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Criminal Justice Committee Meeting 10/14/2020 7:30 AM
A
No
public
comment
this
time.
I'd
like
to
take
and
get
a
motion
to
combine
all
the
reports
for
the
approval
of
minutes
circuit,
clerk's
report
states,
attorney's
office,
the
grand
jury
and
grand
jury,
statistics
report,
public
defenders,
monthly
report,
probation
monthly
report,
the
sheriff's
monthly
report
and
the
coroner's
monthly
report
of
money,
the
receipt
of
money
and
the
monthly
report
take
a
motion
to
approve
all
them.
Mr
long
second,
by
mr
hunter,
we're
going
to
discuss
them
and
then
we'll
take
a
vote
at
the
end.
A
D
D
My
regular
end-of-period
listing
report
there's
nothing
more
exciting.
We
brought
we
disbursed
415
000,
so
that's
pretty
good
month
for
the
month
of
september,
the
recovery
report
you
can
see
with
the
harrison
harris
and
the
local
debt
recovery.
It
was
only
forty
one
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
so
it
looks
like
the
the
the
times
have
caught
up
to
us.
As
far
as
the
collection
goes,
the
open
inventory
from
harrison
harris
we've
turned
over
1400
cases
in
traffic,
so
you
know
we're
still
cruising
right,
along
with
at
least
turning
them
over.
D
Okay,
I
wanted
to
tell
you,
too,
that
we
did
an
amnesty
program
again
with
harrison
harris
on
september
14th
through
30th,
and
what
that
means.
Is
they
the
people
that
wanted
to
come
in
and
pay
off
a
whole
ticket?
They
could
do
that
without
getting
the
30
charge.
D
So
on
the
summary
page,
that's
kind
of
an
easier
one
to
look
at
and
if
you
want
to
delve
into
the
daily
I've
provided
all
that
information
as
well,
but
we
processed
107,
298
dollars
and
five
cents
in
13
days
and
those
other
pages
show
you
exactly
how
many
tickets
I
put
the
ticket
number
the
date,
the
ticket
number
and
how
much
each
one
of
them
paid.
I
didn't
feel
you
know
if
you
really
wanted
to
dive
in
and
see
who
had
these
tickets?
D
That's
fine,
but
for
this
purpose
you
know
I
just
wanted
to
show
the
totals
of
each
day
day.
Nine
was
a
really
good
day
and
day.
12,
11
and
12
were
really
good
days
as
well.
So
that
saved
the
people
a
lot
of
money.
They
were
able
to
pay
their
tickets.
A
lot
of
them
were
able
to
get
the
releases
to
go
back
to
the
dmv
to
get
their
licenses.
So
that's
a
pretty
good,
pretty
good
thing.
We
try
to
do
it
once
a
year
and
that's
about
it.
D
Yeah
well,
just
the
computerization
is
the
same
story
as
it's
been.
We,
the
two
vendors
have
been
they've,
decided
to
work
together
and
then
once
we
are
needed,
they
will
bring
us
back
into
the
picture.
So
as
soon
as
I
hear
anything
more
I'll,
let
you
know.
D
D
Everyone
thinks
we
started
in
2016
and
it
was
really
closer
to
2017,
but
that
still
doesn't
make
up
for
the
fact
that
it's
still
not
done
but
they're
still
working
on
it
and
that's
the
best.
I
have
right
now
have.
D
F
Your
vendors
are,
they,
are
you
restricted
as
to
those
vendors?
Are
there
any
competitor
vendors
out
there
that
can
probably
put
the
heat
under
the
the
under
the
current
vendors
to
basically
either
do
what
they
have
to
do
or
you
can
you
know
you
have
another
alternative?
F
D
D
All
of
the
you
know,
the
sheriff,
the
state's
attorney,
the
public
defender,
my
office
and
the
original
plan
was
to
bring
in
probation
too
and
have
a
combined
system
where
we
could
all
work
together.
D
So
that
was
already
in
place
when
I
became
clerk
and
then
the
bottom
fell
out
in
the
the
finances
of
the
county,
because
we
were
going
to,
I
guess
their
plan
was
to
you
know,
eventually
upgrade
and
keep
up
with
the
times
and
move
to
a
within
the
same
company.
A
more
advanced
system,
and
that
didn't
happen
then
comes
along
with
the
supreme
court
of
illinois,
who
decided
that
they
wanted
a
unified
system
in
the
state.
D
So
what
they
did
is
they
chose
tyler
technologies,
so
each
county
has
their
own
vendor
and
then
the
state
has
one
vendor,
and
so
we
are
required
to
connect
to
that
vendor.
So
that's
where
the
problem
lies
and
then
the
other
problem
is
that
we
are
the
only
county
when
we
started
this
venture.
I
believe
it
was
the
goal
of
the
case
management
system
to
acquire
other
counties
within
the
state
and
it
hasn't
happened,
and
so
we
are
the
sole
county
that
has
this
case
management
system.
D
So
whenever
they
do
the
programming
it's
just
for
us,
it's
not
for
a
group
of
people,
so
you
know
good
is
the
one
that
iroquois
county
has
and
they
have
probably
70
percent
of
the
state.
And
then
you
know
there's
a
couple:
others
that
are
kind
of
moving.
You
know
gaining
momentum,
but
we
have
our
system
and
and
we're
going
to
have
it
for
another
at
least
10
years,
so
we're
at
where
we're
at
and
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
so.
B
Brenda
hi
hi
good
morning,
so
you
didn't
actually
choose
the
vendor.
A
G
You
can
see
that
through
grand
jury,
we've
indicted
approximately
274
felonies.
Yes,
hello,
hello,.
G
Sorry,
it
says
the
internet
connection's
unstable
here:
we've
we've
indicted
approximately
274
felonies
through
september.
G
right,
that's
a
pretty
significant
number,
despite
cobit
and
I'm
doing
away
with
grand
jury
for
a
few
months,
we're
now
reduced,
but
we're
running
we're
still
charging
about
the
same
as
we
did
last
year,
the
only
other
year
in
the
county's
history,
where
there
were
more
felonies
charged
through
september,
was
actually
last
year
we
were
at
686
different
manner,
we're
running
a
lot
more
cases
through
preliminary
hearings
as
opposed
to
grand
jury,
so
632
felonies
here
today,
605
misdemeanors
and
about
20
of
those
felony
cases
are
felony
domestic
batteries
and
just
as
a
reminder,
become
a
felony
in
a
domestic
battery
situation,
you're
either
a
repeat
offender,
so
you
have
a
prior
conviction
for
domestic
battery.
G
You
caught
bodily
harm
to
the
victim
or
it's
a
domestic
battery
involving
strangulation.
G
G
Is
still
that
high
any
any
questions
about
the
grand
jury
is
depending
on
how
things
go
with
covet,
to
look
at
maybe
going
back
to
grand
juries
in
january,
unless
some
thing
drastic
happens,
that's
at
least
the
hope
we
would
start
back
with
the
grand
jury
process
in
january,
which
means
we'd
be
back
to
every
other
month.
That
would
free
up
a
lot
of
time.
G
The
courtrooms
that
are
is
currently
being
spent
on
preliminary
hearings
and
I'm
very
thankful
to
the
public
defender's
office
they've
been
great
to
work
with
on
scheduling,
preliminary
hearings
and
very
fair
in
how
those
have
been
going
forward
beyond
that.
I
also
want
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
the
juvenile
mentoring
program.
G
Just
briefly,
we
are
in
a
kind
of
a
standstill
as
far
as
connecting
mentors
with
mentees
due
to
the
pandemic,
but
we
are
recruiting
mentors,
so
we
can
get
them
in
queue
and
once
we're
comfortable
with
in-person
meetings
again,
we
want
to
be
ready
to
go
so
that
that
means
we're.
Looking
for
mentors
to
sign
up,
you
go
to
k3sao.com,
they
can
go
to
the
jump,
click
the
jump
button,
which
is
juvenile
mentoring
program.
G
Just
just
ask
your
name
number
why
you
want
to
be
a
mentor
once
you've
signed
up
you'll,
get
a
link
to
participate
in
your
informational
session
and
then
the
training
once
you've
been
trained,
you're
ready
to
go,
and
then
we
can
find
a
mentee
to
match
you
up
with
now.
We'll
do
so
we're
really
hoping
to
get
a
lot
of
mentors
on
board.
We've
got
just
probably
under
300
juveniles
in
the
juvenile
court
system.
H
Hello,
hey
yeah,
jim,
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
you
know
you've
got
some
internet
issues
there.
It
speeds
up
and
slows
down
it's
going
from
slurred
speech
to
way
too
much
caffeine.
It
goes
back
and
forth
on
you,
so
the
ques
I
did
have
a
question
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
take
you
to
log
out
and
log
back
in
maybe
too
or.
H
Can
call
you
on
the
phone?
It's
it's.
It's
jumping
all
over
the
place
on
you.
I
just
was
finding
out.
I
think
you
said
we're
not
doing
grand
jury
and
I
was
wondering
why
why
we're
not
doing
grand
jury,
but
that
was
gonna
be
my
question,
but
he
said.
G
Go
ahead,
jim
if
it
starts
to
break
up
again
just
call
my
office
phone,
it's
936-58255
and
I
can
jump
on
there,
but
we
are
having
grand
jury.
We're
only
doing
it
once
a
month.
Okay,
just
reduce
the
number
of
times
that
we're
gathering
that
size
crowd
in
a
in
a
room.
E
Mr
state's
attorney,
I've
been
impressed
with
the
activities
of
mr
littlert
in
your
office.
Can
you
expound
to
the
commissioners
and
and
those
who
are
within
earshot
about
his
activities
and
the
progress
and
the
impact
he's
making
in
in
the
county
macro.
G
Just
to
remind
everyone,
mr
lillard
is
the
employee
that
we
received
through
a
grant
partnership
with
district
111.
So
mr
leward
is
community
outreach.
Specialist
he's
working
with
some
kids
in
the
community
he's
gotten
some
kids
that
were
actually
out
on
warrants
not
only
to
turn
themselves.
G
I
J
J
C
All
right,
if
anyone
has
a
question,
someone's
gonna,
have
to
wait
on
the
screen,
because
I
can't
I
can't
hear
it
on
the
computer
now
so.
Mr
lillard,
the
community
outreach
specialist
in
our
office
assigned
through
district
111,
so
they
pay
for
his
salary.
He's
been
working
with
a
lot
of
youth
in
the
community.
He's
gotten
a
few
kids
actually
to
not
only
turn
themselves
in
who
were
wanted
on
warrants,
but
also
to
get
back
on
schedule
with
not
only
school
but
also
athletic.
C
Yep
next
was
mobile
victim
witness
what
that
is.
We
have
our
traditional
victim
witness
division.
Those
are
advocates
in
the
office
who
you
know,
work
alongside
victims,
as
they
progress
as
their
case
progresses
through
the
court
system,
as
well
as
witnesses.
They
kind
of
keep
everybody
on
board
and
corral
everyone
at
trial,
but
they
also
provide
access
to
resources
for
victims
and
that's
a
big
need.
You
know
if
you're
a
victim
and
you
you
want
to
transition
them
into
a
survivor.
C
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
starting
to
bring
those
services
out
into
the
community,
so
on
most
friday
afternoons
you'll
see
our
victim
witness
advocates
somewhere
across
the
county.
This
friday
they're
going
to
be
at
the
lessou
center
le
soup
pastoral
center
in
kankakee.
We
were
out
in
herscher
last
week.
I
believe
we
were
in
pembroke
hopkins
park
the
week
before
we've
got
some
dates
coming
up
in
mantino,
so
we'll
be
all
over
the
county.
C
C
They
dump
it
into
the
sharepoint
drive,
which
is
a
cloud-based
server
for
because
I
don't
know
what
else
to
call
it
and
then
our
on
our
end,
our
staff
is
able
to
access
it
immediately,
download
those
documents
in
a
electronic
file,
so
the
only
files
that
are
actually
getting
printed
are
cases
that
ultimately
are
charged
if
the
case
is
no
charge
just
kept
in
an
electronic
format.
C
We're
also
planning
in
the
future
to
allow
the
public
defender's
office
and
the
private
bar
to
access
discovery
in
the
same
manner,
so
each
attorney
potentially
could
have
a
drive
on
that
sharepoint
and
when
we
have
to
tender
discovery.
Instead
of
you
know,
printing
a
thousand
pages
copying
a
bunch
of
dvds
and
then
having
to
mail
that
stuff
at
increased
expense
we'd
be
able
to
just
drop
it
in
the
sharepoint
drive
and
give
opposing
counsel
access
to
it.
So
something
we're
working
on
implementing
we
started.
C
I
believe,
with
bourbon
a
mantino
city,
sheriff's
department
and
bradley,
as
we
work
out
some
of
the
quirks
in
the
system
and
try
to
perfect
that
process.
We'll
then
bring
in
more
of
the
more
rural
departments
as
well
and
I'll
probably
say.
I
think
it's
going
to
save
a
lot
of
time
to
keep
officers
on
the
street
as
opposed
to
having
them
drive.
You
know
from
grant
park
to
drop
off
documents
here
in
our
office.
F
Good
morning,
jim
good
morning,
though,
I
love
technology
technology
sometimes
can
not
work
properly,
and
do
we
have
a
backup
to
the
backup
if
that
basically
happens
like
maybe
everything
is
being
backed
up
to
a
thumb
drive
or
something
where
it
can
be
reinstalled
or
or
at
least
assets.
C
We
do
first,
you
have
two-factor
authentication,
so
there's
security
built
into
the
system
and
then
once
documents
are
loaded
into
sharepoint
and
we
receive
them
on
our
end
or
if
we
load
up,
let's
say
an
investigation
request
that
the
department
receives
on
their
end.
Those
documents
are
immediately
removed
from
that
sharepoint
and
put
onto
our
internal
servers
and
then,
of
course,
you
always
have
at
the
department.
You
would
have
the
backup
files
as
well.
A
C
One
last
thing
I
want
to
say:
I
want
to
thank
coroner.
Gessner
corner
gesture
testified
recently
in
our
drug
induced
homicide
trial,
and
the
judge
actually
commented
during
his
ruling.
That
corner
was
able
to
provide
him
with
a
lot
of
information
and
statistics
that
he
wasn't
otherwise.
Aware
of,
I
think
that
was
a
great
benefit
to
us,
provided
some
additional
perspective
to
the
judge
on
the
heroin
pandemic
in
the
county
and
in
addition
to
his
testimony.
In
that
case,
I
just
can't
say
enough
about
all
the
hard
work
he's
done
on
this
issue.
C
He
was
one
of
the
first
in
the
area
to
start
talking
about
it
back
in
2010
2011
and
has
been
relentless
ever
since.
So
thank
you
to
coroner
gessner
for
his
leadership
on
that
and
for
being
willing
to
testify
in
that
most
recent
sentencing.
E
Mr
hunter,
thank
you
very
much
attorney
row.
I
I
like
the
partnership.
In
fact
I
saw
coroner
gestner,
and
he
shared
with
me
is-
is
that
I
guess
it
was
his
testimony
which
you
just
referred
to.
Additionally,
I,
like
the
innovative
things
that
you're
doing
regarding
doing
things
outside
the
box.
E
You
know:
saving
the
taxpayers
and
saving
the
counties,
a
budget
in
terms
of
some
of
the
innovative
things
that
you're
doing
and-
and
I
just
want
to
say,
kudos
oftentimes
when
having
been
in
government,
we
hear
the
bad
things
and
never
extol
the
the
positive
virtues
of
the
department
heads
who
are
doing
things
that
impact
in
a
positive
way,
the
the
taxpayers
dollars.
And
how
are
you
expending
those
and
also
doing
things
that
don't
encumber
expenditures
and
save
the
taxpayers
money?
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
It's
it's
definitely.
You
know
it's
team
effort,
marlow
melody
built
in
my
office.
I've
been
instrumental
in
that
paperless
project
and
really
all
of
these
programs
are
just
not
possible
without
teamwork
and
that's,
including
public
defender,
ed
pennowick
sandy
fiance,
our
circuit
clerk,
our
sheriff
tom
latham,
with
probation
just
all
across
the
board.
Everybody,
I
think,
is
working
together
really
well.
K
Excuse
me,
I
filed
the,
I
guess
I'll
jump
right
into
it.
The
public
defender
report
for
last
month
we're
kind
of
just
kind
of
moving
along
right.
Now,
I
think,
with
colbit.
I
think
things
are
actually
going
very
well.
All
things
considered,
I
agree
with
mr
rowe
that
things
are
going
very
well
as
far
as
working
with
in
the
offices
and
working
within
the
confines
of
what
we're
being
given
right.
K
Now,
I'm
just
going
to
go
on
kind
of
a
narrative
here,
but
regarding
the
prelims
they're
they're
very
time
intensive,
they
require
everyone
to
stop
what
they're
doing
and
focus
exclusively
on
on
those
it
takes
a
court
time.
It
takes
up
time
for
my
office
state's
attorney's
office.
K
Also,
very
importantly,
the
sheriff's
department
has
to
accommodate
all
of
us.
The
prelims
happen
quickly,
so
I
in
my
office
have
very
limited
time
to
reach
out
to
the
client.
We
try
to
get
the
clients
to
waive
preliminary
hearing
when
legally
appropriate.
We
don't
want
to
fight
fights
that
we
cannot
win
and
we
do
not
want
to
use
resources
and
time
that
there's
no
benefit
for
so
if
a
case
can
be
waived,
we
try
to
do
that.
But,
given
the
fact,
it's
such
a
quick
turnaround
time.
K
K
So
you
know
if
we
have
to
do
prelims,
we
have
to
do
prelims,
and
I
accept
that
reality,
but
I
think
we
all
know
now
that
that's,
unfortunately,
it's
just
a
different
way
to
do
things
and
it's
very
time
intensive
the
discovery,
and
I
you
know
being
half
facetious,
but
obviously,
if
mr
roll
can
do
it,
paperless
at
some
point
paper
is
gonna
have
to
be
generated.
We
have
to
go
through
the
documents
with
our
clients
that
can
be
done
on
a
computer,
but
it
can
be
difficult
also.
K
I
think
it
will
save
some
money
on
dvds
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
at
some
point
something's
got
to
get
printed
up.
You
know
we
can't
go.
I
mean
I
can't
go
walking
into
trial
with
a
thumb
drive
and
the
computer
and
work
the
case
up
properly.
I'm
going
to
need
hard
paperwork,
I'm
going
to
need
highlighting
things
tabbing
things
flipping
through
papers.
You
know
if
you
have
100
pages
worth
of
documents.
K
As
we
all
know,
some
people
are
very
adept
at
going
through
it
with
the
computer,
but
if
you
have
it
tab,
you
just
open
up
that
page.
You
know
page
58
bam
you're
there.
So
if
to
some
degree,
whatever
money
mr
rose
says
on
that
paperwork
is
going
to
come
back
on
my
side.
So
just
so
you
guys
know
that
for
future
reference
and
other
than
that
I
mean
things
are
going
like
I
said
relatively
well.
K
Jury
trials
are
going
on
we're
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
to
move
the
cases
and
I
think
we're
doing
a
lot
better.
I
know
we're
doing
a
lot
better
than
other
counties.
I
I
have
a
couple
contacts
throughout
the
state
and
you
know,
jury
trials
are
still
being
suspended
or
they're
being
done
very
sparsely.
So
I
think
the
county
is
doing
very
well
as
far
as
making
this
thing
work
is
better,
probably
better
than
most
others
in
the
state.
E
So
I
got
a
lot
of
questions
mr
pinawick,
looking
at
your
your
workforce,
what
is
it,
how
does
it
reflect
the
demographics
of
the
county?
Additionally,
do
you
have
any
kind
of
internship
for
third-year
law
students
at
all?
You
know.
I
know
my
nephew
was
involved
in
the
internship
and
and
now
I
think,
last
week
he
took
the
bar
graduated
from
loyola
law
school,
but
anyway
I
recognize
a
lot
of
the
names
as
far
as
staff.
E
But
can
you
give
me
the
demographics
or
the
percentages
in
terms
of
how
it
reflects
and
on
the
county,
demographics.
K
Sure,
mr
hunter,
basically
right
now,
I
think,
put
him
on
the
spot.
I
should
know
this,
but
basically
it's
I'm
gonna
round
up
and
just
say:
50
50,
men
and
woman.
Right
now.
We
have
no
african-americans
attorneys
within
our
office.
The
last
one
we
had,
as
we
know,
jumped
shipped
to
mr
rowe
and
and
that's
fine
and
I'm
cool
with
that,
but
he
was
our
last
african-american
attorney
hiree.
The
staff
we've
got
carmen.
Obviously
who've
been
here
forever.
Alonzo
brown.
K
I
was
our
alonzo
bryson,
who
is
our
investigator
they're,
both
african-americans?
We
have
one
hispanic
woman
who
is
a
clerical
staff
bunnette
and
other
than
that?
It's
it.
It's
all
a
bunch
of
you
know
just
regular.
You
know
people
and
caucasian
people.
So
I
I
agree.
It's
mr
hunter.
I
agree
it's
an
issue.
I've
been
interviewing
people
for
you
know.
If
and
when
an
open,
open
or
a
vacancy
opens
up.
You
know
I
had
a
couple
of
african-americans
apply
and
they
were
actually
excellent
candidates.
K
One,
I
know
has
already
gotten
alternative
employment,
which
doesn't
surprise
me
given
her
qualifications,
but
they
have
gotten
some
applications,
and
you
know
it's
always
in
the
back
of
my
mind,
because
it
is
relevant.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
an
office
to
just
reflect
the
community.
You
know,
kankakee
is
a
very
diverse
county
and
I
think
you
know
should
be
made
to
make
sure
that
the
officers
are
also
equally
diverse.
Yeah.
E
I
just
think
there
should
be
some
kind
of
affirmative
initiative
to
interface.
You
know
with
that
schools
that
which
are
have
a
significant
or
a
portion
of
their
law
students
or
who
look
like
me
and
individuals
who
speak
a
foreign
language.
E
K
Internship
but
she's
been
replaced
by
bridget
bertrand.
I
create
her
name
now
or
is
it
bridgette,
but
I
worked
with
her
back
in
the
day,
so
I
look
forward
to
working
with
her
at
the
kcc
at
the
community
college
level
as
far
as
7-eleven
interns,
which
is
what
you're
talking
about
alderman.
I'm
sorry,
mr.
E
K
It
changes
I
know,
but
I'm
always
you
know.
Obviously
that's
always
a
resource.
That's
out
there.
We
did
not
get
up
to
speed
last
year,
so
we
missed
that
opportunity,
the
one
we
got
at
7-eleven
working
here
now,
but
as
soon
as
she
passes
the
bar,
she
will
replace
mr
johnson
as
soon
as
she
passes,
but
she's
currently
7-eleven
but
yeah.
Of
course,
it's
obviously
a
resource.
Logistically,
it's
difficult.
K
I
know
mr
oh
does
have
had
a
couple
of
local
individuals
working
in
a
sub-alum
capacity
and
you
know
there's
logistical
concerns
as
far
as
you
know,
commuting
and
so
forth.
But,
oh
absolutely
it's
something
I
need
to
look
into.
You
know,
starting
I'm
gonna,
say
starting
next
law
school
term.
As
far
as
that
goes
we'll
talk,
we'll
talk,
sir.
Oh
yeah.
F
I
would
be
interested,
I
I
had
a
niece
and
she's
graduating
from
northern
and
from
law
school,
and
she
called
me
to
do
an
internship
in
chicago,
but
what
I
am
after
listening
to
the
debate
last
night
and
also
more
specifically,
to
judge
dickerson.
F
These
students
are
coming
out
with
rather
hefty
student
loans,
and
so
the
question
would
be:
are
our
salaries
competitive
for
first-year
law,
students
that
are
stepping
out
to
be
able
to
have
an
apartment,
but
at
the
same
time
pay
off
these?
These
challenging
student
loans.
K
Now
there
is
a
deferment
in
place
for
people
who
work
for
the
government.
I
know
mr
rowe
has
at
least
one
employee
who's
currently
taking
advantage
of
that
program.
So
that's
out
there.
That's
for
my
understanding
is
as
for
graduates,
people
were
actually
graduating
law,
school
and
or
in
the
public
sector.
I
do
not
know
if
mr
rowe
is
paying
7-elevens
that
he
has
working
for
him
or
they're
just
getting
a
law
school
credit.
K
I
don't
know
that
I
mean
financially,
I
can't
imagine
being
able
to
budget
for
a
first-year
law,
student
or
second-year
law
student
from
an
as
far
as
a
summer,
internship
or
things
of
that
nature,
the
third
year
7-elevens,
you
know
they
they
can
go
to
court
under
certain
circumstances.
They
can
litigate
under
certain
circumstances.
K
F
E
A
E
My
final
comment
with
all
due
respect-
let
me
say
this:
I
know
it's
very
difficult.
I
know
my
my
nephew,
my
brother,
who
used
to
sit
on
on
the
county
board
as
well
before
he
graduated
from
loyal
university
law
school
he
had
offers
in,
I
think,
ohio
or
somewhere,
but
he's
almost
going
to
be
making
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
You
know
that's
before
he
even
got
out.
E
He
had
a
full
ride
offered
at
ohio
state,
but
he
you
said
that
it
was
a
little
bit
too
far
a
little
bit
too
big
of
a
school
that
he
didn't
want
to
attend.
But
you
know
it's
difficult
when
it
when
it
comes
to
salaries.
Commissioner,
I
understand
what
you're
saying
and
it's
my
understanding
that
my
nephew
was
gonna.
He
had
an
offer
to
work,
for,
in
fact
he
did
an
internship
or
some
stuff
with
kim
fox.
E
Now
I
think,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
he's
going
to
be
working
for
kwame
raoul,
the
attorney
general,
but
all
I'm
saying
guys
is
that
we
have
to
put
our
affirmative
initiative
hats
on
to
address
the
the
demographic
needs
of
our
county.
I
see
some
positive
things
happening.
E
I
I
I
see
if
you
walk
into
rose
office,
it
looks
like
the
united
nations
and
and
that
very
pleasing
to
the
eye
when
you
walk
in
and
see
that
rome
wasn't
built
in
a
day,
but
my
39
years
with
the
state
of
illinois
dealt
with
a
lot
of
diversity,
investigation
of
violations
of
contracts,
employment
opportunities
and
all
that
stuff.
So
it
can
be
done.
We
just
have
to
put
that
on
on
the
front
burner
in
terms
of
that
being
those
being
priorities
that
we
must
address.
E
A
A
K
Right
now,
but
I
did
forget
that
she's
also
worked
she's,
our
most
senior
public
defender
here
and
obviously
she
is
an
african-american
woman.
So
I
forgot
all
about
karen
and
I
apologize.
H
That
was
that
was
one
thing
I
was
going
to
mention.
The
this
committee
should
know
and
I'll
reaffirm
it
again
since
since
ed's
predecessor
and
I
had
talked
and
that
ed
and
I
have
talked-
and
we
have
talked
with
as
a
committee,
the
the
the
goal
that
we
have
is
to
have,
instead
of
part-time
public
defenders
that
are
at
35
000
a
year,
which
is
a
little
bit
less
than
200
grand
a
year
out
of
law,
school
just
a
tad,
but
they
get
benefits
and
they
get
a
pension.
H
So
there
is,
there
is
an
enticement
to
get
people
into
the
public
defender
side
of
things
on
a
part-time
basis.
We
would
like
to
move
towards
full-time
public
defenders
and
what
we
have
to
offer
here,
that
other
places
don't
have
to
offer
to
those
people
coming
out
of
law.
School
is
you're,
getting
courtroom
experience
when
you
go
to
some
of
these
other
places,
sure
you
make
more
money,
but
you're
not
getting
courtroom
experience
a
lot
of
the
times
until
down
the
road.
H
So
it
is
a
career
path.
But
then
what
is
ed's
job
is
is
he's
a
mentor
and
a
teacher
on
a
constantly
rotating
basis
of
shuffling
people
in
and
out.
That
may
be
a
way
to
get
people
to
stick
with
us
for
five
to
ten
years
until
they
want
to
move
on
to
that
next
stage
of
their
career.
So
we
talk
about
kids
out
of
law
school,
the
ones
that
want
courtroom
experience.
We
look
good
to
them.
H
You
know
to
be
able
to
invest
in
coming
down
here
from
the
city
or
wherever
they're
coming
from.
So
if
I
misspoke
there
at
all
ed,
let
me
know,
but
that's
what
we've
talked
about
over
the
last
four
years
of
getting
to
the
point
where
we
have
half
as
many
public
defenders
roughly
but
they're,
all
full-time,
full-time
right.
K
Yep,
that's
yeah.
As
far
as
the
that's
the
traditional
path
from
graduating
law
school,
you
gotta,
you
got
a
government
job,
you'd
see
it's
attorney
or
public
defender
you're,
you
earn
your
stripes,
you
know
and
you
cut
your
teeth
and
then
you
know
five
years
from
not
now
or
you
know,
seven
years
from
now
you
move
on.
That's
definitely
a
very
common
path.
Logistically
with
part-timers.
You
know
it's
hard
to
get
someone
down
here
for
that
salary
and
then
have
them.
They
would
have
to
set
up
a
private
practice.
K
You
know,
as
an
outsider,
it's
very
difficult.
So
it's
hard
to
recruit.
You
know
new
people
from
the
outside
for
a
part-time
position.
It's
just
difficult
to
do
so.
That's
another
reason.
Another
benefit
to
having
full-time
positions
is
that
people
do
commit
to
the
community.
You
know
that
they
do
come
down
and
then
they
live
here
and
you
know
they
they
they
become
a
member
of
our
community.
So
it's
definitely
a
benefit
for
everybody.
F
And
off
all
fairness,
because
I
would
say
that
was
then
this
is
now
you
know
all
students.
Back
in
the
day,
there
was
more
opportunity.
We
didn't
have
the
2018
fiasco,
but
now
putting
a
lot
of
constraints.
You
have
more
competition,
it
would
be
wonderful
if
they
were
just
coming
out
of
law
school
and
coming
here,
but
we've
had
three
harvard
graduates,
african-american
graduates
since
2000
here
in
kankakee
or
wherever,
but
they
all
moved.
They
lived
here,
but
you
have
other
competitors
healers
in
new
york.
F
F
You
have
a
task
on
your
hand,
trying
to
get
law
students
down,
it's
not
an
impossible
task,
but
you
there's
more
competitors
out
there
because
there's
fewer
individuals
that
are
going
into
into
the
legal
firm,
not
saying
that
is
you
know
it's
an
alarming,
but
it's
it's
fewer
people
because
of
the
the
higher
practice
then
there's
some
they
get
the
law
degree
and
they
don't
they
just
get.
They
just
wants
a
law
degree.
I
mean
like
mike
o'brien.
Most
folks,
don't
know
he
is
a
graduate.
F
A
law
graduate
he's
a
usually
he's
a
law
school,
but
he
works
in
banking.
He
chooses
not
to
so.
Everyone
that
comes
out
of
law,
school,
look
at
other
opportunities
that
are
more
favorable
economically
and
to
them.
I
would
say.
K
L
My
report-
yes,
I
have,
I
have
nothing
more
to
add
other
than
I've
said
the
last
few
months,
each
and
every
month
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
increase
our
face-to-face
contacts
with
individuals
during
this
covet
era,
I
think
we're
doing
a
good
job
and
that
is
increasing
every
month.
So
unless.
L
L
So
that's
good
for
my
pre-trial
program,
but
it's
because
they're
released
and
placed
on
supervision
with
us,
but
bad
for
the
the
other
side
of
it.
That's
collection
of
fees
that
go
to
offender
services
and
for
years,
15,
16
and
17.
Our
average
collection
was
about
112
000
annually,
our
highest
during
the
time
period
was
15
in
2015
was
133
thousand
over
the
last
two
years.
It's
only
averaging
85
000,
and
we
only
only
collected
77
000
last
month
or
last
year
I
should
say
in
2019,
I'm
hoping
we
collect
70
000
this
year.
L
So
it's
a
you
know
what
48
50
reduction,
so
I
don't
know
for
at
the
bottom.
I
don't
know
how
long
it
takes
for
us
to
still
collect
on
old
cases
in
the
system.
I
think
we're
probably
getting
close,
but
I
just
it's
really
not
the
committee's
issue,
but
I
just
wanted
to.
It
does
stretch
us
our
department
in
other
areas,
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
I'll
keeper
what
the
committee
posted.
I
just
want
to
make
you
aware.
A
L
E
L
For
juveniles,
we
have
a
budget
for
it.
Obviously,
it's
an
alternative
to
detention,
less
costly,
alternative
to
detention.
Keeping
someone
in
in
juvenile
detention
center
could
be
up
to
thirty
1500
fifty
dollars
a
day
compared
to
six
to
eight
dollars
a
day
to
keep
them
in
the
community.
L
Our
adults
are
self-pay,
they
must
have,
they
must
pay,
for.
We
also
have
more
options.
We
have
alcohol
monitoring
devices
they
can
wear
along
with
your
standard
gps.
They
can
wear.
So
basically,
that's.
E
L
Correct
there's
a
couple
different
types:
we
have
some
you
wearing
a
brace,
it
looks
just
like
a
gps
device
and
it
just
monitors.
Basically,
while
you
wear
it,
we
get
a
report
every
every
day.
Other
ones
require
you
basically
like
a
portable
pbt.
It
takes
a
photo
of
you.
It
sends
you
a
text
when
you
have
to
perform
that
test
and
obviously
the
photo
confirms
that
you
taking
the
test
and
it
can
be
just
random
throughout
the
day.
L
The
juvenile
side
of
it
just
went
into
effect
this
year,
as
I
talked
to
chairman
wheeler,
we're
trying
to
reduce
the
cost
of
juvenile
detention,
so
that
part
went
in
this
year.
Adults
and
the
alcohol
monitoring
and
the
all
the
electronic
monitoring
around
adults
has
been
in
place
for
a
number
of
years.
E
H
You,
mr
wheeler,
and
just
to
mention
the
juvenile.
You
know
gps
monitoring
it
has
worked,
except
for
the
people
that
cut
them
off
correct
and
then
they
get
to
go
to
the
vacation
spot
in
the
joliet
area,
because
that's
the
only
alternative
to
going
to
river
valley
detention
is
that
ankle
bracelet
when
they
cut
it
off.
We
have
no
alternative
at
that
point.
F
Yeah,
if
they
well,
they
have
two
I'm
going
to
assume
that
there
were
our
investigation.
That
investigation
reports
was
at
our
investigation.
F
I'm
sorry:
what
are
we
looking
at
here
where
you
have
the
case
closed
up
under
that
the
next
nine
items
says
investigation
or
that
investigation.
J
F
A
F
Investigation
that's
investigating
now.
That
brings
me
to
my
next
question
with
the
youth.
I
know
they
say
they
can
cut
those
bracelets.
Our
is
those
braces
are
just
not
easy
to
cut.
They
have
to
actually
utilize
some
other
things
in
order
to
kind
of
cut
that
bracelet,
don't
they.
L
Correct,
yes,
so
they
have
to
they
tear
them
up
and
they're
cutting
them
off.
Now
we've
been
fortunate,
we've
recovered
and
local
police
departments
have
recovered,
I
believe
all,
but
one
device
that's
been
cut
off,
which
is
a
big
savings.
The
strap
is
not
that
costly
to
us.
It's
the
actual
gps
device
on
them.
F
F
L
Say
in
in
some
situations,
yes
and
others
know
that
you've
had
some
that
have
been
required
to
be,
you
know
to
pay
for
it,
but
others
not.
This
depends
on
the
circumstance
situation.
Oh
okay,
the
total
case
and
what's
going
on
with
them,
and
everything.
F
Okay
and
then,
with
the
number
of
youth
that
we
are
detaining,
you
don't
foresee
a
rise
in
that
I
do
know
that
we
are
we're
getting
used
for
most
of
my,
like
that,
17
18
year
old,
that
we're
catching
shooting
and
things
of
that
nature.
And
until
we
kind
of
get
that
under
control,
do
you
see
any
type
of
rise
or
just
a
steadiness
in
our
detention
process
for
youth.
L
Well,
I
think
our
current
number
that
we
have
in
detention
now,
which
is
about
six
at
river
valley,
five
or
six
river
valley-
has
been
very
consistent
over
the
last
several
years.
Obviously
this
year
during
cobid,
that
number
dropped
even
a
little
bit
more,
but
that
seemed
pretty
consistent,
there's
other
options.
For
example,
there
was
a
shooting
in
the
city
sunday
involving
a
16
year
old
he's
been
transferred
to
adult
court.
L
So
some
of
those
individuals
are
leave
the
juvenile
system
and
now
will
be
handled
they'll,
be
housed
housed
as
a
juvenile
during
the
process,
but
everything
else
is
an
adult
matter,
so
those
individuals
because
they
go
in
the
adult
system,
because
the
adult
system
process
takes
a
little
longer
can
add
to
our
detention
days.
Okay,.
L
Real
quick
for
several
years
we've
been
receiving
grant
funds
through
the
department
of
justice's
balance
against
women
grant
program
which
pays
100
percent
salary
benefits
of
two
officers
and
40
percent
of
supervisors,
salary
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
funding
will
continue
through
2021
much
needed
at
this
time
we
submitted
the
required
paperwork.
Last
week
it's
about
162
000
that
we
get
from
it.
So
that's
just
bringing
it
to
everybody's
attention.
L
N
Hopefully,
you
received
the
monthly
report.
Thank
you,
kelly,
for
that
reminder
must
have
been
a
long
weekend
or
something
I
forgot.
It
was
a
little
late,
it
was,
it
was
well,
monday
was
a
holiday,
so
it
did
go
out
yesterday
and
it
was
a
little
tardy,
but
we
got
it
so
a
couple
things
on
the
monthly
report.
N
Our
out
of
county
numbers
obviously
is
one
of
the
glaring
issues
that
are
going
on
right
now
through
august
of
2020.
We
are
at
averaging
277
in
2019.
During
the
same
time,
we
were
averaging
385,
so
that
is
significant.
That
amounts
to
about
9
700
a
day
that
we
are
not
bringing
in
and
again
that's
a
obviously
the
major
cause
which
I
hate
to
talk
about
is
covid.
N
We
stopped
taking
both
u.s
marshals
and
ice
since
march.
Did
you
repeat.
N
That
we
stopped
taking
yeah,
we
stopped
taking
our
out
of
county
inmates
and
detainees
from
the
u.s
marshals
and
ice
since
late
march,
just
because
at
that
time
we
didn't
nobody
knew
much
about
covid,
as
we
have
progressed
through
the
year
through
the
summer.
The
one
thing
I
think
that
is
important,
though,
to
back
up
a
minute
is,
unfortunately,
we
did
not
stop
taking
new
arrests
locally,
so
we
were
still
taking
new
arrests
every
day.
N
Fortunately,
as
as
I've
mentioned
before,
we
are
able
to
quarantine
new
arrests
so
that
they
are
not
mixed
with
general
population,
which
obviously
doesn't
get
the
new
arrests
mixed
in
with
our
general
population.
N
So
if
somebody
happens
to
be
positive,
which
at
this
point
we
haven't
found
any
to
be
at
least
they
wouldn't
be
mixed
in
with
the
general
population,
and
you
would
have
a
an
issue
where
you
have
an
entire
housing
unit
that
becomes
susceptible.
N
However,
as
as
I've
also
said
before,
if
covet
ends
up
in
our
building,
it's
more
than
likely
going
to
come
from
staff,
as
it
has
in
a
number
of
other
institutions,
including
the
illinois
department
of
corrections
in
other
institutions
such
as
even
nursing
homes
other
other
places.
N
So
our
staff,
I
mean
we
are
still
monitoring
their
health.
If
you
will
we're
taking
temperatures
every
day,
we're
encouraging
those
that
don't
feel
well
to
stay
home
to
get
a
test,
and
we
have
tested
a
number
of
our
employees,
some
of
which
have
been
positive
both
on
the
deputy
side
and
the
corrections
side.
N
However,
because
of
their
diligence,
it
has
not
gotten
in
our
building
yet
so
credit
to
them.
They're
doing
the
right
things
with
their
families
and
staying
home.
Who
knows
where
they
would
have
gotten
it?
We
we
don't
know
that,
but
we
are
going
through
a
process
with
our
employees
who
do
test
positive.
That
is
a
is
the
cdc
recommendations.
N
We
are
working
with
our
own
doctor
at
the
facility,
dr
long,
who
has
worked
with
us
very
well
to
give
us
the
guidance
to
keep
these
individuals
home
and
out
of
the
jail
so
credit
to
them.
N
The
one
thing,
even
though
our
other
counties
have
been
reduced
significantly,
the
one
thing
that
hasn't
been
reduced
significantly
is
our
local
population.
That
has
stayed
pretty
consistent,
we're
averaging
about
267
through
september
and
last
year.
At
the
same
time,
we
averaged
271,
so
those
numbers
haven't
changed
a
whole
lot,
which
again
shows
you
that.
N
The
corrections
staff
has
done
a
great
job
in
keeping
covet
out
of
our
building.
Those
numbers
haven't
changed
our
transports,
although
down
significantly
have
started
to
increase
a
little
bit
with
the
exception
of
medical.
Those
transports
have
stayed
consistent
because
we
do
at
times
have
to
transport
individuals
out
of
our
building
to
a
medical
appointment,
so
those
numbers
have
stayed
fairly
consistent.
N
Our
transports
are
climbing
a
little
bit
just
because
we
are
now
dealing
again
with
the
u.s
marshals,
most
of
ice's
court
appearances
are
by
video,
which
are
set
up
in
our
jail
between
jcdc
and
the
courtrooms
up
in
chicago
for
ice.
So
the
majority
of
those
are
all
on
video,
which
is
a
bit
has
been
a
big
help
and
again,
everybody's
cognizant
of
of
covet
and
trying
to
transport
and
mixed
people
is
just
something
that
we
are.
N
We
are
trying
to
avoid,
as
is
every
other
court
that
we're
that
we're
dealing
with
so
questions
on
the
corrections
side.
N
N
And
actually,
in
spite
of
covet,
our
warnings
and
citations
are
similar
to
2019.
At
this
point
I
mean
remember
that
you
know
our
our
traffic
details
and
and
doing
these
traffic
details
is
not
a
revenue
issue
for
us.
It's
a
safety
issue
for
us,
and
so
we
want
to
be
out
there
doing
traffic
control
as
much
as
we
can.
N
As
you
may
recall,
last
year
we
had
24
fatals
throughout
the
entire
year
of
2019.
This
year,
we've
had
seven
and
yeah
we'll
knock
on
wood.
For
that,
obviously
one
is
too
many,
but
obviously
our
goal
is
to
continue
to
reduce
that
number
and
keep
it.
The
goal
is
zero,
but
some
of
you
may
see
on
out
on
social
media.
N
A
lot
of
police
agencies,
including
ours,
are
showing
their
radar
detector
or
not
the
radar
detector,
but
the
radar
that
stopping
people
going
over
100
miles
an
hour
and
and
those
you
know,
and
I've
seen
recently
the
illinois
state
police.
I
know:
we've
posted
some
bourbon,
a
police
they're
all
posting.
These
speeds
that
they're
that
they're
clocking
these
individuals
at
over
100
miles
an
hour,
and
you
know
that's
why
we're
out
there
and
that's
why
these
guys
are
out
there
doing
traffic
control.
N
Other
than
housing,
one
of
the
glaring
another
glaring
number
is
the
and
it's
under
the
bottom,
under
revenue,
the
marshall
service,
overtime
and
salary
reimbursement.
Last
year
it
was
747
000.
So
far
this
year,
it's
about
277,
000.
N
and
obviously
because
we're
not
transporting
people,
we
don't
get
reimbursed
for
their
salary,
so
that
number
is
really
offset
by
us
not
having
to
use
overtime.
So
it's
technically
a
wash,
but
in
case
you
see
that
number
wonder
why
it's
so
low.
That's
the
reason
is
that
it's
it's.
We
are
not
spending
near
the
overtime
that
we
have
in
the
past,
but
we
are
not
getting
that
reimbursement
so
so
technically,
it
would
be
a
wash
considered
a
wash
questions
on
the
report
saving
mileage
on
your
vehicle,
yes
saving
mileage.
N
Report
next
on
the
agenda
is
the
animal
control.
I
I
can
tell
you
that
the
the
intergovernmental
agreement
is
completed
and
will
be
sent
to
bourbon
a
this
week.
You
know,
obviously,
there's
going
to
be
some
issues
about
how
we
ultimately
collect
payment
from
them
once
they
approve
it.
There
still
are
a
couple,
procedural
things
that
we
will
work
through,
probably
verbally
after
they
get
it,
and
a
lot
of
that
depends
on
whether
they
want
us
just
to
respond
to
just
dogs
or.
D
N
So
that's
a
that's
another
issue
that
we'll
deal
with
with
them,
but
it's
moving
forward.
Our
best
guess
is,
and
from
our
standpoint,
even
though
our
fiscal
years
are
different,
I
think
bourbon
a
runs
june
to
may
on
our
fiscal
year
runs
december
to
november.
It's
going
to
be
a
matter
of.
N
A
H
Questions
mr
wheeler,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
is:
are
you
at
liberty
to
talk
about
the
scope
at
this
time
like
hours?
You
know
with
the
you
know,
kind
of
just
a
real
brief.
Is
it
residents
can
call
whether.
N
It's
a
dog
or
a
cat
yeah.
What's
I
mean-
and
I
I
guess
right
now,
as
it
works
now
and
and
I'll
use
bourbon
a
because
that's
the
one
we're
working
on
at
this
point.
Different
jurisdictions
handle
animal
control,
calls
differently.
N
So
from
bourbon
a
standpoint
their
police
department
is,
is
right,
now
gets
a
phone
call
and
what
they
try
to
do
to
their
credit.
Is
they
try
to
find
the
owner
of
the
animal
which
which
makes
total
sense?
They
don't
involve
animal
control
if
they
can
find
that
owner
it
goes
back
to
them
they
and
they
just
move
on.
If
they
can't
find
the
owner,
then
that's
when
we
get
called
from
the
village.
N
Go
ahead
so
so
that's
when
our
department
responds
and
then
that's
when
we
send
bourbon
a
bill.
N
We
get
the
call
from
police
and
the
city,
we
get
the
call
from
code
it
just
it
varies
from
jurisdiction,
and
that's
the
other
thing
that
we
want
to
kind
of
streamline
to
make
it
consistent
for
everybody
so
that
we
can
say
if
your
jurisdiction
has
an
issue,
call
this
number
and
we'll
deal
with
it
immediately.
Okay,
I
still
foresee
that
local
jurisdictions
will
still
try
to
find
out
the
home
a
lot
of
times.
N
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
sheriff.
How
close
is
the
intergovernmental
agreements
for
the
municipalities,
your
proposal
for
them
to
get
them
on
a
scheduled
payment
for
animal
control.
N
Well,
we
just
got
the
agreement
with
bourbon
a
we've
been
dealing
exclusively
with
bourbon
at
this
point
because
they
have
they
have
reached
out
to
us
wanting
to
get
this
done
and
and
for
a
number
of
reasons,
and
I
hate
to
continue
to
use
covid.
But
you
know
that
seems
to
be
the
popular
excuse
these
days
it
was
kind
of
delayed,
so
we
are
getting
that
to
them
this
week.
It's
actually
done
on
our
end
and
we'll
talk
through
a
couple
issues.
So
that's
that's
a
start.
I
I
know
the
municipalities
in
in
my
district
are
looking
forward
to
having
the
opportunity
to
you
know:
budget-wise
set
their
animal
control
fees.
You
know
because
how
you
proposed
it
of
you
know
before
covet.
I
guess
we
could.
We
could
all
say
pre-code.
I
You
were
gonna,
set
up
a
schedule
that
they
paid
x
amount
of
dollars
per
month
or
per
quarter,
and
and
then
that
covered
their
you
know
whatever
they
used
that
year
or-
and
I
I
think
for
municipalities-
it's
it's
a
benefit
because
they
could
set
their
budget.
That
way
they
in
case
in
a
in
a
hypothetical
case.
I
They
had
to
use
you
know
currently
in
case
they
had
to
use
animal
control,
they
might
get
a
big
bill
one
month,
you
know,
and
that
might
not
be
in
their
budget
to
pay
that
bill
that
month.
So
having
that
foresight
to
be
able
to
put
it
in
their
budget
and
know,
they're
gonna
spend
and
know
they
have,
the
service
would
be
a
benefit
to
the
to
the
smaller
municipalities.
N
Well
and
you're
right,
it
wouldn't,
but
it's
still
a
benefit
to
all
of
them,
because
they,
you
know,
everybody
sets
a
budget,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we've
done
and
a
credit
to
the
records
in
animal
control.
They
actually
had
a
spreadsheet
of
every
dollar
that
they've
built
every
municipality
going
back
20
years.
N
So
what
we
have
done
is
we've
basically
taken
out
an
average
of
those
20
years
and
have
kind
of
increased
that
number
by
about
25,
because
we
feel
like
once
we
are
contracted
with
an
agency.
Our
call
our
call
volume
is
going
to
increase,
of
course,
and
that's
why
I
said
after
the
end
of
the
first
year,
we
will
reevaluate
it
to
see
that
whether
that
number
needs
to
go
down
or
whether
that
number
needs
to
go
up
so.
I
Right
and
I
like
that
plan,
I
just
encourage
you
encouraging
you
to
let's
move
forward
on
that,
maybe
for
the
next
fiscal
year.
N
Yeah,
I
just
have
two
more
things
and
for
those
of
you
that
maybe
saw
it
or
heard
about
it
locally.
N
We'd
put
together
a
list
of
warrants,
we
would
put
together
a
list
of
information
on
these
individuals
who
were
wanted
and
we
would
go
out
in
teams
and
try
to
find
these
individuals
and
on
october
8th,
we
conducted
our
first
one
in
a
long
time,
and
I
can
tell
you
from
my
standpoint:
it
was
long
overdue,
but
I
will
also
tell
you
that
we
are
planning
another
one
very
soon,
so
we
are
not
stopping
with
one.
We
are.
N
We
are
going
to
continue
to
do
these,
maybe
not
so
much
on
a
level
that
was
as
big
as
this
one
was,
but
maybe
I
mean
other
agencies.
Local
police
want
to
get
these
people
back
off
the
street,
and
I
can
tell
you
we
had
on
during
that
detail.
We
had
20
arrests
that
day
we
had
one
who
we
arrested,
who
was
allegedly
involved
in
a
shooting
in
the
city
of
kangaki.
N
N
N
N
That's
why
we
have
a
lot
of
warrants
because
there's
people
out
there
who
aren't
appearing
in
court
now?
What
does
that
do
to
our
system
when
they
don't
appear
in
court?
It
affects
the
court
docket.
It
affects.
The
state's
attorney's
office
normally
affects
the
public
defender's
office,
the
circuit
clerk's
office,
the
sheriff's
office
and
the
jail,
and
that
doesn't
even
include.
N
N
F
N
Most
of
you
see
warren
wednesday,
it's
it's
fairly
popular
out
there
and
it's.
You
know.
Sometimes
it's
funny.
Sometimes
people
get
mad
because
we
put
masks
on
them
and
that's
that's.
Okay,
whatever
the
bottom
line
is
show
up
in
court,
if
you
show
up
in
court,
it's
a
non-issue.
N
N
E
Hunter,
you
know
I'd
like
to
take
my
hat
off
to
you
again
sheriff
and
I'm
probably
dating
myself
when,
when
I
was
on
the
city
council
and
over
public
safety
for
the
city
bill
doster
was
the
police
chief,
and
I
can't
remember
who
the
sheriff
was
back
in
93
midnight.
J
E
Okay,
my
baseball
buddy
known
bernie.
Ever
since
you
were
kids,
I
remember
when
we
did
the
rat
packs,
I
mean
really
comprehensive
stuff.
E
We
had
the
county,
sheriff's
department,
kinky
city,
state
police,
not
only
a
state
police
personnel.
We
even
had
the
helicopter
and
we
had
atf
dea
hell
of
a
program
very
positive,
because
we
had
a
lot
of
killings,
murders
back
in
in
the
day
when
doster
took
over
the
reigns
of
king
key
city
police
department,
black
on
black
crime
was
going
through
the
roof
it
was.
It
was
ridiculous.
E
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
you
expand
it
sheriff
and
especially
in
terms
of
the
lower
or
upper
view
area
and
to
include
kinky
city
code
enforcement,
fire
department
and
also
maybe
even
the
housing
authority
too,
because
maybe
some
of
these
bad
guys
are
staying
in
some
of
the
section
8
certified
domiciles
and
that
may
may
help
as
well
too,
but
the
stuff
you're
doing
works
and
now
with
the
city
with
their
47
thousand
dollar
grant.
Regarding
you
know,
shots
fired
thing.
Hopefully
you
know
that'll
help.
E
You
know
it
doesn't
take
rocket
science
science
to
ascertain
where
the
bad
guys
are
shooting
in
around
our
schools
and
some
of
the
formerly
safe
neighborhoods
in
the
in
the
second
ward.
I
I'd
just
like
to
see
more
of
those
things
done,
rather
than
once
in
a
blue
moon.
I
know
you
indicated
there's
going
to
be
some
more,
but
the
stuff
you're
doing
works,
and
I
have
not
heard
any
adverse
comments
from
the
community
about
what
you're
doing
additionally,
the
stuff
you're
doing
with
law
enforcement
within
wcp
and
other
organizational
units.
E
It's
amazing
when
you,
when
you
think
in
terms
of
you
guys
making
presentations
along
with
the
state's
attorney
the
coroner
k-meg,
can't
remember,
who
else
who
made
presentations
on
opioids
and
so
forth
at
public
forums,
I
mean
you
guys
are
being
immersed
into
the
community
and
the
community
can
ask
you
questions
about
what
you're
doing
I
mean
I.
I
learned
something
myself
at
one
of
the
naacp
meetings
in
which
there's
a
panel
jim
rohl
and
all
those
folks
in
bob
guster.
E
Provided
me
with
information
in
terms
of
the
age
range
of
folks-
and
I
didn't
know
anything
about
in
detail
about
fentanyl-
that's
some
bad
stuff.
E
You
know
there
were
rumors
about
law
enforcement,
but
actually
it
was.
It
was
drug
overdose.
You
know
that's
you
know,
and
I
posed
a
question
to
you
about
how
the
hell
do
you
get
drugs
like
that
into
a
jail,
and
you
explain
what
you
guys
do
the
safeguards
you
take,
but
I've
never
seen
law
enforcement
immersed
like
where
we're
sitting
now
with
you
guys,
as
well
as
with
bill
doster
when
when
he
was
police
chief
kancu
city,
but
thank
you.
N
Well,
thank
you,
mr
hunter,
and
I
I
guess
I
would.
The
one
thing
that
I
actually
forgot
is
to
mention
is
the
relationship
that
we
have
locally
with
our
law
enforcement.
N
It
is
top
notch
from
every
department
if
a
department
calls
other
departments
are
willing
to
help,
and
I
think
I
think
that's
what's
important
is
that
we
are
all
working
together.
We
are
all
on
the
same
page,
and
you
know
it's
a
credit
to
those
departments
that
you
know
all
throughout
the
county.
There
is
not
one
that
we
can
sit
here
and
say:
well,
they
don't
participate
they're,
not
involved,
they
don't
communicate.
I
mean
it
is
strictly
a
county-wide
conglomerate
of
police
departments
that
all
work
together
so
credit
to
everybody.
N
Also
one
thing
that
the
other
thing
I
didn't
mention
is
that
you
know
we
just
don't
punch
names
on
our
computer
and
figure
out
who's
wanted
and
then
go
after
them.
This
is
a
these
things.
N
So
this
isn't
a
we
don't
come
in
on
the
morning
of
october,
8th
and
say:
okay,
here's
our
list
of
60
people
go,
go
at
it.
This
is
something
that
takes
some
time
and
every
time
we
do
it.
We
continue
to
gather
information
on
on
these
individuals
to
attempt
to
find
them
so
a
credit
to
everybody
involved
and
again,
we
will
continue
to
to
move
forward
with
these,
whether
they're
the
same
scale
operation
or,
if
they're
a
little
bit
reduced,
but
they
will
continue.
N
So
that's
it
and
I
got
one
last
thing
and-
and
this
must
be
bob
gessner
kudo
day-
I
don't
know
if
you
have
seen
his
facebook
page.
It's
the
kankakee
county
coroner's
office,
facebook
page
and-
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
great
it
is
to
actually
see
accurate
numbers
regarding
covid,
our
our
state,
the
national
media,
washington
dc,
could
probably
learn
a
lot
about
accurate
reporting
from
the
coroner's
facebook
post.
So
bob
thank
you.
I
know
you're
out
there
watching
it's.
N
The
information
is
so
valuable
and
you
know
people
just
want
accurate
information.
Bob's
information
was
so
accurate
that
facebook
shut
him
down.
That's
how
accurate
it
was,
god
forbid
somebody
posts,
the
truth
and
facebook
pulls
his
page
down
so
but
a
credit
to
bob
and
his
staff
for
for
the
information
that
that
he
posts
out
there
to
keep
our
local
citizens,
in
addition
to
the
the
overdose
issue,
but
covid,
which
is
another
issue
that
that
bob
is
very
involved
with,
and
the
information
is
unbelievable,
so
bob
thank
you
and
that's
all.
N
F
Yes,
I
got
a
chance
here.
A
few
comments,
a
lot
of
times
I
share
with
individuals
in
the
community.
I
I
know
bob's
coming
up
in
a
minute,
but
even
with
the
sheriff
with
my
prior
history,
we're
working
with
law
enforcement.
There
are
some
there's
a
lot
of
misconceptions
out
there
and
I
I
am
one
that
believes,
even
though
they
are
bad
cops.
Bad
cops
are
bad
for
good
cops,
because
the
number
of
good
cops
are
way
far
our
way.
F
The
number
of
what
we
consider
to
be
bad
cops,
probably,
I
would
say,
less
than
point
half
a
percent
fits
into
what
I
call
a
bad
cop
category.
I
don't
I
I
I
would
be
remiss
to
to
suggest
that
there
would
be
that
officers
would
just
get
into
a
uniform
and
the
day,
I'm
getting
out
there
to
basically
tick
off
the
world
by
doing
something
bad
they
they
don't.
F
They
are
a
gentleman
from
normal
categories:
people
out
of
communities,
husbands,
wives,
that
are
there
to
yeah
that
that
comes
to
you
know
they
want
their
lives
to
be
preserved,
just
like
they
want
to
preserve
the
life
of
others,
and
so
sometimes
the
word
reasonable
can
mean
you
don't
know
some
things.
You
have
to
go
off
the
instinct,
but
most
of
the
times
most
cops
tend
to
do
the
right
things.
F
I
do
know,
and
I
and
I,
and
I
peruse
the
the
county,
the
neighborhoods
here
or
whatever,
and
most
of
them
are
doing
the
right
thing
or
whatever.
So
I
always
want
to.
Let
folks
know
that,
sometimes,
when
you
see
them,
those
that
are
doing
the
right
thing
just
give
them
a
word
of
encouragement.
F
They
they're
out
there
and
and
and
sometimes
because
of
this
bad
cop
scenario,
it
puts
them
in
a
very
bad
situation,
because
sometimes
I
heard
one
where
someone
pulled
them,
but
yet
the
other
one
did
not
because
they
didn't
want
to
proceed
to
bed.
So
there's
a
lot
of
stress
right
now
in
those
areas
and
and
again
remind
yourself
that
dale's
number
of
bad
cops,
they're,
they're
bad
for
good
cops.
The
good
cops!
Don't
want
really
them
they.
They
they
want
him
off
the
force
so
that
they
can
preserve
the
integrity.
F
So
that's
just
my
spill
as
to
some
of
the
things
that
are
going
out
there,
that
that
portrays
like
every
time
you
look
at
the
good
blue,
every
good
blue
is
being
challenged
by
some
bad
blue.
Those
numbers
are
are
a
miniscule
at
most.
F
I
heard
commissioner
hunter
say
that
the
housing
authority,
but
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
the
housing
authority
has
taken
drastic
steps
to
ensure
that
things
are
not
coming
out
buildings
that
are
akin
to
them
or
next
to
them.
They
have
no
control
over.
But
you
go
on
just
here
in
kankakee.
F
You
notice
that
that
the
like
in
wildwood
that
place
is
lit
up
and
have
cameras
there,
so
that
way,
we're
monitoring
or
whatever,
so
that
we
can
assist
and
help
and
have
footage
and
data
when
things
go
amidst
so
most
times
when
people
know
they're.
For
the
surveillance
they
go
to
some
other
place,
so
the
little
things
that
can
be
done,
and
hopefully
you
can't
keep
taking
that
same
approach
and
getting
the
cameras
and
stuff
out
there.
F
So
we
don't
know,
I
think
the
county
has
jet
stone
yesterday
is
participating
by
having
you
know,
one
of
those
bullet
radars
or
whatever
it
is
so
they
will
know
where
bullets
are
coming
from.
So
I
think
everyone
is
trying
to
come
together
and
I
think
the
public
needs
to
know
that
you
know
we're
in
this
together
and
they
do
their
part
we'll
do
our
part
and
and
and
and
and
this
this
issue
of,
let's
get
rid
of
the
police
department.
F
Who
are
you
going
to
call
when
there's
domestic
violence?
Who
are
you
going
to
call,
so
I
I'm
not
into
a
reduction
a
reformation,
yes
reduction
or
getting
rid
of
police
departments?
No,
so
that's
just
my
tell
on
this
thing
or
whatever,
and
then
you
say
how
do
things
get
in
prison
or
get
in
jail?
F
Who
oh,
how
do
things
get
in
jail
same
way?
They
get
in
prisons
or
whether
they'll
find
a
way,
but
thank
god
that
you
have
in
corrections
or
whatever
individuals
that
are
there
to
to
to
utilize
those
safeguards
and
and
and
and
again
help
protect,
protect,
serve
the
integrity
of
the
of
the
law
enforcement
and
the
integrity
of
even
government.
Sometimes
you
just
get
a
bad
rap
when
it's
really
not
necessary,
because
if
we're
not
here,
then
who
would
you
have
that's
just
my
take
on
it.
J
I
just
wanted
to
thought
this
was
a
good
place
to
interject
saturday.
The
17th
is
the
23rd
anniversary
of
the
death
of
tony
sanfi,
and
I
just
did
not
want
him
to
be
forgotten.
M
Good
morning,
good
morning,
let's
go
through
my
summary
here.
M
Basically,
we're
had
101
calls
in
september
eight
autopsies,
as
you
can
see
the
rest
of
it
down
there,
the
toxicologies
and
also
the
different
things
that
we
do
at
the
more
x-rays
and
stuff
like
that.
M
I'll,
take
any
questions
on
those
on
the
natural
homicide,
suicide,
accidental,
I'm
determined
anybody
has
any
questions
on
that.
Any.
M
M
Tell
you
right
now
that
we're
our
overdose
categories
right
now,
we're
we're
holding
at
40
with
three
pending
right
now.
Actually
we're
doing
an
autopsy
this
morning
on
od,
our
average
age
is
still
at
40..
The
youngest
is
at
17
31,
males
to
nine
females
in
the
race.
The
caucasians
are
30,
african-americans
or
nine,
and
one
asian,
and
basically,
as
it
was
mentioned
there
fentanyl
is
a
leading
drug.
M
That's
hit
our
county,
really
bad,
that's
80
to
100
times
more
powerful
than
morphine
itself.
I
keep
repeating
myself
on
that,
but
it's
it's!
It's
just
a
powerful
drug
and
there's
several
different
morphines
that
we're
seeing
now
in
our
county
other
than
fentanyl
is
what
I
call
the
fentanyl
brothers
there's
a
lot
of
different
fentanyls
out
there.
M
So
our
hopefully
with
a
month
and
a
half
to
go
here,
we
can
not
hit
that
last
of
2017,
but
we're
now
extremely
high
at.
I
call
it
right
now
at
43,
so
I.
M
Too,
that
and
state's
attorney
rob
talked
about
the
first
induced
homicide.
M
I'll
just
say
briefly,
thank
you
to
his
crew
for
what
they
did
and
it's
it's
something
that
I
hope
the
community
and
then
the
county
board
recognizes
there.
That's
a
that's
a
powerful
hit.
There.
We've
been
working
on
that
and
the
great
job
that
he's
done
on
that.
I
appreciate
that,
thanks
for
the
comments
to
the
sheriff.
M
It
gave
me
in
all
those
situations
in
my
office
has
been
paperless
for
four
years,
so
we've
worked
on
that
over
four
years
ago
and
for
those
people
that
don't
know
it,
our
our
website
is.
M
F
Before
you
leave
just
a
minute,
I
want
to
sit
back
and
I
guess
send
kudos
out
there
to
the
to
the
corner
a
lot
of
times.
I
know
you
have
to
work
with
the
with
the
funeral
homes
and
all
that,
but
I
know
we
had
a
case
not
so
long
here
that
we
didn't
know
if
the
individuals
the
county
was
gonna,
have
to
bear
or
not
you
reached
out
to
me
as
a
chaplain,
we
was
able
to
get
all
that
taken
care
of.
F
So
it's
kudos
that
you
just
you'll
reach
out
to
more
just
the
corners,
but
the
chaplains
and
everything
else
so
basically
saves
the
county
money,
but
also
to
work
with
the
with
the
public
to
dispel
any
type
of
myths
that
they
have.
Sometimes,
when
a
death
happen,
they
go
array
into
things
or
whatever,
and
then
you
set
them
at
ease
so
just
to
thank
you
out
there
for
that,
because
I
know
your
job
is
taking
you
from
here
to
there,
but
your
ability
to
work
across
and
multitask
is
commendable.
M
No,
I
think,
that's
everything
I
got
mother
we're
doing.
Okay
with
the
budget
guys,
I've
talked
to
mccarty
already
and
we're
we're
holding
our
own.
A
F
B
B
She's,
muted
I'll
come
back.
Mr
fairfield
hi
mr
carrico
hi,
mr
smith,.
E
F
F
I
think
this
is
the
100th
anniversary
of
the
women's
right
to
vote
or
whatever
just
want
to
send
kudos
out
there,
whoever
make
it
known
that
we
do
acknowledge
it
even
in
the
in
the
criminal
justice
area,
where
kids
would
be,
because
they
are
very
integral
part
of
of
what
we
do
and
what
and
the
laws
that
we
have
that
protects
them
or
whatever
and
the
fight
that
got
them
here
or
whatever.
But
this
is
the
100th
anniversary
and
I
think
it's
just
appropriate
to
just
make
mention
of
it.
Thank
you.