Jenkins Platform SIG, 22 May 2020

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From YouTube: Jenkins Pipeline-Authoring SIG Weekly Meeting for 20200522

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Topics (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EhWoBplGl4M8bHz0uuP-iOynPGuONjcz4enQm8sDyUE/edit#):
- Covered UI/UX Hackfest - Pipeline documentation
- Tracking roadmap items with Jira stories
- Comms channel

A

Hello, everybody and welcome to the jenkins pipeline authoring sig. The date is, may 22nd 2020 we're midway through or I don't even know if it's midway, but we are somewhere putting points of the world pandemic so hope everybody is safe.

A

uh This meeting is governed by the jenkins code of conduct, which is amounts to be awesome to one another. uh Please don't make me have to use that which I don't think I've never had to or seen it so anyway. uh My name is marty. Jackson. I am one of the sig leads for the pipeline authoring and uh I see we have some new people on on there uh I see familiar faces. I see a few names that I haven't. One name that I haven't seen before. If you'd like to introduce yourself, please feel free.

B

Hey this is king and addison um just joining in seeing what this is about. um Probably listening a bit before contributing too much. uh I work with stephen decentralized allen, hamilton so excited to join awesome.

A

Well, welcome. Welcome. Welcome we're a ragtag bunch, I'm trying to keep it light. I think, uh okay, I am going to share my screen and we can get started, but unfortunately, let's see if this works for me. No because I had to format my system, it is new. Does anybody else want to share the screen for the meeting notes? I can't do it without leaving this meeting so zoom can take my settings thanks.

A

Awesome: okay, uh let's see, let's go ahead and start open items from last meeting uh I was unable to attend last meeting due to a personal conflict, but I see we did go over a lot of things. I do see next steps. I am going to start from the jenkins runner update.

A

Next steps was integration test mini framework, including pipeline is yaml. Do we know if that uh whose action item that was.

C

So oleg was saying that he um he released 1.08.12 of the jenkins file runner. um He mentioned that that might be an opportunity to leverage the jenkins file runner for integration testing for pipelines, right, which is an interesting idea. Jenkins file runner lets you sort of do one shot jenkins masters to run a pipeline, so there might be an opportunity to leverage that for for integration testing.

C

He also said he was going to incorporate support for pipeline as yml into the jenkinsfile runner so that he could get some experience with python and xaml and test it out. um So I think any any follow-on items for that would be an update from oleg the next time he's able to join us.

A

Yeah, I will I'll sync with him offline see if he has an update to that, and I will add it to the notes uh we usually sync multiple times throughout the day, so I'll I'll get him. uh Let's see pipeline as yaml update next steps was integrate, the pipeline generator do we know who was discussing that.

C

That was uh iron talk. I don't see him available on the the call today. I'm also I apologize not talk if I butchered pronunciation, uh but he he's currently working on pipeline and gemma um didn't get an update last week in regard to the the pipeline generator.

A

Okay, we'll go ahead and.

C

The goal for that was to be able to to for the the pipeline syntax generator to be able to spit out a pipeline as yaml equivalents for for snippets.

A

Okay, we'll punt that until next meeting and let's see here uh with jenkins templating engine for 2.0, I don't see any action items. Did you have anything in regards to that.

C

uh No, no action items just uh we were pretty light on agenda last week, so I figured I'd, give an update on the scope for the 2.0 release, since it was it's on the jenkins roadmap now. So no one actually items there.

A

Okay, too, too easy, uh let's see, facilitate, contribute contributions to plugins, there's really no action items. For that awesome. I will move on from that to discuss. We have the hack fest the pipeline documentation. I believe you entered this in mark. Did you want to speak to this.

D

Sure I just have an idea that what I'm going to do is well one encourage people to contribute if they're interested in contributing pipelining documentation, there's a piece of pipeline documentation that is complicated.

D

It's complicated because you have to document inside plugins, not just documenting on the jenkins.io site, and we could touch on that in the docsig office hours. If that helps, there's so much to do on the jenkins dot io site, that's much more approachable for people much more comfortable than having to find a specific plugin and update its documents that I'm prone to leave it off for now.

D

But it could be an advanced topic that we could consider if, if there is some interest, it's one that I've learned the hard way manage, maintain a git plug-in that I can't just go to an ascii doc file, write its documentation and be done. I have to think carefully and put it into certain places in the plug-in structure to have it visible, then, in the help, in the syntax generator and in the online jenkins, dot io doc.

D

B

D

Piece, the second proposal there was, I think, I'm just gonna as part of my hackfest contribution. Do a blog post and a five minute, video highlighting the pipeline snippet generator. I still think we get far too much feedback on the site, which says give me more examples where the people don't realize. The examples are are already inside their system ready to be used.

A

That that would.

D

Actually, be really.

A

Awesome, uh I know a lot of I get a lot of questions for that and if people actually saw some way to use that, if I can help you in any way doing that, I would be more than happy because I know that would stop a lot of questions.

A

C

D

C

Jenkins pipelines on a daily basis and I still use the snippet generator almost every time. I need to figure out the particular syntax like, and I.

D

Know j as well.

C

As you can at this point- and I use it every day,.

D

Right, I am, I am- we should be intentionally lazy in in generating things the simplest way possible and snippet generator is one of those simplest way possible to generate it. Absolutely.

A

And that's all we can help you out. Let me know we'll definitely I'd love to help you out. Okay, uh I had an item on here tracking roadmap items with jira stories, so one of the things that we need to do is for the roadmap is to really start to dial uh drill down into creating stories for those, so those can be updated on the actual roadmap that was put forth by oleg.

A

So I am going to be spending some time this long holiday weekend uh going over what you know what is out there what matches? uh So, you may seem see some things from me where I'm you know like with uh jte like hey. Would this be a good thing to pull into that sort of store? Would this story be good to pull into the road map for jte and and other things like there's things like linting, and things like that, so I'm gonna be doing that I'll. Make a note here.

A

C

Correct me, if I'm.

A

C

I think right now, if you go to the road map jenkins, dot, io project roadmap, so right now are we linking to like epics? Is that.

A

C

That's what we'll do.

A

Yeah, that's what I'm going to want to do. Is I'm going to want to take the epics that we have on the roadmap and then start to associate stories with those so you're able to do a mapping from the roadmap to where all of this exists.

A

So that is what I will be doing. uh That is all I had for any discussion items. Does anybody else have anything that they would like to discuss?

A

I will add that, uh has anybody noticed an uptick in conversations in the getter channel for the pipeline authoring? I have noticed it's like really increased and I, like I'm kind of like excited about that and then also kind of scared like uh oh, we gotta we're gonna, get everything together fast, because people are now coming you're too good.

C

um So I I made a new open source friend and uh jerry who is working on some some functionality and sort of starting to dive around the the pipeline code base. Looking for opportunities, so he's been asking a ton of questions and driving conversation. So that's exciting. um We I will encourage him to attend the next time, because he has some ideas that might warrant some conversation in the sig around pipeline visualizations unit testing some stuff, like that.

C

um I don't want to go too far into the technical weeds, but he has some very uh I'll call them niche interests and and how to leverage jenkins.

A

Yeah I was reading some of that very interesting uh conversation, so yeah that'll be awesome to have more people here. Does anyone have anything else keegan you have seen a lot? Oh I'm sorry. Vlad go ahead.

E

Yeah, just I wanted to touch uh one of the issues regarding uh hack fest, which is going to happen next week uh in previous discussions. We were trying to make decision on the communication channel uh gator versus slack, and I opened the google doc, which uh oleg uh I guess- and this is still the question, but at the same time I noticed that guitar uh channel was established for next week. uh Hackerfest, so just wanted to clarify.

E

Is it the final decision on communication channel that guitar will be the channel of communicating or it's still not decided yet.

A

uh So there's been a lot of conversation about this, not only just for the hack fest but prior uh of what you know slack versus skitter. For now I will say we are going to stay with gitter. My hope is is that at some point we'll be able to move that, but that's just to hope. I don't know how real that is going to be. I don't come to fruition fuel, but I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, so get her will be of the official.

E

A

Keegan you've you've heard this is one of our shorter meetings, but did you have any questions.

B

Oh, no, nothing really specific. I'm still trying to get up to speed with everything.

A

Understood yeah I'll know if you have any questions, we're we're in the getter channel. So if you're not, there definitely join there, and if you have any questions and don't be afraid to ask questions, that's for sure nobody will fault you for asking questions yep. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks for joining, please do come back well. If nobody has anything else, we'll call this a short meeting I'll give you the rest of your friday back, and I will see you all online.

A

Awesome I'm going to stop the recording.