
However,
now
the
main
work
is
around
update,
cli
that
has
to
we
are
doing
a
complete
audit
of
the
update
cli,
manifest
on
the
charts
repository
to
ensure
that
it
it
keeps
track
of
all
m
charts.
A
A
A
So
that's
the
current
work.
It's
almost
done.
That
was
the
past
week
and
that's
the
reason
why
we
wanted
to
be
extra
careful
with
the
weekly
release
today,
because
we
had
to
remove
old,
unmade
m
charts
and
rely
only
as
much
as
possible
on
upstream
and
charts
so
great
job
rv.
A
Yep,
that's
the
link
I've
put
on
the
description,
yeah
good
point,
so
please
do
not
upgrade
the
docker
elm
file
until
we
have
the
key
cloak
has
updated
their
l
charts.
Their
recent
term
chart
at
least
the
latest
one
which
has
been
published
in
september,
is
failing
the
lint
step
with
the
latest
version
of
elm.
So
this
is
outside
our
area.
That's
why
I
have
opened
the
issue
so
right
now
we
have
to
fix
the
end
version.
A
It
hasn't
been
done,
but
we
should
be
able
to
release
and
use
update,
cli
to
only
check
the
3.6
branch
of
elm.
That
could
be
a
safer
way
to
avoid
a
merging
buyer.
D
B
Yeah,
it's
it's
one
of
those
where
the
tyler
croix
has
automated
processes
that
renew
that
domain,
the
renewal
happens.
I
believe,
roughly
once
every
two
years
it
worked
successfully
with
the
automation
two
years
ago,
and
so
I'm
expecting
it
to
be
successful
and
I've
set
myself
an
alarm
to
to
red
flag
it.
If
we
get
to
the
point
of
less
than
30
days
to
renewal-
and
it
has
not
renewed,
then
we'll
escalate
it
to
tyler.
B
B
A
Okay
thanks
so
we'll
keep
talking
mark.
Could
you
add
a
reminder,
like
20
30
days
before
in
the
team
calendar,
so
everyone
will
be
able
to
to
have
a
reminder
if,
if
you,
if
you
are
not
there,
that
day
will
do
yes
thanks
something
else
about
the
renewal.
A
A
I
haven't
seen
any
complaint
yet
about
sport
agents
being
reclaimed
so
either
we
are
lucky
or
maybe
the
strategy
of
targeting
six
kind,
six
different
kinds
of
machines
and
letting
aws
select
one
kind
for
us
might
also
help
because
automatically
it
automatically
search
for
one
instance
on
that
collection.
For
the
reminder
that
is
the
most
available
available
from
aws
point
of
view
under
the
cheaper,
because
that's
where
they
have
most
capacity
for
us.
A
A
That
machine
will
be
split
into
two
virtual
machines
in
the
future,
because
right
now
there
are
two
main
services
there,
but
we
have
to
check
the
bandwidth
cost
on
azure,
but
because
azure
will
be
easier
for
us,
we
can
have
vms
or
kubernetes
charts,
which
is
good,
but
also
so
we
have
to
see
what
will
be
the
theoretical
cost
with
that
bandwidth
on
azure
to
first
have
an
idea
of
the
cost
and
if
we
can
afford
it
reference
to
the
next
point.
A
That
will
be
to
create
a
virtual
machine
on
oracle,
because
the
bandwidth
is
theoretically
unlimited.
The
projection
we
did
with
olivier
is
that
the
bandwidth
should
cost
50
bucks
per
month
on
the
worst
case,
which
is
completely
crazy.
I
don't
know
how
they
make
money,
but
yeah,
and
the
second
reason
is
that
we
can
use
irm
machine
instead
of
intel
machine,
especially
because
the
use
case
that's
required
at
bandwidth
is
a
web
server.
A
That's
an
apache
web
server
that
serves
files
on
the
file
system,
so
the
cost
of
the
machine
and
the
visibility
that
it
could
give
to
the
oracle
cloud
because
they
provide
irm
machine.
That
could
be
interesting
to
maintain
the
relationship
with
them
in
terms
of
partnership
and
the
cost
in
term
of
money,
for
us
is
really
a
good
win.
A
B
A
A
A
That
means
we
have
a
margin
there
if
we
have
to
move
services
out
from
ec2
if
we
cannot,
for
whatever
reason,
however,
given
the
effectiveness
of
the
spot
instances
on
ec2,
that's
also
something
we
could
add
see
to
see
the
impact
of
using
spot
instances
on
azure
as
well,
at
least
on
the
area
where
we
can
afford
it.
Just
to
see
the
impact
there.
A
A
We
won't
have
more
than
two
vms
on
both,
but
that
that's
a
start.
There
is
also
some
work.
We
have
two
machines
that
are
sitting
there,
doing
nothing
from
the
csl,
the
for
the
machine
that
were
used
for
confluence
and
jira.
So
we
can
still
reuse
these
machines
as
well
to
stop
paying
that
much
on
the
clouds
and
then
there
is
the
area
of
what
we
could
start
in
term
of
sponsorships
in
the
upcoming
months
or
quarters.
A
I
mentioned
kivo
cloud
last
week
which
provide
managed
kubernetes
based
on
cafes
and
they
are
using
jenkins
and
they
provide
jenkins
in
their
installation
marketplace
based
on
the
official
operator
and
erv.
I
think
you
had
something
I've
wrote
nomad,
but
can
you
remind
me.
A
D
Us
so
if
you
want
to
connect
the
agent
inside
your
to
square
over,
it's
probably
that
the
plugin
just
doesn't
support
this
mode.
A
D
I
wouldn't
put
bets
on
that
until
somebody
tries
it
out.
A
A
C
C
They
will
be,
I
think
they
could
help
us
if
we
have
a
troubles.
A
D
So
maybe
one
quick
note
about
the
siva
we
were
discussing
before
so
yeah
a
couple
of
months
ago
we
had
a
meeting
with
sayam
patak
and
we'll
see,
there's
a
few
other
people
at
siva,
and
we
asked
how
we
could
actually
collaborate
together
between
jenkins
coming
into
one
of
the
follow-ups
that
they
updated
their
default
template
to
official
home
charts.
So
this
was
done
outside
the
meeting.
D
Also,
we
added
it
to
downloads
jenkins
iowa,
but
we
still
have
an
open
topic
about
potential
collaboration
in
terms
of
hosting
maybe
some
kind
of
sponsorship,
or
maybe
some
kind
of
ideas,
because
siva
is
a
really
interesting,
especially
since
it's
probably
the
only
kubernetes
provider
where
you
can
provision
the
cluster
in
just
one
minute
or
so
so
it
doesn't
it's
not
terribly
painful.
As
for
any
other
vendors,
so
it
could
be
a
good
opportunity
and
actually
last
week
there
was
a
week
of
ci
cd
organized
by
siam
patak.
So
I
was
speaking
about
jenkins.
D
There
was
a
tipton
presentation,
captain
presentation,
so
the
context
is
active
and
if
for
somebody
in
the
jenkins
transaction
is
ready
to
explore
it
a
bit,
I'm
happy
to
test
this
context.
A
A
Okay,
so
that's
that's!
That's
why
I
meant
on
the
jenkins
infrastructure
parts
that
that's
completely
legit
topic
and
I
would
love
to
have
that
on
gen
games.
But
right
now
we
don't
have
that
need
on
the
scope
of
the.
A
Infrared
but
yeah,
okay,
thanks
for
sharing
that
that's
good
to
know,
because
that
means
they
are
also
in
position
of
listening.
Maybe
that
could
be
yeah.
D
A
Cool,
if
it's
okay
for
the
in
focus
topic,
do
you
have
any
other
question
control
proposal?
Okay,
so
move
on
kubernetes
1.20
upgrade
will
be
the
next
major
topic
for
us.
So
herve
you
volunteered
to
lead
that
one.
So
once
we
will
have
finished
the
end
chart
we'll
have
to
upgrade
our
two
kubernetes
cluster
to
1.20
line,
the
the
main
being
the
public
gates
and
aks
with
which
host
our
stateful
applications
and
the
eks
on
amazon
that
hosts
the
kubernetes
agents
for
ci
gen
kitsaio,
so
that
one
should
be
easier.
A
So
that
will
be
the
next
topic,
nothing
more
to
say
about
that.
Unless
you
have
a
question
or
something
clearer.
A
Okay-
and
one
last
note
so
thanks
for
taking
care
of
the
labels
for
the
ebmz,
the
agents
on
ci
jenkinso,
I
saw
the
label
update
to
avoid
building
gdk8
thanks.
I
totally
forgot
to
work
on
that
topic.
I
should
have
had
last
week.
So
thanks
for
that
and
expect
a
puppet
cleanup,
I
started
working
that
locally.
That
will
be
on
many
levels,
but
we
have
security
issues
about
the
puppet
dependencies
and
we
need
recent
pipette
modules.
A
A
If
we
cannot
find
a
solution
or
upgrading
them
to
something
else,
because
right
now
we
are
not
testing
what
we
have
in
production.
So
the
tests
underline
the
error.
That
will
never
happen
and
they
are,
they
did
not
cooked
the
last
free
production
outage
due
to
puppet
we
had
so
these
tests
are
worthless
and
worse.
D
Well:
okay,
yeah,
just
quick
question:
are
there
any
requirements
from
the
jenkins
governance
board
cdf
with
regards
to
infrastructure.
B
D
You
have
a
leg
yeah,
so
regarding
this
topic,
so
one
thing
I
recently
discovered
that
a
chair
of
the
technical
oversight
committee
is
also
expected
to
be
a
member
of
the
governance
board
on
this
year.
D
D
D
Now
I
can
say
anything
about
the
progress
there.
I
have
no
visibility
into
what
happens
there.
I
should
talk
to
fraser
next
week
if
everything
goes
as
I
hate
one
so
but
yeah.
Currently,
that
was
basically
depending
on
discussion
about
infrastructure
in
general,
because
sdf
would
like
to
consider
the
infrastructure
more
including
amazon
accounts.
D
Again,
no
movements
with
regards
to
jenkins
account
transfer
yeah,
probably
we
need
to
back
kara
and
we
see
whether
he
could
be
somewhere
on
her
priority
list,
but
I
believe
that
she's
busy
with
landscape
and
well
basically
there
is
no
program
manager
said
this
year,
so
if
tracy
is
not
going
to
that,
it
means
that
nobody
is
in
bed
at
the
moment.
D
So,
but
I
will
look
into
so.
I
will
keep
bringing
up
this
topics
but
yeah
right
now.
I
don't
have
any
immediate
updates.
D
I
wouldn't
expect
that
there
would
be
a
massive
drop
because
yeah.
Currently
there
is
no
charm.
With
regards
to
cdf
members,
I
mean
bank
sponsors
also.
You
may
have
seen
that
there
are
more
organizations
joining
so
currently
it's
not
about,
let's
say
budget,
it's
rather
about
how
the
budget
is
and
currently
let's
say,
yeah
jenkins
is
the
only
graduated
project,
but
it
still
consumes
the
vast
majority
of
this
leaf
infrastructure
budget
so
yeah.
D
This
is
a
tricky
point
about
how
things
work,
but
yeah
I'm
looking
forward
to
being
board
so
that
I
can
actually
understand
how
the
budgeting
works
under
the
hood.
A
D
Yeah,
I
have
one
topic
actually
released
some
time
ago
at
the
governance
meeting,
so
we
are
going
over
time.
So
if
everyone
finds
just
a
quick
question,
so
the
linux
foundation
expects
that
thanks,
community
as
well
as
other
communities,
adds
the
account
to
all
top
organizations
as
owner.
D
Basically,
from
the
project
sustainability
point
of
view,
so
sorry
could.
D
So
there
is
an
expectation
that
a
linux
foundation's
github
account
is
added
as
owner
to
all
organizations
of
projects
for
members
of
the
linux
foundation,
including
jenkins.
So
there
was
a
request
something
like
one
month
ago
from
tracy
there.
I
said
that
please
provide
details.
I
didn't
get
any
details
by
now,
but
I
know
that,
for
example
in
cncf
it's
a
mandatory
requirement
for
the
new
projects
and
it
will
be
the
same
for
the
cdf
at
the
moment.
D
On
the
jenkins
community
side
should
such
requests
arrive,
I
suspect
it
will
be
a
major
pain
for
us,
taking
a
private
repository
security
repositories
and
determine
the
number
of
people
who
have
access
to
this.
Linux
foundation's
account
so
miss
the
current
situation,
my
understanding
that
it
goes
against
how
jenkins
governance
and
security
practices
work.
D
I
still
need
to
discuss
it
with
this
body,
but
yeah.
I
would
expect
that
this
is
a
discussion
where
we
really
need
to
together.
This
is
the
governor's
world,
his
robotic
daniel
infrastructure
team
and
to
basically
build
it
with
the
consensus.
How
we
approach
that.
A
D
System
so
all
plugins
with
continuous
delivery.
Exactly
so
all
infrastructure
components,
including
companies,
handling
critical
credentials,
also
just
access
to
github
organizations,
potentially
personal
data,
gdpr
and
other
funny
things.
B
So
like
that
feels
like
one
for
me
at
least
where
security
team
and
governance
board
are
both
crucial.
Just
like
you
said,
we've
got
to
have
that
discussion
with
them
before
we
would
ever
consider
adding
an
additional
owner
to
those
those
organizations
and
those
that's
a
that's
terrifying.
For
me,
I'm
not
a
security
expert,
but
but
just
the
thought
of
adding
somebody
that
is
not
a
deeply
trusted.
Person
strikes.
Fear
in
my
heart.
B
D
Written
in
the
links
for
the
ancient
collateral,
so
the
reasoning
for
that
that,
if
something
happens,
then
linux
foundation
can
take
over
the
project.
It's
especially
important,
for
example,
for
some
box
projects
and
competing
projects
where
it's
quite
common
that
the
project
is
driven
by
one
company
and
basically
there
is
no
contingency
plan.
If
things
go
in
unexpected
direction,
so
yeah,
let's
imagine
james,
is
starting
to
stop
contributing
to
junk
insights
and
what
so?
D
And
yeah,
I
guess
that
think
radical,
no
is
not
going
to
be
a
good
answer,
but
discussing
what
would
be
garth
rails.
What
would
be
the
grace
period?
What
would
be
actually
systems
and
additional
guarantees
from
the
linux
foundation?
All
of
that
is
often
initiation.
A
It
took
a
point
treating
also
jenkins
cia
and
jenkinson
for
organizations
separately,
because
the
concerns
are
different
on
one
and
the
other.
That
might
also
help.