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Kankakee County Board Meeting 8/14/2018 9:00 AM
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F
Am
from
connect
of
Kankakee
County?
It
is
our
belief
that
gathering
profit
from
the
bondage
of
another
human
being
is
not
consistent
with
the
ideals
of
individuals.
Tasks
was
serving
the
public.
This
inconsistency
is
because
profit
will
inevitably
be
put
ahead
of
the
people
they
are
tasked
to
serve.
We
already
see
examples
of
this.
For
example,
the
sheriff
has
stated
that
allowing
direct
contact
between
these
detainees
and
their
families
would
be
too
expensive.
F
Yet
the
county
indicated
it
is
profiting
from
the
experience
to
profit
from
the
bondage
of
another
is
more
consistent
with
the
role
of
a
slave
trader
than
with
the
role
of
a
public
servant.
It
is
not
acceptable
to
say
that
these
people
will
be
detained
somewhere,
so
we
might
as
well
do
it
here
to
do
so
is
an
act
of
moral
cowardice.
F
Servants
of
the
public
should
be
based
on
what
is
right
and
just
not
on
what
is
economically
expedient.
There
have
been
times
in
history
of
our
nation
that
the
laws
have
been
enacted
that
enabled
injustice.
We
believe
this
is
one
of
those
times
there
are.
There
have
been
times
in
our
history
that
the
will
of
the
people
was
ahead
of
the
law
of
the
land.
We
believe
that
this
is
one
of
these
times.
The
United
States
Department
of
Justice
issued
a
scathing
report
in
2016
regarding
treatment
and
care
of
individuals
in
for-profit
prisons.
F
The
profit
motive
was
the
connecting
thread
and
all
of
the
abuse
is
noted
in
this
report.
Kankakee
County
is
now
acting
as
a
de
facto
for-profit
prison
system,
so
it
is
inevitable
that
these
abuses
noted
in
that
report
will
eventually
be
present
in
our
County.
We
say
no
to
this.
The
modern
era
of
for-profit
prisons
began
in
1983
when
the
Corrections
Corporation
of
America
CCA
erected
a
facility
to
detain
immigrants
in
Houston
Texas
in
1983.
The
total
prison
population
in
the
United
States
was
around
400,000.
We
now
incarcerate
1.5
million
individuals
in
the
United
States.
F
This
is
evidence
that
the
profit
motive
only
leads
to
injustice
when
it
comes
to
incarceration,
so
the
two
must
be
separated
in
2016,
the
United
States
Department
of
Justice
ended
the
practice
of
holding
federal
prisoners
in
private
for-profit
facilities,
as
they
were,
deemed
less
safe
and
effective.
However,
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security
operates
separately
from
the
Department
of
Justice,
and
they
continue
with
this
practice
that
was
deemed
unacceptable
by
another
agency
of
our
government.
While
our
County
system
is
not
technically
a
for-profit
prison
system,
it
expected
it
is
effectively
operating
in
this
capacity.
F
The
sheriff
even
let
the
word
profit
slip
out
in
a
recent
daily
journal
quote
in
addition
to
our
rejection
of
for-profit
bondage
of
immigrants.
On
principle,
we
say
no
to
this
to
protect
Kinky's
immigrant
community,
a
population
that
has
contributed
to
the
vibrancy
of
our
neighborhoods
businesses,
churches
and
schools,
and
we
want
to
keep
and
cherish
that
we
say
no
to
this
morally
bankrupt
practice
of
prison
for
profit
and
a
man
that
Kankakee
County
and
this
practice
immediately.
G
Hello,
my
name
is
Mark
codec
I'm,
a
river
rat
I,
live
on
the
river
and
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
about
the
river.
No,
not
the
sand,
but
safety
of
the
river
we've
in
the
past
have
had
River
patrol
from
the
county
city
and
the
state
we
haven't
had
that
now
for
10
to
12
years
and
we
are
getting
a
little
out
of
control
and
I'd
asked
the
board.
I've
already
talked
to
mayor
wells,
McCulloch.
G
Excuse
me
Armstrong,
I'm,
sorry
at
the
board
meeting
and
I'm
asking
the
county
there.
Let's
get
the
three
entities,
the
state,
the
county
and
the
city,
to
just
put
out
some
type
of
patrols
out
there,
because
somebody's
going
to
get
hurt.
The
popularity
of
our
rivers
become
very,
very
useful
here.
The
sand
that
is
coming
down
is
making
some
beautiful
beaches
and
we're
bringing
a
lot
of
people
from
out
of
the
county
that
don't
know
the
rules.
G
There's
been
a
wake
zone,
that's
been
in
on
the
books
for
over
30
years,
and
it's
not
being
applied.
There's
bow
riding
on
boats,
there's
people
driving
boats
without
spotters,
etc,
etc.
I'm
not
asking
for
the
county
to
put
out
a
ticket
Bazar
out
there,
but
just
to
give
some
education
to
people.
So
we
don't
kill
somebody
on
this
river.
That's
all
I'm!
Looking
for
I,
it's
the
best
asset.
This
county
has
is
the
Kankakee
River
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
and
I'm
just
asking
for
a
little
safety
in
it.
Thank
you.
A
I
Morning,
I'm,
currently
the
mayor
of
moment'
names,
Charles,
Steele
and
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
the
solar
farm
that
the
city
has
actually
objected
to,
and
I
and
I
wrote
me
a
list
here
so
I'll
read
that
off
real
quick
I
said
first
off
I'd
like
to
express
I,
really
don't
have
any
desire
to
be
here.
It
is
not
my
wishes
to
work
against
the
county
as
I
feel.
All
governments
should
be
working
together
to
achieve
common
goals,
but
that's
not
what
has
happened
here.
I
The
county
is
pushing
this
through
and
everyone
is
not
stating
the
facts
and
has
no
desire
to
work
together
on
this
matter.
The
city
of
moments'
was
not
notified
until
two
days
after
the
first
meeting
that
this
was
even
talked
about.
The
only
attempt
to
contact
me
was
one
time
after
the
fact
and
Delbert
skimmer
or
contacted
the
City
Hall
one
time.
Yes,
I
did
not
return
his
call
as
I
felt
it
was
after
the
meeting.
He
stated
on
record
that
he
tried
to
contact
me
several
times.
That's
a
lie.
I
My
cell
number,
my
email,
is
right
on
the
city
website.
There's
never
been
any
attempt
to
contact
me
at
any
other
time
by
means
of
calling
my
cell,
the
city
business
or
by
email.
The
also
stated
the
city
did
not
have
a
comprehensive
plan.
That
also
is
not
true.
We
do
have
one
that
it
encompasses
the
area
in
question.
I
Also,
with
the
growth
of
the,
for
instance,
CSL
would
be
adding
many
new
jobs
and
there
be
needing
additional
homes
in
that
area,
including
Momence
I
feel
there's
plenty
of
land
that
is
not
residentially
zoned
in
the
area
that
would
be
better
suited
for
this
other
than
a
residence
back
yard.
We
have
two
county
board
members
in
that
district.
Neither
one
of
them
has
came
and
discussed
this
matter
with
me.
Why
is
this
little
secret?
Why
no
information?
I
Why
is
this
literally
being
forced
upon
us
where
it
is
not
wanted
by
a
group
not
willing
to
compromise
and
just
move
a
bit
further
east?
None
of
the
representatives
from
the
solar
company
has
given
any
presentation
to
our
city,
not
only
with
the
benefits
of
solar,
but
any
potential
downfalls
or
safety
issues.
I
did,
however,
get
info
that
if
high
winds
or
tornadoes
come
and
the
panel's
happen
to
land
in
your
yard,
don't
touch
it
because
you
get
it
still
generating
power,
an
electric.
Why
is
this
not
being
shared
with
the
public?
I
I
have
discussed
this
matter
with
our
city
council
and
they
unanimously
agreed
that
this
is
not
the
best
place
for
the
solar
farm.
There
was
not
one
person
in
favor
of
it,
and
I
was
instructed
to
submit
a
letter
of
showing
no
support.
That
letter
was
sent
to
the
board
and
also
recorded
it
has
been
read
at
previous
meetings
and
posted
on
our
city
website.
I
have
discussed
this
with
her
city
attorney,
Stuart
diamond
from
angel
gang.
He
informed
me
that
this
now
should
require
a
super
vote
requiring
75%
of
all
voting
members.
I
Not
just
members.
Frazzled
I
am
asking
the
county
board
to
realize
many
false
statements,
improper
notifications
and
no
general
education
to
the
benefits
and
downfalls
of
solar
being
presented
properly
I
ask
that
either
they
vote
to
vote
it
down
or
possibly
return
it
to
the
previous
boards
to
restart
this
process
and
do
it
properly.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
A
J
Morning,
mr.
chairman
members,
the
board,
my
name
is
Jim
Griffin
I'm,
the
Zoning
attorney
for
s,
the
CSG
movement
moments,
one
LLC
that
is
the
applicant
for
the
solar
project,
that's
located
in
the
county
near
the
city
of
moments'.
This
involves
a
rezoning
request:
the
property's
currently
zoned
residential,
even
though
it's
been
used
for
agricultural
purposes
for
as
long
as
anyone
can
remember.
J
So
it's
a
rezoning
request
to
agricultural
so
that
the
zoning
is
consistent
with
the
use
of
the
property
and
then
a
special
use
request
for
a
two
megawatt
solar
farm,
the
CBA
considered
at
its
public
hearing
the
nearby
zoning
and
then
nearby
uses
of
the
properties
surrounding
the
subject
site.
The
CBA
also
considered
a
letter
from
the
city
of
moments',
which
was
opposed
to
the
project.
J
The
property
rights
of
our
landowner,
who
we
have
a
lease
with,
are
controlled
by
the
Kankakee
zoning
ordinance,
not
the
city
of
moments'
and
not
any
other
jurisdiction,
and
because
this
application
for
rezoning
and
for
a
special
use
did
in
fact
meet
all
of
the
standards
of
your
zoning
ordinance.
We
are
requesting
your
favorable
vote,
both
on
the
special
use
and
the
rezoning.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
K
K
Please
note
that
any
solar
farms
being
cited
within
the
extraterritorial
jurisdiction
of
a
municipality
will
need
to
consider
the
comprehensive
plan
for
that
municipality.
They
weren't
even
aware
that
we
had
won
back
a
year
ago.
You
only
found
out
about
it.
What
a
month
ago
or
two
or
three
weeks
ago,
you
don't
even
follow
your
own
rules.
D
L
You,
mr.
chairman,
we
bought
this
house
three
years
ago
as
the
last
house
before
we
retire.
Looking
for
someplace
like
we
had
been
looking
for
this
someplace
like
this
for
five
years,
my
wife
fell
in
love
with
it.
The
location
and
the
view
outside
our
back
yard
is
just
great.
We
have
invested
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
modernize
the
house
and
build
the
plate
and
build
a
detached
garage
and
home
office,
which
will
also
raise
our
taxes.
L
We
checked
into
the
surrounding
land
to
see
if
they
it
was
zoned
residential,
/ag
and
thought
it
would
be
great
to
have
farmland
around
us
or
neighbors
next
to
us
build
next
to
us,
because
the
realtor
said
that
it
was
won't.
It
was
zoned
residential
if
I
would
have
known
three
years
ago
that
this
was
a
possibility.
There
is
no
way
I
would
have
bought
this
house
and
invested
the
money
into
it.
L
The
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
I'd
like
to
present
here
but
I
was
told
I
can't
because
this
isn't
the
place
for
it.
It
needs
to
be
done
at
the
CBA,
but
there
is
one
thing
that
I
did
get
a
few
things
from
a
realtor.
I
was
able
to
take
some
time.
We
worked.
It
didn't
even
find
out
about
the
solar
farm
until
three
days
before
it
was
going
to
before
the
CBA.
So
we
didn't
have
enough
time
to
prepare.
L
Luckily
they
had
to
take
and
postpone
it
for
one
month
that
gave
us
a
little
bit
more
time,
but
still
not
enough
time
to
prepare
a
case
against
it.
The
solar
companies
have
their
lawyers.
They
have
this
presentation
that
they've
taken
years
to
develop
and
to
pitch
to
the
county
boards.
We
haven't
had
that
much
time.
L
L
In
the
case
of
moments,
if
the
property
is
rezone
from
residential
to
agricultural,
with
a
special
use
permit,
not
knowing
the
potential
negative
environmental
issues
and
not
knowing
the
esthetics
pleasing
the
property
will
be
how
aesthetically
pleasing
the
property
will
be,
then
they
will
create.
The
fear
of
the
unknown
is
that's
something
that
we
deal
with
and
they
deal
with
in
real
estate.
All
the
time
you
guys,
if
you
take
and
pass
this
and
turn
it
from
residential
to
agriculture,
was
specials
bustle
use,
permit
that's,
creating
a
fear
of
the
unknown.
L
L
The
question
I
have
one
of
the
questions
I
have.
Is
they
tell
me
that
this
thing
is
going
to
be
a
lottery
system,
because
the
Kankakee
County
has
so
many
of
these
things
that
are
being
applied
for
it?
If
that's
the
case,
we
have
a
lot
of
potential
sites
that
were
brought
up
to
the
county.
That
has
basically
no
one
against
it.
We
take
this
out
of
the
mix,
wouldn't
it
be
a
little
bit
easier
to
try
to
get
one
of
them
through
the
lottery
system.
The
odds
are
in
better
favor.
L
If
this
one's
out,
but
I'm
asking
the
board
to
do,
is
either
send
this
back
to
zba.
So
since
we've
had
some
time
to
do
some
in
finding
some
information
against
this
that
we
can
present
send
it
back
to
the
CBA.
So
we
can
present
that
and
be
able
to
dispute
their
facts
and
findings
or
take
it
today
and
let's
vote
on
it
and
be
done
with
it
and
out
of
it.
A
M
Good
morning,
mr.
chairman
members
of
the
board,
first
I
did
want
to
mention
that
our
hearts
go
out
to
the
people
in
Italy.
There
was
a
bridge
that
collapsed
and,
as
far
as
we
know,
22
people
died.
So
we
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
wanted
to
rise
today,
because
I
saw
on
the
agenda
that
we
were
going
to
amend
the
mileage
and
the
reimbursement
ordinance.
Excuse
me
and
I
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
on
what
our
positions
have
been
with
some
of
these
travel
expenses
and
so
forth.
M
I
know
that
my
position
isn't
always
the
most
popular
you
know
among
certain
groups,
but
personally
I
refuse
to
believe
that
people
in
general
don't
want
to
do
the
right
thing.
You
know
doing
right
thing
has
been
evidenced
by
many
county
employees
who
have
followed
the
policy
without
fail
and
they
have
not
violated
the
per
diem
doing
the
right
thing
has
been
evidenced
by
constituents
who
have
approached
me
and
the
community
as
I'm
out
and
about,
and
have
said
that
they
appreciate
how
we
have
guided
the
hand
of
accountability
throughout
the
activities
that
we
engage.
M
We
have
been
charged
with
the
careful
watch
of
tax
dollars
and
we
really
feel
ownership
and
responsibility
to
that
charge,
and
it
is
not
our
intention
to
cause
strife
or
contention
among
people,
but
to
just
let
our
taxpayers
know
that,
because
they
are
forced
to
give
up
their
hard-earned
money
to
this
government
and
governments
all
over
the
country,
then
the
least
we
can
do
is
be
responsible
and
accountable
with
the
way
we
spend
those
dollars.
I
liken
the
current
tax
policy
to
a
cell
phone
contract.
M
You
have
a
cell
phone
contract
with
500
minutes
and
you
exceed
the
500
minutes.
You
have
to
pay
for
every
minute
above
the
500.
If
you
have
basic
cable
and
you
want
to
watch
HBO
you'll
be
charged
for
the
premium
channel
and
our
approach
to
the
per
diem,
which
is
a
ceiling.
That's
your
500
minutes.
So
to
say,
if
you
exceed
that
you're
not
allowed
to
receive
that
money
to
you,
and
so
our
recommendation
was
in
the
particular
instance
that
it
appears
will
be
voted
on
today
and
was
passed
through.
M
The
Finance
Committee
was
that
the
amount
that
is
a
that
was
requested
is
reduced
to
the
amount
that's
allowed
per
the
GSA
schedule
per
County's
policy,
and
so
I
would
ask
that
the
messenger
be
forgotten
in
this
instance.
But
the
message
is
considered
that
we
must
be
consistent
and
we
must
not
slapping
slap
the
employees
who
follow
the
policy
in
the
face
by
making
an
exception
and
making
excuses
for
one
who
didn't.
M
Unlike
what
has
been
said
at
finance,
I,
do
not
have
any
personal
agenda
other
than
the
satisfaction
that
we
are
keeping
a
watchful
eye
over
tax
dollars.
So
I
urge
the
board
to
reject
this
claim
to
the
amount
that
the
auditor's
office
has
recommended,
because
that
is
the
amount
that
is
in
line
with
the
policy
and
with
the
GSA
schedule.
I
have
emailed
our
analysis
and
I
would
hope,
you'll
debate
and
discuss
that
issue
and
not
get
fixated
on
the
dollar
amount,
because
it
is
about
principle
and
our
principles
should
be
undergirded
with
accountability.
I.
A
N
N
He
received
the
Illinois
Association
of
County
Clerk's
and
recorders
award
and
was
named
the
Illinois
County
official
of
the
Year
by
the
Illinois
Association
of
County
officials
and
in
2018.
He
was
selected
as
citizen
of
the
year
and
awarded
the
Lifetime
Achievement
Award
for
community
service
by
the
daily
journal,
a
newspaper
published
in
Kankakee
Illinois
and
whereas
Bruce
Clark's,
accomplishments
and
abilities
have
been
recognized
nationally
and
internationally
throughout
his
publications
of
best
practices
papers
by
the
election
center.
A
not-for-profit
organization
that
promotes
preserves
and
improves
democracy.
N
In
2015,
he
received
the
first-time
voter
project
award
from
the
International
Center
for
parliamentary
studies
at
its
ninth
annual
symposium
in
South
Africa
during
his
election
work.
He
has
also
served
many
international
organizations,
including
the
National
Democratic
Institute,
the
Carter
Center,
the
International
Foundation
for
electoral
systems
in
the
Organization
for
Security
and
Cooperation
in
Europe,
whereas
Bruce
Clark
has
served
on
the
boards
of
various
community
organizations
such
as
a
Kiwanis
Club,
st.
N
Paul's,
Lutheran
Church
in
school,
the
United
Way,
the
Helen
Wheeler
Center
in
the
Kankakee
County
public
building
commission
and
whereas
Bruce
Clark
received
his
degree
in
political
science
from
the
University
of
Kentucky.
He
resides
in
bourbon
a
with
his
wife
and
three
children,
of
whom
he
is
very
proud,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
by
the
House
of
Representatives
of
the
100th
General
Assembly
of
the
state
of
Illinois
that
we
congratulate
Bruce
Clark
on
his
retirement
from
the
Kankakee
County
Clerk's
office.
O
Thank
you,
Thank
You,
representative
Parker's,
for
your
time
and
for
your
efforts
in
presenting
this
resolution,
it's
certainly
been
my
honor
to
serve.
You
know
over
the
years
the
residents
of
Kinki
County
and
just
briefly
I'd
like
to
say
it's
good,
to
be
be
before
the
board
again.
I
want
to
thank
the
board's
both
past
and
present
for
their
support
and
wish
you
well
in
your
deliberations
and
decisions
ahead
of
you.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
We
all
know
it
has
to
be
from
the
same
party
you're
meeting
with
the
party
that
brought
before
me
and
now
it's
being
brought
before
you
as
my
recommendation
of
Michael's
ends.
Is
there
a
motion
to
appoint
mr.
Trippe,
a
second
Miss
Parker,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
those
opposed!
Well,
you
made
it
mr.
Zen's.
Please
join
us
up
in
the
front
here
and
congratulations.
A
We'll
do
that
right
after
the
meeting
so
Artie
moving
on
certificates
of
appreciation,
Greg
Dan
Duran
from
the
Sheriff's
Department
ten
years,
Tyler
Fox
Sheriff's
Department
ten
years,
Adam
Granger
Sheriff's
Department
ten
years,
Jacqueline
Hart
car
Sheriff's
Department
ten
years,
Brant
Camry
Sheriff's
Department
ten
years,
Chad
ruckman
ten
years
at
the
Sheriff's
Department.
Well,
they
had
a
good
day
of
hiring
Kyle
Vance
ten
years
at
the
Sheriff's
Department
Michelle
Braun
fifteen
years
at
the
state's
attorney's
office.
There
she
is
Graham
will
present
that.
P
Morning,
everybody
Michelle
has
been
a
victim
witness
coordinator
in
our
office
for
the
past
15
years.
It's
not
a
very
easy
job.
She
meets
with
the
families
and
the
victims
of
crime.
Here's
their
stories
takes
their
statements
and
works
with
the
prosecutors
in
our
office
to
get
justice
for
those
victims,
not
an
easy
job,
but
she
does
it
so
well
with
a
lot
of
grace
a
lot
of
poise,
a
lot
of
competence.
A
Thank
you
and
the
final
one
is
Dave
Jepsen
30
years
at
the
Sheriff's
Department.
He
is
now
retired.
I
guess
not
officially
he's
end
of
August
he's
on
vacation
in
Alaska,
but
when
he
gets
back
he's
retired,
so
we're
gonna
hold
onto
his
certificate
for
him.
Thanks
for
all
your
services,
Dave
moving
on
minutes
of
the
last
meeting,
July
10th
2018
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
Mr.
Holt.
Second,
mr.
Washington,
all
those
in
favor
those
opposed
motion
carries
claims.
Can
new
claims
committee
reports.
Mr.
C
A
C
D
C
A
C
The
monthly
building
report
from
May
2018
total
permits
of
ninety
three
fees
of
thirty
nine
thousand;
six
hundred
fifty
nine
dollars,
total
extra
fees
of
a
hundred
and
eight
and
fees
of
five
thousand
one
hundred.
Ninety
nine
dollars
for
a
grand
total
of
forty
four
thousand
eight
hundred
and
fifty
eight.
C
P
A
A
A
C
C
B
C
B
A
Motion
carries
boys,
clothes,
moving
on
GBA,
18-22,
rezoning
of
r1
single-family,
residential
district
to
a-1
AG
district
and
a
special
use
permit
section
of
121,
99
c
34
in
the
a1
agricultural
district,
section
17
moments,
Township.
The
reason
that
I
have
asked
to
be
this
this
to
be
pulled
is
because
many
board
members
received
ex
parte
communication.
At
one
point,
the
the
it
was
brought
up
that
it
was
part
of
the
city
of
momentous,
comprehensive
plan
to
use
that
area
as
agricultural
and
it
could
not
be
produced
at
CBA
or
pza.
A
The
actual
comprehensive
plan
and
I
in
a
hallway
I
said
bring
it.
You
know
to
the
we
have
to
consider
that
is
that
evidence
evidence.
The
landowner
has
the
opportunity
to
debate.
Just
like
you
had
the
opportunity
to
debate,
so
my
recommendation
to
this
board
would
be
as
a
motion
to
send
it
back
to
Z
ba.
So
all
evidence
can
be
heard
from
all
parties.
That's
the
only
fair
thing
to
do
for
everybody
concerned,
because
the
landowner
deserves
to
be
able
to
debate
this
along.
We
had
to
actually
prove
that
there
was
a
comprehensive
plan.
A
I
see
that
it
was
filed
on
August
18th,
but
it
was
produced
quite
a
while
ago
and
voted
on.
So
this
is
evidence
it
was
submitted
to
the
county,
but
it
was
actually
you
know,
voted
on
in
moments
quite
a
while
ago.
So
I
think
it's
fair
that
everybody
gets
a
chance
to
to
have
their
day
in
court,
so
to
speak.
So
I
would
entertain
that
motion
mr.
Vickery
a
second
mr.
Trippe
any
questions.
Anything
on
that
mr.
Snipes
I
think.
Q
It's
chairman
I
know
that
hearing
from
moments
they
wanted
to
die.
However,
as
far
as
that's
concerned,
but
hopefully
now
they
get
the
comprehensive
plan
in
place,
I'm
also
for
fairness,
so
hopefully,
in
this
situation.
Anyone
that's
opposed
when
anyone
that
has
any
nays
cereals,
everyone
will
be
contacted
that
are,
that
has
other
stakeholders
in
this
particular
endeavor
so
that
it
doesn't
come
back
to
us
within
I.
Didn't
get
this
I
want
to
get
that
or
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
do.
A
17Th,
this
yes,
and
so
by
doing
it
at
the
next
meeting
that
the
application
process
doesn't
have
to
start
all
over
again.
That
is
correct.
Okay,
so
again,
I
want
to
mention
that
testimony
needs
to
be
in
person.
If
the
city
wants
to
object,
it
has
to
be
in
person.
If
there's
any
other
concerned
parties
that
want
to
object,
it
has
to
be
in
person
straight
from
like
if
a
realtor
wants
to
object
or
provide
testimony,
they
have
to
be
here.
L
L
A
Can
handle
that
after
the
meeting,
but
yes,
what
I
would
say
is
is
it
needs
to
be?
It
can't
be
anonymous,
its
kind
of
what
I'm
getting
at
there
have
to
be,
and
if
the
city
has
a
particular
course
of
the
race,
they
really
need
to
come.
Send
somebody
from
the
council
send
the
mayor
that
they
be
able
to
speak
on
this.
We
have
new
evidence
that
needs
to
be
considered
and
that
needs
to
be
presented.
A
A
We
do
have
those
receipts,
so
it's
I,
don't
know
what
happened
and
I'm,
not
questioning
anybody's
judgment
or
integrity
or
truthfulness
it's,
but
we
have
to
save
those
as
a
board.
You
need
to
know
that
so
that's
part
of
the
law.
So
unless
there's
any
other
questions,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
all,
those
in
favor.
Those
opposed.
Thank
you.
Motion
carries
moving
on
to
142
zba
1825
special
use,
permit
section,
121,
99
c
34,
a1
AG
district,
section
floor
of
a
Roma
Township,
the
Spring
Creek
solar
farm.
A
A
R
It's
okay
opposite
of
that
subdivision.
It's
just
off
of
Route,
one
about
three-quarters
to
a
mile
south
of
Route
17,
it's
on
the
west
side
of
the
road.
It's
a
seventy
six
point:
11
acre
parcel
they'll
be
using
13
acres
outlined
in
blue
on
that
map.
Up
there,
Zoning
Board
voted
four
to
zero.
To
approve,
recommend
approval
with
conditions
pza
playing
his
owning
committee
agreed
with
them.
There
were
no
objectors
present.
There
was
an
adjoining
landowner
who
voiced
his
pleasure
with
it
and
asked
why
we
didn't
do
more
so
I.
S
S
A
The
county
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
where
these
these
developers
are.
Our
brain
are
doing
individual
agreements
with
landowners.
That's
it
was
said
earlier
today.
It's
frustrating
because
we
keep
saying
over
and
over
again
County
doesn't
pick
where
these
things
go.
All
we
do
is
hear
when
people
bring
something
forward,
we're
not
choosing
spots.
You
know
we
people
say
why,
don't
you
do
what
we're
GNB
was
well
that's
if
the
landowner
wants
to
then
they'll
bring
it
forward.
If
it's
in
the
county,
you
know
so
county.
H
S
A
S
I
understand
what
the
minimum
and
I
just
think
what
these
are
so
important
that
I
think
they
should
have
a
lot
of
times
in
Bradley.
We
don't
vote
on
something
because
a
couple
members
are
absent.
We
want
to
get
everybody's
input
and
I
think
that's
the
way
it
should
be.
I
mean
these
are
a
really
big
issues
that
are
coming
up
and
I
think
they
should
have
a
full
board
before
they
vote.
I.
A
B
Q
A
A
D
T
A
That
was
the
one
that
was
added
because
it
was.
We
was
looking
through
this
because
of
other
situations
that
were
going
on
there.
We
didn't,
we
didn't
have
the
authority
for
anybody
on
County
business
to
reimburse
mileage
or
any
expenses.
Basically,
there
was
only
two
reasons.
So
if
like
I
used
the
example
of
one
of
the
board
members
going
down
to
Livingston
County
to
do
County
business
on
transportation
issues,
there
was
nothing
in
there.
That
said,
we
can
reimburse
that
mileage.
A
U
A
Exactly
that
this
is
just
another
reason
somebody
can
be
reimbursed
for
mileage
or
expenses,
the
other.
Let
me
find
the
actual
I
apologize.
I
should
I
open
in
front
of
me.
The
only
reasons
we
had
to
start
with
were
is
that
it
was
training
or
education
conferences
and
then
site
business
occurred
and
potential
vendors
of
the
county.
So
we
were
just
adding
business
related
expenses
as
approved
by
the
department
head,
because
if
the
sheriff
sends
somebody
somewhere
or
the
board
sends
mr.
A
Hess
or
somebody
else
somewhere
else
to
represent
the
county,
we
didn't
really
have
the
authority
before
per
this
to
reimburse
mileage
or
expenses
so
and
it
puts
it,
it
puts
the
onus
in
the
department
heads
hands
which
statutorily
they
have
that
authority,
because
we
lump
some
budget,
that's
kind
of
the
way
that
works.
Yes,
miss,
Evans
and.
V
Are
there
guidelines,
then,
for
the
department
head
to
follow
for
the
amounts
that
are
allowed,
that
if
it
were
safe,
for
instance,
$200
was
allowed
for
the
trip
and
maybe
a
hotel
expense,
but
the
person
went
over.
It
should
still
only
be
the
$200
that
should
be
reimbursed,
not
because
they
want
to
stay
in
a
five-star
hotel
instead
of
a
two
and
a
half.
Well,.
A
That
brings
up
a
situation
and
I'll
just
mention
it
like
this.
Our
current
count,
this
policy
defers
to
the
county
handbook
for
the
answer
to
the
answer
to
that
question
and
Anita
has
done
some
work
on
this
I've
done
some
work
on
it,
we're
looking
at
the
actual
language
of
our
policy
handbook
and
there
it
isn't
congruent
with
the
way
that
it's
been
being
applied
in
the
auditor's
office,
and
so
we
actually
believe
that
it's
being
misapplied
in
these
are
being
denied
expenses
that
they
were
due
now.
A
That's
why
I
brought
that
up
to
finance,
because
I
think
that
if
the
auditor
didn't
believe
in
the
the
way
that
we
are
applying
this
and
they
could
ask
for
that
opinion
from
the
state's
attorney's
office,
basically
and
Anita
can
get
into
detail,
but
there's
two
things
that
are
wrong
with
our
employee
handbook
and
we
actually
bring
that
next
month.
The
whole
employee
handbook
to
or
the
end
of
this
month
to
executive,
because
we've
had
outside
lawyers
and
the
state's
attorney's
office
go
through
the
whole
thing,
because
it
was
really
outdated
in
language.
A
It
was
way
off.
Current
laws
were
missing
in
there,
so
we're
bringing
that
back
to
executive,
and
one
of
the
changes
is
just
that
the
amount
of
reimbursement
was
per
Kankakee
County.
So
if
somebody
stayed
in
a
hotel
and,
let's
just
say,
San,
Antonio
or
Washington
DC,
they
would
still
get
Kankakee
County
hotel
rates.
That's
a
problem
because
you
can't
you
can't
stay
anywhere
in
those
towns
for
50,
60
bucks
a
night.
A
You
sleep
in
your
car
basically,
and
it's
the
same
thing
with
you
know
a
burger
and
Kankakee
is
not
a
burger
in
Washington
DC.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we're
gonna
bring
that
back
and
part
of
your
question
is
that
now.
Currently,
our
employee
handbook
also
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
seventy-five
percent
reimbursement.
V
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A
A
You
have
my
commitment
that
we're
going
to
work
hard
to
make
sure
that
that
happens
in
the
future,
but
we
have
to
clear
up
the
language
conflicts
between
and
really
the
definitions
of,
some
of
the
things
that
are
within
our
policy
handbook
and
what
doesn't
exist
in
and
what's
in
front
of
you
right
now
is
in
the
ordinance.
So
it's
really
two
different
conversations.
The
first
one
is
adding
this.
P
I,
clear
I
somebody,
yes,
please
just
to
adjust
her
point
about
accountability.
There
are
four
checks,
as
we
sit
right
now
when
an
individual
submits
a
claim,
this
first
the
employee
themselves,
who,
as
the
auditor
States
most
of
doing
the
right
thing
and
most
of
doing
appropriate
expenses
on
their
on
their
trips
or
conferences
or
whatever
it
is.
So
that's
the
first
step.
Second
step
would
be
the
department
had
to
overlook
it
and
approve
it.
P
Then
it
would
go
to
the
auditor's
office,
who
would
make
sure
the
receipts
and
the
agendas
and
all
that
are
in
line
and
then,
finally,
if
the
board
so
therefore
checks
throughout
the
process
to
ensure
that
nothing's
being
misappropriated
or
mishandled,
this
today
just
basically
allows
the
employee
to
make
a
claim
for
business
related
expense,
as
approved
by
the
department
head.
So
it
just
allows
that
process
to
start
is
what
you're
amending
today
and
then.
P
Obviously
want
to
let
the
article
speak
for
how
he's
interpreting
the
policy
and
how
his
office
runs
and
applies
it,
but
my
understanding
of
the
situation
is
the
way
the
policy
was
written
and
intended.
Last
time
we
looked
at
it
about
a
year
ago,
year
and
a
half
ago
now,
one
interpretation
was
intended
at
the
time
the
auditors
taking
another
interpretation.
P
From
my
perspective,
either
interpretation
could
be
correct
and
that's
a
difference
from
an
elected
official
perspective,
but
this
board
is
ultimately
in
charge
of
the
policy,
so
if
they
want
to
change
it
and
clarify
their
language,
you
have
every
right
to
do
that
and
then
the
auditor
will
have
to
abide
by
that
policy.
Okay,.
Q
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Q
P
Is
where
I
have
to
defer
to
the
legislative
authority
of
this
board
right?
That's
your
choice
entirely
to
make
that
call.
But
what
this
allows
for
today
is
like
I
said:
miss
Evans.
It
allows
for
the
employee,
with
the
department
had
to
start
the
claims
process
for
any
business
related
expense,
as
approved
by
the
department
head.
P
So
if
something
isn't
an
educational
conference
or
a
site
visit
to
a
potential
vendor,
but
it's
still
an
appropriate
expense
to
be
reimbursed
previously
or
currently
I
guess
is
the
way
to
say
that
employee
couldn't
ask
for
reimbursement
technically
under
our
ordinance
right
now,
as
it
amended
that
would
open
it
up
sales
claims.
So,
as
mr.
Wheeler
said
things
like
travel
expenses
for
a
county
board
member
on
official
business,
it
was
Livingston
County.
That
technically
could
not
be
asked
for
under
reimbursement
policy.
P
That
was
on
the
books
right
now,
but
I
think
I
think
the
room
would
agree
that
that's
probably
an
appropriate
expense
to
being
reimbursed.
So
that's
what
this
opens
up.
It
allows
that
kind
of
an
expense
to
be
asked
for
reimbursement
and
then
what
can
be
reimbursed
up
to
a
cap?
Why
expenses
are
approved
up
to
a
certain
threshold
meals,
Hotel
rates,
those
kind
of
the
meaty
gritty
niche
components
are
in
the
policy
and
obviously
those
have
to
be
looked
at
with
a
little
finer
tooth
call.
Q
W
The
Tony
at
the
whole
is
a
living
organization.
It
functions
on
a
daily
basis
and
to
delays.
Something
like
this
I
feel
would
be
inappropriate,
because
we
need
to
answer
the
questions
that
are
present
right
now
in
order
to
resolve
this
part,
we
can
go
on
and
answer
the
other
questions
and
solve
the
other
problems
as
we
move,
but
we
can't
be
stagnated
on
one
thing,
because
we're
waiting
for
something
else.
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R
The
program
focuses
on
the
acquisition
of
real
property
operates,
independent
of
other
programs.
It's
not
a
grant
program.
I
almost
said
it
was,
but
it
is
not
a
growth
grant
program.
It
is
a
reimbursement
program
and
because
of
that,
the
county
would
have
to
foot
the
bill
first
and
then
be
very
immersed
by
the
state
Illinois
Department
of
Natural
Resources.
Oh.
R
Okay,
let's
get
closer,
then
why'd.
You
need
me
to
start
over
Oh
typical
timeline
for
from
start
to
finish,
is
about
six
months
to
purchase
the
properties.
We
have
four
properties
in
mind
out
on
Laurel
Drive.
There
are
contiguous
properties,
we
would
buy
them,
tear
down
the
structures
and
the
county
would
remain.
We
retain
ownership
of
the
property
once
that
was
done
with
deed
restrictions
that
could
never
be
built
on
and
it
must
stay
in.
Government
ownership
forever
approximate
cost
is
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
R
R
They
have
about
twelve
million
dollars
in
this
program
right
now,
I
think
the
city
of
Watseka
is
buying
out
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
houses
is
what
I
heard
using
this
money
we're
looking
at
this
as
a
pilot
program.
If
this
is
a
successful,
this
is
successful
here
and
we
do
get
reimbursed
at
a
timely
manner.
Then
there
are
other
properties
that
we
could
look
at.
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A
Just
so
folks
know,
I
have
I
have
some
trepidation,
because
the
state's
not
always
honored
their
commitments
to
pay
us
and
we
just
had
to
write
off
$150,000
for
that
courthouse.
Grant
that
never
showed
up
so
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
evidence
where
they
actually
are
bound
to
turn
this
money
around.
Is
it
federal
through
the
state
or
this.
R
Is
actual
state
money,
not
federal
money?
Okay,
it's
not
the
same
program,
the
other
property
that
we
are
working
on.
Currently
that's
taken
three
years
to
get
the
grant.
That's
federal
money,
that's
what
and
a
lot
more
requirements.
This
is
fairly
straightforward
and
simple:
there's
not
nearly
the
requirements
to
use
the
money
are.
R
Yes,
that's
four
hundred
thousand
total
and
that's
based
on
what
the
assessment
office
says.
The
fair
market
value
is,
we
do
have
to
get
appraisals.
That
number
could
go
up,
some
the
to
thirty
thousand
and
we're
estimating
thirty
thousand
a
piece
to
tear
them
down.
We
have
not
gotten
bids
on
that
yet,
but
one
thing
is
that
they
can
use
there's
two
of
them
that
are
federally
insured
with
flood
insurance
and
that
kicks
in
the
ICC
money,
which
gives
us
thirty
thousand
to
tear
them
now.
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Shue
is
not
the
number
of
private
eye
I
think
the
real
issue
is
not
the
number
of
properties,
but
the
400,000,
and
the
point
that
you
brought
up
into
this
conversation.
I
would
like
to
give
you
know
not
to
exceed
400,000
and
forget
the
properties
and
it's
a
discretion
up
to
four
hundred
thousand
and
that's
a
discretion
that
somebody
has
to
make
based
on
how
how
we
might
or
might
not
be
reimbursed
what.
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R
R
Certainly
can
because
there
are
some
other
deductions
if
they
have
taken
flood
insurance
money
for
the
damage
that
gets
deducted
off
the
price.
Mr.
Berg
they're
ICC
money
gets
deducted
off
the
price.
It
could
very
well
be
that
the
county
would
only
have
the
front
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
all
four
of
these.
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Mr.
Berg
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I,
don't
even
know
why
we're
even
discussing
this.
We
can't
even
fund
our
Sheriff's
Department
patrol
properly.
This
is
something
we
don't
even
need
to
be
discussed,
in
my
opinion,
we're
putting
too
much
at
risk
$400,000
of
money.
We
don't
have
I
think
this
is
something
that
should
be
shelved
personally
yeah.
X
A
Were
bound
legally
to
turn
around
and
send
us
the
money
next
month.
I'd
say
it's
really
just
shifted
money
and
it
comes
right
back
to
us
for
the
public
good.
That
would
be
a
really
nice
Park
on
the
river
for
people
to
enjoy.
That
would
be
beautiful
out
there.
People
fish,
that's
actually
a
decent
part
of
the
river.
If
you're
not
underwater,
you
know
so,
but
that's
kind
of
worried.
Someone
asked
a
question:
that's
where
my
head
is.
These
are
gonna
get
continually
flood
until
we
fix
the
river
for
at
least
the
next
ten
years.
A
So
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
where
it's
not
gonna
get
any
better.
You're
gonna
see
more
houses,
get
lost
it's
better
as
a
park
than
it
is
as
a
house.
It's
got
a
tree
through
it
because
people
aren't
living
there,
so
I
would
I
would
say
that
we
probably
should
apply
just
to
see
what
our
options
are.
If
mr.
A
Q
Want
to
make
sure
that
if
I
mean
I
have
I
have
no
objection
in
pursuing
this
as
far
as
the
particulars
concerned,
and
if,
in
fact
the
state
is
there
and
want
to
reimburse
I
would
like
to
see
if
anyone
else
have
done
anything
along
the
river
and
request
and
the
would
reverse
reverse
reimbursement
files
from
the
state
and
whether
or
not
they
got
them.
The
last
thing
I
want
is
a
song
sung
to
me
how
dumb
thou
art,
how
dumb
do
are
I?
Q
If
there's
no
idea
of
here
cause
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
know
you
know
because
I
agree
with
Jim.
You
know,
there's
a
sheriff,
there's
other
needs,
but
if
it's
gonna
be
reimbursable
costs,
we
know
it's
gonna,
be
that
we
don't
know.
What's
gonna
cost
us
as
they
all
say,
could
be
50,000.
It
is
good
to
pursue
just
not
making
sure
that
money's
gonna
be
reimbursed
if
it's
not
I'm
gonna
be
voted
at
mr.
Justin
yeah.
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First
I
need
a
motion
to
approve
and
I
have
some
updates
on
this
miss
Dunbar
second
Miss
Parker,
this
actually
aqua
had
stepped
in
and
said
they
would
finance
12,
five
of
that
or
yeah
I
think
it
was
yeah.
I
was
twelve
five,
but
also
I
received
word
that,
through
the
work
of
Representative,
Parkhurst
and
representative,
very
cramping
on
his
name,
he's
gonna
be
upset
with
me.
A
No
down
Bennet,
sorry
down
at
Iroquois,
County,
DNR,
I
believe
as
good
as
that's
the
entity
through
the
DCO
is
going
to
put
in
sixty
two
thousand
dollars
for
both
of
your
coin
Kankakee
County
into
this
effort.
So
this
may
not
even
be
necessary,
so
I
would
ask
for
the
authorization,
but
the
the
state
stepped
up
to
help
us
on
this
plan.
So
it
was
through
the
work
of
our
representatives.
They
got
that
done
so
I
mean
it
was
it's
kind
of
a
big
deal
when
they
come
through
for
you.
A
So
basically
the
way
that
it's
gonna
work
well,
state
of
Illinois
doesn't
have
much
cash.
We've
heard
things
the
way.
It'll
work
is
since
there's
an
open
case.
If
you
will
for
lack
of
a
better
word
with
Watseka,
the
money
would
go
through
them
because
they
have.
Although
the
flood
problems
down
there,
the
money
would
go
through
them
and
they
would
disperse
it
based
on.
You
know-
and
we
have
a
conference
call
later
this
week,
to
look
at
the
timing
of
that.
A
So
this
may
not
even
be
necessary
and
I
hope
it's
not,
but
this
still
gives
us
authorization
if
something
else
needs
to
be
done
something
further
on
singleton,
ditch
whatever
it
needs
to
happen,
we
leased
a
knock,
was
still
there
as
a
partner
as
well,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
knew
what
the
updates,
where
it
was
very
good
news
when
I
got
that
phone
call,
because
I
really
was
expecting
it.
So
we
had
a
motion
and
a
second
any
questions
about
this.
Maybe
on
that
Miss
Parker.
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A
AA
Thank
you.
I
was
kind
of
disappointed
that
I
didn't
get
notified
at
the
meeting
that
you
didn't
attend,
but
Jim
Carter
did
for
moments'.
I
would
like
to
request
that
mr.
Payton
and
I
both
be
notified
of
any
other
meetings.
You
know
I
could
attend
the.
Might
we
really
like
to
go
to
them
all
the
bridge
meeting?
No,
not
the
bridge
meeting
the
river
meeting
for
the
flood,
even
that,
oh,
oh
sure,
yeah,
Sam,
Xiamen,
south
side
of
that
river
and
I'm
on
the
north
side
of
the.
A
River
yeah
come
on
from
my
district,
so
yeah
not
a
problem.
I
apologize
for
the
oversight,
yeah,
thank
you
that
was
about
a
month
and
a
half
ago,
so
any
further
ones
you'll
be
notified.
We
don't
have
anything
on
the
books
right
now,
so
the
next
meeting
that
we
have
is
just
a
phone
call
to
discuss
handling
the
money,
but
then,
following
that,
I
think
the
next
thing
we
have
is
another
bridge
meeting
coming
up
here.
A
couple
of
points.
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Basically
the
four
just
to
remind
everybody.
These
are
funds
that,
because
of
the
revolving
loan
fund
from
the
state
of
Illinois,
they
basically
said
a
couple
years
ago.
We're
done
keep
the
money,
do
what
you
want
with
it.
It
was
state
money
that
was
supposed
to
be
loaned
out
to
you
know
for
businesses
who
couldn't
quite
qualify
for
a
loan,
which
meant
typically,
the
county,
got
left
with
people,
not
repaying
loans,
because
they
couldn't
go
to
banks.
That
was
what
the
money
was
for.
A
So
in
this
case
we
were
left
with
a
sum
of
money
and
we
are
requesting
that
that
transfers
into
the
general
fund
and
it
offsets
that
wonderful
grant
that
we
didn't
get
reimbursed
for
from
the
state.
So
it
was
it's
basically
to
balance
our
books
right.
Something
we've
been
kicked
right
off,
something
we've
been
carrying
for
a
few
years
and
then
with
money
that
was
now
we're
merging
into
the
general
fund.
So
it's
virtually
a
wash
within
a
couple
thousand
mr.
Mulcahy.
Well.
A
It's
roughly
they're
both
right
around
$150,000,
you
know.
So
if
that
was
it's,
almost
a
complete
wash
between
the
two
yeah
wish.
I
could
be
more
specific.
Well,
we
handle
that
in
committee,
I
apologize,
but
that's
why
it
just
happened
to
be
fortuitous,
that
that
happened.
Yeah.
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
AA
AA
B
E
D
B
A
I
motion
carries
moving
on
the
amendments
to
the
combined
annual
budget
appropriation
for
kinky
Kelly
Olynyk,
County,
Illinois,
2017-2018
fiscal
year
motion
to
approve
and
waive
the
reading
mr.
Vickery.
Second,
mr.
Payton,
is
there
any
specific
questions
we
have?
This
is
the
work
we
did
in
finance,
basically
to
look
at
the
projections
on
both
expense
and
revenue
for
the
rest
of
the
year
to
provide
a
more
accurate
picture
on
what
was
going
on.
We
believe
that
we're
looking
at
you
know
for
the
rest
of
this
budget
year.
A
A
C
D
D
D
A
Motion
carries
moving
on
under
executive,
the
review
of
the
flower
fund
policy.
This
is
something
that
was
sent
to
executive
in
response
to
questions,
whether
we
should
be
doing
this
sending
flowers
to
not
just
the
board
all
departments,
not
all
departments
and
many
departments
were
sending
flowers
as
to
immediate
family
members
of
employees
as
define
sometimes
within
the
department,
but
mostly
by
the
county
policy,
which,
to
be
honest,
we
can't
find
where
it
was
ever
adopted.
A
Or
even
discussed
you
know,
I
know
we
mentioned
it.
What
you
know
about
three
or
four
years
ago,
I
think
it
was
executive
committee.
Do
we
keep
it
going?
That
was
just
a
verbal
conversation
we
had,
but
you
can't
even
figure
out
where
that
happens.
So,
in
the
meantime
the
question
was
raised,
you
know:
can
we
even
do
this
after
the
executive
committee
made
the
motion
to
continue
to
do
it?
I
had
my
own
feelings
about
that,
but
the
committee
voted
that
way.
Since
that
time
we
had
an
opinion
from
the
state's
attorney's
office.
A
That
is
in
your
packet.
That
says,
basically
you
can
it's
not.
There
is
no
public
use
of
that
they're
recommending
against
that.
Their
interpretation
of
the
law
is,
is
there's
no
public
purpose
in
that
which
I
would
actually
agree
with?
There
is
an
HR
purpose
to
that.
You
know
there
is
a
human
side
of
this,
but
then
there's
also
a
tax
revenue
side
of
it,
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
where,
where
we're
at
on
that.
So
what
I
was
going
to
ask
the
committee
for
was
a
motion
to
abolish
any
County
flower
memorial
policy.
A
If
one
exists
because
we
can't
find
more
one
was
ever
adopted,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
my
moment
recommendation
will
be
that
kind
of
a
motion
to
abolish
any
kind
of
policy
within
the
county
departments.
So
is
that
a
motion
all
right
mr.
Trippe
and
then
we'll?
Let
me
get
into
discussion
after
a
second
mr.
Vickery
on
the
second
sorry
questions.
Mr.
Trippe,
please
it.
E
A
Like
planning
or
you
know
anything
under
the
county
board,
if
you
will
all
those
departments,
a
total
was
about
a
hundred
a
year.
County
board
might
have
been
fifty
if
you
average
it
out
over
five
years,
so
it
was
high
from
highway
to
planning
to
everybody.
It
was
not
that
much
money,
but
it
was
brought
up
earlier.
It's
the
point,
so
mister
we're.
D
H
Opinion
state
attorney
I
think
we
need
to
support
the
motion
that
is
before
us.
On
the
other
hand,
I
think
you
were
very
insightful
and
calling
attention
to
the
fact
that
this
is
it
also
a
human
resource
issue
and
I
find
it
regrettable.
Although
law
sometimes
is
regrettable
that
we
end
up,
in
effect,
in
my
judgment,
treating
our
employees
without
the
kind
of
respect
that
they
should
get
as
individuals.
H
One
of
the
things
that
comes
to
my
mind
is
a
confidence
that
employees
productivity
depends
a
partly
upon
the
morale
that
they
have
when
we
do
not
recognize
their
life
beyond
the
hours
that
they
are
with
us.
I
think
we
are
treating
them
inappropriately,
and
it
is
unfortunate
that
the
public
too
often
does
not
see
those
who
are
employed
by
the
public
as
anything
more
than
people
that
are
eating
up
the
cost
they
have
to
pay
in
taxes.
I.
H
Y
A
Don't
think
there's
a
comparison
to
private
companies
to
public
employees
as
far
as
that
goes
because
really
they're
not
funded
by
tax
dollars
unless
they're,
given
huge
incentives
to
stay
in
the
state
or
whatever
else,
but
it
just
seems
so
impersonal.
It
seems
like
we
don't
care,
it
seems
like,
and
so
all
I
could
ask
is:
is
that
we
all
pony
up
when
the
act
comes
around?
You
know
and
I
think
that's
appropriate.
So
there's
anybody
else.
Mr.
Snipes.
Q
Q
I
do
agree
with
mr.
leer
in
that
aspect.
I
must
digress
and
give
at
least
another
resolution
that
would
probably
be
even
more
tangible,
given
what
we're
doing
here
instead
of
flowers
I,
would
just
abolish
the
flower,
because
they're
going
to
die
in
a
couple
of
days
or
wither
away.
What
I
would
propose
is
that
the
county
do
a
resolution.
A
A
C
W
B
A
Motion
carries
I
would
suggest
that
somebody
can
think
about
what
we
can
do
instead
because
it'll
be
tough
to
go
around
and
get
a
dollar
from
everybody
passing
the
virtual
hat,
isn't
kind
of
tough.
So
maybe
we
need
to
do
a
petty
cash
or
something
like
that.
That's
for
these
types
of
things
and
we'll
talk
about
that
maybe
offline,
if
you
have
any
ideas,
bring
it
to
committee.
That
kind
of
thing
resolution.
A
A
C
D
A
A
C
D
A
Thank
you
for
your
forgiving
nature
of
a
misstep.
Sorry,
no,
that's!
Not!
Okay.
I
would
like
to
mention
we're
back
out
of
executive
session
board
members
that
have
left
one
was
mr.
I'll
adjust
before
executive
session
and
mr.
Bern
has
exited
as
well
so
coming
out.
We
have
some
minutes
executive
session
minutes
to
approve
or
not
approve,
as
the
board
feels
fit.
You
have
a
recommendation
sure.
P
So
our
office
took
a
review
of
the
language
that
was
in
the
minutes
for
the
close
few
minutes
for
the
past
several
years
and
we're
recommending
that
January
13th
of
2015
be
released.
The
litigation
discussed
is
concluded
and
of
me
for
privacy
no
longer
exists,
August
11th
of
2015,
the
litigation
discussed
has
concluded
in
a
need
for
privacy,
no
longer
exists,
January
12th
of
2016,
the
litigation
has
concluded
and
the
need
for
privacy
no
longer
exists,
July
12th
of
2016,
the
litigation
has
concluded.
P
Also
there
and
the
need
for
privacy
no
longer
exists:
November
9th
2016,
the
litigation
has
concluded
and
need
for
privacy
no
longer
exists
and
November
29th
of
20.
The
collective
negotiation
discussion
has
concluded
and
the
contract
has
been
signed
and
approved.
So
those
six
we're
recommending
we
release
in
full
and
then
finally,
the
January
9th
2018
discussion
surrounding
Brian
get
voices
replacement
and
the
VA
seed
superintendent
replacement
can
be
released,
but
the
rest
of
the
discussion
should
remain
confidential
for
pending
litigation
purposes.
A
A
It's
like
an
echo
in
here
sorry
about
that.
Basically,
this
was
what
Executive
Committee
voted
on
to
put
an
advisory
question
out
there,
trying
to
at
least
let
the
people
know
that
we
know
where
the
real
problem
is.
The
idea
that
the
state
can
operate
on
with
an
out-of-balance
budget
when
there
is
a
actual
provision
within
the
Illinois
Constitution
that
they
provide
a
balanced
budget,
really,
the
only
person
that
can
enforce
that
is
the
Attorney
General.
A
So
that's,
basically
the
gist
of
it
is
to
have
the
Attorney
General,
enforce
the
balanced
budget
provision
upon
the
legislature
of
the
state
of
Illinois.
We
know
that
the
less
they
do
and
the
bills
that
they
don't
pay
just
get
pushed
right
down
to
us
and
we
as
a
board,
see
that
continually
over
and
over
again
we
have
to
wait
a
year
for
reimbursements
if
at
all,
for
grant
made,
and
so
that's
money
out
of
our
pocket
before
we
get
it
back
and
then
it's
always
late.
A
So
it's
more
like
sending
a
message
to
Springfield
like
we
know
what
the
problem
is
and
the
problem
is,
you
guys
can't
do
a
balanced
budget,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
I
want
to
bring
it
to
the
board.
Maybe
the
public
will
pick
up
on
that.
That's
the
hope
that
you
know
you
can
hold
your
legislators
accountable,
but
who's
holding
those
people
accountable
to
that
annoy
Constitution.
So
we
passed
an
executive
need
a
motion
to
approve
here
to
put
on
the
ballot.
Mr.
A
mohei
he's
second
in
the
sevens,
any
questions
about
any
of
that,
all
those
in
favor
those
opposed-
that's
all
I
had
I
do
hope.
Miss
Dunbar
here,
five
minutes
after
the
meeting
and
mr.
Snipes
I
had
some
paperwork
for
both
of
you.
So
if
you
have
five
minutes,
I
can
run
downstairs.
You
can
run
upstairs.
I
don't
want
to
keep
you
any
longer.
He's
been
a
marathon
today,
but
I
apologize.
So
a
motion
to
adjourn
mr.
Mulcahy
who's
gonna
get
who's
gonna
be
hearty
to
his
Laurel.
A
All
under
new
business,
well,
we
we
addressed,
we
dressed
it
in
the
discussion,
but
it's
gonna
be
coming
back
as
part
of
the
policy
manual
along
with
all
the
other
policies,
and
it
will,
by
the
way,
we're
gonna,
send
that
to
you
a
week
ahead
of
time.
It's
not
going
to
be
the
day
because
there's
a
lot
of
changes,
there
was
laws
that
were
completely
missing
from
that
book
and
things
that
were
outdated.
So
in
not
even
matching
our
current
ordinances.
A
So
we
have
a
motion
who's,
the
second
I'm
sorry
Oh
criminal
justice
is
canceled
for
tomorrow
morning
we
did
not
have
anything
on
the
agenda
beyond
the
normal,
and
so
it
was
just
those
reports
will
go
to
executive.
So
there's
a
second
miss
Peters,
it's
kind
of
stay
in
the
back
row.
There
is
tradition,
I
think
it's
in
the
county
code.
As
far
as
you
know,
all
those
in
favor
those
opposed
have
a
good
day.