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Finance Committee Meeting 8/22/2017 9:00 AM
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B
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A
Which
president,
we
don't
have
any
presentation
approval
of
minutes
of
july
26th
we'll
need
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
those
minutes,
mr
washington,
mr
serious
with
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
signify
aye.
All
those
opposed.
D
Good
morning,
everyone
we've
already
emailed
out
the
monthly
claims
report
for
the
month
of
july,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
what
the
trends
are
and
in
the
data
that
we
show
as
a
reminder,
I'm
sure
everyone
knows
that
the
claims
report
is
a
cash
basis,
so
it
does
fluctuate
month
to
month
and
frankly,
year
to
year,
depending
on
cash
flow
and
journal
entries
as
well.
D
We
I
checked
the
trial
balance
today
in
terms
of
cash,
so
you
know
it's
still
tight,
but
you
know
we're
we're
doing
all
right
as
it
as
it
relates
to
being
able
to
make
essential
payments
like
payroll
and
imrf
things
like
that,
let's
see
other
than
that,
nothing
too
out
of
the
ordinary.
With
this
month's
claims
or
july's
claims
we're
always
a
month
in
arrears,
there
are
a
few
other
things
along.
The
lines
of
claims
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up.
D
One
is
that
we've
we've
seen
a
lot
of
issues
in
terms
of
travel.
I
know
that
there
was
some
conversation
about
per
diems
and
different
things
like
that,
and
so
we
are
going
to
do
a
in-depth
review
of
all
the
travel
claims
that
have
been
submitted
so
far
and
the
claims
that
are
coming
to
try
and
make
sure
that
we
are
lined
up
with
what
the
standards
are.
D
As
far
as
the
irs
is
concerned,
as
far
as
the
administrative
code
of
illinois
and
such
so,
there
will
be
more
to
follow
on
that,
but
we
do
want
to
just
make
sure
that
people
are
in
line
with
what
things
should
be,
and
I
know
that
there's
going
to
be
further
guidance
as
far
as
that
goes
from
the
state's
attorney's
office
and
chairman
wheeler
and
so
forth.
I
have
a
town
hall
meeting
coming
up
in
aroma
park
on
september
19th
it'll
be
at
5
pm
at
the
fire
station
out
there
board.
D
D
A
A
A
E
E
E
E
economic
alliance.
We
have
one
part-time
employee
that
is
gone
so
that
brings
their
count
to
two.
Then
you
jump
down
to
corrections
and
the
clerical.
They
have
one
part-time
person,
they've
lost,
bringing
their
count
to
five
correctional
officers.
They
have
hired
five
full-time
employees
and
lost
one
full-time
employee.
So
their
count
now
is
at
115.
E
E
E
A
Treasurer's
office
I'll
need
a
motion
to
combine
and
approve
the
county
treasures
report
for
july
2017.
The
county
collector's
report
for
july
2017
and
the
monthly
resolutions
for
september
2017.,
emotion
by
mr
sirois
seconded
by
mr
washington
voice
vote.
All
in
favor
all
opposed
motion
carrier
nick.
F
Good
morning,
I
don't
have
a
lot
this
morning
to
talk
about.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
update
you.
Second
installment
of
taxes
are
due
september
1st,
which
is
a
week
from
friday,
so
everything's
moving
along
there.
We
had
our
second
distribution
of
taxes
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
and
we
have
a
meeting
scheduled
for
friday
with
andy
and
bruce
clark.
F
Someone
from
the
state's
attorney's
office,
with
our
trustee
joseph
meyer
associates
we're
meeting
with
their
president
whitney
strollmeyer,
which
dovetails
into
the
last
thing.
I
want
to
talk
about.
You're,
probably
tired
of
hearing
me
talk
about
sailing,
airs
salinaires,
for
those
who
don't
know
is
essentially
a
taxpayer
buys
tax
lien
from
a
delinquent
property
hold
on
to
it,
for
whatever
reason,
which
is
normally,
they
just
don't
want
it.
It
didn't
get
redeemed,
so
they
didn't
make
any
money
on
it.
F
F
It's
something
that
I'm
trying
to
get
a
hold
of
I've
been
working
hours
on
this
with
bruce
and
we're
bringing
andy
on
board
now
with
more
detailed
discussions
as
to
what
we
can
do,
but
we
have
an
immediate
problem
with
salinaires
and
that's
this
when
I
took
over,
I
think
there
were
202
cylinders
that
were
incomplete
or
hadn't
been
dealt
with.
Some
of
those
were
interest
bearing
sailing
airs,
which
means
it's
a
percent
per
month.
F
So
every
month
they
sat,
they
cost
the
county
more
money
which
took
us
about
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
past
what
we
had
in
our
sale
and
air
fund,
and
for
those
of
you
who
don't
understand
how
we
replenish
the
selling
air
fund.
There's
a
104
fee.
We
get
at
a
tax
sale
for
our
property.
60
of
that
fee
goes
to
the
sale
and
air
fund
at
the
end
of
the
year.
If
there's
more
than
a
hundred
thousand
in
that
fund,
that's
swept
to
the
general
fund,
so
we're
allowed
to
keep
counties
under
250.
F
000
are
allowed
to
keep
a
hundred
thousand.
We
had
roughly
119
available
and
we
were
in
the
180
range,
which
leaves
us
so
so
we
had
to
pay
these
tax
buyers
right.
Otherwise
this
interest
would
keep
accruing.
F
F
Perhaps
the
easiest
way
for
the
county
would
be
to
just
hold
it
back
from
the
final
distribution,
but
that's
for
this
board
decide
what
to
do,
but
it's
about
65
000
that
has
to
be
paid
back
by
law,
but
I
can
tell
you
this.
It
won't
happen
again.
We
selling
errors
are
growing,
but
we
are
staying
on
top
of
them.
F
F
Winnebago
county,
for
instance,
has
taken
a
really
strong
stance
with
the
tax
buyers
and,
of
course,
what
you
hear
them
from
the
tax
buyers
is
well,
we
won't
buy
your
taxes
right.
The
truth
of
the
matter
is,
tax
buyers
will
always
buy
taxes
if,
in
fact,
it's
a
good
deal,
and
that
doesn't
mean
a
good
deal
for
them
doesn't
have
to
mean
a
bad
deal
for
us
which
it
does
today
and
this-
and
this
really
is
something
we
have
to
get
on
board
with
the
state's
attorney.
F
F
F
The
way
that
I
can
immediately
change.
Some
of
that
behavior
is
to
not
sell
properties
that
would
generate
a
selling
air
municipal
properties,
for
instance,
we
sold
last
year.
I
don't
know
maybe
10
municipal
properties,
those
aren't
automatic
sale
in
there
and
and
that's
really
a
matter
of
going
through
the
auction
book
and
then
the
tax
sale
book
and
saying
no.
We
can't
sell
that
there's
a
property
right
now
in
mantino.
That's
a
two
three
hundred
feet.
F
Eric
knows
exactly
what
it
is
road
and
that
person
who
bought
it,
that's
what
they
do
all
around
the
state.
They
look
for
those
types
of
properties
and
then
they
say
mr
wheeler
can't
get
to
his
property
anymore.
F
Unless
he
pays
me
a
toll
to
use
my
road
right,
those
are
things
that
shouldn't
be
sold
and
that's
just
really
me
doing
in
my
office
doing
our
due
diligence
and
saying,
let's
hold
that
back,
that
that
can't
get
sold
because
that's
going
to
cost
us
beyond
that,
though,
it's
probably
and
andy-
and
I
will
report
back-
I
assume
on
this-
we
haven't
looked
at
the
contract
for
our
trustee
program
since
I
believe
2010
and
I
believe
in
the
ordinance
and
said
that
we
would
look
at
it
again
in
two
years,
which
I
don't
believe
we
have
just
so
you
know
the
auction
is
september.
F
I
don't
know
about
any
of
you,
but
my
electric
rates
water
rates
everything's
gone
up
since
2007.,
so
we
probably
see
less
than
a
hundred
dollars
on
a
property
sold
at
auction.
It's
really
the
idea
is
we
get
them
back
on
the
tax
rolls
obviously,
and
we
want
to
bring
more
tax
back,
but
there's
a
there's,
a
balance
that
we
need
to
strike.
D
F
Well,
it
has
to
be
changed
on
a
state.
You
know
there
what
you
find
is
when
you
talk
to
your
counterparts,
everybody
has
their
own
way
of
doing
things.
There
are
counties
that
say
well,
the
taxpayers
threaten
to
sue
us.
Fine,
we'll
we'll
take
our
chances
right,
because
is
it
worth
them
coming
back
to
court
again
for
55
dollars,
so
there's
people
that
take
all
kind
of
different
avenues
with
the
tax
buyers.
F
So
I
feel
like
it's
my
responsibility
to
keep
you
apprised
of
where
we're
at
on
it
to.
I
obviously
want
to
sell
our
taxes.
We
can
use
the
revenue
and
we
should
there's
a
1.47
million
dollars
in
open
tax
sale,
open
forfeitures
right
now,
which
means
todd,
didn't
pay
his
taxes.
Someone
bought
him,
they
got
a
sale
in
there.
F
Todd
still
owes
those
taxes
that
money's
been
sitting
out
there
since
2012,
some
of
it,
I'm
gonna
take
that
all
to
the
tax
sale
this
year,
so
our
tax
sale
should
probably
generate
more
money
than
it
has,
but
the
amount
of
work-
and
I
think
bruce
clark-
was
at
the
was
at
the
community
services
meeting
and
he
he
brought
this
and
this.
This
doesn't
explain
anything
from
this.
F
From
this
vantage
point
to
you,
except
that
this
is
one
property
which
probably
has
10
transactions,
seven
different
tax
buyers,
it's
a
convoluted
mess
and
it
takes
hours
and
hours,
and
so
we
lost
money
on
this
property,
but
that
doesn't
even
count
the
man
hours.
F
One
thing
I
did
forget
to
mention,
and
really
sticking
in
my
crow
right
now
is
excuse
me.
Sometimes,
what
happens
is
a
tax
buyer
will
buy
a
property
not
by
will
they
buy
the
taxes
it
won't
get
redeemed
for
one
reason
or
another:
they
have
to
take
deed
and
then
they
say
well,
we
just
won't
pay
taxes
right.
G
16.
gotcha,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
and
nick
you
mentioned
the
600
dollars
the
minimum
bid.
Do
you
have
a
recommendation
on
raising
that.
F
I
I
don't
have
a
recommendation
for
dollars,
but
we'll
have
to
take
a
look
at
the
state
law
and
see
what
it
allows
for.
I
certainly
think
if
the
law
allows
it
cpi
would
be
a
would
be
a
great
guide
based
on
what's
when,
when
we
and
and
I'm
sorry
to
go
on
this
tangent,
but
we
do
a
p
tab
right,
a
property
tax
appeal
board
decision.
F
F
It
would
seem
only
normal
that
whatever
the
inflation
rate
is
or
the
cpi
has
been
the
last
10
years,
we
our
fee
should
have
gone
up,
but
I
will
look
into
that
and
report
back
to
you
next
month
what
the
law
says
in
terms
of
raising
it
and
then
I'll
have
a
recommendation.
A
Thank
you
nikki.
Oh
I'm,
sorry
go
ahead.
F
Some
yep-
and
you
know
I
without
casting
aspersions
on
the
former
treasure.
I
know
they
were
light,
a
body
in
the
office,
but
this
is
one
of
those
situations
where
you
cut
it
off
your
nose.
Despite
your
face,
you
think
you're
saving
but
you're
actually
costing
yourself,
but
there
was
202
that
were
sitting
when
I
took
office
100,
probably
that
had
been
unopened
in
the
mail.
H
Well,
I
guess,
if
I
could,
mr
chairman,
the
the
how
to
to
to
pay
this
back
is
a
is
a
question
that
we're
gonna
have
to
decide
at
some
point
and
there's
there's
a
combination
of
ways
that
we
could
do
it.
We
could
do
it
like,
like
nick,
had
mentioned
out
of
the
final
disbursement
in
september,
we
could
do
part
of
it
out
of
you,
know
general
fund
this
year
and
part
of
it
out
of
the
disbursement.
H
It's
really
six
and
one-half
does
of
another,
because
it's
a
cash
flow
issue
is
that
it
will
impact
what
we
do
in
january
february
march,
so
revolving
loan
fund
money
that
we
have
to
absorb
back
into
the
general
fund.
My
intent
was
to
save
that
for
our
courthouse
improvements
for
the
per
the
attorney
general's
order
to
to
do
some
of
those
things,
but
it's
really
this
committee's
pleasure
how
we
want
to
recommend
to
the
full
board
on
how
we
do
it.
The
end
result
is
the
same.
F
Might
I
suggest
andy
that,
based
on
the
way
the
money's
been
brought
in
this
year,
I
should
end
the
year
with
about
32
to
36
000
of
interest
money
that
we
haven't
had
in
the
past.
That
can
be
used
to
offset
that
because
that's
general.
J
F
I
need
to
clean
my
books
with
the
count
with
the
county
for
the
selling
air
fees
right
before
the
tax
sale,
so
there
may
be
ways
to
work
that
so
that
it's
not
an
issue
november.
Second,
is
the
tax
cell
on
your
right.
F
A
H
Basically,
you've
seen
a
lot
of
the
reports.
You
know
it's
pretty
standard
fare
we'll
we'll
get
to
moody's
at
the
end,
we'll
get
to
moody's
at
the
end
we'll
get
to
moody's
at
the
end.
Won't.
H
H
H
Basically,
on
cash
flow,
you
can
see
a
lot
of
the
the
disbursements
have
been
made.
We
received
another
one
this
month,
so
our
cash
position
right
now
is
okay,
but
we
know
how
that
works
going
forward.
H
We
won't
get
another
one
until
the
end
of
november,
as
we
just
mentioned
so
right
now
we're
we're
running
on
receipts
that
come
in
and
we're
caught
up
a
lot
better
on
payables.
You
know
we
were
able
to
get
somewhat
caught
up
with
9-1-1,
which
they
were
happy
to
hear
about.
H
But
again,
that's
one
after
what
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
do
is
to
be
flush
with
those
folks
at
the
end
of
our
last
disbursement,
because
we
know
that
as
cash
gets
tight,
just
like
with
all
of
our
vendors
things,
get
stretched
out
january
to
june,
considering
next
year,
we'll
get
a
million
less
dollars
on
our
tax
anticipation
warrants.
We
don't
see
our
payables
changing
much
in
the
near
future
until
we're
credit
worthy
outside
of
the
local
community.
So
that's
something
we're
looking
at.
H
We
should
all
keep
in
mind
that
2020
is
is
the
year
that
we
need
to
be
solving
on
our
own,
so
we're
able
to
access
outside
capital
outside
of
this
area,
so
we're
moving
in
that
direction.
We
have
a
plan
to
get
there
and
all
things
are,
according
to
moody's
report
which
we'll
talk
about
later
things
are
looking
much
better
in
that
respect,
but
cash
flow
is
still
an
issue
and
it
will
manifest
basically
after
september
again.
So
if
there's
any
questions
about
that,
we
can
go
forward.
H
Looking
at
our
you
know,
we
got
replacement
tax.
You
can
look
through
those
forms,
the
main
ones
to
look
at
that
we
we
do
on
a
monthly
basis.
Are
you
know?
Income
tax
is
still
somewhat
of
an
issue,
but
use
taxes
is
up.
The
bed.
Rental
was
722
000
last
month,
so
that's
that
trend
is
still
significantly
higher
than
has
in
the
past.
H
H
H
H
H
H
So
we'll
get
back
to
you
once
we
have
a
dollar
amount
on
what
that
means
on
a
yearly
basis,
so
it
came
up
in
our
moody's
call,
and
there
is
some
not
there.
There's
a
non-specificity
from
different
groups
like
the
trade
associations
for
the
finance
managers
of
counties
and
things
like
that.
There's
really
no
information
out
there
on
what
that
means.
H
Beyond
what
the
the
the
the
statute
is
written
or
the
the
budget
is
written
as
saying
so
we'll
get
back
to
you
on
that.
But
it's
it's
not.
It
doesn't
look
to
be
massive,
but
anything
hurts,
as
the
case
may
be.
So
I
guess
on
the
standards
and
then
there's
the
hra
in
front
of
you
as
I
look
at
this
and
I'll
be
talking
to
mr
lynch
about
this.
H
We're
we're
running
it
a
little
bit
different
on
the
hra
fund,
because
a
lot
of
people
took
the
the
hmo
option
that
we
provided.
It's
a
lot.
It's
a
better
cost
model
for
our
employees.
So
a
lot
of
people
migrated
into
the
hmo,
which
means
you're,
not
collecting
those
hra
dollars
and
building
up
the
what
we
pay
our
our
claims.
Out
of
so
which
is
good,
it's
good
for
the
employees
and
good
for
the
county,
so
it
just
shows
up
as
a
negative
here,
but
it's
actually
a
positive.
H
H
That
call
was,
I
believe
it
was
friday
of
last
week.
H
It
was
an
interesting
process
I
hadn't
been
through
that
before
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
sat
in
on
those
those
calls.
But
it's
it's
basically
an
interview.
We
give
them
a
lot.
H
They
look
at
the
numbers,
they
look
at
the
trend,
but
they
want
to
know
the
plan
and
so
just
to
kind
of
summarize
a
few
things
it's
on
page
two.
Is
there
numbered
in
here
page
two
on
the
the
left
hand,
corner
factors
that
could
lead
to
a
downgrade.
H
I
can't
stress
this
enough,
because
this
is
important.
Things
are
much
better
and
I'll
get
into
that,
but
there's
still
the
inability
of
the
county
to
access
the
market
to
place
its
tax
anticipation
warrants.
That's
a
big
deal.
They
question
moody's
questions
as
two
million
gonna
be
enough
next
year,
and
so
do
we.
H
You
know
it
causes
us
issues
and
it
causes
our
vendors
issues
because
we
still
have
to
operate
so
they
also,
you
know,
increase
strain
on
the
county
liquidity
to
further
growth
in
the
county's
deficit
reserve
position,
which
basically
saying
you
know
you
know,
what's
going
to
impact
your
liquid
revenue,
the
money
you
have
to
pay
bills,
things
like
paying
for
you
know
the
out
of
the
last,
the
last
disbursement
for
sins
of
the
past.
H
You
know
that
that
that
that's
cash
right
out
of
our
pocket
or
significant
increases
in
the
county's
debt
or
pension
burden.
Right
now
we
have
predictive
models
going
out
through
2020
that
are
accounting
for
our
known
increases.
What
are
our
unknown
increases
right
now?
What
increased
costs
are
going
to
impact
our
ability
to
function
on
a
cash
liquid
basis?
So
those
are
things
that
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
with,
with
steve
and
and
and
just
thinking
about
it
in
general.
H
You
know,
because
that's
that's
the
plan
and
they
were
happy
with
our
plan,
but
they
want
to
see
how
it
comes
together.
A
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with.
There
was
some
concern
on
you
know:
cost
associated
with
certain
things
over
time.
Things
like
that.
How
is
that
going
to
be
controlled
and
maintained
going
forward,
so
we're
still
providing
specifically
in
the
case
of
corrections,
the
type
of
secure
environment
and
safe
environment
to
be
able
to
handle
what
we're
doing
out
there.
H
So
there
is
not
a
there's,
no
disconnect
with
their
mind
on
you
know,
trying
to
drive
the
most
revenue
out
of
there
as
possible.
They
express
concern
about
being
able
to
properly
staff
public
safety
on
the
roads
as
well.
You
know,
so
it's
not
we're
not
operating
in
a
vacuum
of
only
dollars
and
cents.
Moody's
does
look
at
the
operations
of
the
county
as
well
in
the
in
the
citizens
so
going
through
this,
though
I
you
know,
please
let
me
know
if
there's
ever
any
questions.
H
This
is
the
first
year
that
I
can
remember
that
we
haven't
been
in
a
downgraded
position
since
our
high
water
mark,
so
we're
we're
stable,
which
is
to
me,
is
a
major
win
for
this
county.
At
this
point,
we've
the
free
fall,
is
over
as
they're
seeing
and
they
like
the
plan
they
like,
where
we're
going
they're
not
going
to
upgrade
us
on
our
credit
rating.
If
you
will
our
bond
rating,
because
we're
still
in
a
tenuous
position
on
our
debt,
we
still
have
issues
with
being
able
to
to.
H
You
know
our
payables
and
all
these
other
things
that
we
talked
about
in
the
beginning,
but
they
see
things
are
getting
better
and
substantially
better.
One
of
the
reasons
I
was
told
that
we
were
still
at
the
same.
You
know.
Ba3
rating
was
the
fact
that
they
were.
They
would
like
to
know
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
access
outside
capital
next
year
they
they're
questioning
two
million,
and
then
they
also
want
to
see
how
the
the
revenue
to
expense
plays
out
in
our
new
business
models.
H
So
those
are
things
that
we're
all
concerned
with
and
are
watching
very
closely,
including
those
in
the
sheriff's
department.
So
I
know
that
that's
something
that's
maintained
and
watched
on
a
daily
basis.
So,
but
you
know
it's
it's
all
there
in
in
writing
our
strengths.
You
know,
obviously
our
sizable
tax
base
and
our
demonstrated
willingness
to
adjust
operations
to
improve
the
the
county's
financial
position
when
they
say
management.
H
That's
all
of
you
and
the
department
head
so
they're,
giving
us
the
not
on
the
way
that
we're
doing
things,
and
then
we
have
low
direct
debt
burden
with
rapid
principal
amorte
amortization.
Easy
word
to
say:
basically,
you
know
we're
not
carrying
a
lot
of
debt
beyond
our
buildings
that
we
have
out
there.
So
we
have
challenges
our
week
week,
financial
position
and
limited
liquidity.
We've
talked
about
our
limited
revenue,
raising
ability
and
expenditure
flexibility.
H
It's
you
know.
We
have
direct
cost
tied
with
our
revenue
and
we
all
know
that
and
we're
running
a
lot
more
predictive
model
than
we
were
in
the
past.
But
it's
still
it's
still
volatile
and
you
know
there's
not
a
lot
of
revenue
sources
coming
in.
You
know.
H
They
did
note
that
the
public
said
no
to
another
safety
tax
because
they
didn't
know
that
when
we
first
got
on
the
call,
they
didn't
know
that
we
asked
the
public
and
asked
the
public
once
again
and
they
said
no
and
I'm
not
being
punitive,
but
that
does
have
an
impact
on
our
ability
to
operate.
So
in
some
cases
you
get
what
you
pay
for
and
and
those
types
of
things
you
know
where
we're
talking
about
ramps
into
the
courthouse
or
increased
patrols
in
high
crime
areas,
there's
only
so
much.
H
You
can
do
with
those
revenue
streams
that
we
have
right
now.
So,
as
we
all
know
so,
I
want
to
you
know
the
factors
that
could
lead
to
an
upgrade.
That's
for
this
committee,
sustained
improvement
to
financial
operations
resulting
in
strength
and
reserves
and
liquidity.
Everything
we
do
has
an
impact
here.
So
I
wanted
to
stress
that,
while
I
don't
see
any
major
increases
in
revenue
as
far
as
things
go,
there
are
possibilities
with
our
you
know:
employment
base.
You
know
new
economic
development
prospects
on
the
horizon.
H
H
Yeah
that
was
under
the
sheriff's
part
of
it.
Oh.
H
And
we'll
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
minute.
H
That's
all
right
all
right!
Well,
I
will
I'll
rejoin
the
peanut
gallery
unless
there's
no
questions
thanks.
Thank.
I
First
of
all,
thanks
andy-
and
I
mean
this
is
as
an
employee.
I
want
to
call
attention
to
you
why
you
grabbed
a
donut
or
anything,
but
in
this
committee
you
guys
are
doing
a
lot
of
hard
work
and-
and
it
feels
different-
I
mean
when
you
talk
to
the
employees
here.
It
just
feels
different,
the
ship's
kind
of
turning
going
the
other
direction.
So
thanks
for
your
hard
work,
because
it
makes
this
place
a
better
place,
I
can
tell
you
as
an
employee,
quick
update.
I
Currently
we
have
272
out
of
county
inmates,
150
marshals
and,
and
that
number
has
been
increasing.
It
appears
that
the
federal
government
or
the
federal
law
enforcement
agencies
are
arresting
people
again
and
we're
getting
some
of
those.
We
have
104
ice
currently
in
18
cook,
county
local
count
is
257
and
it's
going
up,
and
I
don't
understand
it.
It's
it's
not
an
anomaly
this
time
of
year.
It
always
seems
to
go
up
a
little
bit
when
the
kids
go
back
to
school.
I
I
Six
of
them
are
going
to
pti.
In
september
the
two
we
got
received,
two
of
the
new
vans
and
they're
in
service
and
working
great
and
they're,
not
breaking
down
on
the
highway
with
our
inmates
or
detainees
in
it.
So
that's
a
real
good
thing.
When
you
have
a
business
model,
it's
never
good
to
have
those
kind
of
things
go
on,
so
that's
very
appreciated
and
two
two
new
ones
are
coming
from
court
street
ford,
they're
ordered.
C
I
H
I
H
We
I
got
the
lease
in
it
was
emailed
to
me
and
it's
it's
not
that
hot.
K
H
Let
me
try
this
testing
all
right,
so
I
got
the
lease
in
via
email
and
sent
it
up
to
the
state's
attorney's
office,
and
I
got
the
message
back
saying:
hey
wait
a
minute:
we
don't
have
a
resolution
for
this,
we're
the
finance
committee
and
the
board
ever
approve
this,
and
so
I
started
searching
you
know
through
all
the
the
databases
that
we
have
mainly
on
the
website.
H
It
has
all
of
our
resolutions
and
I
I
couldn't
find
it
either
so,
but
what
I
put
in
your
packet
was
on
the
fy
17
general
fund
budget
capital
development
worksheet,
which
is
on
the
back
of
the
agenda.
We
put
35
000
in
the
budget,
which
would
equal
a
q4
lease
payment.
Roughly
you
know
at
the
time
of
what
we
thought
it
might
be,
so
we
knew
about
it,
but
we
can't
find
where
we
ever
approved
it.
H
By
default,
but
there
is
no
specific
action.
We
still
have
to
have
the
resolution
to
spend
the
money,
and
so
I
was
this
is
more
procedural,
but
I
just
want
to
draw
everybody's
attention
to
it
that
you
know
this.
We
have
to
kind
of
tie
up
that
loop,
just
to
mention
that
sao
space
lease
is
no
longer
on.
H
You
know,
capital
development,
so
we
will
have
the
money
in
there
to
cover
off
the
extra
5
000
and-
and
we
did
pay
a
little
bit
of
the
under
the
space
lease
some
of
the
the
move
expenses
under
there.
So
I
don't
have
the
total,
but
maybe
20
of
it
roughly
was
gone,
so
we
were
charging
it
to
that
light
item
because
we
don't
have
the
lease.
So
I
guess
you
know
that
you
look
at
the
total
lease
amount
and
the
the
amount
financed
over.
You
know.
H
H
A
Well,
can
we
can?
We
can
take
a
motion
and
then
have
discussion
motion
by
prove
the
lease
of
11
vehicles
that
the
way
you're
looking
at
it.
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
remember
talking
about
mentioning
that
they
were
going
to
purchase
squad
cars
in
q4
at
one
of
our
discussions
last
year.
Maybe
it
was
criminal
justice
or
something
that
they
were
going
to
get
squad
cars.
My
question
is,
I
guess,
maybe
to
w
k.
Are
you
gonna
have
enough
cars
for
your
these
11
squads?
I
I
Mile
cars
and
roll
them
out
and
then
you
swap
them
out
and
swap
the
gear
out
of
them
and
stuff.
So
I
don't
have
the
number
but
we'll.
I
know.
J
I
Car
to
the
no
that's
the
the
beauty
of
having
continuity
between
vehicles
and
in
the
past,
when
you
change
models,
the
cage
right,
the
brackets,
that
stuff
adds
up
a
bunch
and
actually
we're
to
the
point
now
where
the
stuff
in
the
car
cost
more
than
the
car
right.
So
we're
cognizant
of
that.
No
there's!
No
there's
no
problem
with
those
okay.
J
H
We
put
it
in
the
budget
and
35,
obviously,
is
a
wash
you
know
for
next
year,
but
it's
got
to
come
from
somewhere.
You
know,
knowing
that
our
revenues
are
not
necessarily
increasing
over
what
we
predicted.
So
just
as
long
as
we
know
that
we
commit
the
money
here,
it's
going
to
have
to
come
from
somewhere.
H
You
know
it's
just
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
new
money.
If
you
will
so
we
have
to
kind
of
just
back
your
head.
You
know,
keep
that
in
mind
what
you
brought
up,
something
that
made
me
think
through
attrition.
You
know
like
with
you
know,
swiffer
leaving
and
retirements
how
many
people
are
down
in.
I
And
we
didn't
replace
al
and
we've
had
a
couple
more
like
we
had
two
retirees,
I
think
right,
carnahan
and
there's
one
more.
It's
four
or
five
I'll
get
the
number
I'll
get
the
exact
number.
I
don't
want
to
give
you
a
misinformation,
but
it's
it's
at
least
four
or
five
that.
J
I
And
ryan's
one,
that's
five,
then
yeah.
B
H
I
Unmarked
car,
so
it's
not
like
that
is
counted
towards
a
patrol
fleet.
I
see
so
just
depending
on
the
position.
Corporal
ryan
had
a
marked
squad.
So
that's
that's
a
watch,
so
it.
H
H
G
I
was
unclear:
where
did
the
number
11
vehicles
come
from?
I.
I
I
You
start
looking
and
the
good
thing
with
these
tahoes
and
the
reason
we
went
to
them
is
transmissions
motors
those
kind
of
things
get
real
costly
and
that
one
year
we
were
over
300,
some
thousand
dollars
in
maintenance
fees,
keeping
a
fleet
together,
you're
putting
money
in
a
car
that
isn't
worth
anything.
So
once
we
get
up
to
full
staff
or
full
fleet
you,
because
the
the
miles
we
put
on
the
car
dictates
about
eight
to
ten
cars
a
year.
So
and
the
other
thing
folks
need
to
understand.
I
You
know
I.
I
drive
trucks
that
have
a
hundred
and
thirty
hundred
and
forty
thousand
my
personal
vehicles
and
say
well,
that's
fine,
but
that
driver's
side
door
isn't
open
a
hundred
times
a
day
and
shut.
You
know
they're,
not
they
don't
go
from
cold
to
110
mile
an
hour
to
cold
to
running
for
an
hour
to
keep
the
stuff
on
there
because
you're
handling
something
else.
So
the
wear
and
tear
and
squads
are
a
complete
different
thing
that
what
we
think
of
as
our
personal
vehicles.
So
things
break
a
lot
easier.
I
So
that
number
came
out
with
just
some
projections
on
where
we're
going
to
be
at
mileage-wise
and
when
you
start
wearing
and
now
the
ones
are
coming
just
about
they're.
You
know
they
get
over
100
000.
We
lose
the
warranty
on
the
transmission
and
the
motor.
You
got
a
2011
you're,
putting
a
motor
in
that
car.
Isn't
a
thousand
dollar
truck
you?
You
know
when
it
goes
off
to
the
auction,
so
it's
not
very
cost
efficient.
J
I
Let
me
let
me
phone.
J
A
friend
I
was
gonna
say
they
might
phone
you.
If
they're
watching
live
yeah,
he
knows
who
he
is,
but
it
so
we're
three
or
four
three,
three
years
out
of
purchasing
vehicles
for
the
sheriff's
department.
I
think
it's
time
we
start
to
renew
their
equipment,
and
I
understand
when
you
get
to
the
hundred
thousand
mile
mark
on
commercial
vehicles
and
that's
what
basically
you're
running
a
commercial
vehicle
you're
going
to
lose
that
warranty
for
your
transmission
and
those
are
your
high
dollar
items.
J
I
Yeah,
if
you
the
process,
is-
and
the
previous
sheriff
to
makowski-
talked
about
this
literally
if
we
could
get
on
a
program
and
maintain
it.
But
it's
I've
been
here
20
years.
It
never
happens
because
budgets
go
to
heck
and
when
you,
when
we
buy
tahoes
at
state
bid,
they
are
significantly
cheaper
than
what
the
public
pays
for
them.
So
you
buy
one
at
24,
25
whatever.
It
is
right
now
where,
if
one
of
us
would
go
to
buy
it,
retail
would
be
a
35
or
40
000
vehicle.
I
If
you
keep
it
under
75
000
miles
and
you
roll
it
back
into
the
fleet,
you
get
a
significant
payback.
You
get
over
half
the
value
of
more
than
half
the
value
of
what
you
spent
on
it.
But
the
problem
is
once
you
get
over
that
100k,
where
the
and
the
motors
and
even
the
cab
companies
go.
Oh
no
and
it
turns
into
a
thousand-
or
you
know,
1500
vehicle
where,
before
those
lower
mile
vehicles,
they're
still
bringing
really
decent
money.
I
If
you
look
at
kelly
blue
book
or
stuff,
and
you
and
once
you
get
over
100
000,
though
the
value
just
drops
out
of
them.
So
if
we
ever
get
to
that
point
and
we
can
get
on
a
rotation
and
stay
consistently,
we
can
drop
the
cost
of
purchasing
vehicles
significantly,
because
the
money
we
get
back
can
be
poured
into
new
vehicles.
Gotcha.
A
G
G
So
that's
that's
the
question:
where
do
we
get
the
money
the
need
is
there?
We
know
that
it's
it's.
We
need
to
set
up
twelve
payments
of
forty
thousand
dollars
and
where
do
we
get
the
money?
That's
the
question.
Thank
you.
G
And
you
buy
them
at
the
end
for
a
dollar
and
whatever
you
can
turn
it
back
into
is
what
it
is,
but
they're
four-year
leases.
So
you
know
that
we
went
to
a
lease
program
years
ago
because
buying
them
it
just
doesn't
work.
You
just
can't
afford
to
go
out
there
and
lay
that
cash
down
the
lease
lease,
even
though
we
paid
four
percent
is,
is
the
only
way
we
can
find
it
finance
it.
H
Just
my
only
thought
on
that
is,
it
becomes
a
budget
issue
if,
if
you
know
when
once
we
start
figuring
out
next
year's
budget,
that's
not
necessarily
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
it's
being
able
to
put
that
allocation,
because
it's
in
this
year's
budget,
so
we
really
we
could
approve.
You
know
that
we're
going
to
spend
it
and
that
money's
allocated
this
year,
but
we
have
to
figure
out
when
we're
doing
next
year's
budgets
where's
the
money
going
to
come
from.
H
So
I
don't
know
if
we're
prepared
to
answer
that
question
right
now.
I
guess
my
other
question
is:
is
I'm
hearing
that
maybe
these
might
be
coming
in
like
any
day
now.
L
H
J
J
E
J
J
A
G
I
I
I
think,
from
a
cash
flow
point
of
view,
if
we
take
delivery
and
and
move.
B
A
G
I
A
Well,
we're
finding
that
out
on
the
maintenance
of
the
building,
we
push
stuff
back
and
things
keep
breaking
and
it's
just
a
mess.
Okay,
so
are
we
ready
for
the
question.
I
Machines
is
mine,
I
don't
know
why,
but
actually
we're
the
county
is
it's
going
through
the
lease
of
the
county.
We
have
a
copy
machine
at
the
old
jail
and
a
new
jail.
They
are
the
oldest
in
the
county.
They
don't
scan,
they
don't
email,
they
don't
network
and,
as
you
know,
mr
lee
could
speak
to
what
what
printer
cartridges
cost.
You
know
we
cut
costs
significantly
when
we
can
send
it
to
a
a
general
printer
that
uses.
I
I
I
G
H
Yes,
this,
I
just,
I
guess,
a
question
or
maybe
a
statement.
This
is
through
the
sheriff's
budget,
so
this
is
more
advisory
than
anything
else.
I
I
H
A
H
We'll
figure
it
out,
yeah
yeah,
we'll
figure
it
out.
So
it's
it's
not
a
huge
sticking
point,
but
you
know
it's
it's.
If
ever
every
other
department
has
to
pay
for
their
own
copier
out
of
their
budget.
You
see
my
point
that
we
need
to
be
consistent
with
the
other
one.
So
we'll
figure
it
out.
H
I
do
have
a
point.
I
guess
some
clarification,
the
the
motion
on
the
on
the
lease
of
11
vehicles.
It
would
also
include
the
authorization
for
me
to
sign
the
lease
agreement.
L
A
A
All
right,
so
what
do
we
need?
A
motion
to
have
the
copiers
go
to
central
services.
We
should
approve
to
motion
a
second
to
approve.
I
H
Every
it's
it's
it
moves
on.
It's
something
that
I
would
ask
in
our
old
new
business
section.
Are
you
limited
to
purchasing
vehicles
for
only
the
sheriff's
department,
or
could
you
purchase
a
vehicle
or
lease
a
vehicle
included
in
this
lease
for
another
department
here,
because
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
a
planting
vehicle
because.
F
C
H
We're
thinking
of
potentially
doing
that
because
they've
got
to
go
in
rural
areas
where
there's
they
call,
I
have
to
call
snowplow
to
get
places
and
then
they've
got
to
go
up
in
the
field
to
look
at
probably.
I
Deter
to
miss
or
refer
to
mr
rowe,
but
if
they
are
available
for
state
bid,
if
they
are
legally
authorized
to
do
that,
which
I
assume
they
are,
but
I
don't
know
I'm
not
a
lawyer.
I
don't
play
one
on
tv,
I
would
say
yeah
that
could
be
included
in
that
package.
Okay,.
A
Well,
didn't
didn't
we
at
one
time
through
the
sheriff's
lease
corner
ended
up
with
cars,
wouldn't
that.
I
K
I
B
A
N
I
I
A
We
we
did
the
sailing
air
didn't
we.
B
A
E
A
H
It
the
planning
planning
in
the
pca
meeting
dell
halbert
dell
held
up
huge
dell
halbert
he's
our
new
employee.
H
H
Gary,
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
let
me
know,
but
basically
pza
said
you
know,
send
it
to
finance.
We
think
that
we
need
to
get
a
vehicle
and,
as
I
mentioned,
we
should
probably
look
into
four
wheel
because
at
times
some
of
these
rural
areas,
they
have
to
call
highway
to
go
plow.
So
they
can
go,
look
at
a
property,
so
it
really
involves
you
know
involving
two
different
departments
and
two
different
cost
centers
for
some
that
might
be
able
to
be
solved
with
a
four-wheel
vehicle
so
well.
A
B
N
Right
back
in
2004
the
sheriff
donated
to
our
department
for
chevy
impalas,
they
were
new
cars
and
they're
13
years
old.
Last
year,
the
maintenance
cost
kind
of
skyrocketed
for
the
department.
N
N
N
So
just
we
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
that
fact.
So
we
didn't
walk
in
here
in
three
years
from
now
and
say:
hey
we've
got
four
cars
that
we
gotta
have
four
brand
new
cars
or
four
better
cars
than
what
we
have
so
that's
kind
of.
Why
we
came
up
today
was
to
tell
you
kind
of
give
you
a
background
on
what
we
have
and
how
we
got
them,
and
these
cars
do
go
on
all
the
roads.
We
go
into
farm
fields
for
pivots
for
inspections,
irrigation
pivots.
N
We
go
to
a
lot
of
places
that
are
off-road
and
we
have
to
take
these
cars
clearance
is
a
problem
for
impalas.
You
know
they're
low
to
the
ground,
so
you
need
vehicles
if
you
could
get
vehicles
with
good
clearance
for
some
of
those
inspections
we
have
to
do.
N
I
guess
that's
all
I
have
unless
you
have
questions
on
the
car.
Okay,.
H
Bring
up
a
good
point,
one
of
one
of
the
there
used
to
be
a
lot
larger
staff
in
planning
and
so
you'd
have
people
doing.
You
know
similar
activities
in
different
parts
of
the
county.
At
the
same
time,
and
my
discussions
with
dell
was
if
we
had
one
vehicle
that
had
the
clearance
and
the
four-wheel
capability,
they
could
all
have
access
to
that
vehicle.
H
It
may
be
somewhat
inconvenient
instead
of
doing
it
on
your
way
into
work.
They'd
have
to
come
in
and
grab
it
and
go,
but
that's
the
thought
process
is.
We
don't
need
four
trucks.
If
you
will
suvs
with
four
wheel,
we
can
have
one
and
then,
as
he
as
mentioned,
we
can
start
to
you
know,
maybe
there's
a
surplus
vehicle
at
the
sheriff's
department.
That
is
again
three
four
years
old
has
a
little
higher
mileage,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
driving
it
all
over
the
back
40
all
the
time.
H
G
Fee,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
It
seems
to
me
there's
two
options
is
to
check
with
the
sheriff
see
if
we
can
add
one
to
that
fleet
on
the
order
and
look
at
that
cost,
and
the
second
option
would
be
one
of
the
lowest
mileage
that
they're
going
to
take
out
of
service.
G
Okay,
I
mean,
if
you
got
one
with
a
hundred
thousand
miles
and
it's
going
to
planning,
it
doesn't
need
to
be
used
every
day
for
in
its
four-wheel
capacity,
so
one
of
those
vehicles
could
be
redirected
to
planning
that's
an
option.
Okay,
whatever
the
committee's
pleasure
is,
but
that's
an
option.
Okay,.
J
N
J
N
For
irrigation
systems,
we
have
pipelines
that
come
up
out
of
the
ground
in
the
middle
of
fields
that
have
valves
and
electrical
devices
that
we
test
so
yeah
we're
out
in
the
middle
of
corn
fields.
Sometimes
yeah
and
you
know,
we've
a
lot.
You've
probably
heard
that
there's
a
lot
of
solar
farms
that
are
going
to
be
coming.
Those
are
all
get
inspected
for
electrical
connections
and
transmission
lines,
and
things
like
that.
So
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
off-road,
but
not.
A
A
A
We're
gonna
have
put
out
where
we're
at
here
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
give
the
okay
to
purchase
a
new
vehicle
for
planning
through
the
sheriff's
department,
and
the
second
part
of
that
motion
would
be
that
if
he
has
a
available
whatever
100
000
mile,
don't
really
need
to
say
that.
But
he
has
a
vehicle
available.
That's
sufficient
to
for
the
needs
of
the
planning
that
he
would
go
ahead.
And
you
believe
that
issue
yeah
or.
A
C
A
Right
next
thing
up
is
river
valley,
juvenile
detention
center
renegotiation.
Mr
wheeler.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
The
this
is
informational
right
now
I
told
executive
yesterday
I
think
I
had
mentioned
it
at
criminal
justice
in
the
past.
Our
agreement
with
the
juvenile
detention
center
in
will
county,
which
both
us
and
will
county
are
part
of.
H
I
believe
it
was
a
20-year
agreement
at
the
beginning
and
the
financial
side
of
it
has
expired.
It
expired
december,
1st
of
2016.,
so
right
now
we're
we
still
have
an
agreement,
but
there
is
no
financial
aspect
to
it.
You
may
remember
that
they,
the
pbc
who's,
actually
holds
title
much
like
it
does
here
locally.
The
the
public
building
commission
has,
you
know,
built
our
jail
here
and
a
lot
of
the
facilities
out
on
justice
way
the
they're
the
management
side
of
this
okay.
So
right
now
they
maintain
that
building.
H
You
know,
do
all
of
the
the
roofs
and
you
know
the
parking
lots
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
the
op.
You
know
the
op
and
the
maintenance,
if
you
will,
the
operations
is
what
we
pay
for
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
we
contributed
to
a
make
a
maintenance
fund
for
these
bigger
projects
that
fund
as
it
stands
right
now.
That's
where
we
got
our
roughly
million
dollars
in
the
past.
We
took
out
of
it
because
it
was
over
funded.
Will
county
took
some
money
as
well.
H
I
believe,
right
now,
after
they
took
that
bond
payment
out
that
we
didn't
make
last
year.
I
think
it
was
around
330
000,
so
the
bond
is
retired
on
this
whole
facility,
so
it's
bought
and
paid
for.
H
If
you
will
so
there's
nothing
there,
except
our
550
000,
roughly
in
the
maintenance
fund
for
ongoing
maintenance
projects
which
may
or
may
not
manifest
in
big
projects
over
the
next
five
ten
years
beyond
hvac
stuff,
and
things
like
that,
so
the
question
is,
is
what
are
we
gonna
do
for
the
next
five
or
ten
years?
It's
a
renegotiation
to
figure
out
the
financial
arrangement
of
what
we
pay
versus.
What
will
county
pays
proportionally
to
the
the
juvenile
inmates
that
are
sent
there,
and
we
know
that
that
is
a
shrinking.
H
H
It's
a,
I
will
say
state
of
the
art
if
you
will
on
what
they
do
with
the
programs
schools.
Everything
else
so
my
intention
is-
is
to
renegotiate.
I
don't
you
know.
We've
got
some
cost
in
the
infrastructure
of
that
facility
as
it
stands
right
now,
so
to
walk
away
would
be
kind
of
silly,
but
we
do
have
to
renegotiate
based
on
what
our
financial
situation
is.
Our
use
of
that
facility
and
the
will
county's
use
of
that
facility.
H
I
mean
they
have
courtrooms
up
there,
but
we
can't
necessarily
use
those
because
we
have
to
take
you
know
we
dr,
have
to
drop
the
juveniles
off
up
there,
and
then
they
have
to
be
come
back
here
for
court.
Then
we
have
to
take
them
back
up
there
and
know
it's
a
it's.
A
labor
intensive
situation
for
us
and
we're
we're
driving
all
over
the
place.
H
E
H
And
they
you
know
they
can't
be.
You
know
over
weekends,
and
things
like
that.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
associated
with
this
yeah
it's
48
and
that
doesn't
matter
if
it's
a
weekend
or
not,
it
has
to
be
done.
You
know
so
the
costs
on
this
are
substantial.
You
know,
so
we
have
to
work
this
out
going
forward,
so
I'm
going
up
there.
H
I
believe
it's
a
30th,
don't
quote
me
on
that,
but
I'll
be
going
up
with
our
state's
attorney
and
I'll
probably
take
mr
mccarty
with
me,
if
he's
available,
to
start
that
process
on
negotiations
on
what
we're
going
to
do
going
forward.
So
you
know
for
the
record
here
and
to
talk
to
this
group.
Obviously
you'll
have
to
approve
any
new
financial
arrangement,
but
that's
my
intent
is
to
still
keep
that
going.
H
But
knowing
that
you
know
the
courts
are
releasing
a
lot
of
juveniles
now,
they're,
not
detaining
them
unless
it
is
a
violent
crime
and
even
possessing
a
gun
is
not
considered
something
that
if
you
can't
make
bail,
you
know
they
release
you
now
we
know
the
new
law,
the
recognizance
bond
stuff.
So
we
have
to
taken
that
into
consideration
on
what
we
do
as
far
as
negotiations
that
it's
probably
not
going
to
be
what
it
was
20
years
ago,
when
the
the
population
was
a
lot
higher.
H
H
No,
what
was
it?
What
was
our
terms
on
that?
Oh
is,
I
think
we
were
paying
18
of
the
maintenance
and-
and
you
have
to
forgive
me-
I
have
to
look
at
it
again,
but
it
was.
It
was
roughly
25,
you
know,
20
excuse
me,
it
was
our
cost
versus
you
know
will
count
was,
will
county.
H
It
was
a
little
bit
different
on
the
the
the
maintenance
side
of
things
you
know,
so
it
might
have
been
18
on
on
the
operations
and
20
on
the
maintenance,
but,
as
I
figured
it
out,
we
had
about
2
million
dollars
and
sunk
cost
in
there
of
everything
we
had
paid
in
the
actual
infrastructure,
something
you
just
don't
walk
away
from.
You
know
I
was.
H
Exactly,
and
so
you
know
they
just
put
a
roof
on,
they
just
put
a
key
card
system
in
they
just
did
a
parking
lot.
That's
why
we
saw
our
fun
drain
from
we
had
roughly
800
or
almost
a
million
dollars
in
there,
and
it
got
drained
down
right
before
the
end,
and
that
was
what
they
did
is
they
got
everything
basically
up
to
code
before
the
agreement
expired,
and
that
was
the
pvc.
H
That's
part
of
it
and
the
this
committee
should
know
that
we've
been
since
there
has
been
no
financial
agreement
per
se.
That's
part
of
our
payables
that
are
sitting
there
because
those
bills
keep
coming
in.
So
we
have
maybe
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
you
know:
operations
and
maintenance
payments
that
are
sitting
there
and
obviously
the
will
county
board
would
like
their
money
for
that,
even
though
it's
technically
the
pbc
is
the
middleman.
In
all
of
this
so-
and
this
is
the
pvc
in
will
county,
this
is
their
only
project.
H
They
have
no
other
projects,
but
this
one-
and
there
is
no
financial
arrangement
for
this
project.
So
technically
you
know
they're
concerned
will
county
board's
concerned.
I've
been
in
contact
with
the
will
county
executive
for
the
better
part
of
four
or
five
months
now
talking
about
exactly
what
are
we
going
to
do
so
now?
It's
the
time
that
we're
going
to
figure
out
what
we're
going
to
do
going
forward
so
again
for
the
record,
my
intent
is,
is
to
keep
this
going
forward
and
with
the
approval
of
the
board.
H
Obviously,
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
do
that,
but
the
financial
terms
have
to
be
correct,
based
on
how
much
we're
going
to
use
it.
So,
yeah
and
plus
I
mean
our
cash
flow,
we're
not
going
to
have
a
lot
of
you
know
we.
It
couldn't
be
the
same
type
of
situation
based
on
our
cash
flow
and
our
usage
and
what
we're
seeing
so
it
could
be
creative
on
what
we
do.
H
It's
without
getting
too
into
the
into
the
weeds,
I
believe
the
old
price
and
mr
latham
could
correct
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
I
think
it
was
133
a
day.
The
133
dollars
a
day,
it's
140,
okay,
but
there
are
other
considerations
to
that.
To
your
point,
I
think
that
our
landed
cost
our
sunk
costs.
We
would
abdicate
if
we
have
that
type
of
relationship.
We
don't
we're
not
an
owner
anymore
right.
H
So
if
any
of
these
part
of
the
marketing,
if
you
will
that
I've
been
speaking
with
the
county
executive
about
is,
is
that
there
are
other
people
in
the
boat
that
we're
in
and
what
facilities
are
they
using
in
grundy
ogle,
all
these
other
iroquois
all
these
other
areas,
because
I
think
we
have
one
of
the
finest,
if
not
the
finest
in
the
state,
are
we
reaching
out
to
other
counties
who
need
to
do
the
same
thing
that
we
do
with
our
our
juvenile
detainees?
H
H
You
know
to
be
honest,
there's
there's
other
facilities
out
there
that
you
know
danville
has
one
cook
has
one,
but
my
I
it's
not
as
good
as
what
we
have
and
we
have
a
great
partner
in
will
county.
I
don't
think
that
we
should
walk
away
from
that,
but
it
has
to
be
make
financial
sense
what
we
come
up
with
and
I
think
it
will.
A
Yeah,
so
anything
else
on
that
okay
bid,
letting
parking
or
lot
overlay
is
that
the
old
jail
that
is.
H
The
old
jail
part
of
the
we
have
two
situations:
the
first
of
all
that
part
of
the
the
ada
concerns
of
the
courthouse
were
not
enough
accessible
parking.
Okay,
so
that
was
that
complex.
If
you
will
that's
all
part
of
the
the
same
discussion,
you
have
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
of
ada
spots.
So
at
one
point
we
were
looking
at
that
you
could
group
ada
spots
together,
but
the
the
hill
was
too
tall.
You
know
basically
to
to
go
up
that
hill.
H
If
you,
you
know,
didn't
need
assistance,
you
know
if
there
was
nobody
around
you
couldn't
get
up
it.
Basically,
so
we
we
solved
part
of
that
problem
by
having
our
accessible
spots
in
the
circle
drive
in
front
of
the
or
in
the
back,
the
south
side
of
the
courthouse.
H
We
still
need,
and
we've
heard
in
building
a
grounds
that
we
have
a
major
problem
on
the
south
side
or
the
north
side
of
the
jail.
Excuse
me,
the
old
jail
that
there
is
basically
no
parking
lot
anymore,
it's
just
gravel
and
dirt.
You
know
I
I
it's
bad
and
I
figure
I
feel
if
we
plow
it
we'll
probably
have
all
dirt.
So
we
have
now
that
we
have
a
our
reentry
program.
H
I
believe-
and
mr
lear
knows
the
name
of
that-
I've
drawn
a
blank
on
it,
but
that
re-entry
program
is
located
in
there
now
and
so
there's
that
parking
lot's
full,
and
so
we
have
a
serious
safety
issue.
Plus
we
have
the
ada
ramp
is
crumbled,
so
I
don't.
We
have
issues
there
and
part
of
what
the
the
ag's
response
was.
Is
they
need
this
all
ada
parking
up
to
code?
If
you
will
date
certain
by
may
30
of
next
year,
okay
might
be
28th
thursday.
H
I
don't
remember
how
many
days
are
in
may,
but
yeah
30
31.
I
don't
remember
so.
We
start
getting
into
seasonality
issues.
Okay,
we
have
a
problem
with
when
we
let
these
bids
what
if
we
have
a
long
winter,
what
if
you
know
so
right
now
we're
up
against
it
as
far
as
if
we
want
this
done
this
year,
it
has
to
be
done
like
now.
Okay,
we
have
to
get
this
going
now.
H
So
with
notification
issues,
you
have
to
publish
it
in
the
newspaper
for
two
weeks
on
a
bid,
letting
we
would
have
to
approve
that
today
and
I'll
explain
a
little
bit
about
what
that
is
in
a
minute.
We'd
have
to
prove
this
today
go
in
the
paper,
and
then
we
have
a
finance
committee
meeting,
which
I
will
impress
that
everyone
needs
to
be
at
so
we
have
a
quorum
at
8
45
before
the
9
a.m.
Full
board
meeting
to
open
the
bids.
H
Okay,
because
other
than
that
we'd
have
to
push
in
another
month,
then
we're
in
october
full
board
before
we
approve
it
and
we
could.
Who
knows
we
could
have
snow.
You
never
know
with
what
goes
on
with
weather.
So
the
good
part
about
this
is
is
that
this
whole
project,
as
we
talked
about,
was
about
80
grand
with
all
the
curb
all
the
ada
ramp.
You
know
and
we're
talking
concrete
ramp
out
of
the
parking
lot
signage.
H
The
whole
deal
pavement.
It's
a
total
rework
in
that
that
area.
The
good
thing
is:
is
that
half
or
maybe
a
little
more
than
half
the
highway
departments
can
be
able
to
do
for
us?
Okay,
so
really
in
this,
this
bid
letting
we're
just
letting
the
overlay,
and
I
can't
think
mr
rogers
enough
for
this,
because
it's
it's,
it's
really
saving
us
now
that
leading,
if
you
will,
you
know
who
knows
it
may
be
40,
maybe
30.
H
We
don't
really
know
where
that's
gonna
come
in,
but
that's
roughly
the
estimate,
that's
what
we'll
be
opening
bids
for
is
the
overlay
he'll,
do
all
the
prep
work
and
get
everything
ready
and
they're
just
gonna
come
in
and
put
that
down.
You
know
the
hot
mix
is
costly,
probably
because
the
oil-
I
guess
I'm
not
sure,
but
it's
not
cheap,
so
that
that's
why
I'm
bringing
it
here
is
because
we
would
have
to
approve
it
here
and
then
he'll.
He
puts
it
in
the
paper
yeah.
H
H
Out
to
bid
on
this
17,
you
know
five,
zero,
zero,
zero,
pk
parking
lot
overlay,
and
then
that
would
be
it.
So
this
really
is
it's
two
issues.
First
of
all,
now
that
that
parking,
lot's
being
used,
it's
a
safety
issue
and
it's
a
mess
second
thing
is:
is
I've
got
to
work,
we're
working
towards
being
done
with
our
ada
concerns,
and
this
is
part
of
it
that
has
a
date
certain.
H
By
the
way
the
40
could
come
from
revolving
loan,
that's
the
other
side
of
it
where
the
money
could
come
from
yeah,
even
though
that's
would
be
dwindling.
We
have
you
know
that
would
bring
us
down
to
around
100
000
in
the
revolving
loan
fund
that
we
have
to
absorb
into
the
general
fund
anyway,.
K
Thank
you,
chairman,
after
being
on
highway
and
bridge
for
several
years
and
going
through
some
good
lettings
mark
is
back
here.
I
hope
you
can
vouch
or
whatever,
but
normally,
if
you
get
two
or
three
bids,
the
motion
is
to
take
the
low
most
responsible
bidder.
If
we
open
them
bids
and
those
bids
aren't
going
over
in
15,
I
mean
there's
no
way
that
they
could
go
through
them
bids
in
15
minutes.
K
Mark
you
understand
what
I'm
saying
you
know
we
take
the
low
responsible
bidder
if
they
take
it
back
and
they
go
over
something
and
somebody
didn't
bid
it
the
right
way
and
we
approve
it.
It
like
that
and
goes
to
the
county
board,
and
we
approve
it
at
the
county
board
and
then
they
find
out
that
something's
not
right.
Where
do
we
go
from
there.
M
Yeah
you're
correct,
but
with
this
leading
there's
only
going
to
be
probably
two
or
three
pay
items
on
it,
so
there
aren't
going
to
be
a
lot
of
patterns.
There's
going
to
be
the
hot
mix
asphalt
and
there's
going
to
be
the
concrete
work.
A
M
Redo
the
ramp,
so
they
should
we're
going
to
write
specifications.
That'll
be
very
specific.
We
can
do
a
quick
check
on
the
math.
There
will
be
no
pre-qualifications
because
we're
guessing
it's
going
to
be
less
than
50
000,
so
we
won't
have
to
check
any
of
those
requirements
either.
So
we
should
be
able
to
do
that
in
that
15
minutes.
Okay,.
A
G
A
H
B
B
H
Good
tim,
thank
you,
one
of
the
other
date,
certain
items
that
the
attorney
general's
office
sent
to
me
and
by
the
way
it
was
a
a
very
encouraging
letter,
they've
they've,
approved
of
all
of
our
steps.
Now
I
sent
another
communication
yesterday.
H
We've
we're
on
the
road
to
working
through
this.
This
committee
will
hear
some
things
next
year
about
how
do
we
pay
for
a
ramp
and
a
court
courtroom
upgrade
if
you
will
to
be
accessible,
but
it's
not
the
four
or
five
million
dollars
that
we
were
led
to
believe
in
the
past.
So
it's
probably
not
going
to
come
anywhere
close
to
that
so
we'll
be
back
in
that
discussion,
but
that
that's
date
certain
for
september
2018,
for
when
we
have
to
have
those
at
least
completed
or
underway.
H
This
one
is
date
certain
by
I
think
two
days
from
now
and
we
have
to
any
municipal
unit
government
over
50
employees
has
to
have
an
ada
coordinator,
and
that
has
been
a
sticking
point
as
I
look
back
through
the
communications
for
the
attorney
general's
office
really
ever
since
they
started
this,
there
was
nobody.
That
was
a
point
person
here
at
the
county
for
ada
issues,
so
they're,
basically
tired
of
us
waiting,
and
they
gave
me
until
the
end
of
the
month
to
find
that
person.
H
I
received
that
letter
right
before
the
full
board
meeting
at
the
beginning
of
this
month.
So
as
I
look
through
it,
you
know,
and
you
investigate
that
job.
I
look
through
what
the
qualifications
would
be
for
a
full-time
ada
coordinator,
knowing
coordinator,
knowing
that
our
staff
is
taxed
already
as
far
as
time,
we're
barely
able
to
keep
up
with
what
we
got
and
those
full-time
positions
are
quite
expensive
and
very
specific
on
the
training
that
they
they
have.
H
So
then
it
became
something
of.
Is
that
a
full-time
position
that
we
could
afford?
Just
for
that,
the
answer
was
no.
Is
that
can
I
point
someone
here
full.
You
know
as
part
of
their
full-time
job,
to
do
it
and
temporarily,
for
you
know
a
month
or
two.
Yes,
I
probably
could
problem
is
if
the
attorney
general
said,
oh
by
the
way,
here's
this
pile
of
things
that
I
need
you
to
do
as
the
ada
coordinator.
H
That
would
we
don't
have
the
people
to
do
that,
and
we
don't
know
that
that
won't
happen.
So
my
thought
was
is
okay.
Now
I'm
looking
at
a
part-time
position
and
how
do
we
find
a
person
with
that
skill
set
for
part-time
and
who's
going
to
come
work
for
what
we
can
afford
to
pay
and
it
was.
It
became
obvious
that
we'd
have
to
train
somebody
into
that
job.
H
So
then
I
started
thinking
about
what
else
do
we
need
as
a
administration
department,
and
it
occurred
to
me
that
since
we
had
an
employee
leave
in
finance
that
had
all
of
the
workforce
board
because
we're
the
fiscal
agent
for
the
workforce
board
and
they
give
us
an
allocation
one
person
that
job
is
going
to
be
divided
up
against
more
people?
It's
going
to
take
more
time.
Even
steve
is
working
on
it
now,
because
we
just
have
we
got
to
get
up
to
speed.
H
We
got
to
know
what's
going
on,
so
I
figured
out,
and
I
approached
the
the
workforce
board
and
we
had
a
nice
conversation
and
we're
going
to
up
our
allocation
from
the
workforce
board
to
cover
expenses.
So
that
would
be
another
job
that
this
position
would
do
would
be
to
process
all
of
the
claims
for
the
workforce
board,
and
so
I'm
able
to
cover
off
a
large
part
of
this
position
based
on
the
time
they
spend.
H
Obviously
because
they're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
for
the
workforce
board
and
they're
going
to
be
doing.
You
know
on
the
claim
side,
some
simple
accounting
they'll
be
assisting,
obviously
in
in
hr
and
in
payroll
and
no
county
board
stuff
and
anything
else
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
in
the
administration
side.
That's
why
I
came
up
with
the
title
of
you
know
the
administration
services
coordinator.
H
You
know
it
sounds
fancy,
but
it's
basically
you're
doing
a
lot.
You
know
of
different
things
so
and
it's
a
you
need
someone
who
has
a
lot
of
attention
to
detail
because
at
some
point,
they're
going
to
have
to
be
able
to
take
a
complaint
on
an
ada
issue
follow
up
on
it,
be
able
to
walk
into
like
a
restroom
and
say
well
that
bar
is
not
the
right
height,
you
know.
So
it's
just
not.
You
know
a
12
15
hour
job.
H
You
know
this
is
something
that
has
to
be
highly
analytical,
maybe
has
to
learn
how
to
either
knows
or
looks
at
prince
has
an
idea
about
hr.
You
know
so
it's
it's
not
just
that.
So
I
have
to
bring
it
to
this
committee.
I
brought
it
to
you,
know
the
executive
committee
to
let
them
know
what
was
going
on
so
the
other
problem
is,
I
got
to
do
it
by
the
end
of
the
month,
so
I
posted
it.
H
So
we
can
get
applications
in
pending
approval
from
this
committee
to
to
go
ahead
and
pull
the
trigger
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
What
would
be
the
typical
or
is
it
a
typical
college
degree
that
maybe
an
ada
coordinator
would
come
from?
Is
there
a
specific
skill
set,
and
I
think
I
can't
think
of
any
unless
they
were
in
like
the
special
education
side
of
school,
but
went
into
more
of
administrative?
I
it's.
H
It's
really
it's
almost
something
that
you
either
learn
on
the
job
or
there
is
college
degree
programs
for
something
similar,
but
it
always
involves
like
the
building
sciences.
You
know
like
being
able
to
know
you
know
that
technical
drafting
and
those
types
of
things
or
architecture
you
get
that
kind
of
background,
but
then
there's
you
know
the
other
side
of
it
on
conflict
resolution
training.
You
know
things
that
they
have
to
work
with
the
department
heads
on
those
types
of
things.
H
So
you
know
there's
there's
a
a
wide
variety,
but
then,
if
you
add
on
other
things,
you
know
they're
how
you
have
to
have
some
accounting
to
be
able
to
do
claims,
and
you
know
the
skills
to
be.
You
know
attention
to
detail
excel.
You
know,
so
some
of
this
would
be.
We
might
be
able
to
help
streamline
the
claims
process
from
all
the
administration
departments.
To
take
some
of
that,
I
say
pre-screening
work
off
of
the
auditor's
shoulders,
so
we
give
him
a
better
set
of
pre-screened
claims.
H
That
was
another
idea
that
we
could
help
improve
the
operations
and
the
the
the
not
necessarily
doing
work
of
the
auditor's
office,
but
making
sure
they
got
the
best
input
material
that
they
possibly
could
you
know,
so
we
don't
have
to
keep
going
back
and
forth.
So
that
was
the
other
part
of
this
position.
That
would
that
we're
thinking
about
too
so.
G
H
Point
of
clarification,
we're
looking
at
the
training
coming
from
potentially
icrmt
and
iprf
our
liability
carriers
and
our
work
comp
carriers.
They
have
a
lot
of
classes,
so
we
want
to
try
to
pick
up
as
much
of
that
as
possible
from
them
right.
So
that's
part
of
what
we
get
for
free
all
right.
So
it's
worth
believe
me.
I'm
trying
to
do
this
as
frugal
as
I
can.