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Kankakee County Board Meeting 02/08/2022 9:00am

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Good morning like to call the kankakee county full board meeting to order uh for february 8 2022. um Today's invocation is from chad, miller.

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Most compassionate and loving god, we gather as those who are making decisions seeking to improve our communities. We have much to pray for good and gracious god give us an openness to listen to our community's needs. Give us joyful spirits and an eagerness to engage others.

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Give us hopeful imagination, creative vision, please help us to focus on our common ground. Instead of our differences. Please help us focus on our fellow man's strengths and qualities instead of their deficiencies and shortcomings.

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We give thanks for those we give thanks for giving us the capability and patience to see things from different perspectives and the ability to respect those who have different points of view, help us to always respect this sacred space for our missions meet to improve our communities, and please bless us here today and give success to our work in your name. We pray, amen, amen,.

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Amen, amen, the pledge of allegiance.

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To the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god.

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Indivisible with liberty and just.

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All right, if we could get a roll call, sir. Thank you.

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Mr hess, mr thalin, mrs polk president, mr snipes, mr sirois, president, mr lear, mrs weber, mrs peters, mr payton president, mrs parker, mr fairfield, mr carrico, mr eckhoff, mr swanson, mr fatherling, mr dunhill, president, mr miller, mr long president, mr kirkstra brother, mr hunter, I'm president uh via zoom, miss brian president, mr collins, ms hudson president, mr smith, president, mr alexander, hillebrand, president, mr gowler, mr raymond, mr wheeler president, we have.

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A quorum well, we have a quorum. Is there a motion to accept mr hunter who's off on a medical issue on zoom, mr long, mr donnell, hello and uh all those in favor say aye aye, those opposed same sign all right. Officially your ears, mr hunter hope you're doing well, sir. Thank you. uh We have no request for public commentary today is there anybody want to make public comment right? No presentations of vacancy appointments, proclamations or certificates today um minutes of last meeting january 11 2022.

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Is there a motion to approve those uh miss hudson, miss polk with a second uh all, those in favor, say aye. Those opposed same sign motion carries uh under claims committee reports. Mr.

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Chairman members of the county board, your committee on county claims have begun to report the examined the following claims presented and recommend payment clerk is hereby authorized and directed to issue orders to the several claimants total claims of eight million one hundred seventy three thousand six hundred sixty four dollars and seventy four cents.

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All right is there a motion on that one to pay the bills. uh Mr swanson, a second mr fairfield uh that'll, be without questions.

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Yes, I I'm looking to the side of the 900 numbers, and I um I'm thinking that these are the ones that kind of pass through, uh maybe that we collect, but they have the funding title with payroll clearing and then it says various individuals, uh but the description basically says like an aspie or fop or whatever and or fica, which looks like those numbers are there, but the various individuals kind of would mislead. You went to saying: is there a reason why we don't have a vendor?

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The vendor name, just put the defender's name there versus the various individuals.

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uh Do you want to answer that anita? You probably say it better than I can.

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Every single person's paycheck, so they're the various individuals right; okay, so that would make sense thanks.

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uh Any other questions, uh roll call vote please. Mr.

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Hess all right, mrs polk aye, mr snipes, all right, mr siroi aye, mr lear aye, mrs weber, aye, mrs peters aye, mr payton aye, mrs parker aye, mr fairfield aye, mr carico aye, mr eckhoff aye, mr swanson aye, mr fatherling aye, mr dunhill aye, mr miller aye, mr long aye, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter aye, ms brian aye, ms hudson aye, mr smith.

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Alexander aye mr galler aye, mr raymond aye, mr wheeler aye,.

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Motion carries um under department reports. Can I get a motion to combine and approve on these? uh Mr donald second, mr lear, uh if we can get him read into the record, please.

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County collector's monthly report for december 2021 total cash and banking investments, 1 million 256 772.33.

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Treasurer's monthly report for december 2021 total cash and investments, one million two hundred fifty six thousand seven hundred seventy two dollars and thirty three cents coroner's monthly report for december two thousand twenty one total calls 175 coroner's cases; twenty seven, nine autopsies, ten toxicology, three donations; five fetal 78 referrals, 101, cremations; three x-rays: nine, pending coroner's income, summary report for december, twenty, twenty one; five thousand twenty dollars; and thirty cents circuit clerk cash book four month ending december 2021, total disbursed, 258 186 dollars and 74 cents; recorders, monthly report for december 2021; disbursement fees paid to the county, treasurer of 158, 593 dollars and 13 cents, county clerk's, monthly report for december 2021, total of 51 837 dollars; and one cent monthly building division report for november 2021 total permit 76, total fees of 77, 104 monthly building division report for december 2021 total permits of 51 fees of 18, eight dollars; animal control; monthly report for december twenty twenty one total of twenty four thousand two hundred sixty dollars in the hip tip, building fund seventeen dollars and eighty one cents total animals handled.

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Seventy one. The monthly resolution report for february 2022 total to the county, five thousand nine hundred and fourteen dollars and thirty three cents.

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All righty we have a um a motion and a second. So all those in favor, please say hi.

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Motion carries thank you uh under uh consent agenda. There's just two items: does anybody want to have these considered uh separately go a second time?

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Is there a motion to combine and improve these two? uh Mrs parker? Second, uh mrs hudson, uh if we can get him right into the record, please.

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The appointment of brent herrod to the zoning board of appeals and declaration of equipment at surplus for the kaneki county sheriff's department.

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All righty, that would just be a roll call vote please. Mr.

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Hess all right, mrs hi, mr snipes, mr c roy aye, mr lear hi, mrs weber. This is peters mr payton hi, mrs parker, mr fairfield aye, mr carico, mr eckhoff, mr swanson aye, mr featherling aye, mr dunhill aye, mr miller aye, mr long aye, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter aye, ms brian aye, ms hudson aye, mr smith, aye, mr alexander aye, mr gowler aye, mr raymond aye, mr wheeler aye,.

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Motion carries: uh let's see the next item number for highways and buildings. The concurring resolution item 18.. uh Is there a motion on this one to approve mr ekkoff? A second, uh mr swanson?

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um Again, it's a resolution uh basically paying those those bills for out of the uh the highway department has listed any discussion on those any questions. It's last time to really put the heat on mr rogers back there. If you want to ask him any in-depth questions, all right, roll vote, please, mr hess, all right! This.

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Is poke hi, mr snipes, mr c roy aye, mr lear aye mrs webber aye, mrs peters aye, mr peyton aye, mrs parker, mr fairfield aye, mr carico aye, mr atkoff aye, mr swanson aye, mr fatherling aye, mr dunhill aye, mr miller aye, mr long aye, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter aye, ms brian aye, ms hudson aye, mr smith, aye, mr alexander aye, mr gowler aye, mr raymond aye, mr wheeler aye,.

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Motion carries uh next item under pza. It's our kankakee county natural hazard mitigation plan consultant um we're going to get that video going here. Real quick with ms bostwick uh dell's going to be on the mic to answer questions uh doe. You want to tee this up. Please.

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Yeah you go up front.

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Good morning, a natural uh hazard mitigation plan identifies the various hazards that our county could be susceptible to, such as tornadoes flooding, high winds, um large hail, and it discusses various ways to mitigate the the impact of those before disaster strikes.

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In order to be eligible for fema funding for those planning efforts and those mitigation and impact efforts, we have to have a hazard mitigation plan in place and it needs to be updated every five years. Ours is now due to be updated and fema was gracious enough to give us a grant to pay for that planning effort.

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We went out, we received the grant in october, we posted a rfp for proposals in december and american environmental was the only uh company to submit a proposal.

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Yeah we can get a motion on this then, from this point, mr ekkoff, mr featherling, with a second and then we'll go through the presentation and discussion to approve correct. Okay,.

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And american environmental gave a presentation to the regional planning commission and again to the planning and zoning committee, and both of those committees do recommend the hiring of american environmental. As the consultants, andrea boswick from american environmental is with us today.

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Did you have a presentation.

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uh Similar to what I gave at the subcommittee, if you want me to go through it again,.

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We we just wanted to make sure everybody had the opportunity to ask questions. You know we, we record the video, so you could go back and look at this stuff before the full board meeting, but we definitely want to make sure you have a chance to ask any questions you have so um you know I don't know. If there's a summary from the meeting. uh Mr featherweight, you wanted to mention.

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She did a really good job of presenting at the pca. I just wanted to say that that we had all our questions answered and.

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Get any more questions that got answered so we had everything under control.

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Is the uh the local match is uh in-kind services.

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Services so there's no cash match, it will cost the county zero dollars to uh to do this plan.

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And are they going to be considering the actual work plan for our side of the state line? Are we going to be providing that documentation to them this, so it's accounted for.

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Yes, this this plan is actually very timely, with some of the other initiatives that we we have going on, such as with the river.

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A lot of that will be included in this plan through the discussions, um I'm not sure exactly, what's appropriate and what's not right now, but certainly flood mitigation on the river will be a huge part of this plan. That is our number one disaster.

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Okay questions uh mr snipes.

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Just one it might be just way out there, but I know that uh the river is beneficial to everyone in the county. I do know that uh there are several initiatives, that's out there for the river, but what I would like to know is um through this american environment. Is there any way that we can seek um through our for finding some help uh for our river? That benefits everyone.

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For the new funds from the covet.

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I'm not sure I can speak directly to that. I know what they have in terms of mitigation funds through fema for their grant suite. um I'm not sure whether any of the arpa funds can be actually used for uh mitigation on the river dell. Do you know whether that's a.

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Possibility I do not know that okay.

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I'm sorry, I can't.

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Answer that one I'm sorry, I just wanted to start. You know with the sand and things and snake I'm just looking. Is there any possible? That's a question. Yeah.

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This plan definitely opens up funding from fema yeah. I know whether it affects arpa funding. I can't say.

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Any other questions all right. It's a good process we have we have to and we should want to go through. This is something that's one of our primary.

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Roles here this will be the third time we've gone through this yeah and.

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It's it, it evolves things change, you know, as we know, um we have a motion in a second. I believe uh roll call vote. Then, if there's no more questions.

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Mr hess aye mrs polk aye, mr snipes aye, mr siroid aye, mr lear aye, mrs weber, mrs peters aye, mr payton, mrs parker aye, mr fairfield aye, mr carico aye, mr eckhoff aye, mr swanson aye, mr featherling aye, mr donnell aye, mr miller aye, mr long aye, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter.

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Aye, ms brian aye, ms hudson aye, mr smith aye mr alexander aye, mr gowler aye, mr raymond aye, mr mr wheeler,.

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Hi motion carries. Thank you. uh Next item is an executive session employment matters involving specific employees, 5 ilcs, 120 2 c2. Is there a motion to go into executive session? uh Mr carrico? Second, mr gallard, all those uh that's a roll call vote please. Mr hess.

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Mrs polk hi mr snipes aye, mr c roy aye, mr lear hi, mrs weber, mrs peters aye, mr payton aye, mrs parker aye, mr fairfield aye, mr carico aye, mr eckhoff aye, mr swanson aye, mr featherling aye, mr donnell aye, mr miller aye, mr long aye, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter aye, ms brian aye, ms hudson aye, mr smith, aye, mr alexander aye, mr gowler, all right, mr raymond aye, mr wheeler hi,.

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All righty we'll get things changed over uh be uh brief, I expect a brief executive session.

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All righty, we are back from executive session. All board members are still present.

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um Is there a motion coming out to appoint the county engineer for kankakee county, uh mr swanson and uh we'll go with miss brian as a second? Is that for the I'll read make sure this is okay uh to appoint gregory hayden for a six-year term uh from 327.22 to 1128 at 100 of the I dot recommended salary? Is that the motion?

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Okay, all righty, any discussion on this matter?

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Roll call vote. Please.

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Mr house, all right, mrs pope aye mr snipes aye, mr sirois aye, mr lear aye, mrs weber, aye, mrs peters aye, mr payton, mrs parker, mr fairfield aye, mr carrico aye, mr eckhoff aye, mr swanson aye, mr featherling aye, mr donnell aye, mr miller aye, mr long aye, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter, hey, miss brian aye, ms hudson aye, mr smith, aye, mr alexander aye, mr galler aye, mr raymond aye, mr wheeler aye,.

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Motion carries motion carries thank you uh number 22. The um excuse me 21.. If we could just get the title read in the record. Please resolution.

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Of the county board of kenke county illinois regarding property tax abatement for tax year, 2021 payable 2022 to be abated in its entirety.

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uh Is there a motion from someone to abate taxes? Don't everybody raise your hand at once, mr miller, miss peters, um uh something uh we do every single year, but we have we've abated taxes every year that I've been on the board. So um if there's no questions we'll just do roll call both. Yes, mr peters, uh yes, sir.

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When the skdo, our outside auditor, sent out a letter and said that we should be abating our bonds are there other bonds that we could possibly be abating.

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No, that's not the the nature of the letter. Yeah, that's a misrepresentation.

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So is there any other questions.

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And we say we are baiting in its entirety. Is this paying it off or is this? This means that.

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Just this year, the in the the taxes in this resolution there were not collecting those taxes contained in that resolution. Okay,.

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And that's debating it.

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Taxpayers keep their money right.

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So is there any other questions?

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Alrighty roll call vote. Please.

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Mr huss hi mrs poke hi, mr snipes all right, mr c, roy aye, mr lear hi, mrs weber, mrs peters aye, mr payton aye. This is parker mr fairfield aye, mr carico aye, mr eckhoff aye aye, mr swanson aye, mr featherling aye, mr dunhill aye, mr miller aye, mr long aye, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter aye, ms brian miss miss hudson hi, mr smith, aye, mr alexander aye, mr galler aye, mr raymond aye, mr wheeler aye,.

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Motion carries uh the uh next item up on uh number 22. If we can get that title right, please.

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Resolution, the county board of can key county illinois regarding amendments to the combined annual budget and appropriation for kanke county illinois, 2020 2020-2021 fiscal year.

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Is there a motion? There start with mr lear? Second, uh mr fairfield, any questions about this one. It's it's basically our special funds uh we had to well, we did we had to adjust those and make sure that those ended the we appropriated that money correctly at the end of the budget year.

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So there were some expenditures out of special funds. I believe that was primarily what that was um steve. It was all special funds. Yeah, it was all special fund throughout the year, wasn't general fund. So all right, roll call vote. Please, mr hess, all.

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Right, mrs poke aye, mr snipes all right, mr c, roy aye, mr lear aye, mrs weber, aye, mrs peters aye, mr payton aye, mrs parker aye, mr fairfield aye, mr carico aye, mr eckhoff aye, mr swanson aye, mr featherling aye, mr donnell aye, mr miller aye, mr long aye, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter aye, ms brian aye, ms hudson aye, mr smith, aye, mr alexander aye, mr gowler aye, mr raymond aye, mr wheeler aye,.

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Motion carries now under the arpa fund projects under the consent agenda uh are we I heard that uh folks wanted to consider 31 separately? Is that accurate.

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And that's the chairs that has chairs for the eoc and chairs for the county boardroom. Is that a matter you would like to discuss separately? If not, it will go through the consent agenda.

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Discussed separately, okay, 31 and mr mr raymond, as well, okay, alrighty and then so we'll take that one separately. Otherwise, is there a motion to combine and approve these uh we'll? Go mr kirkstrom miss polk with a second. If we can just get the particulars you know. Obviously it's a long title.

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Authorizing expenditure from fiscal year, 2021 fund 95 for the following um advantage: copy and repair hemon over construction; new beginning for cats, two rivers supply kinky, county clerk's office election judge training program and for fund 98 lost revenue to shoot, manufacturing circuit clerk and sheriff copier kanke county clerk's office, outdoor ballot box and king key county sheriff's department shield force all righty.

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And we have a motion in a second, so it will be a roll call on those uh harper fund allocations.

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Mr hess aye, mrs poke.

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Snipes aye mr c roy aye, mr lear aye, mrs weber, aye, mrs peters aye, mr peyton aye, mrs parker aye, mr fairfield aye, mr carrico aye, mr eckhoff aye, mr swanson aye, mr fatherling aye, mr dunhill aye, mr miller aye, mr long all right, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter aye, bryan aye, ms hudson aye, mr smith, aye, mr alexander aye, mr galler aye, mr raymond aye, mr wheeler aye,.

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Thank you motion carries now 31 if we could just get that one kind of written the record.

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Authorizing expenditure expenditure from fiscal year, 2021 fund 98 lost revenue fund to the kaneki county sheriff department, eoc equipment upgrade all.

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Righty is there a motion to uh approve or otherwise on this matter,.

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uh Mr fairfield motion to approve is there a second on approved, mr long all righty, any discussion.

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Yes, miss ryan hold on I'm sorry, just one moment. I'm sorry are.

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We going to get the old chairs when they get new chairs.

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In the resolution as it stands right now, we get the new chairs as well because of the condition of these chairs. Yes, sir, so that's that that's why it's it's in there right now and I you know people wanted to have that discussion. So uh mr lear.

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I voted no on this in the committee, partly because I I felt that something that was for the sheriff's department, something for the administration department, kind of confuses things in terms of what is appropriate ways to spend. What's administration department, the chairs in this room uh make more sense to put in a a different resolution. I would think uh so uh that's why I voted no at that time.

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I will certainly uh obviously have to abide by the majority opinion, but I was hesitant to include those because it did not seem like that was a clear-cut way in terms of spending transparency for the public.

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The the it was brought in because we wanted to see about quantity discounts if we bought all the same kind of chair what that would cost. uh That's that's the reason that was in there that way, and I take it to a good point, though um there was no quantity break after we looked so. Mr lear, did you have anything else? Yeah.

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That's what I was yeah checking that whether it was going to be a quantity break, because I never got any information that no.

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That was that's. What came back we researched and there was a quantity break by adding it was not by what 30 some chairs for this room, uh so uh any other. uh Yes, mr featherweight yeah. Those have to be.

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Put together by our staff is that true or they they get put together, but they come assembled or how does that work? It's a good.

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Question I have really no idea.

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When the sheriff's- not here, I'm sure he.

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Could answer it, but he had some a conflict this morning, so um I I would imagine if, if it comes from the vendor, um then we're gonna pay for that.

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So I internally is probably my guess: okay yeah so bless his guys yeah. Actually, I think it was board members who had to put them together bring your allen yeah exactly so. Is there any other thoughts on this? I guess the thing was: do we want to include chairs for this room, even though these are in disrepair and they're, snagging people's clothes and ripping holes and stuff, or do we want to wait and do that separately once we allocate all of the other funds to everybody else, kind of wait for chairs for this room?

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I think that's what I was hearing from people, and so I want to have the discussion. If we're not going to have it, then we'll just go ahead and vote on the whole thing. So is there anybody who has any thoughts there.

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I got it yes, sir. um Thank you, mr chairman. I I think we should uh move forward with getting new chairs for this room and then, if we wait a month or two, I think these would go on the retro market for high dollar. These chairs, because everything everything from the early 70s is coming back in style and orange and orange.

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Orange yeah, okay, all.

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Right so yeah right there with inflation. um Sorry, it's back from the 70s too.

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I would probably uh agree uh these cheers uh is past eligible for social security check. So I'm just saying this: let's move forward, you got it.

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uh We have a motion in a second uh so with any other comments, thoughts. uh Yes, mr eckhart, how.

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Many chairs are we doing.

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The resolution um I apologize, I should know that offhand because that room is full as well and we had a not to exceed number in the resolution. So let me 90 000. yeah. It was 90 for the.

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Whole project: okay, all right! That's for.

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The crestron for the tv screens- it's not 90 000 worth of chairs- please all right.

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I wanted to make.

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You see that headline. um It's.

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For the crestron.

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For the tvs, it's the ema equipment that is used to manage the emergencies, and I can tell you that by going out there, we flip that thing on there with our pre-drill for the nuclear drill, and you can't see the projectors on the walls anymore. It's not a bulb issue, so it is legitimate you we do need that side of it and chairs for out there. You sit at them and they go all the way down the the uh and not just me, don't say that it's everybody sits in them.

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There's no, the pistons in them. Don't work anymore. So um yeah I saw the fat jokes coming. Yeah.

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So, mr hess, thank you, mr chairman, also.

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With these upgrades, we will be able to zoom from that exact location.

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We're going to be able to go back there to zoom as well. That's part of this as well. We want to make sure that we could do that. uh Yes, mr sutherland.

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Numbers broke down for uh people watching the meeting that how much is it? You know digital technology and how much is just for chairs? Could you do that is.

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Well, the sheriff's not here- and I don't have that number- that's why we went not to exceed in case there was some assembly required and things like that. Okay, uh it's gonna be probably just below that, um but as far as the number of chairs not really sure uh right here off hand.

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Let's get 13 and 10 or something oh.

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No many more there's 40 yeah, there's 40 in the eoc and then they'll probably get a couple of spares. And then here we got. uh You know 28 plus whatever's up here and then those that right over there we're not getting those.

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Yeah we're getting off these yeah they're new they're from like the 90s.

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My grandma sat in this chair.

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Any other questions or sidebars that anybody want to discuss. Yes, mr raymond.

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I was uh no in the finance committee too, like um mr leer, um so I would I would be again, but I just for clarification. I think the breakdown of the county board portion of chairs was just under fourteen thousand dollars right for chairs that are used for five hours a month. Just for.

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Actually, this room is probably four or five hours a day. Yeah.

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Well, there are county board members exactly, but there.

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Are other groups other commissions, the vac everybody's, only sort of appeals it is used, it gets a lot of use, but for us again, like you said, um you know, however many meetings a month, one two, three four, actually eight meetings a month roughly in here for county board plus zba twice a month plus any of the other boards or commissions that are in there. So it is that's the same way out the sheriff's department, too. There's other things going on in there with trainings and stuff like that.

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So kind of easter they're, not even ocean compliant oceans,.

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Have four? Yes: okay,.

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I'm sorry here go ahead. You're on you got nothing all right.

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You had something, I'm sorry, okay! Well, I'm sorry! I thought you guys were talking so go ahead. Please.

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No but, mr chairman, um how much is this costing the county.

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This is all coveted money. Thank you so very much. It's dollars. We usually send to dc that never get back here, so we're not using the local property owner's tax levy to buy this. Does that make sense? So there is local money in here, but it's like this much of this much thanks very much.

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You did roll call vote, mr house.

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Hi, mrs pope hi hi mr snipes hi, mr c roy aye, mr lear, mrs weber, aye, mrs peters aye, mr payton aye, mrs parker aye, mr fairfield aye, mr carico aye, mr eckhoff aye aye, mr swanson aye, mr futherling aye, mr donnell aye, mr miller aye, mr long aye, mr kirkstra aye, mr hunter aye, ms brian aye, ms hudson aye, mr smith, aye, mr alexander aye, mr gowler aye, mr raymond. No, mr wheeler.

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Aye motion carries all right. uh The openings.

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One opening on the clawson park, drainage, district, one opening on the x-line creek drainage district, one opening on the mcgill very special drainage district; two openings on the canavan drainage district; two openings on the mantino number: nine drainage district; two openings on the bourbon, a fire protection district.

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All right, thank you, any new business or old or other we'll, just put it all together,.

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I did want to say something and- and I don't have any really think prepared just kind of something I thought I should acknowledge, um with everything going on with all of the contracts we're negotiating with all of the the the hr stuff with the uh the the financial projections we're looking at with just all of these other things that we're doing right now hiring a a replacement or early somebody to take over for mark.

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There is no replacement there, but um I just want to thank anita speckman for all the extra duties she's doing right now, because we'd be lost without her. We couldn't accomplish everything we're doing without her holding it together. Last minute, changes doing things from home. Things never go the way you intend you've got to fix things along the way and we're lucky to have her. So I want to say that thank you.

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And part of this is self preservation because she probably wants to kill me, but the uh I will say that that it is tough to balance all of these different things and uh and still meet a deadline. It's really tough and I appreciate it so um with that. Is there any other motion? Oh mr smith, just go ahead, quick.

E

uh For my just my just my uh purpose of information, I was looking through some of your uh uh back bills and I noticed that we're paying. I know when we first started this suit with the auditor that we were paying.

E

uh They had someone from one county and someone from another county, basically representing for free, but now it looks like we're paying this to like our tour to something insurance or whatever, and that number is kind of when I looked at it. One time was 22 000. I don't know where it is now.

A

This, because this concerns litigation, this is something not the cost.

E

Yeah, not the cost, we're not talking about litigation, we're just talking about the cost that we make sure he doesn't go into anything with deluxe.

I

Yeah yeah who's been appointed yeah. You mentioned.

A

It so the the how do I say this- the taxpayers will be paying for the cost of that suit through the tort fund uh from now on, because those attorneys are no longer doing it for free and there's council representing the county and council representing um the auditor. I think that's about the best way to put this right now. I can't go into details be happy to an executive session. If somebody wants to make the motion, but other than that, I can't discuss anymore no.

E

Just one just saw that this this party is about to cost. However, when I'm looking at the two and it's like, he still has those people, but on our side it's like those numbers going up.

A

It's very very, very expensive when these things can't be resolved outside of court. It's disappointing, I think, for everybody. I can't speak for others, but I think so, which I think it is so um any other questions. Mr hess.

A

Second, orchestra, all those in favor say aye hi, I suppose same sign.