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Executive Committee Meeting 08/26/2020 9:00 AM
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A
A
A
Apparently
it
was
reported
by
somebody
for
being
either
fake
news
or
hate,
or
something-
and
I
just
wanted
to
I've
been
talking
to
bob
this
morning
and
they
just
came
out
with
a
press
release
I'll
just
read
this
quote.
It
is
disheartening
that,
in
the
middle
of
a
global
health
pandemic,
facebook
has
removed
our
page,
which
has
been
a
source
of
honest
and
truthful
information
over
the
past
several
months
as
an
elected
official
and
leader
within
our
county.
A
My
staff
and
I
have
worked
hard
over
the
years
building
the
office
of
coroner,
one
known
for
corner
to
one
known
for
professionalism,
integrity
and
honesty,
and
we
will
not
let
the
actions
of
facebook
officials
change
that.
I
find
this
extremely
disturbing
that
facebook
would
take
a
government
information
page
down
without
any
due
process
whatsoever,
something
that
people
depend
on
on
a
daily
basis
for
information.
A
It's
frightening.
I
think
this
should
be
alert
to
anybody.
Whatever
political
sphere
you're
in
that
one
day,
you're
the
thought
police,
then
the
next
day
the
thought
police
come
for
you.
You
need
to
keep
that
in
mind,
because
you
may
not
agree
with
something,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
tables
can't
turn
and
it
needs
to
be
fair
and
it
needs
to
be
due
process.
I
am
shocked
and
appalled
that
this
could
actually
happen
in
america.
It's
just
it's
sad,
it's
just
sad.
A
A
I
appreciate
the
input
have
a
great
day
and
I
got
yelled
at
for
the
minute
and
a
half
in
between
those
first
set
of
words
in
the
second,
without
any
opportunity
to
have
a
conversation
so
apparently
board
members
were
being
called
and
told
that
I
hung
up
on
somebody.
That
is
not
the
case.
I
listened
to
the
person
they
yelled
at
me.
They
didn't
want
to
have
a
conversation.
I
thanked
them
for
their
input
and
said
have
a
good
day.
So
now
you
know
exactly
what
happened?
A
D
D
D
The
third
topic
was
covet
19
issues
in
the
county
workplace
and
focused
on
two
pieces
of
federal
legislation
that
had
been
passed
very
early.
The
family
friendly
cares,
leave
act
and
the
expanded
family
medical
act.
I
I've
spoken
to
our
county
administrator
and
all
of
that
information
way
back
in
march
has
already
been
distributed
to
our
employees,
and
so
those
notices
have
been
taken
care
of,
as
I
expected
would
have
been
true.
A
Alrighty
any
questions
about
any
of
that
for
steve.
I
believe
I
don't
know
if
anita
that
you,
you
guys,
have
those
power
points
too.
We
they
were
on
that
call
as
well,
so,
whether
it's
steve
or
administration,
let
us
know
if
you
want
a
copy
of
that-
that
information
anything
okay,
thanks
steve
under
information
services
kevin.
Do
you
have
anything
for
us
today,
yeah.
E
E
It
took
out
their
air
conditioner
unit
for
the
server
room
and
that's
critical
for
this
building,
those
that
server
room
cannot
reach
over
89,
and
we
have
enough
servers
that
if
it
goes
for
very
long
without
air
conditioning
it'll
go
well
over
a
hundred,
we
were
able
to
work
with
the
maintenance
department.
We
were
able
to
keep
that
temperature
down
until
west
was
able
to
obtain
a
couple
temporary
air
conditioning
units
that
are
still
running
there
now,
which
apparently
our
dedicated
air
community
conditioning
unit
for
that
server.
E
E
E
If
we
lose
that
server
room
because
the
servers
would
shut
themselves
down,
no
one
in
this
building
would
be
able
to
operate.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
serve
anybody
because
we
don't
have
anything
that's
done
by
paper
anymore.
So
it's
critical
that
we
keep.
On
top
of
that,
I
gotta
thank
wes
for
getting
those
temporary
units
as
fast
as
he
did.
E
E
I
always
have
a
backup
for
the
county.
We
have
two
internet
sources
providers
at
all
times.
What
I
did
when
internet
went
out
for
over
a
week
at
that
building
is.
I
was
I
had
it
set
up
where
I
transferred
the
users
over
there
to
our
building's
access,
which
is
actually
more
than
theirs,
and
we
we're
on
a
t
they're
in
comcast
we're
on
fiverr.
They
have
a
smaller
bandwidth
that
worked
for
the
public,
I
mean
for
their
employees.
E
We
had
to
wait
on
the
server
for
36
hours,
because
that's
a
much
more
complex
procedure
to
transfer
that
after
36
hours,
I
see
the
comcast
wasn't
going
to
bring
that
back
up.
We
brought
that
server
over
too
so
now,
they're
on
our
network
here
and
we're
going
to
keep
them
here,
because
we
have
a
much.
E
We
have
a
better
grade
of
internet
access
in
this
building.
Comcast
came
back
up
about
a
week
later,
we're
going
to
keep
it,
but
we're
going
to
keep
it
now
as
a
backup
for
us.
We
always
want
to
make
sure
we
have
two
providers,
because
it's
rare
that
both
providers
will
go
out
at
the
same
time
and
we
need
to
make
sure
the
county
can
always
operate.
E
Almost
everything
that
the
county
buildings
do
are
online
between
email,
communications,
the
treasurer
when
it
deals
with
the
banks.
That's
online,
the
finance
everything
is
online,
so
it's
critical
that
we
keep
the
internet
going,
keep
emails
going
and
then,
lastly,
on
the
annex
building
when
that
storm
hit,
it
took
out
a
couple
of
key
switches.
So
the
whole
second
floor
was
out,
but
I
always
keep
a
backup
supplies
very
easy.
So
we
were
able
to
put
that
in
place
and
replace
that
and
get
them
back
back
up
again.
Our
procedures
for
emergency
situations
worked.
A
A
C
Good
morning,
everyone
obviously
I've.
I've
got
a
number
of
things
here
that
I
could
discuss
and
prepare,
but
I
I
think
we're
all
aware
that,
as
of
today
this
morning,
based
upon
the
governor's
press
conference
yesterday
and
information
that
really
andy-
and
I
only
officially
found
out
on
monday-
was
even
going
to
be
happening
in
in
regards
to
this,
but
our
region,
the
will
county,
kankakee
region,
has
been
placed
under
more
stringent
mitigation
factors
similar
and
not
similar
to
what
they
did
to
the
metro
east
region
4
area
last
week.
C
C
C
That's
a
good
point:
okay,
so
the
mitigation
factors
that
are
going
into
effect
as
of
this
morning
bars
no
indoor
service.
All
outside
bar
service
closes
at
11.
All
bar
patrons
should
be
seated
at
tables
outside
no
ordering
seating
or
congregating
at
bars.
The
bar
stools
now
the
language
that
we
got
says
should
be
removed.
The
governor
yesterday
stated
in
his
press
conference,
said,
has
to
be
removed,
so,
but
but
regardless,
no
indoor
activity
is
to
be
taking
place.
C
C
If
the
metrics
do
not
improve
for
our
region,
and
then
they
give
information
on
where
the
mitigation
metrics
can
be
viewed.
Obviously,
idph
has
that
information
on
its
website.
The
health
department
has
that
information
on
its
website,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
county
links
you
know
informationally,
you
know
through
yours.
You
know
to
to
visit
the
health
department
for
people
who
are
interested
in
seeing
those
numbers
on
on
where
the
state
sees
that.
I
will
say
that
the
metrics
that
the
governor
has
provided
runs
a
week
behind.
C
C
To
be
honest,
I'm
struggling
trying
to
find
that
information
where
you
can
see
that,
and
so
your
frustrations
are,
are
my
frustrations.
I
have
to
to
take
it
on
faith
that
the
state
is
is
telling
us,
then
what
they
see.
Unfortunately,
that
data
is
not
kept
up
to.
You
know
enough
of
a
consistent,
quick
enough
basis
for
for
us
to
be
able
to
see
that.
C
Kankakee
county,
obviously,
and-
and
I
want
to
say
this
now-
because
it's
I
I've
tried
to
say
this
twice
in
articles
to
the
newspaper-
the
quotes
being
left
out
it.
My
opinions,
don't
necessarily
matter
in
this.
You
know
the
health
department
has
has
its
job,
that
it
needs
to
do,
and
it
will
do,
and
I
pledge
that
support
for
the
community
and
everybody
in
regards
to
continuing
to
do.
C
We
are
not
over
on
the
positivity
rate
as
near
as
I
can
tell
as
of
last
friday
anyway,
and
based
upon
the
numbers
that
we've
been
seeing
in
the
past
week
that
we
post
for
our
cases
we're
at
around
five
and
a
half
even
for
giggle
sake.
If
we
said
we're
at
six
percent,
which
means
then
that,
because
we're
in
the
region
with
will
county,
their
numbers
are
higher,
which
is
driving
the
percentage
overall
on
an
average
to
to
eight
percent.
As
a
result
of
that,
that's
what's
triggering
our
region.
So
I
don't
so
again.
C
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everybody
for
what
they
have
been
doing
and
and
we're
asking
your
support
to
continue
to
do
it
for
another
two
weeks,
for
these
14
days
will
counties
pledging
their
support
to
do
so.
They
want
to
get
their
numbers
back
in
the
blue
if
they
do
what
they
need
to
do
and
our
county.
C
The
thought
of
whose
fault
this
is
and
and
will
county
in
two
weeks
could
have
the
numbers
that
they
need
to
have
and
our
numbers
have
gone
up
and,
as
a
result,
the
governor
will
make
more
stringent
mitigation
factors
for
us.
I
don't
want
that.
You
don't
want
that.
I
know
our
community
doesn't
want
that,
but
I
would
like
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone
in
the
county
for
what
you've
been
doing
so
far,
because
I
feel
we've
done
one
heck
of
a
job
here
to
to
be
where
we
are.
As
of
today.
G
G
Wheeler
as
well
as
senator
joyce
and
and
you
really
fought
a
good
battle
as
far
as
removing
us
from
our
neighbors
to
the
north
via
comments
written
communications
through
the
to
the
governor
et
cetera.
And
I
appreciate
you
know
the
empirical
stuff
that
you're
conveying
to
us
and-
and
I
think
our
citizens
need
to
know
that
what
has
transpired,
but
anyway
appeal
process
and
the
other
comments
associated
with
that.
And.
C
I
guess
we're
going
to
go
down
that
road
I
don't
want
to,
but
I
know
that
discussions
letters
with
with
andy
senator
joyce
representative
parkhurst,
a
number
of
individuals,
some
other
mayors
within
our
community-
look
we're
all
not
happy
about
this,
but
ultimately,
yes,
that
is
being
done.
It's
being
asked,
but
I
don't
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
it's
going
to
change
anything
yeah.
G
My
concern,
I'm
not
looking
at
this
as
a
political
situation.
I
think
it's
the
pragmatic
thing
to
do
that
that
some
of
us
have
talked
about
even
before
the
meeting
started
regarding
the
adverse
impact
it's
going
to
have
upon
local
businesses
and
stuff.
I
know
from
a
personal
perspective
I
was
supposed
to.
I
was
supposed
to
have
my
grandson
down
here
doing
a
little
fishing
this
weekend,
but
his
parents
vetoed
it.
G
A
Never
instituted
that
because
then
he
was
going
to
do
what
he
did
to
us
today.
I
just
want
clarification
because
there's
a
lot
of
they
just
they
heard
about
it
and
they
complained,
and
so
he
didn't
put
that
step
on.
They
changed
from
the
day
before
really
on
monday
it
was.
This
was
going
to
be
instituted
in
madison
and
saint
clair
counties
just
what
we
got
today,
but
then
that
changed
in
a
day.
H
Okay,
so
is
there
I
mean
because
again
I
myself,
you
know,
bring
it
somewhat
personal.
My
household
has
been
impacted
dramatically
in
this
that
you
know
shut
down
and
we
have
businesses
that
have
you
know
we're
just
getting
back
on
their
feet:
employees
that
were
just
getting
back
to
work
now,
this
just
again
the
impact
and
I'm
not
denying
the
virus
is
you
know
not
serious,
and
all
that
I
you
know,
I
feel
for
everyone.
That's
been
affected
by
it.
H
At
the
same
time,
the
other
side
effects
of
this
is
the
it's
just
overwhelming
and,
like
I
said,
our
local
economy
and
just
the
area,
businesses
and
local
employees
that
are,
you,
know,
they're
wondering
how
they're
gonna
pay
bills
and
how
they're
gonna
get
by-
and
that's
just
you
know,
if
there's
a
way
to
speak
out
and
just
say:
we
support
local
businesses,
that's
and
local
people
who
are
getting
hurt
by
this.
That's
all.
C
I
don't
know
that
there's
a
positive
side
overall
for
this
other
than
one
it's
to
help
reduce
the
numbers
in
cases,
although
our
county
has
been
doing,
as
I
said,
a
tremendous
job
in
doing
that,
and-
and
we
need
to
help
with
our
thoughts
and
prayers
in
regards
to
will
county
being
able
to
get
their
numbers
down,
which
hopefully
then
helps
put
our
region
back
in
the
blue
and
and
not
having
any
of
these
mitigation
factors.
You
know.
A
So,
just
to
answer
both
of
those
questions
indirectly
and
directly
from
mr
hunter.
My
communications
have
always
been.
We
should
be
considered
on
our
own.
At
best
we
should,
at
the
very
least
we
should
have
been
removed
from
that
chicago
region
like
grundy,
county's,
a
warning
but
the
rest
of
their
county.
Their
region
is
not
so
they're,
not
they're
they're,
not
over
the
the
line
and
aggregate
of
everybody.
I
don't
know
that
cook
is
going
to
remain
the
way
that
they
are
now
they
could
be
trending
in
that
other
direction.
A
So
my
whole
thing
is
and
that's
what
I
put
in
the
press
release
and
in
my
communications,
the
governor's
office,
each
health
department
region
should
be
considered
on
its
own,
because
we
don't
have
in
my
opinion,
we
have
no
authority
over
will
county
will
county's
health
department
can't
come
down
here.
They
can
only
manage
what
they
have.
A
mandate
to
manage
is
their
own
area.
A
A
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
I
can
mention
that
the
there
was
a
letter,
I've
seen
it
on
the
facebook
from
mayor
watson
and
it
went
out
to
most
of
the
mayors
and
to
the
public
and,
as
I
saw
on
the
the
the
email
at
about
nine
o'clock
at
night,
the
media
at
the
same
time,
and
basically
saying
that
you
know
he
didn't
think
it
was.
You
know
fair.
I'm
just
you
know
summarizing
that.
A
But
the
key
part
of
it,
for
me
was
is
that
that
the
statement
in
the
press
release
by
the
governor's
office-
and
I
paraphrase
that
local
health
officials
were
consulted
in
this
decision,
which
is
I
loved,
mash
and
colonel-
was
colonel
potter
used
to
say
horse
hockey.
That
was
horse
hockey.
They
didn't
consult
us
with
anything.
They
told
us
what
they
were
doing
to
us
on
the
phone
call,
so
that
that's
about
the
best
way.
To
put
it,
I
thought
that
was
a
beyond
a
misrepresentation
of
the
truth.
A
It
was
an
outright
falsehood,
so
we
were
told
what
we
were
going
to
be
was
being
done
to
us
and
not
consulted
with
what
should
we
do
so
that
that's
the
part
that-
and
I
think
that's
where
mayor
watson
might
have
had
an
issue-
is
because
he's
like
well
where's
our
voice,
who
who
consulted
us?
Well,
just
so
everybody
knows
we
weren't
consulted.
F
C
I
I
just
I
I
in
reading
that
statement.
I
I
got
a
copy
of
that
too,
and
I
appreciate
the
correspondence
from
mayor
watson
in
regards
to
that
and
I
hope
he
he
wasn't
implying
that
he
felt
that
the
county
health
department
here
in
kankakee
was
somehow
in
secret
negotiations
with
the
state
without
letting
anybody
like
andy
wheeler
or
chairman
wheeler,
and
any
of
the
other
mayors
know
what
we
were
trying
to
negotiate
here.
Because,
as
andy
said,
that
was
not
the
case.
A
I
I
C
I
don't
have
those
specific
numbers
in
front
of
me
when
people
get
tested,
whether
it's
at
the
hospitals
at
amita,
st
mary's,
for
example,
or
at
riverside,
where
they
might
go
to
aunt
martha's
or
they
go
to
cvs
or
or
any
of
the
facilities
right
now
that
are
doing
the
testing.
Those
tests
through
those
facilities
go
into
an
electronic
system
that
goes
to
the
state.
C
So
they
see
those
numbers
you
know
kind
of
as
they
happen.
We
don't
necessarily
see
that
at
the
health
department
we
get
given
the
information
on
the
individuals
that
test
positive
and
then
the
state
obviously
will
put
out
every
day
in
a
press
release
indicating
that
you
know
51
000
tests,
for
example,
were
done
on
a
given
day,
and
then
this
is
how
many
people
were
positive
for
the
state
of
illinois.
C
We
can
see
that
within
kankakee
county
on
a
given
day.
You
know
we
might
have
2
000
tests
attributed
to
our
county
and
then
here's
our
positive
cases
and
that
puts
our
positivity
rate
at
such
and
such
like.
I
said
the
last
number
that
I've
seen
officially
as
of
last
friday
was
you
know,
5.1
percent,
so
we're
well
with
under
the
8
threshold
that
they
want
to
do,
but
and
then
yes
to
to
what
you
ask
people
are
going
to
get
tested
because
their
work
is
requiring
it.
C
Some
people
are
getting
tested
because
they're
curious,
some
people
are
getting
tested
because
they're
sick
and
they
don't
feel
good.
Some
people
are
getting
tested
because
they're
getting
ready
for
a
medical
procedure
and
it's
necessary
before
the
hospital
will
will
do
it.
So
there's
a
number
of
reasons
that
people
can
get
tested.
Obviously
the
more
people
that
do
get
tested
will
help
push
that
positivity
rate
down,
but
there's
no
law
that
requires
them
to
get
tested
and
at
some
point
people
you
know
the
market
could
become
oversaturated.
C
I
I
I
Like
if
you
still
had
using
numbers,
not
our
number,
so
if
you
had
say
you
had
50
positive
cases
and
you
tested
400
people.
If
you
had
600
people
and
you
only
had
50
cases,
then
your
number's
way
down,
so
people
that
are
testing
are
going
to
test
negative,
are
afraid
to
go
there
because
they're
going
to
go
through
the
contract
contact
tracing
situation
where
they
got
to
go
back
and
lock,
everybody
up
that
was
basic,
might
have
been
asymptomatic.
Just
they
are.
C
A
So
I
think,
in
a
roundabout
way,
yes,
more
people
being
tested
is
a
good
thing.
The
other
thing
I
would
mention
that
that
when
this
is
the
way
it
kind
of
went
down
on
monday,
we
had
to
call
with
dr
ezekie
and
all
the
stakeholders
in
will
and
kankakee
counties
the
the
senators
representatives
everybody.
Then
I
got
off
the
call
I
talked
to
the
sheriff
and
the
state's
attorney.
Then
we
got
on
a
call
with
the
hospitals
and
john,
and
so
we-
and
that
was
a
long
call.
A
A
A
They
were
impacted
by
the
medical
community
and,
what's
actually
going
on,
there's
one
thing
that
people
need
to
realize
that
when
people
go
in
for
a
procedure
they're
being
tested
for
coving,
so
when
they're
in
the
hospital
having
a
procedure
and
they
test
positive
for
their,
you
know
they're
having
knee
surgery,
that's
a
covet
hospitalization,
okay
and
those
numbers
are
what
was
three
two
three
something
like
that.
Even
outside
of
that
there's
there's
just
we're
not
we're
not
seeing
it
right
now
as
far
as
hospitalizations.
A
So
I
want
to
temper
what
I'm
what
you,
what
you're
hearing
you
know.
One
hospital,
I
believe,
is
still
testing
people
through
a
doctor's
order,
the
other
one
you
can,
I
think,
go
in
and
get
a
test.
I
believe.
Still
I
don't
know
if
riverside
has
changed
that
or
not
recently,
but
regardless
more
testing
is
needed
to
drive
that
rate
down,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
do
it
seven
times
as
much
as
we
are
right
now,
because
will
county
has
seven
hundred
thousand
people?
Does
that
make
sense?
The
statistics
bear
out
in
that.
A
A
I
don't
as
I
look
at
that
map.
I
don't
remember
any
others.
You
got
cook
county,
but
that's
not.
You
know,
that's
that's
millions
of
people.
You
know,
then
you
got,
I
think,
we're
the
only
one,
that's
just
the
two
county
region
and
if
their
populations
were
similar,
then
statistically
that
would
bear
out.
So
I
just
want
to
put
put
some
perspective
behind
this.
Our
our
hospitals
are
comfortable
where
we're
at
nobody
likes
to
see
any
deaths,
but
they
know
what
the
real
situation
is
and
they're
not
alarmed
of.
A
J
Thank
you,
chairman
whaler,
mr
beavis.
I
appreciate
all
the
information
that
you've
given
us
and
and
putting
it
all
into
perspective,
because
it's
a
lot
of
information
to
take
in
my
question
is
about
enforcement.
What
does
the
governor's
order
expect
from
you
in
terms
of
enforcement?
Do
you
have
the
staff
to
do
that?
What
are
the
things
that
are
you
gonna
go?
You
know
prioritize
what's
going
on?
Can
you
address
that
a
little
bit
please.
C
C
C
The
second
thing
that
we're
going
to
do
is
promote
working
with
the
community
partners
and,
and
we've
been
doing
that
from
day
one
with
this
healthy
business
alliance
and
continuing
every
day
to
have
these
discussions,
as
we've
said
today,
to
provide
the
education
to
everybody
as
it
changes
daily
and
getting
that
information
out
and
on
the
social
media
platform
as
long
as
our
websites
don't
get
taken
down
and
getting
that
information
out
to
everybody.
The
third
thing
is
protecting
the
health
of
the
public,
and
so
in
regards
to
that
question.
C
The
the
system
or
the
process
is
going
to
be.
As
such,
a
formal
complaint
gets
made
to
the
health
department.
The
health
department
will
investigate
the
complaint.
The
business
is
found
to
be
complying.
They
will
receive
a
notice
for
their
records
that
the
investigation
was
completed
and
that
they're
complying
and
we
go
on
and
everyone
has
a
great
day
if
the
business
is
not
in
compliance.
C
The
ruling
allows
us
the
flexibility
to
give
them
a
warning
in
the
form
of
a
written
notice
that
you're
not
doing
what
you're
supposed
to
be
doing.
Here's
what
you
need
to
be
doing
to
be
complying,
and
we
will
give
you
a
time
frame
in
which
to
make
those
corrections.
This
is
similar
to
what
the
nuisance
policy
is
within.
What's
already
been
approved
by
the
the
county
board
back
in
1985,
when
the
health
department's
nuisance
ordinance
was
created,
if
they
don't
voluntarily
comply
with
that
notice,
then
we'll
another
inspection
will
take
place.
C
They
will
be
given
a
written
warning,
possibly
asking
them
to
cease
and
desist
their
business,
possibly
asking
them
to
reduce
the
number
of
people
within
the
building
and
then,
if
they
continue
to
not
comply,
they
could
receive
a
class
a
misdemeanor
and
be
subject
to
a
fine,
that's
the
process.
I've
worked
with
nancy
nicholson
and
jim
rowe
with
the
state's
attorney's
office.
C
This
is
what
this
law
was
changed
to
two
weeks
ago.
This
is
what
health
departments
are
being
asked
to
do
in
regards
to
the
number
of
people
that
we
have.
We
have
four
environmental
health
staff
that
go
out
and
inspect
650
licensed
facilities,
that's
food
facilities,
not
all
the
other
places,
but
right
now
these
mitigation
factors
impact
food
and
bar
for
the
most
part.
That
being
said,
I
would
rather,
my
staff
honestly,
be
out
there
doing
food
inspections
to
make
sure
that
the
food
people
eat
is
safe
to
eat
and
that
the
facilities
are
sanitary.
C
A
Yeah
and
it's
in
my
opinion,
you
guys
aren't
trained
to
be
law
enforcement
officers,
you're
trained
to
be
inspectors
and
know
the
health
codes
and
things
like
that
they're
putting
you're
being
put
in
a
situation
that
is
not
the
standard
for
health
departments.
One
thing
I
want
to
make
sure
of
formal
complaint:
do
you
require
that
in
writing
and
say
who
you
are
and
where
you
live
in
your
contact
information,
or
can
somebody
just
call
up
and
throw
out
an
accusation,
willy
nilly,
because
that's
gonna
happen?
C
The
the
the
best
way
to
answer
that
is
is
yes,
we
do
have
a
process
that
a
a
formal
complaint
needs
to
be
something
a
little
more
substantial
in
regards
to
who's,
making
it
what's
being
alleged
and
and
the
ability
of
us
to
investigate
it
so
that
we
don't
end
up
just
so.
For
example,
people
like
we
don't
monitor
what
people
say
on
facebook,
so
every
stream
following
or
something
that
people
say
or
do
if
they're
saying
well,
I
was
at
such
and
such
a
place
and
here's
what
I
saw.
C
That
is
not
a
formal
complaint.
We
need
people
to
you
know
the
process
was
realistically,
you
come
to
the
health
department
in
person
and
make
the
complaint
give
us
your
name
and
number
it'll
be
confidential
and
we'll
investigate
it.
We'll
call
you
up
and
we'll
tell
you
what
we
found
out,
regardless
of
what
the
complaint
was,
because
we're
limiting
people
into
the
building
because
of
covet
19.
We
will
take
complaints
if
you
get
complaints
and
you
forward
them
to
us
on
behalf
of
your
constituents.
C
We
will
make
that
a
formal
complaint,
because
I
know
who
you
are
and
I
believe
what
you're
saying,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
people
just
real
quick,
for
example,
you'll
get
somebody
who's
a
disgruntled
ex-employee.
They
just
got
fired
for
stealing
money
and
they
make
a
complaint.
They
say
this
place
is
the
most
disgusting
place
there
ever
was
and
we
were
in
there
the
day
before
and
gave
him
a
90..
C
So
we
know
that
that's
not
an
accurate
reflection
of
what
that
facility
is,
but
we'll
call
that
facility
up
and
just
say,
hey,
you
know,
what's
going
on
here
and
they'll
say:
well,
we
just
let
somebody
go
because
they
were
stealing
money.
Okay,
we
see
what's
going
on
and
we
close
that
complaint
out.
But
yes,
a
more
formalized
complaint
is
going
to
be
necessary,
but
we
already
have
people
lining
up
telling
us
on
facebook.
C
C
No,
I
mean
we
get
a
positive
number,
it's
a
positive
and
then
the
other
ones
in
that
aren't
considered
so
51
000
people
are
tested
and
and
2
000
are
positive.
You
come
up
with
that
positivity
rate,
the
rest
are
considered
negative.
I
don't
know
how
you
tell
something's
a
false,
positive
or
a
false
negative
without
having
it
retested
somewhere
else
to
determine
if
there
was
an
issue
with
that,
that's
beyond
the
scope
of
our
work.
F
C
There
are
also
other
tests
out
there
for
covin
19
there
that
aren't
as
reliable
as
say
the
nasal
swab.
There's
some
rapid
testing
and
those
are
less
reliable.
They
could
give
you
a
positive
and
could
be
wrong.
That's
why
they're
less
reliable
and
aren't
supposed
to
necessarily
be
the
ones
you
know
it
might
give
you
a
good
idea.
H
C
H
K
It's
an
administrative,
it's
an
administrative
law.
So
what
happened?
Is
the
governor
went
under
the
department
of
public
health?
He
did
under
title
vii.
So
when
john
mentioned
the
addition
to
the
communicable
disease,
control
and
immunization.
So
if
you
remember
weeks
ago,
this
big
hoop
law
was
because
the
governor
was
going
to
add
all
these
emergency
rules.
It
went
to
jaicar
and
then
he
withdrew
them
and
then
he
came
out
and
said.
I
would
do
them
because
the
legislature
said
they
were
going
to
take
care
of
it.
They
did
it,
neither
you're
not
there.
K
K
B
K
Own,
the
business
you're,
the
one
that
you
have
to
deal
with
stuff
or
get
fined
you're
the
one
that
has
to
bear
that,
but
no
into
so.
If
you
own
a
business,
I
just
can't
come
in
and
be
like.
You
know,
you're
responsible
for
this,
I'm
finding
just
you
because
of
that,
though,
and
john
and
I
have
discussed
this
since
these
rules
came
out,
there's
all
this
reasonableness
clauses
that
are
in
their
reasonable
efforts.
K
So
if
you
want
a
business,
if
you've
properly
put
on
the
door
that
you
know
masks
are
required
when
you're
you
put
somebody
at
the
door
when
they
come
in
and
say
hey
by
the
way
you
need
to
have
a
mask
on
when
you're
in
here,
please
keep
it
on.
Please
maintain
social
distance.
You
may
be
at
your
checkout
like
if
you've
been
at
places.
You
know
they
put
the
little
footprints
of
where
you
have
to
stand.
K
K
Maybe
you
have
a
training
to
your
employees
that
if
you
see
somebody
like
you
know,
stand
not
social
distancing
when
they
could
not
wearing
their
masks,
you
would
mention
to
them
to
do
it,
but
other
than
that
we
can't
be
them
for
black
mediterranean
mass
police
that
you
know
the
department
of
health
can't
do
that.
Their
primary
job
is
contract
raising
you
know,
so
that's
where
those
rules
are
they're,
not
like
a
state
statute
but
they're
administrative
and
then
they
expire
180
days,
I
believe
or
there's
an
expiration
term.
H
K
There
is
no
real
lack
of
better
word
teeth
for
us
to
really
pursue
these
things.
There
is
a
monitoring,
and
my
legal
opinion
is
the
health
department,
one
of
their
main
things,
they're
more
into
compliance
and
licensing,
so
they're
not
really
into
enforcement.
Like
mr
wheeler
said
it,
there
currently
are
no
criminal
laws
on
the
books
that
would
allow
us
to
ticket
and
bring
people
to
court
like
for
speeding.
L
L
K
I
would
it's
probably
actually
going
to
be
our
decision,
because
if
he
writes
a
lot
of
times
when
the
healthcare-
and
I
just
want
to
say
this
prior
to
this,
working
with
the
health
department
really
has
been
good,
they
write
their
violations
and
the
time
so
I've
been
at
the
states
attorney's
office
with
a
slight
break.
Since
2004.,
I've
only
really
dealt
with
the
health
department
since
2013
2012.
K
I
would
say:
I've
only
had
one
violation:
that's
actually
had
to
go
to
court.
I
mean
carry
all
the
way
through
the
trial,
and
that
was
because
somebody
was
a
sovereign
citizen
and
didn't
believe
he
had
comply
with
any
law,
so
that
was
a
unique
situation.
Otherwise,
normally
before
we
even
get
to
court,
john
has
been
able
to
rectify
the
situation
with
the
people.
I
mean
he
works
with
him
to
try
to
get
it
done
and
that's
what
we
would
envision
doing
here.
K
So
if
we
would
somehow
make
it
to
the
fine
stage,
he
would
write
his
fine.
We
would
try
to
work
with
them.
John
would
try
to
work
with
him
to
try
to
get
that
rectified
before
we
would
come
to
court
it
would
we
would
look
at
the
seriousness
of
the
violation.
We
would
look
at
how
many
times
like
the
first
time
is
probably
not
going
to
be
as
great
as
if
it's
the
fifth
time
we're
here.
So
there's
some
different
factors
that
would
go
into
it
in
deciding
the
fine.
K
L
A
C
Within
the
administrative
rules,
I
know
that
the
the
main
complaints
that
the
health
department
will
get
and
investigate
is
not
wearing
the
masks
or
requiring
the
masks
and
in
the
gathering
numbers.
So
if
facilities,
for
example,
aren't
supposed
to
be
open
and
they've
got
people
on
the
inside
of
the
building,
that's
technically
going
to
be
a
gathering
issue
and
we
will
be
dealing
with
that
facility
to
try
to
rectify
it.
I
C
K
I
feel
like
in
some
way-
and
I've
talked
once
again-
we
talked
about
this
on
the
zoom
call,
I
believe,
when
we
all
were
on
with
mr
wheeler
and
the
sheriff
and
state's
attorney
and
ms
speckman
and
mr
bevis
were
on
it
and
and
we
had
a
discussion,
I
think
you
know
there's
all
these
things
that
have
put
have
been
put
into
place
and
there's
really
no
good
enforcement
techniques.
There's
really
nothing
to
do
it.
It's
really
going
to
be
reliant.
K
C
And
I
will
just
add
that
before
today,
today's
new
mitigation
rules
with
the
we're
not
supposed
to
be
open
to
indoor,
dining
and
bars
and
restaurants,
understand
that
any
of
the
complaints,
the
health
department
is
and
was
getting
and
we've
had
approximately
70-ish.
Since
this
all
started,
we
investigate.
We
talk
to
the
individuals
who
own
the
businesses,
and-
and
you
know
these
were
salons
and
barbers,
and,
and
you
know,
hardware
stores
and
restaurants
and
bars
and
and
factories
we
went
in
there.
C
We
talked
to
these
individuals,
I
would
have
to
say:
if
it's
not
a
hundred
percent,
it's
99
compliance.
They
did
what
they
needed
to
do
today.
The
line
in
the
sand
just
became
much
more
difficult
for
all
of
us
in
regards
to
the
types
of
complaints
that
we
may
get
and
have
to
investigate
because
of
the
closure
to
indoor
and
those
who
are
going
to
defy.
K
C
The
procedures
and
policies
of
of
every
agency
every
building,
all
those
people
responsible,
it's
kind
of
up
to
what
you
would
want
to
do,
there's
there's
not
necessarily
you
know
masking
hand
washing
social
distancing
are,
is
the
main
messaging
that
idph
is
pushing
out
that
the
health
department
is
pushing
out
how
you
clean
and
sanitize,
and
what
other
extra
precautions
you
may
take
are
are
going
to
be
incumbent
upon.
You
know
those
individuals,
those
administrators,
those
leaders,
those
mayors,
those
those
owners
of
those
businesses
as
to
what
they
want
to
do.
C
If
those
are
in
place.
As
nancy
said,
those
will
be
things
that
we'll
look
at
if
we're
investigating
a
complaint
that
you
are
or
aren't
complying
with.
You
know,
because
some
people
think
that
masks
are
the
law
and
masks
are
not
necessarily
the
law.
It's
when
you
can't
maintain
the
social
distancing.
So
when
they
see
somebody
in
a
store
not
wearing
a
mask,
they
make
a
complaint.
C
Well,
the
store
might
have
50
signs
up,
saying
we're
a
mask,
and
maybe
somebody
just
took
it
down
because
they
were
trying
to
catch
their
breath
or
maybe
just
because
they
felt
like
they
were
six
feet
away
from
somebody.
That,
in
and
of
itself,
is
not
going
to
be
a
violation
as
nancy
described
and
will
be
okay,
but
I
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
make
you
do
something.
But
I
see
anita's
up.
A
Well,
and
just
to
mention
you
know,
people
watch
this
video
and
they
say
well
they're
all
not
wearing
masks,
well
we're
six
feet
apart.
People
forget
that
that's
the
actual,
cdc
and
90
ph
recommendations.
We
wear
them
when
we're
I've
got
it
sitting
right
here,
for
when
I
am
not
six
feet
apart
anita.
Could
you
speak
to
that
because
we
do
have
hand
sanitizer
all
over
the
place.
M
Right-
and
I
did
want
to
mention
to
mr
hunter
and
the
rest
of
the
board-
what
we
did
here
at
the
building-
I
don't
know
if
you've
noticed
it,
but
right
inside
at
that
desk
is
a
big
jug
of
hand
sanitizer.
So,
as
people
walk
in
you're
free
to
now,
the
door
steward
is
not
making
people
use
the
hand
sanitizer,
but
it
is
available
right
inside
the
door
for
every
exit,
they're.
Obviously,
according
to
fire
code,
you
can
just
push
against
it.
You
don't
have
to
touch
anything
to
get
out
of
the
building.
M
You
just
push
against
the
door
and
it
will
open.
The
other
thing
is
we
put
hand
sanitizers
all
over
in
this
building,
they're
mounted
on
the
wall
on
every
floor
and
in
nearly
every
department,
so
we
have
hand
sanitizer
all
over
in
this
building.
The
difficulty
for
us
was
when
we
implemented
these
procedures
prior
to
everyone's
return
in
may
was
sanitizing
sheets
were
simply
not
available,
so
we
made
the
decision
to
use
hand
sanitizer
available.
M
Wherever
and
I'll
tell
you
what
I
do
when
I
walk
in
the
building
is
I
use
my
jacket
to
open
the
door?
I
do
not
touch
anything.
I
use
my
key
to
touch
the
elevator.
Now
there
is
a
certain
amount
of
what
each
of
us
as
an
individual
needs
to
be
thinking
at
all
times.
How
do
I
keep
myself
safe?
What
do
I
not
want
to
touch
you're
right
could
is?
Could
we
have
sanitizing
wipes
of
available?
G
Yeah,
all
I'm
saying
is
a
lot
of
tactile
activity.
When
I
come
in
the
court
street
entrance
I'll
make
you
know
I'll
get
my
temperature
checked,
then
I'll
make
a
quick
left.
You
know
to
the
elevator,
I
don't
necessarily
see
the
hand
sanitizer
station
that
you're
referring
to
so
yeah.
All
I'm
just
saying
that's
just
another
aspect
that
we
may
need
to
address.
That's
all.
N
A
All
year
try
the
video,
so
no
it's
it's
at
times,
we'll
be
getting
more
updates.
I
think
you
can
tell
that
information.
We
knew
something
was
coming
over
the
weekend.
We
were
talking
over
the
weekend.
We
didn't
know
what
then,
when
it
hit
on
monday,
we
were
expecting
a
press
release
and
information
by
noon.
A
It
didn't
show
up
until
after
I
left
so
I
came
back
in
the
office
and
sent
out
the
press
release
along
with
our
press
release
that
I
prepared,
after
talking
with
the
health
department
and
the
hospitals
and
obviously
law
enforcement
here
locally.
The
truly
disappointing
thing,
from
my
perspective,
beyond
being
you
know,
having
a
being
shackled
to
will
county
in
this
way
and
and
they're
friends
up
there,
I'm
not
trying
to
accuse
them
of
anything
they're
dealing
with
a
bad
situation.
A
Their
density
is
600
people
per
square
mile
and
ours
is
like
120.,
so
I
mean
they
got
it's
a
whole
different
ball
game.
You
know
as
far
as
infection
rates
and
proximity,
but
they
gave
businesses
a
half
a
day
to
respond
and
they
gave
him
a
half
a
day
really
a
day
and
a
half,
but
really
from
the
press
from
the
press
conference
at
noon.
Yesterday
till
I
mean
it's
just
that's
unacceptable.
A
We
got
to
be
better
than
that
as
a
state
government,
and
that's
just
I
would
say
that
whoever's
sitting
in
that
office
they're
dealing
with
a
lot.
But
it's
it
breaks
precedent.
It's
usually
fridays,
they
announce
monday
for
friday.
You
know
the
things
are
going
to
change
and
it's
just
everything
seemed
to
go
out
the
window,
and
when
I
I
asked
dr
zeke,
who
I
actually
respect-
and
I
know
she's
in
a
tough
spot.
A
You
know
why
the
11
o'clock
number-
and
I
said,
is
there
data
that
says
you
can
get
covered
more
readily
at
2am
as
opposed
to
8pm,
or
you
know,
4,
30
or
8
o'clock
in
the
morning,
and
she
said
no,
there
is
no
data
that
supports
the
time.
It
was
just
an
arbitrary
number
that
we
want
to
make
everybody
be
equal.
Well,
that's
not
that's
people's
lives,
you're
messing
with
an
arbitrary
number
at
the
beginning.
A
We
thought
the
machines
were
going
to
be
off
inside
the
business,
but
apparently
they
allow
you
to
go
in
and
not
eat
but
gamble
inside
of
the
restaurants,
because
people
get
a
cut
of
that
in
certain
places.
So-
and
you
know
what
the
restaurants
and
bars
are
are
thrilled,
because
that's
kind
of
the
thing
that's
keeping
them
afloat
is:
is
the
machine
revenue
to
be
honest?
That's
what's
making
ends
meet
it's
not
the
food
business.
I've
heard
30
percent
of
what
it
used
to
be.
A
So
I
just
want
to
mention
that
that
you
know
it's
it's
not
necessarily.
We
don't
like
what
happened,
but
the
way
it
was
done
was
not
professional.
In
my
opinion,
at
all,
it
left
a
lot
of
people
swinging
in
the
breeze.
I
mean
just
think.
If
you
had
a
prime
rib
special
today,
you
would
have
an
order
that
last
week-
and
you
know
it
all-
came
in
and
now
you
got
three
four
grand
worth
of
meat
sitting
there,
that
you
can't
even
sell,
because
you
don't
have
a
tent
outside
same
thing
with.
A
B
A
A
I
I
will
say
that
there
are
many.
I
guess
I
couldn't
tell
you
offhand
how
many
there
are,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
elected
department,
heads
that
do
have
intern
programs
correct
and
as
as,
as
far
as
since
I've
been
here,
the
the
our
county's
economy,
at
least
as
far
as
the
revenue
side
and
of
the
business
side
of
running
the
county
has
been
such
where
we
were
doing
layoffs.
We
couldn't
even
bring
interns
in
because
we
can't
lay
off
employees,
especially
union
employees
and
then
bring
in
interns.
A
So
where
we're
finally
getting
to
the
point
where
we
can
take
a
breath
above
water
and
so
get
to
your
point,
yeah
we're
gonna.
We
want
to
explore
those
opportunities,
but
we're
still
at
the
point
where
we
probably
couldn't
even
afford
interns.
You
know
in
the
county,
administration
departments,
yeah.
G
G
K
I
just
want
to
say
we
have
a
very
active
intern
program
in
our
office.
Mr
rowe
does
that
and
as
the
person
who
runs
the
internship
program
in
our
office,
the
only
thing
I
want
to
say
is,
as
we
would
develop
internship
programs.
We
have
to
be
careful
with
the
we
don't
really
in
our
office.
We
don't
pay
our
interns
mostly
they
do
it
for
class
credit
or
just
for
the
experience.
K
However,
because
of
that,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
work
that
they
do
does
not
displace
work,
that
employees
would
do
otherwise
now
we're
not
paying
them
fair
wage,
and
then
we
would
get
penalized.
It's
huge.
It's
a
lot
of
money.
There's
been
cases
where
there's
been
a
lot
of
money,
so
we
have
to
make
sure
that
their
time
here
is
purely
educational.
K
So
we
just
have
to
watch
that
if
something
would
be
developed,
it's
harder
actually
than
you
think.
You
know,
because
we've
been
short
staffed
and
it's
easy
to
want
to
just
take
an
intern
who's
there
for
a
criminal
justice
degree
and
throw
them
into
like
filing.
But
we
can't
do
that
because
we
can't
you
know,
do
that.
So
that's
something
that
I
think
as
colleges,
because
right
now,
I'm
having
a
hard
time
because
with
the
different
colleges
and
e-learning
and
like
last
spring,
my
internship
program
abruptly
stopped
because
of
coved.
K
M
Yes,
second
item
a
request
for
qualifications
for
payroll
and
benefits
administration
software
services.
We
did
talk
about
this
a
bit
about
a
year
ago,
we've
been
with
paylocity
for
both
payroll
and
human
resources
timekeeping
and
benefit
administration
software.
Since
november
we
went
live
november
of
2015.
M
at
the
time.
In
the
resolution
it
seemed
that
the
cost
was
to
reduce
the
cost
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
from
over
ninety
thousand.
To
about
seventy
thousand,
that
was
the
cost
estimate.
We
are
back
up
over.
Ninety
thousand,
we
saved
a
little
bit
we're
about
seven
perce.
We've
had
about
a
seven
percent
reduction
in
cost.
We
negotiated
a
year
ago
for
a
price
decrease
for
this
year,
but
we're
going
to
end
up
the
year.
M
There
are
things
it
does
not
do
well,
especially
out
at
the
jail
where
you
have
a
24
7
schedule
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
keep
time
well
when
you
go
from
11
pm
to
7
a.m.
Crossing
a
day
doesn't
work
well
when
they
change
schedules.
There's
a
lot
of
manual
work
to
get
the
new
schedules
in
there
and
and,
like
I
said,
every
pay
period.
We've
got
manual
entry
going
on
all
over
this
county
and
corrections.
M
M
Literally,
we
were
going
live
sunday
november
december.
1St
I
believe
was
december
1st.
The
site
was
supposed
to
go,
live
that
thursday
was
thanksgiving.
Friday
was
a
black
friday
and
a
holiday.
Here
literally,
I
was
here
all
day
sending
new
files
for
them
to
get
it
fixed
because
it
was
wrong
all
day
and
it
and
they
had
it
correct
at
501
that
friday
night
to
go
live
on
sunday
I
mean
it
was
so
stressful
and
like
every
deadline,
they
said
they
were
going
to
meet.
M
They
never
met
to
the
point
where
I
was
calling
them
and
they
just
started
ignoring
me
because
they
didn't.
They
didn't
want
to
hear
what
I
had
to
say.
So
that's
part
of
the
issue,
it's
I
guess
my
question
is
what
I'd
like
to
do.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
solution,
that's
better.
What
I
would
like
to
do
is
issue
a
request
for
qualifications,
where
we
can
have
a
small
subcommittee
from
the
board,
along
with
key
stakeholders
within
this
organization.
M
Those
people
out
there
that
are
doing
this
manual
work
that
they
can
be
part
of
the
solution
to
see
if
there's
a
solution
that
better
meets
our
needs.
I've
had
some
conversations
with
a
couple
of
vendors
who
would
be
interesting,
interested
in
submitting
a
proposal
and
doing
a
demo.
I've
not
moved
forward
with
that,
because
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it's
above
board
and
very
clear
and
we're
being
fair
in
issuing
a
request
for
qualification.
A
Just
to
be
clear,
it's
not
to
look
at
a
proposal.
Anything
like
that.
It's
to
look
at
the
qualifications,
much
like
the
the
space
needs
analysis
look
at.
Who
is
the
company
that
we
want
to
get
a
number
from
who
is
best
equipped
to
handle
our
unique
situations
which
are
based
on
a
variety
of
factors,
not
the
least
of
which
is
all
the
special
nuances
of
all
of
our
labor
contracts,
which
require
special
coding
for
special
things?
A
You
know
tobacco
incentives
and
you
know
I
mean
they're,
all
it's
all
different,
and
so
you
have
to
have
a
code
for
that.
It's
a
lot
of
manual
work
so,
but
the
thought
was
is
I
want
to
be
careful
and
specific.
This
is
not
a
subcommittee.
It's
a
little
small
work
group
of
three
people
that
we
want
to
have
that
are
board
members.
A
So
that
was
kind
of
where
I
was
at,
and
I
thought
maybe
I
was
thinking
about
mrs
haas,
maybe
and
carol
weber
and
mr
kenzinger.
If
they
would
so
choose
to
take
this.
You
know
I
would
imagine
it's
probably
like
one
or
two
hours
of
meetings
to
go
through
the
qualifications
and
then
make
a
recommendation
back
to
the
executive
committee
with
the
partners
that
you
have
department
heads.
I
can
see
probably
our
chief
of
corrections,
probably
one
of
them
or
his
designee,
whoever's
handling
time
out
there
at
the
jail.
A
M
A
A
A
M
A
L
M
If
you
run
a
customized
program,
you're,
not
gonna,
you're
gonna,
not
gonna,
get
the
tech
support.
You
need
number
one
number
two,
it's
gonna
be
outdated.
Obviously,
the
way
it
gets
put
in
these
large
companies.
They
update
their
systems
at
least
every
year,
and
when
we
go
on
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
talk
right
now
about
the
social
security
tax
holiday.
As
soon
as
we
get
finished.
With
this
I
mean.
A
Just
so
you
know
also,
it
has
to
connect
with
all
of
our
our
benefits
providers
as
well,
and
those
api
extensions
between
that
system
and,
let's
say
blue
cross
blue
shield
or
whoever
those
those
are
20,
30
grand
in
themselves
like
because
they're
special
programming
from
a
custom
into
something
else.
So
I've
had
experience
in
that
just
on
the
back
end
of
websites
and
it's
it's
not
cheap.
It's
not
a
bad
idea,
because
we
have.
A
F
I
A
M
So
four
days
away-
and
we
are
at
this
point
awaiting
for
implementation-
guidance
from
the
department
of
the
treasury,
which
is
essentially
it'll,
be
it'll,
come
from
the
irs.
The
key
thing
I
mean
it
sounds
great.
Here's
the
question
so
four
months,
the
the
executive
order
is
only
to
delay
it's
a
holiday,
it
delays
it.
M
So
what's
going
to
happen
in
january,
that's
the
implementation
guidance
we
need
from
the
irs,
where
all
of
a
sudden
employees
who
haven't
paid
social
security
tax,
their
portion
for
four
months
are
going
to
be
told
that
it
needs
to
be
done.
It
needs
to
be
paid
in
one
month,
two
months,
three
months,
four
months,
what
it
so,
even
if
it's
four
months
then
january
through
april,
they're
going
to
have
double
the
social
security
taken
out
of
their
check.
M
Whether
or
not
this
congress
has
the
wherewithal
to
make
that
happen
is
anybody's.
Guess
at
this
point.
So
at
this
point
it's
a
deferral.
It
is
not
a
holiday,
a
true
holiday,
so
that's
the
biggest
issue
is
what
would
it
be?
It's
also
an
opt-in
opt-out
and
when
I
todd
when
you
mentioned
something
about
big
big,
what
do
I
want
to
say,
custom
payroll
system
paylocity
already
has
it
programmed
to
opt
in
so
an
employee
would
go
in
and
opt
into
the
holiday,
so
that
would
automatically
stop
taking
out
now.
M
It
doesn't
work
right
now
and
our
employees
don't
see
it
right
now,
it's
non-functioning
until
we
get
this
guidance
telling
us
what
we
need
to
do
so,
if
you're
an
employee,
you
might
want
to
consider
while
it
might
be
helpful
in
the
short
run.
Remember
that
come
january
when
your
holiday
bills
are
due,
you
may
also
have
a
social
security
bill
due
yep.
A
A
F
A
A
What
I
don't
think
that's
accurate!
No,
it's
we
have
a
full
zoning
board
of
appeals.
Is
that
correct
michelle?
You
will,
when
mr
martin
gets
reappointed,
oh
by
the
by
the
full
board?
Okay,
I
see
what
yeah
procedurally
you're
correct.
We
still
have
an
opening
historic
preservation,
commission,
essex
township,
fire
protection,
district
and
ken
key
township
fire
protection.
District.
All
have
one
opening
under
new
business
holidays
to
be
observed
by
the
offices
of
the
of
kanke
county
for
2021.
A
I
A
P
L
P
Try
and
we'll
try
and
get
it
moved
through.
So
thank
you,
chairman
wheeler,
for
putting
us
on
executive.
I
have
with
us
of
somebody.
You
know
tim
nugent,
obviously
and
mark
pikas
who's,
the
president
of
inland
green
capital,
so
we
kind
of
have
a
maybe
like
a
two.
I'm
gonna
call
it
two-part
presentation.
I
kind
of
want
to
open
talk
a
little
bit
about
property
assessment
for
clean
energy,
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we're
hearing
in
the
industry.
P
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
a
relatively
simple
tool,
but
it's
a
tool
that
we
can
utilize
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
financing
option
for
development
of
retail
industrial,
sometimes
multi-family
or
hospitality.
It's
a
wholly
voluntary
program
and
it
functions
a
lot
like
a
special
service
area.
So
this
is
a
tax
that
is
placed
fully
voluntary.
P
I'm
going
to
say
that
a
lot
on
a
property
tax
owner's
bill
and
then
is
collected
by
the
county,
treasurer
and
collector
and
then
is
paid
to
essentially
a
lender
which
specializes
in
third-party
or
second-party
non-recourse
lending,
which
becomes
part
of
a
capital
stack
for
developing.
So
if
you're
an
existing
business
or
a
new
business
that
is
looking
to
build
with
energy
efficient
materials,
you
can
borrow
up
to
25
of
your
total
project
cost
on
a
much
longer
loan.
P
I
mean
we're
talking
about
up
to
25
years
and
it
really
makes
the
capital
stack
work
a
lot
better
for
businesses.
This
and
in
a
lot
of
cases
and
and
mark,
can
certainly
speak
to
these
there's
not
been
a
lot
of
cases
that
have
happened
in
illinois.
The
cost
savings
on
the
energy
efficiency
alone
are
typically
close
to
enough
to
pay
the
note.
So
we've
got
owners
of
buildings
that
are
able
to
utilize
energy
savings
to
help
pay
back
long-term
loans,
so
they
can
make
development
deals,
make
more
sense.
P
It's
it's
a
really
it's
a
complex
tool.
It's
it's
a
long
process
to
kind
of
get
underway,
but
kind
of
in
a
nutshell.
We're
talking
about
the
county
goes
out,
and
some
of
our
neighboring
counties
have
done
this.
Will
county
dupage
county
cane
county
to
find
a
vendor
to
manage
their
their
pace?
Broker
we
would
in
in
will
county's
instance.
They
went
through
an
rfp
process.
I
talked
to
chairman
wheeler
about
this.
They
saw
one
respondent.
P
The
one
respondent
they
saw
is
the
ieca,
and
that
is
the
the
firm
that
was
spurred
out
of
inland
green
capital.
That
mark
represents
they're.
So
in
talking
with
another
body
politic
of
the
state
of
illinois
and
the
illinois
finance
authority,
what
we
initially
thought
would
be
a
better
process
of
going
out
and
doing
an
rfp
or
an
rfq
to
select
a
vendor.
We're
now
finding
that
partnering
with
a
vendor
and
finding
stakeholders
in
a
deal
is
a
is
a
better
process
for
moving
forward.
P
So
today
we
have
mark
on
the
phone
and
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
program
and
again
we
can
dive
into
any
detail.
But
before
we
do
that,
I
want
to
bring
tim
up
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
what
our
partners
are
telling
us.
We've
got
developers
that
are
working
in
the
area
and
also
lending
institutions
that
land
on
either
the
pay
side
or
the
conventional
side
they've
been
giving
us
a
little
feedback
on
this
program
and
kind
of
how
they're
using
it
in
other
areas.
Q
Yeah,
as
far
as
the
economic
development,
economic
development
side,
I
mean
this
is
one
of
the
another
tool.
Basically,
in
our
toolbox,
you
know
you're
all
familiar
with
the
enterprise
zone
and
tiff,
and
the
new
market,
tax
credits,
historic
tax
credits
and
things
that
we
have
the
c-pace
funding
is
another
one
of
those
tools
and
people
that
are
out
there.
Investors
that
are
out
there
looking
to
come
to
kanke
county
and
specifically
the
city
of
kpp,
are
looking
for
all
the
you
know.
Q
Q
This
is
voluntary
and
it
can
make
a
project
that
might
not
be
financially
palatable
and
be
able
to
make
it
work
because
you
spread
out
some
payments
over
the
course
of
20
to
25
years,
and
it's
paid,
you
know
paid
through
the
tax
bill,
so
it
gives
people
some
upfront
capital
to
make
these
investments
with.
To
to
upgrade
their
their
energy
efficiency,
you
know
they
might
be
able
to
use
this
to
pay
for
windows
or
insulation
or
hvac
systems
led
lights
or
solar
panels,
things
that
they're
going
to
be
putting
in
anyway.
Q
Here
they
can
finance
these
things
up,
front
pay
for
them
up
front
and
then
the
hopefully
the
savings
that
is
generated
over
the
course
of
the
20-year
life
of
these
things
will
be
what's
used
to
pay
them
down
and
and
they're
guaranteed
by
the
taxes.
So
the
you
know,
the
finance
people
are
very
happy
to
see
that
it's,
it's
got
a
guaranteed
return,
a
guaranteed
income
coming
back
through
the
through
the
county
and
through
the
finance.
Now
it's
not
anything,
that's
going
to
cost
anybody
else,
any
money.
Q
This
is
specific
to
a
building
or
specific
to
a
development.
It's
not
specific
to
a
whole
community.
The
only
people
that
would
be
paying
these
taxes
are
the
ones
that
you
know
are
partaking
in
this
in
this
benefit,
and
I
suspect
that
you
know
when,
when
property
might
get
sold,
these
things
will
actually
show
up
on
a
title
policy.
Q
Where
there'd
be
no
mistake,
if
somebody
transferred
a
building-
and
there
was
these
special
tax
areas
or
special
taxes
on
this
building,
they
would
show
up
in
a
title
policy,
so
everybody
would
know
what
they're
buying
and
and
what's
required.
So
again,
it's
it's
another
tool
in
the
economic
development
toolbox.
We
do
have
a
few
individuals
that
are
looking
in
kankakee
that
have
used
these
tools
in
milwaukee
and
other
areas.
Q
A
So
so
you
know
what
I've
met
with
ben.
On
this
a
couple
of
times
we
got
on
the
phone
with
the
illinois
finance
authority.
Talk
with
them
want
to
make
sure.
I
understood
this.
What's
our
risk
and
there
is
no
risk
on
the
county
side
and
we
can
take
this
action
for
all
of
kankakee
county,
so
it
doesn't
matter
which
municipality
you're
in
it's
my
understanding
and
we'll
we'll
get
into
that
verification
in
a
moment.
But
if
we
take
this
action
allows
keiki
key
and
bradley
and
bourbon
a
moment
everybody
to
take
advantage
of
this.
A
They
don't
have
to
do
anything
on
the
local
level.
Now
we'll
verify
that
make
sure
I'm
accurate
in
that
statement.
But
that's
what
I
was
that's
what
I
took
from
it
the
first
time
and
the
the
the
it's
not
an
extra
burden.
If
you
will,
on
the
treasurer
it's
just
another
line
item
on
their
tax
bill.
So
once
it's
entered,
you
know
it's
not
going
to
be
anything
it
just
it's
plug
and
play
that
lender.
You
know
the
the
risk
they're
taking
the
risk
on
the
project
you
know.
A
So,
if,
obviously,
if
the
the
property,
you
know,
sits
there
dormant,
you
know
the
the
people
out
of
business.
The
building
is
shut
down
whatever
that's
not
our
risk.
You
know
so
that
I
just
want
to.
I
want
to
mention
that
that's
what
I
was
led
to
do
as
well
and-
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
all
out
there
on
the
table
and
that
the
lender
actually
addresses
that
with
this
board,
because
I'm
sure
that's
what
you're
asking
what's
our
what's
our
end
of
it?
What's?
O
Yeah,
I'm
a
little
bit
familiar
with
special
service
areas.
Did
some
investigation
in
that
and
one
of
the
negatives
which
we
need
to
think
about
as
a
board
is,
if
you
have
a
building
that
has
a
special
assessment
tax
sitting
alongside
of
another
building
that
doesn't
it's
hard
to
keep
selling
that
building
at
the
right
rate
and
maintaining
it
most
of
the
money
goes
out
in
the
front
and
then
the
maintenance
few
years
down
the
road
becomes
a
problem.
O
O
Most
building
codes
today
require
such
energy
efficiency
and
most
developers
are
already
looking
at
it.
I
think
it's
more
a
case
of
a
non-recourse
25
equity
investment,
which
makes
sense,
and
I
think
it's
a
developer
decision.
The
only
risk
that
we
have
is
the
long-term
viability
of
that
building
setting
alongside
of
another
building,
sure,
that's
the
only
risk.
A
P
Yeah,
so
mark
came
off
mute
there
for
a
second
I'm
assuming
he'll
come
off.
You
know
momentarily,
and
I
really
look
to
his
expertise
on
this,
but
I
guess
the
one
back
to
chairman
wheeler's
point
on
in
talking
with
with
ifa
what
what
we
don't
want
as
a
state
or
region
or
really
anything
is
a
bunch
of
the
individual
jurisdictions
managing
pace
programs
different
rooms.
R
Hi
good
morning
this
is
mark
pikes.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
wonderful,
yeah?
I
had.
I
saw
a
couple
questions,
one
about
a
property
kind
of
having
an
unfair
advantage.
I
agree
with
someone's
comment
that
that
property
would
probably
be
more
efficient
and
also
even
though
their
tax
bill
might
be
higher.
R
That
property
probably
would
look
a
little
bit
more
attractive,
but
there's
always
that
possibility
that
it
might
sit
there
if
no
one
maintains
it,
but
I
think
that's
that's
more
of
a
risk
of
the
property
owner
as
far
as
risk
to
the
county.
I
believe,
since
pace
is
going
to
be
paid
back
on
a
tax
bill.
R
I
think
your
taxes
are
due
in
june
and
september
if
someone
becomes
delinquent
and
they
go
through
the
tax
certificate,
sale
process
and
nothing
amounts
that
there's
no
investor
and
you're
right.
It
just
sits
there.
There
would
not
be
a
risk
to
the
county,
it
would
go
maybe
through
this
the
scavenger
sale
process,
and
that
is
a
risk
to
the
capital
provider.
That
is
their
downside.
Risk.
A
Thanks
for
clearing
that
up,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
was
accurate
and
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
committee.
So
it's.
What
we're
being
asked
here
is
is,
are
we
you
know,
okay,
to
move
forward
on
this,
to
make
this
tool
available
to
all
communities
in
kankakee
county?
I
strongly
believe
in
it.
It
really
helps
in
the
hospitality
area
when
they're
renovating
some
of
these
hotels
that
may
be
shut
down
right
now
or
other
things
you
know,
there's
other.
A
You
know
new
windows
on
a
building
that
is
being
bought
to
turn
into
housing.
You
know
I'm
just
throwing
out
there
for
instances
geothermal.
You
know
solar
panels
on
on
the
on
the
roof
of
particular
housing
developments.
I
don't
I
mean
you
could
as
well.
It
just
has
to
be
for-profit.
It
can't
be
government
entities
can't
take
advantage
of
that
because
we
don't
pay
tax.
A
P
We
are,
we
are
ineligible
to
utilize
the
funds,
but
there
are.
There
are
instances,
though,
where
local
business
owners
and
again
in
researching
this
just
for
the
edification
of
the
committee.
We
have
a
relationship
with
the
alliance
with
twain
financial,
which
is
a
spin-off
of
u.s
bank,
and
we
were
talking
to
them
about
pace
and
obviously,
we've
been
talking
developers
about
pace
we
got
initiated
with
the
illinois
finance
authority
and
I've
got
a
lot
of
like
you
know.
This
would
kind
of
work
and
there
are
local
manufacturers.
P
P
Hospitality
being
one
I
mean
65
percent
of
the
loan,
the
banks
are
conventional.
Lenders
are
comfortable
with
that's
a
big
delta
in
in
that
financing
stack.
So
you
know,
there's
there's
ways
to
utilize
this
I
do
have.
I
said
I
don't
know
if
kelly
wants
to
share
it.
If
she
wants
me
to
share
it,
I
sent
over
a
timeline.
I
believe
it
was
included
in
your
packet.
I
just
want
to
get
everybody
aware
kind
of
you
know
what
we're
talking
about
as
a
program.
That's
been
concerned.
P
Actually,
I
believe
we
stayed
chairman
wheeler,
and
I
started
this
conversation
back
in
around
november
of
last
year
and
really
trying
to
exercise
exactly
what
the
best
approach
would
be
for
us
and
how
the
tool
could
work.
But
what
we're
looking
at
now
is
to
initiate,
with
you
know,
ieca,
so
you
know
allowing
a
resolution
to
be
passed
to
the
county
board.
The
state's
attorney
has
the
contract
and
the
the
sample
resolution
for
review
to
initiate
with
iaca
once
ieca.
P
I'll
share
it
there
we
are
once
we
initiate
the
contract
execution.
We
then
have
to
go
through
the
completion
of
drafting
a
report.
So
you
know
ica.
Would
then,
with
the
assistance
of
stakeholders
in
the
county,
put
together
a
report
that
finalized
report
would
come
back
to
the
the
county
board
for
review
and
then
an
ordinance
codifying.
All
of
this
would
be
passed
so
there's
there's
still
a
couple
stages
that
need
to
be
taken.
P
P
There's
just
a
couple
steps
that
we
that
we
need
to
take
to
make
sure
that
we
get
all
of
our
program
report.
You
know
that
and
keep
in
mind
that
when
businesses
are
borrowing
for
this
they're,
getting
energy
assessments
done
and
they're
making
sure
that
they're
they're
doing
things
right
and
then
the
pace
administrator
is
responsible
for
ensuring
that
the
investments
made
do
qualify
to
certain
standards,
to
save
energy,
to
create
that
co2
reduction
or
reduction
in
overall
therms.
A
I
think
I'm
seeing
head
nods
here
so
I
think
we're
getting
close
to
having
everybody
having
their
questions
answered.
Sorry,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody's
clear.
The
one
thing
that
just
occurred
to
me
and
I've
got
to
ask
it
because
it's
through
the
county,
if
you
will-
and
the
tax
assessment
process,
is
all
of
the
work
done
on
these
properties,
subject
to
prevailing
wage
and
all
the
other
things
that
we're
subject
to.
R
Yeah,
I
think
that's
it's
it's
a
good
debate
to
have.
I
I
do
know
that
there
are
certain
bonding
authorities
like
the
ifa
that
would
probably
require
it,
and
some
counties
want
to
adopt
it
regardless
we're
indifferent
to
it.
I
think,
if
you
do
prevailing
wage,
you
might
risk
having
a
contractor,
maybe
a
local
contractor,
who
might
be
excluded
from
participating
in
projects,
maybe
the
smaller
guy,
but
other
than
that.
I
you
know,
we've
seen
that
work
across
illinois.
I
have
a
couple
of
projects
to
do
it.
R
G
You
know
candidly
gentlemen,
I
I
really
appreciate
the
the
thoroughness
of
your
explanation,
I'm
familiar
with
special
service
areas
and
tips
and
so
forth,
and
I,
like
the
comparison
this
is
and
and
to
to
plagiarize
the
mayor.
Nugent
is
another
tool
in
our
toolbox
of
incentives
for
developers
and
and
businesses,
and
I
I
think
you
guys
have
done
a
magnanimous
job
of
explaining
this.
Thank
you
any
other.
A
A
A
So
would
would
you
be
able
to
if
this
committee
chooses,
would
you
be
able
to
work
with
the
state's
attorney's
office
to
come
up
with
the
whereases
and
what
it
would
look
like
and
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff,
because
I
think
you
have
that
knowledge
better
than
we
do
so.
I
just
asked
you
know
dell
and
michelle
specifically
to
be
here
in
case
you
had
questions
about
martin's
role
and
what
has
gone
on
in
the
commission,
because
it's
it's
been
really
good
work.