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A
That
any
meeting
materials
received
prior
to
the
deadline
are
posted
online
and
are
available
to
you
for
downloading
and
I'd
also
remind
members
you
need
to
indicate
when
we
call
the
role
if
you're
present
in
person
remote
from
the
district
or
remote
from
the
office
or
remote.
Otherwise,
at
this
time
secretary,
please
call
the
roll
senator.
C
C
The
most
critical
thing
I
need
to
express
today
about
this
issue
is
that
the
firing
range
is
such
a
critical
component
of
basic
training.
If
it
crumbles,
training
must
stop.
There
is
no
feasible
backup
plan.
Safe,
operating,
safe,
operate.
Operation
of
this
facility
is
essential
to
ensuring
everyone
of
your
communities
is
able
to
receive
the
training
they
need
to
keep
officers
on
your
roads.
C
The
training
space
is
an
integral
part
of
dlc
jt's
skills
training
and
provides
officers.
Opportunities
for
real-life
scenarios.
Unequal
across
the
commonwealth
officers
have
the
opportunity
to
learn
and
practice
the
and
interpersonal
skills.
Critical,
making
critical
decision-making
under
stress,
alternate
response
to
potential
deadly
force,
encounters
team
tactics
and
less
lethal
response,
skills
that
are
being
demanded
by
our
communities
for
interactions
with
law
with
law
enforcement.
C
The
most
important
things
we
train
with
is
our
ability
to
connect
with
another
human
being
and
connect
with
the
de-escalated
situation,
to
bring
a
situation
down
calmly
to
some
resolving
the
hopes.
The
very
powerful
hopes
that
we
never
have
to
use
those
firearms.
This
facility
is
a
central
part
of
that
de-escalation
training.
C
C
C
C
A
Kevin
thank
you
for
the
information,
let's,
let's
focus
strictly
on
the
health
of
the
fund
and
in
anticipation
of
the
upcoming
budget.
What
what
are
you
all
assuming
or
what
are
you
all?
What
are
you
all
planning
amounts
that
will
be
coming
out
of
the
fund
and,
and
I'm
sure
that
you
all
have
ran
numbers.
I
know
with
decreased
numbers
of
officers
that
that
affects
the
fund
with
the
inc
the
proposed
increase
in
the
stipend.
A
What
will
be
the
net
impact
of
that
with
the
assuming
that
there
are
funds
out
of
cleft
for
for
the
firing
range?
A
Where,
where
will
we
be
at
the
end
of
the
budget,
with
the
health
of
the
fund
itself,.
C
Very
good
question,
and
and
I'll
start
with
the
impact
of,
if
I
can
have
a
moment,
to
turn
to
the
page
I'll
start
with
the
impact
to
are
for
the
stipend
increase
of
the
600
and
and
I'll
say
before
I
get
into
that.
C
Since
2009
I
mentioned
you
know,
I
became
the
state
or
the
agency's
budget
director,
I
like
to
study
numbers
and
I've
studied
these
numbers
and
reviewed
them
for
for
a
number
of
years
now,
and-
and
I
say
that
to
before
I
get
into
some
of
these
other
numbers
just
to
just
to
give
it
a
little
bit
of
validity.
C
These
are
something
I've
been
looking
at
for
a
long
time,
something
that
I
like.
Studying
the
the
six
hundred
dollar
stopping
increase
comes
at
a
price
tag
of
around
seven
million
four
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
again.
That's
7
million
475
200,
and
that
also
includes
the
associated
french
benefits,
which
we
also
calculated.
C
If
we
go
on
to
the
firing
range
just
to
jump
to
it
quickly.
While
I've
got
the
numbers
here
in
front
of
me,
the
net
service
for
the
new
firing
range
we're
estimating
at
an
amount
of
2
million
57
000.
C
The
operating
cost
associated
with
that,
but
just
a
moment,
I'll
grab
that
too,
because
that
would
begin
in
year,
two
of
the
biennium
provided
or
began
in
the
year
after
it's
constructed
and
we
begin
operating
the
building.
C
We
estimated
about
179
000
and
that's
that's
based
upon
our
best
guesstimate
on
what
it
would
cost
to
operate
the
building.
Now
that
does
not
include
ammunition
and
some
of
those
things.
The
filters,
as
I
understand
where
this
would
be
an
indoor
firing
range
rather
expensive
too.
So
that's
that's
our
best
guesstimate
based
upon
averages
per
square
foot
of
any
facility
that
we
analyze
those
numbers
as
well,
and
those
numbers
are
that's
about
for
that
where
that
puts
us
on
operating
costs.
C
Now,
as
far
as
health
of
the
fund,
you
know
I
alluded
to
the
and
pull
those
back
up
the
the
balance
of
the
cleft
fund
and
where
it's
at
and
and
if,
if
I
were
to
chart
it,
which
I
have
done,
you
know
we
can
see
a
gradual
increase
in
that
revenue
each
year
and
as
I
mentioned,
you
know,
four
to
five
percent
from
is
the
actual
increase
itself.
C
as
far
as
the
health
of
the
fund,
it's
very
healthy
and,
in
my
best
analysis,
and
that's
why
I
said
when
I
began
with
I've,
been
looking
this
and
studying
it
since
2009
and
my
best
analysis,
the
cleft
fund
can
easily
support
the
600
stipend
increase,
as
well
as
the
debt
service
and
the
related
operating
cost,
with
this
firing
range
without
any
issues.
C
I
think
I
mentioned
at
the
previous
presentation
and
when
I
started
in
2009
directly
in
this
in
this
position,
your
debt
service
was
a
lot
more
than
what
it
is
now,
of
course,
for
debt-free
now,
but
at
that
time
is
a
little
over
three
million
dollars
and
we
operated
at
that
time
operated
with
a
debt
service
payment,
three
million
dollars
without
any
issues
without
any
impact
to
the
cleft
fund.
And
again
I
don't
see
any
issues
at
all,
with
cleft
fund
being
able
to
support
these
two
endeavors.
A
And
from
from
my
memory
with
the
firing
range
you
all
are
replacing,
there
has
been
some
existing
debt
service
that
has
been
paid
off,
and
so
this
would
really
not
be
new
debt
service,
but
just
a
transferred
debt
service,
I
guess,
would
be
a
good
way
to
put
it.
That's.
C
A
Are
are
you
all
aware
of
any
other
requests
that
sometimes
come
with
the
governor's
budget
for
expenditures
out
of
the
cleft
fund?
I
know
we
bought
ksp
cruisers
out
of
it
a
few
years
ago.
Are
you
aware
of
governor
bashir?
Does
he
have
anything
in
his
budget
along
those
lines.
C
A
Okay,
we
have
a
few
other
questions.
Senator
schickel.
E
Thank
you.
I've
got
a
couple
questions.
One
is,
I
know
you
don't
train
every
law
enforcement
agency
in
the
state,
including
lmpd,
but
are
the
lmpd
officers
and
the
other
officers
that
are
not
trained
by
your
office.
They
receive
clep
funds.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
so
that's
correct!
Okay,
you
mentioned
governor
beshear
a
number
of
times.
I
want
to
agree
that
I'm
glad
that
he's
made
this
request.
It's
the
same
request
that
governor
bevin
made
a
few
times
with
respect
to
the
firing
range.
So
I
think
the
legislature
needs
to
do
it.
E
There
is
a
difference
now
than
there
has
been
before,
and
that
is
we
have
billions
in
federal
dollars
that
we
didn't
have
before.
I
think
we
need
to
not
saddle
the
clep
fund
with
constructing
the
firing
range
that
needs
to
come
out
of
other
federal
dollars.
I
think
we
should
try
to
get
the
clip
fund
back
to
what
it
was
originally
designed
to
do.
E
If
it
is
healthy
and
it
is,
then
we
need
to
increase
the
stipend
to
police
officers
rather
than
use
this
fund,
which
was
in
which
was
designed
to
go
to
police
officers
paychecks
to
keep
them
to
retain
them,
to
attract
them
and
retain
them,
and
rather
than
construct
a
new
firing
facility,
we
need
to
increase
the
the
amount
that
those
officers
get.
I
do
have
a
question
about
training.
I
don't
know
if
I'm
allowed
to
ask
it
okay,
so
my
question
about
training:
is
you
brought
up
school
resource
officers?
E
C
E
A
I
agree
with
you
about
the
use
of
the
funds
I'd.
We
really
have
to
be
careful
about
that.
We've
we've
been
headed
down
that
path
for
a
while,
where
we
keep
expanding
the
uses,
so
I
couldn't
agree
more
and
I
think
we
all
agree
that
the
firing
range
is
something
that
is
badly
needed
and
hopefully
we
do
make
that
happen.
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
senator
schickel.
I
don't
know
if
he
can
answer
your
question,
but
please
feel
free
to
ask.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
ask
a
question
or
two
about
training,
because
it's
something
that
interests
me
very
much,
commissioners
good
to
see
you,
I'm
a
graduate
of
your
school
class
number
67
a
long
long
time
ago.
D
I
am
receiving
a
lot
of
feedback
from
my
local
officials
about
police
training,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
believe
has
happened
is,
I
know,
from
being
involved
in
the
training
years
ago,
there's
kind
of
a
contest
among
states
to
who
can
have
the
best
training
and
we
a
lot
of
times
equate
length
of
time
with
quality
of
training.
So
over
the
years
we've
gone
to
from
10
weeks
to
20
weeks.
D
I
know
back
when
I
was
there.
We
wasted
a
lot
of
time
and
I've
since
sat
in
on
on
quite
a
bit
of
the
training,
and
it
just
seems
to
me
that
we
can.
The
20
weeks
is
too
long
for
the
basic
basic
academy
that
it
could
be
condensed
down.
I
don't
think
that
time
in
the
seat
in
the
in
the
classroom
necessarily
equates
to
quality
of
training.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
comment
on
that,
and
then
I
have
one
follow-up
after
that.
With
the
chairman's
permission.
A
Senator
schickel
wheat,
commissioner
jillick,
is
not
online
for
this
meeting.
My
understanding
is,
he
couldn't
make
it
and
I'm
not
sure
that
mr
raider
can
answer
these
training
related
questions
is.
Is
that
correct?
Mr
raider.
F
C
F
C
C
The
most
recent
estimate
that
we
received
was
28
million,
535
900
that
came
after-
and
I
may
have
alluded
to
this
last
time,
because
that
number
was
still
fairly
new.
I
think
I've
received
the
day
before
our
last
testimony
that,
of
course,
call
building
calls
to
have
skyrocketed
and
we
worked
with
eop
and
architectural
firm
to
obtain
that
number
and
that
that
is
the
number
that
we
built
into
the
budget
for
construction
of
this
new
indoor
range.
It's
28
million,
535
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars.
F
So,
assuming
if
inflation
continues,
the
way
it
is
it'll
be
about
at
least
30
million,
probably
by
the
time
the
bonds
are
let
so,
if,
if
we
do
it
by
bonds,
but
if
we
pay
by
cash
out
of
federal
funds,
we'd
probably
be
saving
10
million
dollars
in
interest
payments.
As
you
said,
it's
2
million
a
year
for
20
years
of
bonds,
but
it
would
be
approximately
38
million
if
we
paid
cash
directly
is
that
is
that
my
understanding.
A
Okay,
kevin
have
one
final
question
in
in
the
statutorily
with
the
clef
fund.
What
what
are
the
metrics
that
kick
in
an
increase
in
the
tax
rate,
and
my
understanding
was
that
the
healthier
the
fun
gets,
the
lower
that
rate
gets
it
is.
It
is
adjusted
on
occasion
and
it's
been
a
while
since
I've
looked
at
this,
so
is
that
accurate
or
maybe
close
to
accurate.
B
B
Can
the
funds
sustain
it,
and
I
know
that
that
finance
department
finance
distributes
those
funds,
and
I
think
it's
maybe
perhaps
effective
with
the
general
assembly
in
those
in
that,
but
I
can't
speak
directly
to
that.
I'm
not
exactly
familiar
with
that
of
that
process
other
than
you
know,
just
overseeing
it
once
every
once
it's
put
into
the
club.
B
B
A
All
right
very
good:
do
we
have
any
other
questions?
Anyone
online
remotely
that
has
a
question,
speak
now
forever
hold
your
peace.
A
Okay,
kevin,
I
I
don't
think
we
have
any
other
questions.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
information
and
I
have
no
doubts.
This
is
something
that
will
be
discussed
thoroughly
as
the
session
starts,
and
we
do
try
to
determine
where
the
funding
will
come
from
for
the
the
firing
range,
and
I
have
to
agree
with
my
colleagues
that
we
really
do
need
to
to
try
to
find
the
federal
dollars
to
to
maybe
get
in
and
pay
it
off
to
save,
actually
save
the
taxpayers
some
money.
A
Okay,
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
an
update
on
the
emergency
radio
replacement
system
and
I'm
not
sure
who
we
have
here
from
ksp.
A
We
have
scheduled
lieutenant
colonel
larry,
newton
and
then
brandon
marshall
and
are
are
both
of
you
all
here.
Yes,
senator.
We
are
very
good
colonel,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
you
all
have
the
floor.
Sir.
H
H
All
right
today,
I
would
like
to
update
you
everyone
on
the
radio
system
replacement
in
regards
to
the
project
we
have
going
on.
I
would
like
to
begin
today
by
thanking
the
governor's
office,
the
justice
and
public
safety
cabinet,
as
well
as
this
judicio,
this
justice
and
judiciary
committee,
for
all
your
continued
support
and
the
opportunity
to
update
you
on
the
ksp
radio
system
replacement
project.
H
As
for
our
radio
system,
the
kentucky
state
police
radio
system
replacement
capital
project
has
progressed
into
phase
two
of
its
three
planned
phases.
We
have
spent
or
encumbered
over
67
million
dollars
of
the
87
million
dollars
awarded
to
the
project.
Today,
the
executive
summary
that
we
distributed
captures
the
project's
notable
milestones
so
starting
in
2018
phase
1a
replaced
the
unsupported
radios
that
our
troopers
and
officers
used
with
new
devices.
H
Now,
in
2019,
phase
1b
focused
on
putting
the
key
system
building
blocks
in
place,
which
consisted
of
two
master
site
cores
that
were
procured
and
deployed
to
service
the
controllers
for
the
radio
system,
traffic
of
that
replacement
system.
These
cores
were
intentionally
placed
away
from
one
another,
one
in
frankfurt
and
the
other
in
elizabethtown.
H
This
new
equipment
will
refresh
the
old
system
hardware
with
a
modern
supportable
platform.
The
new
equipment
enables
new
features
that
are
critical
to
today's.
First
responders
features
including
encryption
for
safety
and
security,
digital
standards
for
inoperability
and
increasing
the
capacity
for
a
growing
number
of
users
and
the
growing
amount
of
radio
traffic.
H
Now,
in
2021
phase
two
began:
the
ambitious
expansion
of
our
replacement
system
from
phase
one's
two
westernmost
ksp
post
to
the
I-75
corridor.
As
seen
on
page
three
of
the
executive
summary
phase,
two
includes
new
radio
tower
infrastructure
for
eight
ksp
post,
including
post
3
bowling
green
post
4,
elizabethtown,
post
5,
camelsburg,
post
6,
dry
ridge,
post
7,
richmond,
post
12,
frankfurt,
post,
15,
columbia
and
post
16
henderson.
H
As
of
now,
radio
tower
infrastructure
has
been
ordered
and
business
and
is
being
assembled
by
the
manufacturer
for
tower
sites
in
phase
2..
Upon
its
completion
and
delivery,
existing
tower
sites
owned
or
used
by
the
commonwealth
will
be
upfitted
with
this
new
equipment
in
the
meanwhile,
ksp
is
actively
looking
to
acquire
land
in
target
areas.
Within
these
geographic
regions
we
need
to
construct
new
radio
towers
and
then
their
equipment
will
be
installed
directly
thereafter.
H
As
for
the
future,
the
near
future
capital
project
planning
is
already
underway
for
phase
three
phase.
Three
scope
of
work
will
complete
the
eastern
migration
of
the
replacement
system
to
the
furthest
tip
of
pike
county.
The
projections
indicate
that
equipment
will
be
needed
for
both
existing
towers
and
green
site
towers,
which
will
be
required
to
adequately
provide
radio
coverage
and
the
challenging
terrain
that
makes
up
eastern
kentucky.
H
A
Thank
you
lieutenant
cardinal,
can
you
just?
I
know
you
touched
on
the
money
that
ought
to
have
been
appropriated.
Could
you
please
go
over
the
numbers,
the
complete
cost
of
the
anticipated
cost
of
the
project
and
what
has
been
expended
to
this
point.
H
Yes,
as
of
right
now,
we
have
spent
or
encumbered
over
67
million
dollars
of
the
original
87
million
awarded
to
us
for
this
project
to
the
state.
A
And
how
far
will
the
87
million
get
you
all.
H
I
said
I'd
like
to
turn
that
question
over
to
brandon
marshall:
who's,
more
involved
in
the
technical
side
of
things.
I
believe
that
will
get
us
up
into
the
phase
two,
but
I
don't
wanna
misspeak,
sir.
G
You're
absolutely
correct,
colonel
so
upon
completion
of
phase
two,
we
should
have
our
radio
system
built
out
all
the
way
to
the
I-75
corridor.
G
A
Okay
and
kind
of
off
the
wall
question
is,
as
you
all
are.
Constructing
these
towers
has
there
been
any
ability
to
to
utilize
existing
towers
cell
phone
towers?
Anything
of
that
nature
to
to
help
cut
the
budget.
G
Love
to
address
that,
so
we
are
reusing
existing
towers
that
the
commonwealth,
already
own,
so
qs
towers,
ket
towers,
any
asset
that
the
commonwealth
already
has
we're
attempting
to
reuse
those,
obviously
because
it's
financially
prudent
to
do
so.
We
are
having
to
add
additional
sites
in
order
to
fill
in
coverage
gaps
with
those
sites.
Those
greenfield
sites
we've
chosen
to
use
a
lease
of
an
existing
cell
phone
tower
as
a
last
resort,
and
for
us
it's
really
about
controlling
the
long-term
sustainment
cost
of
the
system.
G
So
if
you've
got
a
monthly
fee
or
a
monthly
lease
on
a
cell
phone
tower,
that's
really
not
something
that
should
be
covered
in
our
mind
with
capital
project
funding,
so
we're
attempting
to
partner
with
local
and
state
agencies
who
have
been
very
gracious
by
the
way
in
the
western
kentucky
region.
Sir
ballard
county
webster,
county
trigg
county
have
all
given
us
zero
dollar
fifty
year
leases
in
order
to
build
tower
sites
on
their
property
to
expand
this
radio
system
and
coverage
for
their
area.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
gentlemen.
This
is
something
that
we've
been
working
on
for
a
long
time.
I
know,
but
the
first
bashir
administration
requested
it.
This
is
now
the
second
biennium.
The
bevin
administration
actually
got
this
done,
and
then
this
is
the
the
second
phase
out
of
three,
and
so
this
is
something
that
unifies
both
parties
over
multiple
administrations.
I
would
also
I'd
ask
the
question
similar
to
what
we
were
talking
about
with
clep
funds.
E
I
know
there
will
be
some
recurring
costs,
obviously,
but
there
will
be
a
large
and
there
is
a
large
one-time
expenditure
to
upgrade
these
these
systems
and
do
we
know
if
they're
eligible
to
be
used
from
the
federal
dollars.
E
I
know
we
want
to
get
all
the
glitzy
and
glamorous
things
out
of
the
federal
dollars,
but
this
is
the
type
of
thing
we
should
be
spending
this
money
on
and
so
do
we
is
it
possible
to
use
federal
dollars
to
do
phase
two
and
perhaps
phase
three
of
the
of
the
radio
system
upgrade.
H
Representatives,
I'm
sorry
we're
actually
looking
at
numerous
federal
options
for
those
federal
dollars,
so
that
is
definitely
something
we
are
looking
into
to
see.
If
that
can
offset
the
funding
that
would
be
needed
from
the
commonwealth.
E
Good,
thank
you
and
I
have
a
question
about
the
the
system
I
understand
in
northern
kentucky
and
maybe
other
places
that
the
that
the
that
the
signal
is
scrambled
is
that
is
that
something
that
we're
going
statewide
with
is
that
state
of
the
art
for
security
measures?
Am
I
do
I
having
my
information
wrong?
Can
you
tell
me
anything
about
the
the
signal
being
scrambled
in
northern
kentucky
and
and
what
that
means
for
the
rest
of
the
state.
G
So
so
the
scrambling
that
you're
referring
to
is
is
what
we
call
encryption
in
the
industry.
Encryption
is,
in
my
mind,
critical
for
all
public
safety
and
all
first
responders.
What
encryption
does
is.
It
does
not
allow
the
average
general
public
to
scan
and
or
listen
to
the
radio
traffic
that
first
responders
use,
and
why
is
that
so
important?
G
So
for
us,
just
a
few
years
ago,
we
had
a
trooper
who
lost
their
life
in
the
line
of
duty
and
while
he
was
on
his
radio
and
having
his
last
call
and
asking
for
help
that
traffic
was
being
monitored
and
rebroadcast
on
facebook,
that's
inexcusable,
there's
better
ways,
there's
better
technology,
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
that
never
happens
again.
No,
no
parent
or
wife
or
husband
or
spouse
of
a
first
responder
should
ever
get
that
type
of
notification
on
facebook
or
hear
their
loved
ones.
Last
call.
E
A
And
I
I
remember
the
days
when
it,
it
was
very
concerning
when
you
were
going
to
burglaries
robberies,
and
you
knew
that
nine
times
out
of
ten
when
they
had
a
scanner
and
they
they
knew
exactly
when
you
arrived,
so
that
that's
good,
that
the
system
is
capable
of
doing
that
brandon.
A
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
with
the
municipal
and
county
agencies
and
how
we're
we
are
making
progress
towards
interoperability
with
with
those
systems-
and
I
know
with
the
the
911
services
board
that
that
there
is
there
are
efforts
to
to
standardize
systems
throughout
the
state.
Are:
are
ksp
helping
to
monitor
that?
Are
there
their
guidelines
in
place
on
what
equipment
they
are
to
use
to
ensure
the
communications.
G
This
is
what
the
federal
government
uses,
and
this
is
what
they
recommend
that
all
public
safety
uses
as
well,
so
that
if
and
when
the
federal
government
comes
to
aid,
you
you'll
be
able
to
talk
to
them
and
they'll
be
able
to
talk
to
you,
because
you'll
have
radios
that
speak
the
same
digital
language,
if
you
will
so
standardized
technologies
are
kind
of
a
passion
of
mine
and
and
we
do
attempt
to
follow
standards.
G
G
G
All
responded
to
the
same
place
at
the
same
time,
and
because
it
was
so
early
in
the
digital
standard
for
for
radio,
a
lot
of
them
didn't
have
p25
or
the
federal
standard
they
they
bought,
what
their
vendor
sold
them
and
what
their
vendor
told
them
was
going
to
be
good
for
them
and
was
going
to
work
for
them
and
was
going
to
be
cost
effective.
A
You
may
not
be
able
to
answer
this,
but
across
the
commonwealth.
Do
you
do
you
know
how
many
psaps
we
have
today
and
is?
Is
ksp
starting
to
absorb
more
of
the
the
dispatch
for
for
local
agencies.
G
So
I
really
didn't
come
prepared
to
talk
about
as
far
as
the
psaps
or
the
public
safety
answering
points,
and
I
don't
have
that
number
off
the
top
of
my
head
as
far
as
how
many
there
are
across
the
state
9-1-1
by
by
law
by
statute
by
definition,
is
a
local
issue
and
should
be
handled
by
the
local
government
that
takes
those
calls
and
receives
those
funding.
G
The
kentucky
state
police
only
steps
in
and
answers,
9-1-1
calls
when
a
psap
or
a
local
entity
cannot
kind
of
as
a
fail-over
or
a
secondary
backup
point,
or
there
are
some
counties
that
have
decided
that
it's
not
cost
effective
for
them
and
they
can't
provide
that
service
adequately
and
they
contract
that
service
to
us.
So,
but
are
we
actively
pursuing
or
attempting
to
take
911
centers
and
consolidate
them
with
the
kentucky
state
police?
No,
sir,
we're
absolutely
not.
G
So
that
would
be
a
a
totally
different
topic
for
us
to
discuss
at
a
different
date
with
a
different
price
tag
that
we're
not
prepared
to
even
remotely
come
close
to
discussing.
A
And
I
didn't
mean
to
imply
that
at
all
I
know
in
our
area
there
have
been
conversations
in
the
past,
I
think,
with
mccracken
and
marshall,
both
about
the
possibility
of
ksp
taking
over,
but
that
that
was
something
they
were
looking
at
voluntarily.
What
from
ksp's
perspective?
What
model
do
you
all
see
as
we
go
to
the
future
when
it
involving
the
psaps
what
what
would
be
the
most
efficient
use
of
the
system
and
of
the
available
funding
to
ensure
top
quality
and
the
safety
of
our
emergency
personnel?
H
In
regards
to
the
psat
model,
I
I
hate
to
say
that
I
did
not
necessarily
prepare
for
that
conversation
in
regards
to
those
numbers.
That's
a
great
question,
senator
that's
something
that
inoperability
is
key.
Actually
the
encryption
is
key
and
working
with
each
other
is
key
so
moving
forward.
I
can
get
you
some
more
information
for
that
in
regards
to
the
pset
perspective,
but
as
of
right
now,
I'm
not
prepared
to
talk
about
that.
Okay,.
A
Fair
enough-
and
I
I
know
that's
kind
of
a
different
topic
and
I
know
there
have
been
a
lot
of
efforts
to
consolidate
centers
and
financial
incentives
through
the
the
911
board,
grant
funding
to
do
that.
So
I
don't
think
there's
any
question:
that's
the
way
we're
headed
as
a
state
and-
and
I
think,
as
technology
gets
better
and
better.
You
know
I
had
concerns
with
that
in
the
past,
about
the
safety
of
our
officers
in
in
having
a
dispatch
center.
A
That
you
know
could
be
several
counties
over,
but
the
technology
is
getting
better
and
I've
kind
of
changed.
My
thoughts
on
that
and
and
I'm
sure
we
will
continue
in
that
direction.
Do
we
have
any
other
questions
of
lieutenant
colonel
or
mr
marshall.
I
I
would
just
I
appreciate
this
discussion.
I've
been
looking
at
these
numbers
for
about
22
years
and
some
of
it
I'm
having
deja
vu
all
over
again,
but
I
think
I
just
want
to
express
my
concerns
to
the
record
about
phase
three
and
accommodate
in
eastern
kentucky,
where
our
officers
are
in
a
great
deal
of
danger
in
in
remote
areas,
geographical
challenges.
All
that,
notwithstanding,
you
know,
we
we've
got
to.
We've,
got
to
consider
stepping
up
a
timeline
for
the
accommodation
of
of
eastern
kentucky.
I
I
So
I
want
to
state
that
encourage
everybody
to
do
everything
they
can
to
provide
some
equity
for
for
those
individuals
that
choose
to
work,
or
you
know
the
citizens
of
east
kentucky
or
are
assigned
to
east
kentucky,
sometimes
sometimes
maybe
as
a
punishment,
but
anyway
that
was
a
record.
That's
that's
what
I
want
to
say
about
that
and
then.
Secondly,
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
the
encryption,
because
I
think
we
don't
want
anything.
You
know
I've
had
all
ksp
officers
right
near
and
dear
to
me.
I
However,
you
have
to
balance
the
citizens
right
to
know
and
agency
transparency
with
a
rational,
equal
handed
approach,
so
I
would
like
to
more
know
more
about
the
encryption,
the
anticipated
application
of
the
encryption,
and
I
think
that
might
be
a
topic,
mr
chairman,
for
a
whole
sub-section
in
a
committee
meeting
coming
on,
but
if
not
this
committee
in
another
committee
of
jurisdiction,
so
those
are
the
two
things
I
appreciate
the
conversation
and
but
I
wanted
to
state
those
things
as
a
long
time.
I
A
B
A
Thank
you,
representative,
senator
webb,
hopefully
with
with
federal
dollars.
If
we
can
get
maybe
get
those
appropriated,
we
can
get
the
project
completed
ahead
of
schedule,
which
would
be
great
for
entire
state,
and
I
I
think,
is
crucial
so
that
I'm
sure
that's
something
we
will
look
at
during
the
session
as
we
move
forward
with
the
budget.
A
I
appreciate
that
ma'am
lieutenant
colonel
newton,
mr
marshall.
Thank
you
both
so
much
for
the
presentation
and
appreciate
all
your
work
on.
I
know
we've
come
a
long
way
in
this
this
process
with
this
new
system
and-
and
I
don't
know
that
the
public
really
understands
the
value
of
what
you
all
are
doing
in
protecting
not
only
our
officers
but
our
citizens.
A
The
technology
is
state
of
the
art,
and
you
know-
and
I
guess
the
the
main
goal
is
to
get
it
all
installed
before
it's
no
longer
state
of
the
art,
which
can
often
be
the
case,
but
you
know
it's
something
we
are
committed
to
and
at
this
time
with
all
the
federal
dollars
coming
in
it
would
definitely
be
an
appropriate
use
of
those
those
dollars.
A
That's
all
we
have
on
the
agenda
agenda.
Gentlemen.
Thank
you
so
much,
and
this
will
be
the
last
meeting
of
this
committee
for
the
interim,
and
I
want
to
thank
all
the
staff
for
their
work
in
putting
these
meetings
together
and
appreciate
all
you
all
do
we,
you
know
it
seems
we
always
get
the
credit,
but
the
reality
of
it
is
you
all.
Are
the
ones
that
actually
do
all
the
hard
work
and
know
that
you
are
appreciated
very
much
and
to
all
the
members?
Thank
you
for
your
participation
in
this
committee.
A
I
think
some
good
topics
and
I
think
it's
the
things
that
we
have
covered
will
be
helpful
when
budget
time
comes
and
we're
in
meetings
and
and
trying
to
appropriate
funding
and
which
has
been
the
goal
of
this
committee
to
be
more
focused
and
and
try
to
actually
come
up
with
with
information.
That's
going
to
benefit
us
as
we
move
forward
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