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From YouTube: Highways & Waterways Committee Meeting 12/22/2022
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Highways & Waterways Committee Meeting 12/22/2022 9:00am
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Everybody
in
favor
signify,
I,
say
aye
aye.
Anybody
opposed
the
same
sign.
Okay,
scaries
next
will
be
some
presentations.
We
have
two
very
exciting
presentations
for
today.
The
first
one
is
going
to
be
led
by
you
know:
Mr
Wheeler.
Here
the
chairman
wheeler
is
going
to
be
talking
about
the
first
one,
which
is
the
Yellow
River
Bank
civilization,.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
the
so
the
the
first
presentation
is,
is
let's
do
that
one?
Second,
please
we'll
do
this
one
here.
This
is
a
kickoff
to
the
committee,
so
the
the
new
members
understand
and
then
really
the
current
County
board
members
understand
the
why
we
put
waterways
in
this
committee
and
kind
of
moving
forward.
So
it's
Mr
chairman.
If
you
want
to
run
through
things
and
then
ask
me
to
jump
in
when
needed.
Is
that
sure.
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C
Oh
just
so
the
committee
knows
all
of
the
road
use
agreements
go
through
this
committee
and
then
Greg.
That's
why
he
hired
a
our
we
hired
a
a
a
legal
firm
to
represent
us
on
this
very
complex
issue,
correct
the
applicants
all
have
to
pay
for
those
lawyers
right
and,
if
we're
forgetting
something
great,
please
let
us
know
you
can
try
to
be
just
real
General
at
the
beginning.
That's
currently
what
we
do
with
highways
right
now,
right
yeah
for
the
most
part,
I'd
say
there
may
be
one
or
two
other
things.
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So
the
second
portion
of
or
the
other
part
of
this
committee
would
be
with
the
waterways
division.
Like
I
said
it's
going
to
be
also
together
with
under
the
highways
and
we're
going
to
do
some
of
the
work
to
actually
do
the
dredging
of
the
kinky
River
and
we're
gonna
try
to
work
very
very
hard,
and
this
is
not
something
that's
going
to
happen
overnight.
It's
going
to
take
time.
A
We
have
things.
You
know,
plans
in
place
already
for
clean
up
the
boat
launch
that
we're
going
to
be
having
in
Aroma
Park.
The
dredging
will
be
there,
one
million
dollars
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
it
comes
off
from
the
7
million.
Is
that
correct?
Mister?
No!
Is
that
a
separate
one,
separate?
Okay?
So
it's
in
addition
to
the
seven
million
correct
okay,
so
we
have
a
million
dollars
appropriation
that
was
via
the
senator.
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C
A
C
Does
everybody
know
where
that's
at
I
this
is
the
Aroma
Park
bridge
going
across
Ryan's
Pier
would
be
just
off
to
the
right
of
the
screen,
and
actually,
if
you
were
to
put
red
around
another
area,
it
would
be
going
forward
from
the
boat
launch
until
it
goes
back
into
the
channel.
That's
all
very
shallow
in
there
as
well.
A
C
It's
also
of
note
that
we
we
have
permission.
We
will
have
to
execute
an
agreement
in
this
committee
with
the
Kankakee
Valley
Park
District,
because
they're
going
to
allow
us
to
de-water
the
sand
on
site,
which
is
a
huge
step
because
then
you're
not
you're,
not
trucking
it
somewhere
to
sit
and
let
the
water
run
out
and
then
having
the
truck
at
somewhere
else.
So
we're
trying
to
we're
limited
on
the
amount
of
sand
we
can
get
out
only
by
the
million
dollars.
A
C
C
You
see
how
low
it
is
to
the
water
that
bridge
I
believe
used
to
be
over
17
over
the
river
by
Skeeters
Fisherman's
Wharf,
whatever
generation
you're
from
now
it's
what
is
it
Del
Mar
or
something
like
that?
It's
a
Mexican
restaurant,
but
it's
a
cow
catcher
for
trees.
That's
all
it
is.
Is
the
trees
coming
from
Indiana,
because
it's
so
low
over
the
water
and
it
puts
torsional
torsional
stress
on
the
on
the
bridge,
so
it
wants
to
push
it
in.
It's
also
The
Scrappers
love.
C
It
they've
taken
the
the
metal
off
of
it
so
every
day,
there's
less
Bridge
than
there
was
a
day
before
so,
just
as
a
you
can
flip
to
the
next
slide.
This
is
what
happens
over
time
and
this
this
can
happen
in
a
season.
The
Indiana
commission
that
we'll
talk
about
that
I'm
on
with
those
those
counties
in
Indiana,
along
with
Iroquois
County
and
Illinois,
we've
already
cleaned
this
out
twice.
C
The
state
line
and
they've
actually
come
around
to
the
Illinois
side
to
get
some
of
the
trees
out
of
there
as
well.
They
get
wedged
under
the
bridge.
This
becomes
a
real
problem
because
the
water
jets
around
these
little
jams
and
eats
the
shoreline
on
the
other
side
of
the
river
and
there's
Illinois
residents,
houses,
Kankakee
County
residence
house
is
right
there,
and
so
they
could
lose
10
feet
of
Shoreline
in
a
season.
C
If
this
happens
so
and
where
does
all
that
Silk
go
goes
right
into
the
river
goes
Downstream
and
clogs
up
other
stuff,
so
it
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
why
State
Line
Bridge
is
a
problem.
It
was
closed.
20
years
ago,
most
of
the
bridges
I
said
is
in
in
Lake
County,
but
there's
a
memorandum
of
understanding
to
repair
this
bridge
based
on
the
Federal
Highway
fixing
another
Bridge
just
down
from
this
okay.
So
we
as
a
county,
Newton
County,
Lake
County.
C
We
were
all
bound
to
the
second
agreement
to
fix
this
bridge,
but
here's
the
rub.
The
cost
to
reopen
was
estimated
to
be
about
two
million
dollars
to
go
in
there,
and
so
we
had
money
set
aside.
Greg
has
money
set
aside
for
our
part
of
that
we
have
a
percentage
of
that.
The
the
local
match
that
we're
paying
problem
is
is
when
they
did
the
bids.
C
They
came
came
in
well
over
10
million
dollars,
and
that
would
be
just
an
estimate
because
they
didn't
really
bid
the
approaches
to
this
bridge
which
are
underwater
about
six
months
of
the
year.
The
other
part
of
it
is
it's
eligible
eligible
to
be
preserved
historic,
so
it
can't
be
renovated
for
current
load
limits
for
safety
or
anything
else.
C
So
you
really
as
I
call
it
you're
in
a
cyclone
of
stupid
here
yeah
the
federal
government
keep
telling
us
to
do
a
bridge
that
can't
be
a
bridge
for
modern
vehicles,
because
it
can
only
be
restored
to
Historic
the
the
situation.
So
are
we
gonna
and
there's
what
I
think
phones
was
here?
He
tell
you
there's.
Maybe
four
houses
out
there
that
haven't
had
this
bridge-
maybe
five
ten
whatever,
but
they
haven't
had
this
bridge
for
20
years.
Public
Safety
goes
around.
C
It
goes
to
you
know,
41
and
comes
back
in
in
the
moment
side
of
things
up
there.
If
you're
going,
you
know,
that's
how
they're
dealing
with
it.
So
it's
really
unnecessary.
We
would
only
have
a
walking
bridge,
an
18
ATV
Bridge,
a
fishing
bridge
and
a
cow
catcher,
because
it
would
still
catch
all
the
trees
and
have
all
those
problems.
C
So
everybody's
opinion
is:
is
that
stupid
money
we
should
move
the
bridge
and
preserve
it
and
so
believe
it
or
not,
that
is
taking
up
steam
to
get
that
bridge
out
of
there
and
I.
Think
there'll
be
more
to
report
on
that.
Coming
up,
people
love
the
bridge,
but
they
don't
realize
how
bad
a
shape
it
is
in
people
like
fires
on
it
and
party
out
there,
it's
gonna
go
anytime,
yeah
anytime,
and
then
it's
our
problem,
so
that's
I've,
been.
C
This
has
been
going
on
the
background
for
about
about
what
five
or
six
years
now
we
just
can't
get
the
feds
off
of
you
have
to
fix
that
bridge.
Well
now
they
realize
that
every
day,
there's
less
bridge
to
preserve
it's
more
a
historic
issue
than
it
is
a
functional
issue
at
this
point,
so
we
can
move
on
from
this,
but
I
just
want
the
committee
to
understand
what
was
going
on
there.
Okay,
please
spend
time
with
this
website
fortunate
to
be
on
this
Commission
in
Indiana.
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C
Here
in
Illinois
for
now
so
through
these
eight
counties,
the
Indiana
Department
of
Natural,
Resources
and
advisors
and
I'm
and
I
mentioned
me
and
chairman
sure,
from
iroquoia
on
this,
they
coordinate
Implement
projects
for
the
long-term
viability
of
the
river,
the
Yellow
River
and
the
people
that
rely
on
them.
So
the
Indiana
legislature
funds
this
work
there
I
just
want
that
to
be
clear:
they
the
difference.
C
They
have
money,
they
have
an
organization,
we're
just
getting
started
and
we
have
very
little
of
both,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
committee
is
starting
to
plan
for
when
we
start
doing
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
to
be
able
to
use
our
River.
Because,
as
we'll
talk
about
later,
we
can't
we
can't
just
dredge
the
whole
river,
because
it'll
just
fill
back
in
with
sand.
This
is
a
50-year
process.
We
just
want
to
be
able
to
use
our
River
enjoy
it
be
a
good
Steward
of
it.
C
Until
the
time
comes,
we
can
fix
it
on
our
side
of
the
state
line
wholesale
and
the
money
becomes
available.
So
a
lot
of
we
heard
a
lot
back
in
when
the
the
Conservancy
out
in
Momence
ran
the
referendum
to
have
it
expand
all
the
way
through
the
county,
so
they
could
raise
money
to
fix
the
river.
We
heard
a
lot
that
people
did
not
think
there
was
a
plan.
C
But
the
key
is
that
part
of
that
dips
into
Illinois?
Basically,
they
we
Iroquois
County
paid
to
have
them
include
through
to
the
Confluence
of
the
Iroquois
and
the
Kankakee
River.
What
are
some
of
the
things
we
need
to
do
to
be
able
to
stabilize
the
banks
and
make
sure
you
know
we
don't
have
log
jams
that
are
adversely
affecting
ecosystems
or
whatever
else,
so
that's
all
in
there
and
then
what
type
of
zoning
and
planning
exercises
do
we
need
really
policies?
Do
we
need
to
implement?
C
So
we
don't
keep
building
houses
right
on
the
river
or
getting
upset
that
they
flood
out,
because
wow
Rivers
flood.
Imagine
that
so
and
they're
we're
getting
more
rain
than
we've
ever
received
in
his
recorded
history.
That's
not
something
that
can
be
debated.
Why
can't
be
debated,
but
that
water
is
going
into
a
ditch
and
coming
right
down
towards
moments
in
Aurora
Park,
so
we
got
some
work
to
do.
I
just
want
to
let
everybody
know.
C
C
They
have
to
be
Corps
of
Engineers.
Is
here's
a
good
indication
that
that
Kanki
and
Yellow
River
Basin
commission
they
have
an
open
permit
because
they
have
an
easement
on
each
side
of
the
river
to
just
take
trees
out
that
are
getting
ready
to
fall
into
the
river,
because
once
they're
in
the
river,
it
becomes
a
bigger
problem
like
what
we
see
in
Aroma
Park
that
started
from
what
I'm
told
with
a
massive
tree
that
fell
in
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
the
sand,
the
water
slows.
C
It
drops
the
sand
and
it
backs
up
so
I'm,
not
an
expert
here.
I've
just
been
talking
to
him
for
about
five
years,
making
sure
getting
versed
on
what
they're
they're
dealing
with
this
is
Indiana.
They
should
tell
you
a
lot
why
we
have
a
problem
here.
It's
like
an
iceberg
of
sand
every
time
it
rains
it
calves
in
sand
into
the
water,
and
so
this
is
what
they're.
This
is
one
of
the
main
strategies
they
have
in
Indiana.
Is
we've
got
to
solve
this
immediately
to
keep
the
sand
out?
C
Then
it
can
be
a
river
because
it's
going
to
flood
it's
going
to
go
over
its
bank,
but
it's
not
taking
all
the
sand
with
it.
That's
the
key,
and
if
you
flip
again,
it's
just
incredible
to
kind
of
work.
You
see
the
root
balls
sticking
out
there
on
the
bottom.
That's
they've,
driven
that
whole
tree
into
there
and
they're
building
tables
of
trees
to
hold
everything
in
place,
and
it's
working
and
it's
it's
lasting
for
years.
You
know
so
keep
going.
This
is
another
one
here.
Access
is
a
big
problem
in
Kankakee
County.
C
You
see
that
truck
on
the
one
on
the
left.
Well,
you
can't
get
any
past
that
in
Indiana
This
is
Indiana.
We
don't
even
have
those
roads
here,
we'd
love
to
have
them,
but
this
is
what
they
do.
Is
they're
they're
sloping
their
back,
putting
type
of
netting
rip,
wrap
or
appropriate
and
doing
it
the
right
way,
instead
of
just
throwing
rock
down,
which
creates
little
Eddy
jets
that
dig
out
more
sedimentation
to
make
the
problem
worse.
So
we
can
keep
going.
This
is
a
massive
project.
C
I
believe
this
was
in
Stark
County
on
the
Yellow
River.
That's
where
most
of
the
sand
load
comes
from
well,
40
percent
of
the
sand
loads
that
goes
Downstream
comes
from
the
yellow
so
that
we
started
there
in
Indiana.
You
see
the
differences
that
we're
looking
at
and
keep
flipping
I'll
try
to
speed
up
a
little
now
down.
This
is
a
video
down
in
the
corner.
If
you
would
hit
play
if
you
kind
of
mouse
over
this
kind
of
shows
you
the
scope
and
really
scale
of
some
of
this
stuff.
C
C
They
pulled
no,
they
pulled
it
back.
It
was
straight
up
and
down
or
45
should
I
say
and
they
pulled
it
back
and
then
covered
it.
On
the
other
side,
they
did
it
more
pronounced
yeah
hydroseed
that
yeah
and
then
you
see
on
the
right
side
there
of
the
screen.
That's
going
all
the
way
down
towards
the
bridge.
You'll
see
that
from
another
view,
but
that
was
really
peeled
back,
because
that
was
almost
a
straight.
You
know
45.,
so
you
can
move
on
to
the
next
one.
C
So
with
this
committee
we
created
the
waterways
division.
We
have
a
seven
million
dollar
appropriation
from
Senator
Joyce.
The
the
thought
was
is
invest
in
the
equipment
that
enhances
access
to
and
enjoyment
of
the
river,
as
mentioned,
but
do
the
work
out
of
the
highway
department,
because
we
do
have
the
local
150
Operating
Engineers
there
they
do
have.
If
it
gets
really
complex,
they
do
have
an
Aquatics
division
of
150
that
can
be
accessed
if
we
need
to.
But
you
know
we
why
go
chase
money
project.
C
We
could
spend
the
seven
million
and
get
one
project
done
because
we're
paying
for
the
labor
and
all
that.
Why
not
invest
in
the
equipment
to
to
maintain
the
river,
as
we
said
until
the
Big
Fix
can
happen,
15
20,
30
years
down
the
road.
We
can
begin
that
process
because
you
got
to
stop
the
sand
from
Indiana,
first
or
else
you're
just
throwing
money
away
here
by
wholesale,
getting
the
sand
out,
because
it's
going
to
fill
back
in
six
months.
Maybe
you
know
so
in
certain
spots.
C
Let's
see
here,
remove
the
sediment
from
the
the
boat
launches,
stabilize
Banks,
remove
log
jams.
Strategic
maintenance
is
the
key
and
it's
we're
just
not
going
to
go
chase
down.
You
know
people's
dock
on
the
river.
You
know
they,
but
you
know
that's
if
it
gets
away
from
them
now.
If
it
becomes
a
hazard,
it's
getting
ready
to
take
something
else
out.
Then
we
would
probably
address
that
so
utilize.
C
The
40-year
work
plan
to
address
our
side
of
the
state
line
as
funding
permits
and
plan
for
2024
in
this
committee
for
the
appropriation
to
you,
know
the
budget
to
be
able
to
execute
and
and
purchase
that
needed
equipment
and
start
getting
the
ball
rolling.
So
let's
this
we're
starting
this
now
don't
expect
us
to
be
making
major
decisions,
but
we're
going
to
need
to
figure
out
what
we're
going
to
appropriate
in
2024,
what's
necessary
for
the
highway
department
to
be
able
to
do
some
of
these
things.
Yes,.
A
C
It's
key
is,
is
also
don't
forget:
it's
not
just
sand
from
Indiana.
The
Iroquois
river
is
a
much
worse
problem
after
it
gets
into
the
Kankakee
there's
much
more
volume
of
water
and
the
sediment
load
is
massive
of
silt.
So
Wilmington
is
probably
the
one
area
that'll
be
happiest
for
us
to
help
to
fix
this
stuff,
because
they're
going
to
be
underwater
down
the
road
I
mean
most
Engineers
predict
that
they're
and
they're
staring
down.
They
say
the
barrel
of
the
gun,
okay,
so
so
yeah,
if
we've
flipped
I,
don't
know.
C
If
we
have
another
slide
here
or
not
this
get.
You
can't
really
see
this,
but
the
one
on
the
right
is
an
amphibious
excavator,
so
you
got
get
out
into
the
water.
You
can
put
different
attachments
on
it.
Grab
a
tree
cut
it
off.
You
know
some
of
the
equipment
we'll
talk
about.
You
can
shove
that
whole
tree
into
a
shredder
and
Shred
the
whole
tree,
and
so
you
don't
have
all
of
this
carried
them
around
back
to
your
yard,
Greg
and
then
shredding
them
over
there.
C
You
can
do
them
on
site
which
saves
money,
but
also
there's
some
of
these
Sand
Filtration
and
sediment
systems
that
you
can
put
on
the
bottom
of
the
river
or
a
major
feeder
into
the
river
like
a
Singleton,
ditch,
or
something
like
that.
If
it's
agreed
upon
in
an
engineering
sense
that
it's
appropriate
we're
going
to
keep
all
those
doors
open
and
really
go.
Look
under
any
solution.
Look
look
for
any
solution.
We
could
find
that
is
viable.
C
So,
but
those
are-
and
you
can't
really
see
this-
but
we
have
a
preliminary
excuse
me
preliminary
list
of
equipment
that
will
be
added
to
we're,
also
going
to
work
with
the
Conservancy
out
there,
because
they're
going
to
need
some
equipment
to
do
work
on
their
side
of
it
either
you
want
to
Pontoon
so
they're
they
in
order
for
the
the
dceos
regulations
to
be
met.
There
have
to
be.
C
You
know
bids
on
stuff
like
that,
so
we
need
it's
a
custom
build
for
what
they
want
to
do,
I'm
asking
them
to
add
a
hydro
Cedar
on
it,
so
we
can
just
give
them
seed
and
you
know
maybe
funds
for
gasoline
and
they
go
hydroseeds
and
banks
for
us
that
that
would
be
a
nice
opportunity
for
them
in
their
part
of
the
river
that
they
legislatively
have
dominion
over,
which
is
basically
moments
all
the
way
to
the
state
line.
That's
their
stretch.
C
F
C
C
C
The
first
projects
we
we
decided
to
tackle
were
the
major
sediment
contributors
into
the
Kankakee
and
when
I
say
we
meeting
the
Indiana
commission,
Kankakee
River,
Basin,
Yellow,
River,
Basin
development,
Commission
to
any
acronym
letters,
so
45
degree
sandbank,
you
see
it
on
the
right,
December
2020..
We
flip
to
the
next
one:
that's
facing
west,
the
same
spot,
basically
and
look
what
it's
become.
2021.
C
And
East
so
again
reducing
the
amount
of
material
coming
into
the
river.
That's
what
we
are
should
be
high-fiving
everybody
around
us
about
they're.
Finally,
addressing
this
whole
idea
that
you
know
the
state
line
that
the
river
doesn't
stop
and
become
something
else.
You
know
what
I
mean
it
still
keep.
It
comes
down
to
us,
so
this
is
Stark
County,
so
the
next
one
you
see
kind
of
what
they're
doing
there.
This
is
the
Benoit
property.
This
one
is
kind
of
strange,
so
there
it
is
now
back
up.
C
One
house
is
getting
ready
to
fall
through
the
woods
into
the
water
and
then
now
look
at
it
to
save
the
house,
save
the
shoreline
and
it's
not
feeding
any
more
sediment
or
at
least
as
much
sediment
into
the
to
the
river.
You
should
also
remember
that
ever
since
the
glaciers
receded,
there's
been
sediment
coming
this
way,
it's
just
coming
in
big
big
loads.
Now,
when
we
have
a
big
rain,
so
here's
another
one,
Stark
County,
it's
the
project
site.
That's
a
before
this
is
the
m
Bend
this
one's
really
pronounced.
C
It's
just
amazing.
The
the
amount
of
work
that
is
done
and
reclaiming
trees
to
use
as
part
of
the
project
is
also
kind
of
a
cool
aspect
to
this
there's
Marshall
County-
and
this
is
the
last
slide
it's
working,
because
it's
it's
all
that
stuff
is
staying
in
place
so
after
a
year.
So
as
those
plants
grow
up,
that's
better
for
us,
you
know
to
keep
that
stuff
in
place.
So
that's
what
I
had
as
far
as
I
think
that
was
the
last
slide.
So.
F
F
F
F
Okay,
are
you
all
able
to
see
the
slides?
Yes,
yes,
okay,
yep,
perfect!
Well,
we're
calling
this
Aroma
Park
boat,
launch
dredging
design
project
and
essentially
Andy's
already
outlined
the
need
for
the
project.
The
the
Aroma
Park
boat
launch
is
used
for
access
to
the
Waterway
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
from
the
fire
department
and
other
entities.
F
So
it's
critical
that
that
boat
launch
be
clear
for
for
both
operations
and
currently
it's
it's
very
sedimented
in
with
all
the
sand,
and
so
we
have
started
a
study
of
the
project.
We've
collected
data
in
the
area,
topographic
data
and
I'll
go
through
that
and
then
we're
working
on
an
initial
design,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
the
surveying
and
also
the
initial
design
where
what
our
plan
is
at
least
as
of
today.
F
So
we
have
some
objectives,
which
is
just
a
free
sentiment
from
the
boat
ramp
and
the
launch
area
at
Aroma
Park
to
allow
for
free
boat
passage
Downstream
and
to
remove
noxious
sand
sediment
between
the
park
in
an
island
which
is
in
the
middle
of
the
Kankakee
River
in
the
media
area,
both
upstream
and
downstream,
of
the
boat
launch.
So
we'll
show
you
this
area
in
the
coming
slides
and
basically
the
design
process
for
getting
the
site
cleared
for
for
conducting
The
Dredge
operation
is,
is
four
four
steps.
F
So
we
are
through
step,
one
which
is
we.
We
performed
a
site
observation
and
a
few
of
our
staff
members.
Technical
staff
went
out
with
Andy
on
a
few
months
back
and
we
were
able
to
make
some
side
observations,
and
then
we
returned
to
the
site
with
a
bathymetric
design
or
a
bathymetric
equipment
Team,
and
they
were
able
to
get
soundings
off
the
bottom
of
the
river
and
get
GPS
elevation
points
from
the
sand
that
is
accumulated
in
the
area
where
we're
proposing
to
dredge.
F
F
The
next
phase
of
that
would
be
early
next
year
this
coming
year,
2023.
We
want
to
get
a
permitting
effort
and
coordination
going
with
state
and
federal
agencies,
so
this
would
include
Illinois
Department
of
Natural
Resources,
Illinois
EPA
and
the
US
Army
Corps
anytime,
you
dredge
out
of
a
river
system.
F
So
I
would
like
to
say
that
my
initial
estimate
would
be
that
the
the
design
process
and
permitting
process
will
go
early
next
year
in
23
and
then
late
spring
very
early
summer.
You
can
expect
to
get
bid
in
construction
operation
to
start
conducting
the
actual
dredging
and
sediment
removal
and
and
for
the
amount
of
sediment
we're
talking
about.
I'll
go
over
that
a
little
bit
more
later
in
the
slides,
but
this
will
probably
be
a
three
to
four
month
type
of
operation.
It's
not
a
tremendous
amount
of
sediment.
F
So
that's
kind
of
the
outline
of
the
the
process
and
we
here's
a
aerial
photo
of
the
site
that
we
were
able
to
shoot
with
a
it's,
a
high
resolution,
drone
image
and
that
was
collected
in
this
fall
and
what
it
shows
you
is
the
current.
You
know
basically
the
current
state
of
the
area
around
the
boat
launch,
so
you
can
see
the
boat
launch
up
in
the
North
part
of
the
image
and
then
I've
I've
areaed,
a
kind
of
blocked
out
in
yellow
there.
What
I
call
the
blocking
Sandbar.
F
So
that's
the
main
obstruction
to
getting
out
of
the
boat
launch.
Is
this
large
sand
bar?
But
then,
in
addition
to
that,
even
Beyond,
The
Sandbar,
you
have
quite
a
bit
of
accumulated
sediment
and
then
we
did
observe
there
is
a
deeper
pool
on
the
left
side
of
the
image
there.
That
is
something
that's
working
pretty
well
with
the
existing
reverse
system.
So
we
believe
that
area
can
be
targeted
to
connect
to
for
getting
a
boat
launch
path.
F
If
you
will,
because
it's
already
a
deeper
water
area,
so
there's
two
cross
sections
that
are
marked
on
this
image.
One
in
red
and
one
in
yellow,
which
Mark
the
beginning
of
the
kind
of
the
beginning
of
the
boat
launch
and
then
the
very
end
of
this
island
on
the
downstream
side,
the
red
cross
section
is
is
in
this
slide
here,
and
what
you
can
see
is
that
you
have
a
very
shallow
pool
on
the
right
side
of
the
cross
section
where
you're
getting
trapped.
F
You
know
basically
there's
inches
of
water
there.
If
even
that
and
have
this
massive
Sandbar
trapping
the
boat
launch.
That
area
is
where
we
want
to
Target
and
bringing
that
Sand
Bar
down
from
an
elevation
of
around
598,
bringing
it
down
to
match
more
of
the
channel
Center
elevation.
So
if
you
look
at
the
far
left
part
of
the
cross
section,
you
can
see
that
the
channel
Center
that's
further
out
into
the
Kankakee,
is
around
590
three
to
four
and
so
there's
you
know.
F
594
to
598
represents
about
three
to
four
feet
of
sediment
that
can
be
removed
in
that
Target
Sandbar
area
and
then
we'll
look
at
the
cross
section.
That's
Downstream
that
yellow
cross
section
that
spans
the
entire
River
just
Downstream.
So
it
captures
both
the
channel
on
the
south
side
of
the
island
and
the
channel
under
the
north
side
of
the
island,
and
something
you
can
see
with
that
is
that
the
channel
on
the
right
side,
where
the
boat
launch
is,
is
a
lot
higher
right.
C
F
The
island
itself
right,
thank
you,
that's
correct,
yeah
and
then
going
on.
This
is
a
the.
This
is
the
result
of
the
bathymetric
data
that
we
collected
when
we
were
out
there
in
the
fall,
and
it
was
very
useful
to
us
and
what
we're
using
for
our
the
basis
for
our
design,
so
the
597
598
elevations,
you
can
see,
are
up
close
to
the
boat
ramp.
F
I
do
think
it's
important
to
come
back
to
a
statement
that
chairman
wheeler
made,
which
is
we
can't
dredge
the
whole
river.
It
will
fill
back
in
with
sand.
So
I
do
think.
One
of
the
things
that
we
can
talk
about
is
that
there's
a
whole
bounding
area
between
the
island
and
the
the
boat
ramp,
and
we
know
what
you
know.
We
want
to
take
out
as
much
sand
as
we
can
to
make
it
navigable,
but
we'll
be
strategic
with
how
we
remove
that
sand
and
I'll
show
an
initial
thought.
F
But
basically
you
need
an
area.
That's
you
know.
You
want
to
create
a
shallow
removal
to
remove
sediment
across
the
entire
Channel
between
the
island
and
the
boat
launch,
but
we
want
to
keep
a
deeper
area.
That's
specifically
a
you
know,
a
channel
that
the
the
boats
will
have
about
two
to
three
feet
at
least
of
depth
in
a
low
water
condition.
So
that's
our
design
Target
is
to
try
to
get
at
least
two
to
three
watt:
a
feet
of
water
in
a
low
water
condition.
F
I'll
go
back
to
the
cross
section
just
to
let
you
see
at
the
time
that
we
conducted
the
bathymetric
data
study.
We
found
the
river
level
was
around
596
and
a
half
that
low
water
condition
is
typical
for
The
Fall
season,
and
we
also
are
under
the
impression
that
it's
lower
than
normal,
due
to
an
inflatable
Dam
that
was
Downstream
that
failed
and
therefore
the
water
level
was
was
in
a
much
Lower
State
than
it.
F
It
usually
is,
but
but
that's
actually
good
for
our
purposes,
because
we
want
to
Target
the
worst
case.
So
the
worst
case
is
actually
what
we
shot,
which
is
around
596
and
a
half,
and
so
we
want
to
get
at
least
two
to
three
feet
in
that
deeper
Channel
go
back
to
our
approach,
so
this
aerial
shows
the
entire
area
between
the
island
and
the
park
on
the
North
side,
where
the
the
boat
ramp
is
in
area.
F
One
is
what
I
was
previously
calling
in
the
side
before
broad
removal,
so
I
think
it's
of
Interest
for
this
project
to
remove
a
good
amount
of
sediment
to
get
the
channel
on
the
north
side
of
the
island
equalized
with
the
south
channel
the
the
channel
running
on
the
south
side
of
the
island.
So
we
would
take
a
a
shallow
amount
of
sand,
maybe
one
to
two
feet
off
of
that
area.
F
One
and
then
area
two
will
Target
at
deeper
removal
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
boat,
a
continuously
clear,
deep
Channel,
that's
on
the
the
boat
ramp
side.
So
that's
the
the
thought
process,
at
least
so
far.
I
do
want
to
point
out
something
very
important
with
this
image
which
may
may
raise
a
question
is
there's
a
large
Sand
Bar
that
obviously
is
blocking
the
ramp.
F
Our
team
has
discussed
whether
or
not
it
would
be
to
the
benefit
of
the
area,
long
term
to
remove
the
entire
Sandbar
or
whether
to
do
a
partial
removal
of
The
Sandbar
and
the
reason
why
that's
important
to
discuss
is
because
it
deals
with
the
energy
of
the
Stream.
So
if
our
team,
after
further
discussion,
believes
if
you
remove
this
entire
Sandbar,
that
it
actually
will
be
long
term,
not
as
good
for
the
system,
because
when
you
force
water
or
when
you
have
water
across
a
wider
area,
it
has
less
energy.
F
So
it's
going
to
drop
out
more
sediment.
When
you
keep
it
in
a
more
contained
area,
you
actually
drive
the
energy
up,
which
will
be
more
self-maintaining
so
by
restricting
keeping
some
restriction
with
The
Sandbar,
keeping
a
little
bit
of
that
sandbar
in
place
on
the
North
side.
We
believe
that
will
be
to
the
benefit
of
the
boat
launch
for
the
long
term
long
term
only
because
it
Shields
the
boat
launch
from
further
sediment
accumulation
and
I'm
happy
to
explain
that
more.
C
Yes,
thanks
Mr
chairman
Charlie,
the
I
was
going
to
ask
about
that
I'm
glad
you
explained
it
so
I
guess
two
things
basically
you're.
Also
creating
another
boat
launch,
that's
out
of
the
current,
if
you
will,
which
makes
it
easier
for
people
to
get
their
boats
in
the
water
there,
because
there
is
only
one
other
location
on
the
river
that
I
know
of
that's
out
of
the
current
and
that's
the
one
in
Kankakee
at
Beckman.
So
that
would
be
a
benefit
as
well.
C
C
Keeping
things
moving
because
when
the
water
slows
that's
when
it
dumps
its
load,
yeah,
so
I
get
that
you
know
the
the
sediment
to
me.
It's
I
love
the
idea,
but
is
there
a
way
to
keep
it?
So
it's
I,
don't
know
more
permanent
if
you
will
to
lock
it
in
place.
So
it's
ever
it's
not
as
shifting
as
the
other
sandbars.
We
have.
F
F
Basically,
it
forms
a
v
kind
of
like
a
Chevron
type
shape
and
the
energy
is
directed
from
the
outside
of
the
channel
to
the
center
of
the
channel.
So
we
believe
it
might
be
of
benefit
to
create
one
or
two
of
these
type
of
cross
veins
right
in
the
area
of
the
you
know,
just
upstream
or
even
in
the
area
too,
to
keep
energy
shooting
through.
You
know
that,
just
like
you
use
that
garden
garden
hose
metaphor,
we
believe.
C
Great
thank
you
for
that
now,
also
associated
with
that
with
the
water
keeping
moving
around
that
side.
I
call
I'll
call
it
the
north
side
of
the
island.
Will
that
have
a
positive
impact
on
the
south
side
of
the
island
and
the
gigantic
Log
Jam.
That's
on
the
the
other
side
of
it,
which
I
I
question.
C
F
Okay,
yeah
I
do
think.
If
you're
able
you
know,
we
can
talk
whether
we
want
to
Direct
Energy
around
the
head
or
the
Upstream
toe
of
the
island.
That
may
have
some
benefit
there,
and
we
can.
We
run
modeling
quite
a
bit
in
our
firm
I
I.
Consider
it
one
of
our
strong
suits,
and
so
we
we
can
see
energy
wise
if
that's
going
to
have
any
benefit.
Upstream
I
do
think
it'll
equalize
things
with
that
South
channel.
F
That
runs
down
here,
which
you're
talking
about
and
I
think
as
far
as
log
jams
go
I
I
can't
speak
to
the
fact
that,
whether
that
you
know
whether
it's
going
to
prevent
log
jams
from
coming
in
but
I
do
think
if
you
are
able
to
create
a
more
energy
in
the
area
that
you
want
that
it'll,
you
know
it'll
prevent
log
jams
from
getting
stuck.
If
you
have
more
energy.
F
The
other
thing
that
folks
are
doing
in
river
systems
that
we
can
consider
doing
here
is
to
create
a
strategic
trap
area
for
Log
Jam
on
either
side
of
the
river.
If
you
want
to
capture
that
as
part
of
this
project,
essentially
you'd
stick
a
bar
out
or
a
riffle
and
it
will
in
the
low
energy
part
of
the
stream,
the
the
wood,
the
large
wood
will
collect
on
that
on
the
back
side
of
that
structure.
So
you
can
do
something
like
that.
F
We
would
Target
the
Upstream
end
of
the
sediment
room,
removal
at
that
particular
property
and
then
the
downstream
end
of
the
sediment
removal
would
be
the
downstream
end
of
the
island.
That's
that's
where
our
limits
of
work
are
right
now
and
then
adding
in,
as
we
discussed
a
couple
of
in-stream
features
or
towed
in
features
that
will
direct
the
energy
through
the
keeping
the
channel
clear
for
the
boats.
A
F
F
F
That
would
give
you
almost
about
feet
across
most
of
the
channel.
That
would
be
our
Target
during
the
low
water
condition.
Would
you
you
would
have
that
two
to
three
approaching
three
to
three
foot
range
of
of
water
depth,
which
would
accommodate
almost
any
type
of
boat
that
you're
going
to
use
out
on
that
side
we
have
been
told
that
there's
not
as
much
need
to
go
Upstream
of
the
islands
that
most
of
the
trafficking
to
get
out
would
go
Downstream.
A
Okay,
so
in
that
case,
it's
gonna
really
really
gonna
increase
navigation
quite
a
bit,
so
it's
going
to
improve
the
ability
for
both
to
navigate
on
a
little
area.
So
my
next
question
would
be
related
to
phase
three
that
you
presented
before
you
mentioned
that
you
in
phase
three,
you
gotta
be
in
communication
with
DNR
arm
core
engineering
right
correct.
Yes,.
F
We
for
the
most
part
when
we're
looking
at
a
project
of
this
type,
it's
going
to
be
an
environmental
impact
that
it
is
most
captured
by
agencies
in
terms
of
the
regulation.
So
there
aren't.
You
know,
for
example,
the
Coast
Guard
in
other
agencies
will
publish
guidance
on
depths
of
of
water,
that's
recommended
for
certain
vessel
types,
but
in
this
case
the
agencies
are
going
to
be
interested
in
what
environmental
impact
you
have
on.
F
F
F
And
then
I
didn't
really
have
too
much
else
to
present.
You
know
it
was
kind
of
getting
out
in
front
that
I
think
you
know
we
do
need
to
do
a
strategic
type
of
removal,
a
shallower
area
and
a
deeper
area,
possibly
add.
In
fact,
I
think
it
would
recommend
at
this
point
adding
in
a
couple
of
strategic
features
to
keep
that
area
deep.
F
You
end
up
around
this
area
and
we
may
be
able
to
get
this
number
a
little
bit
higher.
You
know
we're
not
taking
out
Sanders
to
take
it
out,
but
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
going
to
create
that
Target,
two
to
three
foot
of
standing
water
for
navigation,
and
you
should
end
up
with
around
eight
to
ten
thousand
cubic
yards
sand
sediment.
There
is
a
disposal
site
nearby
that
chairman
wheeler
has
been
in
discussions
and
beliefs
would
be
the
recipient
of
the
of
the
dredge
spoil.
F
If
you
will
we
do
another
thing
that
we
will
need
to
do
early
on
next
year
is
in
addition
to
presenting
our
preliminary
design
plan
to
agencies.
We
will
need
to
present
that
design
plan
to
the
Kankakee
Valley
Park
system
and
to
outline
a
specific
area
at
the
park
where
dredge
spoil
can
temporary
dredge
oil
can
be
deposited,
so
this
will
be
a
wide
rectangular
area
blocked
out
that
can
act
as
a
dewatering
pit.
C
F
It's
a
good
question,
so
I
think
we
will.
Additionally,
in
addition
to
presenting
the
preliminary
plan
to
the
park
and
the
agencies,
I
would
like
to
have.
You
know:
Consultants
oftentimes,
we
like
to
bounce
off
our
contractors
early
on
in
the
process.
I'm,
not
saying
that
locks
you
into
to
talk.
You
know,
choosing
any
contractor
up
front,
but
I'd
like
to
present
whether
this
is
going
to
be
a
hydraulic
removal
or
if
it's
going
to
be
a
combination
of
hydraulic
and
Long
Reach
excavation,
for
example,
with
the
amphibious
excavator
that
you
mentioned.
F
We
will
need
to
discuss
that
because
it
affects
the
price.
So,
for
example,
hydraulic
dredging
has
one
price
Associated
for
keep
per
cubic
yard
removal
where
they
are
basically
suctioning
off
sediment
from
the
bottom
and
then
you
know,
amphibious
excavation
removal
has
a
different
price
associated
with
it.
So
that's
one
part
of
the
cost,
but
the
other,
as
you
mentioned,
is
off
proposal.
F
I
do
think
you
know
we
tend
to
assign
something
like
15,
a
cubic
yard
for
hauling
off
site,
but
because
the
site
is
I
think
you
know
I
mentioned
nearby.
You
said:
what's
the
definition
of
that,
you
know
if
it's
15
to
20
miles
something
in
that
range,
that's
my
definition
of
nearby
if
they
have
to
go
50
or
100
miles
to
dispose
of
sand
and
you're
really
jacking
up
bison.
F
C
Maybe
we
want
to
stabilize
the
banks
in
those
area
too
for
a
long
term,
I
want
to
say
fix
of
just
that
zone
if
you
will
and
and
so
like
right
now,
I
don't
know
what
this
would
cost
and
and
what
his
estimate
is
and
on
the
work
he's
talking
about
here.
But,
let's
just
say
it's
eight
hundred
thousand
well,
then,
maybe
we
have
200
000
of
Bank,
stabilization
and
and
work.
We
can
do
on
that.
That
I'd
say
Remnant
piece
of
the
the
the
sand
blockage
and
that
we're
gonna
leave.
C
F
Put
it
yeah,
it
makes
perfect
sense
and
actually
I
do
want
to
give
you
some
what
I
call
back
of
the
envelope
math
okay.
So
if
you
I
work,
I'm,
currently
actually
working
with
a
big
lake
system,
that's
doing
a
dredge
operation
in
their
Lake.
The
awarded
contractor
had
15
to
20
dollars
per
cubic
yard
for
hydraulic
dredge
removal.
F
So
they
you
know,
that's
something
you
can
keep
in
the
back
of
your
head.
If
we
do
a
multiplayer
on
that
10
000
cubic
yards
for
a
twenty
dollar
rate,
you
know
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
approximately
you
know
a
chunk.
You
know
the
chunk
that
would
be
from
peer
dredging
That's,
not
including
other
things
like
you
know,
installing,
like
a
riffle
like
I,
was
talking
about
or
installing
a
cross
vein
or
or,
for
example,
the
bank
over
Bank
operation.
F
C
I
think
that's
the
best
news
we
possibly
could
get.
To
be
honest,
the
only
question
I
have
and
that
the
this
is
a
DNR
Grant,
but
they
still
operate
under
dco
rules.
Would
you
would
that
be
considered
a
bondable
addition?
Those
have
a
20-year
life,
these
Ripples
and
cross
veins,
and
things
like
that
was
that
something
that
we
could
tell
it
could
document
that
they
have
an
over
20-year
life,
which
makes
them
bondable,
which
is
eligible
for
this
grant.
F
G
G
Just
one
with
the
the
rate
of
inflation,
we
kind
of
I,
don't
say
guarantee,
but
assured
that
when
we
get
the,
if
these
bids
go
out
that
once
bidded
that
we
have
to
act
upon
them
and
not
I
want
to
find
myself
in
a
situation
like
the
high
school,
where
they
did
it.
By
the
time
the
project
came
out
because
of
the
cost
of
inflation.
They
were
like
ten
thousand
dollars
higher.
F
Yeah
and
that's
a
really
good
question
when
we
you
know
most
consulting
firms
that
work
on
designs.
The
engineers
like
to
go
high,
because
the
worst
thing
we
can
do
is
give
you
a
construction
cost,
and
then
it
blows
up
and
ends
up
being
more
than
what
we
said.
It
was
going
to
be
so
a
lot
of
times.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
build
in
a
contingency
of
something
like
10
10
to
20
or
10,
to
15
at
least
to
account
for
something
like
inflation,
so
I'm
just
giving
a
theoretical
theoretical
here.
F
F
So
you
know:
I
I've
been
on
working
basis
with
some
of
the
dredgers
that
are
out
there.
They
will
be
able
to
tell
me
ahead
of
time
what
their
current
rate
is,
and
they
may
be
able
to
tell
me
a
projected
rate,
so
I
think
that's
something
we
can
keep
in
mind
to
address
your
concern
of
dredge
inflation.
G
D
Charlie
Charlie
John
featherlings,
my
name
I,
was
involved
with
the
project
similar
to
what
you're
talking
about
here.
We
tried
to
do
it
about
I,
don't
know
eight
years
ago,
five
years
ago,
I'm
guessing
with
the
with
another
engineering
firm
from
down
here
and
we
had.
We
ran
into
several
obstacles,
but
it
isn't
most
of
the
cost
of
the
dredge
getting
the
dredge
there,
putting
it
in
the
water
getting
it
going
and
once
it
gets
going,
you
could
run
for
days
for
minimal
amounts.
More.
F
Yeah
you're
absolutely
right
so
The
Dredge
firms
that
I've
worked
with
like
dredge
America.
They
do
these
operations
all
over
the
country,
and
but
it
does
cost
a
lot
of
money
for
them
to
set
up
their
equipment,
and
so
a
high
cost
is
going
to
come
from
the
mobilization.
But
then,
once
they've
got
their
equipment
in
the
water
they're
they
can
run
for
months
and
and
work
pretty
efficiently.
D
Does
it
drop
I
know
it
drops
the
cost
per
yard,
you
know
down
considerably,
but
we
didn't
have
any
money
any
idea
about
how
much
is
going
to
cost
to
haul
it
away
we're
planning
on
leaving
it
in
a
pile.
At
that
time
we
won't
be
able
to
do
that
where
the
location
we're
talking
about
now,
but
there's
a
an
issue
around
the
bend
just
around
the
bend
from
there.
D
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
wrote
down
the
river,
you
know
a
quarter
mile
around
the
bend
there
where
the
Iroquois
comes
in
there,
there's
a
real
fill
and
sediment
problem
there,
where
the
river's
getting
choked
up
or
it
gets
stopped
there
and
that's
why
a
lot
of
that
sand
is
dumping
there,
but
I
didn't
know.
You
know
what
the
chances
were
of
going
if
we
have
enough
to
go
or
if
we
can
come
up
with
some
more
funds
to
go
around
the
bend.
Some
more.
D
We
had
several
people
that
were
willing
to
donate
at
that
time,
funds
to
help
get
that
around
the
bend
there,
because
there's
a
couple:
businesses
that
are
there
that
are
like
choked
out
there's
a
marina
there.
It
used
to
be
they
sold.
You
know
a
lot
of
boats,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
service
work
and
things
like
that
there
and
you
can't
even
get
to
that
because
of
that
just
around
the
bend
there.
It's
just
the
sand
just
piles
up
right
there
and
I
think
you
get
two
kinds
of
yuck
there.
D
You
get
you
get
sand
and
you
get
the
it's
kind
of
like
clay
water.
You
know
it's
like
gray
clay.
It
digs
out,
so
you
got
that
mixing
together
right
there
and
you
can
see
in
it
pictures
from
overhead
the
DraStic
color
change
in
the
water,
just
From,
the
Muddy,
the
clay
silted
water
coming
out
of
the
ear
coin.
It's
real
slippery!
So
the
sand
bars
past.
The
Iroquois
are
slippery.
When
you
stand
on
them
and
then
the
sandbars
you
know
and
up
towards
Aroma
Park
there
you
can
walk
on.
D
D
But
you
know
that
that's
what
you
end
up
with
there,
but
if,
if
around
the
corner
to
the
Sands
that
four
five
six
feet
deep
in
the
area
right,
where
you're
at
there
I
believe
the
sand
was
close
to
seven
feet
down
and
you're
talking
about
taking
off
the
top
like
three
and
a
half
or
three
or
whatever
you're
talking
about
doing
in
that
area.
So
I
didn't
know.
When
you
did
did
your
bathroom
ethics
report,
you
actually
have
the
the
actual
original
riverbed.
D
F
We
have
Upstream
reference
of
Bedrock,
so
one
of
the
things
that's
interesting
is
at
the
location
of
the
boat
launch.
There
is
sediment
that
you
can
remove
and
not
hit
Bedrock,
but
there
are
areas
Upstream
of
their
where
you
don't
go
far
at
all
down
and
you'll
hit
Bedrock.
So
we
do
have
the
Bedrock
information
and
there's
some
historic
profiles
that
we
can
chase
there
as
well.
F
But
we
didn't
I
mean
I,
guess
to
answer
your
question.
We
we've
got
some
historic
profiles
that
we
can
compare
against.
We
don't
have
a
foolproof
idea
of
every
single
location
along
this
stream.
What
the
original
grade
was,
what
we
are
trying
to
do
rather
is
to
look
at
the
upstream
and
downstream
and
create
a
line
of
energy
that
is
cohesive,
so
that
you're
not
essentially
creating
this
really
over
excavated
pit
and
then
the
Upstream
of
the
downstream
are
higher,
and
then
it's
just
going
to
act
as
a
sediment
trap.
F
D
And
as
far
as
using
the
putting
things
in
the
river
to
slow
sand
down
just
around
the
bend
Upstream,
just
the
other
side
of
the
bridge,
maybe
I
don't
know
100
yards
up.
There's
there's
an
old
bridge.
I
thought
it
was
a
dam,
but
I
heard
it
was
a
bridge.
They
just
blew
it
up
and
left
it
in
the
river
there.
It's
rock
chunks
of
concrete
and
everything
going
across
there
and
it's
causing
like
a
Natural
Dam.
That's
why
the
river's,
slowing
down-
or
you
can
actually
see
it
rise
up
over
that
rock
bed.
D
That's
up
there,
so
that
was
would
be
doing
something
similar
to
what
you're
talking
about.
As
far
as
like
a
sand,
trap
type
thing
with,
you
know:
keeping
the
water
moving,
because
it's
going
over
that
rock
and
then
slowing
it
down,
and
then
we
have
another
business.
That's
in
that
area
too,
that's
concerned
about.
You
know
people
not
being
able
to
get
their
boats
to
their
restaurant
and
stuff,
which
used
to
be
everybody
used
to
go
to
Ryan's
Pier
for
dinner
with
their
boat.
D
And
it's
it's
right
like
there
right
where
your
finger
or
you
know
in
that
area
right
there
there.
It
is
right
there
and
people
would
pull
their
boats
up
in
the
sand
there
and
go
in
there
and
have
dinner
all
the
time
that
place
you.
You
couldn't
get
a
spot
to
park
your
boat
there.
You
know
not
that
long
ago,
and
now
they
like
I,
said
they
can't.
Nobody
can
even
get
that
far
and
if
you
go
Downstream,
just
the
hair
like
can
you
go
further
or
you
just
have
that
once
can
you
go?
D
Can
you
keep
going
there?
You
go,
there's
the
two
rivers
coming
together
and
if
you
go
from
where
you're,
where
your
cursor
is
at
right
now
from
there
all
the
way
down
to
the
point
of
that
Island
right
that
one
there
there
not
even
a
foot
deep
all
that
area
right.
There
is
all
six
inches,
eight
inches
deep
right.
There.
F
That
doesn't
mean
we
couldn't
do
more.
You
know
across
Bridge
streets
towards
Ryan's
Pier.
You
know
we
can
consider
doing
that.
We
just
need
to
know
now
what
the
interest
level
is
of
expanding
the
range,
because
we
don't
have
data
collected
Upstream
of
Bridge
Street,
for
example,
and
so
we
would
need
to
get
back
into
the
field
to
collect
more
data.
If,
if
we're
going
to
expand
the
dredge
area.
D
Okay,
my
thought
is
once
we
have
it
in
the
water
that
you
know
if
you
come
out
of
I'm
using
numbers,
you
know
two
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
short
I
think
you
can
pump
a
lot
of
sand
for
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
so,
but
you
got
to
get
rid
of
it
too.
You
know
that's
the
problem
after
that,
so
thank
you.
Charlie
appreciate
well,
look
forward
to
working
with
you
further
on
this
project.
That's
for
sure
foreign.
C
F
F
That's
not
including,
for
example,
whatever
it's
going
to
take
to
create
a
stage
dewatering
area
at
the
park
that
you
know:
sediment
controls
and
riffles,
and
things
of
that
nature.
But
I
do
think.
It's
pretty
fair
statement
to
say
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
Q
for
just
doing
the
dredge
and
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
removing
the
dredge
I
think
that's
a
pretty
fair
statement.
So.
C
If
we're
going
to
talk
about
expanding
the
scope
of
what
we're
asking
you
guys
to
look
at
we've,
we
want
to
include
the
engineering
fees
and
the
other
fees
in
the
million
dollars
so
that
we
have
to
spend.
Obviously,
because
we
don't
want
to
go
over
that
and
then
have
to
dig
out
of
the
general
fund
or
yeah.
C
Well,
yeah
we'll
take
it
out
of
his,
but
no
I'm
just
kidding,
but
no
the
the
thought
is
is
like.
Should
I
estimate
about
150
000
for
more
engineering
and
permitting
out
of
that
million?
Just
so
we
say:
okay,
we'll
look
all
the
way
past
Ryan's
Pier,
you
know
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
I
don't
go
over
when
we
get
to
that
point.
Yeah.
F
The
big,
no
I
wouldn't
say
150
000
I,
but
what
I
would
say
is
your
biggest
effort
like
cost
wise
is
we
have
a
firm
we've
been
working
with
that
has
supplied
the
bathymetric
to
get
our
our
Channel
bottom
depth
information
we
would
they're
gonna
have
a
little
bit
of
additional.
For
example,
if
they
go
in
do
bath
on
more
area
of
river,
that's
going
to
increase
their
cost,
so
we
would
just
need
to
give
them
an
expanded
scope.
F
C
Me,
let
me
say
this
to
the
committee,
then
this
will
be
your
decision,
but
my
thought
is
is
that
we
go
as
far
as
the
million
takes
us
until
we
run
out
of
gas.
You
know
and
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
talking
about
here.
We
would
need
you
to
tell
us
kind
of
at
that
point,
you're
going
to
get
up
to
Ryan's,
Pier
or
right
pass
then
at
current
hauling
rates
gas
prices,
whatever
else
you're
going
to
get
right
to
about
that
area.
C
If
you
look
at
that
picture,
there's
another
boat
launch
on
the
other
side
of
the
river
right
across
from
Ryan's
Pier.
So
we
may
be
able
to
get
say.
That's
our
stopping
point.
Could
we
fit
that
into
the
envelope
with
permitting
with
other
things
that
we're
talking
about?
You
know
that
I
will
I'll,
throw
that
back
to
you,
yeah.
F
Yeah
I
I
think
you
could.
The
great
thing
about
permitting
is
permits,
don't
increase
in
cost,
because
it's
a
bigger
area.
So,
if
I
throw
a
plan
sheet
that
shows,
you
know
this
area
of
drudge
removal
versus
this
removal.
It
doesn't
change
the
cost
of
the
permit,
so
permits
are
going
to
be
a
fixed
cost.
What
it
is
where
the
cost
is
going
to
fluctuate.
F
If
we
do
a
bigger
dredge
area
is
just
basically
cubic
yards
of
removal
and
then
more
time
in
the
field
to
collect
all
that
bathymetric,
sonar
information
and
possibly
a
couple
extra
plan
sheets
as
well
so
I
mean
it
yeah.
It's
going
to
increase
engineering,
I,
wouldn't
say
more
than
like
another
50
000,
something
like
that.
Okay,.
E
Yeah
I
was
just
curious
as
far
as
the
dredging
goes.
We
were
mostly,
it
seems,
speaking
about
hydraulic
dredging
and
the
cost
of
getting
rid
of
the
spoils.
If
you
will,
what
would
the
difference
be
between
the
hydraulic,
dredging
versus
any
other
type
of
dredging
and
what
would
the
difference
be
in
efficiency
yeah,
and
could
we
get
stuck
in
an
area
where
we
choose
one,
but
it
requires
the
other
and
then
could
there
be
a
cost
differential.
F
Yeah,
that's
actually
a
really
good
question,
but
here's
what
I've
learned
from
working
on
the
dredge
project
I've
worked
on
this
year
is
when
you
choose
a
hydraulic
dredge,
you
have
it's
mixed
with
water
right,
it's
a
slurry,
and
so
you
have
to
have
what
I
call
a
dewatering
pit
or
staging
area.
So
that
is
going
to
require
a
substantial
sized
portion
of
the
park
where
you
temporarily
discharge.
F
If
you
will
a
slurry
mix
of
sand
water,
the
water
will
be
filtered
off
and
go
back
to
the
river,
but
that
takes
more
space
and
it
takes
a
little
bit
more
consideration
for
sizing
out
the
dewatering
area.
If
you're
doing
the
amphibious,
the
consideration
is,
you've
got
to
create
platforms
and
access
and
you've
also
it,
but
it
is
drier
right.
So
what
you're
taking
out
is
still
wet,
but
it's
not
it's
not
filled
with
water,
so
I
mean
it's
filled
with
water,
but
it's
not
a
slurry.
F
So
you
you
don't
need
as
much
in
terms
of
volume
for
staging
I
would
want
to
vet
out
the
two
methods
early
in
the
year.
For
you
to
see
how
they
compare
in
terms
of
what
we
think
we
could
do
and
then,
like
I,
said
I.
Think
both
methods
here
somewhere
in
the
twenty
dollars
per
cubic
yard,
give
or
take.
D
The
cost,
by
of
doing
more
lower
the
cost
of
doing
the
area
by
the
ramp
you're
talking
about
now
by
having
the
equipment
already
there
to
do
more
work
than
if
you
tell
the
guy
he's
only
going
to
move.
You
know
100
000
cubic
yards,
you
say
hey!
Well,
we
got
300
000.
Now
you
could
set
a
guy
there
for
a
while
and
leave
him
alone
yeah.
So.
F
I
will
absolutely
tell
you
yes
to
that
question
because
they
these
particularly
the
really
efficient,
like
big,
firm,
like
construction
firms
that
do
dredges
across
the
country.
They
are
interested
in
big
quantities,
and
so,
if
you
tell
them,
oh,
you
know.
I've
got
a
job
for
two
to
five
thousand
cubic
yards,
sir
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
they're
going
to
kind
of
scoff
at
it.
F
C
German
wheeler,
thank
you,
so
I
think
we're
to
the
point
where,
if,
if
the
committee
agrees-
and
we
can
do
it
via
head-
nod
Voice
vote
whatever
you
want,
let
me
continue
to
work
with
Burke
to
Define
this
area.
You
know,
John
is
well
versed
in
this
as
well
Mr
featherling
to
be
part
of
it
as
well,
but
to
kind
of
look
at
that
scope
and
what
we're
talking
about
what
a
final
scope
would
look
like.
C
C
A
C
G
G
It
just
be
exploratory
as
to
the
economic
benefit
of
of
a
projected
cause
if
of
of
moving
forward,
since
we
are,
it
is
on
the
Gen
gender
S2,
what
we're
I
mean
as
far
as
the
discussion
is
concerned,
so
hopefully,
if
we
can
just
do
a
head
nine
that
just
gives
him
the
ability
to
just
span
it
further
than
where
we
are
right.
Now.
Okay,.
H
C
A
C
Charlie
know
something
we
actually
just
passed
the
other
day
going
out
to
bid
on
an
RFP
for
bathymetrics
on
the
entire
river
system
in
King
County,
and
that
includes
the
Iroquois.
So
some
of
the
things
John
was
talking
about.
Downstream
will
be
caught
up
in
the
next
phase,
which
we
may
look
at
the
the
Confluence
of
the
Iroquois
and
the
Kankakee
to
make
that
more
accessible
so
with,
but
that's
that's
project,
two
or
three
does
that
make
sense.
Okay,
all
right.
C
F
It's
all
a
timing
thing,
so
you
all
want
to
essentially
delay
the
timeline
of
this
project
and
wait
until
the
bathymetric
of
your
RFP
comes
in.
Essentially
until
you
have
the
data,
then
we
would
be
able
to
ride
on
that
data
and
use
it
for
this
project.
But
if
you
don't
anticipate
the
bathymetric
for
that
RFP
getting
done
until
let's
say
middle
to
end
of
next
year-
and
you
want
this
stretching
done
next
year,
then
my
recommendation
would
be
to
do
our
bathymetric
separate
from
that
bathymetric.
But
I
leave
it
to
you.
C
I
would
say
it's
the
latter
of
what
you
just
said,
the
the
the
would
be
to
you.
Do
your
mathematics,
we'll
do
ours,
whether
it's
in
23
even
better,
would
be
24
to
see
how
much
sand
is
re-migrated
into
the
area
to
see
if
there's
any
changes
over
that
year.
So
that
might
actually
be
better
that
we
do
our
bathroom
metrics
in
24..
A
A
We
don't
have
any
bidding
or
letting
here
we're
gonna
move
into
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
will
be
the
counting
engine.
Sp
estimate
you
have
that
on
your
packet.
You
receive
that,
so
you
had
enough
time
to
look
into
it.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
this
time,
we're
going
to
combine,
make
a
motion
to
combine
and
approve
the
county,
Engineers
pay
estimates
and
then,
after
that,
we're
going
to
open
it
for
a
question.
A
B
A
A
I
Okay,
the
first
one
is
resolution
authorizing
the
County
board
chairman
to
sign
a
local
agency
agreement
for
federal
participation
and
appropriating
matching
tax
funds
for
resurfacing
County
Highway
18..
This
was
a
project
that
had
gotten
started
before
I
was
here,
we've
done
all
the
design
work
got
the
plans
done.
This
is
the
last
step
with
idot.
This
is
agreeing
to
pay
our
match.
Our
share
of
the
you
know.
The
federal
is
paying
80
we're
paying
20.
and
we
also
got
a
Bonus.
I
B
I
Next,
one
is
a
resolution
for
maintenance
under
the
Illinois
highway
code
for
our
mft
program
for
next
year.
This
is
something
we
do
every
year
we
appropriate
the
funds
and
within
this
the
amount
is
all
the
operations
we
do
throughout
the
year:
buying
equipment
or
buying
materials
paying
for
salaries,
equipment,
rental
and
you
know,
emit
general
maintenance
of
the
highway
roadways.
A
B
A
I
All
right
next
one
is
a
resolution
authorizing
the
County
board
chairman
to
sign
an
engineering
agreement
with
Hampton
lanzini
and
Renwick
Incorporated,
and
appropriate
motor
fuel
tax
funds
to
design
a
bridge
replacement
on
County
Highway
17
in
Sumner
Township.
If
they
don't
know,
if
any
of
you
all
of
you
are
aware
of
this,
but
we
had
to
close
a
bridge
based
on
an
inspection
idot
made,
and
this
is
the
the
resolution
to
get
the
design
process
started
on
replacing
that
bridge.
B
A
I
Right
this
is
part
two
of
a
two-part
process.
Last
month
we
approved
the
resolution,
the
appropriating
funds
for
my
salary,
which
has
to
be
done
every
year
with
idot.
This
is
the
stage
two,
and
this
is
the
resolution,
the
agreement
with
idot
all
the
fine
tuning.
In
the
terms
you
can
see
on
the
agreement
itself,
but
this
is
just
the
last
step
that
requires
to
formalize
that
agreement.