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Finance Committee Meeting 3/27/2019 9:00 AM
A
B
A
C
If
I
remember
correctly,
we
had
a
renewal
of
our
first
year
somewhere
in
the
neck
of
the
woods
of
20
to
23
percent
and
when
you've
got
three
or
four
million
dollars
annually
being
spent
on
healthcare.
That's
a
lot
of
money.
We
shifted
plans,
deductibles
and
things
of
that
nature
and
got
it
down
to
a
manageable
level,
but
it
was
still
a
lot
of
cost
the
next
year.
C
I
think
we
got
hit
with
another
22
or
23
percent
increase,
and
all
of
this
is
is
is
due
to
problems
within
the
scope
of
what
I'll
call
the
experience
of
the
group.
You
know
the
expense
of
claims
and
throughout
that
period
of
time
there
were
also
and
as
you're,
going
to
see
here,
a
number
of
large
claimants
and
somewhere
between
8
and
9
per
year
over
$50,000
of
claims,
and
when
you
have
those
kinds
of
numbers
that
really
impacts
the
group.
C
It's
like
you
know
bad
on
top
of
bad,
so
to
speak
in
his
last
two
renewals,
things
have
gotten
dramatically
better.
The
experience
has
gone
away
from
the
hundred
or
greater
than
100
percent,
which
means
that
claims
are
greater
than
the
premium
that
the
insurance
carrier
has
taken
in
and
now
we're
down
into
the
last
two
renewals
I
believe
last
year's
was
1.5
percent.
C
That
is
due
primarily
I.
Think
because
we
have
laid
out
offerings
to
the
employees.
There
are
four
alternatives
out
there.
There
are
two
HSA
plans,
one
with
a
$2,700
deductible
on
HSA,
with
a
$5,000
deductible
and
we've
got
a
PPO
traditional
PPO
plan,
and
then
we
have
what
is
called
to
navigate
HMO
and
I
was
checking
with
Anita
yesterday
and
right
now.
C
They're
going
to
point
you
to
a
specialist,
but
only
by
a
referral
and
the
unique
thing
about
this
HMO
versus
a
lot
of
other
ones
is
that
the
network
is
very
large
statewide
and
you
can
go
to
any
specialist,
that's
in
the
network,
so
it's
not
just
in
a
physician's
group.
So
it's
a
very
unique
and
I
think
well-managed
plan.
So,
having
said
that,
in
your
packet
you're
going
to
see
some
sheets
that
look
like
this
in
the
first
one
page
that
I'm
going
to
focus
on
is
called
the
executive
affordability
scorecard.
C
It
says
up
in
the
left,
hand,
corner
demographics,
cost
sharing
and
high-cost
claimants
and
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
each
of
these
items,
but
you'll
see
up
a
top
in
the
first
blue
box
that
just
talks
about
the
demographics
summary.
We
don't
know:
okay,
I'm,
sorry,
it
would
up
in
the
corner
will
say
demographic
summary
in
the
corner
and
it
should
say
page
3
down
on
the
left-hand
corner.
Forgive
me,
I
forgot.
It
was
black
and
white.
In
a
regard.
The
number
of
subscribers
there
has
stayed
pretty
constant
membership.
C
C
There
has
been
about
a
5%
decrease
in
this
prior
period
to
current
period
and
it
really
is
a
rolling
12
month
period.
If
you
will
so
anytime,
you
see
that
they're
just
comparing
one
period
to
another.
It's
the
easiest
and
most
start
way
to
look
at
it
cost-sharing
is,
is
you
know
a
there's,
an
employer
cost
in
terms
of
excluding
anything
the
employee
might
have
available
both
cases,
employer
and
employee.
C
That's
been,
you
know
it's
down,
19%
and
16%,
and
then,
if
you
drop
down
to
that
last
box,
high
cost
claimants,
there
you'll
see
the
number
of
claimants
prior
period
7
in
current
period
3,
and
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
people
that
have
claims
greater
than
$50,000
and
prior
to
that
7
number.
It
had
been
as
high
as
nine
at
one
point,
so
you
can
see
that
you
know
there's
not
a
lot
of
control
there.
C
Somebody's
gonna
have
a
high
cost
claim,
it's
gonna
happen,
but
we've
gotten
lucky
along
with
having
done
the
right
things,
I
think
organizationally
and
directionally
below
that
you're
going
to
see
net
paid,
per-member
per-month
the
prior
period
was
at
ninety
nine
point.
76
and
here
we've
got
a
drop
of
sixty-five
percent.
In
this
current
period,
total
net
paid
again
a
twenty
two
percent
drop
there.
C
C
These
reports
are
all
all
through
January
of
2019
and
here's
these
these
cost
categories
are
a
little
bit
more
interesting
prior
period
and
inpatient
facility
charges.
You'll
see,
has
been
reduced.
The
change
by
forty
four
point:
six
percent.
Interestingly,
the
second
to
last
box
there,
it
says
United
Healthcare
norm
is
eighty
two
bucks.
So
we
were,
you
know
quite
a
bit
better
than
what
their
know
their
benchmarks
are:
emergency
room
were
down
30%
primary
care,
physicians
and
OBGYN
visits.
Those
are
the
only
two
that
are
up.
C
If
you
will
I,
don't
see
a
problem
with
that,
but
you'll
see
in
specialties,
there's
a
14%
drop
and
almost
uncannily
and
we've
been
trying
to
figure
this
out,
but
pharmacy
charges
have
dropped
thirty,
two
percent
and
that's
within
a
scope
of
a
time
when
pharmacy
charges
in
the
marketplace
are
going
up
dramatically.
So
you
know
we
think
right
now
in
the
united
healthcare
is
working
on
defining
this.
C
That
again,
the
navigate
products
had
some
effect
on
this
overview
of
you
know
some
of
the
prescriptions
that
are
being
handed
out
so
we're
going
to
keep
an
eye
on
that.
That's
a
great
piece
of
news,
but
I'm
not
sure
we
know
exactly
right
now
why
that
is
so
uniquely
present
to
this
one.
Last
but
not
least,
you
know
you
can
drop
down
in
that
network
utilization
of
overview,
and
you
know
what
you
have.
C
That's
managed
pharmacy,
and
here
we
see
that
the
number
of
claimants
not
dramatically
different
down
three
point:
six
number
of
scripts
only
down
one
percent
now
on
the
net
paid
per
claim
number
is
down
almost
30
percent,
so
it
could
be
as
little
as
just
different.
You
know.
Scripts
are
being
filled
so
again
it
might
be
that
or
it
could
be,
that
people
are
being
shifted
over
to
more
generic
and
that's
that's
what
we
wanted
to
know
in
specific,
so
the
paid
prescription
numbers
are
way
down
and
then
the
average
copay
prescription
was
down.
C
C
C
This
is
because
it's
substantiates
where
we
were
and
where
we
are
today
and
if
you
go
over
to
the
last
or
the
third
to
the
last
column,
it
says:
claims
to
premium
ratio,
you'll
see
down
at
the
bottom
there,
the
the
current
period
at
this
point,
which
would
have
been
that
2017,
it
was
at
ninety
five
point.
Four
percent
in
the
prior
period
in
2016
and
2015
was
well
over
a
hundred
percent.
C
So
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
page,
to
see
how
dramatically
this
has
shifted
here
were
through
January
1st
of
2019
and
again,
if
you
go
over
to
that,
third
to
last
column
claims
the
premium
ratio
you'll
see
that
right
now
that
the
current
period
is
at
sixty
seven
point,
six
percent,
so
you
know
it
couldn't
get
any
more
dramatic
than
that.
I
mean
that's
a
big
number
and
you'll
even
see
that
the
prior
period,
the
12
months
before
that's
down
about
10%
from
what
it
was.
C
So
you
know
again,
these
are
on
a
rolling
basis,
so
you're
gonna
see
this
month
to
month
and
it's
gonna
start
looking
pretty
good.
When
you
look,
you
know
at
your
current
and
a
prior
period,
and
so
you
know
I
think
again.
Last
year
we
did
our
renewal
and
it
was
1.5
percent.
After
you
know,
I
think
they
came
out
at
4.9.
We
got
some
quotes,
we
showed
it
to
them.
They
got
it
down
to
two
and
a
half
and
based
on
some
heavy
pressure
from
county
board
members
that
we
got
it
down
to
1.5.
C
But
you
know
that
wasn't
me
as
a
genius
I
think
that
was
just
natural
business
negotiation
of
any
type
you
know.
So
they
said
here:
we've
got
another
half
a
point,
we'll
give
you
and
I
said
what
makes
somebody
happy.
But
in
any
regard
you
know
right
now
we
would
have
to
say
we're
in
as
good
a
position
as
we
were
last
year.
C
C
D
D
C
Say
three
years
ago,
I
would
not
have
suggested
changing
the
funding
mechanism
we're
using,
which
is
fully
funded.
What
does
that
mean?
You
pay
a
premium?
They
pay
a
claim,
there's
no
discussion
in
it.
However,
you
know
there
are
other
methods
out
there
and
I'm
not
talking
about
necessarily
only
self
funding,
but
what
is
called
minimum
premium
plans
where,
at
the
end
of
the
year
you
pay
premium,
that
is
ten
or
fifteen
percent
lower,
then
at
the
end
of
the
earth.
C
C
Now
is
the
best
time
to
look
at
that,
because
the
health
portion
of
the
plan
has
cleaned
up.
It
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
right
now,
but
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
what
and
we'll
take
a
look
at.
You
know
there
are
three
or
four
other
carriers
out
there.
That
would
have
an
interest
in
their
this
I
think.
So
it's
the
best
time
to
do
a
lot
of
those
kind
of
stuff.
Okay,
thank
you
are.
C
Thank
you,
I
think!
That's
it
in
general.
Unless
you've
got
other
questions
over
the
next
few
months,
we're
going
to
have
more
of
these
style
reports
and
keep
a
close
eye
on
it
and
then,
as
we
get
to
August,
which
is
the
time
period,
we
start
to
get
the
renewals
in
we'll
be
sending
all
that
stuff
back
out,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
to
work
on
that.
You
know
in
September,
but
we'll
be
talking
about
some
of
these
concepts,
I
think
earlier
than
that
possibly
July
August.
C
Here,
here's
what
might
be
appropriate
here
and
and
I
think
it's
important
for
the
Finance
Committee
and
all
the
committee's
that
share
responsibility
here
is
to
understand
the
concepts
that
are
involved,
because
these
funding
mechanisms
are
sometimes
confusing.
But
if
you
have
enough
time
to
understand
them,
you
know
they
may
become
pretty
easy
to
get
a
long
way.
D
To
that
to
that
point,
thank
you.
We
should
probably
start
on
that
education
process
as
soon
as
possible,
because
if
we're
looking
at
approving
a
pitch,
if
you
will
from
whoever
or
whatever
then
it's
not
be,
and
that
would
be
the
at
the
it
would
really
have
to
be
at
the
October
full
board
meeting,
and
so
because
then
we
have
to
you
know,
do
our
budget
in
November
and
to
be
adopted
in
November,
so
we
would
have
to
have
those
numbers
for
our
budget.
You
agree,
mr.
D
A
Appreciate
that
presentation
and
we'll
move
on
to
the
approval
of
the
minutes,
you
have
the
minutes
of
February
27th
and
distributed
mr.
Bern
motion
to
approve
Miss
Parker
seconds.
Any
questions,
hearing
no
questions
or
discussion.
All
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes
say
aye
opposed,
nay
motion
carries
we'll
move
to
the
Treasury
report,
kind
of
because
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
combine
and
approve
mr.
Sorenson
mr.
Peyton
seconds
discussion.
And
what
have
you
got
for
us
thanks.
F
Mr.
chairman
I
just
have
a
couple
notes
for
today
just
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
the
tax
dates
have
been
set.
First,
installment
due
date
will
be
June
13th.
Second
installment
due
date
will
be
September
5th,
we're
preparing
doing
all
the
work
right
now
for
the
bills.
We
continue
to
speak
at
different
groups
across
the
county
to
publicize
the
tax
payment
program.
We're
very
happy
with
the
amount
of
people
that
have
signed
up
and
last
but
not
least,
I
am
finally
going
to
be
trained
as
a
treasurer
by
the
state
of
Illinois.
F
April
10th
and
11th,
the
wonderful
Susanna
Mendoza's
office
will
be
training
me
in
Springfield,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
learning
how
to
do
the
job
and
just
to
mention,
run
I
run
kins
mr.
Kinzinger
and
I
are
gonna
meet
afterwards
and
I
welcome.
Anybody
else
would
like
to
meet
to
talk
about
some
things
that
they'd
like
to
see.
Additionally
in
the
treasurer's
report,
he
had
spoken
about
some
things.
I
mean
there
are
some
things
that
need
to
be
in
there
by
ordinance
which
we
do
now,
but
certainly
if
I
can
provide
more
information.
That's
helpful.
F
I
have
no
problem.
Doing
that
and
I
just
remembered
as
I'm
looking
I
want
to
say
that
the
health
care
program,
Mike
Lynch,
has
been
very
helpful
to
me.
I
have
a
daughter,
who's
has
a
chronic
illness
and
the
insurance
has
been
just
awesome
and
I'm,
not
getting
my
eye
fix
cuz.
He
Andy
said
that
we
I
need
to
save
some
money
on
the
other
side
for
health
care.
F
D
Thank
you,
mr.
chairman,
a
team
player.
Thank
you.
So
when
we
make
motions,
we
can't
say
I,
correct
I
just
wanted
to
mention,
and
it
was
talking
to
the
treasurer
outside,
and
you
know
we
can
do
the
early
disbursements
of
taxes
as
soon
as
the
the
new
tax
bills
go
out
and
I
was
varied.
I
didn't
we
kind
of
chuckled
I
told
him
to
keep
his
money.
We
don't
eat
it
right
now,
yeah
and
we
haven't
had
to
say
that
in
a
long
time
yeah.
F
E
E
F
F
But
you
mentioned
something
in
its:
it's
not
exactly
what
you
talked
about,
but
I
wanted
to
address
it.
Last
year,
I
made
a
mistake
on
the
tax
bills.
There
was
a
legal
description
as
opposed
to
a
property
address
which,
for
normal
everyday,
run-of-the-mill
bills,
it's
not
a
problem,
but
for
people
with
multiple
partials,
it's
a
huge
problem
because
they
don't
know
which
you
know
they
don't
know.
They're
at
the
parcel
by
it's
legal
description,
that'll
be
fixed
this
year,
I
think,
that's
probably
it
we've
been
able.
It
looks
like
to
negotiate.
F
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
well
you
everybody
knows,
probably
that
postage
went
up
to
50
cents,
which
you
know
it's
when
you
look
at
it
in
terms
of
percentage,
it's
a
large
percentage
increase,
but
we
were
able
to
negotiate
and
do
some
things
to
the
bill.
Looks
like
we're.
F
Gonna
get
our
postage
at
about
thirty
nine
point:
six
cents,
a
piece
for
postage,
so
we're
pretty
happy
about
that,
and-
and
we
have
about
fifty
six
thousand
parcels
and
I-
think
we
end
up
getting
down
to
around
forty
one
and
a
half
thousand
bit
pieces
of
mail,
because
we
mailed
multiples
in
the
same
envelope
to
save
money.
So.
A
I
I
So
with
the
change
and
the
online
collection
of
activity
going
on
we'll
see
how
that
trend,
you
know
continues
that'll,
be
something
of
a
new
trend
that
left
to
keep
an
eye
on
it
get
used
to,
but
unfortunately,
as
one
goes
up,
replacement
tax
still
showing
struggles,
we
had
communication,
you
know
along
those
lines
so
again
we're
we're
watching
that
as
well.
So
it's
a
few
highlights.
I
The
back
billing
with
the
inmate
program
we
basically
under
normal
conditions.
You
know
we
billed
for
February
and
the
only
real
outstanding
at
this
point
would
be
the
DHS
ice.
We're
still
owes
for
January.
So
at
this
point
I
would
say
they're
the
only
agency
that
is
not
fully
caught
up
so
we'll
see
you
know
how
long
that
takes
for
them
to
get
back
up
to
speed,
but
with
the
shutdown.
But
as
the
communication
goes,
you
know
at
this
point
as
Nick
is
brought
up.
We
we
do
have
in
May.
I
If
you
look
at
May
and
nineteen
estimated
at
two
two
million
dollar
property
tax
distribution
that
we
had
calculated
as
estimated
that
we
still
may
need
you
know,
as
we
get
through,
May
April
will
be
the
tightest
with
the
three
payrolls
in
March.
You
know,
with
the
flow
that
we
have
going
so
so
will
still
communicate
with
negative
way.
We
put
that
in
May,
because
that's
usually
the
month
timeframe,
one
though
the
tax
bills
get
produced.
So
we
look
at
that
form
a
period.
So
any
other
updates.
I
The
just
realized
the
heading
got:
dropped
off
back
in
accounts
payable
at
the
bottom,
which
the
heading
I
got
ahead
to
back
to
the
report.
Some
reason
that
got
dropped
off
went
up
a
little
bit
through
the
timeframe
that
we
we
did
have
to
hold
some
back
with
the
Fed
closing.
But
when
I
was
working
on
this
Monday,
our
current
counts
payable
was.
I
We
were
at
ninety
three
thousand
in
the
system,
so
we're
within
30
to
45
days
and
accounts
payable
at
this
point,
so
we're
pretty
well
caught
back
up
and
and
I
believe
we'll
be
able
to
stay
in
that
window
going
forward.
So
I
believe
all
of
our
vendors
are
happy
at
this
point.
A
lot
less
calls
and
activity
along
those
lines.
So
when
we're
caught
up.
I
J
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I'm,
looking
at
February
18,
looks
like
we
borrowed
money
and
looked
at
the
accounts
payable
in
February
of
eighteen
and
checked
with
February
of
nineteen.
Everything
seems
to
be
about
the
same.
Would
you
say
that
the
significant
savings
is
out
of
the
county
and
that
the
only
way
of
improving
our
situation
is
through
additional
income?
I
You
know
the
this
is
a
snapshot
as
of
the
last
day
of
the
month,
but
you
know,
as
you
can
see,
if
you
look
at
March
18
April
18,
you
know
where
AP
grew
were
were
in
much
better
shape.
On
that
regard,
the
snapshot
as
I
said
I
believe
everywhere.
It
grew
because
we
actually
did
have
to
slow
Sun
down
because
of
the
federal
government
shutdown
in.
J
I
A
I
For
those
of
you
that
are
new,
this
is
something
that
the
board
has
traditionally
done
at
the
end
of
the
year.
Contingency
is
something
that
is
budgeted
and
sits
in
its
own
Department,
if
you
will
in
the
system
and
then
is
used
for,
if
needed
at
the
end
of
the
year
through
operational
identification.
So
this
is
an
adjustment
within
the
general
fund.
Doesn't
change
the
totals
in
any
way
it's
more
of
an
internal
adjustment
from
contingency
out
to
the
list
of
the
departments
and
the
dollar
amounts,
and
then
this
will
go
into.
I
J
A
B
A
We
have
one
claim
under
recommend
did
not
approve
for
approval
yeah.
I
A
J
D
Yeah,
what
I,
what
I
did
was
is
when
the
the
sheriff
asked
me
about
it.
I
said
bring
it
to
the
committee,
because
the
auditor
doesn't
have
the
authority
to
reject
a
claim
only
to
not
sign
off
on
it,
and
if
this
was
not
easily
resolved
in
that
situation
it
comes
to
the
committee
and
then
basically
all
we
need
the
sheriff
to
tell
us
to
do
is
pay
the
bill.
A
A
K
D
B
G
E
I
Just
a
short
update
if
I
can
just
an
update
on
on
our
current
projects,
the
audit
is
in
full
swing
and
we're
working
on
our
urine.
Kapha
report,
also
working
on
when
the
general
fund
will
we'll
be
back
in
the
black
here
in
FY
2019,
and
also
we
have
a
rate
change
coming
with
IMF
and
we're
working
on
that
information
as
well
to
submit
to
the
committee
and
communicate.
So
so
that's
just
an
update
on
what
we're
working
on
there's
any
other
questions
about
this.
D
Just
so,
you
know
that
rate
change
is
not
favorable
is,
if
they
ever
are.
But
this
is
it's
a
real
concern
with
a
lot
of
counties
out
there.
Ours
is
smaller,
so
we
don't
have
as
much
impact,
but
still
the
percentage
is
could
be
substantial
for
what
happens
to
our
pension
fund.
So
we'll
we'll
figure
out
what
that
means
and
bring
it
back.
I
And
then,
for
communication
later
in
the
meeting,
the
also
included
a
communication
summary
that
I
had
with
Julie
Boudreau
with
the
animal
control
and
just
update
the
Committee
on
financial
information.
So
we
can.
We
can
discuss
that
later,
if
need
be,
but
that
it
was
there
for
FYI
for
the
committee's
information.
K
K
We
are
at
this
point
in
time
through
February,
we
are
four
hundred
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
twenty
four
dollars
more
in
revenue
than
we
were
at
this
time
last
year,
which
are
which
obviously
is
a
good
thing,
we'll
continue
to
our
population
has
stayed
very
consistent.
In
fact,
our
population
we
are,
we
are
pretty
much
out
of
beds
when
ice
or
the
marshals
want
additional
space.
We
don't
have
it,
so
we
are
working
through
a
few
things
to
see
what
we
can
do
and
what
options
we
have.
K
I
know
that
our
local
population
is
certainly
on
the
increase
and,
as
I've
said
a
hundred
times
before,
that's
who
were
responsible
for
locally,
so
that
is
our
first
priority
and
then
the
housing
of
the
Attic
counties
our
outcome
after
that,
so
that
money
probably
will
level
off
as
we
move
forward
only
because
we
only
have
so
many
beds.
So
we're
not
going
to
continue
to
see
the
increase
in
dollars
from
housing.
K
That
will
at
least
alleviate
a
little
bit
is
that
our
local
metro,
who
I'm
sure
you've
seen
if
you
read
the
local
paper
I,
believe
they
bought
some
new
buses
through
some
grants
in
that
and
some
of
their
buses
that
they
are
no
longer
using,
are
still
very
doable
and
they
are,
they
have
already.
Their
board
has
done
an
asset
transfer
for
us
to
have
two
buses
that
will
help.
K
Not
for
free
I
mean
we'll
pay
for
it.
There's
a
cost
of
that
and
we'll
pay
for
that.
But
to
have
somebody
who's
familiar
with
those
buses
is
is
very
important
for
us
because
we
certainly
don't
want
to
get
stranded
on
a
road,
whether
it's
local
or
a
highway,
with
a
bus
full
of
inmates
or
detainees,
and
that
becomes
a
little
problematic
sometimes,
but
that's
so
that's
a
big
plus
because
those
buses
are
well
maintained
and
they
will
continue
to
be
so.
So
that's
good
news
on
that
side.
K
A
K
K
Back
in
May
of
2018,
we
hired
an
employee
in
our
medical
department,
who
knows
and
I
know,
Mike
Lynch
it'll
is
left,
but
she
is
a
whiz
with
medical
bills
and
from
May
of
2018
to
November
30th,
the
2018
in
going
through
all
of
our
inmate
medical
bills
and
what
we've
been
billed
for
and
what
we
should
pay
compared
to
what
we've
been
billed
in
fiscal
year
2018.
She
saved
us
sixty
thousand
two
hundred
twelve
dollars
which,
as
as
you
know
with
with
a
group
that
we
have
of
averaging
about
675
to
720.
K
December
through-
and
this
is
actually
the
most
up
to
date-
I
think
was
about
two
days
ago.
She
has
saved
us
thirty,
seven
thousand
two
hundred
and
twelve
dollars,
so
she
continues
to
stay
on
that,
in
addition
to
her
other
duties,
but
but
that
is
very
important
that
yet
she
go
through
those
bills
to
make
sure
that
we're
paying
exactly
what
we
should
be
as
opposed
to
what
the
hospital
is
billing
us.
So
a
huge
plus
questions
on
that
all
right
and
lastly,.
K
K
So
to
give
you
a
little
history
for
those
of
you
new
to
the
board,
we
started
housing,
the
US
Marshall's
back
in
2004,
right
in
December
of
2004
right
prior
to
us
moving
into
our
new
building,
and
we
got
it
into
an
agreement
with
them
back
in
2004
for
a
rate
of
$60
per
day.
That
rate
was
good
till
approximately
and
I
can't
remember
the
specific
date,
but
I
believe
it
was
June
of
oh
wait
that.
K
Again
we
submit
information
and
we
entered
into
a
five-year
agreement
and
that
rate
was
$80
a
day
that
expired.
That
five-year
agreement
expired
in
November
of
2018.
Last
summer
we
submitted
the
information
again
requesting
a
rate
increase
and
effective
March
1st,
so
the
dating
back
retroactive
to
March
1st.
We
now
have
a
daily
rate
for
both
the
marshals
and
ice
of
ninety
dollars
a
day
so
and
that's
a
four
year
agreement,
not
a
five
year.
It's
a
four
year
agreement.
K
So
that's
one
less
year
than
what
we
dealt
with
last
last
time,
so
that
will
amount
to
over
the
course
of
a
full
year
amount
amount
to
about
a
1.2
million
dollar
increase.
If
our
number,
if
our
out
of
county
average
stays
at
350
we're
billing
for
more
than
350,
we
just
used
350
in
case
our
population
goes
down
a
little
for
the
rest
of
this
year.
It'll
amount
to
about
nine
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
increased
money,
so
without
with
with
minor
expenses,
because
those
are
already
built
in
so
mr.
K
K
So
we
take
all
the
county
expenses,
including
part
of
my
salary,
part
of
the
the
jail
salaries
benefits.
Utilities.
I
mean
everything
that
is
associated
with
any
cost
of
operating
our
jail,
and
we
send
them
that
money
that
we're
that
the
county
is
paying
out
and
then
they
we.
We
obviously
ask
for
what
we
think
is
the
right
amount,
and
then
it
becomes
a
negotiation
and
and
does.
A
G
L
K
Previous,
so
so
officially,
you
can
request
a
rate
increase
every
three
years:
every
three
okay,
unless
you
enter
into
an
agreement
that
is
longer
okay,
the
last
agreement
back
in
2000
2013,
we
went
from
72
to
80
for
five
years.
This
is
a
little
better
deal
because
we
went
up
ten
dollars
as
opposed
to
eight
dollars
for
four
years.
L
K
I
actually
requested
initially
I
gave
them
a
couple
options
after
they
gave
us
their
first
response.
Their
first
response
was
for
$86
for
a
for
a
three-year
contract
and
I.
My
response
was
to
options,
because
options
are
always
good.
Canton
would
let
them
pick
right
five
years
at
$95
or
four
years
at
90,
and
they
chose
port
90.
So,
okay,
obviously
those
things
will
move
as
we
move
and
and
that
$90
is
not
out
of
the
norm
right.
K
One
of
the
things
that
we
fight,
though,
with
the
feds
and
I
say,
I
use
that
term
that
fight,
but
we
are
actually
in
the
Central
District
of
Illinois
in
the
in
the
federal
system.
So
everything
we
do
is
out
of
Champaign
Urbana
Springfield
Peoria
we're
the
northernmost
County
Chicago
Cook
County,
the
the
collar
counties
the
cost
of
living
with
them
is
is
so
our
cost
of
living
is
closer
to
them
than
it
is
to
central.
L
K
B
B
A
M
Right
good
morning,
mr.
chairman,
good
morning,
committee,
really
nothing
significant
there
are
I
will
send
out
a
link.
There
are
a
couple
of
formatting
errors
that
I
discovered
after
the
email
was
already
sent,
but
the
content
is
pretty
much.
You
know
it's
all
there
and
you
saw
the
list
of
transactions
already
so
yeah.
A
N
N
The
when
I've
looked
on
line
at
natural
and
averages
of
this
they,
according
to
like
payscale.com
cron,
calm,
the
hourly
income
for
an
animal
control
officer
with
crime.
Calm
is
1561
per
hour.
The
pay
scale
is
1474
per
hour
and
looking
I
had
sent
an
email
out
some
time
ago
to
colleagues
around
the
county.
Other
counties
around
the
state
of
Illinois
several
of
them
had
responded.
N
Okay,
I
had
provided
these
documents.
I
thought
that
you
guys
had
them
the
pay
rate
that
I'm
asking
to
be
increased
from
11
27
to
14
27
for
our
base
scale.
I
have
right
now.
I
have
two
vacancies.
They
have
three
animal
control
officers,
I
have
two
vacancies:
we've
lost
three
officers
in
the
last
year
and
I
think
you
know
some
that
can
really
be
contributed
to
the
pay
they've
needed
to
go
on
and
accepted
jobs
that
were
able
to
provide
them
or
pay.
N
N
This
is
probably
even
a
little
bit
more
than
that,
because
I
prepared
this,
maybe
a
month
ago,
a
few
weeks
ago,
so
less
that
wage
that
that's
not
been
paid
out
since
January
were
probably
looking
at
less
than
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
and
forty
dollars
and
80
cents
increased
to
my
budget.
My
projected
revenue
over
expenses
for
2019
was
sixty
eight
thousand
one
hundred
fifty
nine
dollars
and
forty
four
cents.
This
would
still
leave
a
projected
excess
of
sixty
thousand
three
hundred
and
forty
four
dollars
and
64
cents.
A
L
You,
mr.
chairman,
mr.
Budrow,
how
often
or
do
any
of
your
animal
control
employees
receive
overtime
pay?
Are
they
working
more
than
40
hours
a
week
for
night
calls
or
anything
like
that?
I
mean
if
we.
L
N
N
E
N
Have
discussed
this
with
HR
had
sent
this
up
and
talked
with
I've
discussed
with
with
Anita
I.
Don't
know
that
I
really
talked
specifically
with
the
finance
director
about
these
pay
increases.
We've
talked
about
other
subjects,
with
our
budget
in
the
building
and
and
as
I
was
told.
This
was
put
on
the
finance
meeting
today
to
talk
to
you
folks,
my.
J
Personal
opinion-
and
that's
all
I
can
express-
is
that
a
three
dollar
wage
increase
is
significant.
However,
the
amount
is
not
unreasonable
and
to
be
caught
flat-footed,
not
knowing
what's
happening.
What's
in
the
market,
the
problems
that
you're
facing
and
limited
discussion
with
people
who
have
to
make
the
actual
payment
makes
me
somewhat
hesitant
and
nervous.
How
would
you
answer
that.
N
You
know
right
right
now,
I
feel
that
our
officers
aren't
probably
getting
compensated
enough.
I
feel
that
my
budget
can
support
this,
and
you
know
I'm
really
concerned,
as
I
have
two
open
spots
where
we're
looking
for.
You
know,
educated
professional
people
to
come
in
and
do
a
job
that
you
know
these
officers
deal
with
a
lot
of
different
situations
regarding
animals.
They
can
be
dangerous.
We
deal
with
the
same,
sometimes
the
same
people
that
the
law
enforcement
are
dealing
with.
A
Might
be
appropriate
for
those
who
may
be
new
to
the
Finance
Committee
to
remind
them
not
accurate
that
your
revenue
comes
from
outside
the
general
fund,
but
more
from
fees.
The
the
impact
on
the
general
fund
would
be
in
terms
of
benefits
which
the
benefits
have
paid
through.
The
general
plan
is
that
correct,
correct.
N
A
D
You
know.
So
if
the
person
does
make
$24
like
they
do
in
Elgin,
how
many
are
there?
What
is
their
city's
budget?
You
know
it's
$30
like
in
Madison
County
as
the
lead,
a
CEO,
how
many
other
people
are
in
Madison
County
places
like
you
know
smaller
counties
or
city
of
Salem.
You
know
it
was
relevant
without
that
other
formation,
so
I
didn't
want
to
cloud
the
discussion
without
having
that
you
know
basically
cost
per
taxpayer
if
you
will
per
employee
of
that.
D
You
know
what
I
mean.
So
that's
this
committee
is
deciding.
Is
it
worthy
of
a
twelve
twelve
eleven
thousand
one
hundred
seventy
four
dollar
increase
to
the
budget,
knowing
that
those
that
comes
out
of
the
fees
that
are
paid
so
I
support
the
idea,
but
I
want
at
least
the
committee
to
ask
the
questions
and
not
necessarily
make
sure
that
they
were
comfortable
with
all
the
other
questions
that
may
be
around
that
this.
H
Thank
you
I'm
just
curious
how
much
education
goes
into
being
on
this
person
that
you're
hiring
looking
to
a
training
or
education?
You
said
they're
highly
educated.
What's
the
education
level
well,.
N
N
Naca
is
stands
for
national
animal
control
Association
and
they
get
certifications
as
they
go
to
those
trainings,
their
training
trained
in
chemical
capture.
So
there's
a
lot
of
training,
that's
specific
to
the
officers.
A
lot
of
that
I
mean
to
have
an
applicant
come
to
me
with
those
certifications
already
are
golden.
Most
of
them
do
not.
N
D
Yep
just
a
point
of
reference:
that
is
the
case.
We
do
least
lose
good
people
to
other
counties
once
they
get
those
certifications,
then
they're
marketable,
and
then
they
go
elsewhere
for
sometimes
50
75
percent
more
from
day
one.
Sometimes
they
want
to
come
back
because
the
grass
isn't
always
greener.
A
E
O
A
N
Amount
includes
the
increase
to
the
additional
officer
to
have
somebody
that
has
a
criminal
justice
degree.
That's
been
here
for
five
years
to
move
a
entry-level
applicant
up
to
14
27
and
not
to
increase
him
he's.
Currently
it
well
I'm
guess
he
would
go
up
to
14
27,
maybe,
but
currently
he's
at
12,
79
and
I
tried
to
you
know,
look
at
what
you
know
if,
if
increases
can
be
done
on
an
annual
basis,
what
that
would
look
like
over
a
five-year
period
and
that's
where
I
came
up
with
the
1573.