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Finance Committee Meeting 8/23/2023 9:00 AM
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C
D
Good
morning,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
my
name
is
Paula
Wells
I'm,
the
deputy
director
of
Kankakee
County,
Community,
Services
and
I-
am
here
just
to
share
with
you
in
regards
to
the
portion
of
the
grant
that
we've
received
already,
we
did
have
an
audit
I,
don't
know
if
Cindy's
here,
okay,
we
did
have
an
audit
on
August
10th,
which
went
well
all
the
questions
and
that
Cindy
had
went
over
well.
D
We
also
shared
with
her
our
processes
and
procedures
in
regards
to
the
Zeta,
which
also
it's
a
sorority,
which
also
is
part
of
the
county
Grant
under
kccsi,
and
she
looked
at
our
processes
and
procedures
to
see
how
we're
fiscally
operating
with
the
Zetas,
and
she
assured
me
that
everything
is
in
place
and
we're
processing
everything.
Well,
so
she
had
no
concerns
or
questions
awesome.
A
C
A
A
F
F
So
we
will
get
back
to
you
with
that
and
Mr
Wheeler
asked
me
to
give
an
update
where
we
came
from
last
month.
To
this
point,
we've
got
another
report
that
has
come
through
and
I'll
start
just
by
pointing
you
there's
a
page
blue
in
site.
Monthly
financial
report
go
to
page
six
and
Page.
Six
is
an
outline
of
the
financial
summary
of
periods
January
of
2022
through
July
of
2022
and
then
compared
to
23
January
to
June
same
period.
F
F
We've
got
large
claims
which
I'll
show
you
in
a
minute
that
have
impacted
that
increase
down
in
the
bottom
left
hand,
corner
you'll,
see
that
it's
broken
up
by
Medical,
Pharmacy
and
important
vbc
payment
simply
means
other
Alternatives
that
reduce
certain
payments
from
third-party
vendors
and
then
total
paid
claims,
and
that
number
sits
at
37
37.9
percent
increase
and
then
at
the
bottom.
You
see
the
group
liability
same
dollar
amount
same
percentages,
that's
an
increase
in
seven
months
from
one
period
to
the
other,
about
922
000
bucks.
F
So
that's
a
million
dollars
of
a
total
expense
annually
somewhere
in
the
four
to
five
or
four
and
a
half
million
dollar
range.
So
that's
a
pretty
big
number.
If
you
want
to
turn
to
the
next
page,
seven
you'll
see
that
a
positive
of
all
of
this
is
that
the
month
before
last
you'll
see
at
the
bottom
of
the
June
2023
and
start
on
the
left
and
go
to
the
far
right.
F
We
had
124
percent
loss
ratio
and
I
met
with
Andy
and
Steve,
and
we
I
just
said
you
know
we
we
probably
ought
to
be
prepared
to
to.
Let
people
know
that
this
could
be
a
a
bad
omen
and
and
and
what
I
was
worried
about
is
if
we
had
another
month
of
three-digit
loss
ratios,
thankfully
that
didn't
happen
and
that's
not
going
to
automatically
save
the
entire
year.
F
The
next
page
I
wanted
to
point
you
to
would
be
page
11,
and
this
shows
why
you
know
part
of
this
expense
problem
and
it
it's
nobody's
fault
as
I
always
say,
but
you've
got
eight
people
here
with
claims
over
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
the
top.
Four
of
them
are
claims
over.
One
hundred
thousand
dollars
those
top
four
are
about
six
hundred
and
ninety
three
thousand
dollars
alone,
and
then
you
can
see
that
all
eight
together
is
about
968
000..
F
F
The
last
page
just
give
you
a
pharmacy
perspective,
is
page
15
and
January
to
July
22
versus
January
to
July
23.,
it's
about
a
12.9
percent
increase.
A
lot
of
groups
are
having
increases
in
Pharmacy
Financial
summaries
in
the
pharmacy
area
in
the
mid-20s.
This
this
group,
fortunately,
has
done
pretty
well,
although
a
double-digit
number
is
is,
is
still
sitting
there
and
so
it's
not
as
bad
as
it
could
be.
F
The
second
report,
you'll
have
are
page
four
and
five
of
what
is
called
the
executive
summary
of
the
utilization
report
and
very
quickly.
I'll
just
point
you
to
the
summary
page:
it's
page
four
and
you
can
see
they
identify
the
individual
increases
inpatient
per
member
per
month.
Increase
by
37
percent,
then
they
break
it
out
by
Surgical
and
Medical
outpatient
decreased,
which
is
good
because
so
much
is
being
done
in
outpatient
scenarios.
These
These
Days,
the
Professional
Services
Physicians
doctors
increased
by
21
I.
F
Think
you
know,
I'm
always
asked
this
question.
Sometimes
you
know
to
covet,
held
a
lot
of
people
back
and
we're
still
seeing
a
lot
of
people
catch
up
with
seeing
their
Physicians
after
the
fact,
and
so
these
increases
are
are
somewhat
understood.
Medical
payments
increased
by
12
percent
Pharmacy
decreased
by
5.1
percent
during
the
two
reporting
periods
of
this,
and
you
can
see
below
high
cost
claimants
increased
by
29
between
the
two
periods
claims
over
fifty
thousand
dollars.
F
We've
got
an
increase
and
you'll
see
in
the
center
of
the
page.
It's
telling
us
we've
got
about
an
8.7
percent
increase
and
it's
important
to
understand
that
in
the
sense
that
when
the
underwriter
is
looking
at
this,
they
look
at
the
current
12-month
period,
but
they
also
Look
Backwards
to
see
where
they're
coming
from
and
where
they
think
they're
going
to
so
a
couple
of
things
here
that
are
positive.
The
loss
ratio
is
in
good
shape.
C
F
F
F
And
so
you
know
that's
pretty
good
really,
when
you
think
about
it,
average
ages,
you
know,
can
fluctuate
per
group
and
sometimes
when
you
see
them
in
the
mid,
40s
and
mid
50s,
you
see
some
real
problems
in
terms
of
dealing
with
increases
as
you
grow
older,
but
this
is
a
pretty
decently
young
group
right
now.
Thank.
F
That's
it,
and
hopefully
we'll
have
this.
Oh
one
other
comment,
I'm.
Sorry,
the
market
will
tell
us
a
lot
about.
What's
going
to
happen
with
us
and
Blue
Cross,
we've
got
the
census,
it's
been
sent
out
to
Market
and
we've
got
five
carriers
that
are
looking
at
it
to
tell
us
what
they
think
the
group
could
do
under
their
auspices,
but
it
also
helps
us
to
go
back
to
Blue
Cross.
A
H
H
We
I'll
keep
an
eye
on
the
clocks
now
I
see
where
they
are
I'll,
be
brief
and
hopefully
informative
along
the
way.
So
our
topic
here
is
the
457
Deferred
Compensation
Plan,
so
I'll
explain
a
little
bit
of
what
that
is,
and
I'll
try
to
wear
multiple
hats.
One
is
you
know,
speaking
to
the
organization
as
a
whole
in
the
committee
and
also
to
participants,
because
there
are
true
benefits
for
for
both
sides,
so
it'll
be
a
bit
in
depth.
So
who
we
are
excuse
me?
H
Equitable
advisors
is
a
Fortune
500
company,
it's
a
financial
services
institution
and
we've
been
around
for
over
160
years.
So
our
profession,
we
are
financial
advisors.
We
happen
to
be
part
of
a
group
there's
about
a
thousand
of
us
throughout
the
country
that
focus
on
the
public
sector
so
specifically
not
exclusively
but
very
heavily
in
schools
and
municipalities.
H
So
that
is
our
Focus.
The
the
seven
plan
is
an
elective
benefit,
so
employees
can
choose
to
contribute
to
it
and
it's
essentially
their
version
of
a
401k.
So
a
457b
is
derived
from
section
457b
of
the
IRS
tax
code.
That's
why
it's
called
that
it's
for
government
entities
primarily
and
is
something
that
the
the
county
currently
offers.
So
why
are
we
here?
The
457
Market?
In
our
view,
again,
our
view
has
been
an
underserved
Marketplace
for
many
years.
H
There
are
and
I
think
that's
a
perfect
slide
to
leave
it
on
by
the
way.
Thank
you.
There
are
I
think
a
number
of
great
companies
that
serve
this
Marketplace,
but
there
has
really
been
a
lack
of
competition
in
this
Marketplace
and,
what's
that's
led
to
not
just
here
locally
in
Illinois,
but
nationally
is
a
lot
of
situations
where
costs
are
much
higher
than
they
they
should
be.
So
that's
a
big
driver
and
that's
going
to
be
part
of
the
benefit
to
employees,
so
we
are
for
what
it's
worth
we
are.
H
Our
office
is
out
of
Oak
Brook,
so
we're
local
and
our
our
connection
with
this
area.
We
do
a
lot
of
work.
Tremendous
amount
of
work
in
the
school
districts-
we
have,
you
know,
advisors
that
live
in
the
Chicagoland
area
in
this
area,
so
we
are
local
and,
and
part
of
our
reach
out
consistently,
is
to
make
sure
we
are
contacting
employers
like
this,
whether
it's
a
county
or
just
a
municipality,
a
village
of
a
certain
size
that
we
feel
may
be
underserved
in
this
Marketplace
in
the
457..
H
So
that's
kind
of
been
our
approach
is
making
sure
we're
getting
the
word
out
as
it
relates
to
457
from
an
employer's
perspective.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
right
and
I.
I
understand,
I,
scratched
the
service,
a
lot
of
things
that
a
county
has
to
do
very
important
things,
and
the
457
is
important,
but
I
would
say
on
the
totem
pole.
It
is
not
typically
like
the
primary
objective
to
run
a
county
or
a
municipality.
So
with
that
said,
what
we
discussed
and
what
we
brought
to
you
know.
H
Andy
and
Anita
in
the
county,
was
information
that
we
derived
from
gfoa,
which
is
the
government
Finance
Officers
Association
and
best
practices
that
they've
published
related
to
how
to
operate
a
457b
plan
responsibilities.
As
an
employer
and
essentially
what
it
comes
down
to
and
I
will
be
brief
with
these
gfoa
is
the
acronym
has
three
best
practices
and
actually
kind
of
interesting,
because
it's
local
Winnebago
County
did
an
audit.
H
I
think
we
can
make
it
better,
but
to
provide
a
good
plan
for
participants,
and
the
whole
idea
is
that
you
know,
although
money
is
not
the
most
important
thing
in
the
world,
it
is
pretty
important.
Besides
in
any
particular
way,
you
want
to
rank
it.
Family,
friends,
Health,
religion,
money
is
typically
right
somewhere.
Next
right
it
could
cause.
It
could
provide
Freedom,
Financial
Freedom
to
retire
to
spend
time
with
family
to
you
know,
pursue
Hobbies.
H
It
could
allow
employees
to
retire
at
a
let's
say,
a
younger
age
versus
stay
on
the
payroll
for
a
county.
So
there's
a
budgetary
situation,
so
providing
a
great
retirement
plan
for
them
is
is
Paramount
and
kind
of
stated.
There
are
also
fiduciary
responsibilities
by
an
employer
that
basically
says.
In
summary,
you
should
provide
a
very
good
plan
and
that
is
going
on
whether
the
current
provider
is
a
good
provider.
H
So
with
that
said,
the
the
county
was
able
to
share
with
us
general
information,
public
information,
nothing
specific
to
employees,
and
the
current
plan
looks
like
this,
and
this
is
as
of
September
of
2022,
so
the
numbers
have
changed
a
bit,
but
not
too
far
off
where
this
would
not
be.
You
know
accurate,
so
there's
roughly
four
and
a
half
million
in
the
plan
and
that's
all
participants
whether
there
are
currently
employed,
retired
work
somewhere
else.
H
That's
just
in
the
plan
about
97
accounts,
36
of
those
actively
contributing
and
the
total
cost
the
Blended
cost
for
all
employees.
Some
will
have
more,
some
will
have
less
and
I
can
I
can
explain
if
needed
how
we
get
the
total
Blended
cost
is
about
1.27,
so
that
means
on
average
the
employees
are
paying
1.27
percent
for
their
Investments.
The
proposed
plan
is,
on
average,
a
cost
of
0.55
or,
as
we
refer
to
it,
55
basis
points.
H
So
it
is
less
than
half
with
I
would
say
equally
good,
if
not
better
Investments,
a
more
open
architecture
approach
so
for
employees
I
mean
for
the
for
the
employer.
I
think
it's
great
because
they're
doing
their
job
right,
they're,
having
hopefully
equally
or
better
or
better
service
local
representation.
H
So
that's
that's
great,
but
really
where
I
get
excited
is
for
the
employees
right
so
I
don't
know
how
many
people
are
interested
in
finance.
But
you
see
these
there's
plenty
of
studies
and
you
know
published
documents
that
show
the
impact
of
costs.
You
know
to
someone's
retirement
so
when
so,
there's
no
cost
to
the
employer
whatsoever
to
make
a
change
like
this.
H
You
also
have
local
representation,
fully
licensed
financial
advisors
who
will
meet
with
employees
one-on-one
at
work
at
our
office
at
their
homes
if
they
want
a
spouse
or
significant
other
or
parent,
whoever
it
is
involved.
That's
a
lot
of
what
people
enjoy
so
a
lot
of
benefits
to
the
employees
as
well,
so
wrapping
it
up.
So
we
are
with
Equitable
advisors.
That's
the
firm!
We
work
for
luckily
and
I've
been
here
21
years.
H
Luckily,
it's
it's
always
been
what
I'll
describe
as
an
open
architecture-
company,
meaning
there's
some
Investments
some
products
we
manufacture,
but
we
don't
have
to
use
them.
We're
not
incentivized.
It
doesn't
matter
who
we
use.
So
we
shopped
out
the
marketplace
and
looked
at
some
of
the
top
providers
in
the
457
Marketplace
nationally,
and
we
believe
Empower
is
the
name
of
the
firm
would
be
the
best
choice
and
that's
that's
the
pricing
that
we
indicated
so
I.
H
Don't
think
these
days,
people
love
to
hear
see
like
how
PowerPoint
presentation,
so
we
have
one
I'm,
clearly
not
following
it,
but
this
you
know
in
power
is
the
second
largest
retirement
plan
provider
in
the
country,
not
that
this
means
we
should,
because
you
know,
I'm
born
and
raised
in
Illinois
right,
so
I
know
Illinois,
but
Illinois
state
of
Illinois
is
actually
using
Empower
as
the
state
plan.
So
obviously
it
doesn't
mean
we
want
to
just
follow
what.
G
H
H
E
Chairman
wheeler,
just
just
as
far
as
a
process
comment
Anita's
been
working
with
these
gentlemen.
We've
met,
we've
talked
the
benefits
for
the
employees
are
why
we're
doing
this
is
the
the
reduction
in
the
plan
expense.
It
means
they
have
more
at
the
end
of
this.
So
that's
the
real
reason.
We
don't
get
a
whole
lot
out
of
it
except
a
happier
employee,
maybe
some
reduced
FICA.
You
know
if
more
people
get
into
the
plan,
I
don't
know
if
these
are
pre-tax
dollars.
E
I
believe
they
are
so,
but
just
so
the
committee
knows
so.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
introduce
this
to
department
heads
at
the
next
apartment
head
meeting,
we're
going
to
get
that's.
Why
we're
doing
on
video,
we'll
chop
it
up
and
get
this
to
the
30
or
so
employees
who
are
in
this
type
of
plan
right
now
and
will
move
everybody
together
after
a
vote
of
the
County
Board
looking
at
September,
Finance
I
think
it
was.
E
The
time
was
the
time
period
that
we're
looking
to
get
this
done
so
I
that
just
so
there's
an
expectation
took
this
opportunity.
Get
the
information
out
introduce
it
to
the
employees
the
department
heads
if
there's
any
new
sign
ups,
that
would
happen
in
open,
enrollment,
I
would
guess,
and
and
so
we
would
go
from
there.
Anita
did
I
misrepresent
anything.
E
I
Just
a
couple
things
we
currently
have
30
employees
on
this.
We
have
32,
actually
two
are
retiring
in
the
next
short
period
of
time,
but
30
employees
on
this
program,
these
gentlemen,
have
committed
that
they
would
meet
with
each
one
individually
so
that
those
employees
can
feel
comfortable
that
this
is
the
right
answer
for
them.
So
I
think
that's
key,
then
what
would
happen.
Our
timing
is
over
the
next
30
days.
I
We'll
do
those
two
things
present
to
the
department
heads
meet
with
those
current
30
current
enrollees
in
the
457b
plan
and
then
bring
it
back
here
for
approval
in
September,
and
if
the
change
is
made,
then
it
would
go
on
with
open
enrollment
in
December,
effective
1-1.
That's
the
timing,
as
we
have.
It
currently
mapped.
H
Pretty
much
every
school
district
we
are
by
far
the
largest
Equitable.
Now
and
again,
sometimes
it
gets
confusing.
We
are
with
Equitable
but
open
architecture.
We
can
use
other
firms,
but
our
our
firm
Equitable
is
the
largest
provider
of
403
B's
in
the
nation,
and
four
three
b's
are
the
school
version
of
a
401k,
so
so
we're
in
every
school
district.
Basically,.
B
H
A
A
K
Good
morning,
I'll
try
to
keep
this
moving.
I
know
there's
a
lot
to
do
today,
plus
the
second
meeting.
As
far
as
the
regular
Financial
reports,
no
complaints
I
want
to
congratulate
the
sheriff
and
his
staff
for
reaching
the
million
dollar
billing
Mark.
Here
the
last
month,
we
haven't
seen
that
since
2019
I
believe
so
a
lot
of
activity
going
on
there.
K
As
far
as
pprt,
we
are
expecting
a
I
read
a
1.7.
Approximately
1.7
million
dollar
decrease
we're
about
a
million
450
off
of
that.
So
still
doing
well.
No
complaints
we'll
continue
to
watch
that
so
just
a
very
quick
overview.
A
few
highlights
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
specific
questions
before
I
move
on
any.
K
Cash
flow,
no
complaints
there,
showing
the
bond
payoff
returning
of
Highway
funds
is
regular
and,
along
with
our
regular
Bond
payments.
So
this
is
still
north
of
two
million
dollar
additional
estimate.
You
know
at
the
end
of
November
as
compared
to
November
of
22,
so
still
no
complaints,
a
good
cash
flow,
no
issues.
If
there's
any
specific
questions
or
not,
there.
A
L
L
L
Instead
of
making
a
telephone
call
and
saying
hey,
this
wasn't
signed,
can
I
put
an
initial
on
it
or
whatever
it
got,
sent
back
to
our
department,
so
the
signature
that
is
on
the
claim
form
now
is
the
signature
of
Amy
ludke.
Who
is
our
finance
director,
slash
accountant,
slash
and
while
it
was
a
signature,
I
believe
it
was
a
pissed
off
signature
just
because
of
the
way
that
it
was
presented
to
us,
which,
unfortunately,
in
the
tenure
of
our
auditor,
isn't
all
that
uncommon.
L
The
second
one
is
another
gripe
about
a
lunch
meeting
and
why
we're
paying
for
lunch
meetings
again
with
a
phone
call?
The
question
could
have
been
answered
instead
of
not
recommending
it
for
payment.
That
meeting
happened
to
be,
as
most
of
you
I'm
sure,
aware,
there's
a
new
safety
act
coming
into
a
effect
on
September
18th.
It's
not
new.
L
It
just
was
found
constitutional
by
the
only
Supreme
Court,
so
the
state's
attorney
wanted
to
meet
with
the
municipalities,
all
the
police
agencies
who
are
going
to
deal
with
this,
not
only
the
police
agencies,
but
the
mayors
of
those
municipalities,
the
trustees
of
those
municipalities,
or
at
least
some
at
least
one.
Some
of
the
some
of
the
trustees
came,
others
didn't
which
was
their
choice,
but
we
had
Mayors
and
we
had
police
Chiefs
and
so,
instead
of
making
a
phone
call
saying
hey
what
was
this
meeting
about?
L
He
doesn't
recommend
it
for
payment
and
the
last
one
for
those
of
you
that
know
our
department
I'm
sure
you
are
familiar
with
Corporal
Mike
Raymond
Mike
Raymond
was
a
correctional
officer
back
in
1999
who
was
shot
in
the
line
of
duty
and
became
a
deputy
and
God
bless
him.
He
retired
after
27
years
of
service
with
the
county
and
he's
questioning
why
we
would
have
a
retirement
party
for
him.
C
L
L
G
J
K
K
K
E
I,
just
the
last
few
I
I
just
saw
the
committee
realizes
these
are
things
that
are
parts
of
bids
that
have
been
out
there
and
we've
went
through,
except
for
the
Crestron,
which
was
from
the
manufacturer,
via
the
only
authorized
distributor
which
was
given
that
exemption
for
bidding
by
the
by
Dent
of
that
supply
chain
after
consultation
with
the
State's
Attorney's
office.
So
I
I
just
don't
quite
understand
the
thought
process.
E
We've
already
bid
out
and
provided
bid
documents
why
the
auditor
would
not
have
to
be
able
to
walk
into
our
office
at
11
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
or
in
the
morning.
Excuse
me
and
just
ask
for
those
documents,
even
though
he's
not
here
all
day.
We
know
that
he
could
have
his
employee
do
that,
but
he
doesn't
do
that
as
well,
so
I,
just
just
so
there's
some
context
to
all
this
Ridiculousness
here.
E
Okay,
but
they
have
a
dedication
to
the
public
and
they're
here
every
day
they
don't
screw
the
taxpayer
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
by
being
out
there
working
another
job,
when
you
should
be
here
and
then
taking
shots
at
not
what
people
are
buying,
not
how
they're
buying
things
but
that
they,
he
doesn't
agree
with
their
decision
to
run
their
Department
the
way
that
they
want
to
run.
It
that's
offensive
and
that's
not
why
he
was
elected.
K
E
You
have
talked
to
Tom
about
this.
You
have
to
have
somebody
evaluate
grants
again,
if
you
were
to
talk
to
people
pick
up
the
phone
I
also
find
it
pretty
funny
that
it
says
not
legible,
not
legible,
as
the
notes
on
the
auditor's
rejections,
and
we
have
asked
him
in
writing
to
provide
his
objections
in
writing,
because
we
can't
read
his
objections
because
they're
allow
illegible
illegible.
Excuse
me
easy
for
me
to
say
so
again
he's
asking
us
to
do
what
he's
himself
refused
to
do.
Thank
you.
C
K
E
Wheeler
yeah
Mr,
chairman
I
I,
just
wanted
to
call
in
one
of
the
worst
Parts
about
the
financial
state
that
the
county
was
in
before
and
Steve
knows.
This
is
that
we
had
a
lot
of
local
vendors
who
we
were
unintentionally
using
as
a
bank
we
weren't
paying
them
for
sometimes
of
180
days.
This
reptile
is
from
the
owner
in
the
the
company
is
in
moments
it's
a
local
company
that
we
unnecessarily
held
their
money.
The
state's
attorney
asked
for
it
to
be
released
because
it
was
part
of
I
believe
was
part
of
a.
E
K
Yeah,
this
is
specifically
for
the
bond
payoff
or
the
the
cash
to
seasons.
Is
the
official
title
for
Series
2009
that
payment
will
go
out,
September
12th,
so
we're
just
trying
to
make
sure
we
keep
the
timing
of
the
budget
amendment
with
that
payment.
There
will
be
another
general
fund
budget
amendment
we've
brought
back
earlier
than
expected
the
arfo
some
of
the
arpa
salaries
and
stuff,
because
the
pandemic
ended
and
then
there's
also
more
activity
with
the
higher
bed.
Rental.
K
K
As
deputy
director
Wells
mentioned
in
public
comment,
we
did
do
a
audit
of
the
first
33
333
to
kccsi
for
the
housing
program
they
have
expended
all
of
it,
which
shows
the
need
in
our
community
everything
checked
out
perfectly
Cindy
from
our
office
went
there
and
they
provided
everything
that
was
requested,
and
everything
is
looks
good.
So
we
would
recommend
the
second
of
three
payments
of
the
33
000
333
to
go
for
the
next
payment
for
the
housing
program
at
committee,
desires.
C
I
I
moved
to
approve,
and
it
kind
of
shows
you
the
oversight
that
this
Administration
and
what
Mr,
McCarty
and
chairman
wheeler
and
and
I
like
to
apply
the
efforts
of
the
evaluation
team
for
their
due
diligence
for
vetting.
Amending
the
leading
the
various
proposals
that
were
submitted
and
that's
from
motion
and
comment.
E
I
do
want
to
thank
the
the
professionalism
of
the
staff
for
kind
of
knowing
the
drill
how
to
handle
a
grant
and
really
managing
it.
Well,
on
their
end
of
things
is
I.
Think
Steve
would
agree.
Everything
was
probably
very
buttoned
up
when
it
got
to
our
doorstep,
so
to
speak
so
back
to
them.
Thanks
for
that
very.
A
M
It
says
some
of
you
may
know
we
have
Ada
issues
that
we've
been
working
through
at
the
courthouse.
This
is
another
one
of
them,
so
basically,
this
proposal
from
Bright
architecture
is
to
ready
the
product
project
for
construction,
everything
related
to
the
project
for
from
drawings,
architectural
plans,
engineering
handling,
the
bidding
handling,
all
the
communications
with
the
contractors
Etc,
so
a
similar
proposal
from
Bright
architecture,
as
we've
had
in
the
past
for
this
project.
F
E
E
Through
them
and
I'm
like
I,
didn't
remember,
yeah
didn't
want
to
have
that
come
back
on
us,
so
we
have
another
recommended
and
it's
the
final
Social
Service
proposal
that
remains,
except
for
the
ones
that
were
tabled
pending
further
information
review
additions.
Whatever
that
group
of
proposals.
This
is
the
last
one
that
we
had
in
our
hands.
E
It
was
from
the
Helen
wheeler
Center
for
Community
Mental,
Health
and
the
while
they're
Jackie
could
not
be
here
today.
She
will
be
here
if
this
goes
forward
for
the
full
board
approval,
but
the
the
basic
thought
process
that
they
had
behind
this
was
was
to
the
the
mental
health
tax
that
was
put
out
to
the
community.
That
was
obviously
not
a
County
Board
thing.
It
was
the
mental
health
community
and
those
folks
it
did
not
pass
the
the
public
resoundingly
said.
E
E
So
if
we
are
going
to
address
a
major
cost
driver
for
the
County,
it
would
be
the
mental
health
interactions
with
the
system
and
I
will
call
that
it's
not
just
criminal
justice,
even
though
that's
mostly
what
we
do
so
it
would
be
to
support
all
of
those
different
things
and
it's
within
the
packet,
but
also
it
would
allow
some
residual
time.
Let's,
let's
I'll
use
this
as
an
example,
we
need
to
have
mental
health
first
aid
training
and
we
probably
have
it
I-
would
imagine
at
various
points
without
at
our
Continuum
services.
E
But
we
need
to
have
that
Mental,
Health,
First
Aid
training
throughout
County
government
to
recognize
and
be
able
to
deal
with
it,
but
then
that's
not
every
hour
of
every
day.
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
to
have
that
person
go
out
and
work
with
school
districts
and
businesses
and
other
offices
in
the
community
to
fill
out
their
time.
E
This
is
going
to
kind
of
proliferate
throughout
the
community,
but
the
main
goal
is
to
use
these
funds
to
help
reduce
the
cost
and
the
burden.
People
Time
treasure
and
really
help
the
people
that
are
that
are
becoming
in
contact
with
our
systems,
whether
it's
prosecution,
defense
incarceration
skill,
sets
everything
else
that
they
they
may
interact
with
the
county
on.
E
E
24
it's
going
to
be
like
a
year
and
a
half
is
the
way
that
I
look
at
it
just
by
the
way
it
would
get
rolled
out.
So,
okay,
the
measurement
period
is
kind
of
TBD
will
start
once
because
here's
the
problem,
you
can't
find
people
to
work
in
this
area.
You
know
we've
got
like
40
50
providers
here
that
that
do
mental
health,
but
there's
only
a
couple
that
have
a
waiting
list
that
are
shorter
than
months.
They
don't
have
the
people
to
actually
see
people.
E
N
E
C
Chairman
just
to
reiterate
and
piggyback
on
what
chairman
wheeler
indicated
and
articulated
you
know,
I
I
take
pride
in
in
serving
with
the
evaluation
team.
As,
as
chairman
wheeler
indicated,
there
was
not
carte
blanche
approval,
as
we
appeared
through
the
various
proposals
vetting
amending
the
leading
amending
these
particular
proposals.
So
you
know
what
I
appreciate
and
having
talked
with
Jackie
and
and
to
dovetail
on
what
chairman
wheeler
indicated.
C
We
can't
compete
with
some
of
the
employers
up
north
and,
as
a
consequence
of
that,
you
know
we
lose
a
talent
pool
to
our
neighbors
to
the
north,
so
I
think
from
talking
with
Jackie.
This
will
help
us
secure
qualified
individuals
to
provide
these
much
needed
Services.
As
a
chairman
wheeler
indicated
when
you
think
in
terms
of
of
the
state,
in
terms
of
what
they've
done
regarding
Mental,
Health,
Services
and
so
forth.
C
Having
worked
in
this
for
the
State
Department
of
Human
Services,
you
think
in
terms
of
them
closing
down
all
the
different
facilities
one's
in
champaigns
one's
in
in
Decatur
Tinley,
Park,
Mental,
Health
Center
at
Manteno,
Mental,
Health,
Center,
Ohio,
Developmental
Center.
Instead
of
improving
the
service
delivery
system,
I
think
you
know
we
need
to
do
something
locally,
to
take
care
of
the
Abyss
that
that's
present
in
terms
of
Mental
Health
Services.
C
A
G
C
K
E
And
so
just
so
everybody
knows
Moody's.
We
would
be
like
a
triple
A,
but
they
always
comment
on
the
stability
of
revenue
streams
and
there's
only
really
one
place.
Government
usually
gets
revenue
from
and
that's
taxes.
We
actually
do
things
a
little
different
here.
It's
fee
based
and
bed
rental,
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
what
they're
commenting
on
the
fact
that
that
is
a
volatile
situation
and
I'm,
not
saying
anything
that
we
don't
know.
So
you
know
we
can't
always
count
on
it.
That's
why
we
plan
very
well
foreign.
A
N
A
N
N
A
E
N
A
C
M
All
right,
so
the
proposal
from
PSI
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
there
is
for
the
old
jail.
Some
of
you
may
recall
we
power
washed
the
old
jail
several
months
ago
now.
Looks
terrific,
however,
built
in
1973.
The
Limestone
on
that
building
is
in
disrepair
the
everything
from
the
third
floor
to
the
to
the
ground
level.
M
The
windows
there's
multiple
cracks
on
the
facility,
so
we
had
PSI
take
a
look
at
this
and
do
a
cursory
inspection
on
it
I
think
last
year
they
did
that
performed
it
and
through
conversations
with
the
my
committee
chairman
wheeler,
we
thought
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
engage
PSI
as
a
manager
of
the
project.
As
I
said,
it's
three
stories
in
height
someone's
going
to
have
to
get
up
there
inspect
the
work.
That's
performed
provide
a
lot
of
General
conditions
for
the
site,
dumpsters
porta
potties
Etc.
M
So
this
is
what
that
proposal
is
for,
and
I
passed
around
at
my
committee.
Various
photos
of
the
building
that
shows
substantial,
cracking
throughout
the
facility
on
all
four
elevations
like
I,
said
it's
not
just
the
windows
I
mean
every
joint
that
a
lot
of
the
joints
on
the
building
the
clock
has
now
come
out
of
them.
You
can
actually
feel
airflow
coming
out
of
the
building
with
some
of
the
cracks.
So
it's
something
that
you
know
if
we're
going
to
continue
to
operate
the
facility.
M
A
E
The
it
was
arpa
when
we
we
were
thinking
it
might
be
a
you
know,
a
a
300
000
project,
we're
you
know
just
on
the
napkin.
Would
it
be
appropriate
if
we
solicit
bids,
we
get
the
bids
back
and
then
we
make
a
determination
where
we're
going
to
allocate
from
because
we
have
to
approve
the
bids
and
then
we
could
do
the
allocation
at
that
time.
Yeah
are
you?
Okay,
with
that
Steve
yeah.
C
E
That,
okay
with
the
committee
that
we
open
bids
and
then
we
determine
where
the
funding
source
is
because
we
really
Harper's
kind
of
done
we're
using
that
for
other
infrastructure
purposes.
So,
but
we
could
use
it.
We
just
should
probably
determine
what
that
is
when
the
money
we
know
what
it
is,
how
can
you
allocate,
which
you
don't
know
what
it.
A
A
O
O
Try
to
keep
this
brief,
but
I
just
want
to
show
you
on
the
left
hand
side,
if
you,
if
you
see
the
the
spreadsheet
that
I
prepared
for
you
the
left
hand,
side
shows
what
the
current
cost
is,
which
is
going
to
be
like,
like
I,
said
again
through
March
31st
of
2024..
Currently,
the
property
tax
software
cost
is
52,
970
and
and
51
cents.
O
April
1st,
July,
1st,
October,
1st
and
January
1st
also
part
of
the
cost
is
a
personal
scanning
module
that
my
department
uses
and
they
charge
eighteen
hundred
and
seventy
six
dollars
and
five
cents
for
the
year
for
that
module.
Now
moving
into
the
next
contract,
devnet
is
going
to
start
Char.
The
biggest
difference
is
devnet
is
going
to
start
charging
us
for
something
that
they
haven't
charged
us
before,
and
what
that
is
is
the
wedge
site
that
is
used
by
the
treasurer,
mostly
the
treasurer,
but
some
the
county
clerk.
O
We
really
had
caught
a
break,
they
never
they
never
charged
us
for
it.
They
now
want
to
put
an
additional
fifteen
hundred
dollars
for
a
year
on
for
that
service
and
they're,
also
increasing
the
the
cost
of
the
property
tax
software
by
one
and
a
half
percent
per
year
through
the
five-year
term
of
the
contract.
So
if
you
look
at
it
side
by
side,
you
know
the
current
cost
versus
what
will
be
in
from
April
1st
of
24
through
March
31st
to
25.
O
O
A
A
L
L
Most
all
municipalities
in
the
county
have
black
cameras.
We
all
have
access
to
each
other's
cameras
as
well.
They
have
been
instrumental
in
a
number
of
criminal
activity
being
solved
by
various
municipalities
as
well,
and
what
this
contract
does
for
us
is.
It
just
saves
US
money.
It
keeps
it
at
the
original
price
as
opposed
to
an
increase,
and
we
would
just
like
to
stretch
it
out
to
five
years
right
now.
L
A
A
G
I
would
like
to
increase
the
drug
pay
for
our
election
judges.
Currently,
our
election
judges
are
paid.
If
we
have
five
judges
working
a
Precinct
160.
If
we
only
have
three
judges
working
at
precinct,
we
pay
them
200.
There
is
legislation
that
was
passed
this
year
by
the
general
assembly
and
signed
by
the
governor
that
allows
for
an
additional
twenty
dollars
to
be
reimbursed
to
the
counties
for
election
judge
pay.
I
would
like
to
increase.
G
The
election
judge
pay
to
225
dollars
per
election,
regardless
of
the
number
of
judges
based
on
that
in
2022.
My
election
judge
budget
was
a
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars.
So
assuming
that
we
have
five
judges
working
in
every
Precinct
in
all
59
precincts,
we
haven't
had
that
happen
in
the
longest
time.
Our
total
cost
for
2024
would
be
ninety
four
thousand
four
hundred
dollars.
G
There
are
some
additional
people
that
get
paid
out
of
that
election
judge
our
Precinct
coordinators,
our
judges
that
work
our
satellite
voting
but
I
can
absolutely
make
that
work
with
our
existing
budget
in
2025
or
in
2023.
Our
election
judge
budget
was
fifty
thousand
dollars
if
we
have
a
primary
election
and
we're
not.
We
didn't
have
a
primary
election
this
year,
but
most
likely
we'll
have
primary
elections
in
the
odd
years
going
forward.
G
G
It
would
be
forty
seven
thousand
two
hundred
dollars,
which
would
be
the
cost
of
fifty
four
thousand
four
hundred
dollars,
which
is
four
thousand
dollars.
Forty
four
hundred
dollars
more
than
what
we
were
budgeted
this
year,
but
again
I
can
guarantee
you
that
we
do.
We
will
not
have
five
judges
working
in
59
polling
places.
C
G
G
Classes
can
be
done,
we're
trying
to
get
encourage
our
judges
to
take
online
training
classes,
and
they
can
do
that
at
their
own
pace
in
their
own
time.
We
do
have
training
classes,
we've
held
them
here.
We've
had
them
held
them
at
Satellite.
Locations
to
those
classes
are
usually
about
three
hours.