►
From YouTube: Interim Joint Committee on Transportation (8-3-21)
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
Welcome
everyone
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
the
third
meeting
of
the
interim
joint
committee
on
transportation.
A
A
When
you
answer
the
roll
call,
please
specify
if
you
are
in
your
office
in
frankfurt
or
in
your
home
district
and
if
you're
attending
remotely
and
would
like
to
be
recognized.
Please
use
the
chat
function
on
the
on
the
app
to
send
a
message
to
our
staff,
who
will
be
monitoring
during
the
meeting
and
we'll
get
to
you
in
order
and
get
you
in
the
queue
and
all
of
today's
meeting
material
is
on
the
lrc
website.
So
at
this
time
I'd
ask
madam
secretary
to
please
call
the
role.
A
A
A
A
Thank
you
first
item
on
our
agenda
today
is
a
an
update
of
the
implementation
of
the
new
motor
vehicle
information
system.
Actually
before
we
do
that,
let's
approve
the
minutes
to
have
a
motion
got
a
motion.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
motion
passes
now
we'll
get
to
the
implementation
of
the
new
motor
vehicle
information
system,
known
as
cavis.
A
We
have
with
us
today,
heather
stout,
the
executive
director
of
the
kytc
office
of
information
technology
and
john
eiler
project
manager.
So
are
you
all
with
us.
B
A
G
E
Wonderful,
hopefully,
everybody
can
see
the
caves
program.
Update
slide.
Is
that
true,
yes,
outstanding?
First
and
foremost,
I
wanted
to
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
come
in
here
and
give
a
program
update
on
cavist.
You
know
in
on
behalf
of
heather
stout,
the
executive
director
and
myself
just
thank
you
for
that.
Also.
I
know
that
you
know
time
is
of
the
essence,
so
I'll
go
through
a
lot
of
these
slides.
E
I
provided
them
ahead
of
time
so
that
you
all
could
read
some
of
their
content,
because
I
know
that
ultimately,
what
you
all
want
to
see
is
is
how
is
the
canvas
program
doing?
Are
we
going
to
meet
our
objectives?
E
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
afford
to
obtain
those
objectives,
and
are
we
going
to
get
this
to
the
citizens
of
the
commonwealth,
and
so
hopefully,
at
the
end
of
this,
we'll
be
able
to
answer
all
those
questions
and
then,
if
you
have
any
questions
along
the
way
I'll
try
to
answer
them
as
best
as
I
can
with
that
being
said,
the
overview
we're
going
to
kind
of
talk
about
the
project,
update
review,
some
of
the
high-level
benefits
of
what
cavus
is
and
what
it's
going
to
provide
to
the
commonwealth.
E
E
The
next
module
that
we
plan
on
working
on
or
plan
on
completing
is
actually
the
one
that
will
completely
decommission
that
legacy
mainframe
application,
and
what
that
means
is
that
that
the
the
application
that
every
county
clerk
currently
uses
to
issue
titles
and
registrations
for
all
vehicle
types
will
be
turned
off
and
all
of
that
functionality
will
move
on
to
the
cavis
platform.
E
We
presented
that
last
time
and
we
provided
that
in
the
update-
and
you
can
see
here-
we've
we've
done
the
print-on-demand
decal,
which
we
implemented
in
may
2015.
web
renewals,
which
have
increasingly
became
more
beneficial
to
the
end
users
throughout
the
pandemic.
E
A
lot
of
the
times
citizens
could
not
go
on
into
the
office,
so
they
leverage
web
renewals
and
that's
grown
exponentially
over
the
past
15
to
18
months
and
allowed
people
to
remain
safe
at
home,
while
also
renewing
their
vehicles,
so
that
that
has
increased
and
and
the
buy-in
from
the
county
clerks
has
increased
as
well
on
that,
so
that's
becoming
more
integral
into
the
actual
day-to-day
operations
of
the
county.
Clerk's
offices.
E
Now
that
we're
kind
of
in
this
hybrid
environment,
where
people
want
to
do
more
things
from
their
their
home,
we've
also
implemented
the
disabled,
placard
implementation
and
the
enhancements
to
that.
We
did
the
statewide
point
of
sale,
which
is
in
march,
2018,
in
which
we
got
every
county
clerk
and
every
county
in
the
commonwealth
onto
one
single
platform
so
that
they
could
perform
their
all
of
their
point
of
sale
transactions
through
one
single
supportable
application.
E
We
built
out
that
vehicle
foundation
in
2019,
with
the
first
implementation
of
our
boats,
release
and
and
currently
every
county
and
and
every
vote
in
the
commonwealth
are
going
through
our
application
and
that
the
reason
why
that's
significant
is
because
that's
proving
out
our
title
and
registration
functionality
that
we
built
as
well
as
ensured
that
we've
covered
all
of
our
necessary
end
users
such
as
the
motor
vehicle
licensing,
kentucky
state
police,
fish
and
wildlife,
department
of
revenue,
property
value,
administrators
and
audit.
E
Next,
we
implemented
the
flat
plate
solution.
We
decommissioned
the
ode
avis
inventory
solution
and
we
built
out
a
new
inventory
solution
that
we're
going
to
leverage
with
cavis.
We
implemented
the
flat
plate
solution
which
will
be
totally
integrated
into
the
cavis
application
seamlessly
and
then
now
our
last
focus
is
just
on
that
last
module.
E
E
So
with
that
being
said,
I'm
going
to
move
on
that's
kind
of
a
high
level
of
the
things
that
we've
accomplished
this
far
we've
kind
of
talked
about
the
standardization
and
hit
on
it
with
the
point
of
sale
solution
and
having
everybody
on
that
same
solution,
the
ability
to
support
120
counties,
the
ability
to
provide
guidance
and
training
and
and
just
hands-on
engagement
with
every
county
equally
is
really
a
key
guiding
principle
of
this
entire
operation.
E
You
can
obviously
you
understand
that,
there's
a
lot
of
problems
that
could
happen
if
they're,
if
different
counties
are
using
different
flavors
of
the
system,
and
so
the
answers
won't
always
be
the
same.
Well
that
that
standard
ethos
in
which
we're
operating
with
the
point
of
salt
solution
goes
through
the
entire
cavis
application,
so
everybody's
getting
the
same
solution.
E
They
require
some
configurations
and
customizations
to
their
needs,
but
it,
but
we
really
focus
on
making
sure
that
they
have
the
same
product
and
the
same
operations,
the
same
flows
so
that
they
all
understand
that
you
know
whether
or
not
they
the
process
doesn't
change
just
based
on
their
size.
It
changes
on
their
needs
of
their
office
and
it's
all
configured
very.
Similarly.
E
What
that
also
does
with
standardization
is
that
it
it
increases
the
ability
for
those
front
line
clerks
to
learn
and
understand
what
they're
doing
so.
They
can
provide
a
better
service
to
that
citizen
of
the
commonwealth.
E
They
can
go
in
and
everybody
operates
the
same
way.
So
we
can
provide
all
that
training.
We
can
provide
all
that
awareness.
They
understand
that
their
peers
and
colleagues
that
are
next
to
them
have
been
doing
the
same
job
and
it's
it's
intuitive
and
they
can
actually
take
on
responsibility
sooner
on
their
onboarding.
E
And
that's
one
of
the
huge
gains
that
we
saw
whenever
we
implemented
the
boats
module
people
understood
that
we
built
a
system
that
is
very
intuitive
and
understandable
and
we
push
things
to
the
the
top
of
the
screen
so
that
you
read
from
the
top
to
the
bottom,
very
very
common
practices
among
user
interface.
E
Because
this
system
is
a
customer
facing
a
citizen
facing
application
and
one
of
the
primary
responsibilities
that
we've
taken
on
with
the
cavis
team
is
to
build
a
system
that
allows
that
clerk
to
provide
the
best
experience
to
that
citizen,
because
it's
critically
important
to
to
make
sure
that
we
can
serve
our
citizens.
And-
and
while
I
know
that
this
is
just
an
application.
But
it's
a
tool
that
the
clerk
has
to
use
to
be
able
to
serve
that
citizen.
And
we
take
that.
E
Really
seriously-
and
we
we
put
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
to
make
sure
that
that
is
something
that
we
can
do
also
with
data
integrity.
We
talked
about
data
quite
a
bit.
We
talked
about
in
previous
sessions.
We
talked
about
how
we're
taking
the
the
vehicle-centric
model
and
moving
it
to
a
customer-centric
model.
The
customer-centric
model
is
really
just
like
any
other
application
that
you
use
today,
where
you
log
on,
and
you
have
all
of
your
information
we're
doing
that
with
cavis.
E
So
whenever
a
citizen
comes
into
the
commonwealth,
our
county
clerk's
office,
they
can
see
all
of
their
vehicles.
They
can
see
their
cars
trucks,
motorcycles,
disabled
placards
mobile
homes,
anything
that
is
under
their
their
customer
record
they'll
be
able
to
see
it
they'll
be
able
to
act
on
it,
they'll
be
able
to
have
awareness
raised
on
when
they
need
to
take
an
action
or,
if
they're,
delinquent
or
if
they
have
something
coming
up,
so
they
they
can
plan
and
have
that
information
ready
for
them.
E
Also
we'll
be
able
to
to
validate
that
information,
because
we
scan
driver's
license
every
day
scan
driver's
license
to
validate
that
customer.
To
lock
down
that
information
and
that
that
not
only
helps
with
data
validity,
but
it
also
decreases
fraud,
whether
it's
it's
you
know
intentional
or
not,
intentional.
Sometimes
information
isn't
the
cleanest
in
the
legacy
system.
So
whenever
we
go
to
a
customer-centric
model,
we
start
putting
customers
together.
E
We
make
sure
that
all
that
information
that
is
pii
or
personally
identifiable
information
is
locked
down
to
that
one,
customer
and
and
they're
able
to
act
on
that.
One
record,
as
opposed
to
having
disparate
records,
where
there
could
be
interpretation
of
that
information.
We
lock
that
down
and
make
sure
that
they
can't
change
that
unless
it
goes
through
the
proper
channels
and
that
it
you
can't
just
go
around
it
so
to
speak.
E
So
so
we
lock
down
those
business
flows
as
well,
so
that
it
really
forces
the
proper
protocol
to
to
take
the
appropriate
actions
and
then,
lastly,
we
kind
of
talked
about
the
customer
accounts
being
linked
and
merged.
There's
millions
and
millions
of
records
out
there
from
the
legacy
system
a
lot
of
that
information,
we're
doing
a
data,
cleansing
and
conversion
effort
on
and
what
that
means
is
basically
from
you
know.
E
Whenever
this
the
legacy
system
was
built
in
the
early
80s
data
has
been
accumulating
and
over
that
time,
we're
taking
those
records
and
making
sure
that
they're
they're
pertinent
making
sure
that
they're
active
that
they
need
to
be
active,
making
sure
that
they're
combined
where
they
need
to
be
combined
and
then
we're
also
building
out
processes,
because
the
computer
can't
do
everything
and
we
don't
expect
to
do
to
do
everything.
We
we
also
built
processes.
So
the
county
clerk
can
actually
take
actions
and
merge
those
records
and
and
standardize
those
records
as
well.
E
Next,
this
is
really
some
some
nice
information
regarding
the
last
fiscal
year,
but
first
I
guess
I
can
talk
about
the
efficiency
and
effectiveness.
E
I've
hit
a
little
bit
on
this
about
the
the
efficiency
and
effectiveness,
but,
along
with
with
modernizing
the
solution
and
building
up
cavis,
so
that
this
application
is
supportable
that
it
can
last
into
the
into
the
future
that
whenever
there's
changes
that
come
along
through
statute
changes
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
cavis
can
accommodate
those
changes
in
a
more
robust
in
a
in
a
more
efficient
in
a
more
reliable
manner
than
the
legacy
can
today,
but
also
what
this
does
is
we
had
the
opportunity
to
go
through
and
look
at
all
the
the
business
processes
that
the
the
county
clerks
go
through
and
we
were
able
to
ask
multiple
questions
like.
E
E
It
saves
headache
it
saves
wasted
effort
and
so
we're
looking
at
reduction
in
time
for
title
application
and
title
receipt
to
the
citizen,
so
we're
reducing
that
time
frame
from
the
time
that
the
customer
comes
into
the
office
to
get
their
new
title
to
whenever
they
get
that
transfer
title
in
their
hand,
we're
also
decreasing
that
clerk
onboarding
whenever
somebody
gets
hired,
it
normally
takes
three
to
six
months
to
get
them
to
the
point
where
they
can
actually
sit
on
the
front
line.
E
We
can
do
that
on
the
same
day,
we're
also
performing
validation
throughout
the
process
to
check
the
county
clerk's
work
so,
instead
of
waiting
to
the
very
end
or
waiting
until
there
was
a
mistake
captured
by
a
quality
check
down
the
line
or
by
someone
in
frankfurt,
frankfurt
we're
actually
doing
the
the
quality
checks
throughout
the
process.
Every
time
they
go
to
a
next
step,
we're
validating
every
time
that
they
put
in
information,
and
then
they
save
that
information.
E
So
they
can
move
on
to
the
next
we're
validating
that
so
that
we're
trying
to
stop
the
problems
before
they
get
too
far
down
the
road.
We're
trying
to
ensure
that
there's
no
issues
that
go
past,
that
county
clerk,
because
once
it
goes
past
the
county
clerk,
it
costs
extra
time,
it
costs
extra
money
and
it
costs
people
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
heartache
and
burden,
and
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
E
We're
increasing
the
opportunity
to
identify
delinquent
taxes
and
collect
on
those
unpaid
taxes.
Just
like
I
said
before,
we're
merging
those
records.
There
could
be
disparate
records
where
people
have
property
titles
to
vehicles,
cars,
trucks,
motorcycles,
that
they
owe
delinquent
taxes
on
and
we'll
be
able
to
collect
that
we
can
email
receipts.
We
can.
If
the
citizen
agrees
to
it,
we
can
put
their
email
address
in
they
can
get
all
that
receipt
and
go
paperless.
E
Now
automated
cash
drawers,
which
just
reduces
the
the
operation
fatigue
that
county
clerks
have
in
their
office,
we're
auto
assigning
tax
districts
for
pvas
and
then
one
of
the
the
main
benefits
that
we
didn't
really
have
before
is
that
there's
increased
visibility
across
all
the
organizations,
and
so
what
that
means
is
people
understand
whenever
they
make
a
an
action
or
they
take.
E
They
take
an
action
in
a
certain
area
that
it
impacts
everybody
else,
because
we
work
in
that
same
ecosystem,
and
so
now
it's
raising
that
awareness
that
whenever
mbo
does
something
it
impacts
dor
whenever
dor
does
something
it
impacts
the
clerks
or
whenever
a
citizen
comes
in
and
they
have,
they
have
a
pva
issue.
We
created
a
an
opportunity
where
clerks
and
pvas
can
work
in
the
same
system
in
real
time
to
solve
those
problems.
E
Instead
of
having
a
citizen
go
back
and
forth
between
offices
and
that's
just
increased
efficiency
for
the
citizen
for
the
clerk
for
the
pva
and
then
also
I
wanted
to
show
you
all
some
of
the
information.
From
from
fiscal
year
21.
we
had
almost
4
million
receipts.
So
that
means
that
whenever
a
citizen
comes
in
and
they
get
a
piece
of
paper,
whether
they're
renewing
one
vehicle
or
100
vehicles,
you
know
almost
4
million
receipts.
Over
4.6
million
citizens
served
in
the
commonwealth
through
the
caves
application.
E
Web
renewals
have
increased
to
43
million
dollars,
which
is
a
significant
increase
over
past
years,
and
then
our
total
sales
that
have
been
processed
through
the
canvas
application
is
over
one
billion
dollars
and
and
the
reason
why
that's
such
a
large
number
is
because
cavis
decided
whenever
we
did
that
point
of
sale
solution.
We
wanted
to
be
able
to
filter
every
single
transaction
and
really
lean
into
that
one
system
mentality,
and
so
we
built
the
point
point-of-sale
solution
that
incorporates
avis
and
cavis
until
we
fully
decommission
the
avis
application.
E
So
out
of
that
that
one
billion
dollars
you
can
see
that
there's
still
a
propensity
to
to
check
out
my
check.
Almost
almost
700
million
dollars
worth
of
checks
throughout
the
commonwealth.
Cash
is
about
110
million,
and
then
credit
cards
actually
increased
about
almost
two
percent
one
about
one
and
a
half
percent
over
last
year
to
129
million
dollars.
E
So
that's
kind
of
the
general
overview
that
we
get
give
every
time,
but
I
wanted
to
kind
of
go
into
a
different
view
on
on
the
project.
E
So
right
now
we
have
about
28
remaining
for
the
development
time.
That's
about
17
months
worth
of
effort,
and
our
target
goal
is
december
2022.,
so,
based
on
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
complete
the
remaining
red
block
within
17
months
and
right
now.
Tavis
is
on
target
to
to
do
that.
We
have
17
months
to
go.
We
have
about
that
amount
of
work
left
to
develop
and
implement,
and
our
budget
meets
that
expectation
as
well.
E
E
E
Out
of
that,
we
had
approximately
15
million
almost
16
million
allocated.
We
had
to
get
an
increase
four
million
dollars
to
be
able
to
finish
out
the
project,
but
that
still
puts
us
well
below
the
initial
allocation.
E
So
the
current
team-
that's
working
on
this
and
and
in
thanks
to
to
heather
stout's
leadership
and
giving
us
the
opportunity
in
the
the
environment
to
be
successful,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
complete
what
we
came
here
to
complete
turn
off
davis
application
with
with
less
budget
than
originally
allocated
for
the
the
previous
caveis
project.
E
So
we
have
about
21
of
the
budget
remaining.
We
have
about
17
months
to
get
things
done
and
we're
on
track
to
get
that
done,
we're
on
time
on
target
and
within
the
budget.
That's
currently
allocated.
E
E
Not
with
the
current
system,
but
we're
actually
working
on
the
least
vehicle,
we
call
it
it's
just
the
least
vehicle
team
and
they're
currently
going
through
that
stuff
that
those
requirements
right
now.
G
A
And
then
just
get
back
with
us
on
that
and
then
on
an
entirely
different
subject
on
online
paperless
titles,
I'm
assuming
once
we
get
this
program
up
and
going
sometime
after
2022
that
that
will
be.
The
next
step
is
to
be
able
to
go
to
paperless
title.
G
G
Yes,
there
are
a
lot
of
additional
services
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
after
we
get
cavis
completed.
It's
going
to
open
up
the
door
for
us
to
be
able
to
offer
additional
things,
and
paperless
titles
is
something
that's
been
discussed
for
years
now
and
I
definitely
think
that's
going
to
be
a
big
topic
of
conversation.
Once
we
get
catas
completed.
Okay,.
A
D
You,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
all
for
the
presentation,
it's
good
to
hear
from
you
on
the
cavis
system,
and
hopefully
that
timeline
holds
true.
I
do
have
one
question
for
you,
former
constituent
of
mine
in
mercer
county
and
a
former
state
employee,
and
I
think
many
people
on
the
committee
have
heard
from
him.
D
He
tells
me
consistently
and
that
we
have
a
lot
of
lost
revenue
from
unregistered
vehicles,
vehicles
that
are
they
reside
in
kentucky,
but
they're
registered
in
other
states
when
this
cave
is
in
full.
You
know
full
capacity
and
you're
trading
information
with
all
those
other
silos
revenue
and
these
other
other
folks.
Will
you
be
able
to
track
some
of
those
folks
down
if
there
is
truly
someone
who
hasn't
paid
their
or
don't
that
lives
in
kentucky,
but
done
that?
Do
not
have
their
vehicle
registered
in
kentucky.
E
Yes,
so
there's
that's
a
that's
a
lofty
question
without
all
the
other
full
details,
but
I
can
tell
you:
maybe
this
will
help
answer
some
of
it.
We
do
have
interfaces
with
amba
with
nimbitas
different
with
the
thing
called
intelligence,
and
so
what
that
does
is,
if
that
other
state
shares
information
with
us
and
somebody
comes
into
the
office
and
they
don't
live
or
they
live
in
kentucky
and
their
vehicle
is
registered
in
ohio
like
we
would
be
able
to
know
if
they
have
that
going
on.
G
Yeah
and
to
add
to
that,
the
data
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
pull
from
the
new
cava
system
and
the
reporting
is
going
to
enable
us
to
do
a
lot
more
analytics.
So
we
can
always
work
with
surrounding
states
potentially
and
be
able
to
kind
of
identify
some
things
like
that
with
revenue
as
well.
I
know
they
had
they
used
to
have
a
program
called
the
freddie
free
rotor
program.
I
think
that's
very
similar
to
what
you're
talking
about
where
they
live
in
kentucky,
but
they're
registering
their
vehicle
in
another
state.
D
Well,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
making
that
a
priority.
I
don't
want
to
do
unfair
taxes,
but
it's
not.
I
I
guess
it's
proper,
to
ask
somebody
to
pay
their
fair
share
if
they're
living
and
driving
that
car
in
kentucky
that
they
registered
in
kentucky.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
you
you,
mr
chair,
referenced
the
online
paperless,
auto
liens
and
my
my
question
is:
do
you
have
any
idea
what
the
cost
savings
would
be?
Have
you
looked
into
that
as
far
as
the
efficiencies
and
and
the
process
we
go
to
what
I
would
consider
a
real-time
system,
and-
and
it's
I'm
assuming
cavis-
has
that
capabilities.
E
We
haven't
completed
a
cost
benefit
analysis
on
the
auto
liens
in
that
automation
or
going
to
paperless
like
e-title,
or
anything
like
that.
Yet
right
now
our
primary
focus
was
to
turn
off
the
mainframe
application
and
then,
as
heather
style
mentioned
earlier
earlier,
there
is
a
list
of
post
turning
off
the
mainframe
items
that
we
would
look
into
and
e-titling
and
and
lean
management.
Things
like
that
are
on
that
list,
especially
whenever
you're
talking
about
paperless
and
automated.
C
Thank
you
one
more
question,
mr
chair.
Certainly
one
other
question.
You
had
mentioned
the
auto-assigning
of
districts
and
the
standardization
of
the
counties
just
wondering
when
it.
When
it
comes
to
title
and
automobile.
I
don't
know
if
I,
if
I
want
it
titled
in
my
county,
it
has
to
be
sent
to
my
county
to
be
titled.
G
So
I
think
there
may
have
to
be
some
further
discussion
on
whether
or
not
those
statutes
are
revised
in
order
to
allow
people
from
one
county
to
title
and
register
in
another
and
then
still
distribute
the
fees
accordingly,
the
system
can
definitely
do
the
fee
distribution
as
needed,
but
I
think
there's
just
so
some
rules
that
prevent
some
of
that
to
have
from
happening
based
on
my.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
all
for
your
testimony
today,
a
constituent
reached
out
to
me
a
while
back,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
on
the
right
page
here,
the
current
system,
it
recently
went
through
a
shutdown
didn't
it.
E
Sure
so
the
reason
for
the
shutdown
is
that
whenever
we
talk
about
the
shutdown
that
was
actually
on
the
legacy
system,
the
one
that
we're
trying
to
move
away
from-
and
it
kind
of
goes
back
to.
The
point
that
I
was
talking
about
earlier-
is
that
the
system
was
built
and
I'm
not
trying
to
make
excuses.
E
But
ultimately,
what
was
happening
is
that
the
legacy
system
is
not
friendly
to
work
on
and
there's
a
lot
of
issues
with
the
the
it's
very
cumbersome,
and
that
is
one
of
the
driving
factors
on
why
we
need
to
get
cavis
completed
because
it
it's
just
really
tough
to
keep
up
with
changes
whenever
you're
working
on
a
mainframe
application.
That
is
hard
to
support.
E
There's
not
very
many
people
that
can
even
do
that
anymore.
There's
no
talent
left
in
the
in
the
workforce
to
be
able
to
work
on
that.
Those
changes
and
again
that
just
makes
this
program
gave
us
so
much
so
important
and
the
impact
was,
I
think
some
of
the
offices
stayed
open
and
some
of
them
decided
to
close.
E
E
G
G
I
think
some
of
the
issues
were
based
on
volume
of
transactions
from
a
performance
standpoint,
so
some
of
the
offices
that
stayed
open
found
that
since
so
many
closed,
they
were
then
able
to
do
some
transactions
without
a
problem.
So
once
we
got
that
resolved
though,
and
and
identified
the
primary
issue,
they
were
all
able
to
reopen.
You
know
by
the
end
of
that
week.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
john
heather,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
talking
to
us
today
and
I'm
trying
to
get
catch
up
on
what
y'all
been
doing
for
some
time,
and
I
appreciate
the
boris
process
and
I've
gone
through
some
conversions
in
the
past
and
it's
not
an
easy
task,
particularly
when
you're
dealing
around
25
million
dollars
of
work
to
be
done.
But
I
have
a
hopefully,
hopefully
a
question
you
might
be
able
to
answer.
D
If
not
drag
me
in
the
right,
correct
direction
because,
like
I
said,
I'm
trying
to
catch
up,
but
I
had
a
constituent
to
try
to
went
in
and
he
totaled
his
car
to
get
a
salvage
title
and
the
clerk
took
his
tag
and
he
was
out
of
any
title
and
he
couldn't
drive
anything
even
though
he
got
the
car
fixed
fairly
quickly,
even
though
it
was
total,
which
was
still
beyond
me.
I
had
to
get
that
that
the
bodywork
guy,
but
any
event
what
you're
doing
is.
D
G
Typically,
vehicles
that
are
total
and
then
they
go
through
a
rebuilt
process
do
take
extra
time
because
they
have
to
review
pictures
of
all
of
the
work.
That's
performed
and
verify
that
it's
performed
according
to
you
know,
safety
and
things
like
that.
G
G
D
Okay,
if,
if
you
can
just
let
me
know
or
send
me
an
email
on
who
I
can
talk
to
to
get
a
little
more
clarification,
I
appreciate
it.
D
A
Heather
john,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
today,
very
informative,
john.
Your
back
wall
reminds
me
of
my
refrigerator
home
posted
notes.
Are
help
keep
me
on
task
because
my
wife
has
always
given
me
something
to
do
so.
That's
where
I
go
to
look
guess
here.
It
works.
E
A
Next
is
robin:
brewer
is
going
to
give
us
an
update
on
the
or
the
final
report
of
the
road
fund.
Robert,
are
you
with
us.
F
F
Right,
okay,
so
I
have
a
pretty
short
presentation
here
and
I
know
you
all
are
going
to
be
looking
at
it
online
as
I
go.
So
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
turn
to
slide
two.
F
So,
as
you
know,
the
committee
is
obviously
very
aware
of
the
last
two
legislative
sessions
you
all
have
had
to
prepare
a
one-year
budget
each
year
instead
of
a
biennial
budget
as
you're
used
to
all.
F
You
know,
due
to
the
uncertainty
of
poland
and
because
of
that,
the
consensus
forecasting
group
and
the
cfg
have
also
had
to
come
in
multiple
times
over
the
course
of
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
so
they
did
meet
back
in
december
of
2020
and
the
purpose
of
that
was
to
revise
the
united
revenue
estimate
for
fy
2021,
which
was
the
current
fiscal
year
and
also
to
revise
their
revenue
estimate
for
2022
all
in
preparation
of
the
legislative
session
that
was
coming
up
in
january.
F
So
during
that
december
meeting
the
cfg
revised
the
2021
revenue
estimate
up
about
34
million
dollars
from
1
billion
five
hundred
forty
three
million
four
hundred
thousand
to
one
billion
five
hundred.
Seventy
seven
million
seven
hundred
thousand
actual
road
fund
revenues
for
2021
came
in
at
one
billion
six
hundred
forty
two
million
three
hundred
thousand.
B
F
F
F
F
F
F
So,
comparing
actual
road
fun
revenues
for
2021
to
2020,
the
total
2021
receipts
were
150.8
million.
More
than
2020.
motor
fuel
tax
receipts
increased
0.9
percent
for
the
year.
They
declined
in
each
of
the
first
three
quarters
and
stood
at
negative
5.6
through
nine
months
as
kentuckians
limited.
Their
travel
and
more
people
opted
to
work
from
home
before
finally
rebounding
in
the
in
the
fourth
quarter,
as
people
began
to
resume
travel
and
return
to
the
workplace.
F
121.6
million
increase
in
the
motor
vehicle
usage
receipts
accounted
for
about
80
percent
of
the
road
fund's
annual
increase
motor
vehicle
license
receipts
increased
16.9
million,
while
motor
vehicle
operators
receipts
rose
by
9.1
million
investment.
Income
fell
by
6.8
million,
while
other
income
grew
3.5
million
next
slide.
F
The
official
united
road
fund
revenue
estimate
for
2022
is
1
billion,
609
million
200
000,
for
which
the
budget
was
enacted.
In
april,
the
motor
fuel
tax
rate
has
been
set
again
at
the
statutory
floor
for
all
of
fy
2022.,
according
to
the
quarterly
economic
and
revenue
report
for
the
fourth
quarter
of
fy
2021
from
the
office
of
the
state
budget.
Director
road
fund
revenues
are
forecasted
to
return
to
a
more
normal
growth
pattern.
After
two
years
of
large
quarterly
fluctuations,
it's
estimated
that
revenues
will
grow
4.6
over
the
first
nine
months
of
2022.
F
Motor
vehicle
usage
taxes
are
forecasted
to
increase
2.8
percent
over
the
first
three
quarters
of
fy
2022,
while
collections
in
this
account
were
extremely
strong
in
2021,
and
expectations
are
that
automobile
cells
will
cool
off
receipts
in
this
account
are
still
anticipated
to
increase
in
the
first
three
quarters
of
the
fiscal
year
motor
vehicle
license
fees
are
expected
to
increase
1.3
percent
weight.
Distance
taxes
are
expected
to
grow
7.6
motor
vehicle
operator
operators
license
are
forecasted
to
rise
11.1
and
the
other
category
is
expected
to
increase
about
0.6
next
slide.
F
F
You
know
th.
This
slide
obviously
shows
all
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
now
for
years
about
fy14,
before
we
had
the
gas
tax
decline
of
six
and
a
half
cents
that
really
started
in
the
late
part
of
fy15,
but
really
we
didn't
feel
the
impact
of
that
into
16.
So
you
can
see
that
that
in
the
chart-
and
then
you
know
I've
mentioned
before
in
f119-
it
took
us
five
years
to
get
back
to
the
level
we
were
at
in
collections
in
fy14
and
then
obviously
coveted.
F
So
obviously,
that's
reflected
in
fy
2020,
and
now
we
have
2021,
which
obviously
looks
like
a
really
good
year,
but
something
I
just
you
know
like
to
remind
you
all
is
again
the
gas
taxes
at
the
statutory
floor
for
all
this
fiscal
year.
This
will
now
be
the
seventh
full
fiscal
year
that
the
statutory
floor,
or
that
the
gas
tax
has
been
at
the
statute.
F
For
so
you
know,
even
though
we've
had
some
increases,
especially
this
year
and
in
the
prior
years,
a
lot
of
that
was
due
to
primarily
the
motor
vehicle
usage
tax
and
just
being
unprecedented
beyond
the
unprecedented
growth
that
we've
seen
in
that
category.
Now
this
year
I
mean
with
a
64.6
million
dollar
surplus.
F
You
know,
52.3
million
of
that
is
the
motor
vehicle
usage
tax.
So
again,
we'll
will
be
appreciative
of
that
extra
revenue,
but
knowing
that
you
know
that
revenue
stream
is
not
likely
to
remain
that
way,
long
term
and
we
still
have
our
largest
component,
which
is
the
gas
tax
at
the
statutory
floor.
So
and
that
concludes
my
presentation.
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair
hi,
robin
I
appreciate
you
going
on
the
numbers
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
looking
at
this
correctly
and
I
do
not
don't
know
what
slide
it
is,
but
it's
actual
versus
actual
over
20
to
21.
and
compare
that
to
your
estimate
for
2022.
D
We
were
out
just
close
to
1.5
and
20
1.64,
2
and
21
and
go
about
1.6.
So
that's
so
that's
a
decrease.
Would
you
look?
Would
you
consider
the
budget
for
the
2022
to
be
an
optimistic
or
controlled
approach
or
pessimistic
approach.
F
Well,
I
mean
that's
really,
probably
a
question
for
the
governor's
office
of
economic
analysis,
they're,
actually,
staff
to
the
consensus,
forecasting,
group
and
they're
the
ones
that
run
the
different
scenarios
for
revenue
estimates.
I
will
say
you
know,
though,
that
the
2022
estimate
was
put
together
back
in
december
of
2020..
F
Report
out
of
the
state
budget
director's
office,
I
think
that
they
probably
feel
like
this
2022
estimate
is
probably
lower
than
it
should
be.
So
I'm
guessing
that
when
the
cfg
comes
in
here
very
soon,
they're
likely
to
revise
that
upward.
How
much
I
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
that's
the
indications
that
we've
seen
from
the
quarterly
report
that
just
came
out.
F
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
the
ability
to
get
that
information
or
not
I'll,
probably
have
to
check
with
the
department
of
revenue
they're
the
ones
that
actually
collect
that
revenue
for
us.
I
can.
I
can
inquire
and
see
what
we
can
find
out.
D
Okay
and
the
reason
I'm
going
with
that
is
that
obviously
there's
a
tax
credit
and
so
forth-
that's
involved
in
the
used
portion
of
it
and
so
forth.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
just
a
better
handle
on
that.
But
thanks
robin
thanks.
Mr
chairman,.
C
C
C
E
F
You
know
the
types
of
vehicles,
whether
again,
like
it's
a
motor
carrier,
a
larger
weight
vehicle,
whether
it's
diesel
or
gasoline.
Those
are
the
kinds
of
factors
that
we.
C
When
you
do
an
estimate
on
the
gas
tax,
if
there
was
an
increase
in
it
say
per
penny,
do
you
have
a
formula
or
do
you
have
discussions
on
how
much
of
that
would
be
out
of
state?
I
know
you're
you're
saying
it's
hard
to
pin
it
down,
but
is
that
let's
say
there
was
hypothetically
a
10
cent
increase
in
the
gas
tax?
E
F
At
a
passenger
level,
not
that
I'm
aware
of
again
it's
you
know,
I
think
we
do
look
at
certain
things
for
motor
carriers,
especially
ones
that
pay
a
weight
distance
tax
because
they
pay
part
of
the
gas
tax
as
well.
F
C
So
the
estimate
on
30
million
per
penny
is
directly
considered
in
state
or
is
that
as
a
whole,
again.
A
Are
there
any
other
questions?
Okay,
robin.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
today.
It's
always
good
to
have
you
with
us.
A
You'll,
be
here
more
often
all
right.
Next
on
the
agenda
is
agency
correspondents
from
ksp
and
kytc.
A
A
A
Are
there
any
questions?
We
have
no
questions,
that
is,
that
is
good.
The
next
will
be.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
on
tuesday
september,
the
7th
at
1
pm
in
this
room,
and
thank
you
all
for
attending
today,
oh
senator
turner,
you
wanted
to
put
something
on
the
record,
so
I.
A
C
There's,
no
question
that
all
the
representatives
and
senators
in
that
area,
so
that-
and
I
talked
to
ms
lafner,
who
I
saw
was
on
her
office
here
and
just
to
make
that
clear.
So
the
department
of
transportation
is
on
board
with
the
recommendations
of
the
body
that
represents
that
area.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.