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C
I
I
want
to
remind
everybody.
D
Mr
chair,
mr
chair,
before
I
begin
this
is
senator
thomas.
I
couldn't
get
my
mute
to
to
punch
in
on
time,
but
I'm
present,
I'm
in
I'm
in
my
senate
district
today.
A
C
Everyone
that
it's
remote
to
put
your
computer
or
your
phone
on
mute
and
then
anyone
in
the
room.
Please
turn
off
your
cell
phones.
We
do
have
a
quorum.
C
All
in
favor,
say
hi
opposed
minutes
are
approved
all
right.
We
have
a
pretty
good
agenda
here,
we're
going
to
start
with
the
overweight
vehicles
and
tom
mcdaniel
director,
and
we
I'd
like
to
appreciate
secretary
reagan,
because
we
were
going
to
have
her
first
and
she
said
that
everybody
else's
time
is
just
as
important.
So
we're
going
to
stay
with
the
schedule.
B
F
F
Okay,
great
as
tom
at
indicate
I'm
the
assistant
director
in
the
division
of
motor
carriers.
We
took
the
information
that
was
requested,
so
I
hope
we've
encompassed
everything
you've
asked
for
today,
if
not
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
us,
and
let
us
know
we'll
go
back
and
get
what
you
need.
F
The
totals
we'll
start
with
that
for
the
overweight
over
dimensional
permits
that
we
issue.
As
you
can
see,
I
took
the
data
from
the
fiscal
year
of
2021.
We
issued
a
little
over
97
000
as
a
whole.
I
broke
that
down
into
trip
permits
and
annual
permits,
and
also
our
combination
of
amendments
and
transfers.
F
We
provide
those
to
carriers
in
the
event
for
an
amendment
if
they
want
to
change
information
on
a
route
that's
going
on,
we
can
do
that
and
accommodate
them.
It's
a
10
fee
and
also
the
transfers
if
they
have
a
vehicle
that,
sometime
through
the
years
put
out
a
commission
on
the
annuals,
will
allow
them
to
make
a
change
on
that
at
the
nominal
fee
of
ten
dollars.
F
A
lot
of
folks
wonder
what
we
permanent
and
it's
actually
anything
outside
the
scope
of
krs
189
222.
So
you
could
reference
pretty
much
like
cars,
trains
or
airplanes.
Anything
that's
oversized
from
a
house
to
a
a
historical,
antique
car.
That's
hit
it
on
its
way
to
beyond
the
history
channel
you'll
notice
in
the
the
one
in
the
bottom
below
that
is
a
fuselage.
F
F
So
you
do
see
some
interesting
things
that
go
through
on
the
top
right
hand
corner
that's
the
white
house,
so
we
did
not
move
the
white
house,
but
one
year
we
actually
issued
a
permit
for
the
christmas
tree
that
stood
outside
the
white
house.
So
there's
quite
a
scope
of
different
things
that
come
through
kentucky
and
get
permitted
through
kentucky.
F
F
F
So
we've
been
very
excited
about
that
that
we
launched
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
it's
proven
a
lifesaver
during
the
time
in
which
we
were
in
the
pandemic
and
folks
had
to
work
from
home,
it
really
didn't
affect
their
processes.
They
were
able
to
do
everything
online,
as
the
customers
are
now
as
well.
Largely
our
trip
permits
are
sixty
dollars
per
trip,
they're
vehicle,
specific
and
good
for
ten
days.
F
There's
a
map
at
the
bottom,
and
if
we
have
time
once
we
go
through
this
I'll,
go
back
if
anyone's
interested
in
seeing
that
we
have
three
permits
that
are
not
in
our
vendor
solution.
But
what
we
did
with
those
permits
is
we
provided
network
maps
for
the
carriers
to
help
them
through
their
process
until
we
can
get
them
incorporated
into
our
vendor
solution?.
F
This
is
just
a
snapshot
of
the
dashboard
that
a
customer
is
going
to
see
when
they
go
into
the
system
and
again
this
is
accessed
24
7..
The
customers
can
purchase
these
at
their
convenience
and
pay
for
them
at
their
convenience.
They
can.
They
have
two
people
work
in
the
system.
If
one
may
issue
the
permits
or
submit
the
permits
and
another
person
can
come
in
and
pay
for
it,
it
goes
into
a
queue
for
them
to
go
at
their
convenience
and
and
pay
for
it.
F
The
annual
permits,
the
two
that
are
highlighted
in
red
are
the
two
annuals
that
are
still
in
our
web
solution,
rather
than
our
vendor
solution,
but
all
of
the
others
are
incorporated.
As
I've
mentioned,
they
vary
from
eighty
dollars
up
to
fifteen
hundred
dollars
in
fees
and
the
the
one
most
issued,
I
would
say,
would
be
our
a01,
the
250
dollar,
one
that
display
there
shows
you
the
the
price
of
each
and
also
the
dimensions
and
scope
of
what
each
of
those
encompass.
F
And
moving
forward
in
technology,
like
I
said,
we've
got
the
eight
permits
to
purchase
and
all
but
two
are
system
generated
with
the
development
of
the
two
that
weren't
in
the
vendor
system.
Like
I
said,
we've
got
network
maps
that
this
carrier
can
go
to
that
will
tell
them
and
help
them
can
come
to
a
conclusion
when
they're
routing
their
loads.
F
And
again
I
can't
say
enough
about
our
routing
component
prior
to
using
this.
You
know
the
permits
were
issued
manually
pretty
much
based
on
historical
knowledge
using
an
excel
spreadsheet,
but
this
it's
taken
away
the
guesswork,
one
mechanism
that
we
think
would
be
great
for
public
safety
and
it
would
serve
the
kentucky
pro
infrastructures.
F
We
could
get
all
of
the
annuals
to
actually
use
the
route
authorization
tool.
That's
out
there
on
our
system
right
now,
they're
not
required
to,
but
there
is
a
tool
out
there
that
they
can
use
if
they
want
to
just
go
in
and
kind
of
play
around
with
some
routes.
It'll
do
that
for
them
as
well,
and
there's
no
charge
for
that.
F
You
know
makes
them
responsible
to
ensure
that
they're
supposed
to
check
all
the
vertical
horizontal
clearances,
the
bridge
weights,
but
we
don't
want
to
leave
that
up
to
chance.
So
again,
the
system
that
we
use
currently
largely
incorporates
all
that
and
ensures
that
you
know
the
carrier
is
going
to
go
through
the
route
that
they've
put
in
the
system.
What
we've
found?
F
When
you're
cutting
a
piece
of
wood,
what
does
it
say,
measure
try
twice
and
cut
once,
but
with
the
height
and
on
these
measurements
we
ask
that
they
measure
once
and
think
twice
if
the
measurement
doesn't
look
like
it's
what
they
give
the
system,
we
also
developed
a
cushion
into
the
clearances.
A
three-inch
clearance
is
minimum.
F
So
when
they're
doing
measurements
on
these
bridges,
they
should
be
allowing
for
that
three-inch
measurement,
because
the
system
does,
in
the
top
left
hand
corner.
That's
actually
a
hit
that
occurred
here
in
kentucky
earlier
this
year.
F
The
bottom,
you
can
see
the
impact
on
that.
That's
not
a
kentucky
hit,
but
it
actually
hit
so
hard.
It
shifted
the
entire
bridge.
So
that
is
a
big
concern
with
kentucky
when
it
comes
to
fridge,
hits
and
that's
that's
where
our
system
comes
into
play.
If
folks
are
doing
it,
the
right
way
using
the
system
utilizing
permits
it's
going
to
save.
You
know
save
something
of
this
nature
from
happening.
F
This
was
information
that
they
shared
with
me
that
they
had
tracked
and
the
cost
only
encompasses
the
construction
only
it
doesn't
include
the
design
or
inspection
or
the
in-house
repair
and
maintenance
on
these
hits.
The
first
one
is
kentucky
355
back
in
217,
and
these
are
just
the
ones
that
they've
documented.
I
asked
them
if
they'd
done,
any
studies
on
bridge
hits
and
they
are
actually
in
the
process
of
doing
that.
F
So
I
don't
know
when
that
would
be
available,
but
that
is
something
if
you're
interested
later
on.
We
could
probably
reach
back
out
to
them
to
see
if
they
have
any
kind
of
tentative
date
on
that
the
first
hit
was
355.
That
was
a
bridge
in
owen
county
and
from
these
hits,
I
don't
believe
anybody
was
identified
as
being
the
one
that
actually
did
the
damage
any
specific
company,
the
355
bridge,
a
piece
of
equipment
went
through
there
that
was
extremely
high.
F
It
bent
the
top
of
that
bridge,
so
they
had
to
go
in
and
do
some
construction
that
road
was
shut
down
for
quite
a
while
kentucky
652
that
was
in
gallatin
county
and
if
you'll
notice,
the
next
two,
those
bridges
have
actually
been
repaired,
twice
from
impacts
and
hits,
and
then
you've
got
the
most
recent
one
that
you
just
saw
the
picture
of
in
2021
on
kentucky
2692.
F
F
And
when
we
talk
about
our
vendor
solution,
you
hear
that
a
lot.
You
heard
that
a
lot
in
this
program,
but
that's
that's
again.
That's
our
saving
grace
we
roughly
do
about
55
or
60
percent
of
the
permits
are
done
self-issuance
and
when
I
talk
about
self-issuance,
the
carrier
goes
in
and
we've
set
a
parameter
that
we
allow
them
to
use
to
self-issue,
and
that
parameter
is
very
much
the
guidelines
of
our
annual
permits
up
to
16
wide
136
high,
which
is
legal
height,
120
long
and
160
thousand
pounds
on
the
gross
weight.
F
Largely
the
routes
that
we
issue
on
are
the
interstates
parkways
designated
highways
the
roads
that
we
know
for
a
fact
are
four
lane
the
best
roads
they
can
travel
80,
000
pounds.
F
We
are
looking
at
opening
up
the
self
issuance
standards
and
adding
some
more
roadways
in
there.
We've
got
eight
more
that
we
submitted
just
this
week,
so
that's
going
to
expand
the
areas
just
a
little
bit
more
for
carriers
to
go
out
there
and
use
and
to
issue
their
own
self
issue
their
own
permits.
F
We
talk
with
other
states
that
are
in
the
master
organization
and
those
are
all
our
surrounding
states
and
we,
we
were
very
impressed
when
we
talked
with
one
of
them.
They
said
that
they
issue,
roughly
probably
90
plus
permits
are
self-issued,
but
during
other
conversation
I've
also
noticed
that
they
also
have
a
very
high
percentage
of
bridgeheads.
F
So
I
think
we'd
rather
be
a
little
more
cautious
and
a
little
more
stringent
on
the
self-issuance
than
worry
about
a
bridge
hit
or
consider.
Someone
might
actually
do
a
bridge
hit
now
on
our
system.
Again
folks
can
go
on
there,
24
7..
Nobody
has
to
be
here
to
look
at
it.
If
it's
within
those
parameters,
they
can
issue
themselves
their
permit.
F
And
when
we
talk
about
ancient
history
on
our
system
prior
to
the
vendor
solution,
again,
as
I
mentioned
folks,
were
using
spreadsheets,
we
would
hopefully
get
information
from
the
districts
in
time
that
we
could
put
a
restriction
in
if
construction
was
going
on.
This
system's
incorporated.
All
of
that
all
of
the
annuals
are
housed
in
here,
we've
pretty
much
done
away
with
paper
in
this
section,
there's
no
more
faxing
in
we
don't
even
have
a
fax
machine
anymore
back
there.
I
don't
think
there's
no
more
faxing
in
folks
want
to
communicate.
F
There's
a
group
email
that
they
can
send
information
to.
If
they
want
to
send
an
application
in
there,
they
can
send
that
in
there
and
the
staff
will
issue
it,
but
we
always
try
to
reach
out
to
the
customer
and
educate
them
and
show
them
how
easy
the
system
is
to
use
and
let
them
do
that
at
their
convenience.
F
F
F
C
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
short
and
direct
presentation.
We
have
representative
blanton.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you,
miss
cook
for
this
presentation
and
I
apologize
if
I
missed
the
answer
to
my
question,
but
when
these
vehicles
are
hitting
our
bridges
and
causing
the
damage,
if
we
can
identify
who
is
doing
that
or
are
they
being
held
responsible
for
the
cost
that
has
cost
them
for
the
repairs.
E
Can
you
give
us
some
idea
in
terms
of
within
your
area
of
transportation,
how
many
of
those
employees
are
working
from
home
and
how
many
of
those
are
working
inside
the
system
and
the
performance
of
those
who
are
working
from
home
compared
to
what
it
was
prior
to
the
pandemic?.
F
Right
now,
with
this
particular
section,
they're
rotating
in
and
out
doing
the
three
days
in
and
two
days
out,
I
believe
largely
our
folks
are
in
house.
I
think
the
tax
branch
may
have
some
folks
that
are
doing
the
same
rotating
in
and
out
will
with
the
pandemic.
Personally
myself
and
several
other
staff
really
never
left.
E
For
those
20
who
are
still
working
from
home
is
efficiency
and
proficiency
achieved.
F
It
is
we,
as
I've
mentioned,
with
the
overweight
over
dimensional
staff.
We
could
totally
let
those
folks
go
home
and
work
remote
at
this
point
forward.
I
believe
everything
that
they
do
is
online.
Unfortunately,
some
of
the
other
processes
there's
checks
that
have
to
be
processed
through
the
tax
branch
for
revenue,
that's
received
from
the
taxes
and
fuel
taxes
and
a
weight,
distance
tax
and
certificate
fees
that
would
have
to
be
processed.
F
So
largely
we're
always
going
to
have
to
have
someone
in-house
to
do
some
of
the
manual,
but
we
we
did
manage
to
have
staff
permanently
in-house
during
the
pandemic
and
we
did
have
a
percentage
that
was
rotating.
So
now
largely,
I
would
say
tom.
Would
you
say
at
least
70
percent
of
everyone
is
back
in
and
maybe
30
percent
may
be
rotating
in
and
out.
F
F
I
believe
some
of
the
staff
even
were
required
to
send
in
reports
at
the
end
of
each
day
as
to
the
number
of
incidents
they
handled
processes
that
they
completed
things
of
that
nature.
So
the
managers
did
a
really
good
job
of
monitoring
the
system
remotely.
E
My
only
concern
was
was
efficiency
and
proficiency
there
and
I've
talked
to
a
number
of
cabinets
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
and
they
have
assured
me
that
the
efficiency
and
proficiency
which
I
talked
about
about
two
months
ago
in
a
committee
meeting,
is
there
as
a
matter
of
fact,
productivity
is
higher
than
what
it
was
when
they
were
in
the
office.
E
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
from
the
transportation
cabinet,
because
it's
an
important
all
all
cabinets
are
important,
but
this
is
very
important
in
terms
of
health
and
safety
and
the
welfare
of
people
from
the
commonwealth
and
those
who
were
traveling
across
the
commonwealth.
So
thank
you
for
giving
me
that
absolutely
appreciate
it.
C
I
see
no
other
questions,
but
I
have
a
couple
so
any
any
vehicle
that's
going
to
be
on
our
roadways
overload,
it
needs
a
permit
and
you
all
give
them
the
duration
of
their
permit
and
it
includes
the
route
and
safety
and
width
of
of
the
roads.
Are
these
permits
on
file
and
who
can
access
that.
F
There
they
are
on
file
in
our
system,
and
it
would
be
a
matter
of
public
record
through
the
open
records
act.
If
anyone
wanted
to
look
at
a
company
in
particular,
they
could
look
at
their
activity,
request
the
permits
within
a
certain
parameter
of
time
or
where
they
want
to
look
at
them.
So
yeah.
F
Yes,
we
could.
We
could
pull
that
for
you,
I
mean
the
general
public
would
need
to
go
through.
C
C
F
F
C
Okay,
can
you
get
me
more
information
on
that
we'll
talk
about
this
afterwards?
Thank
you
for
that
and
who's
responsible
for
the
enforcement.
I
think
we
have
the
ksp
down
here
and
you
all
also
have
the
your
commercial
vehicle
enforcement.
F
Yes,
they
largely
enforce
the
those
trucks.
What.
C
About
local
authorities.
F
We
they
they
have
the
authority
to
enforce
them
as
well,
if,
if
a
carrier
is
caught
in
violation
of
the
permit,
if
they're
not
on
the
route,
if
they're
over
the
actual
configuration
or
the
dimensions,
the
permits
issued
in
any
enforcement
agency
has
the
authority
to
pull
those
permits
to
confiscate
them
to
shut
them
down,
to
make
them
offload
something
or.
C
Now
representative
blanton
asked
who
pays
for
this,
and
it
is
the
person
that
is
at
fault.
How
are
we
on
collecting
that?
Have
we
done
a
good
job,
or
are
people
get
away
with
not
paying
or
have
we
done
a
good
job
of
collecting.
F
I
would
have
to
check
with
our
bridge
preservation
office.
They
are
the
ones
that
track
that
information.
So
I
wouldn't
I
couldn't
give
you
an
honest
answer
on
that,
but
we
I
can
check
and
have
someone
get
back
with
you
if
we
can
find
out
any
more
information.
I
did
basically
ask
them
what
the
history
was
on.
These
bridge
hits
and
what
they
had
and
that's
when
they
indicated
to
me
that
they
were
working
on
a
a
project
to
do
some
research
on
that
data.
C
All
right
well,
thank
you
very
much
and
next
we
have
shelly
hampton
director
of
government
affairs,
kentucky
association
of
companies.
D
C
H
Oh,
you
want
to
go
first
sure.
Thank
you
senator.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
thank
you
sorry
about
that.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
here
and
it's
it's
good
to
see
my
senator
as
the
chairman.
So
I'm
very
pleased
and
proud
of
that.
I'm
here
representing
one
of
the
fastest
growing
counties
in
the
commonwealth.
H
We
have
unprecedented
growth,
both
commercially
and
residentially,
and
one
of
the
issues
we
have
is
in
the
last
three
years
that
I've
been
tracking
this
in
my
position,
I'm
the
cfo
and
community
development
director
for
the
county
in
the
last
three
years.
The
road
aid
that
we
have
received
has
consistently
gone
down
because
of
the
growth.
The
road
work
consistently
goes
up
this
past
year,
we
in
in
2018
we
had
1.3
million
that
we
received
from
the
state
in
19
we
got
900
000..
H
Last
year
we
got
right
at
800
000
a
little
under
what
that
means
is
that
our
general
fund
from
the
county
consistently
goes
up.
This
past
year
we
spent
600
000
out
of
the
general
fund
for
road
maintenance.
H
H
We
have
83
000
people,
senator
nemus
knows
better
than
most
how
much
we
are
working
on
roads,
widening
working
on
consistently
trying
to
improve
the
roadways
and
the
things
that
we
have
to
do,
and
and
again
I'm
just
bringing
kind
of
the
real
world
perspective
of
this,
because
we
drive
on
them
every
day,
and
this
is
the
situation,
and
I
appreciate
shelly
letting
me
take
some
of
her
time
to
to
talk
to
you
all
yeah.
I
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you
for
for
allowing
us
the
time.
I
know
you've
got
a
full
agenda,
so
in
the
in
the
interest
of
time,
we'll
go
as
quickly
as
we
can.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
to
talk
about
this.
Of
course,
if
anybody's
been
around
for
the
last
four
years,
you
know
that
increased
transportation
funding
continues
to
be
a
top
issue
in
every
legislative
session
for
county
governments
with
owning
and
maintaining
half
of
all
the
roads
in
the
state.
I
That
is
a
heavy
lift
and,
as
you
just
heard
from
this
example,
as
the
state
funding
continues
to
decrease,
the
costs
continue
to
increase,
and
so
the
the
challenge
here,
not
just
with
overweight
but
overall,
just
wanted
to
make
that
point
that
we
we
continue
to
have
more
and
more
general
fund
dollars
out
of
our
counties.
To
have
to
go
towards
this
just
to
maintain
safety.
You
know,
economic
development
is
also
important,
and
so
there's
that
balance
between
the
two
as
well.
I
I
If
the
bond
covers
what
that
expense
is
a
lot
of
times,
they're
not
in
there
for
very
long,
and
so
we
don't
know
that
they're
in
the
county,
unless
they
come
to
us
and
tell
us-
or
unless
we've
actually
had
calls
from
constituents
to
tell
us
there's
a
a
truck
that
looks
like
it's
carrying
a
tremendous
amount
of
weight.
Is
there
anything
that
you
can
do
about
that,
and
so
they
they
have
torn
up
roads,
but
again
that
balance
between
economic
development
safety
has
to
come
into
play.
I
We've
also
been
left
with
subdivisions
that
are
incomplete
out
in
the
county.
That
doesn't
happen
too
often
outside
of
the
incorporated
area,
but
it
does
happen
and
that
that
falls
on
the
county
to
either
complete
that
or
find
another
developer
to
maybe
pick
that
that
ball
up
and
run
with
it.
But
there
are
some
options
that
we
have
again.
They
are
limited
in
scope,
a
lot
of
times.
They
don't
cover
the
actual
cost
of
what
we
have
to
go
in
to
do
and
repair,
but
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
D
H
D
Is
under
counted
in
what
way
and
and
if
you
can
expound
on
that,
a
little
bit.
H
I
I
go
back
to,
and
I've
been
in
my
position
for
about
six
years
now
before
that
I
was
in
the
private
sector
and
worked
in
community
banking
in
bullitt
county
I've
seen
the
growth
from
from
that
perspective
in
the
in
and
where
I
think
the
undercount
came
was
in
the
2010
census
started
there.
We
have
our
north
in
our
hill
view,
it
shares
a
zip
code
with
southern
jefferson
county
and
I
think
a
lot
of
our
folks
got
counted
in
jefferson.
H
We
also
sat,
we
feel
like
we
had
an
under
count
in
mount
washington,
which
we
think
we
probably
caught
up
a
little
bit
on
that
mount
washington.
I
know
there's
different
ways
to
to
to
look
at
those
numbers,
but
the
city
of
mount
washington
grew
98
percent.
H
So
if
you
look
at
the
hard
numbers,
we're
probably
having
the
fastest
growing
city
in
the
state
of
kentucky,
so
that's
that's
where
I
believe
again,
that's
not
an
official
I'm,
not
speaking
for
the
county.
There.
That's
just
somebody
that
lives
there
and
and
and
sees
the
folks.
D
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
just
a
quick
question.
When
the
subdivisions
are
built,
aren't
they
required
to
have
a
bond.
D
I
D
I
C
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
testimony.
We
appreciate
that
and
we
have
now
briana
carroll
director
of
public
affairs,
kentucky
league
of
cities.
J
Thank
you,
chairman
nemes,
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
issue
that
impacts
our
cities.
I
am
briana
carroll
director
of
public
affairs
for
the
kentucky
league
of
cities.
City
police
officers
can
enforce
our
weight
limits.
They
are
the
only
city
department
with
such
authority,
not
our
code
enforcement
officers.
J
J
However,
enforcing
our
weight
limits
is
nearly
impossible
task
for
our
city
police
departments.
There
are
a
lot
of
exemptions
to
the
current
law.
Our
city
police
departments
do
not
have
the
type
of
equipment
and
scales
needed
to
weigh
the
vehicles,
and
most
city
police
officers
are
not
trained
in
weight
enforcement.
J
Our
cities
cannot
pass
an
ordinance
to
restrict
the
height
width
length
or
weight
limits
for
trucks
below
those
the
state
established
in
krs,
189,
221
and
189
222
state
statute.
189
280
does
allow
a
city
with
a
population
equal
or
greater
than
3
000
to
pass
an
ordinance
permitting
trucks
to
exceed
the
federal
motor
carrier,
safety
administration,
weight
limits.
In
that
case,
the
truck
can
only
operate
within
15
miles
of
city
limits
and
not
on
our
state
highways
connecting
streets
designated
by
the
cabinet
or
county
roads
restricted
by
a
judge
executive.
J
J
Other
cities,
including
florence,
moorhead
and
southgate,
prohibit
trucks
from
operating
on
residential
streets
or
specific
streets
that
are
named
in
an
ordinance
more
commonly
cities
restrict
that
the
specific
route
that
large
trucks
can
take
to
divert
them
from
operating
in
a
downtown
area.
Cities
such
as
danville
hazard,
lawrenceburg
and
richmond
have
adopted
that
strategy,
hoping
to
prevent
damage
to
their
own
downtown
streets.
J
The
city
of
owensboro
has
designated
specific
large
truck
routes.
Large
heavy
vehicles
can
damage
the
city,
streets
and
bridges
and
add
to
an
already
expensive
heavy
maintenance
issue.
Governing.Com
pointed
out
that
a
fully
loaded
truck
weighing
80
000
pounds,
which
is
the
interstate
maximum,
can
cause
more
damage
than
a
street
with
5
000
cars.
So
for
us
that
toll
is
even
higher,
which
it
would
be
closer
to
10
000
vehicles
a
day.
J
Increasing
the
truck's
weight
to
90
thousand
pounds
would
result
in
42
percent
of
a
street's
wear,
and
the
pavement
designed
to
which
is
20
years
would
then
go
down
to
seven
years.
For
the
past
couple
of
years,
we've
discussed
how
cities
face
increased
streets
and
bridge
usage,
decreased
funding
and
growing
costs.
Our
city
streets
have
already
are
already
on
a
40-year
replacement
cycle
and
because
of
the
lack
of
funding
nearly
three
times
the
industry
standard,
overweight
vehicles
exasperate
the
problem,
because
city
streets
are
not
usually
made
for
this
type
of
traffic.
J
They
have
fewer
pavement
layers
than
state
and
federal
highways,
which
results
in
more
significant
damage.
Heavy
vehicle
road
damage
further
highlights
a
need
to
re-evaluate
how
we
fund
our
vital
streets
and
bridges
and
how
kentucky
distributes
motor
fuels
motor
fuel
revenues
among
local
governments,
but
our
cities
maintain
more
than
10
000
miles
of
public
streets
that
are
more
expensive
to
build
and
preserve.
Due
to
the
curbs,
the
gutters
americans
with
disabilities,
acts,
mandates
and
storm
water
drain
drainage
requirements.
J
Since
2009,
our
cities
have
spent
more
than
62
percent
more
on
streets,
but
our
state
and
federal
funding
has
declined
more
than
4
percent
and
in
fiscal
year
2020.
Our
cities
have
spent
more
than
340
million
dollars
on
our
streets.
Our
local
governments
are
in
a
vulnerable
position
because
there's
no
plausible
way
that
exists
for
our
police
departments
to
enforce
the
heavyweight
vehicles.
J
We
stand
ready
to
work
with
our
policy
makers
on
any
issues
that
you
want
to
address
in
legislation,
while
the
general
assembly
could
consider
any
number
of
legislative
fixes
to
providing
greater
authority
to
enact
local
regulations
and
utilize
local
law
enforcement
agencies
to
engage
in
enforcement
is
definitely
worth
exploring.
We
would
also
encourage
you
to
examine
current
exemptions,
additional
enforcement,
training
fees
and
penalties
and
the
use
of
bonds.
We
could
all
use
viable
tools
for
local
governments,
as
we
would
partner
with
the
state.
So
we
are
ready
to
be
your
partner.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
presentation,
quick
and
efficient.
I
appreciate
that.
Are
there
any
questions,
all
right,
we'll
go
to
major
nathan
day,
director
of
commercial
vehicle
enforcement,
kentucky
state
police
see
online.
K
I'm
nathan
day
I'm
the
major
with
kentucky
state
police,
commercial,
vehicle
enforcement
division.
I'm
here
today
to
provide
information
on
the
questions
that
have
been
submitted
to
the
kentucky
state
police.
The
first
question
was:
who
has
the
authority
and
or
responsibility
for
enforcement
of
overweight
vehicles
traveling
on
our
state
roads?
K
K
K
Ksp
is
required
to
complete
an
annual
state
enforcement
plan
and
state
enforcement
certification
to
be
submitted
to
the
federal
highway
administration,
proving
that
kentucky
is
enforcing
its
state
and
what
weight
and
dementia
laws
if
federal
highway
finds
that
kentucky
is
not
adequately
enforcing
the
required
state
and
dimensional
laws
they
have.
They
may
withhold
seven
percent
of
highway
funding
for
the
state.
K
K
As
with
any
other
traffic
law,
the
operator
of
the
vehicle
is
charged
with
obeying
the
law,
while
operating
the
vehicle
enforcement
against
another
party
other
than
the
driver
is
possible,
but
rare
due
to
continuing
manpower
constraints
because
it
because
of
additional
investigative
work
required
to
charge
non-driver
entities
with
weight
and
dementia
violations,
for
example
the
shipper
or
the
loader
or
the
motor
carrier.
Significant
additional
manpower
would
be
required
with
additional
manpower.
Ksp
could
resume
proven
an
effective
weight
dimension
enforcement
strategies
which
have
suffered
to
significant
attrition
within
our
agency.
K
On
the
question
three
who
can
file
a
complaint?
A
member
of
the
public
can
file,
can
contact
any
law
enforcement
agency
to
request
an
investigation
of
potential
weight,
dimensional
violations.
Typically,
the
best
method
of
contact
is
one
of
the
three
cbe
regional
offices
for
one
of
our
16
ksp
posts
or
kytc
or
any
other
agency
throughout
the
state.
K
Ksp
manpower
crisis
is
camp
currently
hampering
their
ability
to
respond
consistently,
consistently
and
effectively
to
complaints
about
overweight
dimensional
vehicles.
Investigating
these
type
of
complaints
is
labor
intensive
requires
flexibility
in
scheduling
and
our
current
shortage
are
making
this
nearly
impossible.
K
In
closing,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
come
here
today
and
talk
about
the
work
that
commercial
vehicle
enforcement
division
does
for
the
people
of
the
commonwealth
throughout
the
pandemic.
The
officers
inspectors
have
kept
the
scale
facilities
open.
Their
efforts
are
a
demonstration
of
the
professionalism
and
dedication
to
protecting
kentucky
roads
and
highways
from
unsafe
vehicles
and
operators.
K
C
Thank
you
major.
I
really
appreciate
that
see
no
questions
and
you
answered
my
question,
but
I
want
to
reiterate:
it
is
most
of
the
time
ksp
are
out
on
the
expressways
enforcing
this,
but
they
are
they
try
to
be
available,
but
with
the
lack
of
funding
and
lack
of
manpower,
they
try
to
be
available
for
inside
the
county
in
cities
when
requested.
C
G
Apprenticeship
services
is
a
critical
component
that
we
are
focusing
on
and
it
is
actually
a
perfect
week
to
have
us
here
as
its
national
apprenticeship
week.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
to
our
executive
director,
michelle
dejean,
who
is
the
expert
and
that
does
all
the
heavy
lifting
in
the
apprenticeship
program.
L
Thank
you
again
good
morning.
Everyone
thank
you
committee.
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here
today,
as
as
mary
pat
had
said,
it's
national
apprenticeship
week,
because
we're
excited
to
celebrate
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
and
registered
apprenticeship
across
the
commonwealth.
I'm
going
to
give
you
an
overview
of
what
registered.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
this
morning,
I'm
going
to
give
you
an
overview
of
what
registered
apprenticeship
is
and
tell
you.
The
positive
and
the
successes
of
registered
apprenticeship
in
the
commonwealth
registered
apprenticeship
is
currently
in
the
kentucky
education
and
workforce
development
cabinet
in
the
department
of
workforce
investment
in
the
office
of
employer
and
apprenticeship
services.
We
are
a
small,
but
mighty
office
registered
apprenticeship
is
housed
in
this
office,
along
with
other
grants
and
programs
to
serve
businesses
of
the
commonwealth.
L
We
leverage
resources
with
the
workforce,
innovation
and
opportunity
act,
along
with
incentives
from
the
work
opportunity,
tax
credit,
our
assessment
services
and
the
federal
bonding
programs
is
strategically
placed
in
this
office,
so
we
can
better
serve
employers
of
the
commonwealth
and
as
an
office
we
are
all
about
delivering
the
difference
and
helping
businesses
in
the
commonwealth
registered
apprenticeship
is
one
program
that
actually
grew
through
the
pandemic.
So
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
successes
and
what
we've
done
with
registered
apprenticeship.
L
To
give
you
an
overview
of
what
is
registered
apprenticeship
registered
apprenticeship.
Is
your
grow.
Your
own
earn
and
learn
succeed
model.
It's
often
referred
to
as
the
original
four-year
degree
program.
It
combines
both
on-the-job
training
and
job-related
instruction.
It
results
in
a
industry-recognized
national
credential.
L
L
L
L
The
second
is
scheduled
to
end
june
30th
of
2023
and
we're
always
looking
at
our
options
for
federal
support
for
this
program.
L
Here
are
some
statistics:
here's
a
statistical
snapshot
of
registered
apprenticeship
in
the
commonwealth.
We
have
594
programs
with
347,
unique
employer
sponsors
covering
585
occupations
with
approximately
4152
152
apprentices.
Here
in
kentucky,
we
are
in
intentionally
trying
to
provide
education
and
outreach
to
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
L
Here's
an
interesting
map
to
tell
you
how
I'm
trying
to
not
me
we
as
a
team,
because
I
don't
do
it
alone.
We
have
a
a
very
passionate,
dedicated
team
in
the
office
of
employer
and
apprenticeship
services.
Here's
a
map
of
where
registered
apprenticeship
is
in
the
commonwealth,
so
to
provide
employer
outreach
and
education.
L
I
know
where
our
sponsors
are,
and
I
know
where
registered
apprenticeship
is
not
so.
I
have
a
team
of
workforce
development
consultants
across
the
region
who
are
providing
employer
education
and
outreach.
L
In
addition
to
having
state-sponsored
registered
apprenticeship
programs,
we
also
have
some
nationally
sponsored
registered
apprenticeship
programs
here
in
the
commonwealth.
So
the
blue
dots
are
where
our
state-sponsored
programs
are
in
the
orange
triangles.
Our
nationally
registered
apprenticeship
programs
across
the
commonwealth.
L
L
As
I
progressed,
I
wanted
to
give
you
some
industry
information
on
where
registered
apprenticeship
is
in
in
our
industries.
Today
we
have
408
apprentices
in
the
healthcare
and
social
assistance
occupations.
L
Apprenticeship
in
the
utility
industries
is
earning
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
one
year
three
year
and
five
years
out
and
then
from
again
from
2015
to
2019.
The
number
of
completers
have
increased
by
264
percent,
so
this
just
enforces
and
supports
that
registered
apprenticeship
as
a
solution
for
our
employers
in
today's
economy.
L
As
part
of
our
national
apprenticeship
week,
the
office
of
employer
and
apprenticeship
services
is
is
recognizing
some
successful
registered
apprenticeship
completers,
so
we
are
hosting
several
online
webinars
recognizing
the
employers
who
are
successfully
who
have
successful,
registered
apprenticeship
programs.
We
also
will
be.
We
have
several
programs
in
the
commonwealth
who
have
been
registered
apprenticeship
providers
for
75
years,
plus
so
I'll
be
making
site
visits
to
those
employers
this
this
month,
as
well
so
in
here
are
some
of
our
successful
completers
from
the
2020
to
21
year.
L
Interact
is
a
successful
program
completer
in
the
occupations
of
application,
developer,
computer
support,
specialist
desktop
support
technician,
and
hopefully
you
can
see
that
registered
apprenticeship
is
just
not
the
skilled
trades.
It's
so
much
more
and
it's
across
all
occupations,
and
they
have
186
apprentices
today
in
the
healthcare
industry
trilogy
healthcare
alliance.
Llc
is
one
of
our
is
a
very
successful
registered
apprenticeship
program
addressing
the
health
care
needs
of
the
commonwealth
with
238
apprentices
in
successful
completions
in
the
last
year
for
variation.
L
Also
another
a
top
completer
is
davis,
h,
elliott,
incorporated
who
has
343
apprentices
in
the
power
line,
distribution,
erector
line,
supporting
infrastructure
and
broadband
needs
so
another
showing
the
diversity
of
occupations
and
then
our
other
top
completer
of
the
program
is
in
the
the
messer.
Construction
is
a
successful
program
completer
in
the
construction,
craft,
labor,
carpenter
occupations
and
today
they
have
26
apprentices.
So
I
wanted
to
show
the
committee,
the
diversity
and
the
occupations
and
how
registered
apprenticeship
is
very
successful
for
work
workforce
needs.
L
The
last
is
we're
also
implementing
registered
apprenticeship
for
our
state's
child
care
needs
so
with
early
care
and
education
and
need.
We
have
registered
apprenticeship
programs
in
the
child
care
development,
specials
and
teachers
aids.
We
have
19
apprentices
currently
in
29
registered
apprenticeship
sponsors
in
in
kentucky
for
the
meeting.
Our
child
care
needs.
L
I'm
going
to
end
today's
presentation
with
how
to
keep
and
grow
registered
apprenticeship
in
kentucky
they're.
Currently
I
have
three
apprenticeship:
training
representatives
on
our
team
of
an
office
of
15,
but
three
who
are
dedicated
to
registered
apprenticeship
in
supporting
registered
apprenticeship,
managing
those
registered
apprenticeship
programs
and
providing
technical
assistance.
But
we
are
talking
to
new
employers
every
week
about
growing
registered
apprenticeship
in
the
commonwealth.
L
So
two
I'm
looking
at
possibly
a
regionally
based
additional
staffs
for
regional
based
or
sector
sector-based
specifics,
but
with
594
programs
and
three
apprenticeship
training
representatives,
their
their
workload
is
they're
busy,
but
they're
passionate
about
the
work
they
do
and
we
support
them
in
any
way
we
can
and
then.
Lastly,
for
consideration
I've
presented
when
I've
been
at
previous
presentations
talking
about
possibly
a
state
tax
credit,
I
provided
you
a
link
to
other
states
who
are
also
providing
tax
credits
and
tax
incentives
for
the
department
of
labor's
registered
apprenticeship
program.
L
L
Yeah,
the
chairman
did
design
those
so
we'll
leave
everyone,
a
a
registered
apprenticeship,
lapel
pin.
So
if
you're
asked
about
registered
apprenticeship,
if
you
could
refer
them
to
apprenticeship
at
ky.gov,
we'd
love
to
talk
to
it
with
the
employer
about
how
this
is
a
workforce
solution
for
them
in
today's
economy.
I'll
take
any
questions.
C
Well,
our
staff
actually
designed
them,
while
I
was
there
in
charge
of
it.
So
I
think
everybody
here
knows
how
passionate
I
am
on
registered
apprenticeship,
and
we
have
a
question
from
representative
pratt.
D
Well,
it's
more
of
a
statement.
I
think
your
program
again
we're
not
a
registered
apprenticeship
company,
but
I'll
tell
you.
We
actually
have
high
school
kids
from
time
time,
shadow,
our
landscape,
architect
that
would
like
go
into
that
field
on
a
regular
basis,
make
sure
that's
the
field
they
want
to
go
into
and
also
prepare
them
for
real
life
experience.
So
thank
you
for
what
you're
doing.
I
support
your
program,
but
I
think
you
have
more
companies
than
you
think
participating
in
this,
because
again
it's
a
workforce
need
without
doubt.
C
C
C
G
C
Good
quick
answer,
thank
you
now.
I
know
that
you
all
transferred
the
the
employees
from
covert
to
you
during
covet
to
ui
for
a
while.
So
that
also
deterred
your
what
you
were
doing
correct.
L
Actually,
we
that
the
staff
juggled
their
work
for
covid
and
registered
apprenticeship
work.
We
actually
grew
programs
during
the
pandemic,
assisting
with
unemployment
insurance
and
registered
apprenticeships.
So
the
dedicated,
passionate
staff
worked
through
that.
C
Another
I'd
like
for
you
to
get
back
with
me
on
that.
I
didn't
see
these
statistics
the
number
of
new
programs
and
the
number
of
new
occupations,
because,
as
you
know,
getting
a
new
occupation
is
really
really
hard
and
I'm
glad
that
we're
moving
on
with
the
nursing
program
very
disappointed
that
our
leader
norton's.
That's
that
we
worked
with
to
start
that
program
nationwide
is
no
longer
with
us.
L
They
actually
are
in
hiatus
at
this
time
and
I'm
continuing
conversations
with
them
about
restarting
or
continuing
or
developing
registered
apprenticeship,
and
as
for
new
programs,
sir,
I
can
tell
you
there
are
several
occupations,
I'm
working
with
in
as
because
we
are
a
state
approving
agency
for
registered
apprenticeship
for
for
expanding.
We
have
well,
let's
set
up
a
meeting.
C
With
us
sure,
let's
talk
about
these
two
different
things,
I'd
appreciate
that
and
then
it's
a
good
thing
that
we
were
trying
to
work
within
the
state
on
our
own
agencies
like
osha
inspectors
and
that
to
have
apprenticeships
too.
C
I
think
that's
something
we
need
to
expand
on
to
do
it
in-house
also,
but
one
of
the
main
things-
and
you
did
distinguish
your-
that
you
have
three
employees-
you
did
have
one
for
quite
a
while
yeah
that
was
pretty
much
just
doing
the
signing
off
on
the
programs,
and
now
you
know
we
had
quite
a
well.
C
I
think
we
had
like
six
or
seven
when
I
left
so
you're
you're
talking
about
something
that
josh
benton-
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
him
was,
was
talking
about
and
we
were
going
at
it
head
to
head
on
making
sure
it
was
done
properly
on
combining
the
your
workforce
development
staff
with
the
registered
apprenticeship.
I
caution
you
on
doing
that
to
make
sure
that
one
doesn't
get
watered
down
in
that
they
do
have
two
separate
things.
So
I
I
wouldn't
mind
working
with
you
on
that.
C
If
you
intend
to
do
that
so
with
the
biggest
thing
question
I
have
is,
I
would
like
to
for
you
all
to
come
to
me
and
show
me
how
you're
utilizing
that
581
thousand
dollars
that
the
general
assembly
is
giving
you
for
three
employees.
C
A
meeting
is
there
any
other
representative,
graham.
E
I'm
gonna,
madam
secretary,
I'm
gonna,
ask
you
the
question
I
asked
earlier
in
terms
of
within
your
cabinet
those
those
individuals
who
were
employed,
who
were
working
here
in
frankfort.
Are
you
all
still
on
a
schedule
where
some
are
still
working
from
home
and
some
are
still
working
within
the
agency.
G
E
My
only
concern
was
making
sure
that
efficiency
and
proficiency
was
taking
place
and
in
those
cabinets
that
I
have
talked
with,
they
have
had
very
much
success,
and
so
I
want
you
to
expound
upon
how
it
has
worked
with
the
hybrid
plan
during
this
period.
G
We
have
done
exceptionally
well,
we
you
know
we're
we're
able
to
pivot
immediately
and
move
to
remote
working,
and
we
continue
to
do
that.
I'm
very
fortunate
to
have
an
amazing,
dedicated
staff
and
nothing
has
dropped,
it's
actually
expanded.
G
E
It's
been
a
success,
it's
been
very
successful
and
that's
that's.
What
I
want
to
to
convey
is
that
as
long
as
your
agency
and
the
other
agencies
across
the
commonwealth
are
performing
and
are
providing
for
the
citizens
of
the
commonwealth,
then
I
have
no
objections.
E
My
only
concern
was
to
make
sure
that
that
was
happening
and
I've
talked
to
several
several
of
the
cabinet
secretaries,
and
they
have
assured
me
and
provided
me
with
information
that
shows
that
productivity
is
up,
and
it's
also
helped
the
morale
of
the
agencies
in
which
they
have
allowed
that
to
take
place.
G
Yeah,
it's
been
extremely
successful,
as
you
can
imagine.
The
amount
of
work
coming
in
and
to
be
able
to
get
that
done
in
a
timely
manner.
Allows
people
to
you
know,
juggle
their
schedules
and
actually
be
more
productive.
You
know
doing
the
hybrid
model,
but
if
you
want
to
see
specifics,
we
can
certainly
well.
E
I
would
appreciate
it
if
I
could,
but
I
I
know
that
the
other
cabinets
that
which
have
provided
that
information
have
shown
also
and
the
and
the
only
concerns
I
had
was
to
make
sure
that
people
across
the
commonwealth
were
being
served
but
that
our
employees
were
also
safe
and
secure
in
their
workforce.
C
Well,
I
think
that,
being
out
in
the
state
helps
you,
I
think,
being
out
in
the
state,
helps
you
a
lot
being.
If
you
have.
E
But
I
I'm
glad
that
I've
been
able
to
to
you
have
been
able
to
convey
that
to
me
as
well,
because
that's
what
I've
gotten
back
from
the
other
cabinets
that
I've
asked
that
question
about.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
E
C
I
look
forward
to
talking
with
you
some
more
thanks
for
your
service.
Thank.
H
M
Hello,
thank
you
chairman
and
thanks
to
the
committee
for
allowing
us
to
present
and
share
our
plans
for
a
center
for
military-connected
students
at
the
university
of
louisville.
M
M
M
Twenty
percent
of
our
students
that
are
online
are
military-connected
students
and
we
have
developed
specific
programs
that
allows
those
students
to
take
their
work,
experience
and
classes
taken
in
the
military
to
count
toward
a
degree
at
an
undergraduate
level.
They
can
count
up
to
48
semester,
credit
hours
and
a
120
credit
undergraduate
degree,
and
we
have
a
number
of
tracks
for
them
that
were
designed
to
take
into
account
a
military-connected
student's
service
to
his
and
her
country.
M
M
One
of
the
one
of
the
other
points
of
pride
for
us
is
we're
one
of
few
schools
that
charges
the
per
credit
hour.
That
is
provided
through
the
federal
tuition
program
of
250
dollars
per
credit
hour,
and
we
do
that
for
undergraduate
and
graduate
students.
So
our
students
are
able
to
come
with
their
tuition
paid
at
that
250
dollar
rate.
We
don't
charge
them
a
higher
tuition.
B
Thank
you,
dr
gonzalez.
As
dr
gonzalez
said,
my
name
is
kyle
hurwitz.
I
am
uofl's
director
of
military
initiatives
and
retired
from
the
u.s
air
force,
as
you
can
probably
tell
by
the
pictures
behind
me,
so
this
center
will
fundamentally
alter
how
we
address
the
academic,
financial,
physical
and
social
needs
of
these
students.
B
The
center
will
provide
a
single
entity
to
fix,
as
I
said,
responsibilities
that
are
separate,
separated
across
institution
now,
what
we
call
still
types
of
excellence,
meaning
there's.
There
are
areas
and
individuals
at
the
institution
who
serve
this
population
very
well,
but
they
do
it
kind
of
in
an
isolated
manner,
and
we
want
to
bring.
We
want
to
bring
all
that
together
again,
like
dr
gonzalez
said,
to
make
this
one
place
where
the
students
can
go
to
get
everything
taken
care
of.
B
In
a
nutshell,
this
center
will
increase
our
ability
to
attract,
retain
and
most
significantly
graduate
military
connected
students
and
why
that's
important,
like
dr
gonzalez
alluded
to,
was
38
of
these
students
under
underrepresented
minorities,
so
that
allows
us
to
get
more
performance
funding
from
a
state.
So
it's
kind
of
helping
us
help
ourselves,
and
I
think
those
were
the
highlights
so
stand
by
for
your
questions.
M
I
wanted
to
mention
one
other
thing
that
we
want
to
do
in
this
center.
I've
talked
to
a
lot
of
our
veteran
students,
and
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
those
students
can
translate
the
skills
they
had
in
the
military
to
our
workforce,
and
I
think
some
of
our
intervention
with
them
to
show
them
the
range
of
of
workforce
opportunities
for
them,
while
they're
here
will
help
them
get
into
good
paying
jobs
when
they
graduate.
So
we're
happy
to
take
any
questions.
C
A
I
think
this
is
a
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
guys
at
uofl,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity.
I
hope
we
can
come
through
for
uofl
on
this
and
help
our
military
students,
our
future
military
students,
progress
in
a
much
easier
way.
So
I
I
thank
you
just
chairman
for
allowing
us
to
talk
on
this
and
thank
you
very
much.