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Building & Grounds Committee Meeting 12/15/2022 9:00am
A
B
A
Calling
for
some
public
comment,
any
public
comments
this
morning,
one
more
time
any
public
comments:
okay,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
approval
of
minutes
which
we
have
none
yet
next
month
we
will
have
some
minutes
to
approve
and
we're
going
to
move
over
to
committee
project
updates
and
overview.
We
have
a
wonderful
PowerPoint
presentation
this
morning
for
you
to
get
an
idea
of
where
the
county
is
heading
with
the
buildings,
the
courthouse,
the
jail,
different
projects
that
we
have
going
on.
A
It's
going
to
be
a
very
busy
committee,
and
we
want
to
share
the
plans
with
you
this
morning
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Kelly
to
start
the
PowerPoint,
okay,
okay.
So
this
is
the
PowerPoint
that
Wes
and
Andy
have
put
together
of
everything.
That's
going
on.
You've
got
it
from
there:
okay,
good!
So.
C
Some
new
faces
in
the
room-
my
name
is
Wes
Andrews
I'm.
The
maintenance
director
here
for
the
county
in
May
of
this
year
will
be
my
five
year
anniversary
doesn't
seem
like
I've,
been
here
quite
that
long,
but
indeed,
I
have
the
building's
under
my
jurisdiction
are
the
courthouse
one
189
in
Associated
Lots,
which
is
where
we
are
right
now.
The
old
vac
building,
which
is
immediately
north
of
here
on
Skyler,
the
regional
Office
of
Education
I.
C
Don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
do
with
that,
but
we
we
do
have
responsibilities
out
there.
That
are,
you
know
really
outside
of
my
department.
C
Excuse
me
they
have
questions
from
time
to
time
and
I
try
to
help
them
out
as
much
as
I
can
with
any
questions
or
issues
that
they
may
have
at
their
facility.
The
Bukowski
Public
Safety
Center,
which
is
south
of
town,
the
the
old
in
new
jail.
So
the
old
jail
would
be
on
Merchant
right
over
here.
The
new
jails
Jerome
Combs
again,
which
is
south
of
town
and
attached
to
the
public
safety
center,
the
coroners
morgue,
the
highway
department
properties,
much
like
the
Office
of
Education
I.
C
Don't
do
much
with
the
highway
department,
but
if
they
do
have
issues
or
questions
you
know
we
will
assist
them
animal
control
and
the
Annex
Building,
which
is
next
to
the
old
jail
on
Merchant
in
Kankakee,
the
annex
houses,
probation
and
the
public
defender,
my
staff.
We
have
five
custodians
on
staff.
C
We
have
six
mechanics,
we
have
one
Courier
2023
budget
will
be
993
thousand
dollars
and
the
reporting
structure
for
myself
is
reporting
duties
to
the
the
chairman
and
the
sheriff,
both
monthly
updates,
which
we're
going
to
have
one
here
in
a
few
minutes.
But
what
my
monthly
updates
will
entail
is
basically
a
rundown
of
189,
the
courthouse,
the
annex,
the
old
jail
Jerome
columns,
Public
Safety
in
the
morgue,
so
anything
and
everything
that's
going
on
in
those
buildings
I
try
to
give
everyone
as
much
information
as
possible.
C
What's
going
on
in
each
of
those
facilities,
so
Animal
Control,
some
of
you
may
know,
there's
a
new
Bourbonnais
location.
That's
in
the
works!
I!
Don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
do
with
that.
Right
now,
I
mean
I,
helped
them
out
with
maintenance
related
issues.
A
lot
of
the
new
building
design
and
things
of
that
nature
are
being
handled
by
chairman
wheeler
and
Carrie
Laird
who's,
the
Animal
Control
director,
but,
as
you
can
see,
the
building
and
land
sale
have
been
completed.
The
zoning
and
bond
is
completed
as
well.
C
They're
working
on
Final
designs
right
now,
Andy
anything
else.
You
want
to
add
on
Animal
Control.
D
C
Yeah,
it's
it's
in
bad
shape.
We
do
get
a
lot
of
requests
for
miscellaneous
repairs
and
obviously
there's
you
know
for
the
new
facility.
I
think
it's
important
to
mention
that
no
local
property
taxes
were
used
to
pay
for
the
project.
So
that's
worth
noting
and.
A
If
you
haven't
been
to
the
Animal
Control
building
over
on
Grinnell
Road
it
it
really,
it
will
shock
you.
There
is
such
a
need
to
provide
not
only
the
staff
but
the
animals
with
the
structure.
That's
a
little
bit
more
safe
for
them.
C
So
that's
a
photo
or
a
rendering
rather
of
the
new
facility.
Obviously,
if
you've
been
by
there,
that's
on
Mooney
Drive
in
in
Bourbonnais
where's
that
Bradley
Bourbonnais.
C
So
you
can
get
a
feel
for
the
the
addition
that's
going
to
be
put
on
for
the
garage
which
is
going
to
be
to
the
just
left
of
the
front
building
and
then
in
the
back
you're
going
to
have
runs
and
play
areas
Recreation
areas
for
the
for
the
animals
there
at
the
animal
control.
But
we
will
do
all
the
maintenance
on
the
grounds.
So
we
started
cutting
the
grass
and
taking
care
of
the
grounds
back
this
summer
when
the
building
was
purchased
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that.
Moving
forward
could.
A
I
just
add
on
a
few
things
about
the
building
itself.
It's
going
to
be
wonderful,
because,
right
now
we
have
animal
on
top
of
animal
and
it's
in
a
very
crowded
environment.
What
we
we're
going
to
design
then
will
be
an
area
for
healthy
cats
and
separate
the
sick
cats
from
the
healthy
cats
and
as
well
as
the
dogs,
will
be
the
healthy
dogs
and
then
a
place
to
treat
the
sick
dogs.
A
The
neat
thing
about
that
at
the
back,
where
you
see
the
playgrounds
that
there's
going
to
be
like
Guillotine
doors,
that's
going
to
raise
and
the
dogs
can
just
run
out
there
right
into
the
play
yard
and
do
some
romping
around
and
get
some
really
good
exercise
right
now,
there's
really
no
place
for
them
to
to
get
some
healthy
exercise
and
the
bigger
dogs
really
need
that,
and
as
well
as
someone
who
wants
to
adopt
a
dog,
they
can
take
the
dog
out
to
the
playground
and
kind
of
see
if
it's
going
to
fit
with
their
family
or
not.
A
But
there's
going
to
be
a
place
for
the
employees
to
actually
have
lunch
and
whatever.
But
there's
not
going
to
be
where
they're
taking
care
of
dead
cats
or
decapitate
decapitating.
They
have
to
send
them
to
the
lab
or
whatever,
which
is
not
a
safe
environment
for
the
employees.
But
it's
going
to
be
designed.
It's
going
to
be
a
state
of
the
art.
It's
going
to
be
wonderful
at
no
taxpayer
dollar.
This
is
something
that
is
needed.
A
C
Okay,
Courthouse
basement.
Obviously,
work
is
underway,
we're
estimating
completion
sometime
in
March.
There
are
some
lead
time
issues
on
the
doors,
so
I
discussed
this
with
the
chairman
the
other
day.
We
should
be
pretty
well
wrapped
in
March,
but
any
any
office,
that's
getting
a
new
door.
Those
won't
be
in
until
May.
We've
looked
at
other
vendors,
we're
looking
at
about
anywhere
from
ten
to
fifteen
thousand
dollars
in
additional
expense
to
go
with
a
different
vendor
to
get
the
doors
here
in
time
for
March.
C
So
that's
something
that
I
don't
think
it's
money
well
spent,
especially
with
a
lot
of
the
other
issues
that
we've
uncovered,
which
we'll
talk
about
here
in
a
little
bit.
So
some
highlights
of
the
project.
Expansion
of
jury
assembly
is
probably
the
most
notable
if
anybody's
ever
served
on
a
jury.
You
know
how
cramped
it
is
in
the
in
in
the
basement,
so
the
expansion
is
going
to
be
significant.
There
will
be
areas
to
charge
cell
phones
to
charge
laptops.
C
There
will
be
cell
phone
lockers
there'll
be
laptop
lockers
it'll,
be
it'll,
be
very
nice
and
comfortable
for
for
any
jurors.
Once
we
get
the
project
completed,
we're
creating
a
secure
holding
room
for
any
of
the
inmates
in
the
Courthouse
for
their
safety
and
obviously
for
the
safety
of
the
public
as
well.
The
cafeteria
is
expanding,
we're
creating
office
areas
for
the
circuit
clerk,
there's
going
to
be
14
workstations
in
that
area,
also
a
creation
of
a
secure
access
point
in
the
basement.
C
So
right
now
everyone
with
the
exception
of
any
handicapped
individuals
that
would
be
using
the
basement
ramp
enter
through
the
front
door.
So
that's
jurors!
That's
everybody
goes
through
the
front
door
after
the
completion
of
the
project.
You'll
have
the
jurors
now
entering
through
the
basement,
access
and
then
they'll
go
through
the
security
checkpoint,
and
then
they
can
go
right
into
the
jury
assembly
area.
So
that'll
alleviate
some
of
the
congestion
in
the
mornings.
At
the
front
door,
HVAC
upgrades
will
be
considerable.
There's
been
we're,
gonna
have
to
purchase
a
few
different
furnaces.
C
The
ones
we
had
were
not
adequate
and
then
we're
also
adding
several
bathrooms
in
the
basement
as
well.
So
we'll
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
so
that's
a
floor
plan.
It's
going
to
be
hard
to
really,
you
know,
see
a
whole
lot
on
this,
but
in
the
I
would
call
it
the
top
right
hand
corner.
You
can
see
those
are
a
bunch
of
workstations,
that's
going
to
be
used
by
the
circuit
clerk
immediately
below
that
is
going
to
be
the
cafeteria
area.
C
You
can
see
the
tables
kind
of
the
circles
listed
there
on
the
on
the
drawing
and
then
going
all
the
way
over
to
the
left
side.
The
top
left
would
be
jury
assembly,
so
jury
assembly
will
flow
from
the
top
left
of
the
drawing
down.
You
know
underneath
that,
and
then
it's
also
going
to
flow
to
the
right
as
well.
So
jury
assembly
is
almost
going
to
not
quite
double,
but
nearly
double
in
size,
so
that'll
be
a
a
very
large
benefit
and.
C
Check
in
that's
great-
that's
great
so
next
slide,
please
so
I've
got
some
photos
here,
so
some
of
them
are
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
the
status
of
the
project.
So
you
can
see
the
new
hallway.
That's
been
constructed
there
on
the
left.
That's
going
to
go
into
the
circuit
clerk's
office
area,
which
is
on
the
right.
So
you
can
get
a
feel
for
I
mean
this
area
three
months
ago
was
literally
stocked
floor
to
ceiling
with
files.
C
Every
square
inch
I
mean
there's
little
walkways,
so
just
the
amount
of
work
that
it
took
by
Sandy
and
my
staff
to
get
ready
to
get
to
this
point
was
substantial,
so
you
can
see
the
the
metal
framing.
You
can
see
the
new
ductwork
that's
been
put
in.
You
can
see
the
drywall
that's
been
hung,
that's
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
where
we're
at
right.
Now,
that's
again
in
the
circuit
clerk's
office
area.
C
Looking
to
the
north,
that's
on
the
left
is
going
to
be
the
security
area
you're
going
to
come
through
that
door.
Those
two
double
Brown
doors
that
you
see
there
still
need
to
come
out,
but
that'll
be
the
new
security
area.
When
you
come
in
the
picture
on
the
right
is
the
expanded
cafeteria
area
in
the
back
of
the
cafeteria
there,
where
you
see
that
light
hanging,
that
was
our
evidence
storage.
C
C
So,
if
anybody's
familiar
with
the
basement,
that
goes
all
the
way
to
cafeteria
and
then
the
elevator
is
down
there
on
the
right
when
you
go
into
the
basement,
so
that
is
probably
I
would
guess,
60
to
70
feet
of
saw
cutting
that
had
to
happen
to
get
to
make
that
run,
and
the
issue
was
the
cafeteria
kitchenette
was
not
plumbed
correctly,
so
there
were
some
things
that
we
uncovered
and
to
get
it
plumbed
correctly,
we
had
to
cut
that
trench
all
the
way
over
there
to
put
in
the
plumbing
correctly,
which
was
a
surprise.
C
C
A
C
So
speaking
of
surprises,
this
was
a
surprise.
I
was
not
aware
of
this
18
80,
maybe
1850
I
I'm,
not
sure
the
there
was
a
Old
Courthouse
that
sat
at
this
location
and
when
they
were
removing
the
saw
or
removing
the
concrete.
After
the
saw
cut
you
can
see
in
the
middle
picture
you
see
where
the
x
that
orange
x
is
in
the
trench
right
there,
that's
the
old
courthouse
and
what
they
did
was
when
the
Old
Courthouse
I
guess
burnt
down.
C
So
what
we
have
now
is,
like
I,
told
you
we're
going
to
be
running
sanitary
sewer
from
the
cafeteria
and
that
sanitary
sewer
has
got
to
go
through
that
middle
photo
with
the
x
that
footing.
That's
that's,
probably
three
feet
wide:
a
pretty
substantial
footing,
but
nowhere
near
as
large
as
the
picture
on
the
right.
So
that
is
solid,
concrete,
probably
four
foot,
probably
five
foot
wide
and
we
have
to
get
through
that
concrete.
That's
where
you
see
all
the
orange
markings.
C
So
we
need
to
saw
cut
that
get
through
that
and
go
the
next
slide
here.
Kelly,
oh
I,
guess
not
go
back.
I
thought
I
had
one
more,
but
going
back
into
that
room
is
where
the
drain
connection
is.
So
we
need
to
get
through
that
concrete
into
that
room
through
another
piece.
That's
the
same
size
and
tie
into
the
sanitary
sewer.
So
that
was
a
surprise,
something
that
we
uncovered.
C
It's
undoubtedly
going
to
add
expense
to
the
project
we
I
met
with
Andy
the
other
day
and
we
we
knocked
done
wood
because
we
had
did
have
some
overages,
but
we
thought
we
had
probably
seen
them
all
well.
This
was
something
that
reared
its
ugly
head
yesterday.
So
any
questions
on
the
basement
or
anything
that
we've
been
we've
discussed.
C
I
think
this
is
Andy
right,
yeah.
D
Mr
Wheeler,
so
we
we
received
a
700
000,
Grant
I,
think
it
was
a
D.O.T
Grant,
I
believe
Ben's
here,
but
I
believe
his
DOT
Grant,
regardless
for
a
bus,
barn
show
bus
is
basically
that's
us.
We
are
World
County
Transit
as
show
bus,
and
we
had
the
opportunity
to
acquire
and
Target
a
location,
so
we're
looking
at
a
location.
We
found
one,
we
think
we're
working
with
white
and
Company.
D
You
know
there
should
be
an
eye
in
their
white
and
Company
and
the
developer
for
a
site
plan.
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
you
know:
do
this
as
a
design
build
TurnKey
project
where
all
the
you
have
to
have
triple
basins
because
of
oil
runoff,
and
things
like
that,
if
it's
an
indoor,
so
we
we
figure
it's
better
and
cheaper.
If
we
get
a
turnkey
project
done
and
here's
the
building
here,
it's
ready
to
go
rather
than
bidding
out
30
different
pieces
of
this
at
once.
D
So
we're
going
down
that
road,
but
it
looks
like
we'll
be
able
to
fit
it
in
that
700
000
envelope,
so
it'll
be,
as
you
know,
no
local
money.
If
you
will
to
have
this
Bus
Barn
here
in
downtown
Kankakee,
so
it'll
be
good.
It's
not
a
Transit
place
like
Metro
bus
over
here.
It's
just
a
place
for
them
to
house
them
and
things
like
that,
but
it
does
bring
some
efficiencies
to
bear.
D
Okay,
especially
where
those
two
systems
link
up.
You
know
people
could
in
Theory
come
into
downtown
and
get
everywhere
else
on
River
Valley,
Metro
and
then
come
back
here
and
go
home.
So
it
should
be
a
good
addition
to
the
the
transit
system.
Absolutely.
A
Any
questions
for
Mr
Wheeler
about
the
bus,
barn.
C
Okay,
Andy:
do
you
want
to
do
this?
One
you
want
me
to
so
once
we
get
the
basement
project
wrapped.
The
next
order
of
business
is
going
to
be
into
the
circuit
clerk's
office.
If
anybody's
been
in
the
courthouse,
you
know
conducting
business
and
had
to
go
into
the
circuit
clerks
area.
It's
very
cramped
they're
on
top
of
each
other,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
room
in
there.
C
So
once
we
get
the
basement
completed
and
we
have
the
workstations
in
the
basement
we're
going
to
use
those
workstations,
at
least
temporarily,
to
house
some
people
in
the
circuit
clerk's
office.
So
then
we
can
move
into
there
and
do
some
Renovations
in
there
and
that's
going
to
be
mostly
Furniture
carpet.
Maybe
some
paint
should
not
be
very
substantial
in
cost
knock
on
wood,
but
that's
going
to
be.
We've
done
a
lot
of
other
Ada
Renovations
there
as
well.
I
guess
we'll
touch
on
those
briefly
courtroom.
C
204
had
a
considerable
amount
of
ADA
upgrades
in
there.
The
basement
ramp
had
a
lot
of
ADA
upgrades
and
I
feel
like
we're
getting
pretty
close,
and
this
should
be
maybe
one
of
the
last
areas
that
we
have
to
look
at
whenever
with
regard
to
any
kind
of
ADA
concerns
at
the
courthouse.
So
anything
else
Andy,
you
want
to
elaborate
on
you.
D
Did
touch
on
that,
but
it
is
part
of
the
ongoing
transition
plan
that
we've
we've
already
taken
care
of
those
date.
Certain
things,
those
things
that
the
Attorney
General
said
you
have
to
have
this
done
by
X
date,
right
the
critical
things
to
allow
people
that
are
either
jurors
or
they
want
to
serve
on
the
jury.
They're
defendants
or
you
know,
prosecutors,
now
we're
moving
into
people
that
work
in
the
courthouse,
because
the
the
Sandy's
office
is
an
ADA
Compliant
through
no
fault
of
hers.
D
It's
just
that's
where
the
desks
are
all
stacked
up
and
you
can't
get
an
assisting
device
through
the
the
aisles
there.
So
we
have
to
address
it
and
it's
not
date
certain.
But
right
now
we
have
the
ability
to
use
arpa
money
for
infrastructure
needs,
so
the
time
to
address
is
now
I
think
and
so
we're
going
to
get
that
costs
together,
hopefully
in
q323,
and
then
we
bid
build
24.
so
we'll
see
how
things
line
up,
but
that's
tentatively,
what
we're
looking
at.
C
So
the
courthouse
lawn
project
and
Andy-
you
can
help
me
on
this.
One
too,
if
you
like,
we've
lost
a
lot
of
trees
over
the
last
five
years
since
I've
been
here,
I
have
I
had
to
guess
I'd
say:
we've
lost
seven
or
eight
trees
at
the
courthouse,
just
due
to
storms
and
wind,
so
I
had
reached
out
to
Chairman
wheeler
a
while
back
he'd
put
me
in
touch
with
the
Historical
Society
I've
had
some
preliminary
conversations
with
them
as
to
you
know,
what's
the
plan,
what
do
we
want
to
do?
C
Is
there
a
historical
type
plan?
That's
out
there
that
we'd
kind
of
like
to
recreate.
Do
we
want
to
do
something
completely
different,
but
just
trying
to
look
ahead-
and
you
know,
do
what's
prudent
with
the
you
know
when
we're
losing
these
trees
I
would
think
we
would
want
to
replace
them
with
with
something.
C
So
that's
that's.
Where
we're
at
right
now,
I
did
speak
with
the
Historical
Society.
They
didn't
sound
like
they
had
a
whole
lot
of
input.
They
talked
a
little
bit
with
a
local
landscaper
but
I
kind
of
feel
like
it's
kind
of
it.
It's
back
on
my
plate
now
hour
plate
as
to
you
know
what
we
want
to
do
with
the
Courthouse
lawn.
D
So
it
seemed
to
me
that
that
we
could
consider
you
know
engaging
with
a
landscape
architect
on
a
Professional
Services
basis.
D
You
know
pick
somebody
put
I
could
out
like
a
you
know,
RFQ
request
for
qualifications
for
Landscape
Architects
and
then
pick
one
of
those
and
have
them
kind
of
give
us
some
proposals
that
that
would,
as
it
says,
up
there
for
the
front
and
the
back
with
deference
to
the
historic
layout
and
then
of
the
property
to
enhance
the
property
and
not
I,
don't
just
want
to
plant
a
bunch
of
trees,
and
then
it
covers
up
the
courthouse.
D
No,
you
know
I,
don't
put
a
bunch
of
trees
out
there
that
are
dropping
acorns
and
pine
cones
and
stuff
all
over
the
place.
You
know
the
helicopters
to
where
it's
a
mess
for
Wes's
people
to
clean
up
all
the
time
you
know.
So
we
want
to
do
it
right,
but
also
highlight
the
courthouse
rather
than
just
drop
a
bunch
of
trees
where
the
other
one
stood
right.
You.
D
B
A
E
E
Would
it
be
nice
to
have
something
paved
because,
as
as
a
woman,
your
heel
goes
into
that
grass
pretty
good,
but
does
something
to
have
it
where,
if
there's
an
event,
there's
concrete
or
pavers
or
something
and
I
haven't
been
to
the
courthouse
in
a
long
time
in
regards
to
something
like
that.
But
when
we
do
a
plan,
would
it
be
wise
to
have
something
like
that?
Or
is
there
already
something
sorry
I.
C
Mean
it
could
I
mean
the
the
fire
and
police
memorials
are
probably
our
you
know
most
well-attended
events
at
the
at
the
courthouse,
that's
possible.
You
know
if
a
landscape
designer
wanted
to
add
add
something
like
that
in
those
areas,
I
I,
suppose
that
would
make
sense
at
what
cost
you'll
learn,
as
you
spend
time
here
that
you
know
cost
is
always
a
concern
so
yeah,
but
definitely
a
good
point.
C
So
the
old
vac
that's
going
to
be
the
building
immediately
north
of
this
one,
we've
been
using
it.
Obviously,
it's
the
old
vac
for
a
reason,
that's
where
they
were
housed
before
they
moved
into
the
fourth
floor
here
in
this
building
and
have
since
moved
on
yet
again
so
we're
looking
at
so
there's
interest
from
the
State's
Attorney's
office
to
utilize.
The
space
I
took
them
through
the
space.
Last
week.
We
do
have
some
leaks
in
that
building.
You
can
see.
C
I
have
an
older
estimate
for
forty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
Tuck,
pointing
that's
needed
on
the
rear
of
the
building.
That's
where
we're
getting
the
water
in
I
do
have
another
bit
that
I
receive
that's
substantially
lower
than
that.
So
that's
good
news.
So
that's
something
that
I'm
working
on
right
now
to
see
if
we
can
get
the
building
water
tight,
so
the
Sao
can
use
that
space.
So
I'm
working
on
that
right
now,
very.
B
D
Yeah
we're
looking
at
some
other
arpa
projects
at
this
point
right
now,
we're
we're
I'm
in
the
process
of
talking
to
to
legislators
and
other
folks
who
can
help
Lobby
to
get
us
added
to
a
bill.
It's
not
a
bill.
It's
actually
Public
Act
that
already
exists.
D
Will
County
did
this
to
start
with,
but
they
collect
a
fee
at
the
courthouse
for
court
infrastructure
improvements
only
to
be
used
in
conjunction
between
the
County
Board
and
the
chief
judge
both
have
to
concur
on
the
use
of
that
that
money,
but
it's
only
for
court
infrastructure
like
buildings
courtrooms
the
things
that
we're
doing.
Okay,
Will
County
started
this.
It's
a
Public
Act,
that's
how
they
built
their
new
courthouse.
They
collected
the
fee,
but
then
also
McHenry,
County
and
Kendall.
County
have
also
jumped
on
that
as
well.
D
Last
legislative
session
Kendall
got
on
we're
going
to
ask
to
get
on
it
this
legislative
session,
so
we
can
start
collecting
the
fee,
which
becomes
an
alternate
Revenue
source
to
where
we
don't
have
to
use
taxpayer
money.
We
can
Bond
against
the
revenue
from
those
fees
and
hopefully
start
to
assess
how
much
that
would
give
us
to
look
at
those
other
projects
that
we've
talked
about.
You
know
we
don't
this
community
can't
afford
and
we've
been
down
this
road
of
190
million
dollar
Courthouse
expansion.
That's
just
not
going
to
happen!
D
We're
not
talking
about
that.
But
can
we
get
to
a
place
that
we
can
have
a
functioning
court
system
where
we're
going
to
be
adding
judges?
You
know
this
last
census.
Wasn't
it
probably
wasn't
a
decline?
It
was
probably
an
increase,
but
we
just
had
a
bad
count
in
10
years.
We're
gonna
have
more
judges
10
years
after
that,
they'll
probably
have
another
judge.
So
how
are
we
going
to
address
the
next
50
years
without
asking
the
taxpayers
to
do
so?
Well,
the
combination
of
coven
money
and
a
bill
like
this.
D
We
might
be
able
to
get
something
done
down
there
for
in
a
lot
less
than
190
million
a
lot
less
than
I,
think
10
million
okay,
but
I
think
we
can
do
something
that
will
set
the
county
up
for
the
next
50
years.
As
far
as
courts,
then
we
can
move
on
to
other
stuff.
So
that's
we're
just
going
to
explore
that
we're
going
to
kick
the
tires.
D
If
we
can
get
this,
it
would
make
it
so
we
could
do
it
more
expansively
and
more
long
term,
but
we
may
have
to
if
this
doesn't
work.
You
know
if
you've
noticed
the
state
doesn't
necessarily
want
to
collect
money
from
people
who
commit
crimes
anymore.
So
you
know
it's
the
I
don't
know
if
we're
gonna
be
met.
Like
Kendall
County
was
last
session,
where
it
was
sure
yeah
we'll
go
ahead
and
add
you
to
this
I,
don't
know
if
we'll
get
that
same
difference
so
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
D
But
then
we
also
need
a
capital
plan
that
we
have
to
craft
to
coordinate
with
our
space
needs
assessment,
so
the
capital
plan
is
it
refers
to
our
projects,
our
buildings.
What
do
we
see?
You
know?
We've
got
A
needs
assessment
on
how
many
people
work
here
with
the
size
of
the
offices
need
to
be
blah,
blah
blah.
We
went
through
that
process.
The
next
step
in
that
is
the
capital
plan.
Then
you
have
something
when
you're
going
out
for
the
ask
to
to
measure
against.
D
So
if
we
want
a
courthouse,
not
a
courthouse
expansion
but
maybe
off-site
courtrooms,
maybe
something
else
along
those
lines
it
has
to
be
in
a
capital
plan.
So
that's
where
we
come
in
is:
do
we
want
to
go
down
that
road
right
now
and
then
develop
that
Capital
plan
and
have
something
to
work
against
much
like
a
strategic
plan
for
the
next
20
years.
So
that's
about
there's
more
to
come
on
that,
but
right
now
we're
just
trying
to
assess
what
those
opportunities
are.
What
other
funding
mechanisms
do?
D
We
have
Beyond
the
taxpayers
here
locally
well,.
A
D
The
traffic
call
is
the
big,
the
big
call.
Yes,
if
you're
able
to
get
traffic
mitigated
somehow,
then
that
relieves
a
lot
of
the
pressure
on
the
courthouse.
It's
a
different
world,
then
you
can't
always
you
know
if
you
got
what
10
courtrooms
and
11
judges,
even
though
we
don't
have
that
anymore.
We're
going
to
have
that
again,
you
know
and
that
problem
then
we'll
have
12
judges
in
10
courtrooms.
We
got
to
start
thinking
ahead,
a.
C
Okay,
all
right
I
think
that's
it
so
we'll
move
on
now
to
what
I'll
do
on
a
monthly
basis
facility
dude
report
I'm,
not
the
facility
dude.
That's
the
software
system
that
we
use.
It's
called
facility
dude,
so
I,
don't
know
why,
but
so
anyway,
and
what
we
do
with
the
software
system
is
all
of
the
buildings
and
all
the
employees
in
the
buildings
not
all
but
most
have
access
to
the
software
and
then
when
issues
arise
in
the
building.
C
If
it's
you
know,
if
we're
out
of
toilet
paper,
if
we
have
a
leak,
if
we
have
you
know
whatever
needs
to
be
attended
to
those
individuals
can
go
into
facility,
do
they
can
put
the
work
order
in
it?
Comes
it
gets
into
the
system,
I
see
it,
I
assign
it
to
the
appropriate
individual.
So
last
month
we
had
182
work
orders
in
the
system,
which
is
a
which
is
substantial.
It's
a
busy
month.
C
Moving
on
to
the
financial
report,
for
those
of
you
that
have
been
around
nothing
really
new
here,
you
can
look
at
the
line
items
there.
87
510
is
the
line
item
that
we
talk
about.
Every
meeting
you
can
see,
there's
173
000
worth
of
expense
there,
and
a
lot
of
that
was
arpa,
related
expenditures
that
were
going
to
be
moved
out
of
my
budget,
but
yet
we'll.
But
now
we're
not
they're
going
to
remain
so
I'm
going
to
be
over
budget.
Don't
hold
that
against
me,
please.
C
You
can
see
substantial
costs
in
in
fuel
this
year,
with
fuel
prices
going
up
even
in
miscellaneous
supplies,
24
000
last
year
versus
31
000
this
year,
that's
part
and
part
due
to
obviously
the
increased
cost
for
a
lot
of
the
materials
that
we
that
we
purchase.
56
400
is
Service
Repairs
by
outside
contractors.
You
can
see
it
was
132.
Last
year,
143
this
year,
maintenance
contracts.
C
We
had
a
budget
of
116,
we
ended
at
17
8,
so
I'll
have
to
look
and
see
where
why
I
ran
over
a
little
bit
there,
but
that's
basically
it
end
of
the
year
at
roughly
1.2
million
versus
just
over
1
million
the
previous
year.
So
any
questions
on
that.
D
Thank
you
just
just
more
of
a
comment
we
for
the
new
members.
You
know
it's.
It's
Wes
and
I
have
regular
conversations
almost
daily
because
we
we
try
to
live
in
frugality,
you
know,
but
we
also
don't
ignore
preventative
maintenance.
It
costs
more
to
fix
it
after
it's
broken,
it
does
sometimes
to
do
the
PM
on
the
way,
but
much
like
autopsies
with
the
coroner's
office.
You
really
never
know
what,
from
year
to
year,
what's
going
to
fly
apart,
so
I
hope.
The
committee
has
a
little
bit
of
understanding
with
Wes's
budget.
D
Why
we
do
got
to
keep
it
around
that
number
there's
just
no.
When
you
lose
a
HVAC
unit
or
you
lose
a
you
know
something
that
controls
all
the
doors
at
the
jail
you
got
to
fix
it.
You
know
I
mean
you
just
can't
Band-Aid
those
things
you
know
so
it's.
He
is
somewhat
at
the
whims
of
the
electro
electric
electrical
Electric
electrical
and
mechanical
Gods.
If
you
will-
and
whatever
happens,
happens
so
and.
C
My
budget
has
zero
dollars
in
it
for
any
type
of
improvements.
Really
yeah
I
mean
my
budget
basically
will
take
care
of
most
of
the
repairs
that
are
needed
on
a
yearly
basis,
if
there's
any
type
of
equipment
replacement.
If
there's
anything
like
that,
there's
no,
it's
not
in
the
budget.
There's
there's
nothing
in
there
for
that.
So
just
know
that
moving
forward.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
that
and
Wes.
We
never
know
inflation
gas
prices
working
around
a
budget
with
any
change
in
that
is
always
going
to
be
an
issue
with
every
Department
in
the
county
right
now.
So
we're
watching
keeping
an
eye
on
that
as
well.
Exactly.
C
C
Here
at
189,
many
of
you
are
aware
we
just
approved
a
three-year
contract
with
the
teamsters
for
the
employees
in
my
department.
So
that's
always
good
news.
C
Looking
like
we
got
that
completed,
we're
like
I
mentioned
working
with
Andy
and
Mr
Rowe
on
the
tuck,
pointing
of
the
old
vac
we
do
have
about
I
think
it
was
four
or
five
thousand
dollars
in
expense.
The
roof
hatch.
Here
at
189.,
you
go
up
to
the
fifth
floor
or
sixth
floor
going
to
State's
Attorney's
Office.
You
can
get
up
to
the
roof
that
hatch
actually
blew
off
about
a
month
ago.
I
got
a
call
from
forget.
C
Maybe
it
was
Dan
that
actually
called
me
said:
something's
banging
up
there,
so
I
had
my
guy
come
in,
he
looked
at
it
and
it
broke.
It
was
just
flipping
and
banging
in
the
wind,
so
we're
going
to
replace
the
roof.
Hatch,
we're
also
going
to
install
so
code
required
railing
up
there
as
well
around
the
roof
hatch.
So
that's
they
should
be
started
on
that
today,
at
the
courthouse
we
already
went
through
the
basement
project
and
its
status.
All
the
color
selections
have
been
made,
so
we
got
with
our
architect.
C
We
got
with
Lori
Wolfe
chief
judge,
cunnington
and
Sandy
went
with
a
lot
of
Earth
Tones
that'll
match.
You
know
some
of
the
other
renovated
areas
like
the
bathrooms.
On
the
first
floor,
so
it'll
match
and
it'll
be
consistent
with
any
of
the
repairs
or
improvements
you,
if
you
will
that
we've
done
over
the
last
several
years,
still
working
on
getting
Delta
controls
down
here
to
you
know
all
the
new
HVAC
fixtures
that
are
going
to
go
in
the
basement.
We
need
to
get
those
added
to
our
software.
C
That's
how
I
control
all
of
the
temperatures
in
the
building,
so
with
all
the
new
systems
down
there
we're
going
to
have
to
have
that
added
to
the
Delta
Control
software
that
I
use
over
there.
C
Currently
so
there's
going
to
be
probably
a
substantial
expense
to
to
modify
the
software
and
then
to
add
all
the
components
in
the
basement
that
I'm
going
to
need
to
adequately
adjust
the
HVAC
system
down
there
working
with
a
company
actually
two
on
basement
Furniture,
that's
going
to
be
in
addition
to
the
bid
price,
so
your
basement
Furniture
is
going
to
be
for
the
jury
assembly.
I
wanted
to
get
away
from
chairs
I
wanted
to
get
something
similar
in
concept.
C
If
you
will
and
I
think
the
chairman
agrees
to
what
you
see
in
airports,
something
with
some
seats,
maybe
even
seats
with
charging
capabilities
for
phones-
it's
I!
Guess
it's
really
going
to
boil
down
to
the
expense
you
know
and
what
that
looks
like.
So
when
we
get
those
numbers
together,
I'll
share
those
with
you
and
then
also
the
workstations
that
are
going
to
go
in
the
circuit
clerks
area.
There's
14
of
them.
So
we're
going
to
have
to
select
what
type
of
workstations
we
want.
C
There
I
don't
think
we're
going
with
cubicles,
but
something
rather
just
open
in
a
bullpen
if
you
will
type
environment
so
once
I
get
those
I'll
share.
Those
with
you
as
well
x-ray
machine
has
been
ordered,
that's
going
to
go
and
we
had
to
get
that
ordered
quickly
due
to
lead
time
issues.
C
So
that's
been
ordered
for
the
basement.
Security
checkpoint
had
about
four
to
five
thousand
dollars
in
expense.
On
lighting
for
the
Dome
the
old
contactor
went
out.
We
had
to
replace
it
because
the
lights
wouldn't
turn
off,
so
we
had
to
replace
that.
C
So
that's
an
ex
decent
size
expense
that
we've
had
very
large
expense
for
the
new
members
on
the
committee.
Our
Chiller
system
at
the
annex
went
down.
That's
how
we
cool
the
building
and
the
warm
months.
I.
Don't
remember
the
exact
price,
I
guess
my
memory
as
I
get
older.
It's
not
what
it
once
was
substantial
I
want
to
say
it
was:
is
it
75
000
around
75
000,
that
is
on
site?
It's
sitting
out
there?
C
So
if
you
want
to
take
a
drive
by
it,
looks
beautiful
we'll
get
that
hooked
up
here.
In
short
order,
so
that'll
be
ready
for
the
springtime
other
than
that
nothing
out
of
the
ordinary
to
report
at
the
old
jail,
a
lot
of
leaky,
faucets
and
showers.
Jerome
Combs
we've
had
many
issues
out
there.
C
Over
the
last
month,
we
have
a
new
two-door
cooler
coming
for
the
kitchen,
the
old
cooler
that
they
used
in
the
kitchen
and
the
doors
have
been
opened
and
shut
and
slammed
so
many
times
that
it's
been.
It's
been
caulked,
it's
been
screwed
and
basically
the
problem
is
any
humidity
that
gets
through
the
cracks
on
the
unit
freezes
up
the
for
it
just
freezes
it
up
like
a
black
ice
so
and
that's
something
that
the
corrections
actually
helped
us
out
with
the
expense
on
that.
C
So
thanks
a
bunch
to
Chad
and
the
sheriff
for
stepping
up
and
helping
me
with
the
with
the
expense
on
that
cooler,
it
was
not
cheap
about.
Eighteen
thousand
dollars
is
what
it
was.
Batteries.
We've
talked
about
at
this
committee.
There's
many
batteries
that
we
have
to
replace
on
our
ups
systems
out
there.
C
We
do
need
to
purchase
two
hot
water
storage
tanks.
Basically,
what
that
is?
It's
a
you
know
similar
to
your
water
heater
in
your
home.
These
are
huge,
several
hundred
gallon
hot
water
storage
tanks.
We
lost
one
of
them,
probably
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
just
due
to
age,
it's
18
years
old.
We
CR,
we
just
lost
another
one
two
weeks
ago,
so
I'm
working
with
a
vendor
right
now
on
pricing,
for
these
hot
water
storage,
tanks
that
are
going
to
have
to
be
replaced.
C
Also
for
2023
I've
been
working
with
corrections.
The
dishwasher,
much
like
the
building
is
18
or
19
years
old.
The
dishwasher
has
seen
better
days.
Parts
are
not
available
for
it.
I
had
it's
a
Hobart
dishwasher
I
had
Hobart
rep
come
out
to
see
what
we
could
do
as
far
as
parts
for
it
that
we
need,
and
he
just
simply
said
you
can't
get
them
he's
like
it's
an
18
19
year
old,
dishwasher
they're.
C
You
need
to
buy
a
new
one,
so
so
I'm
working
on
that
as
an
expense
for
2023
starting
to
get
some
numbers
together.
There
we've
talked
about
the
air
conditioner
and
the
public
safety
it
room,
that's
an
older
unit
and,
frankly,
not
the
best
unit,
something
that
probably
never
should
have
been
bought
or
installed,
and
it's
something
that
we
have
set
for
replacement.
It
was
seventeen
thousand
dollars,
and
we
talked
about
this
at
last
month's
committee,
but
I'll
reiterate
it.
C
The
it
room
out
at
Public
Safety
handles
all
the
communications
for
all
the
public
safety
people
in
the
county.
So
that's
a
very
important
room
and
it's
something
that
we
just
it
just
can't
happen.
The
air
conditioning
cannot
fail
in
that.
In
that
room
we
do
have
backups.
We
do
have
contingency
plans,
but
you
know
it's
just
something
that
that
needed
to
be
replaced,
and
that
was
seventeen
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
all
I
got
any
questions.
A
Today,
yes,
anxious
to
get
moving
on
all
these
big
projects-
okay,
we
don't
have
old
business.
Do
we.