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A
And
have
a
seat,
we've
got
a
lot
of
guests
in
our
audience
today
and
we
want
to
be
cognizant
of
their
time
and
of
our
time.
So
welcome
to
the
first
meeting
of
the
interim
joint
committee
on
local
government
and
I
want
to
want
to
thank
you
for
being
here
before
we
get
going.
We've
got
just
want
to
introduce
and
welcome.
A
There
are
several
several
new
members
on
this
committee,
one
of
the
reasons
that
we're
doing
the
meeting
that
we're
doing
today,
it's
all
about
education,
All,
About,
Us,
learning
about
local
government,
but
we
want
to
welcome
up
from
the
Senate
side,
Senator
Berg,
Senator,
Elkins
who's,
our
newest
member,
here
to
the
left,
Senator
Bledsoe,
if
she's
here
senator
neimas
and
Senator
Williams.
So
that
is
our
new
that
are
those
are
our
new
members
from
the
Senate
side
and
co-chair
bridges
is
going
to
introduce
the
state
reps.
B
Thank
you,
Senator.
We
are
excited
to
introduce
our
new
members
to
this
committee.
We
have
representative
Beverly
Chester
Burton.
We
have
Representative
Steve,
Doan
representative
Chris,
Freeland,
representative
Jacob,
Justice
representative
Rebecca,
Raymer
representative
Sarah,
stalker
representative
Pamela
Stevenson,
and
that
pretty
well
does
it
very.
B
A
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I
want
to
remind
the
new
members
that
I
am
the
longest
serving
member
of
this
committee
as
well
as
a
former
chairman
and
if
I
get
Cranky
from
time
to
time,
take
notes
because
you'll
get
there
someday
too
I
have
a
special
guest
who
I'd
like
to
introduce
over
here
on
the
far
left.
Her
name
is
Sydney
zakich
she's,
going
to
be
a
junior
at
Scott,
County,
High
School.
C
D
Yeah
I'd
like
to
introduce
a
very
special
friend
of
mine,
co-run
mayor
Andrew,
Scott
Pike,
County
Kentucky,
one
of
my
oldest
friends.
His
father
was
also
a
great
friend
to
the
Republican
caucus
former
Supreme
Court
Justice
Will
T
Scott
he's
continuing
his
father's
Legacy
of
Public
Service,
both
as
a
mayor
and
on
the
Fire
Commission
I'm,
very
thankful
to
have
him
here
with
us
today.
A
F
H
G
G
A
A
So
this
is
the
the
information
is
going
to
be
shared
today
is,
is
we
know
that,
but
others
do
not
so
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
understand
how
the
Fire
Commission
Works,
how
they
function
throughout
the
state
and
so
we'll
allow
the
Fire
Commission
to
give
their
presentation
and
then
we'll
have
plenty
of
time
at
the
end
for
questions.
So,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
the
floor
is
yours:
do.
G
Good
morning
and
again,
thank
you
for
inviting
us
to
give
you
a
little
insight
on
the
Kentucky
Fire
Commission
and
what
our
responsibilities
are
for
the
firefighters
to
see
out
the
Commonwealth,
and
this
is
basically
an
overview
of
the
Kentucky
Fire
Commission.
The
Kentucky
Fire
Commission
is
Education
certification
funding
opportunities
for
Kentucky
fire
service.
G
The
far
Commission
office
is
open,
their
new
office
in
Bourbon
County
on
November
1st
2020.,
it's
located
on
Cleveland
Avenue
in
Bourbon
County.
We
purchased
this
property
approximately
three
years
ago,
when
our
new
director
came
on
board
with
Kentucky
Fire
Commission.
Our
new
director
is
is
Larry
Potter
and
he
extends
his
apologies
for
not
being
able
to
make
it.
Today.
G
This
was
to
give
an
incentive
for
training
for,
for
professional
firefighters,
volunteer
Aid
to
qualifying
fire
departments,
workers
comp
for
volunteer
firefighters
and
funds
for
the
purpose
of
constructing
training
centers.
It
was
funded
in
1982
from
insurance
surcharge
on
domestic
and
Foreign
Insurance,
which
provided
funding
to
the
professional
firefighters
Foundation
program
in
2000.
G
The
general
assembly
passed
legislation
to
many
of
the
Fire
Commission
and
state
Rescue
Training
under
kctcs,
and
we
have
been
there
since,
and
it's
been
a
great
work
in
relationship
between
the
Fire,
Commission
and
kctcs,
a
little
bit
of
history
about
the
forest
service.
We
have
50,
we
represent
51
paid
fire
departments,
617
volunteer
fire
departments,
100
combination,
fire
departments,
4114
career
firefighters
and
13.
600
volunteer,
firefighters
and
our
fire
departments
are
broken
up
into
different
categories.
We
there
we
have
a
chapter
95,
which
is
City
fire
departments.
G
Our
our
far
commission
board
is
made
up
of
14
appointment
members
by
the
governor
and
if
you
can
see
the
map,
they're
they're
spread
out
through
the
whole
Commonwealth,
and
we
have
a
doctor
mayor,
County
Judge,
representatives
from
fire
service,
the
State
Farm
Marshall
and
the
director
of
Homeland
Security,
and
we
had
three
unofficial
on
there.
That
represents
the
Kentucky,
firefighters,
Association,
Kentucky,
press,
Kentucky,
professional
firefighters
and
the
fire
chiefs,
and
then
we
have
an
ex-officio
from
kctcs.
G
Our
next
slide
far
commission
organizational
chart.
If
you
look
at
that,
we
have
the
executive
director
Potter,
which
is
at
the
top
and
then
we're
broken
up
into
different
categories.
We
had
a
deputy
director
and
we
have
Finance
director.
We
have
a
director
over
training,
we
have
a
director
over
operations
and
basically,
what
director
Potter
wanted
to
do
when
he
came
on
board
was
he
wanted?
G
The
Fire
Commission
Center
office
in
Paris
consists
of
23
offices.
We
have
approximately
60
full-time
employees
and
450
part-time
instructors
and
maintenance
Personnel
throughout
the
state.
As
you
see
through
this,
as
we
go
through
the
slides
and
stuff
you'll
see
that
we're
located
throughout
the
whole
Commonwealth
and
all
of
our
instructors
are
located
throughout
the
Commonwealth,
also
our
our
property
that
the
State
Farm
Rescue
Training,
owns
or
leases
which
we're
trying
to
get
out
of
all
the
leases
now
and
we're
slowly
purchasing
property.
G
G
We
own
that
piece
of
property
and
that
also
houses,
one
of
our
CPAP
testing
district
7
and
Morehead.
We
own
that
property,
District
11
in
Paintsville,
that's
located
inside
a
firehouse
right
now
and
basically
all
he
has
is
an
office
for
him
and
his
assistant.
So
at
this
time
we
are,
we've
been
looking
for
property
up
in
that
area,
so
we
can
put
him
into
house
him
into
a
better
office.
G
So
what
we
try
to
do
is
house
them
into
an
office
where
we
can
have
classrooms
where
they
can
put
on
classrooms
for
the
firefighters
in
that
area,
or
we
can
also
do
it.
A
small
fires
go
in
that
area,
so
we're
we've
been
looking
for
property
in
that
area
for
the
last
probably
a
couple
of
years
now
to
try
to
get
him
out
of
that
Firehouse
that
he's
located
in
in
district
12
in
Hazard.
We
also
lease
that
property.
It's
just
it's
hard
to
find
properties,
especially
in
in
areas
up
in
Eastern
Kentucky.
G
That
will
give
us
enough
space
to
do
what
we
want
to
do
as
far
as
training
and
stuff
in
District
13
in
London.
We
own
that
property
district
14
is
Somerset,
we
own
that
property
and
district
15
in
Paris
they're
located
inside
our
systems
office
in
Paris
and
our
system
office
in
Paris
other
than
the
the
23
offices.
Like
I
said
we
have
the
district
15
and
we
also
had
another
candidate
physical
ability,
testing
site.
G
So
we've
got
three
areas
that
are
stationaries,
that
firefighters
can
come
in
and
do
their
testing
for
recruit,
firefighters
to
be
hired
on
a
paid,
Fire
Department,
and
then
we
own
the
fire
academy
of
Kentucky,
which
is
located
in
Greenville
Kentucky
and
I'll,
be
going
over
some
more
information
on
that
one.
As
we
go
through
our
presentation.
G
If
our
Commission
State
rise,
Fire,
Rescue,
Training
operational
budgets
for
the
year,
53
million
and
88
000
These
funds
come
from
insurance
surcharge
of
tax
rate
of
1.8
percent
in
a
state
general
fund
dollars,
and
when
we
talk
about
that,
is
that
about
51
million
dollars?
It
comes
out
of
the
insurance
surcharge
about
1.8
million.
G
It
comes
from
general
fund
dollars
and
basically,
what
the
1.8
million
dollar
general
fund
dollars
is.
It
provides
the
funding
that
that
gives
us
the
ability
to
go
out
and
give
training
to
the
volunteer
firefighters.
So
by
KRS
we're
required
to
go
out
and
train
each
individual
fire
department.
We
give
them
20
hours,
training
at
no
cost
to
them,
and
that
comes
out
of
that
1.8
million
dollars.
G
M
G
If
you
go
to
programs,
the
Fire,
Commission
programs
and,
like
I,
said
the
state
aid,
the
state
aid
is
for
volunteer
fire
departments
and
each
qualifying
fire
department
receives
eleven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
from
us,
which
comes
out
there
at
the
insurance
surcharge
money
that
I
was
speaking
about
early
and
to
to
receive
that
state
aid.
Fifty
percent
of
the
firefighters
have
to
have
their
20
hours,
training,
they
have
to
be
certified
and
they
have
to
have
20
hours.
G
Training
within
that
year,
to
receive
the
state
aid
and
most
volunteer
fire
departments
really
depend
on
the
state
aid
money,
because
that's
basically
a
lot.
It's
the
only
thing
that
they
get
so
a
lot
of
them
really
struggle
out
there
trying
to
make
get
funds
to
to
keep
their
fire
departments
open
and
try
to
survive
out
there
and
when
they
need
a
new
equipment,
new
fire
truck
new
apparatus,
new
fire
gear.
You
know
any
any
tools,
anything
like
that,
so
they
really.
They
really
depend
on
the
fire
commission.
G
For
this
funding
the
junior
firefighter
program,
we
have
a
junior
firefighter
program,
you
have
to
register
Through
the
Fire
Commission
and
the
fire
departments
basically
have
their
own
Junior
firefighter
program,
and
this
is
a
way
to
for
retention,
recruitment
for
fire
departments,
because
now,
in
these
times
it's
really
hard
to
maintain
firefighters
to
come
and
volunteer
their
time
to
be
a
volunteer
firefighters.
So
we've
got
a
junior
firefighter
program,
it's
doing
real
well
and
we
I
think
we
have
about
60
fire
departments
that
are
involved
in
the
program,
the
health
and
wellness
program.
G
H
G
As
treadmills
ellipticals
stuff,
like
that,
to
keep
your
heart
rate
up
and
and
to
reduce
the
cause
of
heart
attacks,
it
also
we
purchase
fire
gear
with
it,
and
and
we
do
our
cpat
our
candidate
physical
ability,
testing.
It
comes
down
to
Health
and
Wellness
hepatitis,
A
and
B
were
required
by
law
to
give
all
new
firefighters,
a
hepatitis,
A
and
B
inoculations
the
incentive
and
pension
which
I
was
talking
about
earlier.
It
is
a
training
incentive
for
career
firefighters.
They
receive
forty
three
hundred
dollars
a
year.
G
They
have
to
get
400
400
hours
within
their
first
year
to
become
a
certified
firefighter,
and
then
they
have
to
have
100
hours
annually
to
receive
that
money
and
we
also
pay
their
pension
costs.
For
that.
For
that
individual
also
I
landed
line
of
duty
death
benefits.
We
pay
the
line
of
duty
death
benefits
for
all
firefighters
who
are
in
in
the
line
of
duty
death,
and
now
we
have
covid-19,
which
is
part
of
the
line
of
duty
death.
At
one
time
when
I
first
got
on
the
fire
department.
G
I
was
on
the
commission,
the
Fire
Commission,
our
firefighters,
in
the
state
of
Kentucky.
We
had
nine
heart
attack
deaths
in
one
year,
so
we
were
one
of
the
highest
rates,
and
so
our
line
of
duty
death
benefits
I
mean
it
is
State
money,
and
so
you
know
it's
a
benefit
for
the
families
when
this
firefighter
passes
away,
because
he
could
be
the
only
person
that
brings
in
any
any
funds
for
them
to
survive
on
low
interest
loans.
G
We
give
low
interest
loans
to
vote,
to
volunteer
for
our
departments
and
our
low
interest
loans.
They
get
it.
They
can
have
a
three
percent
loan
for
125
thousand
dollars.
They
pay
it
back
in
a
15-year
period,
but
really
they
don't
it
don't
cost
the
volunteer
fire
department
any
money
at
all.
They
pay
for
that
low
interest
loan
out
of
their
state
aid.
So
if
they
get
a
state
eight
check
and
they
get
a
loan
from
us,
we
basically
take
that
state
aid
check
and
pay
that
loan.
G
So
it
really
is
no
cost
to
the
volunteer
fire
department
other
than
the
state,
a
check
that
they
were
receiving
from
us,
and
it
helps
when
it
comes
to
buying
fire
gear
breeding
apparatus
tools
and
some
even
to
buy
a
used
psaparatus
because
they
can't
afford
apparatus.
Now
a
new
apparatus
is
five
and
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
You
know
some
are
a
million
dollars
and
if
you
look
at
the
aerial
ladders
and
stuff,
some
are
up
to
two
million
dollars.
So
it's
really
expensive
to
operate
a
fire
department
s.
G
It's
a
national
fire
incident,
reporting
system
that
we
do
that
fire
departments
have
to
participate
in
if
they
want
that
extra
five
hundred
dollars
the
PTSD
reimbursement
is.
It
was
a
program
that
was
started
three
years
ago
and
it
basically
reimburses
a
firefighter
for
any
out-of-pocket
expense
when
it
comes
to
PTSD,
which
in
the
last
few
years
I
mean
it's,
it's
really
gotten
more
more
participants
in
the
program
because
we're
seeing
it
more
and
more
than
we
ever
have
trained
facility
grants.
G
We
have
a
million,
we
get.
We
get
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
yearly
and
we
roll
it
over
and
then,
after
a
two-year
period.
During
the
two-year
fiscal
period,
we
have
a
million
dollars
to
spend
for
trained
facility
grants.
So
basically
what
we
do.
We
send
out
applications
and
if
our
department
sent
it
back
in
for
training
facility
grants
requesting
money
to
help
them
building
a
training
facility
or
books
to
go
in
their
library
or
something
to
do
with
training.
G
So
what
they'll
do
they'll
send
in
the
application,
and
then
we
have
a
committee
that
gets
together
and
they
basically
determine
where
this
money
needs
to
go
thermal
imaging
cameras.
We
give
them
out
yearly
and
last
year,
I
think
we
gave
out
I,
think
155
cameras
and
I'll
talk
about
that
later
training
records.
All
the
training
records
come
through
us.
A
G
We
make
sure
that
everybody
has
done
their
training
and
it's
recorded,
and
we
we
have
our
own
training
system,
that
we
have
a
individual
that
oversees
that
and
makes
sure
all
the
training
is
entered
correctly,
that
way
to
get
their
incentive
pay
and
their
state
aid
workers
compensation.
We
pay
the
workers
compensation
for
all
volunteer
firefighters.
G
G
That's
where
any
anyone
as
it
is
applying
for
a
full-time
career
firefighter
job
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky
must
must
complete
a
cpat
physical
ability
testing
to
be
hard
and
that's
prior
to
a
higher
date,
and
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
that
the
CPAP
was
brought
on
board
was
because
of
all
the
heart
attacks
and
stuff
that
we
were
having
prior
to,
that
is
that
individuals
were
being
hired
and
a
lot
of
them
really
couldn't
couldn't
do
the
job.
So
basically,
what
this
does
it's
it?
G
It
has
eight
evolutions
and
I'll
I'll
be
talking
about
that
further.
In
our
program
to
make
sure
an
individual
can
at
least
do
the
basic
stuff
to
be
a
firefighter
in
the
Commonwealth,
the
grants
thermal
engine
program
2013
the
current
average
155
units
per
year
for
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
11
years.
G
We
have
purchased
1705
units
for
five
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
other
grants
that
we
have
given
out
just
in
the
last
few
years
in
fiscal
year,
21
personal
protective
gear,
157
fire
departments
over
a
million
dollars,
Firebase
DMS
went
to
21
fire
departments
and
that's
basically
where
EMS
is
based.
Within
the
fire
service,
we
gave
out
315
000
fire
prevention.
G
What
we
did
we
had
a
fire
prevention
grants
that
went
out
to
any
fire
department
that
wanted
to
get
into
the
schools
and
teach
the
kids
about
fire
prevention.
So
we
gave
them
money
to
buy
coloring
books,
helmets,
any
kind
of
educational
material
that
they
could
get
out
and
do
fire
prevention
for
106
thousand
dollars.
G
G
Now
it
it
probably
to
complete,
set
an
individual
for
the
equipment-
everything
it's
probably
close
to
two
thousand
dollars
to
put
them
in
gear
and
stuff.
So
in
2022
we
did
255
fire
departments
for
over
two
million
dollars,
two
million
three
hundred
and
ninety
one
thousand
two
hundred
ninety
two
dollars:
Firebase
CMS
for
31
fire
departments.
We
did
three
hundred
forty
eight
thousand
for
a
total
of
two
million
seven
hundred
forty
thousand
one
hundred
fifty
two
dollars
in
fiscal
year.
G
23
we
had
to
change
what
we
did
because
the
manufacturers
they
were
running
so
far
behind
in
personal
protective
equipment
that
the
fire
departments
weren't
receiving
if
they
were
putting
on
anywhere
from
12
months
to
24
months
up
to
36
months
to
even
receive
their
fire
gear.
That's
how
backlog
day
was
due
to
due
to
covert.
So
we
had
to
change
because
the
way
it
works
with
the
park,
if
you,
if
you've,
got
an
application
out
there
and
you've
received
a
grant
and
you
haven't
fulfilled
the
grant.
Yet
you
haven't
received
all
your
equipment.
G
You
can't
reapply
for
another
Grant,
so
we
didn't
want
to
punish
any
of
the
fire
departments
for
not
being
able
to
get
their
equipment
in.
So
we
went
ahead
and
changed
it
and
started
giving
out
something
different
that
we
thought
the
fire
departments
could
use
in
fiscal
year.
23
we
did
the
battery
powered
Combi
tools,
that
was
for
a
vehicle
extraction
to
help
on
vehicle
wrecks.
We
did
243
fire
departments
for
2
million
eight
hundred
and
eighty
three
thousand.
We
did
the
four
gas
monitors
for
343
fire
departments
for
304
thousand.
G
G
Total
grants
that
we've
given
out
to
far
departments
since
2013
is
14
million
52
287
dollars,
total
grants
for
training
facilities,
which
I
talked
about
earlier
since
1994
or
84.
We
have
given
out
15
million
dollars
in
training
facility
grants
so
for
a
total
grants
that,
basically,
the
Fire
Commission
is
given
out
to
four
departments
across
the
Commonwealth,
has
been
over
29
million
dollars
and
have
went
back
to
the
fire
departments
throughout
the
Commonwealth.
G
The
candid
physical
ability
test,
the
CPAP,
the
total
test
that
we
have
given
and,
like
I
said
it
goes
to
anyone
as
interested
in
being
a
full-time
career.
Firefighter
we've
given
out
1157
tests,
740
cards
cards
were
issued
with
a
64
percent
pass
rate,
which
is
really
pretty
good
and
the
way
the
candid
physical
ability
test
works
is
that
you
can
take
a
test
here
and
pass
it
and
get
your
card.
G
And
if
you
can't
get
hired
here,
you
can
go
to
anywhere
in
the
United
States
and
Canada
and
get
hard
because
you
have
a
CPAC
card
and
it's
the
same
way
that
we
honor
cards
from
all
across
the
United
States
any
far.
Anyone
that
has
a
CPAC
card
that
is
not
over
a
year
old.
They
they
can
come
to
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky
and
be
hard
as
a
firefighter.
It's
a
nationwide
testing.
G
You
can
go
anywhere
and
the
test
is
all
laid
out.
The
same.
It's
been,
it's
been
testing
in
court
by
EEOC.
Everything
operates
the
same
and
it's
through
the
international
Associated
Association
of
firefighters,
and
if
you
look
the
candle
candidate,
physical
ability
test,
the
cpat,
if
you
looked
at
different
Evolutions
that
the
individuals
have
to
take
to
to
pass
this
test
and,
like
I
said,
there's
eight
different
Evolutions
from
from
the
stair
climb
to
the
to
the
dummy
pool
to
raise
a
ladder
to
pull
in
the
hose.
G
G
We
take
the
training
right
to
your
door,
so
what
the
fire
department
has
to
do.
They
basically
contact
the
training
coordinator
within
their
area
and
set
up
their
training
for
this
fiscal
year
and,
like
I,
said
we'll,
we
will
take
the
training
right
to
you.
So
if
you
want
a
car
prop
and
out
and
during
our
presentation,
you'll
see
some
of
the
props
and
stuff
that
we
have.
G
If
you
need
a
car
prop,
if
you
need
the
the
portable
Tower,
if
you
need
the
burned
trailer,
I
mean
we
take
this
training
right
to
your
fire
department,
so
basically
we're
there
to
actually
help
the
fire
departments
where
they
really
don't
have
to
leave
their
area.
In
case
something
arises
that
they
have
to
go
to
State
Fire,
Rescue,
Training,
we're
divided
into
two
regions,
a
region,
one
region,
two
across
the
state.
We
all
have
training
specialists,
we
and
we
have
an
accredited
certification
program
in
region.
G
Two
we
have
trained
Specialists
there
and
then
at
the
systems
office
we
had
the
curriculum
and
degree
program
and
Emergency
Medical,
Service
education.
And
basically,
when
director
Parker
came
on
board,
he
said
you
know:
we've
got
to
get
better
control
of
our
span
of
control.
He
said
we
just
got
too
many
people
and
with
one
person
overseeing
them,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
gets
the
services
that
they
need
and
that
we
provide.
So
basically
what
we
did
is
went
to
two
different
regions.
G
G
There
are
props
and
all
of
our
trailers
either
has
a
confined
space,
rope,
rescue
the
flashover,
trailer,
the
burn
trailer,
and
there
will
be
pictures
of
our
props.
On
back
in
this
presentation,
we
had
32
pickup
trucks,
which
basically
pulls
all
these
trailers
and
they
travel
all
around
the
Commonwealth
I
mean
there
could
be
a
fire
department
that
in
Pikeville
that
needs
to
burn
a
trailer,
and
we
only
have
I
think
three
burn
Traders,
so
this
Fern
trailer
could
be
in
Calhoun
Kentucky
and
they
need
it
for
training
in
Pikeville.
G
Then
we
had
to
have
one
of
these
trailers
that
will
pull
that
that
burn
trailer
all
the
way
to
Pikeville
to
for
training.
So
so,
if
you're
in
just
one
area
as
a
part-time
instructor,
you
could
travel
the
whole
Commonwealth
as
far
as
taking
props
and
stuff
and
training
for
different
areas
of
the
Commonwealth.
G
If
they're
not
pulling
a
piece
of
apparatus,
a
trailer
with
them,
if
they're
not
doing
the
flashover
or
the
the
burn,
trailer
or
pulling
a
trailer,
a
lot
of
our
instructors
will
drive
the
Camrys,
because
it's
a
lot
cheaper
on
fuel
costs
to
go
out
and
just
do
a
classroom
class
at
a
fire
department
and,
like
I
said
we
take,
we
take
the
training
to
you,
you
don't
have
to
come
to
us.
All.
You
have
to
do
is
request
it
and
we
take
it
to
you.
G
We
have
13
digester
angles
and
four
and
four
explorers.
We
have
seven
Road
tractors,
which
pulls
our
big,
our
big
props.
We
have
six
Pumpers,
which
you
would
imagine
Fire
Commission
to
do
any
kind
of
fire
training
we
have
to
have
Pumpers.
We
have
three
vans
that
that
really
is
standard.
Our
training
academy
in
Greenville
Kentucky
that
basically
move
our
recruits
from
the
training
academy
over
to
the
window
forward.
G
We
have
an
aerial
ladder
and
we
have
a
tanker,
and
all
these
are
basically
needs
that
we
have
to
have
to
provide
training
throughout
the
Commonwealth
for
firefighters.
So
we
have
a
big
operation.
We
have
a
big
Fleet
and
it's
all
because
it's
the
service
that
we
provide
to
the
fire
service
and
the
Education
and
Training
that
that
we're
required
to
give
them
State
Farm
Rescue
Training,
which
does
really
the
major
part
of
the
training
for
fiscal
year.
22
class
student
counts.
G
We
trained
86
544
students
throughout
the
Commonwealth
we
put
on
six
thousand
five
hundred
twenty
classes,
five
thousand
four
hundred
twenty
seven
are
fire
related
classes,
372
or
EMS
related
classes
and
671
were
for
industry.
We
also
go
out
and
train
industry.
They
can.
They
can
call
and
ask
us
to
come
out
and
and
do
do,
the
the
far
simulator
or
the
confined
space
or
the
Hazmat.
We
we
go
out
and
teach
industry
also.
G
G
225
fire
departments
received
at
least
21
hours
of
sfrt
training
delivered
as
a
fiscal
year
2023
through
May
20
May,
31st
2023.
We
have
taught
classes
for
over
700
703
fire
departments,
which
is
92
percent,
so
we're
getting
into
the
fire
departments,
we're
we're
getting
our
training
out
there
and
basically
that's
that
it
is
our
job.
That
is
what
we
were
supposed
to
be
doing,
is
training
and
education
for
the
for
the
forest
service,
as
I
was
talking
about
the
State
Fire
Rescue
Training
props.
G
G
So
if
a
fire
department
wants
training
through
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky,
they
they
notify
one
of
our
instructors
and
we
set
up
their
training
and
we
basically
take
it
to
their
door
and
give
them
their
21
required
hours
to
through
the
state
the
fire
academy
of
Kentucky
it
is.
It
is
something
new
we
that
was
one
of
our
buildings.
That
I
showed
you
in
Greenville
to
begin
with,
and
it's
located
on
the
window.
Ford
military
base
down
there
and
we
we
have
about
60
Acres
that
sits
on
that
base.
G
G
The
far
Academy
of
Kentucky
will
continue
to
expand
throughout
the
nearly
60
acre
facility.
Over
the
next
decade,
a
10-year
master
plan
has
been
developed
and
it's
been
executed
as
planned.
The
new
administration
building
is
well
underway
and
underrooved.
This
sixteen
thousand
square
foot
facility
will
be
completed
in
mid-December,
2023
and
house.
Current
staff
and
Equipment
preparing
us
to
expand
the
number
of
available
recruits
beginning
in
2024.,
a
five-story
burn
tire
is
in
the
works
and
in
the
Navy
future.
G
The
far
Academy
of
Kentucky
is
13
weeks,
Monday
through
Friday.
They
come
in
at
noon
on
Monday.
They
they
go
home
at
three
on
Friday,
it's
a
residential
program,
just
like
the
police
have
in
in
Richmond.
They
have
physical
training,
classroom
and
Hands-On
training.
It's
a
basic
two
which
is
300
certification
for
firefighter
Senator,
grumpy,
career
firefighters
and
it's
accredited.
It's
an
accredited
certification.
Also,
our
first
class.
We
had
seven
departments
and
we
had
26
students,
all
26
students,
graduated
in
class
number
two.
We
had
10
departments
and
21
students.
G
We
had
30
that
were
supposed
to
come
in,
but
we
had
a
couple
of
fire
departments
that
couldn't
get
their
hiring
process
completed
for
us
to
put
them
into
that
class.
So
we
had
10
departments
with
21
students,
all
21
students
completed
it
and
graduated
class
3,
which
is
coming
in
August
of
this
year.
G
We
have
15
departments
and
we
have
38
students,
so
you
can
see
it's
slowly,
increasing
where
fart
apartments
and
the
cities
are
are
seeing
now
that
they
can,
they
can
send
their
students
or
their
recruits
to
us
instead
of
having
overtime
costs
for
the
far
departments
to
do
their
training.
So
basically
we
do
their
training.
The
only
thing
that
we
require
is
that
they
stay
there
and
they
participate
in
all
the
functions
that
we
do
daily
when
it
comes
to
the
far
Rescue
Training
and
like
I,
said
it's,
it's
it's
a
new
Academy.
G
We
just
started
over
over
the
last
three
years
and
we're
growing
I
mean
it's
it's
something
that
director
Potter,
that
was
one
of
his
invisions
was
to
to
have
a
recruit
Academy
like
the
like
the
police
department.
Does
he
said
because
we
we
want
firefighters
that
are
all
trained
the
same
where,
if
I,
if
I
come
out
at
Academy,
I'm
300
are
certified
as
a
career,
firefighter
I'll
be
EMT,
certif
certified,
so,
basically,
I
can
start
on
a
fire
department
anywhere
I'll
be
ready
to
go
when
I
when
I
come
out
at
Academy.
G
And
lastly,
we
just
received
a
letter
from
acting
president
Larry,
Ferguson
and
I.
Will
let
Pam
speak
about
that?
We
have
been
notified
that
we
be.
We
will
be
recognized
as
the
17th
College
of
the
Kentucky
Fire
Commission,
which
is
which
is
huge
to
us,
because
now,
basically,
due
to
our
education,
our
training,
our
ifsac
program.
Our
degree
degree
program
in
our
Paramedic
program
provides
this
training
all
under
the
umbrella
of
kctcs,
which
is
the
education
arm.
G
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
having
us
today.
I,
don't
think.
We've
had
a
chance
to
testify
together
and
I
know,
there's
often
questions
about
our
relationship
with
kctcs
and
the
Fire
Commission.
So
thank
you
for
having
us.
Bruce
spoke
about
the
history
of
the
Fire
Commission
being
under
the
umbrella
of
kctcs
since
2000.
So
I
will
be
brief,
but
we
did
want
to
come
and
say
that
you
know
the
Fire
Commission
is
meant
to
train
career
and
volunteer
firefighters
at
its
core
and
at
kctcs's
core
we're
meant
to
train
and
certify
Kentucky's
Workforce.
L
So
we
can
see
how
it
was
a
logical
fit
for
State
lawmakers
to
put
us
together
in
2000..
With
that
said,
the
Fire,
Commission
and
kctcs
do
have
different
boards
responsible
for
their
governance.
Bruce
talked
about
the
governing
board
for
the
Fire
Commission.
We
of
course
have
a
14-member
governor
appointed
faculty
staff
student
board
that
is
responsible
for
kctcs
the
kctcs
system
office.
Our
hub
for
centralized
Services
is
in
Versailles.
They
mentioned
that
their
headquarters
is
in
Paris.
L
We
do,
however,
share
a
few
essential
functions.
The
Fire
Commission
relies
on
kctcs
general
counsel,
that
is
Pam
Duncan,
who
is
with
us
today
and
her
staff.
They
provide
support,
such
as
open
records
and
Personnel
issue
support
when
it
comes
to
legal
issues.
The
Fire
Commission
also
relies
on
kctcs
for
some
things
like
payroll,
I.T
and
some
HR
functions,
and
while
we
don't
have
a
figure
associated
with
this
kind
of
support
that
we
provide,
we
know
that
people
in
time
or
money,
so
there
is
some
drain
on
our
resources
being
associated
with
the
Fire
Commission.
L
Nonetheless,
we
feel
it's
important
to
state
that,
from
our
perspective,
there
have
been
significant
improvements
made
in
recent
years
under
the
direction
of
director
Larry
Potter.
They
are
working
very
hard
to
meet
the
need
for
firefighters
across
the
state
and
we're
proud
to
partner
with
them
and,
as
Bruce
just
mentioned,
we
are
currently
working
on
the
development
of
a
17th
College
concept
with
the
Fire
Commission.
L
With
all
of
this
said,
we
are
here
today
with
no
false
pretenses
about
where
kctcs
currently
stands
with
our
state
legislature.
We
know
with
the
passing
of
Senate
joint
resolution
98
last
session.
There
is
a
report
coming
this
fall
that
may
significantly
alter
our
system
in
one
way
or
another,
and
we
are
also
without
a
system
president
at
the
moment.
L
So,
in
short,
our
political
capital
is
a
little
low
and
what
we
want
to
make
clear
that,
as
kctcs
is
determined
to
be
efficient
and
effective
in
its
Mission,
we
are
determined
not
only
to
make
this
body
proud,
but
the
entire
Commonwealth
by
immediate
meeting
students
where
they
are
and
leading
them
into
the
workforce.
So
committee
members
we're
just
simply
here
to
say
today
that
we
are
neutral
about
the
future
of
the
Fire
Commission
remaining
with
kctcs.
Ultimately,
we
think
it's
the
general
assembly's
responsibility
to
determine
where
they
best
fit.
L
A
We're
good
Mr,
Roberts
and
staff.
It
was
a
very
good
presentation,
I
mean
I've,
been
here
seven
years
and
that
was
more
information
than
I've
had
in
seven
years
on
the
Fire
Commission.
It
was
very
good
laid
out
well,
and
it
explains
the
process
in
the
firefighter
World
in
Kentucky
and
I
enjoyed
it
thoroughly.
I've
got
a
couple
questions
that
we
have
a
couple
members
that
have
questions
as
well.
First
is
a
former
chair.
Meredith
representative
Meredith
has
a
question.
N
Thank
you,
chair,
males,
Bruce,
appreciate
you
all
being
here
today
and
your
presentation
on
all
these
issues.
I
especially
appreciate
the
work
that
you
all
have
all
been
doing
over
the
years,
especially
with
the
grant
loan
programs
for
for
volunteer
fire
departments
and
the
training
aspect
that
you
provide
as
well.
This
is
kind
of
a
two-part
question
regarded
regarding
the
academy,
so
I
think
it
is
a
very
Valiant
goal
to
have
an
academy
like
this
to
be
professionalized
and
standardized
across
the
state.
N
So
the
first
part
of
that
question
is
from
an
operational
cost
perspective
of
the
academy
and
how
that
works
regarding
the
the
insurance
premium
funds
that
you
all
receive
through
the
firefighters
Foundation
program
fund
that
operates
where,
as
those
funds
Get
Low,
obviously
that
insurance
premium
charge
can
be
certified
to
be
raised
by
the
Department
of
Revenue
without
legislative
action
and
historically
has
been
done.
That
way.
But
there
has
been
a
surplus
generally
where
that
has
not
had
to
happen
with
the
academy
coming
online.
N
H
H
The
second
one
is
it's
running
was
ran
pretty
close
to
that
as
well.
So
we're
estimating
it's
going
to
run
about
two
hundred
thousand
so
with
the
budget
sitting
at
700,
I
think
we're
going
to
be
pretty
pretty
set
with
there
and
as
long
as
the
classes
continue
and
as
they
have
been,
but
still
we're
in
the
early
stages.
But
the
pilot
went
really
well.
H
We
were
really
happy
with
how
things
went
so
as
of
right
now,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
sustained
within
that
funding,
we're
just
having
to
wait
and
see
as
things
progress
with
the
new
buildings
and
so
forth.
If
we're
able
to
expand
it,
if
we
expand
it
and
be
able
to
accommodate
more
candidates
and
more
recruits
than
than
in
the
cost
could
go
up,
but
as
of
right
now,
I
don't
see
that
being
in
an
issue.
Okay,.
N
And
in
the
second
part
of
that
question
is
just,
and
it's
really
more
of
a
comment
than
a
question.
I
know
there
has
been
with
the
with
the
beginning,
and
the
pilot
of
this.
There
has
been
a
little
bit
of
concern.
We've
had
some
offline
discussions
within
the
group
about
making
sure
that
the
career
path
training
is
still
there
and
available
for
those
guys
who
have
gone
through
training
in
their
individual
departments
and
are
now
trying
to
advance.
N
G
Yeah,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
make
sure
that
the
training
is
still
out
there
for
the
career,
firefighters
and
also
the
volunteers.
But
you
know,
like
you,
said
the
this
is
a
new
program
for
us
that
you
know
we
have
just
got
into
in
the
last
last
couple
years,
but
that
is
one
thing
that
we
will
guarantee
is
that
we
will
maintain
the
training
and
the
availability
for
the
career,
firefighters,
ra
staff
to
complete
their
training.
Yes,.
K
Thank
you
if
I
could
address
that
issue
as
well.
The
17th
College
concept
is
designed
to
try
and
assist
with
those
issues,
because
the
Fire
Commission
has
not
until
now
had
their
own
independent
human
resource
officer,
nor
have
they
had
an
independent,
Finance
director
Etc,
so
they
are
becoming
in
essence,
a
college
that
can
be
more
flexible
and
Nimble
in
hiring
and
filling
those
vacancies
that
will
help
with
the
Career
Training.
F
Yes,
I'm
not
sure
this
is
directly
pertains
to
what
you
do.
I
very
much
appreciate
the
education
today
on
what
the
Fire
Commission
does.
My
constituents
recently
discovered.
They
were
part
of
a
part
75
fire
district
and
through
some
decision-making
process
and
years
past,
the
fire
station
in
the
area
had
become
unstaffed.
No,
no
drug,
no
firemen,
but
there
was
still
an
ambulance
presence
and,
as
a
consequence,
the
iso
rating
dropped
to
a
10,
which
is
basically
zero.
F
Fire
protection
and
people
saw
their
insurance
premiums
going
from
two
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
six
thousand
dollars
a
year,
obviously
very
alarming.
To
give
the
constituents
we
did
manage
to
through
months
of
discussion
with
the
fire
district
managed
to
rectify
that
situation.
The
fire
district
will
be
re-staffed,
but
my
question
is
regarding
Statewide
policy.
What
is
the
best
way
to
communicate
with
the
public
if
there
is
a
change,
especially
a
downgrade
in
their
fire
protection?
F
G
So
they
would
have
some
input
on
what's
going
on
within
their
District,
but
that's
how
how
often
get
the
information
out
or,
if
you
just
if
you,
if
you've
got
a
website,
you
know
or
something
with
that
with
the
fire
departments
have
and
basically
you
put
it
out
there
where
you
know
the
residents
could
actually
look
at
it,
see.
What's
going
on.
J
Thanks
for
a
great
presentation,
I
appreciate
it
this
last
year,
I've
learned
more
about
fire
and
and
the
Departments
and
how
everything
works,
working
with
the
search
and
rescue
bill
with
representative
Hart,
and
that
leads
me
to
my
question
as
we
start
implementing
that
we
have
this
framework
in
place,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
some
budget
money
over
the
next
biennial
budget
to
start
funding.
Some
of
that
do
you
all
have
the
capabilities
to
train
in
that
you
know
more
of
a
specific
search
and
rescue.
J
G
Yes
and
matter
of
fact,
our
director
of
training,
Mark
Rutter,
has
reached
out
to
the
urban
search
and
rescue
team,
the
two
individuals
that
came
and
did
the
presentation
and
asked
them
that,
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
to
help
them
on
their
training,
you
know
anything
that
the
state
there's
a
state
Rescue
Training
can
do
to
assist
them
to
get
them
up
to
the
level
that
they
need
to.
Be
that,
yes,
we're
willing
to
help
them
out.
Yes,.
D
D
D
I
mean,
but
you
know,
I-
think
I
I
state
that
not
as
to
abilities,
but
as
to
merely
point
out
that
there
is
a
less
participation
amongst
folks
of
the
younger
ages.
You
know:
is
there
anything
that
that
you
think
might
assist
in
recruiting
more
people
into
the
volunteer,
firefighter
departments?
I
know
a
couple
sessions
ago,
I
I
filed
a
tax
credit
bill
that
you
know
would
only
be
applicable
if
they
got
certified
and
got
their
full
hours
and
everything
that
was
suggested
to
be
by
a
couple
of
the
Chiefs.
G
So,
basically,
you
know
we're
trying
to
get
out
into
the
different
schools
and
to
create
this,
these
Junior
firefighter
programs
and
and
go
to
job
fairs
and
stuff
and
and
and
recruit
these
young
individuals,
because
if
you
don't
get
them
when
they're
young,
you
know
they
have
no
desire
to
get
on
the
forest
service
and
I
agree
with
what
you
said:
the
fire
service
most
of
the
individuals.
If
you
see
you
know
they're
they're
getting
up
in
age,
you
know
and
I
mean
I've
been
around
it
for
a
long
time.
G
So
I
see
you
know
the
individuals
that
you
know,
even
when
I
came
on,
I
mean
I
still
see
a
lot
of
them
around,
which
I
know
I'm
too
old
to
be
firefighting
anymore.
So
you
know
it
is
a
a
a
job
for
a
young
individual,
both
male
and
female,
and
so
we
try
to
get
recruitment
programs
out
there.
We've
got
our
website
and
and
we're
starting
to
look
at.
You
know
possibly
going
to
these
job
fairs
and
stuff
to
to
basically
try
to
recruit
firef.
G
M
D
A
D
They
actually,
when
we
had
a
unfortunately
had
a
police
officer
killed
a
few
years
back.
The
volunteer
fire
department
on
Hurricane
stepped
up
with
their
drone
with
the
infrared
sensor
and
actually
found
the
guy,
so
I
mean
they.
They
work
in
conjunction
with
law
enforcement
as
well
and
and
I
think
that
it's
very
valuable
Community
tool
to
have
them,
and
so
anything
that
you
think
we
can
do
to
to
as
a
general
assembly
to
help
increase
participation.
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
with
you.
L
Senator
to
follow
that
up,
there
is
the
work
ready,
Kentucky
scholarship,
that
this
body
provides
funding
for,
and
that
is
currently
a
60
hours
for
any
kctcs
associate's
degree
and
currently
right
now.
It's
only
for
the
top
five
sector
set
by
K
Webb,
which
are
those
high
demand,
High
pay
areas,
but
we
have
had
some
preliminary
discussions
with
some
lawmakers
about
possibly
expanding
that
into
these
high
need
areas,
such
as
a
firefighting
and
to
address
the
shortage
and
recruiting
needs.
B
G
Usually,
most
of
the
and
there's
a
lot
of
individuals
that
have
cards
out
there
that
they're
waiting
to
get
hard-
and
you
know
it's
far
departments-
you
know
they
all
they'll
hire
one
or
two.
You
know
maybe
three
they
won't
hire
a
whole
lot,
but
if
a
lot
of
them,
if
they
don't,
if
they
can't
find
a
career
here,
they
will
go
to
other
states.
G
But
there
is
I
mean
a
majority
that
we
see
that
come
in
are
are
really
applicants
for
fire
departments
already
I
mean
if
you
look
like
Louisville
and
Lexington,
they
are
40
50
at
a
time
in
their
recruit
class
and
now
there's
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
fire
department
in
Jefferson,
County,
Middletown,
Anchorage
who's.
Now,
probably
one
of
the
third
largest
fire
departments
in
the
state,
and
they
do
you
know
they
hire.
You
know
25
and
30
at
a
time.
G
You
know
throughout
the
state
because
you
know
just
like
in
a
community
where
you're
from
I
mean
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
small
community,
but
you
know
if
they're
willing
to
move
from
these
different
areas
to
go
there
and
take
a
job.
Yes,
I
mean
the
jobs
are
out
there.
It's
just
that.
Will
an
individual
travel
to
or
move
to
take
that
opportunity.
B
Okay,
one
more
follow-up
question
What:
what
about
concerning
the
the
the
more
in-depth
training
and
everything
we're
providing
free
of
charge,
the
retainment
of
those
that
go
into
say
the
career
path.
I
know
we
it's
hard
to
control
the
volunteers,
but
the
career
path,
trainees
that
we
put
the
money
into
I,
I'm
thinking
to
just
return
on
investment.
How?
What
do
you
have?
Any
kind
of
you
know
retainment
three,
five,
ten
years
down
the
road?
Are
we
seeing
them
stay
with
us
or.
G
You
see
a
lot
of
them
stay
with
it,
and
you
know
nowadays,
since
you
know,
since
the
the
pension
isn't
there
like
it
used
to
be
I
mean,
and
now
it's
a
kind
of
a
hybrid
plan,
and
you
know
you
see
them,
you
know
they
might
stay
for
five
years
or
ten
years
and
they
say
you
know,
I
can
move
somewhere
else
and
you
know
and
make
more
money.
You
know
a
lot
of
it.
You
know
has
to
do
with
with
the
money
they're
being
paid.
G
G
O
G
That
that
really
it
it
really
varies,
because
if
you're
just
being
hard
as
a
firefighter
I
mean
it
can
go
from
twenty
five
thousand,
sixty
thousand
depends
on
the
locality
of
where
you're
being
hired.
If
you're
a
firefighter
paramedic
firefighter
EMT,
it
could
start
out
at
seventy
five.
Eighty
thousand
dollars
you
know,
so
you
know
it
really
fluctuates
a
a
whole
lot.
You
know,
so
it
just
depends
on
your
certifications,
your
background
and
the
locality
of
where
you're
going
to
work
I
mean
some
places
in
Eastern.
G
G
Oh
really
I,
don't
I
I,
don't
know,
I
can
I
can
try
to
find
out,
I
mean
and
that
basically
that's
up
to
the
fire
departments
because
they
do
the
hiring
and
stuff.
So
we
really
don't
do
the
hiring,
but
we
do
have
quite
a
few
females
that
come
into
our
CPAP
testing
and
we
have
a
good
rate
as
far
as
the
female
Passage.
G
O
A
G
G
A
G
I
I
I
I
A
C
P
G
G
There's
the
way
it
works
is
that
to
be
a
certified
volunteer
firefighter
is
that
you
have
to
have
115
hours
within
a
two-year
period,
and
then
you
have
to
maintain
20
hours
training
every
year
after
that
so
A
lot
of
times
when
they
become
Junior
Firefighters
before
they
reach
the
age
of
18.
They've
already
got
their
hours
to
be
a
certified
firefighter
and
to
be
a
career
firefighter.
You
have
to
have
300
hours
within
your
first
year
and
then
you
have
to
do
a
100
hours
training
there
afterwards.
G
G
M
In
Muhlenberg
County,
we
do
it
actually
I
hired
four
as
a
fire
chief
of
20
for
20
years,
I
hired
four
out
of
high
school
that
came
through
the
program,
hired
them
as
soon
as
they
graduated.
So
they
were
certified
and
ready
to
go.
When
they
came
out
of
high
school.
All
they
had
to
do
is
go
get
their
cpat
and
they
was
ready
to
go.
A
You're
welcome
just
folks.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation
and
your
time
here
today.
We
appreciate
all
the
information
that
was
given
out
today.
Just
a
couple
of
housekeeping
items
for
our
members
just
be
reminded
that
you
did
get
her
email
about
packets
for
the
day
of
the
committee.
If
you've
responded
back
you're
on
the
list,
if
you
want
to
have
your
materials
for
you,
when
you
show
up
at
the
committee,
please
email,
Mark
back
and
we'll
have
those
for
you.