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B
D
A
B
B
C
F
E
Hi
so
at
the
neighborhood
planning
development
committee,
the
a
amendment
was
introduced
today
to
basically
just
wait
on
the
energy
code
discussion,
the
the
international
energy
conservation
code
discussion
until
the
2021
code
is
published.
So
that's
expected
in
the
fall.
Some
presume
you're
aware
that
it's
anticipated
or
understood
that
the
there
are
further
energy
efficiency
increases
in
that
document
over
the
2018.
E
So
rather
than
move
ahead
with
the
18
just
tabling
that
portion
of
the
code
update
discussion
until
that
document
is
available,
so
they
went
ahead
and
approved
the
remainder
of
the
code
update.
So
we
could
proceed
on
with
that
and
and
then
we'll
continue
that
discussion
once
that
document
is
out.
I
checked
with
icc.
Today
they
didn't
have
any
specific
dates,
yet
they're
just
still
saying
fall
as
their
estimated
date.
E
May
wait
and
see
if
council
gives
any
specific
direction
on
what
they'd
like
to
see
or
if
they,
if
any
of
the
council
members
that
supported
the
amendment
today,
you
know
are
wanting
to
participate
or
just
turn
that
to
staff
for
the
discussion.
But
yes,
I'm
sure
I
mean
my,
I
believe,
would
be
better.
Just
have
some
specific
meetings
rather
than
you
know,
having
the
detailed
discussion
in
the
council.
G
H
H
So
essentially,
st
louis
has
this
was
kind
of
the
thrust.
The
whole
article
they've
been
really
successful
in
not
just
approaching
and
inviting
different
stakeholders
into
adoption
of
different
energy
codes,
but
being
really
proactive
and
going
to
the
construction
and
the
home
builders
associations
locally.
E
So
you
know-
and
I
think
that'll
be
the
the
mission
for
those
championing
the
more
stringent
codes
will
be
to
paint
that
picture
to
ultimately
to
counsel,
because
then
that's
who
needs
to
be
swayed
to
adopt
those
documents.
You
know
I
looked
at
that.
I
read
that
article
as
well.
I
don't
know
that
I
took
away
that
they
were
necessary
as
championing,
but
maybe
not
resisting
that
they
ultimately
were
brought
on
board.
E
So
I'd
go
back
and
look
again
so,
but
but
yeah,
obviously
that
they
weren't,
you
know,
take
just
being
the
opposition
to
it.
Ultimately,
so
you
know
the
challenge
is
getting
the
data
and
the
documentation.
That's
factual
and
specific
to
our
location.
You
know
on
any
side
of
a
code
debate
that
tends.
The
the
data
tends
to
be
skewed
to
the
argument
trying
to
be
made
or
in
any
debate,
probably
that
everyone's
trying
to
make
their
case.
So
it's
you
know
getting
that.
That's
that's.
E
Paints
the
picture
that
and
and
is
based
on
actual
information.
You
know
in
the
current
dialogue
or
the
dialogue
that
occurred
at
the
public
hearings,
I
mean,
I
think,
no
doubt
that
the
information
presented
various
people
sent
in
information
following
the
meetings
to
to
support
cases
on
both
sides.
I
think
homebuilders
information
was
pretty.
You
know
clearly
distorted.
It
included
things
that
really
weren't
changes,
and
so
I
thought
soft
laws
there,
but
some
of
the
other
things
that
were
being
presented
as
well.
E
Here's
ways
you
could
build
that
house
and
not
incur
some
of
those
extra
costs.
You're
saying,
but
then,
when
you
really
looked
at
the
details
of
what
was
being
presented,
it
wouldn't
meet
the
unamended
code
because
it
had
things
like
well,
you
could
compress
the
ins,
you
could
stagger
your
studs
and
compress
the
insulation
around
it
or
you
could
cut
the
insulation
where
you
encounter
that
stagger
stud
well
as
soon
as
you
do
that
you
no
longer
have
you're
no
longer
meeting
that
code.
H
E
Sure,
well
I
mean
you
know:
kansas
city
does
have
a
lot
of
different
jurisdictions.
I
mean
more
so
than
other
places.
Now
you
know
an
argument
might
be
made
that
you
know
if
majority
of
kc
buildings
going
on
in
the
northland
are
people
really
going
to
choose
a
house
in
johnson,
county
versus
north
kansas
city
or
those
direct
competition
or
not
in
some
senses
they
are,
maybe
not
or
you
know,
is
it
liberty
and
county
clay,
county
and
gladstone
and
some
of
those
other
places.
E
H
And
greg
I
I
asked
that
as
a
a
question
about
what,
if
you
know,
that
was
still
something
that
you
were
hearing
not
because
I
don't
think
that
that's
something
that
is
going
to
be
an
inherent
value
addition
to
a
stricter
code.
I
do
think
that,
if
you're
looking
at
people
who
are
looking
at
a
home
as
an
investment
for
their
family
in
the
long
run
and
has
some
kind
of
investment
in
the
long
run
generally
that
it's
actually
fairly
easy
to
show
the
difference
in
the
quality
of
the
structure.
H
So
if
there
are,
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
the
article
talked
about
is:
if
there
are
greater
cracks
and
exposures
to
moisture
in
the
summer
and
frost
in
the
winter,
then
obviously
the
structure
is:
is
gonna,
stand
this
test
of
time
poorer
than
something
with
a
better
coat
in
it
in
the
first
place.
So
I
don't
think
that
that
kind
of
regional
race
to
the
bottom
price
range
mentality
can't
be
overcome.
C
C
I
E
E
B
J
B
K
K
B
B
A
J
Okay,
all
right,
so
I
apologize
for
those
of
you
that
are
on
the
line
that
we're
also
at
the
climate
climate
protection
steering
committee,
because
it's
pretty
much
the
update
I
gave
them.
But
at
this
point
we've
we've
started
the
process
for
the
climate
action
and
adaptation
plan,
and
we
don't
really
know
exactly
what
we're
gonna
call
it
yet
because
it's
no
longer
just
a
climate
protection
plan.
So
this
is
our.
J
This
is
our
big
fancy
title
until
our
outreach
process
gets
us
a
more
interesting
and
fun
title
or
the.
If
the
commission
would
like
to
put
together
a
more
interesting
title,
that's
allowed
to
so
here's
kind
of
where
we
stand
everything
started
off
in
when
the
resolution
was
kicked
off
in
may,
and
then,
after
that
process
we
did.
J
So
our
first
process
right
now
is
to
issue
a
request
for
information
which
that
went
out
earlier
this
week
to
our
procurement
group,
and
what
that
is,
is
that's
just
to
allow
the
folks
that
normally
bid
on
things
like
this
to
just
give
us
a
ballpark
figure
on
what
it's
going
to
cost
to
do
that
plan.
It's
hopefully
it'll
it'll
go
out
soon.
J
Procurement
said
it
shouldn't
be
too
long.
It
seems
like
a
pretty
straightforward
process,
and
so
that
will
then
go
out
it's
kind
of
like
an
rfp
except
we're
not
asking
them
to
put
together
a
big
proposal.
We
just
how
long?
What
is
it
going
to
cost
you
to
give
us
a
climate
action
adaptation
plan
with
all
of
the
things
in
o5
by
the
end
of
the
end
of
march,
which
is
what's
expected?
J
J
J
J
We're
trying
to
overlap
this
as
much
as
possible
to
get
this
done
by
july,
so
that
we
can
actually
put
together
a
group
to
get
to
actually
review
the
proposals
and
get
our
get
our
consultant
on
board,
and
that
selection
committee
is
going
to
consist
of
about
five
people,
we're
thinking,
internal
city
staff
and
some
external
stakeholders
as
well
to
review
those
proposals
and
then
we'll
award
the
project,
hopefully
fingers
crossed
by
september,
and
once
that
happens,
then
we're
going
to
have
to
start
with
a
really
robust
kickoff
we're
gonna
kick
up.
Kick
it
off.
J
We're
gonna,
get
the
outreach
plan
going,
get
the
who's
going
to
be
involved.
Well,
I
guess
I
take
that
back.
We're
gonna
start
this
process
now
on
getting
the
who's
going
to
be
involved
in
the
plan
together,
I've
already
started
a
spreadsheet
of
various
groups
and
if
any
of
you
have
any
ideas
of
groups,
you
think
need
to
be
involved
in
this
process.
Please
send
it
to
me.
J
J
Those
are
going
to
be
that's
going
to
be
internal
city
staff,
they're,
actually
going
to
be
responsible
for
proportions
of
this
and
making
sure
that
whatever
we
write
into
the
plan
actually
fits
with
what
we
can
do
with
the
city
and
then
the
committee
folks
are
going
to
be
our
involved
stakeholders,
so
the
the
ones
that
really
that
already
care
they're
they're
already
up
and
they
understand
the
process
and
what
we're
looking
to
do.
So.
Those
are
folks
like
the
sierra
club
here
and
the
nrdc
and
the
casey
chamber.
J
They
were
involved
last
time,
mid-america
regional
council
folks
from
climate
action,
kc
and
then
concurrently
with
that
we'll
be
holding
public
workshops
and
that's
where
we're
going
to
make
sure
we
hit
hit
up
our
vulnerable
populations
and
our
neighborhood
associations
groups
like
that.
This
group
we're
assuming
we're
not
going.
J
The
staff
and
committee
group
we're
assuming
we're
not
going
to
have
to
inform
too
much
about
the
process
they're
just
going
to
help
put
it
together,
whereas
when
we
go
to
the
public
workshops,
that's
folks
that
are
going
to
need
some
education
on
what
climate
change
is,
how
it
affects
them
in
order
to
make
informed
decisions.
So
that's
why
those
are
two
separate
things
we're
going
to
have
the
client
at
this
time.
J
J
I
think
for
our
staff
and
then
we're
going
to
start
drafting
the
plan
and
when
we
we're
going
to
have
another
staff
and
committee
workshop
after
we
do
the
public
workshops
to
get
to
kind
of
put
all
the
public
input
together
and
make
sure
we're
accurately
reflecting
that
with
everybody
involved
draft
the
plan,
we're
going
to
get
it
out
for
public
comment
and
feedback
and
then
the
internal
feedback
of
deliverables.
That's
just
did
our
consultant
give
us
everything
that
he
said
they
were
going
to
give
us
or
whatever.
J
One
of
the
big
positives
about
having
a
consultant
on
board
for
this
process
is
that
from
the
plans
that
have
been
done
recently
with
consultants,
that's
they
do
have
a
requirement
to
put
in
and
how
we're
going
to
implement
this.
So
they'll
help
us
with
a
roadmap
and
a
process
for
implementation
as
well
afterwards.
So
this
isn't
just
a
plan
that
sits
on
the
shelf.
So
that
is
the
quick
timeline
for
the
climate
plan
and
I'm
sure
there's
probably
questions.
So
anybody
has
any
questions.
C
I'm
laura
yes,
if
I
might
just
add
to
the
engagement
part
of
it
just
to
let
folks
know.
The
comprehensive
plan,
of
course,
is
undergoing
its
update
and
we
have
been
in
conversations
with
city
planning
on
that.
So
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
resilience
of
course
makes
it
into
the
comp
plan.
And
so
I
would
certainly
encourage
folks
to
they've
already
they're
just
beginning
their
engagement
process
and
they
are
going
to
be
kind
of
passing
along.
C
Those
responses
that
might
address
sustainability
might
address
resiliency
toward
to
to
lara
and
us
so
that
we
make
sure
that
those
ideas
that
are
captured
in
the
comprehensive
planning
process
are
funneled
into
us.
So
they're
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
ask
some
questions
as
part
of
the
comp
planning
process
to
help
collect
some
of
that
feedback.
C
There
may
be
through
our
kc
or
our
casey,
st
or
our
data
kc
folks
that
often
do
community
surveys.
They
may
also
be
sending
out
surveys
that
we
will
hopefully
be
able
to
include
a
question
or
two
to
kind
of
help
gauge
a
baseline
for
the
community
and
then
going
forward
down
the
road
in
terms
of
quality
of
life,
questions
and
things
of
that
nature,
so
just
wanted
to
kind
of
throw
that
in
there.
C
J
H
J
Jerry
was
part
of
that.
So
he
was
here
for
that,
but
also
that
list
of
stakeholders
is
in
the
plan
and
then,
of
course,
all
pretty
much.
Anybody
who's
ever
attended.
One
of
these
meetings
or
one
of
the
climate
protection
steering
committee
meetings
is
already
on
that
list
and
then,
of
course,
all
the
environmental
groups
that
we
have
in
kansas
city
that
have
shown
interest
in
this.
All
those
that
have
put
into
climate
action
kc
that
happen
to
fall
within
the
casey
city.
J
Limits
are
involved
in
this
city,
we're
reaching
out
to
the
center
for
neighborhoods
with
dena,
newman
and
jake,
so
that
they
can.
Let
us
get
us
in
contact
with
more
of
the
neighborhood
focus
groups
and
then,
of
course,
we're
reaching
out
to
pretty
much
o5
lists.
A
a
huge
paragraph
of
all
the
types
of
people
and
groups
we
have
to
reach
out
to
so
once
we've
got
those
stakeholders
that
we
already
know
down.
J
Then
we're
going
to
delve
down
into
these
other
groups
and
say
hey
what
who
still
isn't
represented
out
of
out
of
the
paragraph
and
o5
we
need
to
get
represented
and
that's
when
I'm
going
to
start
reaching
out
to
some
of
the
folks.
I
see
here
on
the
phone
that
we're
very
interested
in
having
an
equitable
process
such
as
the
sunrise
movement,
casey,
tenets
bike,
walk
kc.
J
You
know
a
lot
of
those
folks.
We're
going
to
reach
out
to
we've
got
what
a
good
black
lives
matter
chapter
going
here
right
now,
the
naacp
we've
got
a
great
lgbtq
community
and
the
fringe
community
that
we
can
reach
out
to
as
well.
So
we're
we're
pretty
much
just
gonna
hit
everybody.
We
know
and
then
have
everybody.
We
know
hit
everybody,
they
know
until
we
we
have
and
then
the
the
big
thing
is
we
we
could
have
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
people
involved
in
this
process.
That's
going
to
make
it
really
muddy.
J
To
put
a
plan
together,
so
that's
going
to
take
some
input
from
the
consultant,
but
it's
also
going
to
then
they're
going
to
have
to
want
to
participate
in
the
process.
So
I
have
a
feeling
a
lot
of
these
groups
that
we
reach
out
to
are
going
to
be
yeah.
We're
great
keep
us
informed,
but
we
don't
really
want
to
be
super
involved
in
it.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
have
that
going
on
too.
J
H
Yes,
yes,
it
does
so
yeah.
I
mean
I
I
forget
what
context
it
was,
but
I
was
on
a
separate
call
and
then
the
question
came
up.
Oh
no,
no,
I
think
I
was
reviewing
the
minutes
from
a
meeting
in
the
past
couple
months
that
I
unfortunately
couldn't
attend,
but
I
think
one
of
the
questions
was
you
know
for
folks
who
are
not
connected
to
email
internet.
That
kind.
L
H
J
Yes
and
those
the
I
mean
I,
yes,
the
digital
divide
is
gonna.
It's
gonna
be
something
that
we're
gonna
have
to
have.
The
consultant
definitely
address,
but
I
know
that
we
have,
through
our
connections
with
bridging
the
gap
and
heartland
conservation
alliance
and
center
for
neighborhoods,
and
then
work
with
neighborhoods
such
as
ivanhoe
and
blue
hills
that
are
very,
very
active,
neighborhoods.
I
J
Have
ways
to
get
this
out
and
you
know
at
first
this
was
going
to
be
a
process
of
going
to
you
know
public
meetings
and
church
services
and
everything
else.
We
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
look
even
in
the
next
couple
of
months
with
kovids.
So
if,
if
we're
back
in
to
any
level
of
normalcy,
normalcy,
where
we
can
go
into
those
places,
we
will,
but
it's
mostly
going
to
be
us
connecting
with
the
people
that
can
connect
with
the
people
there's
very
few
of
us
in
the
office.
So.
D
J
D
B
B
As
commissioners,
we
can
all
individually
participate
in
the
marked
planning
processes
or
the
city
planning
processes,
but
we
also
have
actions
that
are
on
the
record.
We
have
actions
that
we
have
taken
that
are
recommendations
by
the
commission
that
the
commission
has
approved
that,
presumably
we
could
forward
as
comments
in
these
different
processes.
This
example
would
be
our
recommendation
that
the
2021
energy
code
would
be
adopted.
B
Maybe
we
need
to
be
able
to
find
a
way
to
make
sure
that
that
same
information
gets
input
into
these
different
processes.
Michael,
I
want
you
to
jump
in
here.
One
of
my
concerns
is
that
you
have
done
all
this
work
on
the
report
that
went
to
council
and
there
may
be
things
in
that
report.
That
would
be
pertinent
to
questions
that
are
being
raised
by
the
focus
planning
process
or
the
mind.
D
I
D
So
for
trying
to
do
it
as
as
a
full
commission,
I
think
that
the
approach
that
we've
taken
in
the
past
of
offering
up
a
letter
of
support,
I
think
is,
is
pro-
would
probably
be
my
offering
beyond
that.
I,
because
I
also
want
to
be
mindful
of
of
people's
safety,
we're
still
in
the
midst
of
the
pandemic.
B
If,
for
example,
any
commissioner
remembered
something
that
they
contributed
to,
for
example,
the
recommendations
that
michael
compiled
and
wanted
those
recommendations
inputted
into
one
of
these
processes,
it
isn't
so
much
a
letter
to
the
council,
because
many
of
these
processes
are
deliberative
and
they're
regenerative.
As
issues
are
brought
up,
then
other
people
are
invited
to
comment
and
weigh
in,
and
so
it
would
be.
How
do
we
get
the
input
of
things?
We've
worked
on
into
these
processes
and
how
do
we
characterize
them?
B
D
So
I'll
I'll
start
off
by
saying
that,
especially
given
the
context
of
the
civil
unrest
over
the
murder
of
george
floyd,
we
we
can't-
and
we
should
not
be
surprised-
that
the
the
issue
of
the
these
suggestions
from
us
is
being
pushed
a
little
bit
further
down
on
the
totem
pole.
It's
not
our
time
plain
and
simple,
and
I
don't
say
that
to
be
disrespectful.
D
I
say
it
because
it's
the
truth
with
regards
to
the
mind
mixer,
because
that's
not
an
official
function,
I
don't
think
that
there's
going
to
be
any
issue,
if
individually,
we
reach
out
and
contribute
to
that,
I
I
was.
I
was
asked
to
to
contribute
to
a
conversation
on
on
transportation
earlier
on
in
that
process,
and
so
I
don't
think
that
there
would
be
any
issue
with
us
individually
doing
that
and
insane
and
bringing
to
the
wider
group's
attention.
These
are
the
things
that
the
emc
has
done
here
in
kansas
city.
H
H
You
know
I've
had
conversations
with
friends
of
mine
nationally
who
work
for
various
nonprofits,
and
I
mean
just
the
the
shifts
in
terms
of
the
conversation
about
what
is
and
is
not
an
environmental
issue
and
where
it
flexes
and
interacts
with
social
justice
and
with
anti-racist
movements
and
stuff.
Like
that,
I
think
that
you're
right.
I
think
that
this
is
probably
not
the
environmental
movement
to
talk
about
environmental
concerns
per
se.
H
A
Well,
I
don't
know
about
that
issue,
but
the
one
you
brought
up
I'd
like
to
speak
to
before.
I
think
that
it
is
it's
obvious.
It's
been
obvious
to
me
for
years
that
our
economic
system
and
our
racism
is
holding
up
anything
intelligent
or
sensitive,
that
we
do,
and,
and
so
we
should,
we
should
be
helping
with
this
black
lives
matter.
A
Matt
matter
thing,
and
I
don't
know
how
to
facilitate
it.
We
we
were
talking
earlier
about
what's
political
and
what
isn't
this
this?
This
is
right.
In
our
I
mean
the
fact
that
that
michael
is
saying
it
just
isn't
our
time
and
it
isn't
our
time
it's
because
we
haven't
taken
time
earlier
for
500
years
and
I
go
back
to
columbus,
but
I
I
don't
personally.
A
D
F
F
G
I
don't
think
anything
prohibits
you
from
from
doing
that.
The
emc's
rules
of
procedure
does
lay
out
what
its
purpose
is
it.
You
know
it
lists
a
couple
things
that
that
are
also
in
the
code,
but
I
don't
think
it's
for
for
staff
to
tell
you
that
you
can't
do
that.
I
mean
there's
nothing
prohibiting
that.
D
D
Then
it's
sometimes
hard
for
us
to
sort
of
see
and
connect
with
the
broader
picture,
and
so
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
for
us
to
to
bring
justice
in
to
have
a
conversation
and
to
say
you
know
our
our
dealings.
Our
work
is
in
advising
the
city
on
environmental
issues,
but
we
also
recognize
that
there
are
intrinsic
equity
considerations
we
have
to
make
and-
and
we
have
a
responsibility
to
be
anti-racist
in
that
space
as
well.
D
B
A
A
D
Yes,
all
right,
so
I
I
I
think
I
just
figured
it
would
be
good
to
hear
from
him
and
and
because
I
think
it
really
is
a
learning
opportunity
for
all
of
us.
I
think
that
that
we
all
have
been.
We
we've
all
been
impacted
in
some
way
by
what
happened
to
george
floyd.
I
think
I
think
many
of
us
are
rightfully
asking
you
know.
D
A
M
So,
michael
so
michael,
this
is
bob.
I
I
want
to
say
I
think
it'd
be
a
great
idea
for
us
to
hear
him,
but
I
would
push
back
a
little
bit
on
what
you
said.
I
I
think
I
understood
what
you
said
when
you
met
this
is
not
our
time,
and
I
I
agree
with
that
at
one
level,
but
in
another,
if
we
care
about
black
lives,
it's
ever
more
important
that
we
really
speak
up
and
get
clear
about
the
environmental
impact
that
we
are
facing
and
especially
those
black
lives.
D
D
The
reason
why
I
said
that
this
is
not
our
time
is
because,
while
yes,
I
vehemently
agree
with
you
that
climate
change
is
an
issue
that
directly
impacts
communities
made
up
of
people
who
look
like
me.
However,
the
immediate
issue,
the
immediate
issue
for
which
people
have
been
protesting
is
the
knee
on
the
neck
of
people
who
look
like
me.
L
D
Is
not
an
environmental
issue
that
is
a
policing
issue
all
right.
I
I
understand
that
the
issues
with
the
climate
are
are
important.
They
are
existential,
and
I
understand
that.
But
at
the
same
time,
if
the
issue
is
that
a
police
officer
was
kneeling
on
the
neck
of
a
black
man
for
no
other
reason
than
a
20
counterfeit
bill,
the
environment
is
not
the
thing
that
we
need
to
fix.
M
We
can't
say:
okay,
we're
not
going
to
work
on
the
environment
for
the
next
year
until
we
change
all
these
laws
and
and
make
this
right
and
then
readdress
the
environment.
I'm
saying
we
have
to
have
the
courage
and
the
integrity
to
address
both
simultaneously
recognizing
the
priority
and
the
urgency
of
this
moment
with
respect
to.
P
And
I
want
to
echo
what
bob's
saying
because
part
of
it
is
it
started
with
covid
for
me
showing
that
there
was
huge
discrepancies,
it's
people
of
color
that
are
hit
more
by
covid,
so
we
had
a
housing
problem.
We
had
a
housing
crisis,
but
then
coveted
came
and
it's
become
more
of
a
crisis.
There's
been
a
health
care
crisis
and
it
became
more
of
a
crisis
with
covid,
but
it
became
more
of
a
crisis
for
people
of
color,
so
we
were
already
there
and
then
you
add
this.
P
D
Well,
what
I'm
going
to
say
is
that
there
has
been
no
indication,
at
least
from
what
I
have
seen
from
organizers
or
anyone
else,
that
the
environmental
issues
be
put
on
the
back
burner
for
a
year
and,
frankly,
I'm
a
little
insulted
that
bob
is
making
that
assertion
without
seeing
any
place.
That
specifically
says
that,
with
regards
to
the
previous
comment,
like
I
said,
no
one
is
saying
that
the
environment
is
not
an
issue
and
and
that
climate
change
is
not
an
issue
that
we
don't
need
to
deal
with.
D
But
the
reason
why
we're
we're
saying
just
wait
is
because
this
is
something
that
that
black
people
and
people
of
color
are
still
working
to
absorb.
George
floyd
was
put
in
the
ground
yesterday
and
I
still
have
not
watched
the
video
and-
and
my
point
is,
is
not
that
I'm
saying
I
don't
want
to
work
on
this
issue.
It's
not
saying
that.
I
don't
care
about
that.
If
I
didn't
think
that
it
was
still
somewhat
of
a
priority,
I
wouldn't
be
on
this
call
today.
D
H
H
What
do
we
need
to
do
like
like?
We
can't
just
stand
here
and
sit
here
and
say
you
know
like
we're.
Gonna
get
these
consultants
we're
gonna,
bring
in
these
people,
we're
going
to
plan
all
this
stuff
and
and
not
have
any
kind
of
feelers
out
there
in
actual
contact
with
people
who
are
directly
impacted
with
this
stuff.
We
need
to
bring
them
into
this
conversation
and
go
to
the
people
who
were
impacted
directly
in
order
to
have
that
conversation
in
the
first
place
and
that's
a
justice
issue.
H
Q
I
was
just
about
to
ask
that
marty.
I
can
we
just
unequip.
What
is
our
ability
to
put
out
a
statement
affirming
that
george
floyd
was
murdered
black
lives
matter
and
that
we
need
serious
reform
regarding
policing
in
this
country
completely?
We
don't
need
to
do
some
connecting
it
to
the
environment.
This
is
this
is
the
what
work.
What
we're
facing
right
now
is
a
country,
and
I
don't.
Q
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
room
to
be
trying
to
namby
pamby
it,
especially
because
we
are
a
predominantly
white
committee,
michael's,
the
only
black
member
of
the
committee
like
we
can't.
We
have
to
recognize
the
fact
that
he
can't
be
carrying
this
water
and
doing
this
labor
for
us,
so
why?
Why
can't
we,
as
that
sort
of
as
a
committee
comprises
such
do
something
like
that.
G
J
B
Is
nine
quorum
yeah?
It
is.
I
think
that
would
be
fine.
I
I
I
would
like
for
us
to
to
be
intentional
about
how
we
say
it
so
that
we
say
something:
that's
meaningful
one
of
the
the
things
that
strikes
me
about
the
current
moment.
That
really
is
most
heartbreaking.
Honestly,
is
we've
been
at
these
moments
before
and
and
not
enough
has
changed?
B
For
this
to
be
the
beginning
of
a
different
kind
of
society,
and-
and
I
for
me,
that's
what
I
wish
we
could
find
a
way
to
say
it's
not
like
you.
We
have,
we
see
these
shootings
and
we
see
young
people
that
are
up
in
arms
about
the
shootings
and
it's
just
like
it's
forgotten
in
a
heartbeat,
and
it
just
this
can't
be
like
that.
B
Well
to
me
it's
to
me,
it's
that
this
is
not
this
is
this
moment
is
not
a
moment.
This
is
a
pattern
of
something
that
should
have
been
changed
a
long
time
ago.
We
can
see
clearly
that
it's
not
working,
it
needs
to
not
be
forgotten.
There
needs
to
be
sort
of
the
continuity
of
change.
This
can't
be
just
the
police
force,
it
has
to
be
the
police
force,
it
has
to
be
schools,
it
has
to
be
each.
M
B
M
M
Let
me
second
what
carol
said.
First
of
all,
I
think
we
should
make
a
statement,
but,
but
I
think,
she's
exactly
right.
This
is
if
we
want
to
be
effective.
This
is
not
an
easy
letter
to
write
and
it
isn't
anything
that
she's
going
to
draft
tonight,
and
I
will
edit
and
it'll
be
out
tomorrow
in
my
mind,
and
I
and
I
will
ask
the
staff
if
they
would
share
the
letter
that
I
wrote
to
the
marin
council
which
you'll
see
when
you
see
the
letter
didn't
happen
overnight
either.
M
I
it
happened
over
a
period
of
time
and
finally,
at
one
of
the
demonstrations
I
just
had
to
hit
the
send
button.
I
it's,
but
it
is
important
and
we
should
make
a
statement,
and
so
I
I
would
I
think
we
ought
to.
We
ought
to
pass
this
motion
and
then
maybe
carol
and
I,
with
others,
could
take
on
the
task
of
trying
to
write
an
appropriate
letter
for
all
of
us.
M
A
F
M
M
P
P
F
B
B
Q
B
D
B
B
F
B
It
was
last
paul.
Well,
forgive
me
the
other.
I
mean
as
long
as
we're
talking
about
meetings.
Let's
just
do
one
other
thing.
We
will
need
to
have
a
meeting
regarding
the
evaluation
of
the
environmental
achievement
awards
and
I
laura.
Would
you
be
willing
to
set
up
I'd
swim
sometime,
the
end
of
july
for
commissioners
who
are
interested
in
reviewing
applications.
J
J
I
would
like
to,
if
you
don't
mind,
send
out
because
they're
supposed
to
be
due
the
12th
of
this
month,
I
was
thinking,
maybe
moving
it
another
week
or
so,
and
sending
out
another
push
to
see.
If,
because
I
know,
a
bunch
of
people
are
just
now
getting
back
to
city
hall
this
week
and
then
we
could
set
something
up
with
those
commissioners
to
call
for
reviewing
is.
C
J
B
I
don't
know,
do
you
feel
like
you'd
get
more?
Would
we
get
any
more
yeah,
I'm
inclined
to
go
ahead
and
do
it
in
august,
okay,
myself
just
go
ahead
and
extend
the
application
period
another
week
and
then
let
laura
connect
contact
all
of
the
emc
members
for
an
informal
zoom
meeting
to
review
the
submissions.
B
J
C
B
R
B
B
J
C
Yes,
it's
not
particularly
long,
so
I've
got
good
news
and
bad
news,
so
I
guess
we'll
start
with
the
bad
news
so
budget,
so
just
thought.
I'd
give
you
an
update
on
where
the
city
is
with
that
we've
been
asked
by
council
to
basically
look
at
the
city
budget,
so
all
the
department
directors
were
asked
to
basically
look
for
ways
to
basically
go
through
what
we
call
a
budget
reduction
exercise.
C
C
So
it's
been
an
interesting
week,
kind
of
looking
at
the
numbers
and
talking
with
our
financial
officer
for
our
office
or
for
our
department
and
just
considering
what
what
our
options
are,
so
it
this
won't
affect
our
climate
protection
planning
process.
We
basically
have
25
000
that
was
put
in
our
budget
it
it.
C
C
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
just
let
the
commission
know
that
this
is
it.
This
is
going
on
through
all
the
general
fund
departments.
It's
public
works
parks,
so
you
know
that
there
are
maybe
some
changes
down
the
road,
and
so
I
just
kind
of
want
to
keep
you
in
the
loop
on
that.
So
I
don't
really
have
any
more
specifics
at
this
point.
It's
really
going
to
come
down
to
the
june
25th
meeting
and
what
the
council
decides
to
do.
C
C
M
So
andy,
what
what
do
in
the
past?
What
have
other
departments
done
when
there's
that
kind
of
I
mean
in
your
case
there
isn't
anything
to
take
four
and
a
half
percent
of
I
mean
if
you
eliminated
a
person,
it's
a
whole
lot
more
than
that
and
you
don't
have
anything
else
to
eliminate.
So
what
what?
What
have
other
departments
done?
Are
there
any
precedents
for
how
this
gets
dealt
with?
Well,.
C
C
Does
my
office
have
to
be
a
full
four
and
a
half
percent,
or
will
another
division
possibly
be
able
to
contribute
more
to
offset
what
I
might
not
be
able
to
give
up?
So
our
financial
officer
for
the
city
manager's
office
will
be
looking
at
us
as
a
whole
and
taking
where
they
can
to
see.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
does
the
city
manager's
office
meet
the
four
and
a
half
percent
cut?
M
G
A
C
A
bit
of
good
news,
then
the
renewable
direct
program-
and
I
know
molly,
always
asks
me
this
question
at
all
these
systems,
though,
I'm
happy
to
report
molly
that
at
least
renewable
direct
I've
been
in
touch
with
evergy.
We
there
we
are
moving
forward.
There
are
some
things
that
are
moving
this
program
forward.
If
I
hadn't
mentioned
already,
there
are
going
to
be
two
resources
that
the
city
will
be
accessing.
It
will
not
be
a
single
wind
farm,
but
actually
two
wind
farms.
C
So
essentially
one
of
those
is
going
to
is
located
in
meade,
county
kansas
and
the
other
one
will
be
in
marion
county
kansas.
What
was
the
first
one?
It's
a
meade
county,
kansas.
Sorry,
I
haven't
looked
it
up
on
a
map,
I'm
not
sure
where
they
are,
but
the
first
one's
called
cimarron
bend.
3
is
the
name
of
the
wind
farm.
C
C
C
So
we're
just
working
through
some
of
the
administrative
behind
the
scenes
things
to
keep
this
moving
forward,
but
we'll
I'll
keep
you
posted
on
how
that
goes.
But
that
was
a
bit
of
good
news
from
evergy
last
week.
So
just
wanted
to
pass
that
along
just
so.
I
can
appease
molly
and
get
her
off
my
back
for
a
while.
N
C
Yeah
I
mean,
and
that's
the
thing
I
inquired
about
what
other
organizations
had
signed
on
to
the
renewal
book
direct
program
and
well
ted.
They
are
tight-lipped
about
that
they're.
Not
really.
I
think
they're
gonna
be
more
inclined
because
we
did
talk
about
the
rollout
of
this
program.
You
know
in
terms
of
a
mayor's
challenge.
You
know
communications,
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
you
know
we're
going
to
do
that.
It's
going
to
be
a
couple
of
months
before
we
really
start
doing
that,
but
you
know
I
was
wanting
to
kind
of
know.
C
C
C
Council
was
to
have
a
retreat
last
week
with
the
directors
to
basically
identify
what
their
goals
are
and
in
the
creation
of
a
new
five-year
business
plan
and
for
us,
the
five-year
business
plan
kind
of
sets
out
our
you
know,
main
objectives,
our
main
goals,
strategies
and
so
for
us,
it's
always
been.
It's
been
the
climate
protection
plan
resilience
and
some
affordable
housing
issues.
C
The
budget
questions
I
think
they
decided
friday
last
friday
was
not
a
good
time
to
do
this.
That
there's
several
more
issues
to
kind
of
consider
and
gather
information
about
so
they've
pushed
that
discussion
that
that
council
retreat
until
july-
and
I
just
found
out
that
supposedly
the
public
should
be
able
to
at
least
view
or
their
their
intention
is
to
try
to
have
the
public
be
able
to
view
those
conversations.
C
Other
than
that,
you
know
our
office.
We've
got
a
lot
of
things
going
on.
We've
done
a
lot
trying
to
get
our
hands
on
some
grant
money
so
lars
and
jerry
and
staff
we've
all
been
kind
of
looking
at
various
opportunities
for
various
aspects
of
whether
it's
the
planning
process
or
the
engagement
or
whatever.
C
P
B
F
O
Okay,
yeah
and
now
I
have
some
cylon.
We
got
a
teething
little
man
here,
so
it's
he's
a
little
bit
of
a
terrorist,
so
I've
been
on
mute,
the
entire
time
special
committee
on
housing.
They
met
for
the
first
time
today,
as
this
meeting
has
been
going
on.
Nothing
pertinent
is
as
far
as
this
committee
goes,
but
I
hope
that
they
just
believe
they're
resuming
that
work.
I
know
with
my
other
appointed
board
for
central
city
sales
tax.
O
This
will
likely
come
up
before
that
committee,
which
is
why
I
mentioned
it
now.
We
just
received
today
our
proposals
in
response
to
rfp
that
went
out
in
march.
We
received
27
proposals
for
the
central
city,
and
the
majority
of
them
are
affordable
housing
related.
So
we
should
be
going
through
that
process
of
selecting
the
proposals
and
and
hopefully
having
that.
B
B
C
Not
at
this
time,
I'm
working
on
an
agenda
with
our
city
architect,
so
hopefully
we'll
put
together
a
meeting
here
sometime
in
the
next
week
or
two
a
lot
of
those
folks
they're
outside
the
city
and
there's
it's
we're
stretched
a
little
thin.
So
I
thought
I'd
give
them
a
little
bit
more
time
while
we
work
on
a
an
agenda,
but
I
suspect,
probably,
if
not
this
month
and
early
next.
B
M
A
lot
of
that
has
come
through
the
aviation
committee
of
the
chamber
and
kind
of
one-way
communications
with
me
and
them
the
department
and,
and
then
this
report
today
from
casey
from
evergy.
So
it
seems
pretty
good.
I
should
say,
because
it
relates
a
lot
to
us,
the
climate
action
committee
we
met
recently.
We
heard
we
heard
the
same
report
that
you
just
heard
earlier
from
laura,
and
we
spent
some
time
beyond
that.
M
Talking
about
the
energy
code
and
being
sure
that
we
were
all
supporting
the
2021
standard
and
and
being
aggressive
about
that.
If
we
care
about
what
the
resolution
they've
already
passed,
it's
important
that
the
energy
code
be
upgraded
and
advanced
with
the
new
standards
rather
than
what
standards
that
are
already
obsolete.
C
C
Okay,
great
yeah,
we
I've
kind
of
we
had
some
conversations
about
trying
to
do
a
community
solar
project
with
evergy
one
that
would
be
a
little
bit
more
centrally
located,
possibly
using
one
of
our
landfills,
but
one
that
would
be
closer
to
the
community
and
they
seemed
very
interested
in
that
project.
But
they
wanted
to
get
that
one
done
first
before
they
move
on
to
anything
different
or
new.
So.
B
B
R
At
that
time
I
think
we'd,
given
the
impression
that
the
commission
would
draft
a
letter
of
support
to
show
that
you
know
there
are
kansas,
city-based
business
that
has
some
tools
that
they've
developed
to
help.
You
know
put
data
data-driven
decisions
behind
climate
change
actions,
so
I
wanted
to
throw
that
back
out
there.
I
think
we
followed
up
a
little
bit
in
in
the
fall,
but
it
kind
of
dropped
after
that
period.
H
Well,
so
if
I
remember
the
correct
organization,
scott
and
it
kind
of
looks
like
you're
a
disc
jockey
with
those
huge
headphones,
I
feel
like
you
have
a
radio
show.
Wasn't
there
was
some
kind
of
other
software
that
was
being
phased
out
at
the
time
and
so
bob
didn't.
You
all
also
talk
about
potentially
proposing
that
this
new
software
be
phased
in.
M
M
C
C
We
started
just
trying
to
talk
about
how
we
can
kind
of
do
this
more
of
a
regional
approach,
and
so
you
know,
whereas
kansas
city
would
pitch
in
a
certain
amount
burst
and
other
cities
could
collectively
try
to
acquire
that.
You
know
the
the
immediate
software
that
we
have
is
one
that
we've
been
using
for
several
years
they've,
provided,
I
believe,
an
upgrade
for
us,
and
you
know
our
analyst
and
of
course,
jerry
are
familiar
with
using
that
software.
C
The
last
conversation
I
had
was
with
tom
and-
and
it
wasn't
all
that
long
ago,
we
just
kind
of
touched
base
with
each
other
and
kind
of
you
know.
I
was
kind
of
relying
on
him
because
he
said
he
had
the
staff
to
at
least
look
at
dig
a
little
deeper
on
its
functionality
and
how
it
works,
whereas
I
just
we
just
here
in
the
city,
I
don't
have
that
kind
of
capability.
F
F
M
The
quality
of
the
tool
number
one
and
number
two
if
they
thought
it
was
good,
then
promote
that
all
the
cities
participate
this
in
this
development
of
the
and
the
access
to
this
new
tool.
So
everybody
be
using
the
same
thing
in
the
region
and
they
wanted
a
local
client
because
they
invented
it
here
and
they're
selling
it
elsewhere
across
the
country.
And
it
didn't
make
sense
that
no
one
in
their
hometown
was
using.
M
M
M
M
And
or
the
consultant
and
or
roland
park,
I
guess
what
I
am
aware
of
is
their
tool
is
dynamic
and
it's
a
whole
lot
better
than
a
spreadsheet,
which
gets
filled
out
once
a
year
and
then
as
a
fixed
object
and
theirs
is
a
plug
and
play.
You
can
explore
different
strategies
if
you're
a
city,
council
person
or
anyone
in
the
community
that's
their
advantage.
M
H
So,
just
out
of
curiosity,
scott
and
bob,
can
it
be
crowd
sourced
as
well
so
like?
If
we're
talking
about
a
dynamic
conversation
with
our
communities
as
we're
trying
to
create
awareness,
could
it
be
leveraged
in
that
way
as
well?
So
that
a
lot
of
you
know
anybody
could
access
and
kind
of
tweak
and
play
with
it.
M
The
anybody
any
I
guess
at
one
level
you
could
they
have
to
collect
data
and
inform
they
have
to
put
the
big
data
in
the
program
for
it
to
be
useful
for
you
right.
In
other
words,
they
haven't
put
the
all
the
data
for
all
the
counties
in
the
united
states
in
the
system
right
now.
So
when
you
pay
a
fee,
they
they
load
in
all
the
data.
That's
going
to
be
useful
for
you
for
your
analysis
and
your
comparisons,
but
yeah.
H
R
I
think
I
think
you
can
ben,
because
you
know
patrick
and
sonny
have
described
it
to
me
on
a
couple
of
occasions
like
that
and
part
of
their
vision
is
to
be
able
to
for
for
individual
businesses,
individual
citizens,
individual
government
groups,
you
know
employees
who,
whoever
their
customer
base
would
be
then
could
all
do
those
kinds
of
things.
So
then
it's.
H
Not
just
a
policy,
it's
a
communication
tool
as
well
I
mean
so
one.
When
google
came
out
with
google
sunroof,
it
was
a
tool
that
a
lot
of
end
users
could
access
to
see
if
that
was
even
a
possibility
or
what
the
actual
irradiation
factor
would
be
on
their
roof
and
in
their
direct
area,
and
it
just
it
helped
them
picture
something
that
before
had
just
been
a
very
abstract
kind
of
notion.
So
I
don't
know.
I
would
think
that
if
it
could
be
leveraged
to
help
engage
a
wider
audience
as
well.
F
R
R
I
L
L
I
think
that
pursuing
an
anti-racist
agenda
or
or
anti-racist
curriculum
would
be
really
beneficial
for
the
group.
That's
something
that
we've
been
pursuing
as
part
of
our
participation
in
missouri's
energy
efficiency
for
all
coalition,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
resources
that
I
don't
think
the
group
would
have
any
problem
sharing
with
you
guys,
if
you're
interested
in
pursuing
that
we'd
be
very
supportive
and
happy
to
help
you
and
it'll
also
help.
L
H
Yeah,
there's
I
don't
know,
I
feel
like
as
environmentalists,
it's
very
difficult
to
universalize
benefits
for
things,
and
there
was
an
article
in
the
new
york
times
about
the
moment
that
we're
in
right
now-
and
it
was
from
an
african
studies,
major
professor
who
is
saying
that,
like
anti-racist,
is
not
enough,
what
we
experience
is
anti-blackness
and
in
the
united
states
I
feel
like
the
opposite
of
that
is
is
not
like
it.
You
can
be
pro-black,
you
can
be
pro
mexican.
You
can
be
pro,
you
know,
insert
a
group.
H
F
A
S
Hello
yeah,
just
just
to
reiterate
what
I
just
wrote
here
but
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
letter.
You
submitted
to
the
counseling
mayor,
and
just
just
so
you
know
those
council
members
that
we
spoke
to.
They
were
intrigued
by
the
fact
that
the
that
the
commission
did
send
this
letter
and
it
did
seem
to
help
them.
You
know,
leave
their
you
their
comfort
zone
here
of
business
as
usual
that
there
probably
might
have
followed.
If,
if
we,
if
you,
if
people
or
if
that.