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E
A
First,
item
on
the
agenda
is
House
Bill
302.
It
does
have
a
committee
sub
and
representative
Decker
representative
Rachel,
Roberts
and
representative
Josh
branscom
I
just
introduced
you,
but
introduce
yourself
and
your
floor
is
yours.
D
Chairman
members
of
the
committee
I'm
just
introduce
myself
and
I'm
here
today
to
speak
about
House,
Bill
302,
of
which
I
am
the
primary
sponsor
with
me,
are
the
representatives
who
are
co-sponsors
of
the
bill
and
you
just
they
were
just
identified.
There
is
a
proposed
committee
sub
that
I
make
a
motion
to
put
before
the
committee.
D
D
D
First
representative
Rachel
Roberts
Bill
drafted
a
section
that
directs
the
Office
of
the
Attorney
General
to
establish
a
uniform
procedure
and
timelines
when
conducting
independent
election
inquiries
in
the
various
counties.
This
provision
aims
to
ensure
accountability,
give
internal
controls
to
ensure
each
audit
is
performed
and
how
it
is
performed
and
the
process.
Additionally,
it
directs
the
office
of
Attorney
General
to
issue
regulations
to
designate
what
forms
are
to
be
used,
and
it
will
be
what
will
be
requested
of
the
county.
D
The
types
of
forms
making
it
uniform
the
second
change
this
bill
makes
is
in
regards
to
the
plans
County
Boards
of
Elections
make
for
the
proposed
elections
that
are
upcoming,
and
that
goes
to
the
State
Board
of
Elections
and
Secretary
of
State
prior
to
each
election
season
to
ensure
that
the
pros
that
the
plan
will
be
secured
and
adequate
the
change.
This
change
in
this
bill
simply
added
that
County
Boards
of
Elections,
must
include
how
many
parking
spots
are
available
at
proposed
voting
centers
to
be
part
of
that
application.
D
This
stipulation
regarding
election
day
is
already
in
the
statute,
but
with
in-person
absentee
balloting
voting
now
being
an
option,
it
simply
adds
that
those
days
are
the
same
rules
for
electioneering
at
the
polls.
The
aim
of
this
provision
is
to
ensure
fairness
and
impartiality
in
the
election
process
by
prohibiting
election
officers
from
engaging
in
partisan
activities
while
acting
in
their
official
capacities.
D
D
This
change
is
designed
to
prevent
instances
of
voter
intimidation
on
the
driveways
and
in
the
parking
lots.
Not
all
parking.
Lots
are
owned
by
the
same
entities
that
own
the
buildings
where
the
voting
takes
place
and
this
bill
will
stipulate
that
the
county
Boards
of
Elections
May
designate
parking
areas
that
would
be
free
of
this
electioneering.
D
The
fifth
change
in
the
bill
is
another
area
of
unintended
oversight
from
last
year's
bill.
This
change
would
prevent
any
person
from
electioneering
where
and
while
election
officer
training
is
being
conducted.
This
ensures
that
election
officers
will
receive
unbiased
training
which
does
not
have
outside
political
influences.
D
The
sixth
provision
of
the
bill
is
in
regard
to
eligibility
in
general
elections.
Currently,
a
candidate
who
has
lost
a
primary
election
is
not
eligible
to
be
a
candidate
for
the
same
office
in
the
general
election
of
that
same
year.
This
prevents
losing
candidates
from
running
as
write-in
candidates
later
in
the
process.
D
D
D
Without
this
new
statute
to
prosecute
an
individual
who
attempted
to
vote
knowing
they
had
lost
the
right,
the
ninth
provision
of
the
legislation
is
in
records
is
in
regards
to
approving
the
expenditures,
the
expenses
by
the
Kentucky
registry
of
election
Finance.
It
simply
adds
that
fees
for
legal
services
and
matters
before
the
legislative
ethics
Commission
to
be
valid
campaign,
expenses
assuming
and
only
when
the
final
adjudication
is
in
favor
of
the
candidates.
D
As
we
know,
in
these
divisive
times,
some
of
the
complaints
that
have
and
will
be
filed
are
frivolous
and
filed
for
mere
political
purposes.
This
ninth,
the
ninth
charge,
is
in
regard
to
financial
reports
for
County
political
parties.
Currently,
County
political
parties
must
file
reports.
Semi-Annually
this
bill
would
make
it
where
a
county,
which
does
not
have
more
than
a
hundred
or
ten
thousand
dollars
in
their
account,
would
only
have
to
file
reports
on
an
annual
basis.
D
F
Certainly
so
this
is
yet
another
tool
we
have
to
ensure
that
the
public
feels
that
secure
in
our
election
process.
So
all
we're
doing
here
is
making
sure
that
the
Attorney
General
is
clear
with
the
clerk's
offices
that
will
be
conducting
his
inquiry
as
to
what
is
expected
of
them,
and
then
the
other
part
of
this
is
that
the
clerks
had
requested
that
they
get
the
results
back
so
that
they
can
either
find
places
that
they
may
need
to
address
or
more
likely
and
more
consistently.
F
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
fellow
members,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
with
you
today
and
I
want
to
commend
representative
Decker
and
Roberts
on
their
work
and
Leadership
on
this
bill.
You
know
the
past
two
years
we've
made
a
fairly
extensive
and
sweeping
election
reform
here
in
Kentucky
and
I
think
we're
heading
in
the
right
direction.
This
bill
is
not
as
expansive
as
as
what
we've
seen
in
the
past.
C
It
does
address
some
concerns
and
challenges,
and
some
some
suggestions
that
have
been
brought
up,
I
think
you'll
notice
that
there's
really
nothing
to
build.
That
will
have
a
huge
impact
on
our
County
clerks
or
the
State
Board
of
election,
and
that's
important
that
we
allowed
the
clerks
and
the
State
Board
to
to
implement
these
past
two
years
of
election
reform
that
we've
had
and
essentially
kind
of,
let
them
catch
their
breath
a
little
bit.
C
A
Do
we
have
any
questions
representative,
Moser.
G
D
G
Well,
I
understand,
I,
guess
your
rationale,
but
write-in
candidates
don't
generally
pull
much
weight
or
or
win
elections.
So
I
just
I
see
this
as
taking
away
a
better
choice,
but
yeah
I
don't
really
see
that
it's
a
necessary
part
of
this
and
then
on
the
on
the
felony.
The
D
Felony
on
somebody
who
has
a
felony
in
their
past
I
have
a
question
about.
If
and
sorry
I
didn't
ask
if
I
can
ask
another
question.
Thank
you.
G
If
a
if
an
individual
who
has
a
felony
in
their
past
has
an
expungement
and
restoration
of
voting
rights
through
I,
don't
know
where
we
are
on
the
executive
order.
Did
the
governor
Institute
some
restoration
of
voting
rights?
How
does
this
affect
that.
D
On
your
first
point
and
then
I'll
address
the
second
Point,
there
is
a
the
thought
behind
the
first
and
I
think
I
stated
it,
but
there
is
a
sore
loser
concept
where
you
don't
want
the
person
who
beat
you
to
win
in
the
general
election,
so
she
will
simply
take
away
the
votes
from
that
person
to
ensure
that
you
really
didn't
lose.
Oh
you're,
talking
about
section
four,
the
section
four
I
would
like
to
invite
the
attorney
representatives
from
the
Attorney
General's
office
to
come
up
and
expand
expound
upon
what
you've
asked.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Guys.
Just
identify
yourselves
and
represent
Moser
can
reform
the
question.
If
she
don't
mind.
H
G
Okay,
all
right
I
just
had
a
question
about
if
an
individual
who
has
a
felony
in
their
past
is,
has
their
felony
expunged
and
there's
a
restoration
of
of
voter
rights,
I
I
guess
it
would
nullify
this
section
of
the
bill.
They
would
no
longer
be
charged
with
a
felony,
because
it's
expunged
sure.
H
My
understanding
is
that
the
language
of
the
current
draft
and
the
bill
drafter
rewa,
can
correct
me
if,
if
I'm
wrong,
it
has
a
specific
carve
out,
so
it
will
not
apply
to
those
who
have
received
the
the
kind
of
expungement
that
that
you're
discussing
here,
I
also
think
sort
of
in
a
big
picture
context
right
that,
given
the
Constitutional
Authority
right
in
this
area
of
the
governor's
realm,
I
think
it
would
be
hard
necessarily
to
craft
a
statute
that
could
infringe
on
that,
given
that
the
constitution
specifically
provides
certain
executive
rights
there,
but
nonetheless,
I
think
the
statute
has
has
been
this.
H
G
All
right,
May
I,
just
comment
so
administratively
it
seems
a
little
onerous
to
to
try
to
figure
out
who
I
I
mean
I
I,
guess
when
an
individual
registers
to
vote,
they
are
accepted
if
they
and
I
it's
not
accepted
accepted
from
being
able
to
register
if
they
have
a
felony.
So
is
that
already
administratively
kind
of
taken
care
of,
or
is
this
something
new
that
we're
putting
in
place
so.
H
I
want
to
back
up
a
little
bit
in
this.
This
change
deals
only
with
those
who
have
already
been
registered
to
to
vote
before
they
were
convicted
of
a
felony,
and
so
this
this
doesn't
wouldn't
necessarily
impact
anyone
who's
trying
to
register
to
vote.
So
we're
talking
about
a
class
of
folks
who
were
previously
registered
to
vote
lawfully
registered
to
vote,
may
have
voted
in
the
past
and
then
get
convicted
of
a
felony
they're
advised
that
they
lose
certain
rights,
including
the
right
to
vote,
and
then
they
come
back
and
try
to
vote
anyway.
H
This
would
just
make
that
that
fact
pattern
a
Class,
D
Felony,
which
is
the
same
fact
pattern
if
you
hadn't
been
previously
registered
to
vote
before
you're
convicted
of
of
that
felony
in
terms
of
the
administrative
side,
I'll,
let
my
colleagues
say
a
couple
of
things
to
that
in
the
sense
that
I
think
they're
pretty
well
alerted
right
when
there
are
expungements
or
other
relative
executive
orders
on
file
for
an
individual
when
they're
investigating
this
kind
of
activity.
We
were
talking
about
this
before
so
I'll.
Let
her
detail
that.
I
At
the
Attorney
General's
office
are
special
prosecutions
unit
and
our
Department
of
Criminal
investigations
gets
these
cases
and
first
thing
there's
any
kind
of
fact
scenario
like
this
one.
We
would
look
up
and
see
if
the
person
is
a
convicted
felon.
We
would
also
look
up
and
see
if
the
person
has
had
their
rights
restored.
If
it's
been
expunged
and
if
that's
the
case
on
any
of
those
situations,
that's
it
we
don't
go
further
with
Prosecuting.
We
stop
right
there
and
I
believe
this
bill
also.
Has
that
in
there
as
well.
G
I
Yeah,
so
the
only
we
already
have
a
wrongful
registration
Statute
in
place,
so
that's
already
dealt
with
the
only
thing
that
this
would
affect
is
we
just
had
a
case
last
year
where
the
person
was
a
lawfully
registered
voter.
They
then
were
convicted
of
a
federal
offense.
They
went
to
prison
for
that
offense
after
they
got
out
and
before
getting
their
rights
restored,
they
ended
up
voting
twice
in
two
separate
elections,
so
still
a
convicted
fellow
felon
unlawfully
voting.
No
rights
restored.
There's
no
law
in
place
right
now.
That
would
help.
H
Compare
that
same
that
same
fact
pattern
right
with
someone
who,
if
they
hadn't,
been
registered
to
vote
prior
to
the
federal
felony,
it's
a
Class,
D
Felony,
so
that,
like
that's,
the
only
change
in
the
fact
pattern
is
this
person
happened
to
have
been
registered
to
vote
prior
to
the
felony
offense.
As
a
consequence,
we
have
very
little
if
anything
we
can
charge
them
with.
But
if
that
person
hadn't
been
registered
to
vote
previously
and
the
same
fact,
pattern
occurred.
It's
classy
felony
and
we
think
that's
a
inappropriate
disparity,
inappropriate
disparity
in
the
wall.
Okay,.
G
A
Do
I
hear
motion
on
the
bill
moved
by
representative
Hodgson.
E
A
Second,
by
representative
cook,
any
further
questions.
D
I
want
to
thank
all
the
people
who
are
here
from
our
election
system.
We
have
professionals
here
who
have
dedicated
their
lives
to
ensuring
the
safety
of
our
elections,
the
integrity
and
and
high
voter
turnout.
D
They
help
us
with
every
election
bill
we
offer
and
I
I
think
that
they
make
it
much
better
when
we
communicate
and
and
collaborate
also,
I
want
to
thank
the
the
the
opposite
party
of
mine,
because
elections
should
not
be
political,
and
so
when
we
work
on
these
bills
or
should
not
be
partisan,
I'm,
sorry,
and
when
we
work
on
this
bill,
we
always
try
to
make
them
bipartisan
a
part
non-partisan.
So
I
want
to
thank
all
the
people
who
work
on
bills
with
me
in
the
election
system.
Thank
you.
B
J
D
A
Motion
carries
motion
carries
for
House
Bill.
The
vote
carries
for
House
Bill
302,
as
amended
by
the
house
committee
substitute
and
passes
with
favorable
expression.
Thank
you,
and
now
we
have
a
title
Amendment
on
that
need
a
motion
for
the
title
Amendment.
J
Okay,
I'm
John
Hodgson
representative
36
I've
asked
Trey
Grayson
to
join
me
as
a
former
Secretary
of
State
former
member
of
the
Board
of
Elections
and
is
involved
with
the
clerk's
Association
he's
kind
of
a
Swiss
army
knife
of
election
law
so
asked
him
to
keep
me
straight
on
on
our
history.
In
particular,.
J
J
All
right,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
House,
Bill
230
with
the
committee
sub,
is
a
fairly
simple
Bill.
The
Genesis
of
this
is
the
fact
that,
for
a
number
of
years,
Kentucky
has
had
more
registered
voters
than
living
human
beings
above
age
18..
That's
caused
a
good
deal
with
consternation
among
the
public,
some
confusion,
sometimes
even
in
this
Committee.
In
addition
to
that,
we've
had
a
federal
judge
with
a
consent
decree
regarding
voter
registration
rule
since
about
2019.
That's
added
another
layer
of
of
of
intrigue
to
this
process.
J
The
national
voter
registration
act
provides
a
framework
for
removing
voters
from
the
rolls,
and
sometimes
that
process
takes
years
and
is
very
cumbersome
and
I.
Think
as
we
have
entered
into
an
era
in
our
society,
that
I
would
call
a
trustless
society
with
regards
to
elections.
The
general
public
and
even
members
of
this
committee
have
expressed
interest
and
concern
and
what
is
the
status
of
our
voter
roll
cleanup,
so
this
bill
is
intended
to
provide
transparency
to
the
status
of
that
voter
roll
cleanup.
J
So
the
first
first
feature
would
be
that
Secretary
of
State
and
the
Board
of
Elections
would
be
asked
to
cooperatively
present
to
this
committee
or
the
interim
joint
committee
on
elections,
a
status
report
detailing
all
their
cleanup
activities
in
the
previous
quarter,
every
quarter
through
the
year.
J
So
it's
a
fairly
detailed
list
on
the
the
quantity
and
quality
of
those
cleanup
efforts.
In
addition,
there
would
be
a
report
produced
for
the
first
time
that
would
list
every
address
on
the
Commonwealth
that
has
a
registered
voter
there
and
the
number
of
Voters
that
reside
at
that
address.
No
names,
no
birthdays,
no
identifying
information
of
any
kind.
Just
one
two,
three
Elm
Street
there
are
three
voters
registered
there.
This
report
would
be
made
available
to
everyone
in
the
Commonwealth
in
the
county
of
their
residence.
J
They
could
access
it
at
the
county,
clerk's
office
online
or
anyone
can
access
it
online
and
that
this
gives
voters
the
ability
to
go,
look
up
their
own
address
and
see
if
they
have
extra
people
registered
there
I
found
out.
This
was
my
situation.
I
had
children
that
moved
out
of
state
after
college
and
they
were
still
registered
my
address
for
years,
I
didn't
know
what
to
do.
How
to
clean
that
up.
J
J
They
may
also
look
at
the
vacant
lot
across
the
street
and
find
that
there's
three
people
registered
over
there
and
pose
a
question
so
part
of
the
process
would
be
a
portal
that
would
be
established
by
the
Secretary
of
State
in
the
Board
of
Elections
website
for
people
to
self-report
those
observances
of
discrepancies
or
anomalies.
In
the
voter
record,
let
the
Secretary
of
State's
office
in
the
Board
of
Elections
take
care
of
cleanup
activities
we
might
which
might
involve
postcards
and
other
comparisons.
J
The
again
this
report
would
be
sorted
by
County,
so
every
County
in
the
Commonwealth
would
have
a
copy
of
that
available
at
the
clerk's
office,
either
by
a
terminal
or
the
case
of
very
small
counties.
If
they
don't
have
an
internet
connection,
you
could
print
out
the
report
pretty
short
report,
but
these
are
activities
that
are
already
being
done
by
the
people
that
are
charged
with
doing
that
by
the
law,
the
relationship
between
Secretary
of
State's
office
and
the
Board
of
Elections.
J
It's
not
always
abundantly
clear
to
the
public
and
I
think
this
bill
would
go
a
long
way
to
ensuring
transparency,
letting
voters
participate
in
the
process
of
keeping
their
own
roles
clean
by
watching
their
own
address
and
that
in
their
immediate
area
it
would
help
increase
the
confidence
in
the
public
that
our
voter
rolls
are
being
cleaned
up
and
that
they
are
getting
better
every
quarter
so
glad
to
address
any
questions.
Mr
chairman.
A
Thank
you
and
is:
is
this
been
tried
in
other
states
or
any
anywhere
else
that
you
know.
J
Other
states
have
varying
levels
of
reporting
on
their
election
rules.
There
are
some
states
where
you
can
actually
have
publicly
available
information
on
every
voter
who
is
registered.
We
did
not
want
to
go
that
far
in
this
state.
I
think
people
don't
want
their
personal
information
out
there.
What's
my
name,
what's
my
address?
What's
my
age,
what's
my
party
registration,
but
this
is
nothing
but
the
geographic
reality
that
there's
an
address
here
in
the
Commonwealth
and
there's
a
registered
voter
at
that
location.
K
A
K
Gentry
Smith
Trey
Grayson,
former
Secretary
of
State
Ohio,
for
example,
is
one
of
the
states
that
just
puts
all
the
registered
voters
name
and
address
online.
So
people
can
look
at
that,
and
Michigan
has
a
pretty
detailed
listing
of
all
the
procedures
that
they
do
as
part
of
their
list
maintenance
program.
So
I,
don't
know
that
you
know
every
State's,
slightly
different
and
and
so
I
don't
know
that
anybody
literally
has
this
exact
thing
in
place,
but
I
think
pieces
of
this
are
probably
in
a
lot
of
states.
J
A
Second,
let
me
ask,
since
we
have
the
what
is
it
the
Swiss
army
knife
of.
A
Overall,
do
you
think,
there's
secretary
Grayson?
Do
you
think
that
we're
getting
I
know
there
was
a
dip
there
for
a
while,
but
his
confidence
growing
back
in
our
elections.
K
I
I
think
there
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
in
Kentucky
in
the
election
space
as
well
as
nationally
I,
think
election
officials
we've
been
doing
a
better
job
of
engaging
with
the
public,
engaging
with
legislators,
helping
to
clarify
some
of
the
procedures
and
rules
that
are
out
there.
I
also
think
that
many
of
the
investigations
that
have
gone
on
have
revealed
that
our
system
is
pretty
good.
K
No
systems
perfect,
but
I
think
we're
trying
I
appreciate
that
what
you
and
your
colleagues
have
done
to
bring
in
clerks
in
the
State,
Board
and
Secretary
of
State
two-year
meetings
to
help
answer
your
questions,
because
you
get
asked
a
lot
of
questions
and
this
stuff's
confusing.
You
know
you
all
have
to
be
experts
on
everything
and
particularly
because
you
run
you're,
probably
viewed
as
more
of
an
expert
on
Election,
Administration
and
so
being
able
to
for
us
to
be
able
to
help.
K
All
of
you
understand
the
interplay
of
federal
law
and
state
law
and
state
custom
is
hard,
and-
and
so
you
know
the
more
opportunities
we
have
during
the
interim
to
come
in
and
educate.
You
and
your
other
colleagues.
We're
happy
to
do
that
so,
but
there's
a
lot
more
to
be
done.
I
think
the
representatives
right
and
some
of
these,
like
this
law,
this
bill,
the
bill
we
just
heard
and
some
stuff
that
we
want
to
work
on
in
the
interim
can
continue
to
increase
that
that
confidence.
K
You
know
one
of
the
challenges
is
whenever
somebody
loses
an
election
that
supporters
of
those
candidates
or
that
party
always
have
lower
confidence
numbers
in
the
outcome.
Just
because
they're
they're
person
lost
and
and
you've
seen
that
over
the
years,
and
so
it's
incumbent
upon
all
of
us
to
make
sure
that
there
is
that
trust.
You
might
not
like
the
outcome,
but
you
trust
the
out
currency.
A
Great
yeah,
you
know
for
a
free,
Society
self-governed,
the
elections
is
the
heartbeat.
You
know
if
it's
not
a
free
and
fair
election,
because
we
got
problems
and
I
really
like
representative
Hodgson,
how
the
spirit
of
this
bill
is
to
bring
the
the
clerks
and
the
Secretary
of
State's
office
and
the
State
Board
of
Elections
together,
it's
very
important
that
they
all
work
really
close
together
for
a
common,
good
and
and
I
think
they're
doing
that
and
I
think
this.
A
This
bill
helps
move
that
along
do
I,
so
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion.
Yeah.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
secretary
call
the
room.
J
A
You
we
are
adjourned
yep,
you
know,
I
bought
you
one
yeah
for
the
Marines.
You
never
wear
it,
though.