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A
Before
we
call
the
road
remind
everybody
to
put
your
phone
on
silent
or
stun
and
and
Madam
clerk,
would
you
please
call
the
roll.
C
E
A
A
We
do
have
a
quorum
entertaining
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
last
minute.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
I
post
motion
carries
before
we
start
our
agenda
today,
I'd
like
to
take
a
moment
of
personal
privilege
today
marks
the
last
meeting
for
one
of
our
senate
members
and
three
of
our
house
members
that
have
served
this
committee
Faithfully
for
many
years.
Our
Senate
member
who's
retiring
is
senator
Paul,
Hornback
Paul's,
not
here
today,
but
I
want
to
thank
him
for
his
dedication
and
service
to
the
transportation
committee.
A
A
He
is
a
been
a
very,
very
good
member
of
this
outstanding
member
of
this
committee
and
an
outstanding
senator
for
for
many
years,
and
we
will
miss
Paul
Hornback
and
to
him
godspeed
and
best
wishes,
as
he
I
guess,
surrounds
this
tractor
off
into
the
sunset
I'll
yield
to
representative
or
Upchurch,
to
mention
our
three
house
members
who,
who
are
retiring.
F
Thank
you
Mr
chairman.
We
have
Regina
Huff,
South,
Santoro
and
Susan
Westrom,
who
are
retiring
Regina's,
not
here,
but
kind
of
like
Senator
Hornback.
You
know
she
keeps
her
opinions
to
herself.
C
F
We've
all
grown
to
know
and
love
representative
Huff,
since
she
has
served
in
the
house.
We
wish
her
well
in
her
Endeavors
after
she
leaves
and
rides
off
into
the
sunset
I'm
sure
we
will
probably
hear
more
from
her
afterwards
representative
Westrom,
it's
personally,
it's
been
an
honor
serving
with
you.
F
You
and
I
were
elected
at
the
same
time,
set
together
during
freshman
orientation
back
when
photography
was
done
here
at
the
lrc
with
black
and
white
pictures,
and
so
we
have
progressed
in
quite
a
ways
so,
but
you
will
be
missed
and
and
congratulations
on
your
retirement
I'm
sure
you
will
enjoy
it
a
lot
more
than
putting
up
with
some
of
the
shenanigans
up
here
and
lastly,
and
certainly
not
least,
is
representative
Sal
Santoro.
F
Sal
you're
going
to
be
missed,
just
to
say
the
least,
he's
going
to
be
missed,
I,
don't
know
of
anyone
who
has
ever
had
an
unkind
word
to
say
about
Sal.
Everyone.
C
F
Sal
can
give
it
as
well
as
he
can
take
it,
and
Sal
is
just
one
of
those
special
unique
individuals
that
everyone
has
grown
to
love
during
his
tenure
up
here
and
his
advice.
His
knowledge
of
not
only
just
the
legislative
process
but
transportation
in
general
I
think
is,
is
very
valuable
not
only
to
this
body,
but
anything
that
he
sets
out
to
do
in
the
future
and
Sal.
We
are
truly
going
to
miss
you
and
your
service
godspeed.
A
Thank
you,
representative
of
church
and
and
I
also
have
served
with
all
three
of
the
house:
members
who
are
retiring,
representative,
Huff,
representative,
Westrom
and
representative
Santoro,
and,
and
it's
been
indeed
an
honor
and
a
privilege
to
serve
with
you
all
and
and
log
a
lot
of
hours
over
the
years
with
with
sale,
and
he
he's
been
a
a
really
a
mentor
to
me,
as
in
the
transportation
committee
and
and
I
will
I
do
appreciate
all
your
work
and
we'll
miss
you
leave
us
your
phone
number
with
your
new
number,
make
sure
we
have
it.
A
Okay,
our
first
order
of
business
today
is
the
long
awaited.
I'll
say
it
again:
long
awaited
update
and
implementation
of
the
new,
automated
vehicle
information
system
kavis.
So,
if
you
all,
would
please
Matt
good
one
and
Heather
y'all,
please
come
and
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
the
floor
is
yours:
yeah
turn
your
microphone
on
did,
did
Matt
decide
not
to
attend
with
his
day
he's
here.
Oh
there
he
is.
G
Thank
you
we're
here
today
to
tell
you
guys
about
the
campus
program.
The
update
today
and
if
you
don't
already
know,
kavis
is
a
system
that
will
replace
the
Avis
mainframe
system.
This
project
is
about
modernizing
decommissioning,
Avis,
modernizing
the
processes
and
bringing
some
consistency
throughout
the
state
in
the
Cava
system,
John's
going
to
give
the
majority
of
the
presentation,
but
we're
all
here
for
questions.
H
First
and
foremost,
I
do
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
significant
achievements
we've
made
over
the
course
of
the
program.
We've
implemented,
seven
of
the
eight
key
features
and
modules
of
the
kavis
program,
going
all
the
way
back
to
May
of
2015,
with
the
print
on
demand,
where
we
really
modernized
how
we
intake
paper
and
turn
that
into
digital
usable
access
within
our
system.
H
Web
renewal,
implementing
disabled
placards,
our
Statewide
point
of
sale,
which
was
the
first
point
of
sale
that
was
actually
in
every
County
across
the
Commonwealth,
which
everybody
uses
for
a
standardized
process
for
their
point
of
sale,
solution,
building
out
the
vehicle
Foundation,
which
is
setting
up
the
entire
Commonwealth
to
be
successful,
utilizing
this
system
and
whenever
we
start
to
go,
live
this
coming
year.
H
Decommissioning
and
implementation
of
our
inventory
solution
and
then
one
of
the
biggest
achievements
lately
was
the
implementation
of
our
flat
plate
project.
The
next
and
last
module
of
the
canvas
program
is
the
vehicle
module
where
we
are
dealing
with
trucks
and
cars,
trailers,
mobile
homes
and
other
key
vehicle
types
on
the
right
hand,
side
I'm
actually
going
to
go
into
another
slide.
That's
going
to
show
this
in
a
bigger
format,
so
you
all
can
see
our
key
deliveries
over
a
few
months.
H
Right
now,
we're
still
in
a
development
cycle
where
we're
Gathering
and
defining
and
refining,
and
designing
and
developing
the
key
requirements
for
us
to
launch
all
of
the
remaining
vehicle
types.
This
should
take
approximately
between
now
and
the
summer
of
2023
to
finalize
all
of
that
development.
H
Also,
we
plan
on
doing.
What's
called
a
uat
or
a
user
acceptance
testing
where
we
bring
in
end
users
cyclically
throughout
our
incremental
and
iterative
development
and
have
them
use
the
system
and
they
say
yes.
This
is
exactly
what
I
need
to
do,
my
job
or
no,
and
if
it's
a
no,
we
take
that
back
refine
it
fix
it
and
then
send
it
back
out
for
them
to
review.
Again.
H
That's
happening
around
the
Q2
time
frame
right
as
we
get
ready
to
prepare
for
cut
over
during
Q3
we're
looking
at
a
cut
over
timeline
where
we
can
start
decommissioning
the
Legacy
application,
Avis
and
then
start
turning
on
canvas
so
that
everybody
can
start
using
it
full-time
after
we
launch
there's
also
a
time
frame
of
stabilization.
So
this
the
clerks
have
been
using
this
Ava
System
since
the
late
70s
and
early
80s,
so
they've
been
ingrained
in
using
that
Mainframe
application.
H
There's
a
lot
of
learning
a
lot
of
understanding
and
a
lot
of
change,
and
we
understand
that
so
between
the
training
and
awareness
and
then
a
stabilization
period,
where
we're
going
to
have
our
team
fully
devoted
to
providing
support
and
engagement
for
those
that
need
the
support
and
help,
while
they're
serving
the
citizens
of
the
Commonwealth.
That
should
take
approximately
two
to
three
months
to
to
become
stable
and
then
everything
should
be
working
as
it
should.
At
that
time.
H
H
The
impact
was
a
shift
error,
a
productivity
loss
for
our
team
in
delivery
and
then
that
directly
translated
into
a
timeline
shift
right
now
we're
trying
to
make
up
that
time
through
different
aspects
of
bringing
in
additional
people
from
other
teams
onto
our
team,
engaging
them
into
the
development
cycle,
making
sure
that
they're
ready
to
deliver,
just
as
the
previous
members
did,
and
we've
already
implemented
that,
and
then
we
came
up
with
a
new
date
of
Summer
2023
so
that
we
can
actually
deliver
a
product
that
can
be
used
and
will
be
stable
and
and
available
for
the
county
clerks
to
use.
H
There
could
be
some
things
that
we
need
to
actually
take
out
of
scope.
There
could
be
a
limited
impact
on
functionality
that
that
maybe
happens
every
once
in
a
while
they're
called
like
edge
cases
or
or
they
happen
one
out
of
a
million
times.
H
Another
key
assumption
for
the
summer
of
2023
is
maintaining
the
current
scope
in
which
we
have
to
deliver
to
so.
If
that
grows,
then
the
timeline
could
grow
and
then
also
keeping
the
same
people
that
we
have
on
the
team.
We
have
an
amazing
team,
they're,
amazingly
talented,
keeping
those
people
on
the
team.
All
the
way
through
the
end
of
the
project
will
be
key
for
our
success.
H
Currently,
the
caves
projected
allocation
is
19
million,
946
dollars
and
665
dollars.
We
spent
almost
all
of
that
budget,
except
for
about
1.1
million
dollars,
and
we
spend
most
of
that
money
on
the
labor
and
talent
of
this
team,
and
this
is
the
life
cycle
of
the
budget.
A
That's
it
that
sales
sounds
good.
It
like
I,
said
it's
finally
going
to
happen
that
this
is
fully
implemented,
and
that's
that's
great
one
of
the
couple
questions
and
looking
around
see
if
we
have
any
anyone
else
jump
in
here,
but
of
course
on
the
on
the
license,
plate,
I
understand
the
personalized
or
the
specialty
plates.
A
G
That
is
correct.
The
creation
of
specialty
plates
is
definitely
simplified
in
the
Cava
system
versus
the
way
it
is
in
Avis
and
like
all
the
new
specialty
plates
that
are
slated
to
be
live.
I
think
with
the
kavis
implementation,
will
all
go
in
at
one
time
and
be
available
to
citizens
at
that
time.
Do.
A
I
My
name,
my
name,
is
and
I'm
the
director
for
the
motor
vehicle
licensing.
We
have
approximately
seven
new
applications
for
especially.
I
I
It's
great,
as
I
just
mentioned,
we
have
approximately
seven
to
eight
organizations
that
I
apply
for
new
special
license
plates.
They
have
been
approved
and
we're
just
waiting
for
the
implementation
of
Curves.
In,
as
you
stated
in
the
past,
we
usually
require
2500
signatures
with
a
new
process.
None
of
those
signatures
are
required
also
in
the
past.
When
we
used
to
implement
this
through
the
every
system,
it
was
causing
Transportation
cabinets,
almost
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
implement
one
organization
special
plate
with
the
new
KV
system.
I
A
What
were
the,
what
would
the
I
guess
restrictions
for
these
new
plates?
A
What
organizations
can
do
do
that
I
mean
I'm
I've,
understood
it
in
the
past
and
that
2500
2500
plate
or
the
2500
signatures
really
restricted
the
number
of
requests
that
you
had
just
curious
how
this
will
work
if
I
wanted
to
start
to
say
in
centuro
fan
club
and
sell
license
plates?
How
many?
How
would
that
work.
I
You,
first
of
all,
you
have
to
qualify
as
your
organization
541c,
and
the
only
requirement
now
is
once
the
plates
are
produced.
The
threshold
is
500,
so
you
are
required
to
maintain
500
registrations
if
second
year
and
that
500
is
not
maintained.
Then
your
your
plate
will
cease
to
exist,
but
there's
not
a
requirement
except
applying
for,
and
we
make
sure
that
the
design
of
the
license
plate
meets
the
standard
for
the
Anvil
and
the
third
roads,
so
the
25
in
the
past.
I
I
A
My
question:
thank
you.
On
insurance
I
know,
we've
talked
for
years
that
that
when,
when
this
was
implemented,
it
would
help
us
with
those
who
did
not
have
insurance
the.
How?
How
will
this
implementation
will
that
help
with
the
finding
out?
Who,
who
has
what
vehicles
have
Auto
have
insurance
and
which
ones
do
not?
The.
I
G
When
canvas
is
implemented,
it
will
be
integrated
with
the
current
Insurance
system.
That's
in
place.
One
of
the
projects
that
will
be
on
the
top
on
the
pipeline
after
kavis
is
implemented
is
to
then
replace
the
insurance
system
with
something
more
real
time,
probably
through
a
third-party
service
provider,
a
vendor
that
can
help
us
bring
all
the
data
in
process
the
data
more
quickly,
and
you
know
improve
that
that
process
overall.
A
A
J
We
would
like
to
change
the
definition
of
the
word
Road
in
KRS
177.905
in
this
definition
is
referenced
in
all
of
our
recycler
statutes.
The
current
definition
of
Road
means
any
County
state,
federal
or
limited
access
Highway,
including
Bridges
and
Bridge
approaches.
J
J
Well,
those
will
be
relegated
to
to
local
jurisdiction.
Currently,
we,
we
have
some
local
jurisdictions
that
already
have
ordinances
on
recyclers,
some
of
which
are
more
strict
than
ours,
but
our
recommendation
would
be
for
municipalities
to
implement
standards
similar
to
what
we
have
in
the
law
today.
Okay,.
K
J
We're
talking
about
junkyards,
so
it
there's
a
like
if
any
location
that
has
like
a
certain
minimum
amount
of
wrecked
cars,
Salvage
material
scrap
metal
that
that
kind
of
thing.
K
So
you
won't
be
able
to
basically
see
it
from
the
road
does
this
have
to
do
with
the
highways
beautification
act
that
yeah.
J
Okay,
yeah
our
current
law.
We
we
have
jurisdiction
over
all
of
those
Road
tops
if
the
recyclers
within
a
certain
distance
of
the
roadway
I
believe
it's
a
thousand
feet,
and
if
it
can
be
seen
from
the
roadway,
then
the
transportation
cabinet
currently
has
jurisdiction
over
those
recyclers.
J
A
You're,
welcome
and
and
in
full
disclosure.
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
this
issue.
There
was
legislation
filed,
I,
think
last
year
in
Keiko,
and
the
league
of
cities
have
had.
You
know,
wanted
clarification.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
do
this.
We
do
it
the
right
way
and
basically,
what
it
does
it
it.
The
transportation
cabinet
will
have
oversight
on
those
that
are
on
that
national
highway
system.
All
other
recyclers,
AKA
junk
yards
will
be
under
local
control
and
and
over
oversight
by
the
cities
and
counties
where
they're
located.
Is
that
correct.
A
L
M
You
Mr
chairman
and
following
up
on
what
the
representatives
just
said,
my
concern
in
Eastern
Kentucky
is
I
thought
there
was
already
some
sort
of
law
there
that
it
had
to
be
a
fencing
that
would
protect
the
view
of
the
scrap
yard
or
junkyard
that
you're
talking
about
my
concern
would
be
then
you're
backing
up
and
leaving
it
as
local
control,
and
it
was
so.
M
It
wouldn't
be
a
state
issue,
because
we've
recently
had
a
state
issue
on
business
and
119
going
to
Harlan
where
they
sit
on
the
side
of
the
road.
B
M
They
were
I
believe
fined
pretty
hefty,
for
they
say
disturbing
the
the
roadway.
Are
you
passing
this
down
to
local?
Are
you
still
holding
your
ground
on
the
state
level?
Could
you
kind
of
elaborate
on
who's
going
to
be
doing
what
well.
J
For
it
sounds
like
the
case
you're
talking
about
they,
they
had
items
on
our
right
away,
and
so
the
transportation
cabinet
would
continue
to
pursue
any
recycler
that
encroached
on
air
right
away.
Just
like
we
would
any
type
of
encroachment.
But
otherwise,
if
it's
on
their
property
yeah
it
would.
It
would
go
down
to
local
jurisdiction
and
our
current
statutes
have
screening
requirements,
which
is
usually
fencing,
and
we
would
recommend
that
the
local
jurisdictions
follow.
M
Follow
up
Mr
chairman,
so
could
you
tell
me
what
the
penalty
will
be
if
this?
If
this
is
done
here,
what
you're
asking
for
the
penalty
phase
for?
Does
that
get
passed
on
to
local
jurisdiction
to
be
subject
to
the
penalties,
or
will
the
state
still
enact
be
in
the
enforcer.
J
J
J
Today,
all
of
the
county
roads,
all
state
federal
routes,
are
under
jurisdiction.
If
we
change
the
definition
to
only
routes
within
national
highway
system,
then
some
of
the
federal
routes
would
be
under
local
jurisdiction.
A
J
A
You
this
is
a
priority
piece
of
legislation
from
the
transportation
cabinet
and
we
will
properly
vet
this
we'll
make
sure
that
everyone
has
a
information
on
what
recyclers
in
your
district
will
be
covered
and
which
ones
want
we'll
make
sure
that
caco
and
League
of
cities
that
they
that
they
weigh
in
on
this.
So
we
will
vet
this
and
make
sure
that
it's
that
we're
not
doing
something
that
would
cause
a
lot
of
consternation
at
the
local
level.
A
Seeing
no
further
questions.
Thank
you
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
you
during
session.
O
I
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
get
it
off.
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
the
invitation.
Today.
I
am
representative
James
Allen
Tipton
from
house
District
53
for
those
of
you
who
this
sounds
familiar.
This
is
the
third
time
I
have
presented
this
proposed
piece
of
legislation
before
the
interim
joint
committee
on
transportation,
and
if
you
happen
to
serve
on
the
house
Banking
and
insurance
committee,
we
presented
it
for
a
discussion
only
in
the
22
session,
but
as.
H
O
O
There
was
also
a
Mason-Dixon
poll
that
was
done
here
in
Kentucky
from
January
19th
through
22nd
of
this
year
and
81
percent
of
the
people
who
responded
to
that
poll,
supported
requiring
drivers
to
use
hands-free,
Voice,
Command
Technology
to
make
calls
and
communicate
and
88
percent
said
they
would
be
very
likely
to
obey
a
hands-free
law.
Now,
in
the
past,
I've
had
people
with
me,
Miss
Jennifer
Smith,
who
is
an
National
Advocate,
very
passionate
about
this.
O
O
Obviously,
at
the
Spencer
County
Farm
Bureau
meeting
last
week,
the
agency
manager
gave
his
report
and
he
talked
about
the
losses
that
we've
had
here
in
Kentucky
and
even
in
Motor
Vehicles,
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
motor
vehicle
accidents,
so
just
real
briefly
Mr,
chairman
and
I-
did
make
my
pres
I
did
have
my
little
prop
here
in
my
Chevy
Silverado
pickup
truck
I
have
three
cup
holders
in
the
center.
O
This
is
in
my
Center
cup
holder
and
usually
about
the
only
time
I
use
this,
for
is
when
I've
got
my
maps
on
if
I
don't
know
where
I'm
going
I
can
kind
of
keep
up
with
my
directions
on
this,
because
I've
also
got
Bluetooth
technology.
O
In
my
truck
for
those
of
you
who
don't
have
that
there's
this
little
thing
here,
you
can
buy
it's
not
very
expensive,
put
in
your
ear
pair
it
to
your
phone
and
you
do
not
have
to
have
a
phone
in
your
hand
to
talk
while
you're
driving,
but
you
should
have
in
your
packet
the
proposed
legislation
for
23,
it's
br
22.,
and
that
first
section
there.
O
O
You
have
to
have
passed
certain
tests,
you
have
to
have
insurance,
there
are
qualifications
and
with
that
privilege
comes
loss,
and
probably
the
most
prominent
law
that
is
related
to
this
I'd
say,
would
be
the
seat
belt
law.
If
my
friend
former
representative
Jimmy
Stewart,
were
here,
he
might
have
something
to
say
about
that,
but
he's
he's
he's
he's
back
home,
she's
trading
cattle
the
day
I
imagine
but
after
the
seat
belt
law,
people
confirmed
conformed
and
I
think
what
this
legislation
is
about.
It's
about.
O
It's
not
meant
to
be
punitive,
it's
about
changing
people's
habits
and
if
I
were
to
ask
each
and
every
one
of
you
as
you
drive
up
and
down
the
highways,
If
You
observe
the
other
drivers
on
the
road
with
you.
How
many
of
them
do
you
see
with
a
phone
in
their
hand,
they're
not
paying
attention
to
what
they're
doing
and
if
I
asked
each
of
us
have
you
been
guilty
of
doing
something?
Maybe
not
so
safe
with
an
electronic
device.
O
I
can
raise
my
own
hand
there,
since
I've
worked
on
this
legislation,
I'm
much
better
about
that.
But
again
it's
a
privilege.
You
should
have
a
I
asked
staff
to
put
together
a
one-pager
that
you
should
have
in
your
summary
and
I'll
just
go
through
that
it
just
expands
the
the
term.
Personal
communication
device
include
things
like
computers
and
why
would
we
include
computer?
Several
years
ago,
I
had
a
friend
of
mine
was
talking
about
driving
to
Florida
late
at
night
and
I
said
well.
O
How
in
the
world,
did
you
stay
awake
driving
all
night?
He
said
I
was
watching
movies
on
my
computer,
while
I
was
driving
folks,
people
do
silly.
Things
includes
computers,
tablets,
laptops
telephones
or
any
other
substantially
similar
wireless
device.
It
defines
what
a
standalone
electronic
device
is.
O
So
if
a
driver
pulls
over
to
the
side
of
a
drove
of
of
the
roadway
or
someplace
and
they're
stopped
in
a
safe
location,
this
legislation
is
not
going
to
apply
to
them
and
often
when
I've
had
to
make
important
phone
calls,
I've
actually
pulled
off,
because
maybe
I
need
to
look
up
some
information
or
reference,
something
so
that's
always
an
option.
O
It
prohibits
the
handheld
use
of
a
device
and
the
use
of
electronic
device
to
stream
record
or
broadcast
video
and
I
know
many
times
I've
seen
on
Facebook
and
social
media.
Somebody
will
video
something
that
they
see
while
they're
driving
down
the
road-
and
you
know
it's
interesting
to
see
that,
but
I've
often
thought
to
myself.
O
Man
I'm
glad
they
didn't
have
an
accident,
while
they
were
doing
that,
it
would
allow
the
pressing
of
a
single
button
to
activate
deactivate
or
initiate
a
feature.
If,
if
one
of
you
were
to
call
my
phone
right
now,
I
could
push
one
button
turn
that
on
I
could
activate
that,
so
that
I
could
talk
to
you
at
this
options
available
most
new
technology,
as
I
said
on
my
truck.
O
If
I
wanted
I
made
three
phone
calls
on
the
way
to
Frankfurt
this
morning,
I
never
touched
my
phone
I
use
the
technology
that's
available,
my
truck
and
that
technology
is
growing
and
becoming
more
available.
All
the
time
allows
the
use
by
voice-based
communication
on
a
global
positioning
or
navigation
system
allows
you
to
automatically
convert
a
voice-based
communication
to
be
sent
as
a
message
in
written
form.
Now
real,
be
honest
on
my
truck
when
I
get
a
text
message,
it
alerts
me
right
in
the
center
of
my
truck.
O
O
Site
I
did
I
did
but
I'm
gonna
be
honest,
I'm
I,
hadn't
figured
out
yet
how
to
verbally
send
the
text
message
to
somebody
so
I'll
wait
till
later
to
send
that
to
them.
It
does
allow
the
use
of
your
communication
you're
filing
in
an
emergency
situation.
Another
aspect
of
this
anyone
under
18
years
of
age
would
not
be
allowed
to
hold
your
phone
for
any
reason
whatsoever,
except
in
an
emergency
situation
or
to
use
the
Integrated
Systems
in
their
vehicle
because
of
safety
at
that
age.
O
It
does
provide
for
one
change
from
last
year's
bill
that
I
had
last
year's
Bill
allow
for
a
courtesy
warning
of
three
months
period.
I
extended
that
for
six
months
and
this
year
in
this
year's
legislation
until
January,
1st
2024,
so
an
officer
could
issue
a
warning
to
people,
because
this
is
an
educational
process.
I
don't
want
this
to
be
punitive.
There
are
punitive
elements
to
that.
There
are
fines
for
first
second
and
third
offenses.
There
is
a
provision
where
someone
can
lose
three
points
off
their
license.
O
If
they're
driving
doing
this
in
a
work
zone
or
a
school
zone
and
also
if
it
caused
an
accident
I'm
sure
most
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
legislation,
that's
kind
of
a
little
summary
of.
What's
in
it
and
I'll,
be
happy
to
entertain
any
questions
that
anyone
has
Mr
chairman.
N
O
If
you're
just
give
you
an
example,
Mr,
like
my
I,
didn't
hear
the
Senator's
call,
but
if
I'd
heard
it
I
could
have
pressed
one
button
and
answered
that
phone,
but
the
what
the
law
says
is
you
cannot
hold
a
phone
in
your
hand
or
support
it
with
any
part
of
your
body.
That's
what
why
and
use
that
phone
while
you're
driving,
but
it
does
not
prevent
you
from.
If
you
have
your
phone
in
a
situation
like
this
I
know
some
of
them,
you
can
put
them
on
the
air
conditioner
vent.
O
N
And
additional
questions
Mr
chairman,
if
we.
N
But
it
doesn't
affect
anybody,
that's
reaching
down
and
getting
their
Coke
drinking.
It.
O
O
The
the
only
thing
we
have
current
laws
on
this
on
reckless
driving
is
somebody's
doing
something
recklessly
I.
Once
dated
a
girl,
I
was
coming
to
the
girls
Church
Softball
League
and
she
told
me
she
changed
while
she
into
her
uniform.
While
she
was
driving
that
would
be
reckless
driving,
but
it
does
not
and
I
know
we
had
this
conversation
last
year.
O
C
O
Like
in
my
truck,
my
phone
is
paired
to
my
truck.
Somebody
calls
it
it
lets
me
know.
Somebody's
ringing
I
can
push
a
button
on
the
my
steering
wheel
and
I.
Can
we
will
have
that
conversation
if
I
want
to
call
somebody
I
can
initiate
that
from
the
push
of
one
button
on
my
steering
wheel,
using
voice
command
and
tell
them
who
I
want
to
call,
and
sometimes
it
has
trouble
with
my
accent-
calls
somebody
else,
but
we
can
work
with
that.
N
If,
if
the
bill
should
pass,
you've
got
the
penalties,
and
you
did
mention
the
seat
belt
law,
which
I
was
a
person?
Would
the
gentleman
that
initially
had
it
put
together
and
I
insisted
that
they
put
a
fine
payment
and
people
can
mail
it
in.
C
N
You
be
inclined
to
take
all
this
great
punishment
of
points
on
your
license
and
all
that
and
allow
people,
that's
traveling
through
our
state
to
get
a
ticket
and
send
a
fine
in
and
not
have
to
come
to
court
and
all
that
stuff.
That
would
add,
lost
jobs
and
well.
N
The
gas
prices
Joe
Biden's
gas
prices
coming
back
from
Ohio
to
go
to
court
in
Kentucky
and
all
that,
would
you
be
a
amenable
amenable
to
that
amendment
to
clear
up
all
those
things,
so
they
can
just
mail
in
a
check
pay
their
fine.
If
the
bill
should
pay.
O
D
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
wanted
to
ask
you
I
know:
Tennessee
already
has
a
law
like
this?
Of
course,
I
only
live
22
miles
from
the
state
line,
travel
in
Tennessee
quite
a
bit,
and
you
cannot
have
your
phone
in
your
hand
there
at
all.
Do
you
happen
to
know
what
their
penalties
are
in
regards
to
that.
O
D
D
It's
it's
not
that
hard.
Once
you
get
a
kid
that
you,
you
have
to
teach
you
so,
but
anyway,
I
I
was
just
curious.
I
mean
I
always
have
to
do
that.
I
travel
through
Tennessee,
quite
a
bit
and
I
have
to
make
sure
that
I'm
very
careful
so
I've
gotten
in
the
habit
of
doing
that,
and
it's
not
that
hard.
You.
O
Said
the
key
you
said
the
key
word,
their
habit
and
I
think
what
we
have
is.
We
have
a
lot
of
drivers
that
have
developed
bad
habits
and
the
use
of
these
phones.
You
know
back
when
the
original
texting
law
came
in
that
we
had
texting
now,
we've
got
Facebook,
we've
got
Instagram,
we've
got
Twitter,
we've
got
Tick
Tock
and
probably
a
thousand
more
I,
don't
even
know
about,
and
people
are
ingrained
in
these
apps
and
they've
developed
bad
driving
habits.
So
that's
that's
my
purpose
of
this
legislation.
Yeah.
D
N
E
Thank
you
Mr,
chairman
representative,
thank
you.
You
may
have
already
shared
some
of
this,
but
I'll
make
sure
the
and
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
forward.
Do
you
have
data
that
shows
that
there's
been
a
reduction
in
accidents
because
of
this
for
those
States
who
have
implemented
this
and
can
I
add
to
that?
Has
there
been
a
reduction
in
cost
of
insurance,
be.
O
O
I'm
gonna,
be
honest:
I,
don't
have
the
recent
updated
numbers
as
far
as
the
insurance
I
think
they
would
be
happy
to
provide
that
I
just
spoke
to
a
representative
from
a
national
insurance
company
who
drove
here
from
Columbus
Ohio
today,
just
to
be
present
at
this
Committee
hearing
to
hear
this
presentation
so
they're
very
in
tune
with
the
increased
cost
of
insurance
and
I'm
sure
they'd
be
happy
to
help
us
get
some
information
going
into
session.
We'll
try
and
have
all
that
available
to
you.
P
So
I
have
my
phone
powered
with
my
truck
but
like
coming
up
here,
I'm
I'm
fortunate
enough
lots
of
times
I
have
my
wife,
that'll
drive
me
and
I
like
to
be
on
the
phone.
Is
there
a
way
to
distinguish
between
that
or
or
you
know
whose
phone
and
if
it's
my
truck,
but
it's
my
phone
and
she's
driving
I
mean
do
we
have
well
what
what?
How
was
the
bill?
Look
at
that.
O
The
bill
only
impacts
somebody
who's
operating
a
motor
vehicle.
Just
the
operator
you
would
not.
If
you
were
a
passenger,
it
would
not
have
any
impact
on
you
whatsoever
on
the
use
of
a
phone
or
any
other.
You
could
watch
your
movies.
You
could
do
whatever
you
want
to
it's
just
the
operator
of
the
motor
vehicle.
It's
impacted
so.
O
P
L
Yes,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
do
you
know
what
the
current
penalty
would
be
now
if
I
was
riding
down
the
road
and
watching
a
movie
on
my
computer
I
mean?
Is
there?
Is
there
no
penalty
for
distracted,
I
know,
texting
and
driving
currently
is
illegal,
but
so,
if
I
have
my
computer
sitting
on
my
Dash
and
watching
the
movie
and
driving
on
the
road
and
a
police
officer
spotted
me
doing,
that,
is
there
no
penalty
for
that
now.
O
The
the
only
again,
the
only
I
think
the
only
penalty
that
could
be
applied.
There
is
to
someone
that
the
officer
saw
someone
driving
recklessly
and
recognize
that
as
part
of
it,
but
right
now
the
law
only
addresses
texting
while
you're
driving,
and
that's
one
of
the
issues
that
the
police
have
told
me.
Somebody
sometimes
people
use
a
defense,
they'll
say:
I
wasn't
texting
and
driving
I
was
on
Facebook
or
I
was
checking
my
email
but
I.
L
O
It's
my
interest,
it's
my
understanding.
Unless
you
were
to
do
unless
you
were
weaving
all
over
the
road,
but
as
far
as
I
mean
I,
mean
officer,
could
stop
you
and
ask
you
if
you're
texting,
but
that
is
the
defense.
A
lot
of
people
will
use.
I
wasn't
texting,
I
was
on
Facebook
or
send
doing
checking
email
or
things
like
that.
A
Okay,
all
right
see
no
further
questions.
I
know,
I
see
the
kma
representatives
in
the
back
of
the
room,
they've
been
expressed,
their
concerns
about
this
legislation
and
and
the
negative
effects
that
it
has
on
motorcyclists
folks
using
the
driving
and
using
a
cell
phone
next
on
the
agenda.
Q
Mr
chairman,
as
I,
was
saying
in
2021,
I
first
introduced
this
piece
of
legislation
to
begin
the
conversation
working
in
conjunction
with
the
transportation
cabinet,
focusing
on
highway
safety
in
our
work
zones.
I,
don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
this
I
think
sometimes
representative
Tipton
talked
about
habits,
I
think
we
sometimes
get
in
habits
of
of
doing
things
and
we
get
complacent
and
one
of
those
things
is
in
our
Highway
work
zones
and
there's
a
lot
of
that
going
on
and
I'm
glad
that
it
is
going
on
across
the
state.
Q
But
it's
also
a
very
dangerous
situation
for
those
that
are
out
there
working
on
these
road
projects.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
just
in
Kentucky
alone,
in
2021
we
had
1247
crashes
within
work
zones
in
Kentucky,
resulting
in
299
injuries
and
seven
fatalities
in
the
those
work
zones.
In
2020
we
had
905
crashes
with
228
injuries
and
six
fatalities.
Q
Q
A
fine
young
man
had
a
a
wonderful
life
ahead
of
him,
come
from
a
good
family,
his
what
he
would
accomplish
in
life
is
immeasurable
and
unfortunately
he
was
working
on
a
road
project
when
he
was
hitting
Kill
by
a
tractor-trailer
working
simply
on
a
road
project,
and
I
can
tell
you,
as
my
time
as
as
a
trooper
one
of
the
very
worst
accidents
fatalities
that
I
ever
worked
was
in
a
work
Zone.
Q
It
was
just
one
of
those
that
stick
with
me
and
always
have
for
30
years
now,
because
of
the
site
that
I
had
to
see
keep
in
mind.
These
are
accidents
that
are
occurring
not
between
vehicles
but
between
vehicles
and
a
human,
and
we
owe
it
to
them
to
provide
them
safety,
while
they're
out
there
working
doing
the
jobs
to
make
our
highways
better
make
our
Highway
safer,
so
that
we
can
have
means
not
only
for
our
transportation
but
for
Commerce
as
well.
Q
So
in
2021
I
introduced
a
piece
of
legislation
that
would
allow
for
the
transportation
cabinet
to
enact
a
pilot
project
using
automatic,
automated
speed
enforcement
and
selected
work
zones
across
the
Commonwealth.
What
we've
seen
Nationwide
is
states
that
have
enacted
these
programs
we've
seen
reduction
in
fatalities
and
injuries
in
these
work
zones,
and
we
owe
it
to
our
construction
workers
in
these
zones
to
provide
for
the
safest,
possible
work
environment
that
we
can,
and
so,
with
these
automated
this
automated
system,
it
would
their
cameras.
Q
They
would
take
a
photograph
with
the
speed
that
is
then
recorded
by
the
cameras,
and
this
is
then
mailed
to
them
and
they
are
fined.
First
offense
is
75
dollars,
second
offense
and
subsequently
fence
I
believe
it
was
125
dollars,
Jason
the
the
difference
here
is
it's
not
going
through
our
district
courts
in
this
and
I
know.
This
is
something
we
can
have
further
conversations
about,
whether
that
would
work
or
not,
but
the
purpose
in
that
was
one
of
the
biggest
things
in
fines
today.
Q
Quite
frankly
is
not
the
fine
itself,
but
it's
the
court
cost
and
the
court
cost
is
about
140
dollars
today,
right
up,
it's
up,
it's
even
higher
than
that,
so
it
keeps
going
up
so
one
we
want
to
keep.
Keep
it
reasonable,
but
two
the
money
was
also
to
be
used
to
regenerate
and
to
provide
for
other
highway
safety
programs
in
the
work
zones.
That's
what
the
money
was
to
be
capitalized
and
and
and
used
for
so
we
were
simply
looking
at
a
means
of
providing
safety
for
our
workers
and
I.
Q
I
would
also
add.
There
is
an
appeals
process.
Let's
say
a
vehicle
goes
through
and
it
captures
the
vehicle.
There
is
a
defense
that
you
weren't
dry
driving.
If
you
can
bring
proof
that
you
weren't
driving
or
a
a
sworn
statement
that
you
weren't,
but
you
would
have
to
provide
the
the
name
of
the
driver,
but
there
is
an
appeals
process
for
those
that
would
like
to
appeal
it
and,
and
that's
just
a
broad
overview
and
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Jason.
For
for
any
further
details
on
it.
R
Nope,
you
did
a
great
job
one
one
clarification
that
I
would
make
is
those
those
crash
numbers.
Those
are
those
are
both
crashes
between
vehicles
and
with
and
with
vulnerable
workers
in
the
in
the
work
zones.
However,
you
know
it
is.
It
certainly
is
not
uncommon
for
vehicles
to
encroach
into
the
actual
work
area,
sometimes
striking
workers
as
well.
So
this
is
this
is
something
that's
important,
not
only
for
worker
safety,
but
for
Highway
Safety
for
those
who
are
traveling
in
through
and
around
our
work
zones.
Q
So
Mr
chairman,
a
couple
years
back
when
the
unfortunate
accident
with
Mr
Helton
happened,
I
spoke
with
his
mother
and
family
and
we
began
this
process
and
then,
a
few
months
ago,
I
was
contacted
by
the
Kentucky
Association
of
Highway
contractors
asking
and
encouraging
me
to
continue
my
my
push
on
this
piece
of
legislation
because
of
protection,
and
you
will
have
you-
should
have
in
your
packet
a
letter
from
the
Kentucky
association's
Highway
contractors.
It's.
Q
Okay,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
supporting
this
piece
of
legislation
and
I'm
willing
to
work.
You
know
if
it
needs
to
be
tweaked,
we'll
we'll
tweak
it.
The
the
the
primary
thing
that
we're
looking
to
do
here
is
find
a
way
to
provide
protection
for
our
workers
out
in
these
work
zones
when
they're
out
there
day
in
and
day
out,
working
in
a
very
dangerous
situation.
That's
all
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here
is
to
provide
them
with
the
safest
work
environment
we
can
and
with
that
Mr
chairman.
A
A
Of
course,
we
heard
representative
Tipton
and
now
on
with
the
hands-free
and
and
now
the
work
Zone
with
representative
Blanton.
A
How
many,
how
many
and
I
know
Kentucky's
death
rate
on
their
accident
death
rate
on
the
highways
is,
is
creeping
up?
We
had
a
fairly
significant
decrease
when
we
passed
the
seat
belt
legislation
several
years
ago,
but
and
in
your
statistics
and
what
you
watch
it
as
far
as
deaths
on
Kentucky
highways.
What
are
you
seeing
this
workplace
accidents
hands-free
are
distracted
driving?
What
what
are
you
seeing,
as
as
some
of
the
reasons
for
that
increase
in
death
toll.
R
So,
as
as
the
representative
mentioned,
you
know,
there's
there's
been
a
significant
amount
of
crashes
and
throughout
the
last
couple
of
years
we
have
seen
some
increases
where
we
had
previously
been
seeing
some
incremental
decreases,
and
so
you
know
over
the
past
several
years,
you
know
you've
seen
increased
speeds,
increased
distraction,
I
I,
think
you
know,
representative
Tipton
mentioned
that
you
know
on
your
way
here
today
to
Frankfurt
you
may
have.
R
You
may
have
seen
someone
along
your
journey,
who
was
distracted
as
they
were,
as
they
were,
driving
along
and
so
distracted
driving
is
certainly
one
of
those
things
that
that
drives.
That,
and
as
representative
Blanton
said,
as
we
talk
about
this
specifically
for
work
zones,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
aware
not
only
that
they're
coming
into
a
work.
R
And
so
as
we
look
at
those
at
those
different
things,
the
Kentucky
office
of
Highway
Safety,
you
know
focuses
on
things
such
as
aggressive
driving,
which
includes
speeding.
You
know
not
not
stopping
for
traffic
signals
or
not
stopping
for
stop
signs,
distracted,
driving,
obviously
impaired
driving,
occupant
protection,
which
would
include
seat
belts
and
child
safety
seats,
roadway
departures,
which
is
a
primary
safety
concern,
particularly
in
rural
areas
of
our
Commonwealth,
and
also
vulnerable
Road
users,
which
would
include
motorcyclists
pedestrians,
bicyclists
and,
in
this
context,
certainly
workers
out
there
on
the
roadway.
A
Thank
you,
representative,
Blanton
I
know
some
representative
bratcher's
district,
this
past
summer
on
Gene
Snyder
freeway
between
Billtown
Road
and
Bardstown
Road.
The
orange
barrels
were
out
two
three
weeks
and
the
all
the
signage
was
up
prior
to
any
road
work,
starting.
What
does
this
have
to
be
a
active
construction
site
or
actual
people
working
before
this?
These
fines
are
implemented
or
just
any
any
work.
Zone.
Q
Well,
the
current
language
does
not
specify
that
there
has
to
be
actual
workers
there,
just
being
a
work
Zone,
but
I
am
very
open
to
tweaking
the
language
to
ensure
it's
at
a
time
when
we
actually
have
physical
work
going
on
with
individuals,
because
that's
who
we're
trying
to
protect
it's
those
workers
there
and.
N
C
Q
Does
the
information
go
once
it
goes
to
Transportation?
They
would
issue
a
fine
once
it's
resolved.
There
would
be
no
reason
for
them
to
to
record
the
license
plate
and
hold
on
to
the
image.
I
mean
there's
nothing
in
here
that
lays
out
a
retention
on
holding
the
license
plates
I
think
you're,
talking
about
something
where
they
use
cameras
to
basically
run
information,
seeing
if
something's,
stolen
and
so
forth
and
so
on,
and
that
this
system
doesn't
do
that.
Q
I
will
say
this
as
well,
since
we're
talking
about
phones
earlier
and
hands-free
I
know
in
states
that
I've
been
through
and
I
would
think
this
would
be
possible
to
implement
to
because
again
we're
not
wanting
to
punish
people
or
want
to
protect
people
right
and
to
give
them
even
far,
even
more
fair
warning
I've
been
in
states
that
have
these
type
cameras
and
I'm,
using
my
my
app
my
my
maps
on
my
phone
and
it
will
pop
up
on
my
phone
that
I'm
getting
ready
to
come
into
one
of
these
cameras
right,
it's
to
remind
me
to
slow
down
and
I'm
sure
that
that
could
be
implemented
because
again,
the
goal
here
is
not
to
punish
people
but
to
Simply
get
people
to
slow
down.
E
S
Q
They
would
be
placed
within
the
work
Zone
on
a
device
designed
for
these
cameras
to
capture
Vehicles
as
they
pass
through
the
work
Zone.
S
S
Okay
and
the
the
gentleman
you
mentioned,
the
tragic
loss
of
the
person
a
couple
years
ago,
Chris.
S
And
and
I
think
that
and
I
don't
know
how
many
of
these
happen
around
the
country
each
year,
I'm
sure
there's
there's
several
of
those
tragic
things
that
happen.
I've
been
very
adamant
over
the
last
few
years
about
cameras
to
protect
not
only
our
workers,
but
also
our
vulnerable
children
on
our
buses.
That
I
have
filed
legislation
on
the
last
two
years
and
we
haven't
had
a
tragic
death.
S
S
But
my
my
point
here
is
we're
wanting
to
implement
we're
wanting
to
put
cameras
out
there
to
protect
the
highway
workers
and
that's
great,
but
we
can't
seem
to
get
enough
support
to
implement
cameras
on
school
buses
to
protect
the
most
vulnerable
people
in
our
society
and
and
I
saw
a
Franklin,
County
bus
here.
Just
the
other
day,
a
student
was
getting
off
the
Franklin
County
bus
and
some
on
the
camera.
S
On
the
on
the
inside
camera
of
that
bus
recorded
a
student
missed
by
just
inches
so
I'm
all
for
your
bill,
I
think
it's
a
great
implementation
for
somehow
a
reason
or
another.
We
haven't
been
able
to
get
this
across
and
I'm
hoping
and
praying
that
it
doesn't
take
the
death
of
a
student
to
implement
something
to
protect
the
most
vulnerable
people
out
there
and
that's
the
children
getting
all
and
off
of
these
buses,
and
the
reluctance
to
do
this
is
is
beyond
me.
So
I
appreciate
your
bill.
S
That's
not
here
to
that's,
not
here,
to
try
to
build
up
some
for
myself,
I'm,
just
saying
I'm,
all
for
that
and
I
I
would
kind.
I
would
almost
say
that
you,
you
made
the
statement
it's
to
protect
and
not
to
punish
well.
S
In
a
sense,
it
is
to
punish
people
that
are
doing
these
kind
of
Acts
that
are
putting
our
our
citizens
lives
at
Danger
and
they
need
to
pay
a
high
price
for
that,
because
it's
happening
and
I'm
afraid
it's
going
to
continue
to
happen
and
I
certainly
support
your
piece
of
legislation
and
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing.
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
L
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I
have
two
statements
about
this
bill.
It's
and
it's
not
that
I'm
against
it,
but
wouldn't
this
logical,
Second
Step
be
to
just
put
them
on
all
roads
and
to
stop
all
speeding
everywhere,
and
is
that
something
we're
interested
in
doing,
and
the
second
statement
would
be
I
hope
that
they
keep
better
records
than
the
toll
bridges,
because
I
sell
a
lot
of
cars
and
we
transfer
them
immediately
when
we
sell
them
and
we'll
get
a
bill
a
month
after
we've
sold
it.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
I,
and
I
think
that
the
the
goal
of
this
bill
is
something
that
just
about
every
one
of
us
can
get
behind.
K
R
So
without
without
the
legislation
being
passed,
we
haven't
kind
of
gone
all
the
way
down
that
road,
but
there
there
are
certainly
vendors
out
there
who
provide
these
types
of
services
and
partnership
with
other
states
and
municipalities
who
allow
for
this
sort
of
thing.
So
what
we
would
be
doing
is
evaluating
you
know,
because
the
the
legislation
is
for
a
pilot
project
sure,
and
so
our
our
goal
would
be
to
evaluate
what's
out
there,
which
we
have
started
to
do,
but
we
haven't
made
any
final
decisions.
K
K
I
mean
do
most
States
use
a
third
party
vendor
or
do
most
States
operate
this
in-house.
R
I
I
think
that
it's
somewhat
split
I
think
that
you
know
throughout
the
United
States
there
are.
There
are
several
jurisdictions
that
allow
for
this
sort
of
thing
and,
and
those
implementations
have
taken
place
over
you
know,
say
a
decade
or
more
and
so
I
think
that
there's
definitely
been
some
Evolution,
both
in
the
in
the
purchase
and
in
the
private
sector
offerings
during
that
time.
R
So
I
think
that
there,
you
would
probably
find
if
you
took
a
poll
of
all
the
states,
that
it's
somewhat
split
but
anecdotally
from
what
I've
heard
recently
many
states
are
are
Contracting
as
opposed
to
doing
in-house
and.
K
K
You
got
to
go
online
because
nobody's
going
to
talk
to
you
if
you
pick
up
the
phone
or
if
you
do
get
somebody
on
the
phone,
you
know
they're
in
southeast
Asia
or
somewhere,
like
that
trying
to
answer
your
questions,
and
you
know
you
are
doing
something
here,
which
is
either
going
to
cost
somebody
money
and
I
would
assume
potentially
some
points
on
their
license,
which
could
impact
no.
This
would
not
at
all.
Q
K
K
I
I
guess
one
other
thing:
would
these
things
be
operating
when
folks
are
not
in
the
work
zone,
so
say
on
weekends
or
at
nights,
if
you're
driving
on
the
parkway,
you
know
I
mean
anybody's
going
east,
it's
it's
an
absolute
mess
right
now
for
about
which
is
a
good
thing,
we're
glad
with
the
progress,
but
you
know
sometimes
it
takes
a
while
to
get
there.
You
know
at
night
nobody's
working
and
things
like
that.
So
with
this,
would
this
also
apply
during
those
or
would
they
be
shut
down
at
a
certain
hour.
Q
A
M
I
remember
in
Tazewell
they
had
cameras
going
when
you
went
to
on
the
Cumberland
Gap
towards
81
when
you
drive
through
that
they
had
and
if
I'm
not
mistaken
and
I
could
be,
they
had
to
be
taken
out
because
of
entrapment
dessert.
M
Is
there
anything
here
that
would
fall
under
that
guideline
or
have
you
heard
of
heard
of
something
similar
to
that
to
where
they
had
these
automatics
cameras
for
speeding
and
they've
now
been
taken
out,
I
believe
because
of
the
Court
ruling
on
entrapment,
but
first
of
all,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea,
representative
that
I
myself
have
seen
close
calls
with
a
lot
of
I-75
work
going
on
over
the
years.
R
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
particular
court
ruling,
but
I
I
can
say
that
the
National
Conference
of
State
legislatures,
you
know,
has
done
a
lot
of
work
kind
of
looking
at
at
the
different
legislative
Frameworks
that
these
things
have
been
implemented.
It
is
the
representative
mentioned.
This
is
not
a.
R
This
is
not
a
criminal
item,
and
this
is
one
of
those
things
where
our
goal
really
is
to
have
the
system
collect
nothing,
because
we
really
don't
want
people
speeding
through
the
work
zones,
and
so
the
the
goal
is
to
provide
notice
even
Beyond.
You
know
the
signs
and
things
that
you
pass
by
right
now
that
this
type
of
system
is
in
in
place
and
operating
so
that
it's
explicitly
known
by
anybody
who's
traveling
ahead
of
when
they
would
encounter
those
devices,
because
the
the
goal
is
again,
the
goal
is
not
to
collect
Revenue.
M
A
Q
A
That
concludes
our
agenda
for
today
see
all
of
you
on
High
Noon,
hopefully
January
the
3rd
motion
to
adjourn.
We
have.