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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 10/21/2020 9:00 AM
A
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
the
needed
to
have
a
a
discussion
with
the
as
many
board
members
as
we
could
at
once
yesterday.
If
any
of
you
were
at
the
committee
meeting
or
saw
it,
we
discussed
the
region,
seven
mitigation
that
we
were
put
in,
that
will
start
at
11
pm.
I
believe
on
friday,
there's
a
lot
of
questions
that
board
members
have.
I
have
had.
D
If
there
are
specifics
once
we
get
into
this
a
little
bit,
but
I
wanted
to
first
of
all
say
that
that
I
don't
think
this
sits
well
with
really
anybody
whether
you
are
whatever
your
political
bent.
Is
we
we?
We
know
that
that
well,
first
of
all
for
a
restaurant
to
say
that
you
can
have
outdoor
seating
when
it's
zero
degrees
is
pretty
much
a
death
sentence
because
nobody's
going
to
go
sit
outside
in
the
cold
nobody's
nobody's
going
to
do
that.
D
They're
not
going
to
put
a
snowmobile
suit
on
to
have
a
cocktail
sitting
out
on
a
bench.
So
when
we
go
into
this
mitigation
for
the
next
14
days,
it's
probably
going
to
be
28.
That's
usually
the
with
a
stretch
that
it
goes
because
of
the
ability
to
bend
a
trend.
If
you
will
is
not
something
you
can
do
in
mass
in
that
short
amount
of
time.
So
we
understand
that
the
restaurants
after
taking
a
couple
punches
to
the
chin,
now
is
having
a
knockout
punch
being
placed
on
them.
D
So
I
wanted
to
at
least
mention
to
those
folks
that
that,
and
I'm
sure
the
board
has
specific
feelings
and
individual
feelings
on
that,
but
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
help
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
legal
standing
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
pursue
this
in
a
court
of
law
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
and
that
legal
avenue
is
not
available
to
us.
That's
the
first
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
to
the
board
that
I
wished
we
could
file
suit
on
behalf
of
our
our
people.
D
E
D
Understand
they're
trying
to
do
the
best
they
can,
but
in
this
case
I
think
we're
the
people
are
being
failed
tremendously.
So,
as
we
start
to
talk
about
this,
the
county
as
a
governmental
body
is
not
being
injured
per
se.
It's
the
restaurant
and
bar
owners,
so
we
don't
have
what's
called
standing
and
again,
I'm
not
a
lawyer,
but
I
associate
with
smart
people.
D
At
least
they
tell
me
they
are,
and
so
we
we
try
to
at
least
take
the
information
as
we
are
presented
and
formulate
at
least
how
we
can
approach
things
as
we
go
forward
and
we're
not
injured.
So
we
can't
be
in
first
position
if
you
will
on
any
type
of
an
action
in
the
courts,
because
we
can't
prove
that
we
were
damaged,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
be
in
a
supportive
role
and
and
it's
incumbent
upon
those
that
are
being
damaged
to
take
action
as
they
have
in
many
other
counties
in
the
state.
D
There
are
some
cases
that
are
out
there
that
are
going
to
be
decided
within
well
a
week
from
friday,
I
believe,
is
the
timetable
that
will
shed
a
lot
of
light
on
how
the
state
is
going
to
be
handling
this
they've
moved.
The
illinois
supreme
court
has
moved
cases
into
sangamon
county
they're,
trying
to
combine
them.
D
There's
going
to
be
some
rulings
that
happen
there,
but
that
all
that
does
is
move
it
into
the
discovery
phase,
which
means
that
you
can
start
looking
at
the
evidence
and
get
testimony
and
all
those
different
types
of
things.
So
we're
not
even
to
that
point
yet.
So
that's
not
going
to
help
us
in
the
next
14
28
days.
I
mean,
I
hope,
that's
that
reality
is
is
put
put
there.
D
We've
had
a
few
meetings
up
until
this
point,
so
you
know
I
don't
I
don't
know
what
else
I
could
say
right
now,
because
we
have
some
other
discussions
to
to
undertake,
but
we're
just
not
going
to
sit
our
hands
as
a
board,
but
as
soon
as
some
the
opportunity
allows
us
and
we
figure
and
assess
properly
the
path
that
we
think
would
be
best
to
affect
change
and
it
may
be
attacking
the
regions
that
were
put
in
it
may
be.
You
know
the
arbitrary
nature
of
a
lot
of
this.
D
The
fact
that
there's
no
data
that
supports
the
bars
and
the
restaurants
are
the
cause
or
the
solution
to
any
of
this
pandemic.
You
know
these
are
all
different
things
that
we're
trying
to
you
know
get
out
there,
at
least
in
the
public.
You
know
the
fact
that
you
know
we
had
what
17
deaths
in
october
in
region,
7
and
2
were
in
kankakee
county.
D
One
is
obviously
more
than
we
want
to
have,
but
typically
in
a
bad
flu
season,
it's
kind
of
what
you're
getting
so
I
mean
things
are
not
perfect,
but
I
can
say
that
we
want
to
still
do
things
the
right
way.
We
still
want
to
protect
ourselves,
protect
the
ones
that
are
really
the
most
vulnerable,
the
ones
that
are
succumb
to
this.
Eighty
percent
of
our
deaths
in
key
county
occurred
in
the
first
two
and
a
half
months
of
this
pandemic.
D
Since
then,
I
mean
I've
got
the
numbers
still
here
in
front
of
me,
two
in
october,
zero
in
september
four
in
august,
one
in
july,
seven
in
june,
and
then
the
rest
were
before
then
so
again,
eighty
percent,
we
got
three
percent
of
our
deaths
in
the
last
two
months
out
of
total
deaths
in
kanke
county
again,
one
is
too
many.
What
are
the
comorbidities
issues?
We
both
we
all
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
were
on
hospice
already
that
got
covered
and
that
just
hastened
the
decline.
D
If
you
will
it's
an
endothelial
disease,
we
all
know
these
things.
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
we
got
holiday
parties
coming
up,
you
know
thanksgiving
christmas.
Trick-Or-Treating,
you
know,
is
we've
got
schools.
You
know
you
want
to
tell
me
if
the
bars
and
restaurants
are
the
problem.
What
about
all
the
parties
that
are
going
on
that
people
are
having
at
their
houses
the
weddings?
D
Then
those
are
the
outbreak
ones.
That's
what
the
data's
telling
us!
It's
the
data's,
not
saying
it's
the
bars
in
the
restaurant,
so
I
just
wanted
the
board
to
know
you
can
ask
me
questions.
You
can
ask
nancy
questions.
We
I've
been
in
contact
with
public
health.
I
got
the
lay
of
the
land.
Very,
very
well
very
well
explained
to
me.
I
look
at
it
every
day,
so
this
is
the
board's
chance
to
know
where
we're
at,
but
it
really
takes
the
bars
and
the
restaurants
to
step
up.
Then
we
can
join
them.
Okay,.
F
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
wheeler,
for
that
information,
I've
met
with
the
local
bars
and
restaurants
over
the
last
couple
months.
My
district.
There
are
quite
a
few
businesses
that
are
being
negatively
impacted
by
this
there's
people
there's
data,
but
there's
really
people
behind
this
data
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
negatively
and
by
all
means.
You
know
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
those
that
are
susceptible
to
this
virus,
it's
out
there,
but
at
the
same
time
as
a
board,
we
ultimately
work
for
the
people
we
work.
F
These
are
the
these
are
the
people
who
we
represent.
We
need
to
do
whatever
legally
we
can,
and
I
and
I
understand
our
hands
are
tied
somewhat
because
we
are
not
quote
unquote
being
I
guess
victims
compared,
but
we
do
need
to
find
a
way
just
to
let
it
be
known
that
we
support
our
area,
businesses,
our
area,
our
residents,
I
mean,
like
andy
said,
I
mean
there's
people
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
this
long
term.
F
You
know
I
mean
these
are
businesses
that
may
not
open
again,
and
it's
really
and
it
does-
and
I
would
be
meeting
with
the
restaurants
and
buyers
here
in
the
next
day
or
so
we're
going
to
be.
We
have
a
meeting
set
up
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
our
options
and
I
think,
as
a
county
board,
if
we
decide
to
pursue
a
certain
avenue,
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
that.
Perhaps
work
alongside
them.
Yeah.
H
D
The
originally
you
know
we
were
in
a
different
region
now
we're
with
will,
as
you
said,
with
six
and
a
half
to
seven
to
one
population
ratio.
The
population
densities
are
very
different.
I
can
tell
you
before
I
got
the
call
started
yesterday
with
dr
ezekie.
There
was
some
chatter
going
on
and
they
didn't
mention
kankakee
at
all.
All
they
talked
about
was:
will
county
how's
illinois
state
police
going
to
help
them
enforce
this
blah
blah
blah
was
all
real
will
will
didn't
even
talk
about
key
county
whatsoever,
we're
the
only
region.
D
The
problem
is,
the
data
is
not
transparent.
We
find
out
three
or
four
days
after
the
data
points
have
been
met.
That
something
has
happened.
It's
not
daily
updates.
It's
not.
We
don't
know
how
they're
calculating
this.
We
don't
know
the
test
between.
You
know.
We
know
what
the
hospitals
are
doing
because
we're
talking
locally,
but
we
don't
know
what
these
third-party
testing
sites
that
our
factories
are
using
to
test
their
employees.
D
Well,
you
got
100
000
people
like
we
do
that's
going
to
have
a
major
impact
on
the
number,
but
we
can't
even
do
that
math.
We
can't
even
look
at
and
start
to
design
that
to
figure
out
where's
the
statistical
significance
in
all
of
this.
So
I
can
tell
you
that,
even
if
we
were
peeled
off,
our
positivity
rate
could
and
would
probably
still
go
up
over
eight
percent,
but
that
our
that
number
number's
arbitrary.
That's
part
of
our
argument.
D
That
is
not
a
number,
because
our
deaths
are
a
lot
lower
than
they
used
to
be
our
at
the
very
beginning
and
even
really
throughout
the
trend.
The
things
that
really
matter
we're
doing
pretty
darn
good
in
our
hospitalizations
are
up,
but
the
vent
usage
and
the
beds
availability
is
still
within
reason.
D
So
we're
doing
okay,
we're
not
doing
great
any,
but
the
people
that
are
predominantly
being
tested
positive
were
ones
that
weren't
being
tested
at
the
very
beginning,
because
you
only
got
a
test
if
you
were
at
risk
and
you
were
older
and-
and
you
were
sick
well
now-
they're
just
just
there's
a
lot
of
tests
that
are
going
on
if
you're,
not
sick
schools
again,
you
know
we
had
an
outbreak
at
the
university
locally.
We
had.
You
know,
I
mean
it's
it's
serious,
but
those
folks
are
not
ending
up
in
the
hospital.
F
D
D
D
You
know
in
in
most
cases,
but
if
you
have
diabetes
and
other
things,
if
you're
younger,
then
it's
a
real
problem
again,
I
think
we
figured
out
how
to
protect
those
that
are
vulnerable.
So
to
your
point,
even
if
we
were
peeled
off,
we
could
still
go
over
that
number
and
it
wouldn't
make
much
difference.
A
G
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
and
to
piggyback
on
what
commissioner
byrne
indicated
you
know.
I
concur
with
his
comments
regarding
adverse
impact,
and
I
know
that
he
has
interfaced
with
the
bars
and
related
businesses,
so
we
know
that
adverse
impact
will
transpire
friday
at
11
p.m.
As
chairman
wheeler
is
indicated,
we
can
debate
and
argue
and
regarding
you
know
what
springfield
is
doing.
G
D
You
know
that
are
the
the
small
mom
and
pops,
if
you
will
some
of
that
money
was
distributed,
but
you
know
10
grand
doesn't
do
a
whole
lot
for
somebody
at
all.
So
it's
it's
really
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
dribbling
of
water
when
they
need
a
full
glass
of
water.
You
know,
and
it's
I.
I
think,
that
those
resources
that
we
have,
I
would
say,
go
to
the
health
department's
website
tell
every
business.
You
know
that
those
resources
are
there.
D
They
can
get
a
hold
of
the
economic
alliance
or
the
kanke
county
chamber.
It's
kind
of
been
us
that
have
been
spearheading
this.
This
information
initiative
trying
to
get
it
out
there
and
say
if
you
need
help.
These
are
the
best
places
to
get
the
help
in.
In
some
cases
it
has
helped.
In
most
cases
it
falls
short,
but
I
mean
it's
it's
an
attempt
to
get
the
information
out
there.
D
You
know
it
made
them
to
be
at
ease,
so
we
had
people
that
were
taking.
You
know
a
more
community
view
of
that,
even
though
they
didn't
think
they
needed
one.
They
still
were
wearing
them,
they're
going
in
there
socially
distant,
even
if
their
bar
restaurant
was
open
during
when
it
was
supposed
to
be
shut
down,
they
were
still
socially
distant.
You
know
so
in
their
own.
I
want
to
say
quiet
protest.
If
you
will,
they
were
still
doing
things
the
right
way,
yeah.
G
G
G
D
I
would
say
that
the
best
entity
for
bars
and
restaurants
are
is
the
keiki
county
chamber
of
commerce
they
have.
They
have
gotten
together,
meetings
with
bars
and
restaurants
there's
another
one.
Tomorrow
they
have
have
been
a
very
good
resource.
I've
actually
heard
from
a
few
small,
you
know
like
mom
and
pop
restaurants.
Some
of
our
hispanic
businesses
in
town
and
ben
wilson
has
gone
over
there
to
help
them
fill
out
their
grant
paperwork
to
show
them
what
is
available.
Unfortunately,
I
don't
think
anyone
got
it.
So
ben
ben
works
for
the
county.
F
Quick.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Back
in
july,
we
passed
a
resolution
supporting
our
local
businesses.
We
need
to
give
that
some
teeth.
I
may
come
across
as
a
jerk
right
now
and
it
really
doesn't
matter.
You
know
the
last
thing
people
want
to
hear
we're
here
from
the
government
we're
here
to
help
that's
the
last
thing
people
want
to
hear.
There
are
resources
outside
of
the
government.
For
example,
tom
devore
would
be
a
great
resource
for
area
businesses
to
contact.
F
We
have
got
to
do
whatever
we
can.
I
understand
our
hands
are
tied,
but
really
I
mean
these,
you
know
we're
looking
at
people,
businesses,
long-time
businesses
closing
for
good
we're.
Looking
at
in
people
that
live
paycheck
to
paycheck
live,
you
know,
barely
getting
by
are
crippled.
The
state
has
failed
in
this
people
that
have
gotten
on
unemployment
aren't
getting
their
unemployment.
F
We've
got
to
do
whatever
we
can.
I
know
we're
limited
we're
at
a
county
board.
We
are
limited,
but
we
need
to
do
something
whether
it's
we,
you
know,
I
mean
it's
easy
to
say:
hey.
We
support
you,
that's
great,
but
you
know
what
we
need
to.
If
we
can
piggyback
on
something
guide
them
in
the
right
resources,
can
we
rely
on
the
state
honestly
can?
Can
you
honestly
look
out
to
springfield
and
go?
Can
we
trust
you,
I
sure,
as
hell,
can't
thanks?
Thank
you.
E
Good
morning,
chairman
willis
said
something
yesterday,
I
believe
when
I
was
in
the
meeting
that
made
sense
and
I
and
I
think
that
it's
worth
echoing
again
today-
sometimes
they
say
we
don't
always
agree,
but
on
some
on
this
point
I
do
agree.
I
I
wish
that
the
state
of
illinois
would
look
at
the
mortality
rate,
because
I
think
it's
it
it's
it's
it's
unfair
to
say
that
the
virus
is
spreading.
E
Of
course,
if
it's
out
there
that's
going
to
spread
no
more
like
the
common
cold,
the
flu
or
anything
else
it's
going
to
spread,
but
what
we
should,
which
should
be
our
gauging
point,
should
be
the
mentality
when
we
look
at
the
corner
report
for
kanke
county,
unless
I've
missed
something
it's
rather
very
very
conservative
while
one
death
is
is,
is
one
death
too
many?
It's
it's
not
an
alarming
rate.
E
E
But
I
I
think
we
need
to
appeal
to
our
state
legislator
matter
of
fact:
we
need
to
call
them
both
in
the
senator
and
the
and
the
and
the
house,
the
rep
and
and
they
need
to
speak
truth
to
power
in
these
particular
meetings,
because
I
think
it's
fundamentally
unfair
at
this
point
to
to
arrest
all
of
the
economic
abilities
of
of
our
of
our
restaurants
or
or
anyone.
I
mean
look
at
coyote
canyon,
it's
out
of
business.
E
What's
that
bakersfield,
it's
out
of
business,
we
can't
keep
operating
like
this.
I
think
we
need
to
look
and
leverage
county
by
county
and
then
look
at
the
mortality
rate,
not
so
much
at
the
rate
of
someone
catching
it.
I
think
those
numbers
sometimes
can
be.
I
mean
they
may
be
accurate
with
the
cdc,
but
by
the
time
it
gets
to
us
or
whatever
the
damage
is
done.
The
economic
ability
has
left
our
community
and
we're
we're
we're
we're
choking
these
individuals.
E
F
I
What
teeth
does
this
mitigation
have
to
enforce
this
shutdown?
What
happens
if
the
business
doesn't
close?
What
are
some
of
the
penalties
for
not
closing?
Who
has
the
authority
to
enforce
the
shutdown?
Is
it
local
county
state?
Have
any
businesses
in
our
area
been
fined
if
so,
who's?
Who
gets
the
money
for
the
fine?
I
A
D
The
mitigation
is
enforced,
they're
looking
to
have
the
state
has
put
the
local
health
department
as
the
the
police
force.
If
you
will
to
go
out
and
enforce
the
governor's
executive
orders,
because
there
is
no
law
per
se,
there's
no
law
per
se
on
this.
The
legislature
has
never
taken
this
up,
which
is
one
of
the
real
problems
here.
The
second
thing,
the
so
yeah
they're
they're
the
police
force.
If
you
will,
the
state's
attorney's
already
said
that
he
is
not
going
to
be
prosecuting
any
of
these.
D
Now
I
do
have
to
mention
that
the
local
health
department
is
they
follow
up,
just
as
they
would
on
any
other.
Like
food
borne
complaint,
you
know-
or
you
know,
uncleanliness
or
whatever
else,
that's
the
the
category
of
our
county
goal
that
they're
relying
upon
and
they
have
a
different
protocol
than
they
did
the
first
time.
This
happened
as
far
as
how
they're
going
to
handle
this,
but
the
illinois
state
police
can
get
involved
as
well,
but
the
illinois
state
police
is
only
they
their
limitation
stops
at.
D
Are
the
people
working
there
do
they
have
a
mask
on
that
is
that
is
their
limitation,
because
that's
the
only
part
of
the
executive
order
that
they
are
able
to
enforce
the
rest
of
it
falls
to
the
local
jurisdiction
like
if
the
place
doesn't
close.
The
illinois
state
police
is
not
going
to
do
that.
The
liquor
commission
in
the
state
of
illinois
can
send
out
the
state
police
and
that's
a
different
conversation,
because
they're
licensed
from
the
state
of
illinois.
D
D
Yeah
the
health
department
they
when
they
get
a
complaint,
they
will
go
out
in
seven
days
for
the
first
complaint
after
they
go
out
the
the
seven
days,
then
they'll
come
back
in
seven
days,
there's
14
days.
If
the
problem
is
still
not
rectified,
they'll
come
back
in
another
seven
days,
there's
21
days.
If
that's
still
not
rectified,
then
the
the
recommendation
would
go
to
the
board
of
health
to
either
write
a
ticket
or
extend
or
do
warnings.
D
So
we
have
effectively
supported
the
health
department
board
has
supported
our
local
businesses
by
providing
them
at
least
direction
to
the
to
the
administrator
of
the
health
department
and
how
they're
going
to
approach
this.
So
that
was
hopefully
a
good
explanation
of
what
this
is.
The
the
shutting
down
there
still
is
nothing
there
that
says
as
far
as
shutting
downs,
it's
it's
a
it's
a
ticket,
it's
a
classy
misdemeanor
that
would
be
written
to
the
business
if
there
is
a
ticket
written.
But
again
our
state's
attorney
is
not
going
to
prosecute
anything.
D
I
And
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
answering
this
one:
who
has
the
authority
to
enforce
this?
Is
it
local,
so
you're
talking
the
health
department,
the
county
could
be
the
state's
attorney,
but
he's
not
prosecuting
in
the
state
possibly
could
step
in
with
a
liquor
license.
Violation
is
kind
of
what
I
understood
that
you
just
said:
yeah.
D
C
D
Can
do
things
in
their
own
communities
that
are
different
than
other
things
as
well,
but
like,
let's
just
say,
if
you're
in
community
x
and
then
their
police
go
out
and
write
a
ticket
for
whatever
reason
associated
with
this.
It
still
won't
be
prosecuted
by
the
state's
attorney
they
may
be
able
to
do
it
like
they
did
in
the
city
of
kankakee,
with
their
mass
coordinates
that
it
would
go
to
their
adjudication,
and
I
think
the
max
fine
was
250
dollars
that
they
could
do.
C
D
No,
nothing
local
I've
heard
yesterday
that
there
were
four
statewide.
That
was
the
number
I
heard
that
there
were
only
four
that
have
been
fined
statewide.
I
think
one
of
them
might
have
been
at
the
very
beginning.
It's
where
they
sent
the
state
police
to
raid
a
golf
course
down
in
southern
illinois.
D
D
A
D
They're
14
day
increments,
so
I'm
trying
to
think
exactly
the
right
verbiage,
but
according
to
the
to
the
governor
and
dr
zeke
and
idph,
you
can't
just
go
below
eight
and
they
open
you
back
up
and
when
I
say
eight
I
mean
for
the
whole
region,
okay,
because
I
believe
joliet
might
be
closer
to
10
and
we're
below
eight
now
so
less
together.
You
know
we're
happily
married
at
this
point,
but
it's
it's
you.
I
think
it's
three
days
the
rolling
average
over
seven
days
for
three
days
has
to
be
like
6.5.
D
A
A
A
And
then
these
businesses
are
hurting
now
too,
so
you
realize
it's
putting
a
squeeze
on
not
just
bars
and
restaurants,
but
also
long
long-term
care
and
assisted
living
type
care
and
retirement
communities
are
in
the
same
ball
game.
So
they
take
them
all
the
same.
Okay,
mr
vern,
you
want
to
go
again.
F
You
know
the
piggy
bank,
what
you're
saying
john
people
also
are
afraid
to
go,
get
care.
They
get.
These
mitigation
comes
down
and
you
have
people
that
are
high
risk,
have
health
issues
underlying
health
issues,
which
makes
them
high
risk
they're
a
little
leery
of
leaving
the
house
and
going
to
get
the
care
they
need
and
get
the
diagnostic
testing.
They
need.
That's
another
issue
that
you
know
again.
We
talk
about
the
bars
and
restaurants
which
are
important,
but
there's
other
underlying
issues
that
affect
many
more
people
than
just
that.
F
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
want
to
force
state
that
when
I
said,
let's
bring
the
state
senators
and
the
state
reps
in
it's,
not
that
they
are
not
advocating
on
our
behalf,
but
they
become
they
become
the
verification
too,
that
we
use
to
show
that
we
are
we're
asking
them
to
advocate,
on
our
behalf
on
the
state
floor
regarding
this
retirement
issue
or
any
issues
that
we
have.
E
You
know
we,
you
know
giving
this
information
is
one
thing,
but
the
cause
and
solution
needs
to
be
identified
geographically
in
our
area,
what
specific
entities
or
what
the
specific
areas
are
driving.
These
numbers
is
fundamentally
unfair
to
place.
Restrictions
on
on
our
economic
base
remind
yourself
that
when
these
individuals
sell
that's
your
tax
base,
so
it
has,
it
only
closed
them
down.
E
It
erodes
the
tax
base,
the
sale
tax
base
that
we
have
here
in
the
county
and
unlike
springfield,
when,
if
we
give
a
director
springfield
can
choose
to
follow
or
not,
but
when
they
want
to
give
a
mandate,
there's
no
money
that
follows
that
mandate.
So
as
a
result,
it
further
restricts
our
economic
and
we're
trying
to
come
out
of
of
of
the
economic
slump.
So
I
think
it's
fundamentally
unfair,
but
I
think
they
also
need
to
when
they
come
with
these
numbers.
E
We
need
to
know
where
they're
coming
from,
if
they're
coming
from
hospitals
or
whatever,
then
we
need
to
kind
of
know
that,
if
it's
coming
from
some
specific
area
so
that
we'll
have
an
idea
of
not
closing
down
the
whole
county,
but
we
can
now
kind
of
isolate
where
these
numbers
are
coming
from
and
then
can
make
a
more
intelligent
decision
versus
the
one
that
that's
harped
up
on
us.
So
again,
that's
just
my
comment.
Thank
you.
J
J
I
have
a
concern
about
the
testing
and
I've
had
employees
that
have
had
to
go
get
tests
because
of
contact
tracing
and
such
and
I've
have
to
verify
that
their
test
results
were
negative
and
the
test
results
come
back
as
sars
coveted
two
negative,
so
we're
testing
for
sars
covid
ii.
That
has
been
around
for
many
many
years
and
is
probably
well
through
out
our
community
a
little
feedback
going
on
there.
So,
and
so
that's
my
concern
about
the
the
positive
testing
numbers
and
and
we're
going
into
flu
season.
J
So
if
we're
in
flu
season
and
they're
testing
for
an
old
flu
but
mitigating
us
for
it,
it
just
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
common
sense
to
somebody
who
works
in
the
school
district.
You
know
area.
So
that's
my
concern.
Why
are
we
testing
for
sars
covid
2
when
it's
are
supposed
to
be
coveted?
19,
that's
the
the
problem,
so
I
maybe
that's
the
only
test
they
have,
but
it
just
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
accurate
test
if
that
has
already
been
throughout
the
country
in
the
nation.
So
yeah,
that's
my.
D
You,
mr
just,
maybe
to
wrap
it
up.
I
expect
we
will
have
a
robust
discussion
with
mr
beavis
at
our
executive
committee
meeting.
This
was
more
along
the
lines
of
to
answer
any
immediate
questions
and
not
saying
his
comments
were
incorrect
or
out
of
place,
but
we
could
go
really
far
down
the
rabbit
hole
on
this
in
this
meeting
here.
D
A
Thanks
I'd
like
to
comment
with
the
mr
snipes
part
of
what
he
had
to
say,
it
seems
like
people,
I
know
that
go
get
tested,
they
think
they
have
the
symptoms,
so
they
all
get
tested.
But
if
they
tested
everybody,
then
most
people
probably
wouldn't
have
it
and
then
your
number
would
be
lower.
So
the
matrix
is
not
correct.
It
should
be.
I
agree
with
him
mortality
rate
with
our
hospital
care
and
our
ability
to
care
for
the
people.
So
I
really
believe
we're
in
a
good
situation.
A
A
J
A
A
A
B
B
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
first
up
is
going
to
be
our
building
report.
Do
I
need
a
motion
to
approve
that
too?
Okay,
we'll
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
building
report
by
delbert's
going
to
be
here
in
a
second
we'll
go,
mr
long?
No,
mr
mr
payton,
second
by
mr
payton,
okay,
go.
We
have
mr
skimmerhorn
here
live
today
to
number
three
okay:
go
with
you
good
to
go
all
set
good.
K
Morning
in
your
packet,
you
have
the
building
reports
for
both
august
and
september
of
2020..
In
august,
we
issued
104
permits,
one
of
those
being
a
new
mobile
home
and
brought
in
revenue
of
forty
two
thousand
eight
hundred
and
forty
two
dollars,
which
is
more
than
double.
Last
year
we
last
year,
at
the
same
month,
we
issued
95
permits
and
had
revenue
of
19
741
for
september,
we
issued
147
permits,
one
of
those
being
a
new
home
which
brought
in
revenue
of
49
588
for
the
same
month.
K
K
A
B
L
B
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay.
Next
up
we
have
a
zoning
case.
We
have
a
zba
case
20-04
as
a
request
for
a
special
use.
Permit
number
35
agri-tourism
in
the
aoe
agricultural
district,
on
a
parcel
generally
situated
in
section
one
of
yellowhead
township.
The
petitioners
are
christopher
jones
and
rachel
jones
property
owners
and
applicants.
A
K
This
is
a
request
for
a
special
use
permit
to
allow
mr
and
mrs
jones
to
continue
operating
their
agritourism
business
on
the
property.
It's
a
five
acre
track
located
at
16,
146,
east
12,
000
north
road
in
grant
park.
Illinois
kelly.
If
you
want,
can
you
bring
up
the
there's
a
map
up
there,
yeah
page
down
to
the
next
one.
K
K
currently
and
in
the
future.
The
jones
would
like
to
continue
operating
their
farm
to
table
dinner
venue
there.
They
they
host
events
and
dinner
events
and
other
gatherings
that
utilize
ingredients
in
the
food
that
are
either
grown
on
the
property
or
close
by
they
also
have
educational
and
participatory
facilities
and
events,
including
tours
hands-on,
dis
instruction
demonstrations
and
shows
they
host
banquets,
weddings
and
other
similar
parties.
K
On
september
on
september,
28th
and
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
voted
six
to
zero,
to
recommend
the
approval
of
the
special
use
permit,
with
five
conditions
listed
and
we'll
get
to
those
in
a
second.
Can
you
page
down
to
the
next
one,
there's
the
site
plan
for
the
agritourism
business?
It's
a
little
hard
to
read
it.
There
should
be
a
copy
of
it
in
your
packet,
though,
and
basically
the
northern
portion
there
other
than
the
parking
is
the
area
that
the
joneses
use
for
their
normal
day-to-day
living.
K
K
K
K
They
also
need
to
provide
an
access
path
to
the
rear
of
the
property,
at
least
12
feet
wide,
and
both
of
these
paths
need
to
stay
clear
from
one
hour
before
and
one
hour
after
any
event,
all
the
vehicles
associated
with
the
any
event
must
be
accommodated
on
the
subject
property
early
on
when
they
were
first
starting.
This
we
were
getting
some
complaints
about
parking
on.
K
The
road
have
not
had
any
complaints
in
well
since
then,
because
of
it,
but
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
felt
that
they
should
put
a
condition
on
there
that
they
must
park
on
their
own
property
maximum
capacity.
They
set
that
to
125
persons
per
event,
which
the
joneses
are
are.
Okay
with
typical
events
are
around
100
people
anyway,
and
all
activities
that
involve
the
production
or
creation
of
any
noise
need
to
cease
at
10
pm,
and
that
mirrors
the
county's
noise
ordinance
anyway.
K
K
Many
spoke
for
the
operation
said
it
was
a
great
benefit
to
kankakee
county
and
that
they
had
no
issues
with
with
the
operation
at
all,
and
there
were
a
few
that
did.
Mr
and
mrs
orange,
who
lived
directly
to
the
east,
did
have
some
complaints
about
privacy
and
some
complaints
about
event,
goers
trespassing
on
their
property.
K
Also,
some
issues
with
the
trash
blowing
around
I'm.
I
believe
a
lot
of
that
has
been
addressed,
though
matt
trotz,
the
fire
chief
of
the
grant
park
fire
district.
He
he
was
not.
He
didn't
speak
against
the
proposal,
but
did
state
that
there
were
some
fire
safety
issues
that
needed
to
be
addressed
and
any
of
those
will
be
addressed
in
step.
Two.
This
is
step
one
zoning
step.
K
If,
if
and
when
the
species
permit
is
approved,
then
we
will
get
together
with
the
joneses
and
discuss
the
need
for
bathrooms
and
where
they
would
be
and
issue
any
building
permits.
That
may
or
may
not
be
required,
and
there
was
one
other
mitch
hankiss
who
lived
a
few
thousand
feet
away.
I
believe
stated
that
this
is
a
business
to
make
money
and
didn't
feel
that
it
was
an
appropriate
use
in
a
mini
farm
community,
as
he
put
it.
K
A
We
really
felt
as
though
it
was
a
real
important
part
of
our
community
and
that
we
wanted
to
promote
it
throughout
and
help
all
our
businesses
and
then,
when
everybody
comes
out
to
visit
these
places,
they
see
how
nice
we
have
out
here
and
how
nice
things
are.
So
it
really
promotes
our
area
really
well,
so
you
know
when
they
they
bring
out
100
people,
they
probably
come
from
maybe
some
locally,
but
a
lot
of
them
come
from
somewhere
else
and
they
get
to
see
what
we
have
here.
A
J
K
J
J
K
A
A
N
I'm
rachel
jones
and
my
husband
and
I
own
look
of
our
farm
and
we
run
that
together
as
our
full-time
job,
along
with
our
kids,
our
table
is
built
for
a
hundred
guests
and
just
to
give
you
an
idea
in
terms
of
the
agricultural
component,
we
grow
the
food
based
on
70
people
per
week
or
100
people
per
week,
so
we've
kind
we
have
kind
of
outfitted.
That's
our
growing
capability,
because
this
is
about
agriculture
and
not
just
hosting
events.
N
N
N
B
A
Question
I
want
to
go
make
a
comment
to
mr
sirois
comment
there.
If
there's,
two
school
buses
show
up
with
the
kids
during
the
day,
just
an
example:
if
they
got
60
in
each
bus,
that's
125,
just
the
kids
alone,
not
to
mention
the
teachers
and
the
parents
and
everybody
else.
So
I
was
kind
of
thinking
that
was
kind
of
tight
to
what
they
thought
they
could
do,
but
most
places
don't
have
to
be.
A
You
know
with
the
mitigation
things
going
to
where
they
can
only
have
50
percent
of
their
capacity,
25
percent
of
their
capacity.
I'd
kind
of
like
to
see
us
go
with
a
higher
number.
My
opinion.
I
hate
to
change
things
here,
but
if,
if
we
gave
them
a
couple
hundred,
then
they
would
be
safe.
If
they
said
fifty
percent,
then
she
could
still
operate
if
her
capacity
was
two
hundred
in
the
state.
I
N
N
That
day
there's
been
times
when
it's
rained
and
people
just
you
know,
I'd
say
that
the
there's
where
our
outdoor
bar
is
there's
a
little
overhang
that
people
have
been
under,
but
it's
not
a
building,
so
the
barn
is
the
only
place
that
we
would
go
for
inclement
weather
and
we
have
about
14
events
a
year
and
thanks
be
to
god.
Most
of
those
have
been
sunny
days
and
that's
our
desire
is
to
be
just
steps
from
the
garden.
To
be
honest,
so
well.
I
A
A
M
Sure,
okay,
I
do
have
a
comment,
though,
if
I
may
sure
so
this
this
venue,
this
place,
is
quite
fantastic,
a
big
plus
for
us
for
the
county,
my
wife
and
I
children
go
out
here.
You
know
three
four
times
a
year.
I
really
enjoy
it.
Love
spending
that
time
outside
you
mentioned
earlier,
a
lot
of
people
come
from
out
of
the
area
and
get
to
see
what
we
have.
M
I
K
A
If
we
go
over
200
and
you
go
this
discussion
time-
you
go
over
200
cars,
I
mean
200
people
you're
going
to
have
now
you
got
100
cars
and
they
have
parking
for
85.
So
now
we
squeeze
that
situation
in
there
too.
So
most
people
come
with
their
kids.
Now
you
got
four
in
a
car.
So
do
you
really
have
you
know
100
cars
with
200
people.
I
K
A
The
other
thing
is,
this
has
to
go
through
a
building
permit
process
and
they'll
have
to
have
the
proper
amount
of
bathrooms
and
everything
for
the
people
that
they
have
capacity
for.
So
that's
something
that's
addressed
in
other
areas
here.
Our
part
of
this
game
is
to
take
care
of
this
special
use,
permit
and
keep
this
rolling
here.
So
all
right.
D
Procedural
question
is
the
motion
in
these
types
of
situations
is
to
accept
the
recommendations
of
zba
with
the
amendment
of
the
capacity
of
the
barn.
Is
that
the
way
that
we're
supposed
to
approve
these
to
because
they're
they
have
findings
in
here?
I'm
just
curious
on
the
way
that
the
motion
has
to
be
made.
K
A
C
A
F
K
A
K
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
also
like
to
commend
rachel
and
chris
jones
and
locavore
farms
for
their
unique
operation,
promoting
agriculture
and
their
agriculture
business.
That's
a
it's
a
great
gem
for
our
community
for
our
rural
rural
area
and
for
kinky
county,
and
it's
great
to
know
that
so
many
people
from
out
of
the
area
come
and
see
and
learn
about
agriculture
their
their
operation.
L
Obviously,
safety
and
sanitation
is
a
priority
with
you
know
the
oversight
from
the
county.
I
am
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
price
tag
of
some
of
these
conditions.
If
there's
a
new,
you
know
a
concrete
floor
for
a
4,
000
square
foot,
barn,
that's
going
to
be
costly.
A
paved
parking
lot
is
obviously
costly,
permanent
male
and
female
restrooms,
the
plumbing,
the
septic,
the
the
construction,
the
engineering,
the
the
architecture
for
all
of
that
is
going
to
have
a
price
tag.
L
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
that
this
might
be
not
exactly
a
precedent
but
but
showcasing
to
others
that
are
considering
this
unique
type
of
agricultural
business
that
they
may
crunch.
The
numbers
and
figure
that
or
the
profit
margins
are
so
thin
so
narrow,
especially
with
this
unpredictable
pandemic
situation
going
on.
L
Is
the
local
war
farms
going
to
be
able
to
invest
in
all
of
these
upgrades
to
their
agricultural
facility
and
still
make
a
profit,
I'm
a
little
concerned
with
the
potentially
burdensome
investment
that
requiring?
I
I
also
before
I.
In
my
comments.
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
would
agree
with
mr
skimmerhorn
that
we
tie
the
capacity
to
the
capacity
of
the
barn.
K
N
Was
just
yes,
I
was
just
gonna
comment
on.
I
I
understand
how
there's
a
benefit
of
tying
the
limit
to
the
barn.
The
only
thing
would
be
there
are
times
and
we
definitely
have
plenty
of
space
to
have
a
tent.
Let's
say
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
all
the
different
things
that
we
may
do
in
the
future.
If
we
are
able
to
if
by
chance
we
ever
got
a
barn
larger,
a
tent
larger
than
our
barn
out
there,
which
we
do
have
the
land
capability.
N
For,
let's
say
it
was
an.
I
don't
know
I
I
I'm
just
thinking
future
in
the
future.
Would
that
then,
as
definitely
see
tying
it
to
parking
capabilities,
but
I'm
just
saying
if
by
chance,
if
there
was
some
reason
why
we
used
a
tent,
you
know
out
there
and
the
tent
was
larger
than
our
barn,
which
would
probably
cost
as
much
as
our
barn.
N
If
I
ever
got
a
tent
that
large
that
may
limit
the
amount
of
people
like,
let's
say
we
could
did
have
a
tent
that
we
rented
a
tent
that
would
fit
200
people
or
let's
say
if
this
is
a
permanent
writing.
You
know,
if
you
guys,
are
putting
this
in
permanently.
At
this
point
in
time
I
was
just
bringing
that
up
right.
K
A
K
K
As
for
the
concrete
floor
in
the
barn,
the
health
department
has
mentioned
that
that
might
be
required
if
you're
serving
food
in
the
barn.
We
can't
really
do
anything
about
health
codes.
Those
codes
are
what
they
are
and
planning
and
zoning
committee
cannot
variance
vary
those
same
thing
with
the
bathrooms.
If
the
building
code
requires
bathrooms,
the
the
only
outlet
there
would
be
to
appeal
that
to
the
board
of
review.
A
C
A
So
if
you
go
to
200
or
150
or
180
or
whatever
it
is,
that
doesn't
have
the
expenses
too
high
mr
miller,
as
high
as
it
could
be.
If
you
went
to
300,
then
that
would
require
quite
a
bit
more
bathrooms
and
stuff,
but
if
they,
if
they
bring
in
a
tent,
I
believe
when
I've
got
intense,
they
have
a
capacity
to
tell
you
capacity
of
that
tent.
A
K
Also,
the
the
attendance
that
goes
high
enough
into
the
500
plus
range.
Our
ordinance
is
structured
that
additional
requirements
are
needed,
such
as
traffic
safety
plans
and
emergency
service
plans,
on-site
security
and
various
other
yeah.
Things
are
triggered
by
that.
So,
if
you
go
too
high
with
that
number
500
plus
then
yeah,
then
we'd
have
to
revisit
all
of
that.
A
N
I
K
Whether
they
could
use
portable
toilets
for
that,
I
don't.
I
do
not
know
at
this
time
the
issue
of
having
a
capacity
on
a
tent
that
we
do
not
even
know
what
the
capacity
of
that
tent
is
could
be
an
issue
and,
frankly,
in
inclement
weather
such
as
high
winds.
I'm
not
sure
that
if
you
had
300
people
in
a
tent
they're
all
going
to
try
to
try
to
go
into
the
barn
for
safety
or
shelter
that
that's
necessarily
a
good
idea
either.
K
A
A
A
B
A
K
D
You,
mr
chairman,
part
of
our
agreement
that
we
have
on
file
with
the
county
and
we
have
to
reauthorize.
Every
two
years
is
with
the
economic
alliance,
the
they
are
technically,
the
employees
of
the
economic
alliance
or
county
employees,
their
salary,
all
their
pay
is
paid
for
by
the
alliance
via
the
eda
and
the
the
revenue
that's
derived
out
of
the
area,
jobs,
ken
hayes.
D
You
know
that
building
over
there,
the
old
roper
building
they
rent,
that's
rented
out
in
the
proceeds
after
building
maintenance
and
everything
are
used
for
economic
development.
In
this
case
they
have
an
employee
who
is
moving
on
lisa
logan
is
going
to
be
leaving
the
alliance
and
they
have
selected
through
an
interview
process.
D
They
have
selected
the
person
that
they
would
want
to
have
replaced
them
and
then
I'm
on
the
executive
board
that
would
have
replaced
lisa.
Excuse
me
and
part
of
the
I,
the
intergovernmental
agreement,
if
you
will
is
for
us
to
be
approved
that
person
that
goes
into
those
position
know
that
we
don't
pay
any
of
the
salary
they
just
get
benefits
from
the
county.
So
our
role
here
is
to
basically
stamp
the
approval,
but
the
interview
process
and
the
selection
process
lies
with
the
economic
alliance.
So
it's
it's
a.
D
It
is
a
true
public
private
partnership
in
that
manner,
but
since
they
get
benefits
from
the
county
and
not
salary,
we
have
to
approve
it
here
on
this
level
as
part
of
that
agreement.
So
this
individual
is
angela
mori.
She
is
currently
the
head
of
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
she's
moving
into
the
role
of
director
of
marketing
and
business
attraction
at
the
alliance,
they'll
run
parallel
for
a
while.
We
won't
be
paying
again
double
benefits.
A
B
A
C
L
A
A
C
A
D
You,
mr
chairman,
now
that
this
is
old
business.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
to
the
committee
that
the
joneses
and
local
war
farms
went
to
great
expense
to
go
through
this
process
to
do
this,
the
right
way.
So
now
it's
us
to
up
to
us
as
board
members,
because
we
know
that
these
things
are
going
on
in
other
properties
within
the
county.
D
We
have
to
get
them
into
this
process
as
well,
okay,
because
they
would
have
a
distinct
business
advantage
over
local
war
farms
if
they
weren't
doing
things
the
right
way
and
doing
agritourism,
I've
heard
of
banquet
facilities
and
wedding
facilities
out
in
the
rural
areas.
So
I
would
just
say,
board
members
we
need
to
let
dell
know
if
we
hear
or
see
of
those
types
of
things,
because
it
just
would
not
be
fair
to
the
joneses
who
have
spent
a
lot
and
we'll
spend
more
to
get
this.
This
business
up
and
going
as.
D
K
K
A
And
we
want
to
help
them
be
able
to
market
very
properly
and
have
to
compete
in
an
open
market.
Okay,
under
new
business,
we
have
12
openings
on
the
kenky
county,
regional
planning,
commission,
okay
and
then
anything
else.
Otherwise,
an
entertaining
motion
to
adjourn
be
miss
polk
and
mr
payton,
all
in
favor
say
aye.
Yes,
all
right!