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A
Call
this
meeting
to
order
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
the
first
meeting
of
the
interim
joint
committee
on
transportation
for
the
2023
interim
for
Colorado
remind
you
all
to
silence
your
cell
phones,
also
all
the
meeting
materials.
Today's
meeting
are
currently
available
on
the
transportation
committee
page
on
the
lrc
website.
B
E
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
As
most
of
you
may
know,
the
house
has
lost
one
of
our
own.
Just
a
few
weeks
ago,
representative
Layman
Swann
was
a
freshman
represented
from
Lexington
and
a
member
of
the
House
Transportation
committee,
who
was
tragically
taken
from
us
way
too
soon,
even
though
he
was
with
us,
but
a
very
short
time.
His
personality
and
his
spirit
will
always
be
remembered.
F
If
you
ever
had
a
chance
to
meet
and
speak
to
him,
you
would
know
what
I'm
saying
when
I
say
his
personality
and
his
spirit,
and
so
with
that
at
this
time
I'd
like
to
ask
that
representative
Roberts
the
minority
whip,
be
recognized
for
some
thoughts
on
the
passing
of
Representative
Swan
representative
Roberts.
Thank.
G
You
chairman,
each
of
us
here
who
has
won
these
seats
when
you
write
to
us,
you
refer
to
us
as
The,
Honorable
and
I.
Think
the
public
would
probably
take
issue
with
calling
many
of
us
honorable,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
if
anyone
had
truly
earned
that
title,
it
was
lamin
Swann,
representative
Swann,
while
his
time
here
was
short,
left
an
impact
in
this
place
that
will
last
for
eons
passed
his
time.
G
He
was
truly
the
ultimate
height
of
a
servant,
leader
and
I'm,
proud
to
have
called
him
a
friend
even
for
a
short
time.
I
know
my
colleagues
feel
the
same
way.
I
would
ask
this
body
to
please
keep
his
family
in
their
prayers
and
thoughts.
Specifically
his
mother,
Pamela
and
I
would
also
ask
this
body,
especially
those
of
us
here
on
the
transportation
committee,
to
carry
on
his
legacy
of
advocacy
for
those
in
the
disabled
community
and
those
with
accessibility
issues.
G
That
was
one
of
the
main
reasons
he
wanted
to
serve
on
transportation,
to
make
sure
that
as
we're
making
decisions
for
our
roadways,
our
public
transportation
throughout
the
state
that
we
think
about
those
who
would
have
unique
challenges
to
accessing
our
entire
Commonwealth
and
now
I
would
ask
if
the
members
would
please
join
me
in
standing
for
a
moment
of
silence.
In
remembrance
of
our
dear
colleague,.
A
Our
new
members
are
representative
Elliott,
representative
heron,
representative
Hosten,
representative
Iams,
representative
Neighbors,
representative
Roberts,
representative
Wesley,
representative
Wilson
Williams,
also
Senator
Carpenter,
Senator,
Mills
and
Senator
Williams
welcome
each
of
you
all
to
the
committee
and
it's
an
honor
to
serve
with
you
this
year
and
and
the
years
to
come.
A
Our
first
presenter
today
really
needs
no
introduction,
but
we
will
introduce
him.
Where
is
there?
He
is
secretary
secretary
gray.
Please
come
forward
in
troduce
yourself
for
the
record
in
the
floor.
Is
yours,
Mr,
Mr,
secretary.
A
H
H
Now,
as
the
chairman
said,
there's
a
very
you
all
got
a
robust
agenda
here
today
and
you've
got
a
number
of
the
members
of
the
cabinet
who
are
going
to
be
speaking
on
the
issues
on
the
agenda
and
what
I
was
asked
to
do
is
spend
just
a
few
minutes
to
given
a
sense,
an
overview
of
an
overview
of
what
the
cabinets
work
is
today.
The
major
projects
that
we're
underway
with
and
and
the
issues
that
we're
addressing.
H
So
we
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
kick
off
the
legislative
interim
with
this
update
and
I
want
to
start
with
an
update
on
the
implementing
of
the
2224
biennial
Highway
plan,
which
the
general
assembly
enacted
last
year
and
again
for
for
those
who
are
new
to
the
process,
the
general
assembly
and
I'm
I'm
sure
this
is.
This
is
a
preaching
to
the
choir
in
some
respects.
H
So
forgive
me,
but
the
general
assembly
does
enact
the
plan
that
the
governor
first
presents
and
it's
a
six-year
it's
a
over
a
six-year
Horizon,
but
the
real,
the
real
nuts
and
bolts
of
the
plant
are,
of
course,
the
two-year
plan,
and
so
where
are
we
on
that
plan
today?
Well,
like
everyone
else,
it
seems
that
we
are
finding
some
challenges,
especially
in
the
construction
market.
Today,
it's
tough
to
keep
ourselves
staffed
in
this
really
really
robust
job
market,
but
we're
working
every
day
to
implement
the
highway
plan.
H
H
Well,
we
appreciate
that,
so
it
tells
you
that
there's
a
lot
of
dynamic
interaction
and
progress
is
being
made
every
day
we
work
to
assign
funding
for
the
various
projects
and
the
phases
as
quickly
as
project
development
allows
knowing
something
about
having
having
been
in
the
construction
industry.
All
my
life
learned
that
there
are
lots
of
acronyms
in
the
transportation
world
and
one
of
the
ones
that's
particularly
important,
is
pdr-u
and
c
and
that's
in
the
plan
and
what
are
those
letters
or
that
acronym
stand
for?
H
H
Now,
at
the
same
point,
in
2022
last
year,
we
had
282
projects
awarded
a
little
bit
more
than
this
year,
with
415
million
dollars
of
value
so
far
that
year,
at
the
same
point
in
2022,
so
we're
on
track
we're
on
track
to
awarding
roughly
the
same
amount
of
projects
totally
that
we
awarded
last
year,
which
was
just
under
1.2
billion
or
one
where
it
was
actually
three
million
dollars.
One
million
101
billion
197
million
dollars
worth
of
projects
in
2022..
H
So
the
path
on
a
straight
line
is
pretty
consistent
and
we're
expecting
to
award
the
same
this
year.
Now
that
does
not
include
that
does
not
include
the
Brent
Spence
Bridge
Corridor
project,
that
is
on
the
horizon.
Now
it
will
be
a
challenge
to
get
that
into
the
lettings
in
this
year,
but
that
can
just
that
just
tells
you
the
scope
of
what
is
on
the
horizon.
H
H
So
let's
talk
about
the
three
Mega
projects:
first,
the
Mountain,
Parkway
and
and
then
I'll
talk
about
the
I-69
Crossing
in
Western
Kentucky
between
Henderson
and
Evansville,
and
then
the
Brent
Spence
project.
So
on
the
Mountain
Parkway,
the
last,
the
last
of
the
parkway
project,
we're
70
I,
see
I,
see
chairman
Blanton
shaking
his
head
and
smiling.
So
this
is
your
report,
sir,
and
those
of
your
colleagues
in
the
caucus.
H
70
percent
is
actually
under
construction
or
has
been
completed
and
a
lot
of
Earth
has
been
moved
and
Paving
Magoffin
County
West
is
under
construction
today
and
is
expected
to
be
completed
in
2024
and
several
Bridges
and
culverts
are
being
built
in
that
segment.
The
wolf
County
segment
has
been
under
construction.
H
For
about
a
year,
nearly
a
million
cubic
yards
of
Earth
has
been
moved
in
Wolf
County
Construction
will
be
going
on
All
Summer
in
Wolf
and
Magoffin
counties,
Morgan
mcgoffin,
County,
Central
and
Salyersville
Restaurant
Row
segments
have,
of
course,
all
been
completed,
Magoffin
Floyd
section,
which
is
the
last
section
currently
under
development,
and
it's
being
proposed
at
this
point
in
time
as
a
design
build
project
which
can
allow
for
acceleration
of
the
project.
But
pre-construction
work
will
continue.
H
This
summer,
we've
hosted
a
very
well
attended
public
meeting
in
February
to
show
folks
the
preferred
option
for
the
extension
from
mcgoffin
to
Floyd
counties,
which
is,
as
the
chair
knows
well
and
many
of
and
and
others
know.
Well,
is
the
over
the
over
land.
The
the
Overland
path,
our
goal-
is
to
release
the
final
RFP
later
this
month
and
award
the
project
later
in
the
summer.
H
So
when
I-69
is
completed
at
the
national
level,
it
will
be
a
north-south
corridor
to
move
people
and
product
people
and
products
from
Canada
to
Mexico
I-69
the
over
the
over
the
Ohio
River
Crossing
is
the
final
connection
of
I-69
between
Evansville
Indiana
and
Henderson
Kentucky
section.
One
of
the
project
on
the
Kentucky
side
is
underway.
Today
it's
160
million
dollar
project.
H
H
H
States
are
preparing
for
the
next
round
of
Grant
requests
for
the
bipartisan
associated
with
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
and
other
opportunities.
Grant
requests
to
supplement
financing,
which
will
provide
an
opportunity
to
accelerate
the
the
bridge
itself,
the
river
crossing,
which
is
currently
planned
to
begin
in
2027.
So
all
that
is
to
say
that
we're
doing
all
we
can
to
accelerate
that
project.
The
I-69
project
as
well;
okay,
the
final
big
project
or
Mega
project
that
we've
identified
as
the
large
projects
and
that's
what
you
wanted
me
to
talk
about
today.
H
We
are
working
diligently
with
Federal
highways,
Administration
fhwa
leadership,
to
accelerate
the
planning
and
the
environmental
updates
that
will
confirm
the
2012
record
of
decision
with
refinements.
That
will
confirm
that
that
2012
decision
is
still
valid
that
was
made
some
and
that
record
of
decision
the
Environmental,
the
environmental
work
that
was
done
in
2012,
of
course,
is
now
almost
11
years
old
and
is
is
requiring
an
update,
we're
also
negotiating
we're
working
on
procurement
for
the
project
itself,
with
engineering
firms
with
construction
firms.
There's
been
a
a
good
interest
in
the
project.
H
Okay,
now
let
me
shift
over
to
I
said
earlier
that
that
I
learned
the
transportation
cabinet
wears
a
lot
of
hats,
and
that
includes,
in
a
sense
being
the
operations
backbone
with
120
counties,
and
you
all
know
this
better
than
I
do.
Perhaps
there
is
a
maintenance
facility
in
every
county
in
the
state
which
translates
into
when
there
is
a
need
and
Frontline
help
is
needed.
Transportation
cabinet
is
expected
and
will
be
there.
H
H
In
the
first
phase
of
debris,
cleanup
contractors
picked
up
more
than
400
000
tons
of
debris
from
roadsides
and
streams
and
in
the
second
phase
contractors
have
picked
up
debris
from
private
property.
The
ppdr
program
that
could
not
be
moved
to
the
roadside,
that's
being
done
for
property
owners
who
make
the
requests
through
their
Fiscal
Court.
H
To
date
it
amounts
to
nearly
1500
tons
in
not
Fletcher
Perry
and
Pike
counties
in
the
latest
phase
contractors
are
beginning
demolition
of
property
that
was
irreparably
damaged
now
in
both
Eastern
and
Western.
Kentucky
transportation
cabinet
continues
to
Aid
disaster
victims
with
emergency
shelter
in
our
fleets
of
travel
trailers.
Again
this
was
a
project
that
wasn't
really
on
the
job
description
of
transportation
cabinet,
but
it's
one
that
was
picked
up
when
the
need
arose.
H
That
is
the
travel
trailer
bring
in
the
travel
trailers
into
both
Western
Kentucky,
after
the
tornado
and
in
Eastern
Kentucky
after
the
floods
at
both
ends
of
the
state.
Our
crews
are
now
decommissioning,
travel
trailers
as
families
make
the
transition
to
permanent
housing
and
that
decommissioning
involves
cleaning
the
units
and
storing
them
for
future
use
in
Western
Kentucky
they're
stored
either
at
the
Wendell
Ford
Regional
Training
Center
in
Muhlenberg
County
or
at
our
own
State
maintenance
facility
in
Ohio.
H
County
units
decommissioned
in
Eastern
Kentucky
are
transported
to
the
Bluegrass
Army
Depot
at
Lexington,
or
to
the
transportation
cabinets
equipment
yard
in
Frankfort
all
right,
Mr
Mr
chairman.
That's
all
of
my
update
with
what
you
asked
me
to
to
bring
you
all
today,
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
If
you
have
or
comments
yeah.
Thank.
A
You
Mr
secretary
and
for
the
new
members
you
kind
of
earned
a
nickname
over
the
last
few
years
and
I
want
to
bring
that
up.
So
they
know
that
you're
passionately
known
as
the
master
of
disaster
well.
H
A
You're
certainly
welcome
and
also
we
will
be
taking
some
questions.
I'm
sure
would
be
a
lot
of
questions,
but
you
want
to
go
on.
No
no
I
was
I
was
going
to
say
that
secretary
gray
will
be
back
for
in
the
future
for
another
meeting
to
talk
strictly
or
talk
in
depth,
about
the
eastern
Kentucky,
cleanup
and
and
and
repairs
and
Bridge
Replacements,
and
all
that's
going
on,
and
it's
it's
we're
going
to
have
a
a
segment
just
for
Eastern
Kentucky.
A
So
unless
you
have
a
very
very
burning
question
about
the
eastern
Kentucky
cleanup
hold
debt
till
a
future
date
when
we
have
the
secretary
back
for
that
and
I
think
that's
next
July,
it's
in
July,
representative
Blanton,
co-chair
Blanton
will
be
having
that
co-chair.
Blanton
has
a
question.
F
Yes,
thank
you
Mr,
chairman
Mr
secretary,
thank
you
for
being
here.
We're
excited
about
that
final
leg
of
the
Mountain
Parkway.
Thank
you
all
for
the
cooperation
and
hard
work
you
all
put
in
not
just
there
but
you're,
always
folks
across
this
state
that
are
to
be
commended
for
the
work
they
do.
Each
and
every
day
they
are
are
truly
sometimes
I
would
say.
F
Underappreciated
employees
of
the
Commonwealth
and
I
do
appreciate
them,
but
I
do
have
a
question
actually
not
involving
the
Mountain
Parkway,
but
rather
the
Brent
Spence
Bridge.
So
I
recently
seen
an
article
dealing
with
the
Ohio
side
where
they
are
seeking
to
make
some
design
changes
over
there
due
to
the
locals
toward
the
bridge
will
be
Crossing
into
Ohio.
Will
that
impact
us
and
if
so,
how.
H
Well,
good
question
good
question:
Mr
chair,
the
short
answer
is,
we
hope
not.
H
We
hope
it
will
not
compromise
the
schedule,
the
efforts
that
are
being
taken
in
terms
of
the
design
efforts,
the
engineering
efforts
have
always
have
always
contemplated
trying
to
get
the
best
value
for
every
dollar
and
part
of
that
is
examining
the
actual
size
of
the
crossing
or
the
bridge
itself,
and
the
the
number
of
lanes,
for
example-
and
that's
been
one
of
the
issues
in
Northern
Kentucky
with
with
Covington,
you
know,
is
making
sure
that
that
we're
not
building
too
much
so
and
a
and
on
the
Ohio
side
there
has
been
some
interest
in
ensuring
that
as
much
developable,
developable
I
think
I'm
saying
that
right
land
is
created
as
a
result
of
the
bridge
and
its
approach
on
the
Cincinnati
side.
H
H
We
are
we're
very
optimistic
that
we'll
work
through
these
issues.
You
know
it's
not,
as
as
as
deputy
secretary
and
former
secretary
Mike
Hancock
sitting
here
knows,
he
was
involved
in
the
Louisville
Bridges
and
Mike
routinely
says
now,
there's
a
lot
of
issues
that
come
up
when
you're
building
these
big
projects
and
you
just
got
to
navigate
through
them
and
that's
what
we're
doing.
C
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
Mr
secretary.
Thank
you
I'm
over
here
behind
the
poll.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
real
quickly.
We
are
very
pleased
with
the
progress
on
I-69.
The
amount
of
work
that's
being
done
there.
Our
community
is
very
thankful
for
that
work
with
that
said,
I
spent
an
hour
and
20
minutes
on
the
Twin
Bridges
today
because
of
one
accident.
C
So
we
are
still
very
concerned
about
how
to
deal
with
the
Twin,
Bridges
and
I
know
I
see
the
secretary
shaking
his
head,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
still
talking
about
how
to
deal
with
that,
because
from
a
medium-sized
area
that
I
call
Northwest,
Kentucky,
Evansville
and
Henderson,
we
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
traffic
that
uses
those
bridges
and
we'll
use
the
I-69
Bridges.
So
it's
a
it's
a
big
concern
for
us
still,
but
we
are
definitely
grateful
for
the
investment
in
the
approaches.
C
Folks,
over
in
Evansville
are
getting
excited
about
planning
and
everything
else.
So
we're
we're
very
excited
about
that.
One
other
question
that
you
touched
on
the
travel
trailers
as
they
are
being
decommissioned
from
Western
Kentucky
and
stored
there.
Are
they
being
cleaned
up
for
sale
or
gifting
or
what's
what's
the
plan
for
those
trailers
in
the
future,
we're
not
going
to
just
let
them
sit
there
and
go
to
waste.
Are
we.
H
You
know
somehow,
when
I
was
when
I
was
reviewing
my
comments
and
Was
preparing
them.
I
somehow
knew
that
I
was
going
to
get
that
very
question
and
I
should
have
prepared
for
it
better.
But
fortunately
you
know
we
have
what
are
called
subject
matter
experts
sometimes
in
the
room
with
us,
John
Moore.
Can
you
help
me
with
that
one
or
is
that
one
off
I
know
we're
not
just
going
to
leave
them
right
right
and.
H
H
We
did
not
resell
them
or
turn
them
back
and
we
had
them
available
and
were
able
to
move
them
literally
in
two
days
to
Eastern
Kentucky
and
we're
not
saying
we're
inventorying
a
lot
of
we're,
not
saying
that
we're
inventorying
trailers,
but
we
are
being
responsible
and
thinking
about
you
know.
These
are
not
just.
It
doesn't
seem
like
that.
They're
just
random
events
anymore,
but
we
should
be
able
to.
We
should
be
able
to
plan
and
that's
part
of
what
we've
done
there.
Okay,
thank
you
John
thanks.
So
much.
A
Well,
if
it's
not
built,
it
won't
be
because
of
funding
except
I,
know
you're
running
into
with
inflation,
we're
running
into
projects
that
are
coming
in
way
over
what
the
estimated
cost
was
going
to
be
on
that.
Could
you
give
us
an
update
on
that?
How
often
that's
happening
and
where
we're
at
with
with
those
projects
that
for
coming
back
that
are.
H
I
think
I
mentioned
earlier
that
we've
awarded
through
April
27,
247
projects
and
and
many
of
those
have
actually,
frankly,
surprisingly
to
me,
I
was
thinking
the
same
thing
that
you're
suggesting,
but
so
frankly,
a
number
of
those
projects
have
been
at
or
below
the
engineer's
estimate.
H
So
that's
the
good
news
in
that
we
are
adjusting
the
estimate,
the
estimates
for
the
current
conditions
and
we're
able
then
to
meet
we're
able
then
to
meet
the
plan
with
the
funds
that
we've
got.
I
Thank
you,
secretary
and
I
did
make
the
trip
in
from
Eastern
Kentucky
today
and
saw
all
the
beautiful
construction
going
on
on
the
Mountain
Parkway.
So
thank
you.
We
look
forward
to
that
completion.
I
do
have
a
quick
question,
though.
I
noticed
that
you
said
that,
with
regard
to
debris,
removal
to
contact
the
fiscal
courts,
that
folks
should
contact
the
fiscal
courts
and
I
noticed
that
you
didn't
list
Floyd
County
as
one
of
those
I'm.
H
I
H
H
H
I
A
Thank
you,
Mr
secretary
I.
Think,
that's
that's
all
the
questions
we
appreciate
you
being
here
and
we'll
see
you
next
month.
Thank
you,
sir
I
want
to
remind
the
members
that
co-chair
Upchurch
and
myself
will
be
meeting
with
our
members
during
the
interim
to
work
on
the
road
to
start
discussions
about
next
year's
Road
plan.
I
encourage
all
of
you
to
get
with
your
local
government
officials
and
and
be
very
familiar
with
your
shift
projects
in
in
your
District,
so
that
that'll
be
a
topic
of
conversation.
A
A
So
just
tell
you
how
the
system
works
sometime,
but
we're
doing
a
little
better
these
days,
but
but
inteller
project
is
is
put
in
the
we
can
have
it
in
the
plan,
but
tell
the
until
it's
in
the
budget.
It's
actually
funded.
Those
projects
are
not
built.
So
this
road
plan
and
the
budgeting
process
is
very
important.
So
I
just
want
to
remind
all
the
new
members
that
how
important
it
is
next
on
our
agenda:
John
Moore,
Justin
Harrod.
A
If
you
don't
mind,
gentlemen,
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
please
proceed.
K
K
Today,
we'll
be
providing
a
a
a
an
incremental
update
for
the
electric
vehicle
infrastructure
deployment
effort.
K
K
So
first
up
I'm
going
to
just
review
the
federal
funding
aspect
for
the
for
the
electric
vehicle
infrastructure
that
provides
the
the
vehicle
for
which
we
can
do
this
in
the
2021
infrastructure,
investment
and
jobs
act,
iija
also
known
as
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law.
Two
pots
of
money
were
identified
under
the
national
electrical
electric
vehicle
infrastructure
program.
You'll
hear
me
call
that
Navi
program
through
the
balance
of
this
presentation.
One
is
a
is
an
allotment
of
formula
funds.
K
Those
are
allocated
to
Kentucky
without
without
competition
and
then
there's
a
discretionary
grant
program,
that's
open
to
all
states
and
and
for
as
in
in
a
competitive
nature
and
I'll
get
into
that
a
little
bit
more
later
on.
Today,
we
have
unlocked
essentially
25
million
of
the
formula
funds
and
we
anticipate
unlocking
another
15
million
later
this
year
when
we
update
our
our
plan.
K
So
our
EV
charging
program,
as
I
mentioned
before
initially
when
we
aren't
Navy
plan,
was
approved
back
in
August
of
2022,
and
with
that
we
secured
two
fiscal
years
of
funding.
That's
the
25
million
we're
due
for
another
update.
The
fhwa
Federal
Highway
Administration
requires
an
annual
update
on
that
when
we
update
that
in
August,
and
ideally
it
gets
approved
in
October
October
that
will
unlock
the
the
fiscal
year
24
funds.
K
The
update
this
year
is
going
to
focus
on
the
the
four
items
that
you
see
there,
as
well
as
additional
elements.
As
we
look
to
polish
up
the
the
plan
and
just
for
information
and
for
anybody,
that's
interested.
We
have
a
stakeholder
meeting
to
help.
Kick
that
process
off
on
June
27th
at
11
o'clock.
Anyone's
welcome
to
attend
to
help
comment
on
this.
K
Just
a
reminder.
The
parameters
that
are
provided
for
the
Navy
program
for
for
the
formula
funds
were
those
funds
initially
are
restricted
to
the
alternative
fuel
Corridor.
These
in
Kentucky
are
the
interstates
and
Parkways
that
are
limited
to
require
charging
stations
every
50
miles
within
a
mile
of
the
corridor,
require
four
150
kilowatt
fast
charging
stations
and
required
to
be
open
to
the
public
24
7..
K
These
are
the
parameters
under
which
a
the
quarter
is
considered
fully
built
out,
and
that
has
that
has
significance
on
where
we
can
use
the
funds
moving
forward
this
program,
the
intent
of
the
program
out
of
the
outset,
is
intended
to
jump
start
the
private
sector,
and
with
that,
we
anticipate
that
these
will
be
fully
privately
owned
and
operated,
and
this
is
a
a
similar
approach
that
many
states
are
using,
just
as
an
example
of
of
what
a
potential
deployment
might
look
like
for
a
if
for
a
station
that
costs
about
1.8
million,
there
will
be
a
construction
phase
and
then
five
years
of
operations
and
maintenance,
that's
considered
the
performance
period
for
the
for
the
construction.
K
Presuming
80
percent
of
it
is
part
of
the
construction
portion
that
would
be
completed
roughly
in
about
15
months.
That's
very
dependent
upon
the
lead
time
on
materials
and
out
of
that,
the
applicant
would
bear
the
the
20
match
the
290
000
in
this
case
and
then
for
the
operational
period.
I
20
percent
of
that
total
would
be
reserved
to
to
reward
the
applicant
for
to
operate
and
maintain
that
through
the
five
years.
K
Just
a
reminder
of
our
of
our
rollout
plan,
currently
we're
in
Phase
One
and
phase
two.
We
cannot
leave
phase
one
and
phase
two
until
we
have
completed
the
build
out
of
the
alternative
fuel
Corridor.
These
are
the
interstates
and
Parkways
the
50
mile
deployment
range
once
we
get
that
completed,
which
we
anticipate
is
going
to
be
toward
the
end
of
2025,
we'll
be
able
to
move
into
the
other
priority
corridors
as
well
as
Community
or
or
destination.
Chargers.
K
So
now
that
we
have
a
little
bit
of
background,
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
implementation,
what
we've
done
to
date
in
support
of
of
implementing
this
this
program,
so
to
start
off
with
back
last
summer,
we
issued
a
request
for
information.
This
is
new
to
us,
as
well
as
new
to
the
private
sector,
so
we
wanted
to
gather
as
much
information
as
we
could
regarding
Contracting
parameters
and
things
that
work.
We
may
not
be
aware
of
from
our
approach.
K
We
got
information
back
in
September
from
that
we
derived
a
number
of
a
number
of
quite
a
bit
of
feedback
from
the
industry,
had
a
I
believe
150
responses
off
of
this.
K
Me
we
had
36
respondents,
wait
36
for
this
early
phase
and
got
feedback
on
on
the
elements
to
consider
moving
forward
feedback
on
the
the
risk-based
procurement,
as
well
as
things
that
the
Snakes
in
the
Grass,
if
you
will,
as
well
as
we
got
positive
feedback
from
the
industry
on
their
willingness
to
to
provide
the
20
match
in
support
of
this
program.
K
Following
that,
based
on
those
those
comments
we
received,
we
put
together
a
draft
request
for
proposals.
We
put
that
out
in
January
for
for
public
comment.
We
received
150
comments
on
this
and
provided
a
quite
a
bit
of
feedback
on
how
these,
how
this
RFP
the
strengths
and
weaknesses
of
the
proposal.
K
With
that
we're
compiling
a
final
RFP,
with
the
intent
to
release
that
later
this
month,
with
this
being
a
first
of
its
kind
deployment,
we've
hit
a
number
of
of
speed
bumps.
If
you
will
as
we're
trying
to
fit
this
unique
deployment
and
procurement
into
the
federal
requirements
that
are
not
don't,
don't
fit
this
type
of
deployment.
Even
with
those
speed
bumps
that
we've
that
we've
encountered,
we
still
expect
to
be
amongst
the
the
earliest
10
states
to
deploy
their
RFP
along
with
that.
K
Some
changes
that
that
you
might
notice
or
someone
might
notice
as
they're
reviewing
the
RFP
is
that
one.
This
is
a
personal
contract
and
in
coordination
with
Federal
Highway
Administration,
we
ensured
that
this
is
compliant
with
their
design,
build
procurement
regulations
to
fit
the
a
procurement
vehicle
to
ensure
compliance.
In
order
to
protect
the
public
interest,
we
included
some
bonding
insurance
requirements
as
well
as
inspection
criteria,
to
make
sure
that
the.
E
K
Stations
are
are
performing
well
as
well
as
a
a
an
element
that
kind
of
snuck
up
on
us.
A
little
bit
is
the
the
return
on
investment
cap
that
the
the
Federal
Highway
Administration
requires
on
projects
and
so
we're
in
having
to
pass
along
that
a
cap
on
return
on
investment
through
at
least
through
the
program
period
or
performance
period
of
the
of
the
deployments.
K
So
here
is
a
is
an
early
version
of
this.
I
will
share
that.
As
of
last
Friday,
we
got
updated
guidance
just
in
time
for
us
to
shift
gears,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
to
revisit
this
to
maybe
chop
up
some
corridors
just
a
little
bit,
but
this
is
essentially
looking
at
potentially
one
station
per
quarter
group.
K
This
would
fully
build
out
the
the
designated
Alternatives
fuel
Corridor
and
then,
at
that
point
we
can
move
into
the
the
phase
three
deployment,
as
well
as
Community
charging
stations
and
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
likely
to
be
to
be
modified
slightly,
as
we
dig
into
the
the
very
recent
guidance
that
came
out
once
we
get
proposals
back
we'll
look
at
that
using
three
criteria.
K
One
is
is
completeness
the
technical
aspect
of
the
proposal
as
well
as,
of
course,
the
cost
with
that,
looking
at
three
bonus
categories:
the
uniqueness
of
the
site,
the
applicants
experience
with
this
type
of
deployment,
as
well
as
the
the
potential
user
experience
of
those
that
that
are
using
these
sites.
K
With
that,
once
we
have
fully
vetted
those
those
proposals
we
expect
to
be,
then
these
proposals
are
due
in
August
we're
allocating
about
a
month
to
review
these
to
identify
which
ones
to
issue
a
notice
of
intent
to
award.
Since
this
is
these
are
federal
funds.
We
have
allocated
a
couple
months
to
ensure
compliance
for
environmental
purposes,
for
those
that
are
less
complicated,
those
that
award
could
come
earlier,
but
were
we
anticipate
that
a
majority
of
these
or
most
of
these?
K
We
hope
that
all
these
will
be
awarded
by
the
December
is
our
goal.
So
that's
where
we
stand
on
the
on
the
formula
funds.
I
want
to
talk
just
briefly
about
the
discretionary
competitive
grant
program.
This
is
a
funding
opportunity
that
came
out
in
March.
It
includes
two
categories
of
funding.
One
is
a
supplement
to
the
quarter
program
to
the
Navy
quarter
program
and
the
second
is
community
program.
K
That's
that's
much
broader
and
has
applicability
for
a
number
of
different
communities
so,
along
with
that,
not
only
the
state
can
apply
for
these,
but
Metropolitan
planning
organizations,
local
governments,
cities
and
counties
or
area
development
districts
are
all
are
all
eligible
to
to
apply
for
these
grants.
K
First
I
want
to
talk
about
the
quarter
program.
These
are
as
I
mentioned.
It's
it's
somewhat
an
extension
of
the
of
the
navi
program.
The
only
Nuance
is
that
it's
open
to
other
fuels
besides
just
electric
vehicles,
but
this
would
apply,
would
allow
a
local
government
or
a
local
entity
to
apply
their
own
location
criteria
to
deployment
of
stations.
This
is
compatible
competitive,
so
it
not
guaranteed
at
all,
but
a
good
opportunity.
K
The
one
that
I
think
has
a
more
opportunity
in
Kentucky
is
the
community
program
grants.
These
are,
can
be
off
of
the
alternative
fuel
Corridor,
so
they're
open
for
any
community
in
Kentucky,
with
a
focus
on,
as
with
all
of
the
Navy
program,
with
environmental
justice
Ada
in
a
rural
area
Focus
as
well.
K
K
To
date,
we're
aware
of
five
different
agencies
that
are
looking
to
put
in
for
this
payroll
area:
development
district
with
the
Three
Counties
noted,
Kentucky,
River
area
development,
District,
Louisville
Metro,
the
Louisville
mpo
kipta,
they're
partnering,
with
Taylorsville
and
Spencer
County,
and
the
last
on
our
list
that
we're
tracking
is
a
city
of
Versailles
is
also
looking
to
put
in
a
put
in
an
application
for
transportations
perspective.
K
We're
looking
we're
have
actually
been
working
with
with
a
group
of
Appalachian
states
to
begin
planning
for
a
deployment
along
the
the
Appalachian
region
and
we're
preparing
a
an
application
for
a
future
cycle
that
for
these
Grant
programs.
K
So
with
that
opened
up
for
questions
and
before
I
just
want
to
leave
this
up
while
we're
talking,
if
you're
interested
in
any
background
on
the
EV
program,
there's
a
QR
code,
you
can
scan
and
it'll
take
you
to
an
opportunity
to
sign
up
as
a
stakeholder
to
get
periodic
updates,
like
today's
update
that
announced
the
stakeholder
meeting
on
the
27th
or
stay
up
to
date
on
the
program.
So.
A
C
You
much
more
a
couple
questions.
You
didn't
mention
the
specifics
on
the
charging
stations
themselves,
the
type
of
charging
stations
are.
These.
Are
there
requirements
that
these
would
all
be
fast,
charging
type
Tesla
type
stations,
or
is
it
a
trickle
charge
or
a
mix
or
what's
the
requirements
in
those
for.
K
The
the
requirement
with
the
federal
program
is
called
Fast,
Chargers,
okay
and
they
are
required
to
be
150
kilowatt,
Chargers,
okay,
anything
above
about
100.
Kilowatts
is
considered
a
fast
charger,
a
new
ones
with
that
currently
Tesla
is
proprietary,
and
so
those
there
there
is
Talk
Amongst,
the
amongst
the
industry
that
they
may
open
up
their
Network
to
others
until
they
do
that
they
they
would
not
be
eligible
for
these
funds.
So.
C
K
A
C
And
then
another
area
of
concern
is:
could
you
expand
on
like
the
the
type
of
people
that
showed
interest
in
these?
Are
these
our
petroleum
marketers
across
the
state
wanting
to
add
these
to
the
stations?
Are
these
specific
developers
that
are
looking
to
move
away
from
the
normal
c-store
type
development
we've.
K
Had
a
a
quite
a
mix
of
those
that
are
interested
I've,
not
seen
a
rundown
of
of
those
I'll
ask
Justin
if
he's
aware
of
of
the
mix,
but.
L
Yeah
so
like
with
regards
to
like
our
RFI
that
we
put
out
last
fall,
you
know
we
got
several
utilities.
Several
petroleum
marketers
was
one
of
them.
We
also
got
you
know
the
the
Private
Industry,
so
we
had
a
quite
a
range
of
sort
of
people
representing
the
of
the
industry
overall,
private
and
public
sector,
as.
K
Well,
we
coordinated
with
the
petroleum
manufacturers
or
the
and
the
the
petroleum
marketers,
as
well
as
a
number
of
the
manufacturers
of
the
EV
charging
station,
so
it's
in
and
we're
steering
no
direction.
It's
whoever
comes
to
us
with
the
best
proposal
that.
C
That
is
one
of
my
biggest
concerns
with
this.
Implementation
is
kind
of
the
crushing
of
the
c-store
convenience
store
petroleum,
marketers
business
and
business
plan,
so
I.
K
Think
they
have
a
very
competitive
footprint
to
to
deploy
these.
K
As
the
program
is
laid
out,
it
would
be
matched
with
with
local
funds
with
private
funds,
and
then
the
federal
funds
would
be
used
for
that.
So
the
as
of
right
now,
the
with
the
formula
funds,
we
don't
don't
anticipate
any
Road
funds
or
or
Kentucky
funds
being
used
to
deploy
those.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
did
you
have
you
have
a
study
of
the
preferred
areas
for
these
type
of
charging
stations?
I
know
you
probably
have
a
layout
across
state.
I
know
you
had
corridors
but
say
my
district
lays
on
75..
Do
you
have
a
study
that
shows
participation
with
electric
vehicles
in
an
area
that
I
can
use
to
encourage?
Maybe
a
local
area
on
getting
these
charging
stations?
I
know
it's
all
due
if
you're
talking
about
private
sectors
all
do
with
with
the
income,
but
even
the
government
areas,
local
governments.
K
As
part
of
our
EV
deployment
plan,
we
didn't
look
at
where
EVS
were
housed,
because
these
are
generally
longer
trips
that
would
be
required.
Public
Chargers.
These
are
more
of
your
Ohio
to
Tennessee
trips
than
or
perhaps
a
Pikeville
to
Paducah
trip,
and
so
it's
not
necessarily
as
important
where
they're
housed,
but
as
part
of
that
we
did
locate
areas
of
the
state
that
were
more
attractive
because
of
amenities
because
of
power
availability
because
of
proximity
along
the
corridor.
A
D
A
C
You,
commissioner,
Miss
Cole,
Miss
Cook
I,
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
of
just
the
situation
in
the
rural
part
of
my
district
dealing
with
kind
of
overweight,
oversized
vehicles.
It's
in
the
it's
in
it's
in
Union,
County,
going
from
Union
County
to
Shawnee
town,
the
Shawnee
Town
Bridge.
There
seems
to
be
kind
of
an
ongoing.
It's
been
going
on
for
four
or
five
years
kind
of
aggressive
ticketing
of
oversized
large
vehicles
that
come
from
Kentucky
to
Illinois
to
farm
in
the
bottom
lands
and
things
of
that
nature.
N
C
C
A
Thank
you
see
no
further
questions.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
Oh
one,
okay,
we
do
have
co-chair.
Blanton
has
a
question.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
Thank
you
all
for
your
presentation
very
quickly.
If
I'm
wanting
to
get
one
of
these
permits
and
I
apply
for
it,
what's
the
average
turnaround
on
something
like
that?
Well,.
N
A
F
Do
you
all
still
have
employees
that
that
deal
with
these
things?
Are
they
still
working
from
home
or
are
they
back
in
their
offices?
Everyone.
N
F
All
right,
very
good,
I
asked
a
question
about
being
back
in
as
I
had
someone
trying
to
apply
for
one
had
some
questions
and
it
took
a
couple
weeks
before
they
could
ever
get
a
hold
of
someone
to
ask
some
questions.
So
I
feel,
like
part
of
that,
maybe
was
when
they
were
working
from
home
and
it
made
it
a
little
more
difficult
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody's
back
in
because
it
does
impact
turnaround
time
on
some
of
this
stuff.
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
they're
back.
A
Well
again,
thank
you
on
some
quick
math
I
did
on
the
eight
million
dollars
that
we
took
in
for
the
transportation
cabinet
last
year.
91
000
permits
it's
about
ninety
dollars
per
permits
that
sound
about
right.
Well,.
A
Okay,
all
right,
seeing
no
further
questions.
I
reminded
everyone
on
the
committee
that
our
next
meeting
will
be
July,
the
18th
due
to
the
fourth
July
holiday
and
I
think
there's
a
conference
in
there.
Thank
you
all.
The
new
members
welcome
again
to
the
committee
thanks
staff
for
for
your.