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A
D
A
Did
we
make
it
all
right?
We
do
have
a
quorum
briefly,
I'm
going
to
leave
roles
open
because
I
know
some
of
you
all
are
going
to
be
going
through
trap,
doors
and
everything
else
to
record
votes.
We
have
four
committee
meetings
going
on
at
the
same
time
this
morning,
so
we
will
keep
the
rolls
open.
All
right,
I
ask
everyone
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
and
brother
fugit
is
going
to
lead
us
in
prayer.
If
you
want
to
remain
standard.
F
Let's
pray
together,
heavenly
father,
thank
you
for
a
brand
new
day
that
you've
allowed
us
to
live
and
Lord
the
Bible
says.
This
is
the
day
that
you've
made.
We
will
rejoice
and
be
glad
in
it.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
serve
you
and
to
serve
our
people.
Please
watch
over
our
military,
our
First
Responders
and
all
those
that
are
protecting
us
today
and
working
today,
please
be
with
them
and
guide
them
and
guide
us
Lord
in
our
decisions.
Give
us
your
wisdom,
and
may
we
please
you
in
all
we
do.
A
G
Floor
is
yours.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I
have
Don
Jenkins
here
with
me.
Today
he
resides
in
Butler
County,
where
I
represent
and
he
is
a
Medal
of
Honor
recipient
and
I
believe
he's
the
only
Medal
of
Honor
recipient
living
in
Kentucky
at
this
time.
At
this
time,
so
I
I'm
going
to
read
the
citation
from
his
his
Medal
of
Honor
citation
and
honestly
when
I
each
time
I've
read
this
I
kind
of
it's
hard
not
to
tear
up
when
you
read
the
things
that
that
he
did
to
receive
this
medal.
G
So
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
read
this
to
everyone
for
conspicuous
gallantry
and
Intrepid
in
action
at
the
risk
of
his
life
above
and
beyond
the
Call
of
Duty
special
Sergeant
Jenkins
company,
a
distinguished
himself
while
serving
as
a
machine
gunner
on
a
reconnaissance
mission.
When
his
company
came
under
heavy
Crossfire
from
an
enemy,
complex,
special
Sergeant,
Jenkins
and
hesitantly
maneuvered
for
forward
to
a
perishly
exposed
position
and
began
placing
suppressive
fire
on
the
enemy.
When
his
own
machine
gun
jammed,
he
immediately
obtained
a
rifle
and
continued
to
fire
into
the
enemy
bunkers.
G
Until
his
machine
gun
was
made
operative
by
his
assistant,
he
exposed
himself
to
extremely
heavy
fire
when
he
repeatedly
both
ran
and
crawled
across
open
terrain
to
obtain
resupplies
of
ammunition
until
he
had
exhausted.
All
that
was
available
for
his
machine
gun,
displaying
tremendous
presence
of
mind.
He
then
armed
himself
with
two
anti-tank
weapons
and
by
himself
maneuvered
through
the
Hostile
few
slave
to
within
20
meters
of
an
enemy
bunker
to
destroy
that
position.
G
After
moving
back
to
the
friendly
defensive
parameter,
long
enough
to
secure
yet
another
weapon,
a
grenade
launcher
special
Sergeant
Jenkins
moved
forward
to
a
position
providing
no
protection
and
resume
placing
accurate
fire
on
the
enemy
until
his
ammunition
was
again
exhausted.
During
this
time
he
was
seriously
wounded
by
shrapnel
undaunted
and
displaying
great
courage.
G
A
C
Well,
I,
don't
thank
you
all
for
having
me
up
here,
representative
Reimer,
for
inviting
me
up
and
that
I
know
y'all
have
a
busy
day,
but
the
citation
is
kind
of
glossy
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
happen,
that
you
know
that
it
didn't
happen
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
You
know
just
a
little
preview
here
if
you
got
just
a
minute.
Oh.
C
A
H
A
Yeah
any
other
members
like
the
comment
or
anything.
Well
what
we'd
love
for
you
to
do
is
representative
Raymer
has
something
for
you.
If
you
and
Herb
would
step
into
the
front,
and
can
we
get
pictures
there
or
so
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
if
all
committee
members
we
have
two
or
three
I
think
did
Senator
Adams
leave
right
now.
We
at
least
have
two
Center,
Turner
and
Dean,
and
in
case
we
are
all
going
to
come
and
join
around
him.
Get
a
big
group
photo
with
them.
A
I
I
H
A
Did
Center
Adams
come
back
in
I,
don't
see
her
right
now
we
will
Senator
Dean
and
do
you
care
to
jump
ahead
of
her
and
why
don't
you
come
on
up
and
we're
gonna
go
out
of
order
just
a
little
bit
we'll
start
with
Senate
bill119
and
please
you
know
the
routine
but
make
sure
that
lights
on
and
please
have
your
guests
introduce
themselves.
Make
sure
that
green
light's
on.
J
Mr
chairman
committee
members,
Senate
Bill
119,
is
is
a
clarification
bill.
It
does
clean
up
some
language
in
some
different
statutes,
as
it
relates
to
sexual
assault
and
sexual
contact
and
sexual
abuse.
Currently,
Kentucky
is
one
of
the
poorest
ranking
States
in
our
country
and
I.
Believe.
If
we're
going
to
change
those
rankings,
we
must
start
with
legislation
giving
our
attorneys
giving
our
judges
the
opportunity
to
prosecute
and
defend
those
victims
and
prosecute
the
perpetrators.
J
J
J
It
avoids
two
different
definitions
of
sexual
abuse,
and
this
will
help
both
child
and
adult
victims
of
this
type
of
behavior.
Again
it
brings
the
dvo
statutes
in
line
with
IPO
statutes,
with
uniformed
language,
by
adding
sexual
assault
to
the
dvo
statute
and
defining
it
and
deleting
the
term
sexual
abuse.
It
clarifies
that
the
behavior
for
which
a
dvo
could
be
granted
is
far
more
broad
than
just
sexual
abuse,
as
defined
in
the
criminal
code
of
which,
because
it
has
never
been
defined
in
the
dvo
statute.
It
has
caused
confusion.
J
I
struggle
and
have
had
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
children
that
are
unfortunate
victims
of
sexual
abuse,
as
it
was
stated
before
when
it
comes
to
sexual
gratification.
Many
defense
lawyers
were
simply
reinserting
bad
abuse
to
these
child
victims,
while
they're
on
the
stand
I
Believe
by
broadening
the
definitions
when
it
comes
to
sexual
abuse,
sexual
contact.
J
This
bill
helps
in
that
manner.
It
helps
to
prevent
those
things
from
happening
on
a
broader
scale,
so
we
use
best
practices.
I
talk
to
attorneys
Commonwealth
attorneys
I
talked
to
Family
Court
judges.
There
was
a
committee
substitute
and
a
floor
amendment
that
were
all
brought
by
Commonwealth
attorneys
and
attorneys
to
clarify
language.
The
clarify
definitions,
to
make
sure
this
bill
was
right
and
I
brought
with
me
today
to
very
knowledgeable
people
and
I
would
ask
for
their
comments
at
this
time.
L
L
Is
it
or
pull
it
closer?
Yeah,
that's
perfect!
Thank
you
all
right
for
those
of
you
who
are
not
familiar
with
Children's
Advocacy
centers.
We
provide
forensic
interviews,
medical
exams,
Mental
Health,
Services
and
advocacy
to
child
victims
of
abuse
about
63
percent
of
the
cases
we
see
are
sexual
abuse
and
we
served
over
7
500
children
last
year.
So
we
we've
interviewed
a
lot
of
child
victims
of
abuse
and
have
a
lot
of
experience.
L
Listening
to
Children
make
disclosures
and
I
just
want
to
add
to
what
Senator
Dineen
said
with
a
couple
of
sort
of
practical
comments
about
how
this
plays
out
for
our
children.
So
there's
like
there's
a
couple
big
issues.
Number
one
is
the
the
current
definition
of
sexual
contact
again
just
requires
us
to
document
improve
sexual
gratification,
and
we
don't
always
know
why
a
perpetrator
abuses,
but
what
we
do
know
for
sure
is
that
there
are
a
number
of
reasons.
It
could
be
sexual
gratification
or
it
could
be
a
number
of
other
issues.
L
It
could
be
human
humiliation,
it
could
be
Revenge,
it
could
be
punishment,
it
could
be
something
else
right,
and
so
there
are
a
number
of
potential
reasons
why
a
perpetrator
might
might
commit
this
act
of
abuse
and
then
the
the
other
big
issue
is
when
you're
interviewing
a
child.
Imagine
a
child,
you
know
seven
or
eight
years
old.
L
They
may
not
be
able
to
comprehend
or
articulate
what
happened
very
well
and
they
also
in
particular,
when
it
comes
to
documenting
sexual
gratification,
and
so
our
Specialists
and
interviewers
at
a
Children's,
Advocacy
Center
will
ask
sensory
type
questions
and
so,
for
example,
a
child
might
say
well
that
they
heard
some
noises
or
something
like
that,
and
that
will
allow
a
prosecutor
to
infer
that
there
might
be
sexual
gratification
in
that
case.
So
you
can
imagine
those
conversations
are
difficult.
L
It's
a
very
difficult
thing
to
document
for
a
child
or
for
anyone,
and
so
what
this
law
does
is.
It
removes
the
requirement
that
you
have
to
prove
sexual
gratification
and
allows
there
to
be
other
purposes
right,
so
again,
revenge
or
humiliation
or
punishment
or
something
else,
and
so
that
that's
an
improvement
on
this.
This
law-
and
you
know
we
just
really
appreciate
Senator
Dineen,
taking
on
this
important
issue.
L
A
N
Blend,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman,
just
a
clarification
here
in
sexual
contact.
We're
talking
about
evening
touching
of
clothing
can
be
considered
sexual
contact.
Then
we
come
down
to
punishment
number
three
and
we
strike
out
all
the
language
of
punishment.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
by
touching
the
clothing
and
Punishment,
if
someone's
getting
spanked
by
the
hand
is,
is
that
going
to
be
then
considered?
No.
J
J
O
Thank
you
I
appreciate
the
senator
bringing
this
I
know.
My
family
court
judges
reached
out
to
me
at
the
beginning
of
the
week
worried
that
we
were
not
gonna,
so
I.
Thank
him
for
that
and
I
would
also
just
as
a
family
law
attorney
say
how
many
times
that
I've
had
clients
come
to
me
and
describe
things
like
maybe
they're,
taking
showers
things
of
that
nature,
where
there's
not
touching
and
there's
not
penetration,
so
this
was
very
much
needed
so
I.
Thank
you.
E
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
this
forward
I'm
glad
that
it
was
able
to
be
heard
as
a
former
foster
parent
with
this
state
for
six
and
a
half
years.
We
have
a
real
problem
on
our
hand
here
we
are
number
one
in
the
nation
for
child
abuse
here,
and
it
is
really
important
that
we
expand
any
type
of
policies
and
legislations
to
protect
children
and
that's
what
this
does
and
I
really
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
A
H
H
O
F
P
P
G
A
A
A
R
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee
good
morning,
we're
here
to
talk
about
Senate,
Bill
79,
the
safe
at
home,
Act
Kentucky
has
one
of
the
highest
rates
and
in
some
sort
of
Base
the
highest
rate
of
domestic
violence
in
our
nation.
That
is
sickening
sad
and
terrifying.
What's
even
worse
is
that
government
facilitates
this
through
unnecessary
publication
of
individuals,
physical
addresses
when
a
victim
decides
to
leave
and
find
a
safe
place.
Often
her
abuser
is
able
to
find
her,
sometimes
by
finding
her
new
location
through
easily
accessible
and
free
public
records.
R
We
can
and
must
do
more
to
protect
victims.
Currently,
my
office
runs
the
address
confidentiality
program.
It
is
a
little-known
creation
from
2013
that
allows
people
with
protective
orders
to
have
their
addresses
hidden
when
registering
to
vote.
Instead,
the
state
capitol
is
the
listed
voting
address
on
public
records.
R
Only
my
office
in
the
county
clerk
know
their
real
addresses
where
absentee
ballots
can
be
sent,
so
they
can
vote
in
safety.
That's
a
worthy
idea
and
my
predecessor
deserves
credit
for
it.
However,
it's
time
that
we
do
more,
the
existing
address
confidentiality
program
is
extremely
limited
and
has
fewer
than
50
participants.
Statewide
studies
show
some
45
percent
of
Kentucky
women
and
35
percent
of
Kentucky
men
have
experienced
domestic
violence
a
lot
more
than
50
people.
R
There
are
two
core
issues
with
our
current
program.
First,
it
only
applies
to
a
victim's
voting
record,
so
her
new
address
will
only
be
masked
on
the
voter
rolls,
but
still
visible
on
other
public
records.
Second,
requiring
that
participants
have
an
active
protective
order
against
an
abuser
can
be
counterproductive.
As
that
process
May
reveal
their
new
address
to
their
abuser
and
is
noted.
The
vast
majority
of
domestic
abuse
victims
don't
obtain
a
protective
order.
R
The
general
assembly
and
I
have
worked
together
these
past
three
years
to
modernize
our
election
process
and
borrow
good
ideas
from
other
states.
This
is
another
example.
If
Senate
Bill
79
becomes
law,
it
will
bring
our
program
in
line
with
38
other
states
that
provide
a
comprehensive
program
masking
addresses
on
all
public
records.
R
A
Q
H
O
O
C
C
B
C
K
A
Well,
it
passes
unanimous
also.
We
will
listen
for
it
on
the
floor
or
hopefully
on
the
consent,
if
they
revive
it
so
secretary,
Adams
and
and
everyone
that's
also
great,
to
see
you
all,
and
we
appreciate
you
being
here
this
morning,
all
right.
We
got
one
more
Center,
Turner
come
Brett,
come
on
up
and
bring
your
guest.
A
I
I
M
I
I
S
This
is
legislation.
We've
worked
on
for
the
last
several
years
to
bring
it
in
line
and
get
all
these
other
officers
around
the
state
in
there.
We
believe
it's
needed,
especially
to
help
our
smaller
agencies
retain.
It
is
permissible
legislation,
so
it's
up
to
the
city
or
the
state
to
decide
if
they
want
to
enforce
these
contracts,
but
it
does
give
us
something
in
this
current
time
where
we're
trying
to
recruit
and
keep
people.
S
M
Yep
and
we
appreciate
Senator
Turner,
allowing
us
to
work
with
him
also
provides
Clarity.
There
have
been
situations
where
some
of
the
school
police
departments
have
hired
City
police
officers
and
not
wanted
to
participate
in
what
we
believe
was
already
in
statute,
and
so
our
city
taxpayers,
our
taxpayers,
provide
the
funding
for
the
training
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
getting
their
money
worth.
And
so
we
appreciate
support
on
this
bill
motion.
A
F
You
Mr
chairman,
so
let
me
understand
the
senator
Turner.
So
if
I'm
a
21
year
old
young
man
want
to
go
to
the
police
academy,
get
hired
on
by
the
hazard
City
Police,
then,
if
I,
if
I
sign
a
contract
for
three
years,
the
way
it
is
now
then
I
I
have
to
stay
there.
Three
years
before,
I
could
better
myself
from
going
to
the
state
police
which
pays
more.
Is
that
right?
I
What
this
does
thank
you,
representative,
fugit
I,
don't
think
you'll
end
up
paying
it
back.
I
think
the
organization
that
hires
you
is
going
to
be
responsible
for
paying
that
back.
We
have
I
forgot
to
tell
you
in
the
opening
part
too.
We
have
surrounding
states
Tennessee's
doing
it.
I
was
told
regularly
recruiting
officers
that
are
trained
here
and
then
putting
them
to
work
in
that
state
without
any
cost
to
that.
I
F
S
Would
either
be
if
the
state
decided
so
decided
or
the
individual
officer?
They
would
know
that
going
in
so
it
usually.
What
we
see
happening
is.
Is
the
agency
ends
up
picking
up
the
tab
if
they
want
to
bring
that
officer
over
but
by
the
statute?
I
believe
the
employee
could
be
held
responsible,
but
they
should
know
this
going
in,
because
you
have
to
sign
it.
Then,
okay,.
A
P
Is
it
similar
to
a
no
compete
clause
that
basically
time
and
distance,
so,
if
they're,
if
they're,
what,
if
their
families
moving
across
the
state
and
they're
more
than
100
miles
away
or
50
miles
away
and
they've
been
out
of
the
police
for
a
year
now?
Does
that
would
they
still
be
required
to
pay
the
the.
I
I
Think
that
will
happen,
but
there
were
so
many
officers
that
were
going
like
I
said
that
out
of
state
was
one
of
the
big
problems
and
recruiting
across
the
borders
and
in-house
also
inside
the
state.
So
this
is
just
a
taxpayer
relief
plan
to
take
care
of
the
people
that
pay.
This
to
get
some
reimbursement
back
and
if
you
go
make
a
contract
with
a
new
agency
they're
going
to
ask
you
I
would
assume
about
this,
because
it's
all
over
the
state
has
that
been
paid.
S
Sir
to
your
question
on
the
non-compete:
no,
that's,
not
a
non-compete!
If
you
were
out
if
I
think
I
understood
you
correctly,
if
you
were
out
and
want
somewhere
to
work,
know
that
the
contract
would
not
apply.
This
applies
to
new
trainees.
This
is
not
going
to
apply
to
a
veteran
officer
who
has
done
their
time.
This
is
only
if
we're
putting
you
through
the
academy
and
investing
all
of
that
training
into
you.
I
A
A
N
S
N
S
It
is
not
prorated
for
the
cities
and
the
counties
it
is
prorated
for
the
state.
The
state
is
the
one
that
loses
money
on
this,
your
universities
when
they
are
trained
and
they
pull
them
out
of
there
prior
to
the
raises
for
the
State
Police
last
year
they
were
done.
All
State
agencies
were
done
on
for
whatever
reason
on
a
sliding
scale
in
the
bill.
This
removes
that
sliding
scale.
So
not
only
does
it
benefit
the
cities,
the
counties,
but
it's
all
because
so
could
be
a
benefit
to
the
state.
K
H
E
You
know
is
in
this
position
for
two
or
three
years
and
then
just
says
you
know
what,
for
whatever
reasons
this
isn't
working
for
me,
this,
maybe
isn't.
The
right
position
for
me
leaves
that
position
takes
the
position
completely
outside
of
this
field
for
any
amount
of
time,
two
weeks,
two
months
two
years
and
then
decides
at
a
later
date.
They
want
to
return
to
this
industry
is:
is
there
an?
I
I
As
I
would
understand
it,
the
five
years
is
going
to
still
be
there
once
the
five
years
passed.
There
would
be
no
liability
owed,
but
that
five
years
could
be
there,
because
if
you
didn't
have
that
people
could
just
do
what
you
just
said
leave
for
a
few
months
to
get
out
of
that
and
go
somewhere
else.
So
the
five
years
is
the
catch-all,
but
it
still,
as
representative
Blanton
said,
it's
negotiable
if
you
do
go
to
another
agency.
E
To
make
sure
I'm
understanding
this
correctly
so
does
that?
Does
that
mean
that
there's
any
sort
of
responsibility
that's
put
on
the
new
organization
that
is
hiring
so,
if
I'm
bringing
somebody
in?
Is
it
my
responsibility
to
see
if
they
did
not
work
a
full
five
years
if
they
paid
paid
that
out
so
to
speak
right,
like
you're,
buying
yourself
out
of
a
a
contract,
I
mean
this.
This
makes
me
think
about
cell
phone
carriers.
Well,.
I
If
you
make
an
application
to
any
employer,
you're
going
to
fill
out
an
extended
application,
that's
going
to
notify
them
of
that.
The
only
other
thing
that
that
I've
heard
is
that
some
officers
want
to
just
walk
away
and
not
show
up
if
they
get
fired,
then
they're
trying
to
use
that
as
a
basis,
but
I,
don't
think
from
a
legal
perspective
that
that's
another
matter,
but
as
a
lawyer
that
that's
going
to
work
for
them
either.
So
it
you
can't
just
walk
away
from
it
and
not
be
responsible.
I
I
Well,
I
wonder
if,
when
they
fill
out
the
application
and
I'm
there's
some
police
officers
in
here
they're
going
to
ask
you
your
past
work.
History,
you're
going
to
the
agency
is
hiring.
You
is
going
to
know
all
that
and
yes,
they
could
contact
that
other
agency
to
determine
whether
or
not
there's
anything
old,
whether
you're
totally
released.
That
would
be
the
responsibility
of
Ages
and
the
officer.
That's
been
retained,
I'm
sure
they're,
going
to
ask
him
how
long
and
they're
going
to
have
his
records
or
hers.
S
P
I
think
this
is
a
a
good
bill
and
a
great
attempt
at
trying
to
retain
police
officers.
My
concern
is
that
police
officers-
don't
just
they
leave
for
a
various
reasons.
It
could
be
poor
leadership.
It
could
be
poor
pay.
It
could
be.
An
array
of
there
could
be
opportunity
for
promotion
at
another
place
that
there's
not
at
this
one.
So
I
see
that
there's
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
but
I
think
on
the
other
side
of
the
coin.
I
In
response
to
that,
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
a
big
problem,
because
the
Hiring
Agency
is
going
to
be
tickled
to
death.
They've
got
somebody
already
trained
that
they're
not
going
to
be
responsible
for
center
for
the
training,
so
they're
going
to
be
more
than
glad
to
pay
that
agency.
That's
done
paid
for
this
person
a
check
rather
than
having
a
that
problem.
So
I
don't
see
that
it's
going
to
be
a
problem
Statewide,
because
this
is
a
Statewide
bill
for
all
agencies
that
have
officers
so
I.
N
N
H
S
M
I
Yeah
we
added
all
these
agencies
I
mentioned
before
my
report
boards.
The
university
is
the
fish
and
wildlife
to
cover
all
those
boards
that
were
school
boards.
That's
now
retaining
and
I
saw
where
one
school
board
said
it's
going
to
cost
them
half
a
million
dollars
to
get
their
officers
up
and
running
and
trained,
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
it's
going
to
happen
to
and
everybody
never
as
bad
as
district
is
going
to
have
impact.
If,
if
this
bill
wouldn't
vast.
O
O
O
F
My
vote
please,
no,
because
I
feel
like
three
years
is
a
is
a
good
number
where
we're
at
and
if
you've
got
a
young
officer
that
works
three
years
for
a
department
and
wants
to
go
to
a
agency
that
pays
25
or
30
000.
More
then
I
think
he
should
be
able
to
do
that
after
three
years.
So
I'm
gonna
know
today.
E
G
K
E
K
K
You
in
here
he's
right
there
all
right
Mark
over
here
and
then
we
got
Jessica
Zay
and
we've
got
Logan
chaff
over
here
and
that's
the
staff
for
vmap
and
they
keep
us
on
time
and
on
target
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
recognize
their
efforts
and
tell
you
guys.
We
really
appreciate
everything
you
do.
A
All
right
also
I
want
to
take
Chairman's
privilege,
thank
you
corianne
and
please
for
the
wonderful
tour.
We
had
a
dozen
of
y'all
that
were
able
to
make
it
over
to
National
Guard
Boon
National
Guard
yesterday.
That
presentation
was
phenomenal
beforehand.
So
please
convey
our
thank
you
to
General,
Lamberton
and,
and
we
appreciate
and
and
appreciate
the
air
flight
too.
So
so
all
right,
we
might
have
another
meeting,
but
as
of
now,
we
have
none
scheduled,
but
we'll
see,
and
if
nothing
else
we
stand
adjourned.