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Flood
representative
fugit
here
representative
Gentry
here
representative
Hale,
present
representative
Hart
here
representative
Hatton
representative
McCool,
here
representative
nemes,
here,
representative
Palumbo,
here,
representative
Gibbons
prunty,
here,
representative
Raymond,
here,
representative
Reed,
here,
representative
Riley,
representative
Santoro,
representative
Tipton,
representative
Wilner,
here
coach
here,
McDaniel
chair
Petrie.
A
A
A
A
G
Thank
you
again.
Just
give
you
a
an
update
of
where
things
stand,
we'll
share
the
the
major
highlights
of
the
Navi
plan.
Navi
stands
for
National
Electric
Vehicle
infrastructure
plan
just
to
start
out
to
share
with
you
the
vision
out
of
the
the
plan
is
for
a
reliable,
accessible,
convenient
and
affordable
EV
charging
Network
that
supports
transportation
choices,
energy
diversification,
Economic
Development
and
environmental
sustainability
for
all
kentuckians.
A
G
Sir
sorry
about
that,
first
I
wanted
to
share
what
our
what
we've
designated
as
our
high
priority
EV
coordinated
corridors.
G
This
includes
all
of
the
interstates
and
Parkways
and
We've
added
to
that
some
specific
highways
to
help
fill
in
the
gaps
to
ensure
accessibility
throughout
Kentucky
for
electric
vehicles.
G
G
So
this
came
about
about
a
year
ago
with
the
iija,
the
Federal
Transportation
reauthorization
out
of
that
developed
the
national
electric
vehicle
infrastructure
or
Navi
program.
The
Navy
program
consists
of
two
blocks
of
funding.
The
first
is
the
formula
funds
69.5
million
that
is
scheduled
to
come
to
Kentucky
and
then
the
discretionary
competitive
grant
program
two
and
a
half
billion
available
nationally.
G
We
don't
have
guidance
on
that
yet,
but
it's
expected
later
this
year,
so
one
of
the
one
of
the
criteria
for
accessing
These
funds
is
to
have
a
an
infrastructure,
an
EV
infrastructure
deployment
plan
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that,
as
of
September
14th
Kentucky
was
one
of
the
first
and
with
glowing
reviews
from
the
Feds
that
we
got
our
plan
approved
and
that
releases
the
first
25
million
of
Navy
Federal
funding
which
were
working
now
to
to
deploy.
G
So
how
we're
looking
to
deploy
those
funds.
We've
broken
up
into
four
phases:
phase
one
and
two
we're
working
on
now
to
deploy
those
phase.
Three
and
four
requires
that
the
alternative
fuels
Corridor
be
fully
built
out
and
I'll
share,
just
just
in
a
moment
what
that
build
out
looks
like,
and
we
expect
that
to
be
fiscally
related
about
half
of
2024s
Navi
related
funding
to
get
that
fully
fully
built
out.
G
What
does
build
out
mean?
It
requires
Navi
Chargers,
DCF
dcfc.
This
is
fast
charging
stations,
at
least
every
50
miles
limited
to
a
mile
from
the
corridor
itself
and
at
each
station
it's
required
to
have
four
150
kilowatt
chargers
for
a
total
of
600
kilowatt,
and
these
are
required
to
be
open
to
any
Comer
that
has
an
electric
vehicle.
It
cannot
be
proprietary.
Currently,
Tesla
is
a
proprietary
charger,
so
until
they
open
those
up
to
the
rest
of
the
market,
those
would
not
be
considered
heavy
compliant.
G
The
the
framework
that
we're
proposing
to
put
in
is
that
kytc
will
not
own
operate
or
maintain
these
stations,
we're
facilitating
the
deploying
of
these
funds,
and
these
would
be
fully
deployed
in
the
private
sector
as
such,
we're
providing
information
based
on
the
suitability,
whether
it
has
the
the
basic
components,
that's
required
to
sustain
a
a
basically
those
that
would
be
marketable.
How
marketable
would
be
they
be
at
these
locations
and
then
priority
how
it
relates
to
a
successful
deployment.
G
A
successful
build
out
of
the
AFC
Network,
so
we're
providing
those
information
for
for
applicants
to
help
guide
their
Investments.
A
common
question
we
get
is
the
the
charging
section
costs,
the
capital
cost.
The
Upfront
cost
is
between
800
000
and
1.2
million
per
station,
and
this
is
for
a
full
Navy
station
of
four
ports.
Of
course,
it's
all
custom
based
on
the
specific
site
that
a
an
applicant
is
interested
in
based
on
the
power.
G
That's
there
any
site
configurations
or
nuances
beyond
that,
based
on
our
designated
AFC,
we
estimate
the
full
build
out
will
be
about
40
million
dollars,
and
I
will
caveat
that
that
this
is
a
a
somewhat
nebulous
number
right
now.
I'll
get
into
that
in
just
a
second
operating,
a
maintenance
costs
we're
still
working
on
what
that
year-over-year
cost
is
going
to
be.
G
There's
not
a
not
a
good
firm
number
on
that,
and
then
the
last
Point
relates
to
the
the
cost
is
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
Market
volatility
affecting
both
capital
and
operating
and
maintenance
costs,
and
so
we're
once
these
start
getting
deployed
both
in
Kentucky
and
in
other
states,
we'll
firm
those
numbers
up
significantly
moving
forward
back
in
August
in
through
the
month
of
September
and
October,
we
issued
a
request
for
information
to
the
industry
and
other
interested
parties
to
basically
help
us
inform
both
our
upcoming
RFP,
as
well
as
other
o
m
considerations
as
we
deploy.
G
These
Chargers
Justin
has
been
heading
that
up
for
for
the
transportation
and
he
spent
the
vast
majority
of
October
conducting
those
meetings
and
gathering
information.
G
Out
of
that,
we
had
36
responses
through
a
variety
of
Market
categories
and
we're
we're
still
getting
some
responses
and
we're
still
following
up
on
those
in
order
to
get
the
best
deployment
we
can
out
of
out
of
these
funds,
so
finally
want
to
share
with
you
what
our,
what
our
schedule
is
going
to
be
as
of
right
now,
we're
transitioning
into
November
we're
right
on
the
end
of
holding
those
RFI
meetings
still
have
some
that
we
anticipate
coming
up,
but
over
the
next
month
or
two
we're
going
to
be
developing
those
procurement
documents
to
get
those
out.
G
Our
goal
is
to
have
a
draft
of
those
out
in
December
for
Market
awareness,
with
the
with
the
proposals
due
back
at
the
end
of
February
early
March
and
have
contracts
issued
in
that
time
frame.
So
with
that
open
to
any
questions,
y'all
might
have
about
this
program.
A
I
You
Mr
chairman
I
know
this
is
new
for
a
lot
of
people
and
one
question
that
I
get
a
lot
is
I
I'm,
assuming
we're
looking
at
things.
Businesses
like
service
stations,
restaurants
that
are
close
to
that
Corridor
for
potential.
Who
actually
does
the
customer
pay
for
the
electricity?
That's
used?
How
will
that
be.
G
Handled
generally
speaking,
the
the
the
the
retail
atmosphere
we
envision
is
that
there
will
be
a
fee
for
that
charge.
Just
like
you
pay
for
electricity
to
home
unless
there's
a
an
entity
entity
that
throws
it
in
as
part
of
those,
but
we
anticipate
a
lot
of
these
will
be
Standalone,
maybe
associated
with
a
business,
but
we'll
stand
alone
and
charge
a
fee
for
for
charging.
I
Mr
chairman,
if
I
could
make
a
brief
comment,
please
right
now
an
individual
who's
from
out
of
state
who
drives
in
purchases
gasoline
the
state
they
pay
a
user
fee
on
that
gasoline
that
helps
pace
for
upkeep
of
our
roads.
We've
just
made
changes
in
the
law
for
residents
of
Kentucky
who
own
electric
vehicles
to
pay
into
that.
However,
somebody
from
out
of
state
who
has
an
electric
vehicle
they
come
in
their
state,
they
use
their
roads.
I
J
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I'm,
from
Western
Kentucky
and
I've
stopped
at
the
service
area
there
at
apart
for
Beaver
Dam,
there's
already
charging
stations
there.
How
does
that
fit
into
the
to
the
network
and
there
were
diesel,
they
were
fueled
by
diesel.
I
mean
it
makes
no
sense
to
me.
Can
you
comment
on
that
and
and
how
they
would
fit
into
the
network?
Those.
G
Are
my
understanding
is
those
are
Tesla,
Chargers
and
so
they're
not
eligible
for
all
electric
vehicles?
So
there
is
discussions
or
there's
there's
a
word
that
Tesla
is
looking
to
open
those
up
to
all
electric
vehicles
and
if
they
do
that,
then
that
transition
could
be
Navi
Navi
eligible
for
funding,
but
until
that
is
open,
dollar
Charters
and
it
doesn't
really
fit
into
the
until
the
build
out
at
all.
Currently.
K
G
That
would
maybe
best
directed
to
Washington
DC
that
made
these
funds
available.
They've
been
made
available
to
Kentucky
and
the
way
that
we're
anticipating
deploying
these
there
would
be
little
if
any
state
funds
associated
with
these
deployments.
A
And
and
we're
going
to
get
back
to
that
in
a
little
bit,
but
in
all
fairness,
the
funds
were
made
available
at
the
federal
level,
but
they
weren't
pushed
upon
the
states,
that's
correct.
So
it
is
a
choice
by
the
state
to
take
those
funds
and
then
any
commensurate
costs
associated
with
maintaining,
repairing
replacing
or
in
perpetuity
or
handing
this
offer.
If
something
fails
and
all
kinds
of
contingencies
we'll
get
into
those
hey.
K
A
Theory
and
I
didn't
mean
to
didn't
mean
to
imply
that
if
it
sounded
like
it,
it's
a
question
of
when
you
make
that
choice.
There
are
consequences
to
those
choices
and
there
are
costs
associated
with
those
choices
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
try
to
understand.
Better
Senator,
McDaniel,
co-chairman,
McDaniel.
L
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I'm,
going
to
just
very
tangentially
piggyback
on
representative
Tipton
here
and
guys.
This
is
just
an
open
invitation
when
we
did
the
fees
affiliated
with
electric
vehicles
last
year
in
House,
Bill
8.,
the
intent
was
to
leave
the
period
open
for
comments
and
obviously
the
more
we
move
along
the
more
that
will
affect
our
road
funding.
So,
to
the
extent
the
cabinet,
and
particularly
you
guys,
who,
who
are
in
the
actual
operational
area,
have
ideas
about
the
best
way
to
capture
and
those
revenues
towards
a
road
fund.
L
Please
let
us
know,
please
submit
those
to
us,
you
guys
cabinet-wide,
because
obviously
it
will
have
a
big
impact
on
our
infrastructure
for
the
next
generation,
and
we
certainly
want
to
make
sure
we
get
the
funding
portion
of
it
right.
So
I
just
wanted
to
extend
the
invitation.
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
A
M
Question
Mr
chair,
if
I
could
I
appreciate
that
this
thing's
still
in
its
infancy
and
there's
a
lot
to
learn,
but
I'm
always
concerned
about
unintended
consequences,
and
when
you
talk
about
operating
and
maintaining
these
stations,
you
know
in
theory
in
theory,
what
we
want
to
do
is
the
government
wants
to
do
is
eliminate
gasoline
stations,
so
we're
going
to
be
in
competition
with
gasoline
stations,
we'll
we'll
gasoline
stations
get
first.
Priority
is
the
location
of
these
charging
stations.
G
We
have
not
dug
into
those
to
the
selection
criteria
to
to
nail
down.
You
know
prioritization
of
deployments,
but
we
recognize
that
the
the
the
fuel
system
within
Kentucky
is
is.
It
has
is
of
the
ubiquitous
nature
that
it
makes
sense
for
for
some
of
these
to
be
deployed
at
fueling
stations.
But
that
being
said,
we're
not
we're
not
steering
these
One
Way
Or
Another
We're,
making
these
funds
available
for
the
applicants
to
to
deploy
where
it
makes
sense
for
the
the
work
for
the
applicant.
M
Well,
with
all
due
respect,
I
think
some
thought
has
to
be
given
to
what
the
impact
this
is
going
to
have
on
service
stations
and
in
businesses
associated
with
that
and
again,
as
this
thing
evolves
at
some
point
in
time,
we
may
create
gasoline
deserts
because
if
you
don't
have
the
margin
to
stay
in
business
and
we've
seen
it
with
the
situation
with
replacing
storage
tanks,
people
couldn't
afford
that
we
had
to
shut
down
the
gasoline
station.
M
So
is
any
thought
given
at
all
to
this
kind
of
transition
plan
that,
as
these
things
start
to
proliferate,
then
it
is
going
to
place
a
financial
burden
on
existing
filling
stations.
Gasoline
stations
that
won't
provide
this
service
can't
provide
that
service
and
how
do
they
continue
to
exist?
And
how
do
we
assure
and
Rural
Kentucky
that
there's
still
access
to
gasoline?
G
We're
coordinating
very
closely
with
with
the
petroleum
manufacturers
Association
in
fact
Justin's
sneaking
out
here
very
quickly
after
this
testimony
to
go
present
at
the
Kentucky
patroller
manufacturers
Association,
so
we're
we're
very
tightly
coordinating
with
with
all
interested
parties
and
we're
listening
to
them
most
attentively.
Well,.
M
The
most
interested
part
is
going
to
be
the
consumer
and
again
it's
a
challenge
already
for
real
communities
with
the
price
and
gasoline
increasing
what
it
has
to
even
survive,
but
I
could
see.
This
thing
could
really
get
out
of
hand
in
a
very
short
period
of
time
if
we
don't
give
some
forethought
to
it.
But
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair,
thank.
A
G
Hoping
looking
at
the
end
of
this
year,
early
next
year
for
the
initial
RFP.
A
G
We
have
not
we're
in
the
process
of
developing
doing
that
and
we
haven't
got
a
haven't,
got
those
details
worked
out
yet.
G
We've
started,
we've
gathered
a
bunch
of
considerations
as
were,
and
we
just
finished
the
the
first
round
according
with
industry
last
week,
and
so
this
month
is
over
the
next
month
month
and
a
half
is
when
we'll
dig
deep
into
that
development
and.
A
N
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
a
quick
question,
or
two
first
of
all,
just
so
I'm
perfectly
clear:
we're
going
to
take
this
money,
we're
going
to
build
these
out
and
we're
going
to
put
these
in
some
instances,
at
least
on
current
existing
business
properties
and
most
likely
it's
going
to
need
to
be
a
place
where
people
can
have
time,
because
it's
not
like
pumping
gas
you're
in
and
out
in
five
minutes
that
they
can
go
in
and
out.
So
we
go
in
and
we
install
these
who
provides
the
power
to
charge.
G
That
just
to
be
clear
that
the
state
is
not
anticipating
to
own
or
operate
any
of
these
stations,
so
they
would
be
deployed
in
whatever.
Whatever
agreement
that
the
the
landowner
and
the
operator
of
the
electric
charger
works
out
regarding
leasing
of
the
site
or
or.
O
N
Okay,
so
the
profit
would
go
to
the
landowner
in
this
situation.
Are
we
going
to
pick
winners
and
losers?
What
if
you
go
down
Restaurant
Row,
where
I
come
from
and
you
got
several
C
stores
and
restaurants
through
there
are
we
going
to
decide
which
one's
going
to
get
one
and
which
one's
not.
G
It's
going
to
be
the
the
we're
looking
at
the
selection
criteria,
based
on
the
best
available
proposals
that
we
get
so
the
best
value
proposals.
N
So,
are
we
looking
anticipating,
maybe
some
Investments,
being
included
in
this
project
from
the
property
owners
to
get
the
stations
on
their
property.
G
It
it's
possible
I,
think
the
the
best
value
is
going
to
be
the
ones
that
that
would
have
limited
investment
required
to
bring
those
up
to
deployment,
but
we're
open
to
the
best
proposal
at
the
best
locations
that
fills
out
the
AFC
Network
in
Kentucky.
Okay,
one.
N
Short
last
question
Mr
chairman,
who
will
set
the
rates
if,
if
I
go
to
a
station
in
one
city
and
I
charge
and
the
next
city,
I
go
to
am
I
going
to
pay
a
different
rate?
Is
that
going
to
be
based
on
kilowatts
per
hour?
Is
that
going
to
be
does?
Does
the
business
owner
set
a
rate
what
they
want
to
charge?
How
are
we
going
to
find
consistency,
not
that
we
have
a
lot
of
consistency
in
gas
prices,
but
some
consistency?
G
We're
coordinating
closely
with
Public
Service
Commission,
who
will
who
regulates
that
and
we're
it.
Based
on
what
we
understand
in
our
coordination,
there
will
be
slight
variations
based
on
electricity
rates
in
different
areas
of
the
state,
but
the
regulation
of
that
we're
we're
talking
with
them,
but
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
that.
Sir.
Thank.
H
You,
and
so,
if
I
could
add,
Federal
highways
is
also
in
their
proposed
rule.
Making
that
we're
waiting
on
for
the
final
rulemaking
has
dictated
some
type
of
requirements
to
make
sure
that
people
are
not
quote
unquote
being
like
price
gouged
with
these
EV
rates,
and
so
there
will
be
some
sort
of
like
measures
in
place
to
make
sure
that
people
aren't
just
being
charged
like
outrageous
EV
rates
for
charging
at
these
charging
stations,
but
we're
just
not
sure
what
those
final
rates
very.
P
Question
Mr
chairman:
have
there
been
any
comparisons
made
on
what
the
savings
is
for
like
for
a
full
charge
for
a
vehicle
compared
to
what
a
full
tank
of
gas
would
be?
When
you
look
at
the
costs,
maybe
looking
at
the
average
cost
of
electricity,
do
we
know
how
much
savings
there
is
without
knowing
the
rates
it's
well?
An
average
rate
I
mean
if
we're
going.
If
we're
going
by
that
area,
I
wouldn't
think
there
would
be
a
huge
amount
of
fluctuation
across
the
state.
We've
not
looked
at
that
today.
G
Rapid
charger,
if
with
with
all
ports
being
used,
it
would
roughly
be
about
30
minutes.
We
are
looking
at
Power
sharing
options
where,
with
a
station
that
has
four
Chargers
with
600
kilowatts
available,
then
it's
potential,
if
they're
the
only
ones
at
the
station,
then
that
would
be
accelerated
for
that
for
that
user.
So
it
would
be
less
than
30
minutes,
but
30
minutes
is
roughly
the
industry
standard.
P
G
Would
be
generally
passed
through
traffic
or
tourist
traffic
that
would
use
dcfc
and
it'd,
be
when
they're
traveling
long
distances,
and
so,
but
we
have
not
looked
at
the
full
conversion.
We
have
looked
at
anticipated
growth
of
electric
vehicles
along
our
quarters
and
Stage
that
out
to
about
20
30
20
40,
to
see
how
many
Chargers
would
be
needed
along
each
of
our
corridors.
P
C
Question
Mr
chair,
Mr
Moore.
You
just
made
a
comment
that
most
of
the
charging
will
be
done
at
home
and
that's
assuming
that
that
consumers
are
able
to
afford
the
hookup.
We
have
a
lot
of
apartment
buildings
and
a
lot
of
large
buildings
where
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
Park
that
may
not
be
possible,
but
that,
but
my
question
here
is
this
I'm
concerned
about
the
security
of
the
people
of
a
commonwealth
and
they're,
going
to
have
to
pull
up
to
these
stations
and
we're
assuming
it's
going
to
be
30
minutes.
C
But
if
there
are
four
charging
stations
and
you've
got
eight
or
nine
or
ten
Vehicles,
that's
not
30
minutes!
That's
a
little
bit
more
than
30
minutes
by
my
math.
My
question
is:
who
pays
for
security
at
these
areas
and
who
pays
for
accommodations
because
those
facilities
are
going
to
cost
money?
So
it's
not
just
going
to
be
the
cost
of
the
electricity
that
some
of
our
consumers
are
going
to
be
exposed
to
it's
going
to
be
the
upgrades
to
these
buildings.
Could
you
could
you
talk
about
that
a
little
bit?
G
The
available
accommodations
at
the
at
the
locations
is
is
a
factor
that
we're
looking
at
that
goes
into
the
suitability
you
know
to
have
have
the
the
physical
security
of
that
area,
whether
there's
lighting
and
perhaps
canopy
something
to
do
during
those
30
minutes
that
you
may
be
sitting
there
charging.
Those
are
factors
that
that
will
be
considered.
Don't
have
specifics
yet
on
on
those
nuances,
but
that
we
don't
anticipate,
there's
a
that
that
those
will
be
supported.
Those
accommodations
will
be
supported
by
this
funding.
C
Just
one
follow-up,
I
I
really
would
prefer
that
we
stop
using
the
30
minute.
It's
gonna.
It
may
take
30
minutes
to
charge,
but
like
most
of
the
people
in
the
general
assembly
and
most
of
the
people
here
in
the
Commonwealth.
It's
it's
pretty
unusual.
When
you
pull
into
a
high
traffic
area
and
you're
able
to
pull
right
up
to
the
pumps,
even
as
the
pumps
are
now
and
I,
don't
anticipate
that
being
any
different
with
the
EVS.
C
So
my
concern
is
that
we're
throwing
out
this
30
minute
time
limit
and
we're
essentially
we're
essentially
suggesting
this
to
the
people
of
the
Commonwealth
when
we
know
that
likely
that's
going
to
be
a
rarity.
C
Thank
you.
Mr
Mr.
Q
What
question
after
a
brief
comment,
you
know:
I'm
gonna,
go
kick
it
and
screaming
into
this
new
road,
because
I,
like
my
diesel
I,
like
my
horse,
trailer
travel
way
too
many
miles
and
don't
have
much
time
to
do
what
I
do
now,
but
separate
apart
from
that,
when
and
I've
set
through
a
couple
presentations
to
municipalities
on
on
the
potential
of
these
stations
being
placed
so
I
understand
a
little
bit
about
the
what
what's
what's
may
be
coming,
but
what
about
required?
Q
Maintenance
I
mean
I,
can't
help,
but
analogize
them
to
the
air
machine.
When
your
tires
going
flat-
and
you
can't
find
one
that
works
between
here
and
and
Morehead
on
the
way
home
is
a
requirement
to
maintain
or
a
time
frame
of
Maintenance
or
requirements
being
looked
at
in
the
rule,
making
process
or
be
anywhere
else
to
require
I
mean
I
represent
rural
Kentucky.
Q
If
we've
got
one
station
and
it's
out
of
order,
I
mean
that's
going
to
put
a
lot
of
people
at
a
standstill
and
and
cause
what
Senator
Douglas
was
talking
about
there
and
you
know
I'm
in
an
area
plagued
with
ice
storm
and
if
you
look
call
it
what
you
will
but
we're
having
more
ice
storms
in
East,
Kentucky,
they're,
devastating
I've
had
counties.
Q
People
go
without
power
for
40
days,
so
those
are
concerns
that
I
have
in
a
practical
reality
of
this
and
how
you
know,
notwithstanding
the
insufficient
grid
capacity
that
we
have
now
so
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
to
be
said
here.
I
know
you
all
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing,
but
we
certainly
want
to
be
kept
informed
of
things
on
every
level.
But
we
appreciate
you
being
here
today.
Thank.
G
You
and
if
I
may,
the
operations
and
maintenances
that's
a
factor
within
the
the
EV
industry
today
and
it's
one
that
that
the
industry
is
is
working
to
self-police
themselves,
for
example,
forward
when
they
they
won't
list
a
charge.
A
charger
that
does
not
have
appropriate
maintenance
or
uptime
is
the
is
the
industry
term,
and
so
we're
looking
to
incorporate
some
of
those
requirements
into
our
RFP.
Part
of
that
is
a
is
part
of
the
national
conversation
and
I.
G
H
And
I'll
just
add
that
Federal
highways
right
now
is
looking
at
the
uptime
being
about
97
percent.
Now
we
have
asked
exactly
what
that
uptime
means.
You
know
when
we
have
like
a
storm
or
an
ice
storm
or
something
and
that's
what
we're
waiting
for
in
their
final
ruling.
G
So,
yes,
that
it's
much
harder
in
the
western
states
but
Kentucky
we
can
cover
that.
A
G
A
G
Does
not
negate
the
funding,
it
does
limit
our
ability
to
move
off
of
move
the
funding
off
of
the
alternative
fuel
Corridor.
But
that
being
said,
if
you
have
one
say
that's
right
at
the
50
mile
limit
that
is
unsuccessful,
you
could
come
back
with
two
at
25
miles
and
fully
build
out
the
corridor
so
move
to
an
interchange,
either
side
of
that
location
and
deploy
there
and
meet
the
criteria.
G
To
move
off
of
the
to
move
fast,
Chargers
out
of
off
of
the
alternative
fuel
Corridor
developed
the
the
orange
corridors
that
we
saw
as
well
as
potentially
to
move
into
Community
Chargers,
which
is
the
longer
duration
charges
with
more
for
office
or
home-based
charging.
G
As
of
right
now,
we
anticipate
phases
one
and
two
for
certain,
within
the
limit
of
the
volatility
being
funded
within
the
the
available
Navy
funds.
The
beyond
that,
we
will
go
until
we
until
the
funding,
Runs
Out.
A
S
G
A
G
Anticipate
after
the
after
the
five
years
of
the
Navy
program
that
my
goal
would
be
to
back
out
of
the
marketplace
and
not
be
involved,
don't
necessarily
anticipate
this
being
no
indications
that
I'm
aware
of
that
this
would
be
extended,
but
beyond
the
the
performance
period
that
we
have,
we
anticipate
these
would
be
fully
private
without
State
involvement.
G
A
And
when
the
at
this
point,
when
the
fed
money
Federal
money
ceases,
you
would
anticipate
no
cost
to
the
Commonwealth.
G
A
G
We,
yes,
that
that
is
correct.
We're
not
our
current
plans
are
not
to
utilize
those
funds
for
matching
these.
These
deployments.
G
There
there
are
some
some
locations
where,
if
they
are,
if
they
are
less
successful
in
getting
bids
that
it
may
require
additional
subsidization
to
get
them,
get
them
going,
and
those
cases
that
the
that
there
may
be
a
requirement
to
if
we
want
those
to
to
be
fully
built
out,
then
there's
a
possibility
that
we
would
need
to
utilize
that.
But
that's
not
our
first
goal.
We.
A
It's
a
possibility,
not
first
preference,
yes,
absolutely
understood,
and
so,
if
we
do
not
have
successful
RFP
applicants
for
1
to
12
locations,
then
the
consideration
is
the
state
may
put
its
own
money
in
addition
to
Federal
money
in
order
to
get
those
operational.
That
is
a
possibility.
Yes,
sir
again,
we
would
have
a
fully
subsidized
location
against
Private
Industry.
At
that
point,.
G
T
G
Important
to
have
local
skin
in
the
game,
so
there's
ownership
of
it
and
so
that
their
investment
is
successful.
That's
the
reason
we
went
with
we're,
starting
at
fully
private
leverage,
have.
A
A
G
A
Different
question
altogether:
in
the
petroleum
industry,
we
have
Department
of
AG
that
oversees
measurements
certifies
so
especially
if
there's
a
fee
charged
and
then
taxes
thereafter,
it's
at
least
accurate,
as
your
plan
include
the
department
of
AG
to
oversee
that
measurement.
Also,
we've.
A
G
Would
be
the
the
primary
consideration.
G
G
A
You
mentioned
PSC
involvement
earlier
I'm,
not
sure
I've
followed
where
you
were
going
on
that
so
is
PSC
going
to
be
overseeing
the
Commonwealth
in
its
entirety,
relative
to
a
range
or
the
actual
price
of
what's
charged
at
the
pumps
at
R4
fee.
H
So,
with
working
with
PSC,
they
will
be
putting
in
the
next
year.
They
will
start
looking
at
sort
of
guidelines
for
the
utilities
that
they
regulate
and
then,
of
course,
it's
just
guidelines
for
those
utilities
to
follow.
A
Know
and
what's
the
estimated
cost
additional
to
the
AG's
office
for
performing
that
function?
I
do
not
have
that.
Do
we
have
an
estimate
at
all?
No
sir
there's
a
justice
40
requirement,
that's
mentioned
in
your
presentation
and
then
the
Federal
documents,
as
well
as
your
plan
with
the
justice
40,
include
some
kind
of
preferential
treatment
for
persons
who
are
already
offering
Petroleum
Services
at
those
exchanges
to
make
sure
it's
equitable.
G
To
my
understanding
of
the
justice
40
requirements
is
that
40
of
the
benefit
goes
to
the
justice
40
designated
communities.
It's
not
my
understanding
that
that
any
petroleum
manufacturer
or
current
stations
would
be
benefited
by
that
at
all.
G
A
point
of
emphasis:
I,
don't
know
if
it
is
a
requirement.
A
G
As
of
right
now,
currently,
the
the
considerations
for
justice
40
is
somewhat
nebulous
and
we're
waiting
further
Guidance
with
the
final
rule
on
how
that's
to
be
considered
so
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
information
on
how
that's
being
considered.
G
H
A
Good
and
I
know
I
wasn't
able
to,
but
in
development
of
the
plan.
I
noticed
when
I
read
through
it
that
that
a
lot
of
stakeholders
were
consulted
and
that's
a
very
good
practice
whom
out
of
the
general
assembly
leadership,
was
involved
as
a
as
a
working
partner.
E
O
West
thank
Mr
chairman,
quick
question
on
CE
implemented.
So
once
all
the
charging
stations
are
in
place
and
the
EVS
start
using
the
stations,
is
there
going
to
be
enough
power
to
supply
the
stations
and
have
you
met
with
power
the
power
companies
to
ask
them
this
question?
Do
they
are
we
going
to
possibly
experience
brownouts
or
is
the
current
capability
to
provide
enough
power.
G
We've
coordinated
extensively
with
with
with
the
utility
companies
and
we've
been
assured
from
the
power
companies
that,
with
the
anticipated
transition
that
that
power
availability
would
not
be
an
issue
until
we
get
to
more
of
the
higher
higher
level.
Chargers
the
350
kilowatt,
Chargers
or,
and
the
the
anticipated
conversion
is
slow
enough
that
the
municipalities
in
the
the
utilities
indicate
that
they
have
capacity
to
to
adjust
as
they
go.
G
There
may
be
some
some
location,
specific
items
where
a
fleet
comes
online
of
electric
vehicles
that
will
put
a
unique
load
on
the
on
the
system,
but
through
our
coordination,
they're
not
concerned
with
this
today.
M
I
think
Mr
chair
just
a
quick
follow-up
question
on
slide.
Four:
your
charging
station
cost.
You
got
a
wide
spread
there
from
800
000,
1.2
million
and
says
based
on
power,
availability,
site,
design,
layout
and
so
forth.
How
much
is
the
cost
of
the
the
charging
station
itself
because
I'm,
assuming
that
in
this
course,
you're
talking
about
building
the
infrastructure
to
support
the
charging
station
plus
the
cost
of
the
charging
station?
How
much
is
the
cost
of
charging
station
itself.
H
So
the
station
itself
is
going
to
be
about
the
800
000
and
then,
if
the
site
has
to
be
that
substation
has
to
be
upgraded.
That's
where
you
kind
of
get
into
the
one
up
to
the
1.2
million
and
so
with
the
locations
that
we've
talked
with
the
utilities.
If
we
can
install
these
stations
or
get
them
implemented
where
the
substation
does
not
need
to
be
updated,
then
we're
looking
more
at
that
lower
number.
A
S
Just
a
quick
one
is
that:
okay,
yes,
just
very
simply
with
the
RFP
for
the
charge
stations
are,
is
that
small
business
friendly
or
is
it
just
going
to
be?
Corporations
have
the
more
of
the
heads
up
on
this.
G
Those
nuances
are
still
being
developed,
but
we're
open
to
all
comers
that
that
we
don't
have
emphasis
on
one
end
of
the
other.
If
we
were
to
do
all
as
one
proposal,
then
it
would
be
more
lean
to
the
corporation,
but
we
anticipate
a
mixture,
if
not
individual
stations,
at
least
so
there's
don't
anticipate
to
be
leaning,
one
way
or
another
but
open.
Thank
you.
Mr.
A
A
Next,
up
on
the
agenda,
we
have
federal
funds
appropriated
for
tourism,
recovery
and
investment
I
believe
we
had
listed
secretary,
Mike,
Berry
tourism,
Arts
and
Heritage
cabinet
Mike
manjo,
commissioner
same
cabinet.
If
the
two
of
you
will
introduce
yourselves
for
the
record,
please.
A
Raise
Your
Right
hands.
Do
you
swear
from
to
tell
the
truth,
whole
truth
or
nothing,
but
the
truth
I
do
I.
Do.
Thank
you.
If,
if
we'll
just
give
us
a
brief
overview,
I
know,
we've
got
presentation,
materials
that
have
been
handed
out
if
we
can
have
a
brief
overview
and
I
think
we
can
keep
this
relatively
short.
All.
U
Right.
Thank
you.
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
I
just
wanted
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
the
members
of
the
general
assembly
for
the
bipartisan
investment
in
travel
and
tourism.
We
all
know
that
the
pandemic
impacted
the
tourism
sector
a
great
deal
and,
on
behalf
of
the
tourism
cabinet,
and
also,
more
importantly,
our
industry
Partners
out
throughout
the
Commonwealth.
U
We
appreciate
the
historic
and
investment
in
not
only
recovery,
but
it
is
our
belief
that
we
will
come
out
of
this
stronger
as
a
result,
because
the
program
is
administered
through
the
department
of
travel
development.
I
would
turn
it
over
to
the
commissioner
who
will
walk
through
the
policies
and
procedures.
Thank.
V
You
secretary
Barry,
and
thank
you
chairman
Petrie
and
chairman
McDaniel,
for
the
invitation
to
be
here
today.
As
the
secretary
stated,
the
legislation
authorizing
this
funding
for
our
industry
tasked
us
with
developing
and
administering
these
federally
funded
programs,
which
is
a
first
for
our
department
prior
to
the
prior
to
the
pandemic.
The
Department
of
Tourism
had
never
worked
with
or
distributed
federal
funds.
V
As
a
quick
reminder,
there's
a
quick
reminder:
75
million
dollars
was,
was
divided
into
four
pools
or
tranches
of
money
tranche,
1,
15
million
dollars
for
marketing
and
promoting
tourism
in
Kentucky.
These
funds
will
be
used
primarily
by
the
Department
of
Tourism
to
supplement
our
existing
marketing
efforts
and
to
help
us
develop
new
Geographic
and
demographic
Target
markets.
Our
planning
for
these
funds
is
underway.
It
was
delayed
a
little
bit
with
an
agency
review
for
a
marketing
and
advertising
firm.
They
are
a
very
important
strategic
partner.
V
That
review
is
now
complete
and
we
are
Full
Speed
Ahead
in
planning
for
those
that
15
million
dollars
poll
number
two
25
million
dollars
distributed
to
tourism
commissions
for
marketing
communities.
This
tranche
requires
a
10
match
from
the
local
tourism
commissions
and
uses
and
uses
of
the
funds
shall
be
similar
to
the
tourism
marketing
incentive
program,
which
our
agency
currently
administers
poll
number
three
25
million
dollars
distributed
to
tourism
commissions
for
attracting
meetings
and
conventions,
and
poll
number
four
10
million
dollars
to
tourism
commissions
for
multi-jurisdiction
collaborative
destination
marketing.
V
V
Priority
on
these
grants
will
be
given
to
projects
that
have
the
potential
for
long-term
transformational
impacts
in
their
region.
The
balance
of
my
presentation
will
really
focus
on
on
these
pulls
two
through
four.
We
move
too
far
ahead.
A
couple
of
things:
I
want
to
point
out
and
a
few
items.
The
legislation
was
very
specific
in
that
for
tranches.
Two
three
and
four:
the
funds
are
to
be
distributed
to
tourism
commissions
for
tranches.
Two
and
four.
V
However,
the
bill
did
not
provide
a
definition
of
Tourism
commission,
which
became
our
first
priority
working
with
legal
teams
from
tourism,
Arts
and
Heritage
cabinet
and
the
finance
cabinet.
We
created
the
definition
you
see
for
formed
I'm.
Sorry,
you
see
on
the
screen
allowing
commissions
that
are
formed
under
krs-91a
or
defined
as
a
designated
marketing
organization
or
tourism
region
under
our
administrative
regulations
pertaining
to
the
existing
tmip
program.
V
This
is
important
because
not
all
counties
have
tourism
commissions.
We
have
a
few
local
Chambers
of
Commerce
and
fiscal
Courts
for
existence,
for
example
that
have
participated
in
our
tmip
program
for
many
years
that
are
not
tourism
commissions
and
would
not
have
been
eligible
for
these
funds.
This
definite
definition
allows
them
to
participate.
R
V
While
this
was
going
on,
we
also
began
working
on
creating
the
guidelines
and
applications
for
each
of
these
tranches.
This
process
took
many
weeks,
as
you
can
imagine,
and
we
made
sure
the
programs
met
arpa
and
statutory
requirements.
Applicants
had
to
show
the
impact
of
covid
to
their
communities
and
the
local
tourism
economy
on
each
of
the
applications
and
keep
in
mind
if
eligible
the
tourism
commissions
could
apply
for
a
grant
from
each
of
these
tranches.
V
We
also
researched
other
states
around
the
country
to
see
how
they
had
utilized
arpa
funds
and
to
seek
advice,
advice
and
Counsel
on
the
application
process,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
was
invaluable
to
us,
I
reached
out
to
my
counterpart
in
Arizona,
for
instance,
they
had
received
about
100
million
dollars
a
year
prior
so
that
she
was
able
to
help
us
even
came
into
our
industry
conference
to
talk
to
the
industry
about
pitfalls.
What
to
you
know
the
obstacles
to
try
and
avoid.
So
it
was
very
helpful
from
that.
V
As
you
can
see
from
this
timeline,
we
began
work
as
soon
as
possible.
Once
the
bill
was
Final,
we
met
as
quickly
as
possible
to
put
together
a
plan
of
action
and
work
schedule.
We
filed
the
first
emergency
regulation
on
July
1
and
then
held
a
training
webinar
for
our
industry,
Partners
on
July
25th,
providing
an
overview
of
each
tranche
discussing
who
is
eligible
to
apply
the
types
of
expenses
that
were
eligible,
arpa
reporting
guidelines,
application
deadlines.
Etc,
you
see
the
final
line
there
due
to
the
devastating
floods
in
Eastern
Kentucky.
V
We
did
in-person
meetings
that
same
week
with
tourism
industry
Partners
around
the
state
review
each
tranche
in
more
depth
and
answer
any
questions
they
may
have
might
have
on
each
program
and
believe
me,
they
had
a
whole
lot
of
questions.
Tourism
people
are
nothing
if
not
creative,
and
if
we
get
one
more
call
and
says
what
do
you
think
about
this
or
how
about
this
I've
just
said
at
this
point
send
in
your
applications
folks,
but
in
all
honesty
the
meetings
were
very
beneficial
for
our
partners,
but
also
for
us.
V
The
staff,
as
we
were
putting
this
together,
allowed
us
to
answer
their
questions
in
person
and
just,
as
importantly,
listen
to
their
ideas
and
concerns.
What
are
some
of
those
concerns
you
may
ask
well
part
of
the
concern
was
how
much
time
they
would
need
to
plan
and
decide
how
they
would
utilize.
The
funding
keep
in
mind.
V
This
came
at
a
time
when
most
of
their
budgets
for
the
fiscal
year
had
been
set
or
already
approved,
they
needed
to
find
out
where
they
could
get
the
10
match
that
they
had
already
obligated
to
something
else,
and
many
times
they
had
to
go
back
to
their
tourism
commissions
and
ask
for
special
board
meetings
to
amend
their
budget
at
the
local
level.
Sometimes
that
means
you
also
have
to
go
to
your
Fiscal
Court
or
your
city
commission,
or
both,
if
you're,
if
you're
a
City
County
Commission.
V
This
slide
is
kind
of
an
over
cap
or
a
recap
excuse
me
of
all
three
pools
and
where
we
stand
today,
as
you
can
see
on
the
slide,
applications
for
tranche
2,
the
25
million
dollars
for
dmos
closed
on
September
30th,
we
received
94
applications
for
these
funds
tranche
three
applications.
25
million
for
meetings
and
conventions
closed
on
October
10th
and
we
received
19
applications
for
those
funds.
V
Our
staff
is
currently
reviewing
the
applications
to
ensure
they
are
in
compliance
with
our
tmip
arpa
guidelines,
the
KRS
and
working
on
contracts
for
each
of
these
applicants.
Again
part
of
this
process
is
that
each
applicant
will
have
to
sign
a
contract
with
our
cabinet
to
receive
the
fundings.
The
funding,
the
application
deadline
for
tranche
4,
the
multi-jurisdiction
marketing
is
actually
this
Friday
November
4th.
Currently
we
have
five
applications
as
of
this
morning.
I
can
assure
you
I
know
of
one
tourism
commission
who
is
actually
participating
in
five
separate
applications.
V
V
That's
a
very
quick
overview
of
of
where
we
stand
on
the
program,
how
we're
working
with
the
funding
but
I'm
very
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
Thank
you
very
much.
M
Yes,
thank
you
Mr
chairman.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
It's
a
very
interested.
This
is
going
to
work,
just
wonder
if
there's
any
going
to
be
any
provision
for
waving
or
reducing
the
10
match,
and
the
reason
I
asked
that
question
and
a
lot
of
what's
happened
in
Western
Kentucky,
this
past
December,
an
Eastern
Kentucky,
the
flooding
temperature
might
not
be
there,
but
it
shouldn't
actually
exclude
those
folks
from
some
consideration.
So
is
there
any
provision
for
well.
V
We
did
not
have
the
flexibility
to
offer
that
because
the
10
match
was
written
into
the
legislation,
so
we
have
to
follow
how
the
how
the
legislation
is
written.
I
can
tell
you
from
my
review
of
and
don't
hold
this
as
a
hundred
percent
gospel,
but
I
would
say
that
that
has
not
impacted
the
application
process
on
on
the
25
million.
I
can't
speak
to
the
to
the
tranche
4
because
it's
not
closed
yet,
but
on
tranche
2,
the
25
million
directly
to
dmos.
We
did
not
see
any
problem
with
that.
V
M
V
C
V
Keep
in
mind
the
arpa
applications,
the
arpa
funding
excuse
me
are
only
eligible
for
for
tourism
recovery
if
you're
in
existence
prior
to
March
of
of
2020..
So
any
new
organizations
that
may
have
been
established
in
the
last
couple
of
months
or
some
in
there
I,
don't
can't
think
of
any
of
the
top
of
my
head
would
not
have
been
eligible
anyway.
So
if
that's
the
case
that
has
not
been
brought
to
our
attention
of
someone
not
applying
due
to
the
not
being
able
to
do
the
10
I.
M
Appreciate
that
being
arresting
to
monitor
it
over
the
next
year
to
see
where
we
are,
but
certainly
then
10
of
these
funds
are
always
to
get
the
Monies
to
those
in
most
need
and
I.
Think
sometimes,
when
we
structure
is
sayings,
we
do
just
opposite
of
what
we
intend
to
do,
so
we
need
to
watch
it
closely.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair,
thank.
A
V
Sir
pull
two
tranche
2
for
the
dmos
currently
and
I'll,
have
the
exact
figure,
but
I
can
get
it
to
you.
It's
about
a
million
dollars
of
the
25
that
has
not
been
applied
for
for
tranche
3,
the
25
for
meetings,
conventions,
we're
still
reviewing
some
of
those
we've
got
a
couple
questions
on
whether
they
apply
or
not.
It
will
be
significantly
less
than
that
I'm
going
to
estimate
again.
I
can
get
this
number
for.
V
If
you
want
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars,
that's
left
our
plans,
and
this
may
go
back
to
Senator
mayor
this
question
as
well.
Our
plan
right
now
is
to
potentially
do
a
second
round
of
the
funding
sometime
in
the
spring
and
give
first
priority
to
anyone
who
did
not
either
apply
on
the
front
end
or
res
everyone
entrance
to
receive,
because
that
was
a
formula
that
we
had
to
use,
but
not
that
it
go
to
the
same
folks.
If
that
makes
sense,
no.
A
I
understand
separately,
we've
got
pools
two
three
and
four,
and
the
slides
are
treated
separately
from
pool
one
you've
got
the
initial
listing
of
one
two,
three
four
in
a
quadrants
and
then
later
on.
We
talk
about
pull
two
25
million
applications
opened
open
closed
considerations,
don't
have
the
same
designation
on
pool
one
and
I
know
pull
one
is
more
for
marketing,
but
what
what
kind
of
guidelines
are
there
anything
familiar?
Is
it
just
an
open
application
forever?
How's?
What's
the
setup
on
pool
one
pool.
V
One
was
not
an
application
process.
Pull
one
came
to
the
state
to
Market,
so
what
we're
doing
with
that
right
now
is
as
I
referenced
earlier
is
we're
using
a
template
that
we
use
as
a
cares
funding
that
we
received
last
year,
where
we
really
we
had
our
base
funding
program
and
marketing
campaign
set
for
the
year,
and
then
we
went
in
and
looked
at,
okay.
V
What
other
markets
can
we
look
at
whether
that's
new
Geographic
markets,
new
demographic
markets,
Hispanic
travel,
black
travel,
lgbtq
travel,
Etc,
did
research
on
those
and
then
and
then
use
that
money
specifically
in
those
markets.
We
had
a
great
return
on
that
by
the
way
we
had
a
66-1
return
on
our
advertising
awareness
last
year,
which
is
it
sounds
like
I'm
patting
myself
on
the
back
I'm
Pat
and
my
staff
on
the
back.
That's
unheard
of.
Usually,
if
you
get
a
10
or
12
or
15
to
1
that's
a
great
year.
V
A
V
We're
we're
following
basically
our
regular
guidelines,
as
I
was
trying
to
outline
there
on.
W
V
V
A
A
Let's
say
14
days:
do
that
in
two
weeks
and
then
on
four
when
it
closes
out
just
get
it
as
quickly
as
possible.
Sure.
V
Four
four
is
the
one
that's
going
to
be
the
most
interesting
for
us.
It's
as
I
said
our
tourism
friends
are
very
creative
and
especially
with
the
legislation
saying
priority,
giving
to
those
that
are
transformational,
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
guessing
game
understood,
but
we'll
certainly
get
that
information
to
you
very.
A
A
S
A
X
A
W
A
A
W
Ahead,
chair
Petrie,
chair
McDaniel,
members
of
the
A
and
our
Senator
and
and
Representative
members.
Thank
you
all
for
having
us
here
today.
W
Last
time
we
approached
you
all
with
an
invite,
was
I
think
back
in
July
this
year,
so
there
haven't
been
a
lot
of
changes
with
this
50
million,
but
there
there
are
a
few
and
we
were
pleased
and
happy
to
give
you
a
report.
As
you
know,
the
general
assembly
authorized
50
million
dollars
to
improve
our
parks
for
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky,
and
we
want
to
personally
thank
you
all
for
reinvesting
in
our
parks.
W
3.4
million
for
Hospitality
upgrades
this
grid
will
tell
you
what
was
authorized,
what
has
been
transferred
to
projects
and
what
is
remaining
to
be
spent
and
and
we'll
tell
you
and
upcoming,
slides
how
we're
planning
on
spending
those
and
where
that
that
money
is
and
I
think
that's
your
main
objective
here
today
with
Lodge
roof
and
repairs.
W
11.6
authorized
approximately
9.6
transferred
to
projects
and
approximately
1.9
remaining
with
utilities
and
Communications
cabling,
infrastructure
replacement,
pool,
10.8
authorized
approximately
7.6
transferred
to
projects
remaining
3.1
life
safety
system,
upgrades
and
Ada
Improvement
pool
4.1
authorized
3.7
transferred
projects
and
318
000
remaining
Hospitality
pool
3.4
authorized
transferred
to
projects
2.8
million
and
remaining
basically
500
000,
and,
as
you
can
see,
in
that
pool
of
projects,
we've
spent
80
percent
of
the
money,
which
is
which
is
virtually
pretty
good.
In
that
amount
of
time,
wastewater
treatment
and
infrastructure
upgrades
pool
bond
funds
20.1.
W
One
back
yeah,
Lodge,
roof
replacement
and
repairs
pool.
Currently
28
projects
are
underway
are
completed.
There
are
five
remaining
projects
going
out
for
bid
over
the
next
few
months
that
will
deplete
the
roof
pool.
Other
roof
projects
will
be
required
with
Parks
maintenance
pool
accounts
next
slide
in
this
slide.
There's
a
this
will
explain
the
complexity
of
the
projects
our
bill
and
our
ability
to
spend
the
money
process
of
the
procurement
takes
time
and
with
complex
infrastructure
projects.
W
W
W
Currently,
40
Projects
are
underway
and
completed
the
first
bullet
825
000.
This
is
a
great
example
of
we
are
leveraging
this
money
for
a
Federal
Grant
825
000
grid
resilience,
Federal
infrastructure
Grant
in
the
spring,
matched
at
15
percent
for
Western
Kentucky
Parks,
Kentucky
dam,
Village,
Pennyrile,
Forest,
Ken,
Lake
and
Lake
Barkley
estimated
995
000
to
provide
new
water
lines
from
Madison
County
to
Fort
Boonesborough
Park
entrance
estimated
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
upgrade
electric
at
Taylorsville
Lake.
Campground
estimated
900
000
for
Jenny
Wiley
Marina
electrical
upgrades
and
natural
gas
Mainline
repair.
W
Remaining
funds
will
go
to
a
new
pedway
at
Dale,
Hollow,
ADA,
accommodations
for
primitive
cabin,
rentals
and
restrooms
at
Kingdom
Come,
State
Park-
and
this
is
a
great
example
of
our
our
relationships
with
local
governments,
where
we've
developed
those
in
being
able
to
utilize
funds
and
and
work
efficiently.
That
way,
Parks
will
use
additional
funds
from
the
maintenance
pool
for
construction.
Presently,
Partnerships
include
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
Frazier
Grant
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
lwcf
Grant
and
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
Harlan
County,
County,
Fiscal,
Court,
Hospitality
pool
currently
15
projects
are
underway
or
completed.
W
Remaining
funds
will
be
used
immediately
to
purchase
furniture
and
other
soft
goods
to
further
improve
Cottages
that
have
been
renovated
by
Kentucky
Park's
construction
branch,
Park's
impacted
would
be
Buckhorn,
John,
James,
Audubon,
Baron,
River
and
Kentucky
dam
Village
with
that
said,
we'll
entertain
any
any
questions.
Mr
chair.
I
You
Mr
chair
commissioner
Meyer
good
to
see
you
here
again.
We.
T
I
We
all
understand
inflation,
increasing
construction
costs,
labor
costs.
How
has
that
impacted?
The
projects
you've
been
able
to
complete
and
as
as
that,
caused
some
projects
to
be
put
on
hold
because
there
just
wasn't
enough
money
to
go
around
after
these.
Increased
costs
have
come
into
play,
and
could
you
maybe
at
some
point,
get
us
a
list
of
what's
next
on
the
list
that
needs
to
be
funded.
W
X
I
think
there's
one
actually
bidding
today.
One
of
the
Wastewater
projects
we
had
bid
previously
only
received
one
bit
of
sorry,
one
of
the
Wastewater
projects
that
had
gone
out
to
bed
a
couple
months
ago
and
came
in
about
50
over
the
estimate
and
only
received
one
bid
on
it.
X
So
we
have
re-advertised
that
with
vids
coming
in
today,
with
hopefully
more
competition,
and
hopefully
with
better
bids
coming
in
and
with
some
of
the
roofs
we've
just
kind
of
had
to
to
be
slower,
of
putting
them
out
to
bed
to
make
sure
we're
going
to
have
enough
money,
see
what
the
bits
come
in
at
to
make
sure
to
see
what
the
next
project
is.
We're
going
to
be
able
to
do.
A
Thank
you,
representative,
Tipton,
so
understand
this
is
not
a
finger
pointing
this
is
an
issue.
Okay,
so
take
it
that
way.
Please
we've
got
a
50
million
dollar
tranche
of
money
to
improve
parks
that
was
issued
in
the
2019
regular
session.
A
A
There
is
concern
on
my
part
and
I
think
some
others
that
I've
spoken
with
of
there
is
150
million
dollars.
This
was
a
50
million
dollar
tranche.
There
is
a
100
150
million
dollar
tranche
placed
in
the
2022
budget
session,
with
a
report
coming
due
soon
look
forward
to
it.
Yes,
love
the
parks
want
to
make
them
better
want
to
make
them
a
marquee,
so
other
people
want
to
come
to
them
from
all
around
the
world.
A
W
It's
a
great
question
and
makes
sense
great
statement,
but
I
I
do
have
have
your
answer,
for
you
I'll
be
glad
to
hear
it
all
right.
The
the
monies
that
you're
talking
about
is
is
Waste
Water,
Utility
infrastructure
monies.
W
The
complexity
of
these
projects
is
the
reason
why
that
twenty
thousand
dollars
has
there's
17,
not
20
000,
there's
17
million
yet
to
be
spent
or
shown
to
be
spent
right
here
in
this
this
slide
the
procurement
process
that
we
all
go
by
that
protects
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky,
the
general
assembly,
local
governments,
the
the
complexity
of
that
creates
those
problems
of
taking
that
long
to
to
complete
these
projects.
W
Great
example
was
put
before
us
because
we
have
discussed
that
and
we
we
know
that
coming
into
our
presentation
on
the
150
million
ground
level,
infrastructure
projects
are
going
to
take
a
lot
longer
than
above
ground
projects.
If
you
will
it's
just
the
procurement
process.
Is
that
way
the
design
procuring
working
with
local
governments
working
with
the
utilities,
local
utilities
I'm
working
with
the
private
property
owners?
W
It
just
takes
a
while
well
I
mean
a
great
example
is:
is
a
road
building,
a
new
Road
Senator
Douglas
68
in
Jessamine
County
from
the
Inception
of
of
when
that
project
got
started.
It
took
25
years
to
open
that
road.
For
those
reasons
alone,
it
just
big
infrastructure
projects,
take
a
little
bit
longer
than
the
touchy
Philly
things
that
we
can
see,
especially
when
they're
going
in
the
ground
or
you're
dealing
with
the
electric
utility
or
a
Wastewater
utility.
So.
A
It's
just
these
things
are
complex,
there's
a
lot
of
pieces
and
parts
to
it,
but
but
the
concern
remains
this-
that
was
50
million,
we're
about
to
attempt
to
deal
with
150
million,
at
least
that's
the
plan
at
this
point.
So
if
we
stay
on
a
similar
schedule,
we're
a
decade
or
more
out
before
we
get
this
done.
A
W
A
A
G
W
A
All
right,
we
have
updates
Kentucky
employee's
health
plan,
Aon
projections
for
plan
year,
2024.
Linda
Casper,
deputy
secretary
Kentucky,
Personnel
cabinet,
Chris,
I'll.
C
A
Sir
Deputy
Commissioner
Sharon
Burton
commissioner
and
Christy
labus
kehp
actuary
representative
for
Aon,
yes
she's
on
Zoom,
very
good
check
into
biking.
Sure.
Now,
although
I've
said
that
that's
on
the
agenda,
will
each
of
you
introduce
yourselves
for
the
record?
Please,
including
the
one
appearing
remotely?
Okay.
T
A
E
All
right,
Mr,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
appear
before
you
today,
I'm
going
to
forego
my
three
three
page,
each
introduction
of
each
one
of
these
fine
individuals,
but
just
to
say
that
Sharon
Burton
became
commissioner
on
the
on
October
1st,
as
Chris
became
Deputy
Commissioner
on
October
1st
and
we're
we're
thrilled
to
death
to
have
them
in
the
Personnel
cabinet.
Z
And-
and
we
have
a
number
of
background
slides
that
that
we're
just
going
to
skip
through
mindful
of
time,
but
if
there
are
any
questions
on
those
slides
by
all
means,
please
feel
free
to
ask
us
and
I'll
pass
it
to
the
commissioner.
Y
So
so
we
wanted
to
to
keep
this
slide
in,
because
what
this
slide
depicts
is
how
the
kehp
utilizes
its
trust
fund
dollars
and,
as
you
can
see,
95.8
percent
of
trust
fund
dollars
go
to
pay
medical
claims,
Pharmacy
claims
and
health
reimbursement
account
claims
for
prescription,
Administration
expenses
and
medical
administration
expenses
collectively
that
amounts
to
3.7
percent.
Y
While
the
department
of
employee
Insurance
operating
expenses
are
0.5
and
that's
a
fifth
of
a
penny
for
every
kehp
dollar,
that's
spent,
we
can
skip
to
the
coven
slide,
and
so
I
think
this
is
probably
where
you
want
to
be
and
what
you
want
to
hear
about.
But
this
slide
basically
kehp
is
on
the
rebound
from
covid
I.
Think
we
all
remember
that
doctor's
office
is
shut
down
for
a
period
there
and
you
couldn't
go,
but
we
are
on
the
rebound
with
that.
Y
However,
we
are
still
experiencing
covet
expenditures,
and
this
slide
basically
just
is
a
cumulative
covet
expenditure
expenditure
chart
as
of
October
18th
of
22,
and
we
have
experienced
192
million
dollars
in
covid
expenses
to
that
date.
We
were
over
a
period
of
months
through
the
height
of
covid.
Our
covid
expense
expenditures
were
about
10
million
dollars
per
month.
We
they
started
going
down
to
around
five
to
six
million
June
July
and
August
of
this
year,
but
we
did
experience
a
significant
increase
in
September,
so
it
went
back
up
to
10.5
million.
Y
We
don't
have
October
data
completed
yet,
but
it
looks
like
it
might
be
going
down
from
from
that
again
and
so
at
at
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Christy
to
kind
of
talk
about
what
the
the
claims
Trends
are
looking
like
and
what
the
rebound
is
looking
like
and
what
we
may
be
expecting
for.
23
and
24.
T
Thank
you
Sharon
again,
Christy
Davis,
with
aeon
for
the
record.
T
We
then
jump
into
year
to
date,
2022,
which
is
certainly
upward
trending,
as
well
as
we
saw
in
21,
but
but
not
to
the
degree
of
21,
which
was
more
of
a
rebound
year.
If
we
want
to
advance
a
slide
13.
What
we
have
here
is
the
postcovid
rebound
that
I
was
mentioning
on
the
prior
side.
You
can
see
here
that
we
certainly
saw
on
the
total
medical
row
that
last
row
2020
compared
to
2019
was
a
large
reduction
significantly
driven
by
utilization
and,
if
I
take
a
step
back.
T
T
We
continue
to
see
upward
pressures
as
it
relates
to
Medical,
Trend
again
keying
in
on
that
unit
cost
and
the
utilization
we've.
We
have
a
couple
categories
here.
We
want
to
focus
on
as
we
think
about
medical
trends.
We
have
chronic
conditions,
there's
spending
around
chronic
conditions,
especially
as
it
relates
to
long-term
covet
patients.
T
T
While
we
do
see
the
expansion
of
this
and
the
services
are
here
to
stay
Beyond
the
covid
year,
it's
certainly
not
expected
to
drive
a
major
reduction
in
the
overall
claim.
T
T
Next
up
was
not
new
to
this.
This
group
inflation,
economy-wide
inflation,
is
definitely
going
to
drive
up
wages
in
the
healthcare
sector.
In
turn,
drive
up
negotiated
prices
that
we
see
with
the
carriers.
It
will
take
a
few
years
for
that
to
come
into
play.
Those
contracts
are
every
three
to
five
years.
Typically,
they're
not
done
on
an
annual
basis,
so
that
impact
on
trend
is
going
to
be
observed
over
the
the
future.
T
We
do
expect
to
continue
to
monitor
the
medical
claims,
as
well
as
the
provider
negotiations,
frequently
just
to
be
able
to
equip
and
work
and
partner
with
the
kehp
team
if
we
jump
ahead
to
the
net
to
the
next
slide,
I'll
pivot,
to
Pharmacy
Trends,
again,
nothing
new
here,
certainly
upward
pressure
continues
on
the
pharmacy
Trend.
Some
key
areas
are
specialty.
Drugs,
utilization
and
inflation
of
these
drugs
are
the
primary
drivers
of
overall
prescription
drug
trend.
T
Regulation
absolutely
has
an
impact
on
Pharmacy
Trends,
as
we
all
know,
and
we've
seen
that
in
the
newspapers,
anticipation
of
FDA
continuing
to
approve
significant
numbers
of
expensive
specialty,
meds,
primarily,
is
provider
infused
injected.
Think
about
the
the
gene
therapy
drugs
as
well
over
the
next
several
years.
That
will
absolutely
that
pipeline
have
an
impact
on
the
cost
of
Pharmacy
Trends
going
forward.
T
If
we
want
to
advance
to
the
next
slide
here,
we
have
our
plan,
your
2024
projections.
For
you
all.
This
is
what
aeon
works
on
I
do
want
to.
Let
the
group
know
that
we
work
continuously
with
the
kehp
staff
on
these
projections.
We
review
them
quarterly
to
continue
to
monitor
the
plan
experience
as
the
year
progresses.
T
A
Of
what
we're
after
is
this?
The
budget
Bill
actually
had
a
10
percent
increase
in
23
and
a
10
percent
increase
in
24
in
the
in
this
item.
Based
on
the
information
we've
received
from
the
executive
branch,
but
it
looks
like
now,
the
anticipation
is
a
16.5
percent
increase
in
24,
not
a
10,
which
leaves
us
at
a
shortfall
of
eat
if
it
holds
of
either
modifying
benefits,
increasing
cost
or
something
else
I'm
wondering
who
has
identified
that
issue
and
what
are
we
doing
about
it
or
what
are
we
thinking
is
going
to
happen.
Y
So
what
we've
been
advised
is
that
what
was
passed
was
the
10
percent
and
the
16.5
percent,
so
it
seems-
and
so
that's
what
we've
built
our
assumptions
on
if
there
is
a
a
Discord
between
what
was
actually
passed
and
what
we're
using
as
assumptions
it
seems
like.
That
is
something
we
definitely
need
to
get
to
the
bottom
of,
of
course,
very.
A
N
A
A
Track
any
possibility,
that's
going
to
come
down
or
it's
on
track.
T
It
is
on
track,
as
indicated
here.
We
continuously
review
the
projection
chairman
and
what
we
look
at
here.
You
can
see
the
pivot
from
March
to
June.
When
we
get
additional
data,
we
will
look
at
this
in
September.
We
will
look
at
this
at
year
end
as
of
today
with
data
through
June.
We
are
on
track
very.
A
A
A
D
First
of
all,
thank
you
chairman
and
thank
you
all
the
fellow
legislators.
This
has
been
around
for
a
long
time
and
I'll
just
give
you
the
cliff
notes.
You
see
it
on
your
screen
there,
it's
just
a
map
of
what
they
call
the
noise
Corridor,
and
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
that
we
want
to
try
to
get
some
kind
of
a
tax
break
for
folks.
D
So
it's
about
a
17
Mile,
17.4,
Mile
Square
area,
where
we
have
noise
issues
and
through
this
Corridor
here
you
can't
move
to
planes
every
time
you
move
the
planes
from
takeoffs.
It
affects
somebody
else,
so
this
has
been
identified,
probably
20
something
years
ago.
So
what
we're?
What
we're
looking
at
is
this
is
that
what
you
have
is
when
the
airplanes
take
off
from
where
they
from
the
airport
they
fly
towards
Fort
Knox,
and
what
there
is
is
a
restricted
air
space
there.
So
you've
got
to
turn
okay
if
they
flew
right,
bad.
D
The
folks
wouldn't
be
an
issue,
but
you
have
UPS
up
there,
which
is
a
very
valuable
private
partnership
up
there
with
us
in
the
city
of
Louisville
and
in
the
evenings.
You
have
260
events
which
are
either
130
takes
offs,
130
Landings
and
they
start
about
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
what
happens
is
the
thrust
once
they
take
off
and
they
turn
the
thrust
it'll,
it's
unbelievable
to
Rattle
your
homes,
these
folks
homes
and
then
when
they
also
come
in
as
well
too
in
the
landing.
D
So
we're
asking
for
is
this
and
it's
been
around
for
a
long
time,
I'm
the
second
person
to
carry
this
bill.
So
what
we're
doing
we're
looking
at
is
a
five-year
reaching
out
for
five
year
with
a
sunset
Clause
at
the
original
bill
was
like
1.5
million
dollars
and
what
you
do
is
there'll
be
so
much
money
we
give
to
folks
in
per
household
if
they
invested
the
sound
proofing
in
the
house.
D
It's
kind
of
like
putting
up
a
sound
barrier
wall
on
the
interstate
or
something
like
that
and
then
also
money
to
the
business
as
well
in
that
District.
So
it's
somewhere
between
9.99
000,
10
000
people
that
it
affects
okay,
and
so
what
happened
is
that
with
the
five
years?
What
you
would
do
is
that
they
could
apply
for
this.
He'd
have
to
purchase
the
soundproofing
material
and
stuff
and
then
we'll
be
giving
tax
break
and
and
with
the
sunset
clause
in
five
years,
and
also
what
I
would
like
to
do
propose.
D
But
this
is
all
up
to
subject
to
change
as
well
too
it
as
I'd
like
to
have
a
five-year
look
back
same
amount
of
money,
not
adding
any
money,
but
well
it's
only
five
years
or
three
million
would
be
available.
But
originally
we
started
to
look
back
five
years
that
people
have
already
made
that
investment.
D
So
it
wouldn't
be
something
that's
detrimental
to
them
and
what's
interesting
is
that
in
the
in
the
paperwork
that
was
sent
to
me
is
that
this
affects
not
only
the
district
that
I'm
in,
but
it
affects
in
the
house.
It
affects
District,
19,
33,
35,
38
and
and
I
mean
the
house
is
37
35,
40,
41,
42,
46
and
26,
and
I
mentioned
the
elements
in
the
Senate.
So
this
is
something
we
can
all
collaborate
and
work
in
collaboration
help
these
folks
out.
There
I
think
it's
much
needed.
D
D
I
can
give
you
that
I
don't
want
to
bore
you
with
that,
but
I
would
really
I'm
really
thankful
the
opportunity
to
come
and
speak
with
each
and
every
one
of
you
I
would
like
for
us
as
we
move
forward
in
this
next
session
to
see
we
can
do
to
help
those
folks,
because
we
get
phone
calls
every
every
other
day
about
what's
going
wakes,
Folks
up,
and
these
are
hard-working
individuals
get
up
every
morning,
sometimes
if
you're
ever
in
that
position.
I
remember
when
I
was
a
kid
growing
up.
D
We
had
a
train
behind
our
our
property.
You
know
about
four
and
then
just
go
clickety-clack.
You
know
it
puts
you
to
sleep,
you
know,
but
that
plane
when
that
and
that
boom
that
you
hear
when
that
thrust
noise
comes
out,
it
wakes
up
and
it's
very
difficult
for
kids
to
go
back
to
sleep.
It's
very
difficult
for
folks
that
are
working
to
go
back
to
sleep,
and
so
we
can't
do
anything
about
it.
I'm,
trying
to
help
with
the
night
time
when
it
comes,
every
people
are
trying
to
rest.
D
It's
really
caused
a
lot
of
issues
in
those
areas.
Now
I've
had
a
conversation
with
and
worked
with,
representative
Weber
and
also
spoke
with
the
chairman
as
well
too,
about
trying
to
move
his
legislation
forward
so
I.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
I'll
take
any
questions
and
I
look
for
your
partnership
and
help
move
this
forward.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
really
quickly
an
estimate,
so
what's
the
what
would
be
the
total
maximum
fiscal
risk
to
the
state
or
impact
to
the
state?
Well,.
D
What
we
talked
about
is
only
10
000
homes
right
there,
so
initially
what
it
was.
It
was
like
five
thousand
per
house
and
then
fifty
thousand
for
whatever
private
entity,
but
what
I'm
asking
for
is
three
million
to
be
available
or
until
it's
exhausted.
You
know
within
that
five
year
span,
because
we
don't
want
to
miss
anybody.
D
D
To
my
knowledge,
no
okay,
now
let
me
say
this
chairman:
we
we've
been
working
on
this.
For
years
we
have
an
airpoint
noise
mitigation
group
in
Louisville,
and
we've
tried
to
work
on
the
national
level
and
you're
dealing
with
federal
government.
You
know
things
move
slowly
and
so
we've
got
the
pilot.
Association,
that's
been
working
with
us
and
a
lot
of
times.
What
happens
if
I
may
say
this
in
California
have
a
program.
D
So
that's
where
we
get
a
lot
of
that
thrust
from
and
another
thing
comes
into
play
as
well,
too,
is
the
weather.
If
it's
overcast,
there's
clouds
and
stuff
it
affects
the
way
it
comes
in
a
certain
way
the
wind
is
blowing.
It
also
shifts
those
airplanes
a
little
bit,
but
only
thing
I'm
concerned
about
what's
is
on
this
map.
A
D
A
AA
Yes,
thank
you.
I
have
a
question
so
in
in
my
new
District
territory,
I've
picked
up
airport
complaints
for
the
first
time,
so
I
know
how
big
of
a
problem
it
is
I.
Oh
I,
want
to
tell
you
what
the
complaints
sound
like
a
little
bit.
Here's
a
message
from
a
constituent
you
get
these
I
know
constantly.
The
UPS
airplanes
have
been
flying
over
the
top
of
my
house
for
the
last
three
hours
solid.
AA
It
is
5
19
pm
my
windows
are
rattling
and
the
pictures
rattle
on
the
wall,
the
cookie
Tan
on
top
of
my
refrigerator,
is
rattling
Friday
evening,
I,
dozed
off
on
my
couch
and
was
awakened
when
the
couch
started.
Vibrating
and
the
pictures
on
the
wall
started
rattling.
It's
like
living
in
a
war
zone.
This
woman
signs
off
sincerely
going
nuts
on
Parkway
Drive,
so
I
I
know
that
sometimes
people
hear
about
these
problems
or
they
hear
about
loud
bars
on
another
street
that
I
represent
and
they
say
well.
AA
Why
did
you
move
there
or
why?
Don't
you
move
away
and
we
know
that
it
could
be
hard
for
people
to
relocate,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
you
representative
Donahue,
to
talk
about
how
the
problem
has
has
started
to
Encompass
different
people,
because
when
the
airport
expanded
there
were
some
Provisions
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
the
city
or
the
airport
that
that
provided
some
financial
assistance
for
folks
to
noise
guard
their
homes,
but
as
e-commerce
has
grown
and
UPS
has
grown
in
Louisville
the
problem.
The
noise
has
expanded.
D
D
What's
happened
is
that
a
lot
of
people
invested
like
the
Eastern
Parkway,
which
is
not
my
district.
You
know
people
have
reimbursed
and
it's
been
a
reincere
urgents
of
those
communities
out
there
and
what's
happened
is
a
lot
of
people.
Invest
in
those
homes
are
wonderful,
beautiful
homes
and
when
this
plan
first
started
about
30
years
ago,
when
they
started
changing
things
in
Louisville
airport,
they
never
first,
they
matter
of
fact.
They
moved
subdivisions
to
be
honest
with
because
of
the
flight
path
there,
and
so
what
happened?
They
never
anticipated.
What
would
happen?
D
The
planes
have
gotten
bigger,
more
and
more
Commerce
going
on.
So
that's
really
a
big
issue
so
giving
these
people
the
sound
of
rest
in
the
evening
is
what
we
have
to
work
forward
to
look
forward
to
so
what
happens?
Is
that
just
to
reinvestment
in
the
community,
because
you
every
one
of
us
here
where
I
live
in
my
area,
I,
could
live
anywhere,
but
I
love
the
neighborhood
I
live
in
I'm,
not
going
to
move
and
matter
of
fact
on
a
personal
note
30
years
ago,
when
they
decided
to
build
new
runways.
D
It
actually
used
to
come
over.
My
house
and
I
experienced
the
whole
same
thing.
These
folks
did
too,
but
but
just
moving
the
new
runways,
which
you
did
I
can't
I,
don't
have
any
issues
anymore.
Every
now
and
occasionally,
depending
on
what
the
weather
is
I,
do
have
some
flights
over,
but
I'm,
not
the
person
that
I'm
trying
to
help
here.
So
that's
what's
happened.
Is
that
these
folks?
Could
you
can
stay
in
somebody's
yard?
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
thank
you,
representative,
Donahue
and
I
I
can,
of
course,
I.
Don't
live
closer
to
an
airport,
but
my
son
lives
in
Nashville
and
it's
it
happens
to
at
his
house,
he's
very
close
to
the
airport.
It
happens
at
his
house,
but
my
question
is:
has
there
been
studies
done
that
people
actually
put
these
whatever
you're
talking
about
putting
into
these
homes?
Is
that
does
that
actually
cut
down
the
noise.
D
It
does
it
does
and
what's
happened
if
I
may
say
this,
some
people
have
already
done.
That's
why
I
said
I
want
to
have
a
five-year
look
back:
okay,
some
people
have
went
in
and
insulated
their
homes
and
they
put
a
soundproofing
Windows,
Believe,
It
or
Not
technology
has
really
caught
up
in
soundproofing
doors.
It's
amazing
you
step
in
the
home.
You
can't
even
hear
it
now
the
vibration
and
stuff
like
that,
depending
on
where
that
I
can't
stop
that.
Well,
we
can't
stop
that,
but
we
can
sure
give
them
a.
D
Does
work
and
the
only
reason
I
increase
the
original
bill
was
1.5
million
only
reason.
I
said
we
need
to
move
up
like
if
our
previous
presentation
was
made
because
of
cost.
You
know
things
are
cost
I've
done
some.
You
know
remodeling
in
my
home
and
it's
amazing
what
regular
Windows
just
cost
versus
soundproofing
windows.
Thank.
A
It
sir,
thank
you
very
much.
Oh
we're
not
finished
yet
now
I
will
do
want
to
make
an
announcement
on
well.
First
correspondence
received
on
the
agenda.
Eight
and
nine
feel
free
to
inquire,
Jennifer,
Hayes
and
inquire
of
Jenny
Bannister
regarding
those
they're
always
invigorating
reading
and
then
I
want
to
do.
I
do
want
to
make
this
announcement.
There
was
a
report
that
was
due
on
November
the
1st
2022
from
the
Personnel
cabinet,
so
as
required
by
House
Bill
one.
A
The
personal
cabinet
secretary
has
performed
a
review
of
KRS
chapter
18
A
the
Merit
system
and
provided
a
report
and
recommendations
for
changes
to
the
Merit
system.
The
report
was
received
on
November
1st,
in
compliance
with
the
budget
Bill
language
and
was
also
submitted
to
the
interim
joint
committee
on
state
government,
which
I
very
much
appreciated,
because
that
is
the
committee
of
jurisdiction
that
would
take
up
this
issue
for
consideration.