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From YouTube: Platform SIG: Java 11 and Jenkins ATH: Sync-up, Nov 23, 2018

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Sync-up about testing Java 11 support with Jenkins Acceptance Test Harness toolset (WebUI and integration tests). Meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cORivqvGbPJBm9O_fiY3JrST2aE7thHuJv47FKRz0jg/edit#heading=h.plak84qmvpho

A

Hi today we have a shot sync up about Jenkins acceptance, test, harness and javelin. So in the platform platform special interest group, we are working in Java eleven support and there is a good progress there. So effectively we had a meeting on Monday where you can find all the information it's linked from platform seek page and one of the workers we have right now to atleast preview. Availability in Jenkins is actually a test automation because we want to have some test automation and Jenkins test. Harness is kind of done now.

A

There is good progress with speedy. There is good progress with acceptance test harness by Oliver and yeah. This meeting I would like to just sync up on a certain stance harness to understand how we can run it, how to test it and what is more important, how we can how to get this task finalized. So I have created mmm sync up document, so I'll, just post it in the pod from cheap, chug and chug.

A

Just a second, oh yeah, I, don't shame my screen right. You know yep, no you're, not okay, and now it's one. It wasn't very useful. I bought the recording, but whatever its internal thing. Okay, so I have pasted the link to the status document here, import from chick so effectively what we have now yeah there is a status update, presentation. I was talking about so it's linked here. It just deletes lists all the current information and current progress and yeah. There is a pull request by Oliver, which actually adds support for Java on.

A

So it looks to be relatively small but believe that there are some upstream changes which quite related to that, like selenium, 3 and whatever so maybe Oliver. You could briefly describe the current status and, what's left to be done there right.

B

I certainly can as usually no, we started. You know putting things together on on how professor needs, and at that point the automation was broken because of switch to selenium tree, and so I mean to working for us. So, ultimately, the quite big change was integrated yesterday, so I started following and following with this work, actually the first decent build of the effort. I got running this morning, preventing sooner so you're. Finally, getting some test results.

B

There are some failures: I managed to briefly look at the ED, where we are we're still identifying some problems, both in the test suite and in some of the pipeline plugins. So it would be able to us to have look at the result. I expect it to complete sometime this afternoon today have a look at where we are and we can start working up until now. It was all just getting thing you know getting at us. We started and running pace, so we can still have a look at it as failures. Yeah.

A

Right with regards to pipeline begins, there is actually a pendant work for it, so there is Jenkins Siri workflow support, plug-in, pull requests and yeah. There is a Java alone support. Actually, there is multiple pull requests currently II. We have this one and javelin support conversion.

A

This is what you need to, including the ability if you wanted to test my plan. So here's the latest snapshot I created yesterday, because batiste also does experiments with every ring and we needed to top stream that so we you know that to run anything against pipeline you need, but otherwise pipeline. Just friends.

B

And this sort of interrupted there's a new version of a plug-in or a completely new plugin. We have to throw in it's.

A

A new version of the plugin, so pipeline support plug-in, is engine which actually includes civilization context. So the problem here that pipeline data serialization to the disk doesn't work unless you have new JBoss marshal impression right.

B

That's something: I have identifying I find some who request? Could you please share this bling to flow requests with me, yeah.

A

Right, I just put it to the stuck with a status document. Okay I still share my screen right, okay, so yeah you can just go there and pick a reaction from there. Okay, before that, just doesn't make sense to test pipeline they've got some changes integrated on the core side, but yeah I believe that true 150 eggs.

A

Actually it should include all Java leaven clutches we know about. So. If you run tests against the the needs candidate for the new LCS basil mine technically, it should be working with Java alone. Fine.

C

A

We discover something here.

A

And if you want to run the Java 11 now, how would we do it? I mean, for example, take your pool request. How do we spin it up in Java 11? So maybe we could help his kicks. In particular issues.

B

Right I put together Jenkins file in a way, so it actually builds both on Java, 8 and Java 11. So on looking at Venapro request verification now seeing in the CI Jenkins IO is probably the preferred way, except that there is a way how long should locally. Just in case, you would like to experiment or quickly iterate locally, mmm but I'm afraid this is not documented anywhere. So I'll just put it into the into the pork butt, so people can have logo.

A

So if you could do that, it would be really helpful if I understand correctly Rahman tried running quit yesterday and experienced the issues with that. Is this right.

C

A

C

Check out the Oliver branch run, the the docker image entering the double image and said ransom script, the script set up the environment and the Rams e sh script. I have some some failures. So I did this one: okay, I.

B

C

Wondering how to set up all them by omegan and the test to play with with this right.

B

As I said until yesterday, we were stuck that some even more essential thing didn't work, so I get some real progress on that last night and this morning, so it required some changes because there was no way to provide these enable answers about what about those optioning to actually provide this tool to Jenkins. So why get it smooth since this morning or something oh I, have a better description of the forecast which hopefully I, have an instruction of how to run this.

B

But of course, if there are any questions, just shoot and I can improve the documentation. Okay,.

A

And just a second I'm refreshing, the page for you so enable future Java Firefox Altius. Do we also need to pass specific environment for javelin, because, if I recall correctly so at least BCT tests for you? If you do not pass models, how does it work with Java 11 I mean? How does it work with acceptance discovers well.

B

I haven't discovered any such problems on a test. Suite is running right now. Okay, so.

A

Mm-Hmm neighbor future Java Jenkins hopes, but he is it possible to pass the jobs to a certain test, harness yeah.

B

Jenkins opted wasn't possible until today, and there is Jenkins underscore Java underscore opts for options. For you know, JVM.

A

Jenkins, you ever hoped for GBM, so yeah most likely it will be needed.

A

Most likely, we will need these things, not at the front correction.

A

Okay, I just added it to the comment and do we have any specific test categories which would you recommend to run against Java Levin.

B

Well, I'm trying to put to have everything run against that and see how far it goes. This is the first decent round we've been running, so we haven't even got anywhere close to. Actually, you know evaluating what was working or not in Jenkins core. We have this. What is it called smoke test category, which is a very small subset of core based tests? So I guess it would be a very nice low hanging fruit to get running against core once we actually make sure that it makes sense.

A

Other than it should be smoke, this relatively small yeah, it's like better, no 10 tester was me. It takes maybe five minutes, so just a second I'll show how to get it. So there is essentials yamo file here and effectively. There finds the smoke test keyboard.

B

Very lucky don't seem to be sharing the screen or Aria I. Do oh sorry, my mistake: okay,.

A

A

Thank you you're, so profile around smokers or, if you use essential CML something like that yeah, it should enable smokers.

A

So yeah we did, it should be possible to run it locally and make me explore some problems. So, for example, we know that plugins, like Jaco, will likely fail.

A

And most likely cobertura as well.

B

A

If the attack it each test to confirm that it would be nice.

B

Right I presume the video we will get quite a lot of input on what does and doesn't work so I'm wondering, what's the preferred way to communicate back to pop music.

A

So what we have when JEB.

A

204 sorry jab 2, 1, 100 100. So here we have testing section and there is a Google Doc which actually contains all the tests we about running. So now it's pretty much empty, but here what we were doing for jab 200 and what makes sense to do it here if you hit any issues, just put it to this Google Doc and yeah. If you submit the tickets link it from there so that we have a kind of central document for issues we discover.

B

Right so we'll try to feed it with years.

A

So if you report it here, just make sure to add your name so that we know when to contact yeah, and we also got plug-in compatibility tests framework running so we will build some deviant some results here soon effectively.

A

What I want to get in the beginning in the end, reject to suddenly believe so, injector solvent. There is also testing and there should be 200 testing nodes. Oh it's a pretty big document. We created together with Jay cyclic and some other testers. It's what we would test and kind updating before the job 200 release in the weekly. Oh yeah, something like 20 pages, but here each document is rather something like that. So what we heat what's linked, if applicable, pull request and yeah, that's it mm-hmm for job 200.

A

We had to update a lot of trainings because ancient plug-in homes didn't support it. Where I hit pretty much the same for job two one one when we run PCT but for certain stats, harness it shouldn't be, a problem should be able to run existing tests without magnification.

A

So if you hit anything, just put it to the dog or comment right, if you want I, can I give you added permissions so that you can just watch the document to be good.

A

They also give permissions to Lucy.

B

Yeah, please do.

A

So I have on the curate shot, email and yeah also give access to.

A

Ramona I will likely need you gmail account link, so I'll also give you access, Lika, okay, mm-hmm, okay, thank you. So we can just use this document in order to report. Everything can sync up use that mm-hmm and yeah mm-hmm.

A

Actually, one questions I also had left is how we can help. So, for example, if you know about any tasks in addition to pasting and exploration, just let us know so that we can report them in jenkins, jito and maybe help to get some tasks over the fence.

B

Yeah I mean speaking for myself. This certainly helps more guidance of what to do. How to proceed would definitely be good. Unfortunately, I do not have you know enough information for what are specific areas from da th with me mean hell, because that's that you only get it running this morning, but I presume that they would have that tomorrow or something like that. So we do with our hands dirty player, mm-hmm.

A

Okay, so what we could start working instead, so there is some understanding.

A

What is what needs to be done on a th, but we also have Jenkins infra, biplane library, Oh, currently Lincoln's core, so in Jenkins core we have enabled to Jenkins test harness for javelin, but we didn't enable acceptance test harness so far because we depend on this running th step and they advantage of this run it each step that actually, it allows pinion version. So, for example, since you are doing patches in your repository, it would be possible to just get her edgington's Jing means.

A

So here you may see that there is essentials test llamo and there is a key revision. So probably one of the things we put take to to help is to try creating kannada at each step for job 11 and looking at whether we can update run it teach to run with this step.

A

So it's effective jenkins file and run it teaches here. What do you think about it? Rahman.

C

Okay, interesting.

A

So generally, while we wait for the first run,.

B

I guess one thing you would have to do is to update the page revision to version that actually supports the the selenium 3, because I suspect that a tests are just failing all the time without it then.

C

B

Think review whether the core build is actually have a healthy round of ATH, just failing or something terrible. So we can update it to at least get a chance to succeed. If you know, even if it would work for Adam and I'm, just browsing to rerun a th just to verify whether we need to change anything on a first place, there's a chance that a doctor would actually make the changes in the for requests in ATH I've got open Whitney.

B

We actually consume that and test against both versions. It would probably be the best yeah.

A

Right, so if you cannot ignore your pull request, it may be something which would help her to get drunk.

A

Drinking's file and.

A

With three new moi, three is needed.

A

It's all this is something we can start working on now and it still allows explore and create and maybe discovering more issues and once you have for this first run finished, yeah I believe we could sync up on Monday, then and I think what needs to be done there, because yeah most likely many tests will fail right now, because, if you run without pipeline wash all pipeline tests will fail for Shawn.

A

Probably it's also subject to update because hey we can update.

A

Your pull request in order to integrate models right there.

B

Is one other thing I can think of all you might be my recall, there is a poor request or pipeline library to actually permit it to run against both both were I mean several versions of Java and different version of Jenkins, which is one thing that we haven't released all along.

A

So update run, engage to support multiple versions of Java.

B

What I'm talking about I guess is the pipeline library, if you have, what is it built plug-in is the one we have modified. Oh.

A

You mean getting this pull request over the fence, yeah I'm, just trying to turn it right now.

A

Well, there is a ticket indicator for finally isn't good. I will make sure it is a link correctly.

B

It doesn't seem to be, you know, any objection of an interesting discussion. I'm sorry I might not seen your comment there, but the point is that one would certainly help me to finish. This is to have a way how to get it tested or what was the process of getting it actually actually deployed to CI Jenkins I, oh okay,.

A

So there is no process for that. Unfortunately, but yeah. There is an instance.

A

Image of damaging configures code so effectively, this demo reflects configuration of staging salon in Los a it was specifically designed to run built, clogging and when a be broken and the hackathon say create a branch for Java relevant support.

A

So this branch actually includes the GDK 1011 images, and if you want to test the script, there are guidelines how to actually tested it so developing a pipeline libraries. So you can pass your local location of the pipeline library and run with it.

B

Yeah I guess this is what will be used at a hackathon and it's where we, where we develop that. So when we saw you're confident about a fix. So can we just ask Tyler to merge this and deploy it.

A

Technically, I can do that so I'll review it today. Yeah.

C

A

Did some initial testing it seems to be working for me, fine, so yeah.

A

If you, the cool request, yeah technically I and roller currently maintain ups, so we just do it.

B

Right this will permit to actually test individual plugins against Java 11 mm-hmm.

A

Yeah right so even now we can technically do that, but it requests some hugs, so we will be required.

A

We're running code try and beat it. Finally, we do wait.

A

We come again, so it's already big and the meeting schedule, but it should be fine, so this patch already allows running good, but we need to somehow support both versions and here what Oliver implemented in this pull request, so yeah I believe it can be merged right now, but yeah double check and then provide review feedback. It.

B

Would be great I guess there is a whitespace ignoring if there is not all that scary and yeah. One thing I'd like to do is just add some documentation, so people can discover it and find how this is something I haven't done for now and I'm. Taking the action item you.

A

Know: okay, so.

A

Generally, this pull request is also in the list of block ups for a J in Jenkins weekend, so we should get it over the fence.

A

Yeah mmm so I believe, that's it. So we have some tasks. We definitely need to do to get all the stories over the fence.

A

Then we yeah I believe that we will need to do all of that.

A

Ramon, do you have any questions about these tasks, so maybe we could clarify some things together.

C

Questions about this desk, you.

A

C

Because I have no too much context about the 88, so I will need some help with this, perhaps after the meeting and I can sing with you or even with crowd. That knows a lot about ith to try to help me because now.

A

C

Feel a big loss: okay,.

A

And so, let's sync up after the meeting and yeah what would be the best channel force to communicate? Is it RC or guitar.

A

Oliver, what do you prefer well.

B

I, don't feel strongly I'm not yet on Gator. So maybe that's something. I'll have to do.

A

Okay, so let's just use think it's been.

A

A

B

That was certainly work. I understand. There is quite a lot of you managed to cover real, like I, mean I sort of envy Oh, like that, he managed to understand all that and keep track of all this. So definitely Oh like thank you for bringing it all this effort mm-hmm, because I have no idea. How would it work without you? I do quite a lot to cover. So perhaps oh you guys, if we I, don't know narrow the scope where you know where you can actually go.

B

A

So we will give you these tusks and try to break them down somehow. So there are many people on this call and yeah. Let's see how we can organize together: okay, yeah yeah thanks a lot for doing all this work with acceptance test harness yeah, it should really help and yeah. This think we also paint a bit of course, okay, and do we have anything else to discuss for now.

B

I'm afraid we don't just one single question: do we have a lot for this.

A

Follow-Up meeting yeah, so they believe everybody needs to stomach the information a bit. So let's try doing something next week, but I'm not sure. Do you have any preferences about the date.

B

Which at a similar time, works for me almost every day? Oh, that's cool.

A

So yeah probably we could just set the sink up, maybe even Oh, on Monday or Tuesday to review it. Each test run results together. Yes,.

C

They were okay.

A

So Tuesday it is then, so it will just help us to understand, what's left on the quality side of it or maybe even Wednesday, because I would also like to involve Kevin it's one of engineers, working with test automation and test quality, of course, but yeah, maybe Tuesday or Wednesday, most likely. We will need to rerun ETH with pipeline clocks by this time so but yeah. If we do that, there should be some information for discussion right.

A

Okay, so I'll set a meeting to Tuesday and then yeah. Let's see whether we need motion but yeah in general. What we'll try to keep these meetings shot? Sorry for running over time and this meeting.

A

Okay, so thanks a lot to you guys I will stop the recording : no and yep. Thanks again thanks Oliver Ramone adren, you very.

B