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From YouTube: Criminal Justice Committee Meeting 3/15/2023
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Criminal Justice Committee Meeting 3/15/2023 7:30am
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I
have
not
received
anything
from
public
comment.
Is
there
any
public
comment
at
this
time?
Any
public
comment
moving
on
the
approval
of
amendments
should
have
received.
Take
a
motion
to
approve
Mr
carico
second,
by
Mr
Hunter,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
oppose
same
sign.
Motion
carries
up
next
chief
judge,
Mr
cunnington.
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Good
morning,
just
a
couple
things
to
report
on,
we
do
have
our
applications
out
for
a
new
associate
judge
and
those
are
due
March
20th
and
then
the
they
get
filed
in
Springfield.
They
send
them
up
to
us
and
then
we'll
interview
the
candidates-
and
this
is
a
selection
by
the
the
seven
circuit
judges
that
we
have
in
our
circuit,
Kankakee
and
Iroquois
counties
and
majority
vote
of
the
circuit.
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If
you
recall,
judge
Kramer,
retired
judge
sliwinski
an
associate
judge
ran
for
Circuit
Judge,
he
won
that
seat
and
that
vacated
the
judge,
Lewinsky's
associate
seat,
and
then
the
legislature
did
pass
a
bill
that
allowed
us
to
fill
that
seat,
basically
saying
that
the
results
of
the
2020
census
would
not
be
considered
for
purposes
of
the
associate
judge
positions.
Those
positions
are
figured
according
to
our
population.
So
when
our
population
went
down
in
the
2020
census,
we
lost
that
seat
Well,
we
got
it
back.
Basically,
so
that's
that's
good
news
for
for
our
County.
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Second,
the
basement.
Remodeling
is
is
progressing
nicely.
The
anticipated
completion
date
is
in
about
three
weeks.
We
we
expect
to
be
moving
a
couple
of
offices
in
in
three
weeks.
The
majority,
though
we're
still
waiting
on
doors,
that's
going
to
be
probably
the
end
of
May
before
the
doors
come
in,
so
we
do
have
to
have
some
of
those
areas
secured
before
we
can
move
offices
down
in
there
in
the
basement.
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E
Okay,
so
the
little
bit
of
uptick
that
you
see
in
February
is
from
the
Illinois
debt
recovery
program
started
and
what
that
is
during
the
tax
season.
The
Comptroller
is
able
to
take
the
money
from
the
Illinois
state
taxes
that
to
pay
towards
the
debt
of
our
cases.
Here
we
send
it
to
Harrison
Harris
our
third
party
collection
agency.
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They
work
through
the
files
and
decide
which
ones
they
want
to
send
to
the
Comptroller
or
through
the
program
to
the
debt
recovery
program,
and
then
they
are
able
to
go
through
with
social
security
numbers
and
things
like
that,
and
then
they
find
people
that
have
their
taxes.
Just
the
Illinois
state
taxes.
They
can
take
the
money
from
that
and
then,
if
there
are
any
lottery
winnings
or
you
know,
other
gambling
winnings
things
like
that,
whatever
that
the
IRS
knows
about,
then
they
are
able
to
take
that
money
and
pay
it
towards
Their
fines.
E
The
Comptroller
did
take
that
take
a
lot
of
the
ability
away
a
few
years
ago.
They've
limited
it
tremendously.
So
if
you
look
at
the
history
like
in
2019
in
February,
we
collected
ninety
thousand
dollars
and
then
87.71,
and
so
it's
gone
down
dramatically
over
the
last
few
years,
but
we
did
see
a
little
bit
of
an
uptick
this
year,
so
March
and
April
will
be
better
months
for
us
than
they
have
been
going.
You
know
backwards.
So
if
anybody
has
any
questions
about
that.
E
Okay,
so
the
computerization
the
Tyler
kickoff
we're
doing
that
on
the
first
week
in
April,
there's
a
team
coming
from
wherever
they're
coming
from
I'm
going
to
say,
Texas,
but
maybe
there's
some
that
are
from
other
places
as
well
and
we're
going
to
meet
in
the
probation
department
in
that
meeting
room
over
there
and
they're.
Just
gonna
lay
out
our
plans.
So
it's
very
vague
at
the
moment.
We
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
information,
well
they're,
just
giving
us
enough
at
at
the
time
that
we
need
it.
E
So
we'll
we'll
be
learning
more
and
more
about
that
as
we
go
along,
but
we're
excited
to
get
that
started
and
then
the
other
thing
is
the
administrative
office
of
Illinois
courts.
They've
been
creating
more
reports
for
us
to
complete
Kankakee
has
been
excused
from
a
lot
of
it
because
they
know
that
our
system
can't
produce
the
reports
that
they
need
without
rewriting
the
programs
and
things
like
that
and
So.
Eventually,
we
will
be
caught
up
to
what
they
need.
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But
even
we
were
on
a
meeting
the
other
day
and
one
of
the
gals
from
the
administrative
office,
one
of
the
things
that
everybody
has
done,
and
it
was
one
of
the
first
things
I
wanted
to
do-
is
ADR
and
that's
automated
data
reporting
and
for
us
to
do
it
after
we
got
court
view
is
going
to
still
be
another.
You
know
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
whatever
just
to
add
that
component
in
and
what
that
does.
Is
we
send
all
of
the
dispositions
to
Secretary
of
State
and
Bureau
of
Investigation
things
like
that?
E
Well,
we
do
it
by
paper
still,
and
so
the
other
day
we
were
on
this
meeting
and
I
got
a
text
from
one
of
the
ladies
from
aoic,
and
she
said
you
know:
okay,
we're
gonna
get
to
do
this
now
and
I
said
yeah.
So
we're
all
you
know,
they're
even
excited
for
us.
You
know
because
they
know
how
how
big
of
a
struggle
we've
had
over
the
last
10
or
11
years.
So
good,
okay,.
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Thank
you,
you
can
see
we
had
23
cases
go
to
Grand
Jury,
so
we're
up
to
138.
On
the
year
last
year,
by
the
end
of
April,
we
were
around
I
would
say
by
the
end
of
March,
we
were
around
190.
We've
got
37
coming
up
on
the
next
grand
jury
this
week.
So
it's
pretty
consistent,
we're
not
too
far
at
least
we're
not
ahead
of
where
we
were
last
year,
but
not
all
that
much
behind
either
and
you
can
see
again.
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You
know
23
felony
domestics
really
leads
the
pack
here,
unfortunately,
and
I
know,
I've
explained
this
many
times
at
prior
meetings,
but
those
are
some
of
the
worst
and
most
violent
cases.
We
can
have
come
into
the
system.
They
involve
aggravated
domestic
battery
strangulation.
Cases,
repeat
offenders,
so
you
know
we're
working
so
hard
on
that
we
work
with
Harbor
House
they've
started
a
DV
task
force.
It's
been
in
operation,
for
probably
at
least
six
months,
maybe
going
on
almost
a
year
now
we're
working
very
closely
with
local
law
enforcement.
G
We
want
to
start
getting
out
into
the
community
to
start
educating
people
on
the
dangers
of
strangulation
cases.
I
think
people
think
you
know
you
grab
someone
by
the
neck.
Maybe
that's
what
happens
in
the
course
of
a
regular
battery
or
a
fight,
but
strangulation
is
just
such
a
dangerous
and
lethal
type
of
violent
offense.
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F
Taking
a
look
at
the
Dallas
and
Johnson
Merrell
raised
in
Chicago,
you
know,
Johnson's
talking
about
I,
think
this
yeah
Johnson
was
talking
about
hiring
interventionists
social
workers
and
so
forth,
as
opposed
to
putting
another
responsibility
on
the
cops
when
the
cops
come
to
the
house
and
and
our
society
they're
expected
to
do
a
myriad
of
they
have
a
myriad
of
responsibilities
which
they
may
not
be
capable
of
doing.
They
may
not
be
thoroughly
trained.
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What
do
you
think
and
and
I'm
hitting
you
with
this,
that
maybe
if
we
had
social
workers
and
you're
just
talking
about
the
the
problems,
interpersonal
relation
problems
and
with
men
and
women
and
boyfriends
and
girlfriends
and
all
that
stuff?
Do
you
think
that
social
workers
and
those
kind
of
individuals
could
help
with
some
of
this
stuff.
G
You
know
I
think
anyone
either
in
in
the
prosecution
side
or
a
role
in
law
enforcement.
The
reality
is
you
can't
like
they
always
say
right.
You
can't
prosecute
or
police
your
way.
Out
of
so
many
of
the
problems
that
you
have
in
the
communities
it
comes
down
to.
Parents
comes
down
to,
schools,
comes
down
to,
churches,
comes
down
to
community
I,
I,
don't
know
from
the
police
side.
You
know
that
that's
I
I'll,
let
the.
F
G
Yeah
from
from
my
perspective
in
a
prosecutor's
role,
we're
trying
our
best
to
bring
programs
in
prevention
and
intervention
to
keep
the
kids
out
of
trouble,
keep
them
from
ending
up
in
the
adult
court
system.
They
talk
about
that
school
to
prison
pipeline.
It's
really
a
juvenile
court
to
prison
pipeline,
because
most
kids,
that
we
most
young
adults
that
we
see
on
the
second
and
third
floor
where
they're
charged
now
with
a
felony
or
a
serious
offense,
we've
seen
them
previously
in
the
juvenile
court
system.
G
So
we
need
to
really
narrow
that
pipeline
to
keep
those
kids
from
getting
there.
Social
workers
certainly
play
a
role
because
trauma
plays
a
role
and
in
order
to
address
trauma,
you've
got
to
have
licensed
clinical
social
workers,
we're
providing
those
resources
to
kids
with
a
partnership
through
Riverside.
So
we're
already
doing
that
to
some
extent
and.
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A
I
I
All
right,
you
know
just
a
couple
things
I
think
I
can't
remember.
If
I
said
let
talk
to
last
month
about
it,
we
submitted
a
grant
for
drug
drug
court
program,
did
I.
Okay,
that's
been
sent
off,
hopefully
we'll
hear
soon.
That'll
be,
like
I,
said
two
million
dollars
over
five
years
to
help
for
services
from
drug
testing
to
a
lot
of
things.
It's
a
huge
help.
So
we're
hoping
to
get
word
on
that
in
the
next
few
weeks.
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A
J
J
If,
by
chance,
we
find
a
person
who
maybe
wants
to
move
here
or
come
back
here
because
they're
from
here
and
they
work
at
a
correctional
facility
out
of
state,
the
training
board
does
not
recognize
Corrections
training
from
another
state.
So,
to
give
you
an
example,
I
have
an
officer
that
I
just
hired.
J
It
makes
absolutely
no
sense.
We
have
talked
to
the
training
board
numerous
times
they.
The
rules
are
not
the
same
for
law
enforcement.
There
are
some
stipulations
where
they
will
grant
waivers
for
law
enforcement
police
on
the
police
side,
but
at
this
time
they
have
nothing
in
place
to
Grant
any
sort
of
waiver
to
people
who
moved
from
out
of
state
who
are
already
correction
certified
at
their
facility
or
in
their
state.
J
J
So
now,
I
have
to
send
a
four-year
experienced
correctional
officer
to
an
eight-week
training
that
not
only
has
he
already
gone
through
and
in
some
cases
and
we've
had
cases
where
somebody
had
come
from
another
state
and
literally
had
more
than
the
required
five
weeks,
because
that's
what
Correctional
Corrections
training
is
now
that
changes
in
June,
so
they
literally
had
more
training
than
the
five
weeks
and
that
wasn't
good
enough
for
the
training
board.
So
it's
a
little
frustrating
to
try
to
get.
You
know.
J
You've
got
some
people
who
want
to
move
into
our
state
come
to
work
for
us,
and
then
you
say,
oh
by
the
way
you
got
to
leave
your
family
for
eight
weeks
and
go
back
to
correctional
officer
Basics.
So
we're
still
dealing
with
that
I
mean
we
are
working
with
the
training
board.
We
are
trying
to
come
to
some
sort
of
agreement,
obviously
from
state
to
state.
J
There
are
some
different
rules
in
Corrections
and
you
know,
even
if
we
can
narrow
that
down
to
a
week-long
thing
where
we
just
talk
about
things
going
on
in
Illinois.
That
would
certainly
still
benefit
us,
so
we'll
continue
to
do
that,
but
but
Staffing
wise
assistant,
chief
Schultz
have
have
done
a
great
job
in
getting
people
to
apply
and
getting
their
backgrounds
done
and
getting
them
in,
and
they
continue
to
do
that
every
day.
So
a
couple
other
notes
on
the
on
the
report.
J
If
you
look-
and
this
is
obviously
concerning
as
well-
you
see
that
for
the
first
three
months
of
the
year
we've
sent
there
have
been
25
individuals
sentenced
to
the
only
Department
of
Corrections
and
unfortunately,
there
have
been
64
who've,
been
released
and
sent
back
to
Kankakee
County.
Now,
obviously,
the
hope
is
that
they
come
back.
They
don't
reoffend,
they
you
know,
learn
from
their
mistakes
and
become
productive
citizens.
J
J
We've
had
I
know
that,
just
recently
over
the
last
couple,
bad
weather
incidents
that
we've
had
over
the
last
couple
weeks,
I
think
people
got
so
used
to
driving
in
dry
weather
that
they
can't
stay
out
of
ditches
and
can't
stay
out
of
banging
into
each
other
because
of
the
nasty
weather
because
they
don't
slow
down.
But
for
the
most
part,
it's
good.
It's
slowed
down
a
little
bit
accident-wise.
So
that's
a
positive!
So
that's
all
I
got
on
the
report.
J
J
One
had
some
surgery
had
to
have
surgery
and
is
currently
on
light
duty,
and
it's
just
a
reminder
that
you
know
these
Animal
Control
Officers
are
out
there
dealing
with
pets,
sometimes
they're,
not
pets,
sometimes
they're
Strays,
and
you
know
they
don't
know
how
they're
going
to
react,
and
unfortunately
this
one
got
a
hold
of
one
of
our
Animal
Control
Officers
and
it
she
is
currently
on
light
duty.
So
we'll
continue
to
deal
with
that.
F
J
Yes,
we
have-
and
you
know
obviously
and
I-
think
I-
don't
know
Tom's
still
here,
you
know
they've
got
people
assigned
to
public
their
community
service
work
as
well
problem
is.
One
is
a
little
bit
of
a
staffing
issue
for
us
to
take
them
out.
City
I,
don't
know
if
they
have
a
community
services
officer,
anymore,
I,
don't
think
so
yeah.
J
So
that's
who
was
taking
out
the
inmates,
but
but
the
but
probably
the
most
important
part
of
that
whole
equation
is
that
right
now
we
don't
have
those
that
are
in
jail
that
are
in
for
minor
offenses
I
mean
our
our
driving.
You
know
our
Traffic
Offenders,
our
misdemeanors
they're,
not
sitting
in
jail,
so
I'm
not
going
to
let
class
one
felony
out
to
go
pick
up
trash
with
the
thought
of
him.
Possibly
you
know
he
he's
looking
at
prison
time.
J
You
know
the
the
gist
of
that
program
was
for
low-level
offenders,
who
you
know
they
they
volunteered.
It
was
all
volunteer.
We
did
not
make
anybody
do
anything
they
didn't
want
to,
but
they
were
low-level
offenders
who,
basically,
they
were
able
to
get
outside,
have
a
smoke
break.
Have
maybe
a
fast
food
lunch
as
opposed
to
lunch
at
the
jail
which
isn't
bad
by
the
way?
But
fast
food
is
always
better,
and
so
there
were
a
lot
of
advantages
to
having
it.
J
F
J
J
The
miles
aren't
that
high.
Those
are
the
vans
that
we
take
when
we
transport
to
basically
out
of
County
when
we
go
to
Chicago
when
we
go
to
Champaign
and
we
go
to
Indiana
for
the
federal
transports,
all
the
other
vehicles
we
have
are
all
local.
In
other
words,
we
don't
transport
them
very
far
from
Kankakee
County
because
of
their
age
their
miles
and
the
shape
that
they're
in
they
are
very
well
cared
for.
Our
vehicle
maintenance
guy
does
a
great
job
with
them,
but
you
know
it
becomes
an
issue
of.
J
Do
we
want
to
put
something
on
the
road?
That's
got
150
000
miles
and
is
about
five
or
six
years
old,
so
my
my
request
would
be
that
if
we
order
Vans,
if
we
were
to
be
able
to
order
Vans
if
we
were
to
get
permission
to
order
Vans
as
I
said,
we
don't
know
when
those
vans
will
come
in,
it
could
be
90
days.
It
could
be
two
years.
J
If
we
order
a
number
of
Vans
and
that
number
we
can
certainly
discuss
I
would
suggest
ordering
five
and
here's
why
we
have
a
better
chance
of
getting
some
vans
of
those
five.
If
we
were
to
get
all
five.
Obviously
that
would
be
costly
right
now.
The
cost
is
about
forty,
nine
thousand
dollars
per
van
and
that's
before
putting
the
putting
the
equipment
in
the
back
to
house
prisoners
during
transport.
J
So
you're,
probably
talking
more
like
about
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
per
van
by
the
time.
It's
all
said
and
done,
I
say
five
and
I
know
that
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money,
but
based
on
the
information
that
I
received
from
the
other
counties
and
I
received
numerous
numerous
responses,
because
nobody
can
get
Vans
I
would
suggest
we
order
five.
If
they
come
in,
we
can
deal
with
that
then,
and
we
can
even
look
to
those
other
counties
to
say:
hey.
We
have
a
van,
it's
brand
new.
J
If
you
want
it,
so
we
do
have
a
mechanism
to
get
rid
of
it.
I
say
five
because
we
may
get
two
in
90
days.
We
may
get
two
or
three
more
in
three
years,
two
years,
so
it's
just
a
crap
shoot,
unfortunately,
and
and
it's
not
going
to
change
anytime
soon,
so
I
I
would
like
this
to
move
forward,
and
then
we
can
talk
about
how
many,
if
we
should
just
order
two
and
be
done
with
it
or
if
we
should
order
the
five
and
see
what
happens.
A
K
No
I
don't
have
a
comment
if
the
the
sheriff
has
that
that
that
plan
I
think
we
should
throw
it
to
finance
and
have
them
kind
of
hash
it
out
between
now
and
then
and
I
I
see
his
point.
I
know
it's
impossible
to
find
these
vehicles,
but
wow
at
400
Grand,
it's
a
lot,
so
we
have
to
no
no
doubt
yeah.
We
have
to
consider
that
and
but
it
might
be
a
strategic
decision
we
make
can't
we
use,
like
you
know
some
1977
VW
Microsoft.
K
J
K
Well,
the
and
this
is
not
being
critical,
but
it's
just
the
to
highlight
the
situation.
We
we
got
a
an
animal
control
pickup
that
we
still
can't
get
a
box
for
in
the
back
yeah.
You
know,
and
it's
that's
the
situation
I
worry
about
is,
is
you
know
we
got
the
vans
in
and
you
know
we're
kid.
We
can't
even
get
the
cage
made
well.
J
And
that,
but
that's
chairman,
that's
true
with
even
our
squad,
cars
I'm,
trying
to
get
light,
bars
and
and
everything
else
we're
waiting
on
some
of
those
Parts
as
we
as
we
are
building
out
the
squad
cars.
So
that's
just
a
common
theme
going
forward
and
it's
unfortunate.
But
you
know
that's
the
that's
where
we're
at
now.
K
I
guess
maybe
for
the
committee's
sake,
if,
if
we
were
ever
in
a
position
to
handle
this
type
of
uncertainty,
meaning
cash
on
hand,
it
would
be
now.
So
if
we
were
going
to
roll
the
dice,
there
is
no
better
time
you
know
to
to
do
this.
I
will
say
being
that
we
have
we're.
We
have
a
lot
of
cash
on
hand
and.
J
It
but
I
think
from
a
preparedness
standpoint,
I
think
that
would
benefit
us
in
the
long
term
and
the
other.
The
other
thing
we're
not
doing,
because
both
of
our
buses
are
have
I,
think
they
were
2005's
2006.
Maybe
we
contemplated
coming
here
to
ask
for
a
bus.
Those
things
are
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
plus
so
we're
better
off
getting
two
Vans
three
vans,
whatever,
as
opposed
to
two
more
buses.
So.
K
I
can
attest
to
the
need
Mr
chairman
I
just
want
to
mention.
I
was
you
know
one
of
the
cars
in
the
line
when
one
of
the
the
Vans
broke
down
on
the
exit
and
about
what
three
years
ago,
four
years
ago,
yeah
so
I
do
know
we
drew
we
literally
drive
them
into
the
ground.
You
know
so
I
can
imagine.
It
is
a
neat,
so
I
can
attest
to
that.
M
A
J
J
F
Just
a
little
comment:
I
know
my
uncle
at
one
point,
went
directly
to
the
factory
and
got
a
a
Ford
I,
remember,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
the
process
is
in
terms
of
ordering
them
and
getting
them
so
forth,
because
I
know
there's
a
pervasive
problem
universally
in
terms
of
supply
stuff.
You
know
problems
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
maybe
look
into
wherever
the
vehicles
are
assembled
now.
Maybe
there
could
be
something
because
I
know
my
uncle
went
to
the
factory
and
got
a
vehicle
we'll.
A
J
The
only
other
thing
I
got
and-
and
you
guys
already
recognized
him
but
I-
just
can't
tell
you
how
how
great
of
a
job
Jim
and
his
staff
did
his
his
civil
attorneys,
John
and
Teresa,
and
his
paralegals
Jody
and
Desiree
they.
They
worked
their
tails
off
for
this
and
and
what
they're
trying
to
do.
Isn't
it's
not
political,
it's
about
doing!
What's
right
for
our
community
and
what's
right
for
the
public
and
Public
Safety
and
I
can't
say
you
as
a
board
and
I
know
myself.
J
I
know:
I
am
I'm,
proud
that
he's
our
state's
attorney
and
and
and
they
did
a
great
job
yesterday
and
all
through
this
process.
So
and
for
those
of
you
that
were
wondering
about
the
and
I
know
Steve
you're,
going
to
ask
a
question
about
social
workers.
I
do
have
a
picture
of
somebody
climbing
through
a
window.
If
anybody,
if
anybody
wants
to
see
it
so
I.
J
Are
obviously
every
call
is
different?
That's
that's
probably
the
most
important
thing
to
keep
in
mind
and
in
a
lot
of
times,
there's
not
a
need
for
that
mental
health
person,
but
there
are
some
times
that
there
are.
Would
they
be
great
to
have
sure?
Would
they
get
in
the
way?
Sometimes
you
know
we're
dealing
right
now
and
I've
I.
Think
I
mentioned
this
committee
last
month
and
we
haven't
gotten
any
further
with
it.
J
To
give
you
an
example:
DCFS
who
goes
to
homes
without
police
and
they
literally
passed
legislation
in
the
governor's
side,
legislation
that
DCFS
can
contract
with
the
sheriff's
all
across
the
state
and
they
pay
for
everything
for,
for
that
Deputy
to
be
and
to
go
to
homes
and
to
do
some
background
on
the
homes
that
these
DCFS
agents
are
going
to
and
I
think
that's
that's
good
for
DCFS
we're
more
in
it.
They
they
want.
They
would
want
us
in
a
non-police
type
of
uniform.
J
They
would
want
us
in
a
polo
shirt,
so
you
get
that
whole
mix
of
well.
Do
you
want
the
police
there
or
do
you
want
somebody
standing
there
in
a
polo
shirt
with
a
gun
on
so
yeah
DCFS
agents
aren't
they're
not
trained
to
respond
to
things
that
are
going
to
happen
when
they
walk
up
to
a
door
and-
and
we
all
know
how
we
value
our
kids
and-
and
you
know
when
somebody
starts
walking
up
to
your
door,
wanting
to
take
your
kids.
How
are
you
going
to
feel
then?
J
J
So
that's
what
that's
now
you
know
the
first
thing
an
officer
does
when
he
gets
there
isn't
to
go
in
there,
bang
on
the
door
and
and
pull
somebody
out.
The
first
thing,
they're
doing
is
figuring
out
how
they
want
to
de-escalate
a
situation.
So
you
know
it
will:
will
a
mental
health
person
help?
Yes,
is
it
realistic
to
find
Mental
Health
trained
people
to
respond
when
we
respond
I,
don't
know
how
realistic
that
is.
It
sounds
great
how.
A
J
You
not
only
the
mental
health
but
also
the
de-escalation
part
of
it,
which
is
you
know.
Obviously
that's
what
you
want
to
do
from
the
from
the
I.
Don't
want
to
say
olden
days,
because
I
was
probably
around
then,
but
you
know
when,
when
you
go
in
there
and
start
putting
hands
on
somebody
right
away,
that's
not
the
first
thing
we
do
anymore
I.
N
N
J
O
A
O
Mr
long,
just
a
comment
not
trying
to
Trump
put
Sheriff
downings
had
to
say,
but
part
of
the
extension
of
the
training
down
at
PTI
is
that
type
of
training.
So
the
two
weeks
they're,
adding
on,
has
some
of
that
training
yes
extended
more
than
they
had
before
and
I
would
just
say
from
my
own
personal
experience
by
the
time.
The
call
goes
to
come
to
someone's
house
for
a
domestic
incident,
we're
not
going
to
sit
over
the
kitchen
table
and
talk
over
coffee
yeah.
It's
because
the
the
situation
is
beyond
management.
O
It's
about
our
own.
It's
volatile
and
and
most
times
it's
very
volatile,
so
I
think
the
important
thing
the
takeaway
is:
let
the
police
come.
Do
their
job
stabilize
and
figure
out
how
the
next
step
happens,
how
you
get
them
to
counseling?
How
do
you?
How
do
you
get
them
to
mend
their
differences?
So
if
you
will
and
that's
where
the
mental
health
person,
the
professional
probably
is
absolutely
appropriate,
but
the
night
of
that
call
dangerous,
very
dangerous,
dangerous.
A
L
J
J
They
bring
him
to
the
local
hospital
and
so
yeah
we're
doing
a
lot
of
that
mental
health
stuff
up
front
once
they
get
to
the
hospital
now,
unfortunately,
if
the
guy,
if
if
the
individual
doesn't
want
to
stay
at
the
hospital
he
doesn't
have
to
so
then
where
does
he
go
right
back
to
where
he
and
there's
been
times
where
we've
been
called
back
to
the
same
place
after
an
incident?
So.
A
Q
Thanks
Uber,
you
see
well,
February
was
a
short
month.
We're
down
a
number
of
calls.
Autopsy's
been
down,
I've
been
down
a
little
bit.
I
only
had
three
last
month
there,
which
is,
which
is
good
other
than
that
it's
self-explainable
I,
think
where
we're
at
we're
still
two
pending
on
the
on
the
drugs
yet
and
I'll.
Do
that
in
a
few
minutes.
A
Q
On
excuse
me
on
the
on
our
overdoses.
Right
now
we
got
hit
pretty
hard
in
January,
with
almost
14
of
them.
We
had,
which
is
unbelievable,
but
as
of
as
of
February,
see
that
we
we're
we're
down
on
February,
which
is
good
we've
been
out
and
about
throughout
the
county,
just
about
Monday
through
through
Friday
teaching,
to
the
seniors
to
the
kids,
the
high
schools
proms
coming
up.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
hit
people
to
let
them
know.
What's
out
there.
Q
Q
So
at
this
point
here,
I
wanted
to
talk
about
a
drug
that
I
know
Mr
101,
to
bring
up
about
the
new
drug
out
there
on
xylazine
thalazine
has
been
hitting
us
pretty
hard.
Lately,
it's
a
it's
a
drug
for
horses.
Basically,
it's
a
veterinarian
type
drug.
It's
a
non-opiate,
it's
kind
of
a
sedative
for
them.
A
muscle
relaxer
can
lower
your
blood
pressure,
but
the
key
part
of
it
is
not
a
controlled
substance.
Q
To
try
to
get
this
taken
care
of
where
we
could.
We
could
do
something
about
xylazine
we've
had
six
cases
in
Kankakee
County
and
what
agitates
me
is
that's
six
deaths
in
our
County
because
of
this
drug
and
I
warned
you
years
ago
in
2012
about
the
heroin
coming
and
now
we
have
the
xylocine.
It's
mixed
with
cocaine
and
Fentanyl
as
a
dead
called
a
deadly
drug
right
there,
two
deadly
drugs
we've
talked
about
it
all.
Q
Q
Q
P
Q
Well,
basically,
that's
basically
what
we're
doing
out.
There
is
talking
about
the
signs
and
symptoms
of
we've
even
talked
about
years
ago.
We
brought
a
heroin
trailer
into
this
area
and
showed,
basically
it
was
a
bedroom
wise
or
where
people
hide
their
drugs,
kids
hide
their
drugs,
and
it
was
so
interesting
to
see
we're
on
a
light
light
switch
there.
They
put
a
piece
of
string
on
all
their
drugs
and
sent
it
down,
and
you
would
never
even.
Q
Q
We've
hit
all
the
schools,
except
for
Bradley,
we're
due
to
go
into
McNamara
here,
pretty
quick
to
talk
about
all
this
stuff
and
what's
going
on
and
you
can
hear
a
pin
drop
when
you
talk
and
it's
something
that
anytime,
you
have
somebody
in
your
ward
or
that
you
want
me
to
come
in
to
talk
about
it
in
front
of
your
people.
Your
your
area,
I,
would
be
more
happy
to
any
time
of
the
day.
K
Yes,
I
I
I've
heard
about
this
a
little
bit
before
in
I,
wonder
if
Corner
dresser
could
confirm,
but
when
Mrs
throttle
asks
you
know
what
can
you
do?
Well,
I,
listen
for
the
word
trank,
because
that's
what
people
call
it
on
the
street,
it's
called
train
and
if
you
hear
your
kids
saying
that,
that's
when
you
need
to
realize
that
you're
in
a
whole
different
world
and
I,
don't
know
if
that's
just
in
certain
parts
of
the
country,
but
that
is
the
common
slang.
K
I
Q
When
that
came
in
here,
it
blew
everything
apart
again,
so
we're
we're
trying
to
hold
it
down
as
I
say
that
we're
we're
low
right
now.
But
if
we
again,
if
we,
if
we
bring
that
number
all
the
way
out
to
November
there,
that's
going
to
be
another
50
ODS
again
and
that's
reducing
everything.
It's
like.
A
Q
L
Q
Yeah
I
I'm,
but
you
know
Narcan
is
not
going
to
save
you
with
xylazine,
or
so
it's
worth
a
try,
because
it
could
be
mixed
with
cocaine
and
Fentanyl
to
help
it.
But
that's
why
it's
a
essential
that
you
call
9-1-1
and
get
that
Squad
there.
So
it's
something
that
that's
disappointing
and
that's
something
I
bring
out
too.
That's
that's
not
going
to
help
you
with
that,
but
yet
continue
to
try
I've
seen
some
pull
out
of
it.
So
well,
thanks
for
doing
what
you
do.
Thank
you.
Mr.