Kankakee County Board, IL Press Conferences & Misc Meetings, 10 Mar 2021

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NAACP/Law Enforcement Meeting 03/10/2021

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And we're gonna ascertain uh visitors and members and we're going to start to my immediate left last row with mr jim rowe.

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Oh I'm sorry uh myron we'll come back to mr rose eating yeah. Oh everybody's eating, gym.

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Iron riley, you.

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Got speaking to the mic, myron reilly, kankakee, county jail ministry, state employee, mike.

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Rhonda showers, mental health network and people's church.

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Donna sample options center for independent living. We can't see.

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You behind the pole, I know.

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That's on purpose.

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You might need to move over to 38 there. One pseudo you you're right in there.

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Okay debbie case uh st mary's community outreach and naacp executive committee.

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Bailiff courthouse kankakee.

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Chief of bradley pd.

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Good afternoon mary emberg indian oaks academy in mantino.

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Aaron harrison 21 commander.

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Jose de jesus district 21 operations officer chris bridge the day of the journal.

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Lori gabboy executive committee, naacp.

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Steve hunter naacp first vice president, his friend also a member of the county board.

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And program director at sawing movie and family service groups.

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President kennedy county grant naacp.

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Chad, gestner chief kanke.

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Well, there's not know, there's not a lot.

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Of notes, okay, so as far as notes go, I apologize in vain because I didn't cram off or I thought they run, this thumb drive, but the brief synopsis of what we discussed was and we'll get into the training for the kinky county community crisis response team that we had two days of training, thursday and saturday at kcc.

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I did hand out a created survey monkey and handed out to everybody that was participated, whether it was the attendee or the actual presenters to get feedback from ourselves as well. So I'll say that for the actual presentation um it was a good turnout. uh It was a goal that we've been trying to get for a long time. It was successful, obviously, with anything new. There was a lot of tweaking that we need to do for future.

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So we appreciate the honest feedback: that's the best feedback, probably some suggestions breaking it up in a couple days or we haven't discussed what we're gonna do yet, but I don't think, there's a whole lot that can be omitted, but for time constraints means everybody has other jobs, things going on, probably split up into two different pages. The majority of the response.

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um That being said, if you want me to let me go real quick. It was like eight eight to ten questions. We had the free survey monkey because it cost a lot of money to buy it nowadays what it used to be. So you could probably hear me if you guys can't hear me. Let me know or just do you need that to record.

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Chad is the wireless microphone.

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Riverside behavioral medicine, I'm your.

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Okay, look uh lieutenant uh going to give the update from the survey uh that we actually was taken after the 18th and 20th of training.

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All right so, like I said there were just a few questions. um Each slide basically represents a question. A couple of them are more of a video slide because you actually had to scroll and get all the results, but so question one was the actual questions from the survey it was overall. How would you rate the training and it was overwhelmingly excellent, as you can see like 53.3, said excellent and then 40 was very good.

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6.67 said good.

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And question two: what did you like about the training so um overall concept? So this was one they just you put in your own comments. It was free form, so we had everything from overall concept.

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Actual crime scene, videos because it showed what real life was, and I know it was kind of kind of brutal for the crime scene, because or for the actual they were axon or taser videos. So, like lieutenant basin said they were weren't meant to offend anyone, but it was a real real deal of what what goes through this actual body camera on an officer at the different scenarios that you guys watch versus, sometimes the media kind of paints, a different picture of what that is, um openness of the presenters training participation.

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uh Some of the other things that were mentioned was uh the simulator the miles milo simulator that we used two different days. I think, if we spent more in my own personal paintings, I ran people through the second time or the second day on saturday is to have more time doing that, because that's really when I walked people out from that. When we took a break and then went back to presenting, I was asking the different groups. What was your first impression and a lot of them?

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It was a whole different perception, a whole different viewpoint of what actually happens when you have to sit there and hold they simulate. One girl didn't want to hold the gun, but I'm glad I kind of he's it wasn't a real gun. Obviously it was a simulation, but she was shaking when I handed it to her, but she went up there. She did great, but it's the whole purpose of that is to open up your eyes to what you see.

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You know from that short time frame that you got to make a decision of whether you're going to shoot, don't shoot or you know some of them were designed that they look like you're going to shoot and if you were watching earlier, then, when you go to pull your gun out, the guy turned around he's got a cell phone.

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That's really what happens in a lot of scenarios, so I wouldn't I wouldn't skip that and try to try to make that a little bit longer, so everybody can go through two or three scenarios because they change all the time.

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What did you dislike about the training that was question three? um This was kind of we knew this going into it after day, one because we were over over the first day. You know like 40, minutes, 50 minutes or something so then we tried to obviously do better on the second one, but what would you cut out so overall was that it was uh well one thing on here, and this is to a low community turnout way too long.

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The time constraints, like we all said during classes an eight hour class, at least too long, lengthy, that's pretty much. What everybody said is it was just too long and they did they weren't saying long as in at least what I interpreted to talk to people was that it was too long that they had to take something out, because really the longest part was when lieutenant basin went through the use of force, and he had to basically explain to a common person that doesn't know anything about law enforcement.

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What use of force is what we're restricted to do, what we can do and then he and then jim roh actually presented the new law, which was just now passed. The house bill 3653 puts a lot more restraints on everything, so I think you can't really take that out of there because you lose a lot.

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The videos are very impactful because it shows you that part and then we walked into the simulator those that wanted to do it and actually got to participate and be that person with that new information question four: how organized was it extremely organized very organized somewhat organized not too organized and not at all, so at least we we nailed that one. It was either very organized or extremely organized which took a lot of planning.

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As we said, what we're doing is two three years in the making and just getting to the point where we wanted when we finally got the committee together and then the training committee and then started contacting people was at least another year from that point on was the training length too long, too short or about red? Well, obviously, I knew this one had to be in there because we had the answer, but looking for suggestions too long was the main thing um about right was about.

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uh Let's see 26 percent, but 46 said too long and much too long was another 13.. So you had almost 60. That said, it was too long for one day. What suggestions, if any, would you recommend? So this is an important one, because this comes from the actual people in attendance community outreach to get more residents involved.

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The training was effective, more hands-on training for the trainees. So I look at that, like kind of like you do with the new recruit that comes out of the academy, you get all that you get to 14 weeks, you get 12 weeks, but then, when you come back, you go through your fto and when you think, you're ready, you're still not ready, because when you get that first, oh crap moment when you're out there, then you see what you really got to know in a short time. So.

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Agree, you guys need more training but to figure out from that direction. What we're going to do and then question seven, do you feel the instructors had knowledge on their subject presented yes or no 100 percent said? Yes, your knowledge gained from this training can be applied to your role as a member of the kcccrt strongly agree with 73, and then uh someone agree with six percent and agreed was twenty percent, and then just general comments is how we wrapped it up. Like I said we were only limited to nine.

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I don't want you to pay like forty dollars a month. I wasn't doing that. I loved the class. It helped me with my fear of firearms. Thank you for that. This is the person I was probably telling you, because it's all anonymous not only was the knowledge I gained help with my role as part of the kccrt, but also in my everyday life as community outreach nurse to help educate my community. God bless our police force every day. Next comment: this is a very good come out.

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The third one I believe we will learn as we go through different situations. This is all new, so trial and error will be part of it. So and then we probably need to add some additional memories in the next two to three months, which we all agree on that.

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So that was a survey monkey link. If anyone, I think there was a total of 15 that filled it out. So obviously there was a couple that didn't, but that always happened. So if anyone wants it either contact the owners myself, that's the website. It's still open I'll, just keep it open in case somebody didn't get it or had a problem with it.

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That's that, in a nutshell, so appreciate all the feedback from everybody. Thank.

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You can we get a motion to approve uh which we have minutes in the report. Survey uh from the training on thursday march, the 8th uh twentieth moved by hunter cited by laurie. Are there any other questions of lieutenant mason, seeing that all in favor opposed.

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There was an email went out to all of the.

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Law enforcement members and the email basically said good morning, as you know, I'm always thinking out about the initiative to improve the relationship of law enforcement in our communities. What about taking out training to the high schools and julie, junior high school for the school year? uh 2122 and bridgette uh who's, the professor uh esserton uh at kcc and here's a responding email? I was approached from kcc corporate and continuing education division about offering this training as an in-service for local professionals who need educational hours throughout the year.

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She talked about social workers and educators and others. I could see this as the opportunity to increase community professional knowledge about how law enforcement approaches. These aspects of our.

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Learn from asking questions, thank you.

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Quick, you know out at indian oaks, we work with about 100 kids ages, 12 to 21 that have made some poor decisions upon poor decisions and they've interacted with the police on numerous occasions and.

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I thoroughly enjoyed the training and feel an honor to be a part of this group. The time to prepare for crisis is a june crisis, so I am really hopeful that this group can come together as needed and let's hope we never need it. But if we are that training was phenomenal and again I wouldn't take anything away, despite add to it. Thank you. Thank.

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I personally enjoy this training um like with others. um I think you know nothing's been taken away to it. We can definitely have a lot of potential for us to add and work towards to get the community involved me personally. In my you know, walk of my career. I had the opportunity to interact with a lot of individuals in the mental health field, and I've had like one-on-one discussions with them, and I've always had to ask them a question. You know how do you feel about authority and they don't like authority.

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So this is an opportunity, for you know the police department to be able to give a different side of exactly what we're doing is why we do it. You know what these laws mean. It's a wonderful way to inform our community um through this training. It was a really beneficial field to me, because you know you see a lot on social media in the news that surprises you and hurt you because it affects members. You know I tell my african-americans so it especially within my community, my family.

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I also have individuals within my family who serve in you know higher positions within you know, police department, so I see it on both sides and I always wanted to get a better understanding. Every case by case is different. The way we handle it, we haven't had one here in this town. So thank god for that, but you know in preparations of before. If we ever do, you know I feel like we have the lighting together. I'm really glad that now you put this uh together and invited me to be a part of it.

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So uh with that.

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um I guess one thing I would like to say is an honor to be here um I guess to come, but he uh actually I'm going to be going because he says I'm more in the community that he is from born here raised here at the high school here raised me all here, and I worked here our culture I coached under this man right here. He taught me football, you know, and things like that, so I'm really blessed to actually be here to know that um the season's a different life I'm not gonna laugh.

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I used to have my thoughts about cops. I'm not gonna lie. You know I work for coffin, you know, and I respect them uh and everything like that. You know these last years. Things are crazy and different, but after going through some training assimilation, I mean I told you my friends right now- man they just want to get on like you know, and it's crazy. I see myself arguing with some of my friends because they still feel that way.

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But I don't I feel like there are great cops out there. They need to be put in situations that they just they got. They split second decisions, and it's tough, because in that simulation I wanted.

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And all you guys, you know all your offices, man, thumbs up cause y'all here, man just say: faith keep doing it. I'm proud to be.

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Initially started with us way before she started formulating uh the documents for response team. Thank you.

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Just a couple seconds.

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The simulator is what got me.

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uh I didn't go first, I went.

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So they wanted everybody.

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I was nervous so I said this is what college they're nervous and you got to make a split second decision instead of gun or cell phone, so it gives you a whole different look at what they go through they're under pressure.

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They don't know if this guy's got a gun, a nice cell phone whatever. So I got a different respect for him now.

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Today we will personally hand deliver those and thank them for their.

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Participation, I'd like to thank lieutenant mason, stephen hunter and chief swinford and other members of our law enforcement team for putting this training together and now it's in the hands of the response team and um so again, um chief swiffer. I guess we need to meet and pick a time of the date the committee can uh the response team can meet and for they can pick appoint their uh spokesperson for the crisis response team. So again, on behalf of the citizens and the members of the naacp, our police municipality, our state uh state police.

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And the county.

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Sheriff's department, I want.

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All those people who took time of your schedule to attend those two-day training again. Thank you.

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So at this time, we'd like to get an update from um our state's attorney jim roh and any other of law enforcement can chime in just build a reality. Another bill was saying 1836, you know what we're saying, so we just want to give an update on what some of your thoughts and how we're going to move forward on that. We know that was a major discussion during the during the training. So just uh give us a little update there sure.

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So, with the governor's signature now you know it's as good as law.

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There's still, you know, there's some good components to it and then there's a lot of areas that definitely need to be looked at again and hopefully amended. um When I look at what that, how that impacts us locally. The best example I can give everyone is just just the changes. Some small changes to language, for instance in the felony murder statute.

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Everyone probably remembers the horrible murder of joe buck. He was a barber in our community.

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Did all the back to school haircuts all the time just a great guy, and he was robbed by uh two individuals, uh danny and ricky kendrick, and in the course of that armed robbery, he was shot and murdered right in front of his house, while his kids were inside his kids heard the gunshots his wife called him and said be careful when you get home they're shooting outside, not knowing it was her husband with the changes to the felony murder statue, danny and ricky would not have been able to be prosecuted for the murder of joe paul, so at most they might have been looking at an armed robbery charge.

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Those are just some real life examples of how that legislation is going to impact, not only our community but communities all across illinois, it's great to celebrate perform, but sometimes we need to take a deeper dive into what that reform looks like in the real world, in the courts and in the streets, and that's where people on both sides really.

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You know victims and law enforcement, so some other things. The bail reform elements again: you're not going to be able to hold someone for a random drive-by they're, going to be immediately released back into the community once their charges are processed.

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You have to wait for them to do a second drive by to hold him in custody officers not being able to refer to their body camps. You know if you ever had the opportunity to do a ride along with a police officer. I would strongly encourage you. I was a big critic of law enforcement, but I would leave three police reports early on in this job. I'd say: well, they don't even have to color the guy's eyes into before right all the little details that we need.

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It's easy to be critical and I did a ride along with a kankakee city officer at 10 pm, 6 a.m shift started at 10 pm. It was called call to call the call didn't didn't get he didn't, take a lunch break or anything around 4 a.m. He parked in a parking lot and started to write the reports for the incidents that happened at 10, 10, 15 and 10 30.. So having to recall all those small details, it gave me a real perspective that I wouldn't have been able to appreciate.

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Without that experience so telling an officer, you have to wear a body cam, but you can't refer back to it.

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That's that's more of a setup for the officer than any type of reform, so there are definitely some components of this bill that need to be amended, and hopefully those discussions will take place, at least during the labor day. People are awake instead of this three and four a.m: omnibus bill that they shove down everybody's throat.

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I would encourage everyone to contact your state representative contact, your state senators, lg sims, the state senator from the northeast corner of our county, who is the chief author of this bill, should definitely call his office and express any concerns or congratulations for it. I suppose you know body cams. I I like that reform. I think it's great that we could have body cam footage uh in every instance. Unfortunately, there's no funding source for that.

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So there's there's a lot of two sides to every coin in this bill, but I encourage you to reach out to your elected representatives and demand that they pass some of these reforms.

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Jim, I I clearly uh agree with you regarding uh contacting our lawmakers. I've had a genuine conversation with senator george um and remember.

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Have about a year before the video takes effect, however, we need to start looking at and mandate what type of amendments that we would like to see to this uh house bill 3653. So again, if you uh to make those calls to uh jackie house who is now state representative and senator joyce, who is that state senator?

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So I've already made those comments and started jotting down some of the amendments that we think, particularly the mission of the nacv, what we should have to say that we're not supporting uh police reform, but this particular bill have some some other concerns that we have. So you can do that. So at this time,.

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um And concert what uh gentleman said there may be trailer bills which will try to be considered and maybe, as an organization I know, chief excuse me. Sheriff downing- has been very active with the illinois sheriff's association and I think they have some concerns. But as an organization probably, we need to reduce some things to writing in terms of our specific recommendations. As you indicated talking to senator joyce and representative.

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Correct, so what we're going to do? uh We still have about 10 minutes before we leave we're going to start to my left with um mr dangling, I mean mr guest. I'm sorry uh to give up uh uh mr gaston here regarding uh well mike is always sitting to my right um regarding the update with the ship department.

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Sheriff I'm sorry if you're watching this video, I apologize he's out of town today, so he's not able to make it to the meeting uh just on the sheriff's department side uh sheriff down he's working with lieutenant mccows he's in charge of rit division, we're working together, putting bids together for cameras.

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Our biggest thing is trying to find a vendor, a camera that basically basically can adapt to our I.t. So it's not a foreign coming in. You know not able to work with so, but we are in the process of getting those numbers. So that's that's where we're right on.

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We have we've recently purchased made the purchase of the body cameras. We're waiting for them to come in. We've got a hard day that may be made where we're thinking about what the production's going to be on the camera, since everybody needs to know so, but we're hoping for anything to order.

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We're still investing in different avenues as of last week talking with lieutenant uh uhkowski in in uh in reference to what they're doing too I mean I wanna, don't wanna get into a situation where I might be buying. uh uh What I think is the beta uh system and everyone else is going with the vhs system and they might and right now work to be wise with every you know being on my own, so I'm going to I'm still checking into the area and we're just looking to see.

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What's the most cost-effective way of doing it,.

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Would you have any updates.

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Yeah we've had a fully implemented for over a year, so.

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Commander hearts, if you got anything from uh illinois, state police.

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I don't um it's a funding issue so as soon as it as soon as I know, I'll actually pass it on to you. I can say with the squad car videos I remember when I was. I was a local confidence and then right now those were beneficial for us, because we can look at video and see what actually happens a lot of times. You get complaints about things that aren't it's a it's, not a complaint, so those are good for us body. Cameras will do the same thing, so we're looking forward to all.

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Thank you. Are there any other closing comments before we uh we're going to join that meeting senator? Can we get a motion to adjourn at 11, 12, 46.

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We have all the attendees.

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By uh lieutenant mason, second by uh chief cosman, all in favor thank.

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