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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Meeting 4/20/2017 9:00AM
A
B
A
A
Motion
to
approve
would
be
an
order.
Mr
washington.
Second,
mr
ritter,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carried.
Is
there
any
public
comment
this
morning?
I
have
none
in
front
of
me.
Okay,
going
on
to
zoning
zba
case
1607,
whoa
building
report.
You
know
I've
I've
gotten
I've
gotten
out
of
the.
C
There
we
go
and
your
packet
is
the
building
division
report
for
march
of
2017
a
few
highlights
here.
We
had
we
issued
three
building
permits
for
new
homes,
with
a
valuation
of
757
thousand
dollars
and
collected
six
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
in
fees,
for
that
our
total
permits
for
the
month
was
53
with
a
valuation
of
1.6
million,
and
we
collected
for
the
month.
Fourteen
thousand
and
ninety
nine
dollars
in
these.
Oh
excuse
me,
I
actually
for
the
month,
was
16
729,
total
fees
for
the
month.
A
Any
questions
motion
to
approve
the
building
report-
miss
peters
second
by
mr
tripp.
Any
discussion
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carried
now
all
righty
on
to
zoning
zba
case
1607
requests
for
a
text,
amendment
to
county
code,
section
121-3
and
121-99
to
allow
solar
farms
as
a
special
use
in
the
a1
agricultural
district.
The
petitioner
is
kankee
county.
C
All
right
over
the
past
year,
we've
had
a
lot
of
inquiries
in
the
office
about
the
possibilities
of
constructing
solar
farms
in
our
county.
When
we
looked
at
our
ordinance,
we
realized
that
it
is
not
a
permitted
use
in
any
district
in
our
county,
so
we
decided.
We
should
probably
change
that
and
we've
wrote
an
amendment
to
the
ordinance
that
will
allow
solar
farms
to
be
a
special
use
permit
in
the
a1
agricultural
district.
C
Little
bit
of
a
background
here,
there's
only
one
that
we're
aware
of
operating
solar
farm
in
the
state
of
illinois
and
that's
the
grand
ridge
solar
farm
over
in
lasalle
county
near
streeter.
That's
a
160
acre
facility
and
generates
20
megawatts
of
electricity
not
too
far
from
here.
So
if
you
ever
want
to
visit
it,
it's
pretty
close.
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C
So
we
almost
nobody
had
solar
farms
in
their
ordinance
in
illinois,
so
we
really
couldn't.
We
did
get
lasalle
county's
ordinance,
but
we
didn't
have
much
to
go
on,
so
we
we
also
got
ordinances
from
around
the
country.
Apparently,
north
carolina
has
a
lot
of
seller
farms
and
some
really
good
ordinances.
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C
They
must
meet
all
building
and
electrical
codes.
Power
and
communication
lines
must
be
underground,
wherever
possible
on-site.
The
transmission
lines
leaving
the
site
do
not
have
to
be
during
the
zoning
board
of
appeals.
Hearing
and
after
I
had
attended
a
meeting
up
at
the
farm
bureau
in
will
county
a
few
weeks
ago.
C
We
noticed
that
there
was
a
few
items
in
our
proposed
ordinance
that
really
should
have
been
changed
and
I've
highlighted
those
in
red.
They
may
not
be
in
your
copies,
because
I
never
changed
the
original
report
so
I'll
highlight
those
to
you
as
we
go.
Originally,
we
had
a
minimum
lot
size
of
20
acres
I
which
putting
this
together,
we
thought
was
a
a
great
minimum
lot
size
for
one
of
these,
I
later
learned
that
actually
five
acres
can
be
done,
what
they
call.
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C
Okay,
well,
keep
that
in
mind
when
you
vote
later
yeah,
if
you
want
to
add
that
make
sure
it
gets
on
the
motion.
Okay
lighting
must
be
shielded
and
downcast.
They
have
told
me.
I've
actually
talked
to
the
to
the
companies
that
build
these
there's
almost
little
or
no
lighting
on
these
because
they
don't
operate
at
night.
C
Noise
levels,
measured
at
the
property
line,
shall
not
exceed
50
decibels
and
that's
actually
part
of
our
ordinance
to
begin
with,
for
all
noise
levels
anywhere
and
they.
I
have
actually
seen
a
study
on
this.
The
only
thing,
the
only
part
of
these
facilities
that
actually
make
any
noise
is
the
interconnect
and
if
you're
more
than
50
feet
away
from
it,
you
won't
hear
that
so
and
they
try
to
put
those
in
the
middle
of
the
site
so
that
they
obviously
don't
harm
anyone.
C
We've
asked
we
we,
we
did
have
a
mention
in
here
about
glare
and
we've
decided
to
just
strike
that
off
completely
because
it's
already
included
in
our
performance
standards
in
the
ordinance
anyway,
but
you're
not
allowed
to
produce
any
glare.
That
would
affect
your
neighbors,
so
it
was
kind
of
redundant
to
have
it
in
there
in
the
first
place
and
the
course
number
11
is
that
they
have
to
comply
with
all
of
our
performance
standards.
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A
B
C
Now
they
do
have
other
types
of
foundations
if
they're
in
a
very
loose
sandy
soil
or
the
depths
of
bedrock,
is
very
shallow,
they
can
do
other
things,
including
concrete,
but
they
don't
like
to
use
concrete.
So
these
go
up
very
quickly.
They
actually
have
a
crew
that
goes
in
and
and
surveys
the
site
and
puts
a
a
paint
mark
everywhere.
A
pole
has
to
be
driven
in.
Another
crew,
comes
behind
them
with
a
little
machine
that
drives
those
in,
and
a
crew
comes
behind
that
and
puts
the
racks
onto
the
poles.
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C
Signage,
we
didn't
want
a
bunch
of
signs
all
over
these
ruining
the
aesthetics
of
the
area,
so
we're
limiting
them
to
only
a
identification
sign
that
will
that
must
include
the
911
address
and
a
24-hour
emergency
contact.
Number
outdoor
storage
on
the
site
is
limited
to
materials
that
would
typically
be
used
for
a
solar
farm.
We
didn't
want
somebody
also
deciding
that
the
ground
really
wasn't
being
used
around
them
and
creating
a
junkyard
or
something
else
of
that
nature.
So
it's
really
just
a
catch-all
there
to
protect
ourselves.
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C
With
some
type
of
hail,
that
would
would
make
that
not
true,
I
don't
know,
okay
need
a
site
plan
of
the
proposed
conditions.
What
are
they
intending
to
do?
Where
are
these
panels
going
to
go?
Where's
the
interconnect
going
to
go,
show
the
setbacks,
any
access,
roads
or
access
points
into
the
site,
where's
the
fence
going
to
be
because
it's
my
understanding
that
they
won't
necessarily
use
an
entire
piece
of
property.
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A
farmer
may
have
80
acres,
but
they'll
only
lease
30,
40
60
of
it.
What
they're
going
to
use
the
farmer
can
still
use
the
remainder,
no
sense
we
would.
We
would
not
make
them
fence
in
the
entire
80
acres,
only
the
area
that
they're
using
weed
and
grass
control
and
that
more
than
glare
actually
seems
to
be
one
of
the
biggest
complaints
about
these
type
of
facilities.
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C
Number
three
here
is
a
just
like
our
wind
farms.
We
don't
really
know
what
these
facilities
are
going
to
do
to
the
roads
during
the
construction
phase,
so
we
are
asking
them
for
a
road
use
agreement
from
the
appropriate
road
jurisdictions.
Now
it
may
not
be
as
elaborate
of
an
agreement
that
they
have
with
the
wind
farms,
but
we
want
them
to
talk
to
them
and
come
to
some
type
of
an
agreement
that
they
can
present
to
us
so
that
both
sides
are
happy.
C
They
need
to
show
us
how
they're
going
to
install
them.
So
if
there
is
going
to
be
any
concrete
in
the
foundations,
we
want
to
know
that
we
need
the
locations
and
the
method
of
installation
for
all
the
major
equipment
number
five,
the
number
of
panels
to
be
installed.
I
was
actually
asked
by
one
of
the
construction
companies
the
builders
of
these
things,
to
remove
that
one
because
they
did
not
want
to
be
in
violation
of
their
special
use
permit.
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C
But
I
was
asked
by
our
assessment
office
and
it
made
some
sense
for
the
planning
office.
Instead,
we
added
in
an
itemized
cost
estimate
of
the
entire
construction
cost
of
the
project
that
will
help
us
determine
what
the
building
permit
will
be.
It
will
help
the
assessment
office
when
it
comes
time
to
develop
an
assessment
and
a
market
value.
C
A
description
of
how
the
solar
array
will
be
connected
to
the
grid
or
the
to
well
get
to
a
building
or
substation.
How
is
it
going
to
be
connected
in
and
a
demonstration
that
they
have
the
interconnect
or
they
are
working
on
the
interconnect
agreement
with
the
power
company?
They
do
not
have
to
have
the
agreement
at
the
time
of
the
application,
but
they
do
have
to
show
us
that
they
are
in
the
process
of
getting
it.
Those
interconnect
agreements
can
take
quite
some
time
to
get.
C
Decommissioning
security,
fight
financing
shall
be
required
by
the
county
in
order
to
assure
the
proper
decommissioning
of
the
site,
and
in
no
instance,
shall
the
financial
security
be
less
than
1
000
per
acre
talking
with
them.
They've
already
started
just
like
the
wind
farms
did
saying
that
these
facilities
have
a
positive
value
and
therefore
we
wouldn't
have
to
give
you
a
bond,
because
the
scrap
value
of
the
materials
greatly
outweighs
the
cost
of
removing
it
all,
and
I
said
that's
great-
we
still
want
something.
C
That's
going
to
protect
us,
so
if
you
don't
think
a
thousand
dollars
per
acre
is
I
I
just
pulled
that
out
of
the
air.
So
if
you
don't
think
that's
enough,
we
can
make
that
a
different
number,
but
that
would
be
80
000
on
an
80
acre
parcel.
It
would
give
us
something
if
it
turns
out
that
the
scrap
value
is
more
than
the
value,
then
we
didn't
need
it.
Yes,
sir.
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C
I
have
not
seen
a
decommissioning
plan
for
solar
farm.
I
have
not
seen
one
yet
so
I
couldn't
say
I
modeled
this
after
the
wind
farm
ordinance
and
the
cost
to
decommission
that.
What
they
have
to
do
is
give
us
a
plan
which
is
their
estimates
of
what
scrap
value
will
be
in
20,
30,
40
years
cost
of
labor
there's
a
whole
lot
of
assumptions
that
go
into
that.
So
they
all.
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C
It's
actually
in
increments
of
like
five
year,
increments:
okay,
okay,
so
because
the
life
expectancy
of
one
of
these
facilities
20
plus
years-
but
that
doesn't
mean
somebody
won't
walk
away
in
five.
So
they
give
us
a
5,
10,
15,
20
estimate,
and
but
the
decommissioning
is,
the
bond
itself
is
based
on
the
20..
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C
Yes,
yes,
there
is
fees
and
cost.
We
didn't
feel
normally
a
special
use,
permit
application
cost
600,
and
we
did
not
feel
that
that
was
going
to
be
necessarily
adequate
to
bring
the
special
use
permit
for
one
of
these
facilities
all
the
way
through
the
system.
So
we
are
asking
that
that
be
changed
to
five
thousand
dollars.
We
do
not
know
at
this
point
and
it
could
be
on
a
case-by-case
basis
if
we
might
have
to
hire
any
legal
help
or
expert
witnesses
rent
any
rooms
because
of
large
crowds.
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J
Did
convert?
Is
it
on
lasalle
county
did
convert
the
acreage
to
a
more
com,
commercial
or
industrial
rate
than
the
the
preferential
assessment
on
farmland
for
that
for
that
purpose.
So
at
this
moment,
given
that
that's
the
only
known
valuation
method,
I
would
look
to
emulate
that
at
this
point
until
until
or
unless
something
changes,
and
we
have
a
better
system
to
do
that.
J
Yes,
I
mean
that
that
that
was
the
agreement
worked
out
in
lasalle
county
is
that
the
bill
is
sent
to
the
land
owner
and
and
it
is
to
be
paid.
I
believe
the
landowner
has
an
agreement
with
the
solar
energy
company.
Okay
and
the
solar
energy
company
actually
pays
the
bill,
but
the,
but
the
bill
goes
to
the
land
owner.
J
It's
a
substantial
assessment
and
that,
actually,
to
be
honest
with
you,
is
only
26.5
percent
of
the
value.
The
overall
value
of
the
project,
because
most
of
what
is
there
is
deemed
to
be
personal
property,
but
what's
left
as
real
property
still
still
makes
up
about
26
or
26,
and
a
half
percent
of
the
project.
J
But
I'd
like
that
to
be
part
of
a
legislative
effort
to
do
that,
statewide
to
try
to
protect
the
land
owner.
But
at
this
point
the
the
facility
in
lasalle
those
landowners
were
comfortable
or
that
landowner
was
comfortable
receiving
the
bill
and
then
having
the
solar
energy
company
pay
it,
and
to
this
point
it
has
been
paid.
I'm
not
aware
of
any
issues
that
that
have
occurred
over
there
in
lasalle.
K
Yeah,
just
a
quick
recommendation:
I've
done
a
number
of
these
solar
farms
in
north
carolina
and
part
of
the
expense
you
mentioned.
I
would
just
recommend,
I
don't
know
who's
doing
the
electrical
reviews
and
inspections,
but
you
might
want
to
get
them
some
training
on
how
to
properly
review
those
it's
a
lot
different
than
commercial
or
installation,
or
something
like
that.
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C
As
the
chairman
mentioned,
this
is
a
request
for
a
special
use
permit
for
a
campground
on
a
10-acre
trek
in
pembroke
township,
and
also
a
request
for
a
variance
for
two
driveways
in
a
330
foot
interval
and
a
an
accessory
structure
in
the
front
yard
back
in
around
november
or
excuse
me.
It
was
october
our
office
received
a
phone
call
from
a
concerned,
citizen
of
pembroke
township
telling
us
that
someone
was
building
three
homes
out
in
the
woods.
C
We
went
out
there
and
investigated
and
found
out
that
it
wasn't
homes.
It
was
actually
three
cabins
a
pavilion,
an
outhouse,
a
well
and
a
u-shaped
driveway.
I
do
not
have
any
aerial
photography
that
shows
any
of
that,
so
I
approximated,
where
it
all,
was
and
drew
it
on
top
of
our
aerial
photo.
So
you
can
see
there
on
the
map.
The
purple
line
is
the
u-shaped
driveway,
the
blue
air.
The
blue
dot
is
the
approximate
location
of
the
sandpoint.
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C
Number
two:
the
property
is
to
be
used
for
recreational
purposes.
Only
and
living
quarters
are
not
to
be
used
as
permanent
three.
If
the
special
use
permit
is
granted,
the
owner
applicant
shall
obtain
and
abide
by
all
permits
and
licenses,
as
required
by
federal
state
and
local
government
and
number
four.
A
sign
indicating
private
property
is
to
be
installed
by
the
entrance
to
the
site
that
was
requested
by
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
itself.
C
C
C
Well,
during
the
testimony
they
don't
intend
to
have
a
septic
which
they
currently
do
not
have.
They
have
an
outhouse
and
it's
their
intention
to
bring
porta-potties
portable
toilets
to
the
site
and
have
them
periodically
empty
and
remove
the
pressure,
remove
the
outhouse
and
it
went
back
and
forth
on
the
well
and
I'm
not
sure
exactly
where
they
ended
up
at
one
point.
They
were
going
to
remove
the
well
and
not
have
water
there
and
just
haul
it
in
at
another
point.
C
C
H
C
C
I
told
him
that
he
could
send
a
letter
if
he'd
like
if
he
objected
to
it
or
he
could
show
up
at
the
public
hearing,
and
he
was
not
sure
what
his
feelings
were
at
that
time
as
to
whether
he
was
for
it
or
against
it.
He
was
kind
of
on
the
fence.
I
told
if,
if
his
opinion
changed
or
if
he
wanted
to
to
do
one
of
those
those
two
actions
and
neither
one
occurred
so
were.
D
There
were
times
in
the
past
where,
in
that
general
area
general
area
that
they
had
weekend
things
that
people
from
chicago
and
all
over
the
place
bill.
You
remember
that
not
too
many
years
ago,
and
it
was
quite
a
thing
to
control
who
will
control
this,
who
will
patrol
it
county
sheriff
and
we
don't
have
anybody
there.
So,
okay.
I
C
D
A
C
G
C
G
C
G
G
G
A
C
E
C
A
C
F
C
C
C
Yeah,
I
think
it
depends
on
the
reason,
if
you
don't
feel
that
there
it
has
been
thoroughly
investigated
or
that
there
are
more
facts
to
be
considered.
It
needs
to
go
back
to
zoning
board
because
that's
where
those
need
to
be
deliberated,
if
you
would
just
like
more
time
to
think
about
it
yourself,
you
could
just
vote
to
continue
it
and
bring
it
back
at
the
next
pca.
C
A
A
A
Okay,
mr
washington
seconded
it
any
further
discussion
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carried
to
the
person
in
the
back
who
wanted
to
speak.
We
can
only
allow
that
during
the
public
speaking
portion,
that's
at
the
beginning
of
the
committee
meeting.
Just
so
you
understand.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
A
M
M
M
M
We
have
a
project
overview
that
reviews
the
scope
and
methodology
methodology
of
the
report,
the
history
of
the
county,
notable
historic
properties
and
sites
goals
and
strategic
strategies
and
a
bibliography
and
the
appendix.
We
have
several
existing
landmarks
that
the
board
that
the
commission
has
already
land
marked.
We
have
the
courthouse
in
nine
in
2009,
durham,
perry,
farm
in
2013.,
laterno
home
in
12,
and
then
our
most
recent
was
a
limestone
cemetery
in
2015..
M
M
M
M
M
We
held
six
public
hearings
meetings,
they
weren't
mr
hearings
in
moments,
mantino
roma
park,
hirscher,
bourbon
and
kankakee.
They
were
invited.
We
invited
township
officials,
village
city
officials
and
any
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
inform
us
of
any
significant
areas
that
they
would
like
us
to
study.
M
M
That
partnership
would
be
with
municipalities
in
trying
to
work
with
them,
to
landmark
structures
and
or
properties
in
their
jurisdiction
that
we
don't
have
jurisdiction
in
that
would
be
with
intergovernmental
agreements.
Right
now
we
do
have
one
intergovernmental
agreement,
and
that
is
with
the
city
of
kankakee.
M
M
Our
information
was
accumulated
by
the
consultant
for
the
final
document.
Financing
was
in
part
from
the
federal
funds
of
the
department
of
interior
administrator
administrated
by
the
illinois,
historic
preservation
agency
and
through
a
grant
for
them
from
the
community
valley,
kankakee
valley,
community
foundation.
M
So
if
anybody
has
any
questions,
I
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
approve
it
today,
I
gave
you
a
lot
there's
a
lot
of
information
in
here.
So
you
know,
if
anybody
wanted
to
you
know
we
can
bring
it
back
once
everybody's
had
time
to
review
it,
but
we
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
preservation
plan
and,
like
I
said
it
has
been
approved
by
the
state,
we're
just
getting
the
county
board's
blessing.
What's.
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
know
several
people
on
this
historic
preservation
committee
and
I
know
they've
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
it.
It
is
one
thing
that
doesn't
get
maybe
as
much
attention
because
some
see
it
as
a
very
special
area
kind
of
a
niche
area
of
the
county,
but
it
is
one
that
indeed
can
have
some
very
positive
benefits
for
the
county.
So
I
I
would
applaud
the
work
that
the
commission
has
done.
Okay,.
M
The
next
step
was
we
applied.
If
you
recall,
back
in
january
or
february,
we
brought
back.
I
we
applied
for
sdlg
grant
for
2017
to
do
an
intensive
historic
survey
and
we're
going
to
do
these
by
township,
because
there
is
so
much
work
to
be
done
on
them
and
they
are
very,
they
can
be
costly,
so
we're
doing
it.
This
one
was
for
pilot
township
that
we
applied,
for.
We
did
get
notification
earlier
this
month
that
we
were
approved
by
the
state.
For
that
funding.
M
G
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
was
a
founding
member
of
the
commission
and
they
do
do
very
good
work.
I
the
only
comment
I
have
michelle
and
you
probably
already
know
what
I'm
going
to
say
is,
but
our
our
historic
preservation
ordinance
that
we
adapted,
I
believe
in
2009,
has
a
lot
of
teeth.
It
is
one
of
the
strongest
historic
preservation
ordinances.
L
We
got
it
basically
as
a
template
from
the
state,
and
I
would
encourage
the
commission
to
look
at
ways
that
they
can
assist
the
county
in
doing
more,
hands-on
preservation,
I.e,
making
sure
people
don't
tear
things
down
and
screw
them
up
by
way
of
some
kind
of
review,
and
I
don't
see
that
anywhere
in
the
plan.
So
just
a
comment,
I
don't
I
don't
disagree
with
the
plan
itself.
Just
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
more,
that
the
commission
could
do
in
terms
of
preservation,
real
enforcement.
Yes,.
G
Wheeler,
thank
you
along
those
lines.
Maybe
the
if
that
is
something
the
commission
desires.
They
can
send
a
representative
to
the
mayor's
meeting,
and
that
would
be
a
good
opportunity
to
present
that
idea
on
a
intergovernmental
agreement
with
everybody
where
they
at
least
utilize
the
commission
for
the
service
they
could
provide.
Okay,.
I
M
M
C
Okay,
bill
just
just
informational.
I
have
asked
michelle
about-
probably
I
guess
about
a
week
ago
to
start
looking
at
a
process
for
our
inspectors
to
include
historic
preservation
in
the
in
their
review
process.
Of
course,
we
have
very
limited
staff,
not
a
lot
of
resources,
so
I
don't
know
how
that
program
is
going
to
work
out
yet,
but
I
have
had
asked
her
to
look
into
what
what
it
would
take
to
do
that.
I
don't
believe
you
want
the
historic
preservation
committee
to
review
every
permit
and
demolition
permit.
We
get.
C
As
you
know,
last
month
was
53..
I
don't
think
that's
the
way
to
go.
We're
going
to
have
to
come
up
with
some
type
of
criteria
that
triggers
when
it
would
go
to
the
historic
preservation
commission
for
review,
and
I've
asked
michelle
to
look
into
what
that's
going
to
take
and
what
that'll
do
so.
Hopefully
we
can
come
back
to
you
with
a
recommendation
later
good.
Thank
you
ready.
A
For
the
question,
all
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
closed
motion
carried
going
on
to
old
business,
the
reappointment
of
elizabeth
scanlon
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals.
These
are
recommendations,
so
we
don't
have
to
vote
on
these.
Okay,
any
comments
on
those
all
right
under
new
business.
The
pca
meeting
dates.
I
think
our
chairman
is
going
to
address
that.
G
If
anybody
has
any
comment
on
this,
please
feel
free
to
speak
up
with.
I
was
approached
by
a
nameless
individual
who
had
it
no
he's,
he
does
well
what
he's
in
florida.
We
call
him
certain
things,
yes,
no,
but
no,
when
he
has
about
speaking
with
the
highway
department,
and
it
would
be
a
good
idea
for
both
of
the
planning
pca,
zba
operations
and
the
highway
department.
The
way
things
line
up
to
move
the
meeting
dates
around
a
little
bit
for
both
of
those
committees.
G
We
brought
it
up
yesterday
at
buildings
and
highways
about
moving
them
to
the
day
after
criminal
justice,
and
they
were
all
good
with
that.
The
other
thing
would
be.
This
committee
meeting
would
move
to
well
yesterday,
basically
to
to
allow
the
zba
and
everything
else
to
line
up
a
little
bit
better
in
that
process.
So
we
wouldn't
do
this
until
july.
We
wanted
to
give
people
time
to
adjust
their
schedules,
but
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
no
glaring
problems
with
the
committee
before
we
did
that.
G
K
G
A
G
A
G
G
G
G
I
would
have
to
appoint
you
officially
from
the
county
because
at
this
point,
you're
really
not
appointed
or
you're
an
unofficial
official
member
of
the
committee,
it's
kind
of
in
that
limbo
land,
so
we've
never
taken
that
action.
So
I
I
would
just
want
to
put
it
to
the
committee
that
you
know
with
a
head
nod
that
normally
they
would
come
before
us
here,
but
we
didn't
have
time
to
get
it
in
that
pipeline.