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Planning, Zoning & Agriculture Committee Meeting 11/16/2022 9:00am
A
Okay,
we
will
call
this
planning
zone
and
agriculture
committee
meeting
to
order
November
16
2022..
We
will
start
with
a
roll
call
Mr.
B
A
Great,
thank
you.
Kelly
second
item
on
the
agenda
is
public
comment.
Is
there
any
public
comment
there
be
none
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
public
comment,
we'll
move
to
item
three
approval
of
the
October
19th
2022
meeting
minutes,
Mr
kirkstra
and
Mr
eckhoff,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed,
say,
nay,
okay,
great,
the
minutes
are
approved.
Item
number
four
building
building
report
for
October
2022
Dell.
C
Okay,
you
should
have
it
turn
on
number
three
there.
You
should
have
a
copy
of
the
October
building
report
in
your
packet
in
October,
we
had
permit
for
one
new
home
issued
101
total
permits
and
brought
in
revenue
of
thirty
four
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars.
A
All
right,
if
not
thank
you,
Dell
item
number:
five.
Okay,
we
gotta
approve
the
building
reports,
all
those
okay,
Mr,
hilderan,
sander,
Mr
Fairfield,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
both
say,
nay
great.
Thank
you.
Thanks,
Dell,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
five
on
the
agenda.
Zoning
zba
case
number
22-17.
Yes,.
C
This
is
a
request
for
a
variance
to
section
121-281.c
of
the
county
code
in
regards
to
setbacks
for
ponds
properties
owned
by
Mr,
James
girth.
C
He
came
in
about
I
guess
about
two
years
ago
now
get
a
permit
for
to
build
a
pond
on
the
North
End
of
the
property
outlined
in
red
turned
in
his
all
of
his
plans.
We
approved
them.
They
were
engineering
Plans
by
piggish
engineering.
We
approved
them,
went
out
for
our
inspection
near
the
end
and
and
found
out
that
he
had
moved
the
pond
about
40
feet
closer
to
the
road
than
what
you
actually
see
on
that
aerial
photo
there.
The
ordinance
says
that
ponds
need
to
be
man-made.
C
His
reasoning
behind
it
was
that
when
he,
when
they
were
started,
digging
it
out
towards
the
West
End,
they
found
buried,
concrete
and
building
materials
and
couldn't
go
any
further,
so
they
moved
it
East
without
knowing
that
they
were
not
following
the
plans
and
that
that
would
be
a
problem.
This
went
before
the
zoning
board
last
Monday
and
they
voted
5-0
to
recommend
approval.
C
C
But
myself
and
chairman
wheeler
visited
the
site
a
few
months
ago.
The
main
reason
for
the
setbacks
there's
two
of
them.
One
is
so
that
cars
leaving
the
roadway,
don't
end
up
underwater
and
based
on
the
trajectory
of
the
road
and
the
geometry
there
we've
and
the
fact
there's
a
berm
there's
trees.
The
likelihood
of
that
happening
was
slim
to
none
and
the
other
part
of
it,
of
course,
is
the
Wetland
issue.
C
The
private
ponds
have
a
nasty
tendency
of
eventually
becoming
an
actual
Wetland,
and
once
that
happens,
it
does
change
how
Road
improvements
may
be
done
on
a
road.
That's
why
we
have
a
one
another,
one
of
the
reasons
we
have
a
larger
setback
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
through
all
of
those
Environmental
issues.
When
we
improve
a
road
anyway,
the
zoning
board
recommends
approval
five
to
zero
foreign.
D
It
looks
like
the
Zona
board
has
approved
it,
I'm
hearing,
yes,
the
tad
bit
of
reservation,
but
but
he
had
an
approval
from
you
as
well.
So
your
under
your
professionalism,
dealing
with
the
coin
on
par,
how
you
tilt
it
well.
C
I,
don't
get
a
vote,
I
mean
my
opinion.
Everyone
should
follow
the
rules
at
all
at
all
times.
You
know,
but
there
are
reasons
why
you
can't.
D
C
The
fact
that
all
that
concrete
that
they
found
buried
there
is
probably
a
legitimate
reason.
That's
a
that's
for
you
to
decide
all.
D
Right:
okay,
yeah!
That's
why
we
give
you
a
little
tilting,
so
we
as
you're
informing
us,
we
can
make
decisions
I!
You
know,
because
I'm,
a
person
that
believes
a
person
has
a
property.
Let's
let
them
utilize
it,
but
also
I
have
to
make
sure
it's
in
the
greater
good
of
the
individuals
that
lives
around
them.
So
if.
C
D
E
Thank
you
Mr
chairman
Dell.
Did
we
was
there
any
kind
of
study
done
to
any,
since
we
are
so
close
to
the
road
there?
Is
there
any
possibility
of
any
type
of
overflow
or
anything.
E
C
A
D
C
We
are
on
the
wrong
slide.
There
should
be
the
second
one
in
the
deck.
Third,
there
you
go
all
right.
This
is
a
request
by
Tyler
and
Gina
deeney
and
James
E
Smith
Jr
and
Daryl
Smith
Mr
Daryl
Smith
used
to
own
this
property.
It
was
a
20
acre
parcel
had
two
homes
on
it,
one
on
the
east
side,
one
on
the
West
Side,
that's
probably
about
a
year
ago,
he
divided
into
210.3
acre
parcels
and
sold
those
to
the
other
individuals.
C
At
that
time,
his
real
estate
agent
had
asked
us
the
question
if
it
could
be
divided-
and
of
course
we
said
yes,
but
didn't
go
any
further
into
to
elaborate
on
what
steps
might
need
to
be
taken.
So,
according
to
the
Plaid
act,
you
can
divide
any
property
into
five
acre
tracks
or
more
providing
you're,
not
creating
any
New,
Roads
or
easements,
which
these
are
two
10
acre
tracks
with
Road
Frontage.
So
from
a
plaid
X
standpoint,
they
were
able
to
be
divided.
C
However,
they
did
not
meet
our
zoning
ordinance,
which,
for
a
home
in
the
A1
district,
is
currently
zoned.
A1
agriculture
is
a
minimum
of
20
acres
for
a
home,
so
the
appropriate
Zoning
for
these
two
Parcels
at
10
acres,
apiece
with
a
home
on
each
one,
is
the
A2
district,
and
that
is
what
Mr
Smith
is
asking
for.
Today.
C
A
Thank
you,
Dell
any
questions
or
discussion
on
this
case.
D
E
G
E
C
Mr
Smith
is
doing
this
instead
of
the
property
owners.
I,
don't
know
that
that
question
came
up
at
zoning
board,
but
he
was
the
former
owner
who
sold
it
to
these
people.
I
think
he's
just
trying
to
correct
it.
C
A
Would
you
approve
okay
and
Mr
eckhoff
for
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
same
sign
all
right,
it's
approved.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
doll
and
staff
for
your
research
and
helping
those
those
cases
we'll
move
to
number
six
on
the
agenda
planning,
E-Waste
intergovernmental
agreement.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
so
I
I
did
hand
out
something
to
the
the
committee
today
and
I
kind
of
want
to
step
a
little
bit
back
on
E-Waste,
mainly
for
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
program
kind
of
and
and
what
we
discussed
a
couple
years
ago
when
we
kicked
it
off
and
why
we've
got
this
this
renewal
in
front
of
you
the
way
it
is
fundamentally,
the
goal
for
us
has
been
to
reduce
the
overall
cost
of
E-Waste
collection.
G
Formerly
Karma
ran
two
E-Waste
collection
sites
within
Kankakee
County.
They
paid
a
lot
more
than
we
pay
collectively.
So
when
we
approached
them,
we
found
there
was
some
just
immediate
cost
savings
there,
but
I
think
the
the
fundamental
goal
for
us-
and
we
were
when
we
were
directed
by
chairman
wheeler-
was
to
get
it
down
to
about
a
dollar
per
resident
in
the
county.
If
we
spend
a
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
on
an
E-Waste
collection
and
everybody
can
get
their
their
waste
collected,
that
seemed
to
be
fair.
G
So
in
kicking
off
the
program,
we
put
a
little
bit
more
money
on
the
front
end.
Our
budget
was
right
around
135
000
for
the
first
couple
years
we
did
and
and
one
of
the
sheet
what
sides
of
the
sheets
you
have
on
the
outside
shows
kind
of
what
our
our
programming
looked
like.
We
did
the
the
magnets.
We
did
the
buck
slips.
We
did
the
radio
ads
billboards
now
that
people
know
more
about
E-Waste.
G
Our
goal
is
to
kind
of
scale
that
back
do
a
little
more
gorilla
kind
of
marketing
where
we'd
use
our
our
social
media
platforms.
We
use
our
partners
Jasmine's
working
very
heavily
with
a
lot
of
our
partners
when
we
create
content.
They
share
that
content
and
it
just
kind
of
keeps
recirculating
through
the
community.
But
we
don't
know
that
we
need
to
necessarily
spend
as
much
money
in
direct
cost
and
the
Billboards
are
expensive
radio's
expensive.
G
We
still
might
do
box
slips.
We
still
might
do
magnets.
We
still
want
to
be
out
in
the
community
doing
events
but
trying
to
do
it
at
a
little
more
cost
effective.
So
we
we
built
a
new
budget
and-
and
now
now
we
have
a
budget
and
kind
of
the
second
directive
from
from
chairman
wheeler,
was
to
make
sure
that
towns
that
we're
paying
for
this
are
receiving
the
benefit.
G
You
know
if
you
live
in
a
town
that
isn't
paying
for
it,
there's
a
direct
cost
to
you
as
a
as
a
homeowner,
but
also
that
we're
paying
for
it
at
an
appropriate
level.
So
we
initially
just
took
the
census
population.
It
was
pre-2020
census.
We
were
just
kind
of
working
off
old
numbers
and
we
said
here's
how
we're
going
to
divide
it
up
equally
per
capita.
What
we've
since
done
is
we
receive
inbound
waste
stream
collection,
information
from
belson's.
G
It
was
part
of
our
contract
and
we
put
this
together
where
we
know
the
volume
of
waste,
the
tonnage
of
waste,
the
number
of
transactions
that
we're
seeing
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
towns
that
were
utilizing
the
E-Waste
were
paying
their
fair
share.
So
inside
in
the
table
you
can
see
a
couple
of
you
know
two
pie
graphs,
so
we
had
2021
data
and
the
first
half
of
2022.
G
We've
since
received
Q3
2022
data,
but
it's
not
quite
included
in
here,
but
we
wanted
to
make
it
to
where
the
communities
that
were
using
the
volume
of
E-Waste
were
paying
the
share
of
the
E-Waste.
So
in
that
adjusted
cost
you'll
see,
there's
been
some
I
want
to
say
relatively
drastic
changes
in
some
of
the
communities
where
you
have
a
you
know,
a
smaller
community
that
maybe
didn't
use
as
much
E-Waste.
It
might
now
have
a
a
share
of
of
55
or
92
dollars
and
and
they're
paying
their
fair
share.
G
This
way,
John
from
the
State's
Attorney's
office
is
working
with
the
attorney
at
Karma
right
now
to
renew
our
contract
with
them
they're
going
to
maintain
their
participation
at
the
same
level,
we
are
asking
to
execute
intergovernmental
agreements
with
all
of
our
partners
that
we
currently
have
the
agreements
with,
and
we
would
really
like
the
Authority
for
the
chairman
to
sign
any
new
agreements
with
communities
that
might
want
to
come
on
board
and
use
it.
G
So
it's
it's
kind
of
a
a
request
to
do
something
you
know
enter
into
new
intergovernmental
agreements.
It
would
be
two
years
so
that
would
be
2023
and
2024,
but
we
don't
exactly
have
the
intergovernmental
agreements
negotiated
from
the
back
side.
So
we
want
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
here
to
continue
to
work
with
the
State's
Attorney's
office,
but
to
afford
the
chairman
the
ability
to
execute
these
agreements.
G
I
will
say
if
you
look
at
the
way
the
math
kind
of
washes
out
if
we
and
Karma
and
Manteno
participate
as
as
communities
will
will
have
likely
enough
funds
to
execute
our
contract
with
belson's.
So
that's
certainly
a
good
thing,
but
I
I
don't
know
how
what
the
appetite
is
in
some
of
our
communities
as
far
as
executing
them.
Finally,
I
can
tell
you
in
the
the
minor
dialogues
we've
had
at
the
mayor's
meeting.
Everybody
seems
really
happy
with
it.
G
Their
costs
aren't
that
great
to
them
and
a
lot
of
them
are
receiving
a
discounted
cost
with
the
new
waste.
So
I'm
assuming
they'll,
be
happy.
I,
just
I
can't
speak
on
behalf
of
them
yet
because
I
haven't
had
that
negotiation
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
chicken
and
egg.
Here,
where
get
the
big
three
players
lined
up,
get
our
vendor
belsons
re-executed
and
then
we'll
continue
to
kind
of
execute
the
igas.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Ben
I,
actually,
like
that
you're
doing
a
two-year
contract
for
2023
and
2024
gives
them
some.
You
know
something
to
go
ahead
and
expect
in
their
budget
instead
of
a
a
cost
that
just
comes
up
so
I
just
want
to
go
ahead
and
not
say
good
job
on
that.
C
That
should
be
a
copy
of
that
in
your
packet
label
service
agreement
with
the
economic
Alliance.
We
renew
this
every
two
years
and
that
just
it's
basically
an
agreement
that
allows
their
employees
to
be
County
employees
and
it's
Ben.
If
you
want
to
elaborate
any
more
on
that,
but
it's
we
do
this
every
two
years.
G
I
guess
the
the
only
thing
I
would
note
is
the
reason
we
do
this.
Every
two
years
is
is
we're.
We
have
an
obligation
to
not
exceed
kind
of
board
terms,
so
this
is
something
you
see
every
two
years
and
it
will
be
voted
on
at
the
December
meeting
after
the
new
board
is
seated
so
for
that
two-year
period.
That
board
is
intact
and
obviously
we
have
elections,
and
then,
in
that
you
know
that
two-year
so.
This
allows
us
to
enter
into
that
agreement
kind
of
on
our
regular
cycle.
G
It
allows
us
to
use
our
legal
Authority
for
that
window
that
we
have
nothing
has
changed
within
the
agreement
with
with
the
county
and
the
alliance.
The
the
same
type
of
work
and
amount
of
work
will
be
done,
but
it
just
that's
that's
why
this
always
seems
to
happen
every
two
years.
A
A
C
Yes,
this
is
for
informational
purposes,
there's
no
vote
needed
on
it.
We
just
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
that
the
economic
Alliance
is
changing
their
bylaws
to
increase
membership,
and
it
is
my
understanding
that
that
increase
in
membership
is
to
allow
more
industry
representation
on
the
board.
Correct,
Ben.
G
That's
correct
Dallas.
So
when
we
go
out
and
meet
with,
you
know,
industry
leaders
and
we
get
feedback
quite
a
quite
a
bit,
and
formerly
the
board
was:
was
a
cap
of
18
members,
we're
requesting
and
actually
at
a
recent
Alliance
board
meeting,
that
the
executive
committee
and
board
voted
to
increase
that
membership
to
22,
and
it's
it's
an
up
to
number.
G
So
the
bylaws
change
includes
language
of
you
know,
depending
on
how
big
the
board
is,
it
sets
the
parameters
for
our
what
a
quorum
is,
but
this
allows
us
when
we
meet
with
new
Industries
and
have
New
Perspectives
come
in.
We
don't
have
to
necessarily
lose
a
valuable
board
member
to
bring
that
new
person
in
it
allows
us
the
ability
to
bring
another
person
into
to
the
mix
to
get
their
insight,
and
we
really
thought
it
would
be
helpful
for
us.
I
mean
we.
G
We
just
recently
did
a
visit
with,
with
crown
core
conceal,
they're
a
great
example
here,
where
you
drive
past
it
every
day.
You
don't
really
know
what
they
do:
they're,
making
millions
of
cans
for
PepsiCo,
and
you
start
talking
with
they
say.
Oh
we've
been
attending
our
meetings,
they've
been
giving
us
feedback
and
we're
at
a
point
where
we
couldn't
possibly
add
them,
because
we
would
have
to
take
someone
off
and
we've
got
a
bunch
of
great
people
on
our
board
now,
and
we
wouldn't
necessarily
want
to
lose
that.
D
G
I,
do
not
have
the
the
board
roster
in
front
of
me,
but
it's
president
of
KCC.
G
G
You
know
within
within
the
the
community,
are
represented.
We
have
four
members
from
the
key
County
Board
that
are
represented.
We
have
Kankakee,
County
NAACP
represented
it's
a
pretty
broad
smattering
within
our
community
of
of
types
and
and
industries
covered.
We
always
want
to
make
sure
we
have
kind
of
that
education
and
the
workforce
and-
and
then
you
know
particular
particular
Industries
covered
right
now.
The
board
of
18,
though,
does
run
the
gamut
of
a
professional
people
within
our
community.
So.