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Criminal Justice Committee Meeting 8/09/2023 7:30 AM
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But
the
hearings
will
be
longer
because
there'll
be
more
issues
involved.
There'll,
be
discovery
that
will
be
tender
to
the
defense
attorney
and
there's
also
the
possibility
of
calling
Witnesses
for
these
hearings.
So
we
anticipate
those
hearings
proceeding
on
them.
The
more
serious
cases
where
the
state's
attorney
has
made
a
decision
that
they're
going
to
file
a
petition
to
detain
that
person.
So
you
know
the
more
serious
crimes,
the
murders,
rapes,
domestic
batteries,
things
that
cases
like
that.
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The
state's
attorney
will
make
a
decision,
they'll
file,
the
petition
for
detention
and
then
that
person
will
be
brought
in
at
our.
What
used
to
be
called
our
bond
court
will
now
be
called
the
detention
hearing,
Court,
probably
at
1
30
in
the
afternoon,
on
each
day
of
the
week,
and
then
the
judge
will
make
a
decision
whether
or
not
that
particular
case
with
those
particular
facts
would
in
the
judge's
discretion
would
be
sufficient
to
detain
that
person
for
up
to
90
days.
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The
I've
signed
an
administrative
order
yesterday
that
appoints
a
public
defender
in
every
one
of
those
cases.
Unless
that
person
has
their
own
private
attorney
show
up
for
that
detention.
Hearing
those
decisions
are
appealable
both
by
the
defense.
If
the
judge
makes
the
decision
to
detain
that
person,
then
that
is
appealable
by
the
defense
and
it's
also
appealable
by
the
state.
If
the
judge
decides
no
we're
going
to,
let
them
let
them
out
pending
trial,
and
there
are
some
other
tools
in
the
toolbox
that
we
have.
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We
can
put
them
on
GPS
monitoring,
there's
a
cost
associated
with
that,
but
that's
also,
you
know
a
possibility
so
again
we're.
We
anticipate
that
there
will
be
a
lot
less
people
on
the
custody
sheet.
It
will
be
the
the
minor
offenses.
Now,
the
retail
thefts
and
first
time
you
know
the
DUIs,
the
driving
suspended
driving
revoked
some
of
the
lower
class
crimes
are
not
detainable
all
the
misdemeanors,
except
for
domestic
batteries,
but
will
not
be
detainable
so
we're
that
is
effective,
September
18th.
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D
You
know,
I
I
was
glad
to
hear
you
talk
about
the
petition
for
detention.
Etc,
there's
going
to
be
some
fiscal
impact
as
well
too,
and
I
was
asking
Sandy,
because
you
know
she
wouldn't
really
know
the
you
know
the
10
percent
bail
requirement.
Pardon
me
just
kind
of
tossed
out
the
window
for
some
of
these
minor
crimes.
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So
that
that
has
a
fiscal
implication
in
terms
of
the
county
and
I
I
know
maybe
Sandy
said
maybe
McCarty
would
know
generally,
if
there's
an
average
or
something
what
we
would
lose
in
terms
of
you
know,
funds
and
I
think
we
again
I'm
repeating
myself.
We
as
legislators
need
to
know
what
this
thing
is
all
about.
I
understand
the
cops
need
to
know.
Law
enforcement
needs
to
know
that
I
think
we
need
to
know
too
and
and
I'm
going
to
pose
the
same
question
to
you
and
and
to
State's
Attorney
Roe.
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If
there
could
be
because
I
think
Larry
rozinga
asked
if
that
particular
orientation
that
was
being
conducted
by
whomever
if
it's
open
to
other
individuals
as
well
too,
because
I'd
like
to
sit
in
on
some
of
that
stuff,
not
at
six
o'clock
in
the
morning.
They
gave
some
times
and
stuff,
but
is
there
a
possibility
that
we
as
legislators,
you
guys,
could
hold
some
kind
of
special
session
for
us.
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I'm
going
to
defer
to
the
State's
Attorney's
office
for
that
I
see
Mr
coughlin's
here
I,
don't
see
Mr
Rowe,
but
the
they
are
in
the
process
of
of
educating
the
various
departments
on
what
the
procedures
are
going
to
be
drafting
forms.
We
got
all
new
forms,
but
I
I
would
defer
to
the
State's
Attorney's
office
for
that
kind
of
education.
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Or
yeah
because
I
think
they
got
three
dates
this
month.
I
think
for
that
so
I,
you
know
I
hope,
hopefully
Jim
and
and
Coughlin
and
whomever
is
doing
that.
Maybe
they
could
do
a
special
thing,
because
I
think
that
training
I
think
they
reference
can't
keep
Bradley
Bourbonnais
I'm,
not
sure
if
they
said
Roma
Park,
but
but
it's
a
macro
kind
of
thing
and
it'd
be
kind
of
nice
to
let
elected
officials,
legislators,
trustees,
aldermen
could
have
the
same
opportunity
to
hear
the
same
presentation:
okay,.
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D
You
guys
have
I
heard
last
for
the
training
of
the
law
enforcement
officials
and
I
was
saying
to
the
chief
judge
that
we
as
legislators,
you
know
either
be
a
trustee,
Alderman,
stuff,
I,
think
economy
board
members.
We
need
to
know
what
the
ramifications
are.
The
Chief
Judges
touched
on
some
of
those
things
and
I
know.
I've
talked
to
you
about
it,
because,
if
you're
going
to
have
to
have
more
staff
because
of
the
hearing
requirements
and
all
those
other
stuff,
so
we
just
need
to
know
what
it's
all
about.
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They'll
be
held
over
to
Monday
to
the
first
appearance
date
and
that's
when
their
actual
detention
hearing
will
be
held
where
they're
brought
in
front
of
the
judge,
and
so
a
lot
of
counties
are
doing
it.
That
way.
A
lot
of
counties,
especially
the
ones
that
have
a
lot
of
money,
are
they're,
going
full
board
with
court
on
the
weekends.
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C
Well,
they
can
be
held
under
the
new
statute
up
to
90
days
before,
and
then
they
have
to
be
tried
within
that
90
days
unless
there's
a
big
unless
there
and
that's
unless
the
delay
is
attributable
to
the
defendant.
So
if
the
defense
attorney
says,
I
need
another
30
60
days
to
do
some
research
or
talk
to
Witnesses,
whatever
the
the
case
is,
and
that
continuance
is
allowed
and
that's
that's
on
them,
so
it
could
go
past
the
90
days.
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C
Well,
the
trials
do
get
delayed
and
people
sit
in
custody,
but
it's
usually
in
those
cases
the
law
as
it
stands
today
is
that
they
have
to
be
tried
within
120
days,
and
so
what
happens
is
that
those
delays
are
usually
attributable
to
the
defendant
because
they're
not
ready
to
go
to
trial.
Yet,
okay,.
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I
I
just
again
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you
and
to
State's
Attorney
Roe
for
all
the
work
that
you
all
put
into
this
to
try
to
do
what's
best
and
do
what's
right
for
the
citizens
in
the
state
of
Illinois
and
I'm.
Guessing
that
many
of
us
never
thought
we'd
be
here.
You
know
never
thought
we'd
see
this
in
our
lifetime,
and
here
we
are
so
thanks
for
your
hard
work
on
that
judge
and
State's
Attorney
Ro
you
also
back
there.
You
know
I.
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E
So,
on
my
end
of
period
listing
actual
report,
so
there's
three
pages,
four
paid
three
pages
of
that
report,
a
little
bit
about
five
or
seven
down
it
says
office
retainer
and
then
the
number
110
500
30341.
That's
the
10
bond
that
we're
talking
about.
So,
if
you
carry
it
over
this
last
month,
it
was
twelve
thousand
one
hundred
eighty
dollars
and
seventy
cents
is
what
we
collected.
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J
So
you
can
see
through
the
last
grand
jury
well
really
through
the
end
of
July.
Looking
at
495
indictments,
that's
compared
to
the
same
time.
Last
year
same
number
of
grand
juries.
Last
year
we
were
at
4
36..
So
what's
up
59
cases,
that's
almost
a
full
grand
jury.
So
that's
you
know
somewhat
significant.
When
you
look
at
what
type
of
offenses
have
increased
the
most
last
year
compared
to
this
year,
you
know
crimes
against
a
person,
so
violent
crimes
are
pretty
static,
not
much
of
an
increase
there.
J
Weapon
offenses
are
down
by
about
14.
We
had
61
at
this
time
last
year
with
47
this
year,
where
the
real
the
two
jumps
are
in
property
crimes,
talking
criminal
damage
to
property
that
jumped
from
65
last
year
to
109
this
year.
That's
a
pretty
significant
increase
and
then
narcotics
offenses
from
90
to
121..
J
Correct
so
it
you
know,
it's
so
hard
to
just
give
a
yes
or
no
answer
to
those
questions,
because
there
are
some
factors
that
may
apply,
but
on
the
whole
criminal
damage
to
property
is
not
detainable
and
what's
scary
about
that
is
oftentimes.
Those
offenses
don't
happen
with
some
random
person
coming
down
your
street
and
you
know
knocking
out
your
mailbox.
Those
are
targeted
crimes
with
the
domestic
component
to
them.
So
maybe
an
ex-boyfriend
estranged
comes
to
the
home,
and
you
know
his
ex-wife
or
ex-girlfriend
is
not
there.
J
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J
Are
opening
up
a
space
in
Pembroke
Township
on
August
17th
I'd
like
to
invite
everyone
to
be
there
we'll
have
a
ribbon
cutting
it's
August
17th
at
5,
30
p.m.
Our
space
is
behind
Lorenzo
Smith
school.
So,
if
you
pull
into
their
parking
lot
on
their
main
road,
you
just
walk
back
behind
the
school.
Gates
will
be
open.
That
space
is
going
to
accommodate
an
extension
of
our
victim,
witness
Services,
sometimes
whether
the
barrier
is
transportation
or
otherwise.
J
It's
difficult
for
people
to
get
to
the
courthouse
to
either
discuss
their
case
with
them
to
provide
them
with
victim
and
witness
Services
help
them
through
the
victim
compensation
process.
So
we
want
to
bring
those
Services
into
a
community
that
is
in
need
of
them,
as
well
as
open
the
doors
for
other
social
service
providers
to
use
the
space
to
provide
their
services.
An
example
of
that
is,
you
know,
let's
say
a
grief
counseling,
for
instance,
uplifted
care
is
a
phenomenal
agency.
J
J
Hours
of
operation
when
they
can
get
a
ride
there,
so
by
bringing
that
service
into
a
local
community
where
it
is
still
provided
free
of
charge,
you're
giving
access
to
grief
counseling,
which
is
significant,
so
someone
can
get
over
that
trauma
or
that
loss
or
whatever
comes
with
the
loss
by
bringing
those
Services
into
the
community
and
providing
them
for
free
and
it's
beyond
grief,
counseling
we're
going
to
have
people
there
with
nami.
That's
the
national
associate
Alliance
for
the
mentally
ill.
J
We
will
have
Harbor,
House
and
clove,
providing
domestic
violence
and
sexual
assault
Counseling
in
the
community,
American
Foundation,
For,
Suicide
Prevention
will
be
there
we're
going
to
be
working
closely
with
the
coroner's
office
on
education
and
about
prevention,
Narcan
training,
whatever
Services
coroner
Gessner,
is
looking
to
provide
so
we're
trying
I
think
we've
got
12
or
13
organizations
already
partnered
up,
so
they
so
one
organization
might
be
there.
You
know
a
Tuesday
from
one
to
four
and
serve
its
clients,
provide
counseling
sessions.
J
Whatever
that
looks
like
so
I
hope,
you'll
come
out
and
see
the
space
we're
in
the
process
still
of
of
getting
it.
You
know,
set
up
there'll,
be
computers.
There
workstations
copy
machines,
printers
people
can
take
online
classes
from
that
space,
they'll
be
able
to
apply
for
jobs.
There
I
think
the
Gente
Staffing
is
going
to
be
at
the
space
assisting
with
employment,
so
we're
we're
just
trying
to
make
sure
all
the
resources
that
are
available
to
so
many
people
in
our
community
are
available
to
everyone
in
the
county.
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G
J
It
depends
domestic
battery,
even
at
a
misdemeanor
level,
is
a
detainable
offense
under
the
safety
act.
And
if
the
elements
are
there
we'll
seek
to
to
detention.
If
the
courts
detain
the
person
right,
they
are
they're
in
custody
for
90
days
and,
as
the
judge
said,
unless
the
delay
is
attributable
to
the
defendant,
you
know
they're
out
after
the
90th
day.
Is
that
going
to
increase
the
violations
of
the
order
of
protection?
I
guess
well,
unfortunately,
we'll
have
to
see.
J
It
depends
so
if
you
commit
a
non-detainable
offense,
let's
say
on
Tuesday,
you
commit
a
criminal
trespassing
at
a
property,
that's
not
a
detainable
offense
and
then
two
days
later,
you
commit
a
criminal
trespass
at
a
different
property.
It's
not
a
detainable
offense.
If
you
commit
a
retail
theft
on
Monday
and
Tuesday
and
Wednesday
and
Thursday
and
Friday
and
they're
all
under
three
hundred
dollars,
so
they're,
not
even
felony
offenses.
Those
are
not
detainable
offenses.
What?
J
J
J
That's
not
going
to
be
possible
now,
so
we're
certainly
going
to
see
an
increase,
I
think
in
property
crime
in
Theft
cases-
and
you
have
to
remember
these
numbers.
I'm
talking
about
property
crimes,
criminal
damage
to
property.
Probably
theft
is
in
there.
Those
are
felony
level
offenses,
that's
why
they
go
to
the
grand
jury.
Those
are
not
all
of
the
property
damage
crimes
in
the
county.
Majority
of
those
are
misdemeanors,
so
these
are
all
felonies.
That's
109,
felonies
for
criminal
damage
to
properties,
pretty
significant.
D
D
Do
for
kids
and
and
Families,
you
know,
I
I,
don't
know
how
you
do
it.
I
know
that
you
go
after
a
lot
of
soft
money,
but
your
office
services
are
not
just
confined
to
Prosecuting
the
bad
folks
and
I
I.
Just
take
my
hat
off
to
you
again.
The
information
that
you're
providing
here
on
the
safety
act
gives
Credence
to
what
I
was
posing
to
chief
judge
and
to
you
in
terms
of
giving
some
kind
of
providing
some
kind
of
orientation
to
us.
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D
What
the
implications
are
of
of
the
safety
act
and
I'd
appreciate
if
you
could
work
something
out
with
with
chairman
wheeler
for
us
or
all
the
trustees
and
aldermen
throughout
the
county.
I,
don't
know
that's
the
big
ticket,
but
I
think
we
need
to
know
and
if,
if
they're
interested
in
knowing
what
ramifications,
they'll
tend
the
venue
that
you
you're
going
to
set
up
for
us.
J
D
J
And
then
they
Implement
them,
but
you
know
Joshua
Chris
Amber
miles
on
he's.
He
just
graduated
Navy
and
got
married
the
other
day.
So
we
do
miss
him,
but
you
know
those
individuals
in
the
community
division
victim,
witness,
Advocates,
all
the
prosecutors,
John
and
Terry
and
all
their
work,
Desi
and
Jody
upstairs
on
the
safety
act
lawsuit.
It
is
a
definitely
a
huge
team
effort,
so.
D
You
know
I
think
the
first
meeting
I
was
sworn
in
I
made
reference
to
some
of
the
individuals
who
hold
positions
of
authority.
Lori
you,
the
sheriff,
Dan
Nick.
You
know
they
were
rock
stars.
I
called
hell
for
that
from
my
party,
but
you
know
politics
is
about
addition
and
opposite
traction
and
it's
about
relationships
and
fostering
positive
relationships.
But
I,
you
know
again.
D
D
I'm
concerned
now,
Bobby
I
mean
I
had
some.
You
know,
I
I
got
kind
of
teary
when
I
was
talking
about
Bob,
because
you
know
there's
some
other
stuff.
That
Bob
has
done
that
I'll
I'll
take
to
my
grave.
You
know
he
he
is
like
the
creme
de
La
Creme,
but
but
you
know
that
the
Gessner
family
is
just
you
know
super,
but
anyway
the
services
you
guys
provide
are
just
really
amazing
and
I.
D
Think
the
107
000
people
in
the
county,
you
know
owe
you
guys
a
debt
of
gratitude
for
the
services
you
guys
provide
and
I
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you
very
much
because
oftentimes,
you
know
people
are
griping
and
and
talking
about
elected
official
what
they
don't
do,
but
sometimes
it's
kind
of
nice
for
for
us
to
tell
you
guys
what
a
good
job
you
guys
have
done.
Yeah.
J
It's
it's
a
it's,
the
partnership.
You
know
it's
Partnerships
with
the
coroner's
office
with
Administration,
with
Sandy,
with
Ed,
with
Tom,
with
the
share
of
everybody.
Everyone
works
together.
Well,
there's
people
that
hate
that
it's
like
a
gang
mentality
right.
They
think
you
need
to
stay
on
your
side
and
everyone
else
needs
to
stay
on
there
and
when-
and
they
don't
want
you
to
reach
across
the
aisle-
they
don't
want
you
to
to
work
with
other
people.
J
A
A
K
Go
ahead.
Thank
you.
Roger
I
I'd
like
to
come
before
the
board
this
morning
to
make
a
public
apology
to
one
of
the
members
of
this
committee.
Ms
Andrade
was
aiding
a
client
of
mine
at
the
courthouse
a
couple
weeks
ago.
I
actually
saw
her
and
the
client
spoke
to
them
briefly.
That
morning,
after
I
left,
one
of
my
assistants,
who
I
will
not
list
by
name,
engage
with
the
client
and
Ms
Andretti
enacted
inappropriately,
was
abrasive
and
unprofessional
upon
that
happening.
K
I
happen
to
be
in
the
rotunda
at
that
time.
I
spoke
to
I,
didn't
acknowledge,
Mr
drought
at
that
point,
but
I
spoke
to
the
client's
mother,
who
also
received
part
of
the
the
brunt
of
his
Behavior
I
immediately
took
action
to
some
degree.
I
asked
did
everything
he
put
in
writing.
I
immediately
talked
to
the
attorney
in
question
about
his
behavior.
K
I've
also
took
steps
to
well
after
talking
to
him.
I
know
that
he
reached
out
to
the
clients
mother
and
that
they
he
made
a
ride
with
her
I
did
speak
to
her
personally
I
know
it
took
a
while,
but
I
know
that
he
did
reach
out
to
Ms
Andrade.
Obviously,
I
don't
speak
for
Ms
Andrade,
but
hopefully
things
at
least
to
some
degree
got
smoothed
out.
I
had
had
that
person
take
two
what's
called
cles
regarding
Civility
and
professionalism,
in
an
attempt
to
at
least
Point
him
in
the
right
direction.
K
I
do
apologize
for
that
Ms,
Andrade
and
hopefully
going
forward.
Things
will
work
out
better
and
we
appreciate
all
your
help.
I
appreciate
all
your
help
and
I
appreciate
your
help
with
the
clients
too.
That's
a
big.
That's
above
me
on
your
duty
and
I
appreciate
you
going
to
Bedford
Ms,
Mack
and
her
family.
Ultimately,
the
case
did
get
resolved
to
to
her
satisfaction,
but
that
again,
that
does
not
justify
his
behavior,
so
I
again
apologize
foreign.
H
I
I'd
like
to
say
too,
you
know
obviously
just
being
County
board,
but
I
I'm
glad
that
you
took
this
seriously
and
filed
appropriate
action
because
it
could
have
been
anybody
in
the
courthouse
who
would
have
been
in
that
circumstance.
Just
so
happened
that
she
felt
like
she
could
come
forward
and
say
something
about
it,
not
everybody
May,
exactly.
A
H
A
H
We're
gonna
be
down
four
next
week,
which,
with
September
18th
right
around
the
corners,
an
issue,
and
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
we
we're
looking
with
monitoring
pre-trial,
we
would
probably
need
several
more
positions
from
the
state,
but
yet
we
can't
fill
or
we
have
so
it
really
doesn't
do
much
better.
So
we're
we're
concerned.
H
We're
gonna
have
the
best.
We
can.
We
just
don't
know
the
numbers.
We
don't
know
how
much
GPS
is
involved
and
the
cost
of
GPS
and
all
that
so
well,
no
one.
We
know
but
I.
You
know
our
staff's
again
stepping
up
even
with
these
vacancies
and
doing
what
they
need
to
do.
But
that's
what
we're
looking
at
with
after
September
18th,
so.
H
H
I
H
A
L
Sorry,
inmate
population
has
remained
consistent
with
the
numbers
that
I've
the
past
few
months.
Our
average
locals
in
July
we're
203
from
from
January
to
July.
The
average
is
217,
so
they've
actually
come
down.
A
little
bit
are
on
a
county
average
for
July
is
391,
which
is
a
significant
increase,
and
that
number,
when
you
take
January
through
July,
is
365.
L
So
as
of
July
31st,
if
you
look
to
the
far
right,
we
are,
we
have
an
additional
2
million
dollars
in
Revenue
at
this
time
last
year,
so
that
is
certainly
positive.
One
thing
to
keep
in
mind,
though,
with
that
additional
Revenue
there
obviously
is
additional
costs
due
to
some
staffing
that
we'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
later
under
Staffing.
L
If
you,
if
you
look,
we
have
them
broken
down
into
categories,
and
if
you
look
under
the
transports
to
Chicago
you
see,
last
year
we
had
116
trips
to
Chicago.
For
the
U.S
Marshals
and
as
you
can
see
this
year
through
July
we've
already,
we
we've
we're
at
138,
so
that
has
increased
significantly,
obviously
with
the
ending
of
covid.
L
L
L
Down
Under
the
sworn
side.
Probably
the
most
important
thing
to
to
keep
in
mind,
is
that
our
calls
for
service
continues
to
increase
and
I
look
for
that
to
go
up
significantly
after
September
18th
when
those
who
are
not
detained
as
the
term
goes
go
back
to
wherever
it
is,
they
live
or
work
or
reside,
and
unfortunately,
some
will
continue
to
require
calls
for
service.
So
I
anticipate
that
number
going
up,
because
those
individuals
will
not
be
in
jail.
A
L
A
L
Computer
equipment,
yes,
we
have
and
I
think
you
guys
have
the
list
right.
Yes,
most
all
of
that
computer
equipment,
most
of
it
is
15
to
20
years
old.
We
got
out
of
it
what
we
could
and
it's
been
replaced,
I
think
a
lot
of
it
was
done
early
on
in
2020
as
we
accumulated
it.
It's
sitting
off
in
storage.
It's
really
none,
there's
no
use
for
it.
I
would
just
like
a
declared
Surplus
Surplus,
so
we
could
get
rid
of
it.
G
L
Yeah
we
have
over
the
course
of
the
last
three
or
four
years
there
have
been
times
where
we
have
had
vehicles
that
have
been
involved
in
accidents
and
the
last
probably
well.
The
last
two
were
accidents
that
involved
a
case
that
we
were
responding
to
prior
to
that
it
was
cases
that
we
were
responding
to
in
other
jurisdictions.
L
Now
there
is
a
House
Bill
1727
which,
which
has
been
signed
by
the
governor
talks
about
this
issue
with
squad
cars,
and
the
issue
is
that
any
purchase
by
a
county
with
fewer
than
2
million
and
having
as
a
Services
materials
or
criminal
supplies
in
excess
of
thirty
thousand
dollars.
Other
than
Professional
Services
shall
be
contracted
for
in
one
of
the
following
ways
and
under
number
three,
which
is
new
language
by
a
contract.
Let
without
advertising
for
bids.
L
L
L
Just
so,
this
committee
knows
we're
we're
looking
for
vehicles
that
will
that
we
are
able
to
enter
into
our
Fleet.
That
will
benefit
our
department.
We
I
promise
I
will
not
come
back
with
a
a
Lexus
or
a
Porsche,
or
anything
like
that
that
so
we
will.
We
do
have
just
so
just
so.
This
committee
knows
we
have
received.
So
one
of
the
vehicles
was
a
2017..
The
other
vehicle
was
a
2020,
so
relatively
new,
we
weren't
all
that
disappointed
about
the
2017,
because
ultimately,
that
would
have
been
replaced
anyway.
L
We
did
receive
after
deductibles
I
think
we've
received
a
total
of
fifty
thousand
dollars,
I
think
it
was,
and
my
numbers
I
think
it
was
29
000
for
the
2020
and
I
think
it
was
like
18
000
for
the
17.
So
all
told
that
that
total
that
we
received
equals
about
one
car,
one
new
car,
so
we're
gonna
do
our
best
to
try
to
finagle
something
where
we
can
find
money
for
two,
but
not
at
this
point.
We
just
need
approval
to
go.
Look
for
them.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chairman,
just
a
couple
of
questions.
Sheriff
Downey
with
respect
to
I,
know
I
had
a
discussion
with
you
about
interfacing,
with
Senator
Sims
as
much
as
he
was
one
of
the
movers
and
shakers
on
the
safety
act.
Were
you
successful
in
in
terms
of
inviting
him
to
I?
Don't
know,
let's
try,
rivers
or
whatever.
It
is
venue
that
you're
going
to
have
to
invite
him
to
discuss
the
ramifications
of
the
safety
act
and
there's
another
question.
D
L
J
L
L
I
will
tell
you
this
following
that
post
and-
and
this
is
the
aggravating
part
after
he
gets
on
there
and
calls
me
out
for
not
contacting
him.
Our
office
reached
out
to
his
office,
sent
him
two
emails
requesting
that
he
come
to
our
Eastern
Illinois
Law
Enforcement
association
meeting,
because
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
Chiefs
are-
and
that
was
over
two
weeks
ago-
and
we
have
not
heard
word
one.
L
L
So
yeah,
so
our
staffing
from
a
from
a
police
side
is,
is
we
are
good.
We
are
at
full
staff.
We
have
two
people
that
have
retired
in
the
last.
One
is
actually
done,
August
19th
I
believe
and
we
have
replace
well,
we
haven't
replaced
them
yet,
but
we
do
have
people
on
the
list
and
laterals
that
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
replace
them
with.
We
will
then,
once
our
list
is
exhausted.
L
L
in
May
and
then
another
long
time
employee
will
be
retiring,
I
believe
in
March,
so
we'll
have
two
slots
of
fill.
So
on
the
on
the
police
side
we're
doing
very
well,
we've
got
a
great
staff,
they
work
hard
they're
still
doing
what
they
need
to
do
based
on
and
they
will
after
September
18th.
Our
department
will
continue
to
do
what
we
have
to
do
within
the
rules
within
the
laws
and
we'll
see
what
happens.
L
I
hope,
I,
hope
we
don't
have
to
say,
I
told
you
so
but
we'll
see
on
the
correction
side,
the
jail,
Administration
and
Corrections
side
has
done
a
great
job
and
it
is
tough
to
find
people
who
want
to
work
in
the
jail.
If
somebody
wants
to
work
in
law
enforcement,
they
want
to
be
the
police
or
they
want
to
be
probation.
Although
Tom's
struggling
to
find
a
couple,
people
too,
however,
they've
done
a
great
job
in
getting
some
individuals.
L
We've
actually
gotten
a
number
of
people
from
the
Illinois
Department
of
Corrections
who
have
come
to
work
for
us,
because
that
whole
thing
is
kind
of
a
it's
tough
to
work
at
IDOC.
Let's
just
put
it
that
way,
so
we've
done
good,
we're
probably
still
about
eight
to
ten
officers
short,
but
through
attrition
and
things
like
that.
With
people
moving
on
and
police
departments
all
across
the
state
of
Illinois
are
hiring.
L
We
lost
one
correctional
officer
to
Alito
Police
Department
in
Illinois,
which
is
over
by
I,
believe
Rockford
or
Rock
Island
somewhere
over
there,
the
western
part
of
the
state.
So
it's
not
just
locally
we're
losing
correctional
officers.
I
mean
it's
Statewide,
so
good
for
them.
They
they
want
to
do
something
that
they've
chosen
to
do
so,
but
we'll
continue
to
work
and
but
the
corrections
staff
has
done
a
great
job
again
as
as
crowded
as
we've
been
without
a
county
inmates.
L
I
can
tell
you
that
and
I
know
Sandy
mentioned
a
little
bit,
but
going
through
our
records
when
you
talk
about
Bond
money,
because
you
know,
if
you
remember
the
argument
that
was
made
by
a
number
of
people
regarding
the
safety
act
and
posting
cash,
bail,
I
think
now
they're
calling
it
you're
buying
your
way
out
of
jail
or
whatever.
But
our
office
collects
over
the
past
three
past
three
years
over
three
million
dollars
every
year
of
bond
money
three
million
per
year.
L
So
for
somebody
out
there
to
say
that
you
know
these
we're
just
holding
poor
people
and
and
all
that,
it's
not
true.
The
people
that
are
in
jail
right
now
should
be
in
jail,
and
you
know
the
fact
that
you
know
we're
collecting
that
much
money
and
we're
Kankakee
County
a
county
of
107
000.
You
know
I
I,
wouldn't
even
Venture
a
guess
what
Lake
County
DuPage
County
all
those
counties
are
collecting
every
every
year
and
buy
money.
Now,
when
you
figure
that
10
percent
of
that
we
keep
that's
I
mean
I'm
no
mathematician.
L
But
that
sounds
like
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
we
won't
have
anymore
and
everybody
says
well,
you
know
why
should
the
county
benefit
from
making
an
arrest
and
somebody
posting
buying?
Well,
people
forget,
there's
a
cost
to
doing
business,
there's
a
cost
to
prosecute
them.
There's
a
cost
to
defend
them.
A
A
M
The
top
part
is
revenue
that
we
accept
that
comes
into
our
building
as
far
as
a
registration
that
is
rabies
tags.
So
you
go
to
the
vet's
office.
You
get
your
dog
vaccinated,
the
rabies
tags
fees
comes
to
us,
that's
the
majority
of
our
income.
So
you
can
see
this
year,
we've
collected
329
thousand
dollars
overall
and
248
000
of
that
has
been
registration
income,
so
that
is
the
majority
of
our
budget
and
the
law-abiding
citizens
for
animals
provide
that
for
us.
M
M
M
Our
euthanasia
has
gone
up.
Unfortunately,
that
is
because
there
are
more
animals
in
the
county
and
more
stray
animals
and
more
unwanted
pets,
because
they're,
not
spay
or
neutering
the
pets
they
come
to
our
building.
They
are
not
the
greatest
pets
that
you
could
say
you
would
want
in
your
backyard,
your
neighbor's
backyard.
They
are
unfortunately
not
able
to
be
adopted,
so
they
are
therefore
euthanized
or
they
are
unhealthy
animals
sick,
something
like
that
we
do,
and
that
number
is
owner
surrounding
euthanasia.
M
M
A
D
M
So
we
don't
have
a
current
contract
with
them.
We
are
kind
of
waiting
at
this
point
until
our
new
building
opens,
because
you
can
see
by
our
numbers
for
the
contracts
that
we
currently
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
animals,
we
do
take
numbers,
we
do
take
animals
from
the
city,
but
if
we
we
were
able
to
tell
them,
we
could
hold
on
to
them
somebody
hold
on
to
the
morning
and
we're
able
to
take
them
later
or
we
can't
hold
certain
animals
at
certain
times.
M
M
Yes,
no
he's
very
willing
to
sign
a
contract
with
us
we're
holding
off
and
on
our
end,
because
of
the
building,
we
don't
have
the
numbers
taken
every
animal.
At
this
time,
city
has
been
able
to
they've
been
very
understanding
on
that.
We
have
way
too
many
animals
dealing
with
other
areas
of
the
county
to
assist
all
the
time,
but
the
city
they
have
an
understanding.
We
still
do
except
their
animals,
just
not
every
single
time,
they've
been
able
to
find
owners
on
their
own,
which
has
been
helpful.
Thank.
D
A
N
Just
to
let
you
know
that
the
last
few
months
we've
really
been
low
on
autopsies,
but
in
in
a
number
of
calls
we're
now
increasing,
especially
in
July
we're
if
you
go
all
the
way
down
to
the
list
or
I
had
I
had
to
change
here
this
morning,
because
we
had
a
change
already.
We've
had
15
suicides
at
this
point
right
now,
which
is
unbelievable
in
this
County
at
a
hundred
and
seven
thousand
so
last
year,
all
together
we
had
22..
N
A
N
N
N
well
we're
we're
continuing
on
I
was
happy
that
I'll
get
an
opportunity
to
go
out
to
the
Pembroke
area.
I've
been
trying
to
get
out
there
for
a
long
time
there
and
now
I
get
the
opportunity
I'm
going
to
go
out
there
and
speak
on
how
powerful
these
drugs
are
and
then
the
xylazine
is
being
shown
all
around
us
and
will
the
page
and
it's
going
to
be
coming
down
to
us
again.
N
That's
an
awesome
mixture
of
one
day.
In
one
case,
we've
had
fentanyl
cocaine,
heroin
and
xylazine
all
mixed
together,
so
people
that
were
on
and
I
talk
about
people
that
I
know
that
might
be
on
cocaine.
Don't
even
watch
yourself,
you
know,
that's
it's
illegal,
you
know,
but
the
fact
is
you
don't
know.
What's
going
to
be
in
there?
Where
do
you
buy
that
stuff
at
but
continually
working
with
the
law
enforcement
they're
doing
an
excellent
job?
N
It's
just
it's
mind-boggling,
to
find
out
which
is
costing
again
the
taxpayers
of
the
amount
of
money
it's
costing
us
in
doing
autopsies,
and
not
only
that
out
of
that
the
ones
we've
had
already,
as
I
talked
about
five
I.
Think
Eric
told
me
this
morning
that
we've
had
between
three
to
four
that
we've
been
able
to
get
away
from
doing
on
overdose,
because
it's
a
car
accident
and
the
cause
of
death
is
blunt
force
trauma
from
an
automobile
mishap.
N
So
there's
no
alcohol,
no
drugs
are
going
to
be
involved
in
it.
Even
though
they
they
came
back
positive.
So
it's
just
something.
That's
it's
constantly
on
my
mind
and
I'll
continue
to
work
hard
as
I
can
and
Eric
and
I
will
we're.
We
still
are
going
out
to
the
seniors
and
talking
to
them
and
hopefully
do
more
school
programs
coming
up
here.