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A
What
did
you
decide?
Did
you
hold
that
letter.
A
A
A
C
C
C
We
have
Quorum
with
Molly
joining.
A
Wonderful:
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Welcome
to
the
EMC
meeting,
let's
begin
with
review
and
Adoption
of
the
September
14th
meeting
summary:
are
there
any
additions
or
Corrections.
A
Thank
you
so
much
now,
if
you
all
don't
mind,
let's
just
assume
that
voting
negative
unless
you
want
to
raise
your
hand
or
voice
a
negative
vote,
any
negative
votes,
any
abstentions,.
A
Okay,
we
will
consider
the
summary
approved
as
drafted.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
EMC.
Appointments
and
I
was
going
to
ask
Andy
to
tell
us
what
he
knows
about
what
may
or
may
not
be
going
on
with
that.
B
Yeah,
so
I
don't
have
any
new
information
to
share
I
I've
reached
out
to
the
mayor's
office
expressed
some
concerns
in
regards
to
where,
where
we
are
with
the
appointments
to
the
commission
right
now,
and
also
that
there
have
been
some
issues
in
terms
of
folks
being
able
to
get
their
applications
submitted,
so
have
not
heard
back
yet
mayor's
office
on
what
their
plan
is
or
what
their
thoughts
are
on.
B
A
There
was
a
there
was
a
suggestion
that
maybe
we
could
stimulate
some
activity
by
providing
a
list
and
when
I
spoke
to
the
rest
of
you,
oh
a
little
over
a
month
ago,
we
did
generate
a
number
of
names
of
people
that
different
ones,
if
you
thought
might
be
good
on.
The
commission
and
I
think
that
if
you
all
are
comfortable,
we
might
go
ahead
and
Empower
Andy
to
take
a
look
at
the
list
and
perhaps
communicate
the
list
with
the
mayor's
office.
A
In
addition
to
anybody
else
that
you
guys
have
in
mind
or
thing
might
be
helpful,
I
had
written
something
that
we
sent
to
the
mayor's
office.
It
kind
of
suggested
some
of
the
different
types
of
people
that
might
people
with
different
kinds
of
expertise.
You
know
not
not
like
different
varieties
of
people
that
might
be
useful
on
the
commission
and
that
had
been
really
valuable
on
the
Commission
in
the
past
and
if
you
want,
we
could
resend
that
to
you
all,
and
you
could
think
again.
A
B
No
I
think
that
that
would
be
one
way
to
go.
I
mean
you
know
a
letter
even
from
the
commission
to
the
mayor
directly.
You
know
just
you
know
stating
that
you
know
you're,
where
we
are
with
appointments
and
maybe
possible
recommendations
in
terms
of
filling
those
positions
in
terms
of
the
types
of
folks,
expertise
that
you're
looking
for
anything
along
those
lines.
A
Well,
if
you
all
would
be
comfortable
what
I,
what
I
can
do
is
I
can
provide
marlini
with
the
list
that
we
had
before
of
the
different
areas
of
expertise.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
and
ask
her
to
send
it
out
to
everyone
to
stimulate
your
thoughts
about
some
additional
names.
I
have
the
names
that
most
of
you
shared
with
me
before,
and
I
I
hesitate
to
just
without
asking
anybody
just
publish
their
names
broadly,
but
if
you
want
to
revisit
any
of
those
suggestions,
please
feel
free.
A
It's
because
the
system
wasn't
working
in
a
way
that
allowed
them
to
submit
their
application
and
they
at
least
one
of
them
has
been
pursuing
it
with
the
mayor's
office
to
no
effect
he's
not
getting
a
response
back
from
the
mayor's
appointment,
Point
person,
so
I
think
we
are
going
to
have
to
be
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
and
and
maybe
a
little
bit
more
forthcoming
with
some
specific
suggestions.
So
if
that's
agreeable
to
you
all
that
would
be
my
next
step.
A
D
I'd
I
I'd
like
to
know
what
how
many
people
are
currently
on
and
and
if
there's
any
statistics
or
any
knowledge
about
it,
seems
like
it's
been
languishing
it
it
like
like
this,
there's
not
interest
in
it
or
something.
A
Well,
I
think
that
there's
certainly
interest
in
the
work
that
the
commission
does,
but
there
has
not
been
any
interest
in
making
appointments
that
we
have.
Maybe
we
should
say
any
action
in
making
appointments
to
the
commission
and
to
be
fair
just
so
that
you
all
understand
the
EMC
is
not
the
only
Commission
of
the
city
that
is
experiencing
this
difficulty
there.
There
are
a
number
of
commissions
that
have
not
been
fully
appointed.
Is
that
a
fair
way
to
say
it?
Andy.
B
We
were
already
in
the
midst
of
it
and
then
the
mayor
got
got
to
appointing
some
new
folks
to
that
committee.
So.
A
A
B
A
Carol
Mackin,
you
need
to
wave
your
hand,
we
have
one
person
who
has
been
appointed
by
the
new
mayor
and
the
rest
of
us
either
are
serving
they're
a
expired
term
or
there's
a
vacancy.
A
But
it
does
I,
don't
believe
we're
going
to
resolve
anything
today.
So
if
you
all
will
watch
for
my
email
and
if
other
names
come
to
you
or
mind,
let
me
know
and
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
just
feed
all
that
information
to
Andy
and
then
when
he
gets
a
chance
to
talk
to
them
to
somebody
in
the
mat
in
the
mayor's
office.
A
E
So
I
was
I
was
just
gonna
offer
to.
If,
if
we're
going
to
continue
to
to
press
along
this,
do
we
think
that
there
might
be
any
benefit
in
potentially
trying
to
reach
out
to
the
leadership
of
some
of
the
other
boards
and
commissions,
because
I
mean
if,
if
or
if,
if
the
point
is
that
we,
we
don't
just
want
our
commission
to
be
filled.
E
A
It's
a
really
constructive
idea:
I,
don't
know
how
we
get
the
information
for
sure
about
what
other
commissions
are
not
fully
subscribed.
Andy.
Do
you
have
any
information
about
that?
I
know
the
water
department
is
having
some
difficulty
getting.
C
A
Appointments
but
I
am
not
privy
to
who
else.
B
A
F
A
Well,
I
mean,
let
me
see
if
I
understood
this
correctly.
What
I
was
understanding
from
Michael
was
that
perhaps,
if
we
aligned
ourselves
with
other
commissions
that
also
had
vacancies
not
to
suggest
that
the
same
people
be
appointed,
but
that
actually
be
taken.
E
E
Right
right,
yeah,
like
Caroline
I
apologize
for
the
confusion
in
in
my
remarks,
I
did
not
I
did
not
need
to
imply
that
everyone
needs
to
pull
double
duty
on
the
vacancies,
simply
that
trying
to
make
sure
that
if
it
may
be
more
impactful
and
may
get
the
mayor's
attention
more
effectively,
if
we're
all
kind
of
combining
and
kind
of
focusing
our
efforts
in
a
in
a
specific
type
of
way,
I.
A
Yes,
we
did
send
a
letter
last
month
that
had
a
couple
of
pieces
of
information
in
it.
It
had
the
information
about
the
number
of
vacancies
we
had
and
the
expert
the
expiring
terms
and
the
type
of
people
that
were
valuable
serving
on
the
commission
and
what
the
content
of
our
charge
is
and
what
our
origin
was
and
had
all
of
that
information
and
background
in
it.
A
But
that
has
had
no
effect
so
I
guess
what
we
have
to
do
is
find
another
way
to
do
it
again,
which
is
why
why
may
be
suggesting
a
list
of
people
would
would
help.
But
we
don't
know
Jerry
had
his
hand
out.
G
B
Well,
you
would
hope
that
it
would
be
I
know
that
we
provide
an
update
on
the
appointments
based
on
you
know.
We
keep
track
of
it,
but
it
surprises
me
at
times
sometimes
that
our
records
don't
match
their
records.
You
know
so
I.
You
know.
We
could
certainly
hope
that
those
records
are
publicly
available
and
If.
You
know
if
some
submits
a
Sunshine
Law
request.
You
can
see
what
you
get.
A
B
Need
to
well
I
mean
I,
yeah
I
mean
I
could
certainly
request
it
without
going
through
the
formal
channels,
but
any
anybody
can
do
that.
The
city
has
a
website
for
submitting
Sunshine
Law
requests
and
you
just
fill
out
the
form
and
you
submit
what
you
know:
documents
you're
looking
for
and
it
gets
disseminated
to
the
right
departments
and
and
staff
to
respond
to
those.
You
know
and
they're
not
obligated
to
generate
any
documents.
They're
just
gen
they're
obligated
to
provide
documents
that
currently
exist.
So.
A
Well,
what
would
be
the
most
effective
and
still
congenial
way
to
make
that
request.
B
I,
unfortunately,
I
mean
I've
been
off
for
the
past
week,
so
I'm
still
playing
catch
up
and
I
didn't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
try
to
get
with
them
to
to
figure
this
out.
So.
A
Okay,
well,
in
the
meantime,
I
can
send
that
information
to
the
commission-
and
you
all
can
see
if
there
are
other
people
that
come
to
mind
so
that
you
would
have
a
more
a
longer
more
robust
list
to
share.
Does
that
sound
like
a
good
first
step,
Andy
yeah.
B
A
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
the
state
and
federal
legislative
priorities.
B
I'm
going
to
keep
my
camera
off
I
my
internet's
a
little
sketchy
right
now
so
I'm
just
hopefully,
this
will
work
better
so
every
year
the
city
kind
of
kind
of
collapse,
with
what
it
believes,
are
the
state
and
federal
priorities
for
upcoming
legislative
sessions
and
to,
for
example,
the
state
usually
starts.
You
know
when
they
get
together
in
January.
What
the
city
does
is
we
put
together
a
list
of
priorities,
it's
kind
of
done
in
different
ways.
B
Typically,
it'll
go
through
the
mayor
office,
the
mayoral
the
mayor's
office
will
take
on
the
lead
on
collecting
various
comments,
whether
it's
from
commissions,
whether
it's
from
staff,
wherever
they
will
usually
then
compile
those
legislative
priorities
put
together
a
resolution,
usually
one
for
the
State
Legislative
priorities
and
another
one
for
federal,
and
then
they
take
it
through
the
legislative
process
in
the
city
to
basically
adopt
to
that
resolution
and
those
legislative
priorities.
B
So
we
have
asked
by
mayor's
office
to
submit
our
thoughts,
comments,
suggestions
for
legislative
priorities,
I'm
kind
of
offering
an
opportunity
to
the
EMC
to
offer
suggestions
via
our
office
to
consider
for
the
mayor's
office
to
consider
and
we'd
be
happy
to
kind
of
forward
those
on
to
the
mayor's
office.
I
would
say
that
if
you
have
not
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
documents
we
presented
typically,
there
will
be
usually
a
few
legislative
priorities
submitted
related
to
climate
action.
B
There
is
at
least
one
very
strong
recommendation
to
be
supportive
of
climate
action,
whether
it's
mitigation,
resiliency
or
sequestration.
So
if
you
have
a
chance
to
look
at
the
two
documents
we
provided,
you
should
be
able
to
see
that
particular
recommendation
and
I
would
suspect.
We
would
continue
that
same
priority
and
recommendation
for
legislative
priorities,
but
there
are
other
ones
that
are
submitted
around
affordable
housing
issues,
weatherization
or
Energy
Efficiency.
B
Those
kinds
of
things
so
anyhow,
we've
been
I,
have
until
the
end
of
the
week
to
submit
recommendations
to
the
mayor's
office
and
then
from
there
the
mayor's
office
will
come
get
into
a
resolution
based
on
what
the
mayor's
thoughts
are
and
from
there
it
goes
through
the
legislative
process.
B
State
they're
actually
starting
this
a
little
early,
but
they
want
to
get
this
wrapped
up
before
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
and
have
this
to
their
lobbyists
before
the
new
new
sessions,
whether
it's
state
or
federal,
that's
kind
of
the
back
story
to
this
kind
of
open
it
up
to
questions
or
just
open
up
to
DMC,
to
throw
out
ideas.
If.
H
B
Actually
you
can-
or
that
was
one
of
the
ones
that
was
presented
last
year,
was
on
the
farm
bill.
B
Let
me
look
real
quick
here
see
if
I
could
find
it
for
you,
foreign
yeah,
the
farm
bill.
It's
a
federal
legislative
priority
was
to
support
increased
funding
for
the
conservation
programs
contained
in
the
2018
farm
bill,
which
should
improve
Source
water
quality
and
various
water
bodies
used
by
communities
across
the
United
States.
So
that
was
what
was
put
in
last
year's
legislative
priority
regarding
the
farm
bill.
B
I,
don't
see
why
not?
What
do
you
mean
by
go
deeper.
D
Well,
I
mean
I,
didn't
hear
regenerative
agriculture
mentioned
in
that,
and
yet
that's
what
seems
to
have
the
most
it's
going
to
sequester
carbon
and
it's
going
to
put
moisture
in
the
ground
that
and
the
moisture
can
also
interface
with
the
climate,
and
so
it
it's
kind
of
low
hanging
fruit.
D
H
D
Well,
I'm
wondering
if
I
don't
know
that
I
have
the
expertise,
because
I'm
a
city
boy
to
talk
about
the
farm
bill
and
even
how
you
know:
I,
wouldn't
I
kind
of
know
the
general
rules
but
I,
don't
know
the
specifics
of
how
you
move
cattle
in
order
to
you
know
not
eat
too
much
grass
and
and
and
what
kind
of
cover
crops
would
you
use?
And
you
know
what
I'm
saying
there's
a
lot
to
know
there
and
we
ought
to
have
some
Farm
person
helping
us
I,
don't
know.
B
B
D
I
think
we
need
the
input
of
a
person
who
is
actually
doing
it.
As
a
farmer,
you
know
to
to
add
some
experience
to
it,
so
so
that
we
city
folks
can
understand.
You
know
we
can
understand
the
principles
once
presented,
but
the
devil's
in
the
details
or
something
like
that
so
I
I,
that's
what
I'm
thinking
I
guess.
Maybe
we
could
find
somebody?
That's
within
the
city
limits
who's
actually
doing
it.
I
don't
know.
D
I
know.
Powell
Gardens
is
starting
a
regenerative
kind
of
program
on
their
land.
Up
there
out
there
east
of
here.
D
And
and
farmers
are
kind
of
locked
in,
they
can't
even
get
loans
for
regenerative
AG,
because
there's
such
a
Stranglehold
by
the
chemical
industry
or
or
whatever
I
mean
you'd,
think
everybody
would
be
okay
with
this.
E
So
so,
just
two
things
I
see
here.
E
One
thing
that
I
would
want
to
to
include
with
both
the
state
and
federal
priorities
is
more
explicit
language
about
supporting
the
needs
of
people
living
with
disabilities,
so
their
accessibility,
improvements,
Ada
improvements,
I
think
that
that
would
probably
fit
best
under
the
the
climate,
protection
and
resiliency
since
there's
already
discussions
of
investing
in
pedestrian
and
bike
infrastructure,
and
so
that
would
be
just
one
thing
and
that's
and
that
language
is
in
both
the
state
and
federal.
E
So
just
including
expanding
that
language
to
say,
accessibility
or
Investments
for
Ada
improvements,
and
then
the
other
thing
is.
If
there
is
inclusion
of
explicit
language
around
environment,
electric
vehicles
being
sure
that
we're
explicitly
saying
electric
vehicles
includes
electric
cars,
electric
buses,
electric
bikes,
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
I
would
I'm
going
to
mention
a
couple
of
other
things
that
I
don't
really
know
enough
about.
So
maybe
somebody
else
would
have
something
to
say,
but
I
think
that
ethanol
mandates
are
certainly
a
state
in
federal
problem
and
and
I.
Don't
know
what
whether
we
want
to
say
anything
about
that
or
not,
but
it
certainly
contributes
to
foreign
ing,
more
corn
and
less
and
less
other
things,
and
the
corn
is
water
and
pesticide
and
fertilizer
intensive,
and
it
doesn't
really
improve,
as
it
doesn't
really
improve
air
quality.
A
So
what
a
what
it
basically
does
is
I
presumably
boost
the
amount
of
renewable
carbon-based
resources,
so.
A
But
that's
something
that
would
be
controversial
in
Missouri,
but
it's
still
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
not
good
environmentally
about
mandating
ethanol
and
the
other
thing.
That's
kind
of
current
is
they're,
going
to
be
redrawing
the
flood
maps
and
updating
them
and
I
think
that
that
maybe
we
also
ought
to
be
rethinking
what
how
we
ensure
flood
risk
and
whether
we
ensure
flood
risk
in
a
way
that
encourages
rebuilding
in
flood-prone
areas.
A
Right
absolutely
I
think
that
currently
the
way
that
a
lot
of
the
insurance
is
structured,
there's
no
money
available
until
you
flood
and
then
the
money
is
primarily
available
for
improvements.
Right,
Where,
You,
flooded.
F
I
I
had
a
comment
on
this
list.
It's
interesting
way
down
at
the
bottom
number
11
they're
under
neighborhoods.
It
has
economic
Justice,
but
nowhere
in
here
does
it
say
anything
about
environmental
justice
and
that
is
being
mandated
across
the
board
in
all
federal
agencies,
and
it
would
probably
fit
under
the
climate
protection,
but
I
don't
see
it
sort
of
in
the
in
the
verbiage.
There.
F
A
People
to
continue
to
share
their
thoughts
over.
B
My
suggestion
would
be,
if
you
have
a
specific
language
you
want
to.
You
want
to
propose,
feel
free
to
email
that
to
me,
I
made
note
of
everything
you
guys
were
talking
about.
Plus
we
got
the
video
recording,
we'll
be
putting
something
together
to
share
with
the
mayor's
office
here
by
Friday.
So
there's
not
a
lot
of
time.
B
So,
if
you
do
have
any
other
thoughts,
suggestions
or
language
to
propose,
I
would
certainly
appreciate
that,
but
we'll
put
our
list
together
and
send
it
on
and
we'll
we'll
see
what
the
mayor's
office
ends
up
going
with
that
all
the
Departments
are
doing
this,
so
we're
just
kind
of
never.
It's
never
assured
what
what
gets
accepted
by
the
mayor's
office,
but
we're
going
to
take
a
shot
at
it.
B
F
C
I
mean
it
totally
depends.
I
know.
Kansas
City
was
involved
on
long
ago
in
the
the
Missouri
River
degradation
study
that
went
on
through
Mid-America
Regional
Council
I
know
through
the
ms4
permit.
We
have
to.
C
H
B
F
B
A
Well,
and
and
the
and
the
the
multi-state
compact
in
the
Basin,
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers
controls,
really
the
reservoir
levels,
Upstream,
which
have
a
huge
impact
on
the
amount
of
water
supply
we
have
and
the
amount
of
flood
protection
we
have
going
into
the
spring.
So
I
mean
it
is.
It
is
sort
of
an
enormous
impact
for
us.
F
C
Very
much
so,
but
we
do
have
we've
we've
always
lobbied
in
the
past.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
still
the
case,
I
don't
know.
What's
going
on
in
the
stormwater
division
over
at
KC
water
and
who's
still
there
that
could
Advocate
at
the
federal
level
for
that
stuff,
but
I
mean
it
has
always
been
something
we
did
in
the
past
from
a
flood
flooding
perspective
from
a
water
quality
perspective
from
a
slow
perspective
for
drinking
water
purposes
and
I
know,
Casey
Waters
had
a
good
relationship
with
the
Corps
in
the
past
foreign.
B
It
was
number
220861
and
essentially
what
this
is
about
is
back
in
April
of
this
year's
Spire
filed
their
request
with
Missouri
Public
Service
Commission
to
basically
raise
the
rates
trying
to
generate
a
little
more
income
it
that
of
course
comes
on
the
heels
of
a
rate
increase
that
went
into
effect
in
December
of
2021,
so
not
even
a
year
had
passed
and
they
had
filed
a
increase
to
their
rates.
B
So
the
original
rate
increase
in
December
of
21
was
about
eight
dollars
and
12
cents
a
month
for
Kansas
City
area
residents.
B
This
particular
increase
is
I,
think
around
10
or
11
dollars
a
month
or
on
the
rate,
for
this
next
rate,
increase
that
they're
asking
for
so
the
resolution
that
was
proposed
and
the
mayor's
office
got
involved
with.
This
was
just
to
basically
advocate
for
the
city
to
take
a
position
and
to
submit
comment
regarding
the
rate
increase.
B
So
myself
and
the
mayor's
office
went
in
front
of
council
kind
of
spoke
about
what
the
rate
increase
was
about
and
more
or
less
it
it
passed
through
the
committee
pretty
easily
and
went
on
to
full
Council
for
their
approval.
So
essentially
they
approved
the
resolution
and
basically
are
asking
for
us
to
take
the
lead
in
and
submitting
a
comment.
B
So
what
spire
and
various
notices
went
out
if
you're
Aspire
customer,
you
probably
should
have
seen
a
comment
letter
or
a
letter
that
was
sent
to
you,
giving
you
notice
that
this
was
going
on
and
that
you
have
an
opportunity
to
submit
comments
on
your
own.
So,
besides
the
city
taking
a
formal
stance
as
a
consumer,
you
are
certainly
welcome
to
do
that
as
well.
So
the
comment
they
were
offering
various
public
hearings.
B
The
first
is
actually
it
was
today.
I
was
the
first
one
we'll
start
about
six
o'clock,
I
believe
that
one's
in
St
Louis
and
then
tomorrow
there
is
a
virtual
call-in
opportunity
and
then
here
in
Kansas
City,
our
our
opportunity
will
be
October
18th.
B
It
will
be
an
in-person
meeting
at
the
Greg
clice
Community
Center,
and
the
way
I
understand
that
particular
meeting
is
it's
partly
a
opportunity
for
the
consumers
to
meet
spire
and
ask
specific
questions
of
spire
and
then,
after
the
first
part
of
that
meeting,
is
over
and
then
the
community,
then
the
Public
Service,
Commission
Representatives,
will
come
into
the
room
and
you'd
be
able
to
offer
formal
comment
that
way,
so
that
one
6
p.m,
on
October
18th,
so
for
our
office,
what
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
is
putting
together
at
least
a
formal
comment
letter
on
behalf
of
the
city,
we're
still
discussing
who,
how
we'll
we'll
actually
attend
that
particular
meeting.
B
But
that
is
basically
the
whole
issue.
Right
now
is.
Is
this
latest
rate
increase
that
they're
asking
for,
and
is
it
Justified
so
Lara's
been
doing
a
great
job
in
researching
and
we've
been
talking
with
some
folks
at
the
at
the
state?
Who's
been
giving
us
some
insight
into
some
information
about
this,
so
just
wanted
to
put
it
on
your
radar
that
you,
as
consumers
or
customers
of
spire,
are,
can
certainly
provide
comment
and
or
attend.
One
of
these
information
sessions.
B
Correct
yeah,
that's
the
thing:
is
the
fuel
Spire
can't
control
that
that'll
just
be
whatever
the
price
is
on
the
market
expected
to
probably
come
about
in
December
or
so
and
I've
seen
there
have
been
some
news
reports
that
that
could
be
upwards
of
30
percent.
F
F
B
Well,
I,
don't
know
that
this
is
a
an
Ask
necessarily
we've
already.
We've
got
our
marching
orders
from
the
mayor's
office
and
from
the
council,
so
we've
already
have
a
draft
of
a
comment
letter
put
together.
B
You
know
it's
a
matter
of
whether
the
commission
wants
to
do
something
on
their
own
and
you
know,
put
a
put
together
a
letter
to
approve,
as
a
as
a
commission,
to
submit
on
behalf
of
the
EMC
or
whether
you
know
as
individuals
I
mean
this
is
partially
just
informational.
It's
just
a
matter
of
letting
everybody
know
that
this
is
an
opportunity
that
either
as
consumers
and
or
as
the
EMC,
you
can
comment
on
this.
B
A
Okay,
in
that
case,
let's
go
ahead
and
talk
about
the
2021
building
energy
codes.
A
Vote
on
this
again
tomorrow
is
that
correct.
Tomorrow
is
the
day
yep
and
at.
A
Is
it
is
super,
it's
a
toss-up
right,
it's
very
it's
a
very,
very
close
vote
and
so
I
drafted
another
letter.
It
has
no
new
information
in
it.
It
just
reiterates
the
things
that
we've
said
before,
but
in
a
very
short
and
pointed
way,
so
that
it's
just
really
a
quick
reminder
that
we
feel
like
the
long-term
benefits
of
Energy
Efficiency
outweigh
the
interests
of
short-term
profits.
A
A
We'll
see
for
us,
but
I
was
hoping
that
you
all
would
be
comfortable
with
me.
Sending
it
first
thing
in
the
morning
and.
C
H
E
I
mean
do
we
do
we
need
to
make
a
formal
motion
on
on
moving
this
forward,
because.
A
I,
don't
think
so
because
it's
there's
nothing
new
in
this
note,
if
you,
if
you
all,
would
feel
more
comfortable
making
emotion,
that's
fine,
but
there's
nothing
on
this
in
this
letter
that
we
haven't
said
before
and
with
more
detail.
E
A
But
it
just
seems
like
we
need
to
be
pretty
pointed
at
this
I'm
sure
yeah.
B
H
Okay,
I
think
I'm,
just
gonna
say
what
you
all
have
already
said,
but
thanks
Carol,
for
this
is
I
like
this
really
short
succinct
draft
I,
especially
like
the
the
last
sentence.
There,
long-term
energy
cost
savings
over
short-term
construction
savings
and
that
I'm
totally
fine
with
that.
If
we,
if
we
wanted
to
say
something
additional
about
how
the
energy
costs
are
high-
and
you
know
I
mean
to
me-
that's
it's
only
going
to
make
it
better
to
to
do
this.
A
Is
there
any
discussion,
this
is
Carol
Mack
and
I
just
need
to
abstain.
Okay,
please
note
that
in
the
minutes
and
for.
B
Yeah,
so
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
new
stuff
to
share
yet
we're
still
kind
of
I'll
start
with
start
with
solarize
Kansas
City.
As
far
as
can
see,
this
is
kind
of
an
important
month
for
that
campaign
if
there
are,
if
the
enrollment
period
for
that
actually
ends
this
month
at
the
end
of
the
month.
B
So
if
there's
anybody
out
there
that
you
think
may
have
any
interest
in
solar,
whether
it's
residential,
commercial
or
non-profits,
certainly
encourage
them
to
go
to
the
website
and
fill
out
the
enrollment
form,
there's
no
cost
to
that.
Just
kind
of
gets
her
name
into
the
program
and
locks
you
into
the
pricing
that
we
have,
which
is
at
the
lowest
tiered
pricing
right
now
for
the
program
So.
Currently,
where
we're
at
we
have
over
600
about
605
enrollments.
B
We
have
over
60
contracts
in
place
with
primarily
residential
we've
got
a
couple
of
commercial
and
a
couple
of
non-profits
we're
still
talking
with
I'm
trying
to
negotiate
those
out,
but
yeah
we're
it's
somewhere.
It
comes
right
now
we're
at
about
half
a
megawatt
of
energy
through
the
solar
solar
panels
is
what
we're
we're
at
right
now,
which
is
our
lowest
tiered.
Pricing
installations
are
just
now
starting.
B
They
are
installer,
had
to
kind
of
get
through
the
backlog
of
projects
that
they
had
with
their
previous
customers
and
now
they're
working
through
our
customers.
So
Milestones
right
now
is
sign
up
before
the
end
of
the
month.
B
Also,
if
there's
any
low-income
families
that
you
may
think
would
be
good
candidates
for
this
program,
we
do
have
a
low
income
component
to
the
program
called
share
the
Sun
and
it's
the
sign
up
for
that
is
on
the
same
website
and
we'll
be
qualifying
any
any
families
that
enroll
through
that
program
to
see.
B
If
we
can
subsidize
their
solar
systems,
100
percent
and
the
solar
system
would
be
a
five
kilowatt
system,
is
what
we're
offering
for
low-income
families,
but
for
a
lot
of
folks
that
could
be
at
least
half
or
more
of
their
energy
usage
on
electricity.
So
milestones
for
that
is
enroll
this
this
month
by
the
end
of
the
month,
and
then
you
have
until
the
end
of
December
to
actually
decide
to
contract
and
if
you're,
a
commercial
entity
or
a
non-profit,
you
actually
have
until
March
of
next
year
to
to
contract.
B
So
once
we
enrollment
closes,
then
the
Coalition
will
be
working
with
those
that
have
enrolled
will
be
reaching
out
in
more
detail
just
kind
of
troubleshooting
and
just
having
a
lot
more
conversations
and
a
little
more
personal
attention
than
we've
been
able
to
give
at
this
point,
as
we've
been
focusing
more
on
enrollments
at
this
point.
So
so
as
so,
that's
where
we
are
with
solarize
going
pretty
good,
so
no
complaints
there
internally,
I
guess
I
should
ask
you.
Are
there
any
questions
before
I
move
on.
B
Okay,
yeah,
if
there's
any
homes,
associations
or
any
groups
like
that,
we
can
still
come
out
and
do
presentations.
We're
still
doing
some
of
that
already,
so
certainly
reach
out
in
your
networks.
If
you,
if
you
have
the
time
internally,
just
I
know
some
several
of
you
knew
that
we
had
some
vacancies
in
our
office.
We've
had
two
vacancies
now,
of
course,
we've
been
struggling
without
Jerry,
so
have
not
been
able
to
fill
his
position.
B
So
we
we
have
done
interviews,
though
happy
to
report.
We've
completed
some
interviews
for
the
position
and
it's
looking
pretty
good
looks
like
we.
We
will
probably
have
somebody
joining
us
for
the
next
commission
meeting,
I'm
not
going
to
make
any
formal
announcements
yet,
but
I
would
say
it
looking
like
Laura's
going
to
have
some
help
before
too
long.
So
that's
great.
B
The
second
position
is
the
analyst
position
that
we
have
that
that's
the
person
that
kind
of
oversees
our
benchmarking
program
helps
us
with
our
greenhouse
gas
inventories.
Chris
Hayes,
who
is
the
previous
analyst,
took
a
promotion
in
the
water
department,
so
we
were
happy
for
him
happy
and
sad
all
in
one,
but
that
position
was
posted.
We
do
have
a
list
of
candidates
and
we
are
actually
doing
interviews
this
week
for
that
as
well.
B
So,
hopefully,
before
the
next
meeting,
Laura
will
have
more
staff
to
to
help
with
all
of
our
efforts
here
so
wish
us
luck.
Budget
budget
requests
went
in
from
our
office.
Those
were
submitted
a
week
let's
see
a
week
ago,
and
we
shall
see
in
our
budget
requests
were
two
position
requests.
B
So
what
we'll
be
asking
for
is
when
the
city
starts,
doing
public
meetings
or
public
hearings
on
the
city's
budget,
anything
you
can
do
and
or
as
a
commission,
to
support
our
office's
budget
in
regards
to
supporting
climate
action,
which
should
be
primarily
the
budget.
The
two
position
requests
that
we
have
in
there.
That
would
be
appreciated.
B
Let
me
think
what
else
Laura
feel
free
to
jump
in
if
there's
anything
else,
I
we're
we're
still
working
on
our
building
performance
standards.
Policy
Consuela
has
been
working
with,
or
at
least
looking
at
other
cities
talking
to
other
cities.
I
know
Laura
and
Consuela
have
been
reaching
out
and
kind
of
talking
about
how
other
cities
do
their
building
performance
standards
and
how
they
build
out
those
policies.
B
So
work
is
still
progressing
on
that
and
we
don't
have
any
major
Milestones
to
report
on
that
necessarily
at
this
point,
but
that's
on
the
list
there
to
do
also
the
and
and
Marty.
This
applies
to
you.
The
now
that
the
climate
plan
is
done.
I
did
send
out
an
email
about
this.
The
native
Landscaping
group
is
anxious
to
get
get
going
back
on
our
ordinance,
so
we've
been
I've
got
some
staff
helping
me
with
that.
B
Now
just
try
to
get
a
draft
put
together
to
share
with
our
committee
so
that
we
can
try
to
get
that
ordinance
wrapped
up
before
the
next
spring
season
so
and
that
hopefully,
will
give
us
enough
time
to
get
the
ordinance
passed
and
do
some
training
for
our
inspectors
and
all
that.
So
hopefully
we'll
get
something
out
here
this
month
to
our
group
to
kind
of
deliberate
on
and
fine-tune
before.
We
take
that
to
council
so
and
there's
lots
of
other
activities
associated
with
that.
B
C
Just
that
we're
moving
forward
right
now,
a
lot
of
effort
on
the
climate
planning
side
is
kind
of
involved,
with
finding
grants.
Looking
looking
at
what
grants
are
out
there
partnering
on
grants,
there's
a
lot
of
Grants
stuff
going
on
right
now.
So
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
talks
with
other
departments
and
I'm
also
one
thing
I
did
want
to
mention
I'm,
getting
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
folks.
Sending
me
hey,
look
at
this
grant.
C
What
could
we
do,
which
is
kind
of
cool,
but
I've
I
get
about
three
to
six
of
those
a
day
on?
What
could
we
do?
So,
if
you
are,
if
you
see
a
grant
you're
interested
in
doing
something,
then
maybe
you
if
you
could
reach
out
and
say,
hey
Laura,
here's
this
grant.
This
is
what
I
would
like
to
do.
How
can
the
city
support
that
would
be
so
much
better,
so
I'm
all
about
help
and
support,
but
those
meetings
are
they're,
taking
up
a
lot
of
time
and
so
it'd
be
best.
B
Yeah
we
just
reached
somebody
had
an
organization
that
we
just
found
out
was
awarded
a
partners
for
places
Grant
and
it
was
more
or
less
they
took
the
lead.
They
say
here.
Here's
our
idea,
here's
our
project,
but
we
need
you
guys
on
board
I'm
like
yeah.
Let's
do
it
we'll
partner
with
you
but
you're,
taking
the
lead
on
this
and
sure
enough.
They
got
the
Grant
and
we're
going
to
help
support,
but
I
I
agree
with
Laura
that
yeah
there's
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
out
there,
but
we
need
more
help.
B
People
taking
the
lead-
and
you
know,
will
support
as
much
as
we
can
yeah.
C
All
at
once-
and
that
is
another
another
piece
of
it-
if
you
have
a
grant
and
you
need
a
letter
of
support-
I
am
I,
will
prioritize
the
those
at
one
p
or
1
am
in
the
morning
just
to
get
them
done.
I
think
it's
super
important
that
we
partner
and
I
will
happily
like
show
you.
You
know
how
it
connects
to
The
Climate
plan.
I
will
do
all
that
work
for
you
as
long
as,
as
you
just
say,
hey
this
is
the
grant.
C
C
B
Okay,
Laura
did
you
have
anything
else
to
share.
B
Yeah,
we're
kind
of
in
a
period
I
would
say
it's
just
kind
of
we're.
Just
triaging
things
at
this
point
until
we
get
get
some
fresh
staff
in
to
help
help
help
us
out
so.
B
C
The
other
thing
that's
going
on
because
Carol
had
said
I
needed
to
say
something
about
that
is
tomorrow.
Night
is
the
U.S
Green
Building
Council
Central
Plains
women
in
green
event,
I
will
be
one
of
the
panelists
as
well
as
Keisha
Smith
from
Bridging
the
Gap
and
Sarah
Greenwood
from
Greenwood
Consulting.
There's
a
it's
a
good
panel
of
folks.
C
So
if
it's
mainly
a
women's
event,
I
know
there
are
some
guys
that
are
that
have
registered
and
are
showing
up,
but
it's
mainly
kind
of
a
women's
empowerment,
sort
of
thing
get
together,
learn
from
other
women
and
then
the
afterwards
there's
like
a
big
brainstorming
session
on
how
we
can
move
forward
with
different
actions
to
support
green
work
in
Kansas
City.
So,
if
anybody's
interested
I
put
the
link
in
chat.
B
Thank
you,
Laura
and
I
would
kind
of
relate
to
the
climate
plan.
This
is
kind
of
refresh
my
memory
a
little
bit
about
some
things.
B
We've
been
getting
a
lot
of
news
pieces
that
have
been
popping
up
on
the
climate
plan
and
very
supportive
stuff
so
from
various
sources,
but
it's
interesting
how
it's
reaching
various
other
organizations
that
we
maybe
had
not
connected
with
before
so
we've
been
I've,
been
having
specific
conversations
with
various
groups
about
the
climate
plan
that
heard
about
it
through
whether
it
was
a
news
piece
or,
as
I've
been
out
doing
some
I've
been
asked
to
do
various
presentations
on
the
solar
programs,
whether
it's
the
airport
or
the
zoo,
or
not,
the
zoo.
B
Sorry
about
that
as
part
of
a
different
presentation,
but
whether
it's
the
solar
array
at
the
airport
or
the
solarized
Kansas
City.
You
know
as
part
of
that
we
talk
about
renewable
energy
and
the
climate
plan,
and
that
stimulates
their
thoughts
about
what
what
else
is?
What
else
can
they
do?
What
can
they
be
involved
with?
So
it's
really.
It's
really
been
kind
of
interesting
to
see
the
interest
that
a
lot
of
these
things
are
sparking
in
the
climate
plan.
B
So
with
that
we
we
did
put
we're
working
on
a
presentation
to
offer
groups
that
have
an
interest
in
knowing
more
about
the
plan.
B
One
of
the
first
groups
we'll
be
presenting
to
next
month
is
the
cancer
Industrial
Council.
They
have
some
concerns
about
the
plan
and
or
questions
so
myself
and
Kristen
with
Bridging.
The
Gap
will
be
presenting
the
climate
plan
to
that
group
of
folks,
but
I
think
the
intention
is
that
we'll
have
a
I
can't
presentation
that
we'll
have
available
for
groups
that
may
want
to
know
more
about
the
climate
plan,
so
whether
it's
oeq
presenting
or
something
from
the
steering
committee
we'll
have
that
available.
B
So
just
and
just
want
to
make
you
all
aware
that
that's
that's
a
part
of
our
Outreach
plan,
I
I,
suppose
put
it
that
way
and
being
that
I
just
talking
about
the
solar
at
the
airport.
B
If
you
are
not
aware,
we
did
complete
the
feasibility
study
on
that
we
started
with
3.
000
acres
is
what
the
feasibility
study
looked
at
on
the
west
side
of
the
airport
and
essentially
the
feasibility
study
kind
of
pairs
it
down
to
about
half
that
in
terms
of
land.
That
is,
would
have
the
minimal
amount
of
issues
to
to
contend
with
to
put
solar
on
it.
So
try
to
minimize
cost,
of
course,
but
to
minimize
risk
to
various
environmental
issues
could
be
topography.
B
Wasn't
quite
right
could
have
been
a
lot
of
different
factors.
So,
anyhow,
if
you
don't
know,
the
city
has
issued
a
request
for
proposals,
so
that
is
out
on
the
street
right
now
and
so
we're
looking
for
a
developer,
someone
who
can
design
build
essentially
a
phase
one
of
this
project,
which
is
about
35
Acres,
so
we're
looking
for
somebody
to
build
it
design
it
operate
it.
What
it
is,
whether
it's
Community,
solar
or
it
feeds
the
city's
need
at
the
airport,
still
questions
to
be
had.
B
We
still
have
many
conversations
to
have
between
us
ever
G
the
Southwest
power
pool
that
the
project
proposals
so
more
to
come,
but
the
proposals
the
rfps
are
due
in
January
of
next
year.
So
there's
still,
we
have
a
few
months
to
go
before
we
actually
have
some
something
to
look
at
so,
okay,
I
think
we
got
it
all
out
now.
C
B
I
can
put
a
link
in
the
chat
to
it.
The
city
has
a
portal
where
they
post
that
kind
of
information
for
people
on
those
projects.
It's
bonfire
is
the
system
that
they're
using
to
to
kind
of
collect
those
rfps,
but
I
can
get
you
that
information.
If
you
want
to
look
at
it,
yeah.
H
That'd
be
great
appreciate
it
yeah,
but
I've
originally
raised
my
hand
for
just
asking
maybe
I've
missed
was
the
was
the
final
version
of
the
cprp
ever
made
public.
C
The
final
version
of
the
plan
is
up
with
one
exception,
so
we
have
the
the
final
interactive
version
of
the
plan
is
online
at
the
link
I
just
put
in
there.
All
of
the
links
to
the
plan
can
be
found
at
kcmo.gov
climate,
our,
which
is
our
shortcut
to
our
oeq
climate
webpage.
We've
got
the
the
final
documents
and
all
of
its
all
the
appendices
on
our
page
at
the
bottom.
C
The
only
thing
missing
is
the
print
version
of
the
plan
and
I
think
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
said
it
last
time
to
this
group,
but
I
know
I
had
to
say
it
at
this
climate
protection
steering
committee,
we
had
to
get
the
links
to
the
plan
up
on
the
website
before
we
could
put
the
links
in
the
final
plan
to
link
to
the
appendices.
So
it's
kind
of
in
a
chicken
and
egg
sort
of
thing
we've
been
running
around
with,
but
Brenda
will
have.
C
A
And-
and
the
next
thing
is
remarks
from
visitors
but
you're
going
to
get
one
remark
from
me
first
and
it's
just
something
that
I
thought
perhaps
we
could
all
take
an
interest
in
as
a
result
of
the
war
in
Ukraine.
Europe
is
facing
some
energy
emergencies
and
it
looks
to
me
like
particularly
if
you
kind
of
follow
the
news.
It's
pushing
them
to
look
at
how
they
can
innovate
within
the
parameters
or
parameters
of
their
existing
natural
gas
infrastructure
and
I.
A
Think
it's
going
to
be
instructive
to
all
of
us
to
see
what
they
come
up
with,
but
it
sounds
like
they're
really
pushing
the
envelope
on
being
creative
and
looking
at
new
technologies
and
looking
at
hydrogen
and
all
kinds
of
things.
So
maybe
a
outcome
of
of
the
hardship-
that's
they're
facing
right
now
will
be
to
accelerate
ideas
for
making
that
system,
converting
it
to
something
that
works
better.
So
that's
my
only
comment.
A
Does
anybody
else
have
a
comment?
Any
visitors
like
to
speak.