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A
B
Great
okay,
so
yesterday,
so
yesterday,
after
you
left
mark
so
liam,
and
I
we
kind
of
we
made
a
list
and
liam
phil,
please
feel
free
to
jump
in
at
any
time.
B
So
we
made
a
list
of
these
four
items
and
that
we
thought
that
perhaps
the
outreach
sig
could
work
on
as
a
way
to
help
move
the
project
forward
right.
So
the
first
item
is
under
the
educational
outreach,
which
you
are
very
well
aware
of
mark
and
so
the
goal
here,
I
think
for
the
initial
goal-
is
just
to
develop
a
written
program
and
I've
put
a
link
of
where
I
you
know
the
inspiration
came
from
and
then
the
second
item
is,
of
course,
devops
world.
B
So
I
wanted
to
see
if
we
can,
you
know,
get
volunteers
to
work
with
me
on.
You
know
what
is
it
that
we
want
the
community
track
to
look
like
this
year,
right
and
and
of
course,
reviewers
for
the
cfp?
B
The
third
item
is
diversity
in
jenkins,
community
and
liam
I'll.
Let
you
talk
about
this
one.
A
A
Basically,
there's
the
jenkins
the
set
of
contributors
there.
There
are
there's
a
wide
range
of
people
that
do
jenkins,
but
by
and
large
like
at
these,
these
meetups,
mostly
what
I
see
is
white
dudes
and
of
varying
ages,
some
of
us
getting
more
crusty
over
time,
and
it's
that
that
saddens
me
and
I'm
like
I
don't.
I
don't
have
an
answer-
how
to
address
this,
but
it
certainly
is
one
of
those
things
where
it's
like.
How
can
we
okay?
A
What
things
can
we
do
to
invite
in
a
broader
range
of
people?
I
mean,
I
think,
to
be
fair
to
to
be
fair
to
where
we
are.
The
the
set
of
contributors
to
jenkins
in
large
part
comes
from
the
people
that
have
worked
with
jenkins,
which
have
tended
to
be
people
that
get
stuck
in
the
server
room
which
tends
to
be
you
know.
So
you
know
you
get
it's
a
self-selecting
group
for
people
that
are
that
that
have
a
vested
interest
right,
but
you
know
I'm
using
this
tool.
A
So
then
I'm
going
to
work
on
it,
so
we
get
our
pipeline.
The
people
tends
to
be.
You
know
our
our
pool
tends
to
be
from
that
same
group,
but
there's
got
to
be
ways
that
we
can
draw
a
wider
audience.
There's
nothing
about
this,
about
jenkins
itself,
that
or
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
the
people
really
in
the
community.
That
says
we're
not
you
know
open
and
inviting
and
interested
in
having
more
people
contribute
and
a
wider
range.
It's
yes.
A
Thing
things
that
we
should
look
at
right
because
when
I'm
thinking
about
it's
like,
I
don't
think
that
the
I
think
there's
some
things
the
community
itself
could
do
to
to
to
be
more
friendly
to
new
contributors
and
stuff
like
that,
but
like
that,
there's
a
there's,
maybe
something
before
the
hey:
here's,
my
first
pr,
hey,
I'm
interested
in
working
on
this.
How
do
we
get
people?
A
broader
spectrum
of
people
in
that
funnel
right,
yeah?
So.
A
D
Africa
has
a
program
that
they're
launching
they've,
launched
it
now
asking
for
corporate
sponsors
and
for
open
source
projects
that
people
can
work
on
so
that
chico
africa
project
runs
for
the
month
of
april
to
invite
funded
developers
funded
women
in
africa
to
assist
with
open
source
projects,
and
so
what
we
need
is
we
need
project
ideas
that
we
can
bring
to
it
and
we
need
corporate
sponsors
so
alisson.
I've
already
approached
our
shared
employer
and
have
good
traction
on
that.
D
D
So
so
I
think
I
think,
that's
a
great
idea.
Oleg
also
noted
that
outreach
and
specific
outreach
is
probably
the
most
important
thing
we
can
do
in
terms
of
health
of
the
project
right
we
need,
we
need,
we
have
lots
of
ideas
of
things.
We
can
do
what
we
lack
our
hands
to
do
them
and
the
way
we
get
hands
to
do
them
is
by
exactly
these
outreach
programs
that
you're
noting
yeah.
I
like.
B
D
Sheet
code:
okay,
yeah,
good
idea,
yeah,
so
as
part
of
the
so
so
what,
in
the
conversation
we
had
in
the
doc
zinov
noted
or
in
the
docs
track,
seen,
I've
noted
that
she
code
africa
is
really
as
much
about
code
as
it
is
about
documentation.
So
documentation
is
just
a
peripheral
thing
or
is
just
one
of
many
ways
to
contribute.
D
They're
they're
willing
to
have
their
contributors,
assist
with
code,
assist
with
promotion
and
assist
with
other
activities.
So,
and-
and
I
I
I
like
that-
the
idea
of
proposing
to
cdf
that
they
might
also
be
a
sponsor-
I
I
I
thought,
oleg
had
a
good
concept
that
having
the
jenkins
project
be
actually
a
financial
sponsor
of
the
she-code
africa
project
is
probably
not
a
not
a
sensible
thing,
because
one
open
source
project
is
sponsoring.
Another
is
not
as
effective
as
persuading
corporations
to
sponsor
open
source
projects.
B
B
Okay,
that
makes
sense,
so
I
think,
like
the
so
like
the
education
outreach
can
also
be
under
the
diversity
in
jenkins,
community
and
or
growing
sick
participation.
B
How
are
we
communicating
that
we
are
accepting
diversity
that
we
welcome
this
right?
So
are
we
doing
that
number
one?
So
that's
why
I
put
that
first
bullet
and
sorry
when
I
wrote
that
down.
I
didn't
really
go
back
to
jenkins.iota
look,
but
I
thought
maybe
you
know
we
should
have
that
on
there.
B
That
explains
that
you
know
we
are
supporter
of
diversity
and
and
then,
as
far
as
growing
the
sick
participation,
I
put
a
link
there
and
I
look
at
which
link
that
was
was
yeah,
the
outreachy
internship
supporting
open
source
and
such
I
forget
why
I
looked
at
that.
But
oh
that
was
like
oh
a
paid
internship
right
right
I
mean.
B
And
then
the
other
thing
is
on
somewhere
on
along.
Let
me
find
the
link
to
that
page,
but
there
there
was
a
page.
That
explains,
you
know
how
a
first-time
contributor
can
contribute.
I
mean
it,
it
spells
it
all
out.
I
have
to
find
that
page,
but
it's
somewhere
in
my
screen,
but
I
thought
that
was
really
helpful.
B
D
Well,
and
so
certainly
certainly
we're
getting
we're
getting
if
we,
if
I
look
at
diversity
in
the
community,
if
we
look
at
google
summer
of
code,
there's
a
there's
a
great
example
of
a
diverse,
a
wide
spectrum
of
contributors.
We've
got
contributors
from
india
there,
contributors
from
china,
contributors
from
malaysia
or
singapore.
I
forget
you
know
so
so
lots
of
lots
of
different
people
involved
in
those
contributions,
natasha
stopa
from
pennsylvania
was,
I
think
it
was
a
year
ago.
So
so
we've
got
a
broad,
a
broad
swath
of
people
contributing
there
and
yeah.
B
Yeah-
and
I
think
we
just
need
to
make
sure
to
call
out
or
highlight
contributors,
we
I
think
we
should
make
an
effort
to
do
that
at
least
maybe
on
a
monthly
quarterly
basis,
but
give
them
a
place
to
shine
and
the
spotlight.
You
know
that
may
perhaps
that
they
can
say
hey.
I
did
this
with
you
know,
maybe
their
future
employer.
D
What,
if
what
if
we
were
to
do
something
like
that
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
jumbotron,
for
instance,
some
sort
of
a
rotating
view
of
here
here
are
four
or
five
contributors.
When
cara
presented
her
google
summer
of
code
summary
today,
she
put
up
a
very
nice
set
of
six
or
seven
pictures
of
the
google
summer
of
code
students,
and
I
find
those
pictures
quite
engaging.
A
D
Now
the
the
problem
with
that
is
that
only
gets
authors
from
that
site
and
and
that's
a
tiny
fraction
of
the
total
contributors
to
jenkins.
I
don't
know
that
spin
connection,
for
instance,
in
in
in
the
czech
republic,
has
a
picture
on
the
on
the
site
so
may
not
or
of
kehn,
who
is
who
is
definitely
a
contributor
from
google
summer
of
code
or
even
xenapp.
I'm
not
sure
that
xenobs
actually
got
a
photo
on
there.
D
B
D
It
is
and-
and
it's
certainly
data
we
can
solicit
right-
we
can,
we
can
ask
them
hey.
Could
you
please
yeah?
Could
you
please
help
us
highlight
contributors
to
jenkins
and
and
our
selection
can
bias
strongly
towards
people
that
we
think
will
be
interesting
and
and
fun
to
see
and
interesting
because
they're
diverse,
I
admit
it.
I
think
I'm
interesting,
but
I'm
a
middle-aged
white
male.
I
have
to.
A
I
mean,
I
don't
think
we
should.
I
don't
think
we
should.
You
know
avoid
highlighting
people,
but
it's
more
just
like
I
think
there
and
there
are.
We
highlight
more.
D
D
B
So
so,
based
on
these
four
items
mark
I
mean
do
these
look?
Okay,
that
we
we?
What
is
the
next
step,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out?
What's.
D
Yeah,
so
so
I
think
tomorrow
in
the
in
the
roadmap
presentation
or
in
the
yeah
in
the
concluding
session
present
these
four,
as
as
I
as
plans
to
be
on
the
road
map-
and
I
think
I
would
even
put
the
review
committee
yeah-
put
put
all
four
of
them
up
as
part
of
that
the
slide
deck
for
the
final
and
I
haven't
even
created
the
slide
deck
yet
so
we
put
them
up
for
the
slide
deck
and
and
then
you
talk
to
them
and
solicit
input.
D
The
intention
is
that
tomorrow's
closing
session
will
be
a
working
session,
so
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
share
these
these
ideas
and
then
we
invite
further
comments
and
then,
as
we
as
we
do,
that
we
may
say,
okay,
we
would
like
to
put
these
things
into
the
roadmap
and-
and
we
think
advocacy
should
be
part
of
the
jenkins
roadmap
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
it's
actually
got
a
place
right
now
for
for
advocacy.
Does
it.
D
A
D
At
it-
and
here
if
I
click
just
the
subset
that
are
oh
outreach,
programs
and
community
events
and
and
those
those
both
seem
like
great
great
places
for
us
to
put
so,
we
had
community
bridge
as
a
mentorship
potential
and
we've
done
one
community
bridge
project.
So
we
know
it
can
work,
but
it
would
be
good
to
do
more
and
then
jenkins
on
kubernetes
online
meetups.
We've
we've
started
those
and
yeah.
So
we
have
replaced
that.
How
do.
A
D
A
Yeah-
and
I
just
I-
I
was
just
like
people
talk
about
talk
about
this-
a
bunch
I'm
like
okay,
there's
there's.
This
is
a
cool
page.
It's
very
visual
and
very
right
highlights
all
the
things
that
are
available
and
or
at
least
a
number
of
things
that
are
available,
and
this
is
totally
worth
you
know
putting
up
there
right,
yeah.
D
A
And
I
would,
I
would
even
navigate
have
more
than
one
way
to
get
to
it,
maybe
okay,
so
so
so
the
about
definitely
right
and
then
community
overview.
D
D
D
Not
really
sure
where,
okay,
you
think
well
yeah,
and
we
could
certainly
put
it,
it
seems
every
bit
as
interesting
as
wiki,
yeah
or
sorry.
Wiki
is
no
longer
interesting
right.
B
D
A
D
Way
we
can
have
the
discussions
about
them
in
the
pull
request,
because
those
are
those
are
very
reasonable
places
to
consider.
Should
we
add
it
to
to
two
of
the
three
one
of
the
three
all
three
and
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
it
makes
sense
in
documentation
and
certainly
plugins
is
not
not
roadmap
so,
but
but
by
the
way,
I
have
to
show
you
this
notice.
D
C
D
B
Well,
mark:
how
do
we
add
the
these
items
onto
the
roadmap
through?
Is
it
through
pull
requests
as
well?
It.
D
It
is
so
so
I
think
what
we
do
is
tomorrow
during
the
presentation
present
them
as
ideas
and
then
get
agreement
that,
yes,
they
are
good
road
map
entries
and
then,
after
the
conclusion
of
tomorrow's
session,
you
and
I
can
pair
together
and
work
on
submitting
the
pull
request.
B
D
D
B
All
right
and
then
so
so
then,
once
that
they
approve
as
items
for
the
roadmap,
and
then
we
take
this
to
the
outreach
sig
and
then
we
work
out.
The
plan
is
that
is
that
the
plan.
D
D
A
No,
no
tomorrow
they'll
we'll
get
a
bunch
of
feet.
I
think
what
mark
was
saying
was
tomorrow,
we'll
get
a
bunch
of
feedback.
People
say
hey,
we
could
try
this.
We
could
try
that
we'll
get
some
brainstorming
and
some
more
information
and
opinions
and
talks
from
people
and
then
synthesize
those
after
the.
A
I
guess
under
the
sig
participation
is
where
I
put
the
road
map.
Just
if
you
want
to
just
track
this.
Is
it
if,
oh,
it's
a
matter
of
making
things
visible
right,
so
right,
participation
in
part
is
make
the
the
road
map
which
has
all
of
those
sort
of
projects
and
where
they're
at
and
how
to
find
them,
and
they
make
that
more
visible
on
the
gpx.
That's
that's
the.
D
D
A
D
C
A
D
Okay,
so
the
idea
was
propose
it
under
about
under
community
and
under
subprojects
links
from
individual
sig
subprojects
are
sick,
either.
Oh
right,
sorry
from
individual
from
save
so
it's
sick
pages
linked
to
roadmap,
yeah
cool,
very
good.
C
Yeah
we
did
it
for
a
few
six
initially,
but
it
it
wasn't
consistent.
A
Yeah,
so
this
just
we'll
just
make
it
consistent
that
way
that
way
it's
it
brings
it
up
a
little
harder.
A
D
C
D
C
C
Because
yeah,
when
we
were
pushing
particular
six
we're
easily
getting
to
10
15
people
on
the
call
but
yeah
when
it
stops,
then
it.
D
Stops
right
well
and
for
me,
there's
there's
an
element
of
growing
the
sigs
by
these.
These
outreach
programs,
gsoc,
google,
chico
africa,
community,
bri
or
outreachy
through
community
bridge.
C
C
So
for
me
it
would
be
more
important
to
actually
attract
company
contributors
to
6
than
to
do
outreach
programs,
so
outreach
programs
is
a
way
to
facilitate
projects
6
interested
in
because
6
could
provide
an
umbrella.
So,
for
example,
you
are
interested
in
platform
support.
There
is
a
group
of
interested
contributors
and
we
can
run
out
of
each
program
to
get
it
done,
including
funding,
etc.
C
D
A
D
Well,
and
so
so
this
is
one
or
like.
Are
you
envisioning?
For
instance,
we've
got
jim
crowley
from
ibm
right
now,
who's
interested
because
of
ibm's
interest
in
in
doing
work
on
it.
We've
got,
we
could
potentially
have
aws
involved
or
google
in
terms
of
their
cloud
as
part
of
a
platform.
Kind
of
effort
is,
is
that
the
sort
of
thing
that
you're
in
you're
thinking
of
there.
D
Good
right
I
mean,
for
instance,
we've
got.
We've
got
alex
earl
who
participates,
but
he's
really,
even
though
he's
from
broadcom,
I
don't
think
his
participation
is
motivated
primarily
by
broadcom's
business,
because
I
think
here
what
you're
thinking
is:
let's,
let's
try
to
combine
a
company's
business
interest
with
the
needs
of
the
jenkins
project
and
align
those
for
progress,
so
ibm
would
like
390
support,
and
there
are
certainly
arm
vendors
that
want
arm
support.
D
D
B
So
this
sounds
to
me
similar
to
like
what
cdf
does
so
they
have
the
different
committees
or
groups
working
groups
right
and
then
so
companies
send
their
employee
or
to
become
a
member
of
or
participate
in
that
working
group.
So
I
think
this
is
the
same
idea
that
oleg
is
suggesting
right.
D
B
So
from
what
I
know,
I
think
it's,
the
members,
the
members
of
cdf.
They
are
the
ones
that
so
they
pay
cdf
to
be
a
member,
and
then
they
also
send
you
know
a
representative
from
their
company
to
be
on
one
of
those
working
groups.
D
D
B
Yeah,
we
can
definitely
ask,
although
I
know
it's
it's
it's
quite
challenging
with
those
of
us
that's
already
sitting
on
those
working
groups
plus
our
you
know,
our
our
our
you
know,
nine
to
five
your
full
day
work,
so
that
might
be
a
challenge.
D
Well,
I
I
wonder
if
this
is
something
I
should
take
up
with
with
tracy
as
to
hey
what
what
are
appropriate
boundaries
for
us
to
invite
cdf
member
companies
to
assist
us
or
us
invite
their
representatives
to
be
more
to
increase
their
involvement.
B
I
think
for
me,
I'm
good.
I
think
we've
covered
all
that
we
needed
okay.
D
And
so
I'll
send
you
a
link
to
a
skeleton
presentation
that
we
can
use
for
tomorrow's
tomorrow's
material.
I
think
most
of
the
session
should
be
focused
on
conversation,
but
it's
good
to
have
these
kind
of
concepts
from
each
of
the
each
of
the
tracks,
so
that
then
we
can
get
feedback
and
have
discussions
in
that
session.
B
Okay
before
we
go,
I
have
a
an
off
topic
question
mark,
so
you
feel
free
to
on
record.