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From YouTube: Senate Standing Committee on Agriculture (3-14-23)
Description
Intro: 00:00
Roll Call: 03:09
HB 76 and Discussion: 03:51
HB 167 and Discussion: 05:28
HB 4 and Discussion: 20:50
SR 153: 45:30
SR 154: 48:11
Adjourn: 48:30
A
We
have
a
big
4-H
group
here.
If
y'all
will
kind
of
come
up,
so
everybody
can
see
you
don't
be
shy.
Y'all
don't
have
to
stay
in
the
back,
so
I'm
going
to
butcher
Maggie
I'm,
going
to
butcher
your
name
so
Matt
Maggie
blazina
got
it
right.
Look
at
that
I'm
off
to
a
good
roll
today,
she's
a
president
and
she's
from
the
best
Senate
District
in
Kentucky,
the
first
Senate
District
out
of
Crittenden
County
Lucas
Arnold
from
Hopkins
County
Lucas.
What
are
you
okay?
A
A
Are
you
you're
the
secretary?
That's
only
one
left
right.
Aren't
you
proud
of
me
I
still
remember
all
this
stuff,
it's
been
a
while
and
then
Kirsten
Foy,
okay,
great
thank
you
and
Chris
you're
here
with
us
somewhere
I
think
so
welcome,
appreciate,
y'all,
having
appreciate
it
appreciate,
y'all,
being
here,
pull
you
up
a
chair
and
we'll
get
started
here
in
a
little
bit.
A
I've
got
a
couple
more
in
the
crowd,
Ben
and
JC
Rudy,
or
my
boys
up
here.
Parents,
and
then
they
brought
the
Mother-in-law
Judy.
Who
is
one
of
my
dearest
friends
from
way
longer
than
I
would
like
to
either?
One
of
us
would
like
to
think
about
so
we
appreciate
y'all
being
here
today
and
just
so.
The
crowd
knows
at
any
point.
If
I
mess
up,
Judy
will
jump
up
and
point
this
out,
because
she
likes
that
better
than
pretty
much
anything
else
that
she
can
imagine
in
life.
A
C
D
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
committee.
This
is
House
Bill
76.
Over
the
last
six
years
we
have
done
a
series
of
resolutions
honoring
various
agricultural
days,
a
national
agriculture
month
National
soybean
month,
National
Beef
Month
National
Dairy
month,
National,
poultry
month,
National,
Park
months,
FFA,
National
FFA
week
and
National
4-H
week,
and
so
this
bill
basically
just
takes
all
those
resolutions
puts
them
in
statute
and
I
know
this
AG
staff
around.
D
A
A
A
A
E
Right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I
want
to
talk
about
the
process
a
little
bit.
We
first
filed
this
bill
last
year
for
informational
purposes,
only
just
to
start
the
conversation,
because
we
knew
this
was
going
to
be
quite
a
heavy
lift
with
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
players.
A
lot
of
stakeholders
involved,
not
just
veterinarians,
but
you've
got
the
large
animal
community.
You've
got
the
small
animal
community
and
we
want
to
try
to
address
everyone's
concerns.
E
So
we
filed
the
bill
for
informational
purposes
only
that
a
series
of
stakeholder
meetings
across
the
Commonwealth,
how
many
Michelle
15
at
least
yes
at
least
15
stakeholder
meetings
across
the
Commonwealth.
We
actually
had
a
survey
that
was
put
out
by
the
kvma
to
all
there
and
went
and
come
through
all
their
results
and
and
made
adjustments,
and
this
bill
was
a
living
document
continually
continually
seeking
to
improve
it.
It
culminated
up
here
in
the
annex.
E
E
Then
we've
met
with
Senator
Webb,
we've
talked
to
Cattlemens
and
can
continue
to
make
continue
to
make
changes
to
it
and
you
know
not
get
to
100
I
think,
that's
fair
to
say,
senator
Webb
and
we've
we've
gone
a
long
way
trying
to
make
this
bill
suitable
for
everyone
and
I'm
going
to
let
Michelle
Shane
who's
done
a
phenomenal
job.
Writing
this
bill
talk
about
the
details.
Thank.
G
You
representative
cook,
so
I
briefly
wanted
to
address
the
changes
that
were
included
in
the
sub.
They
were
tweaks
to
accommodate
requests
from
Senator,
Webb
and
Cattlemen's,
adjusting
the
definition
of
the
practice
of
veterinary
medicine
to
exclude
farriers
and
others,
assessing
the
soundness
and
fitness
of
an
animal,
adjusting
the
definition
of
the
practice
of
Veterinary
technology
to
ensure
it
was
understood,
it's
a
profession
and
not
a
group
of
Technologies
to
exempt
work
on
one's
own
animals
that
that
would
extend
to
the
owner's
agent
and
then
an
owner,
May,
perform
euthanasia
of
livestock.
G
Also
that
animal
euthanasia
Specialists
can
accept
compensation
from
their
employer,
of
course,
but
not
from
the
public
in
their
work.
We've
also
added
alter
definitions
related
to
the
Allied
animal
health
professionals,
excluding
equine
dentists
from
this
group,
but
clarifying
that
the
animal
chiropractors
and
what
that
means
in
a
definition
overall.
What's
in
the
bill,
though,
this
is
a
substantial
Bill
and
one
of
the
most
important
aspects
of
it
is
our
Telehealth
framework
and
vcpr
requirements.
This
is
essential
because
Telehealth
is
not
a
replacement
for
veterinary
services.
It's
a
supportive
mechanism.
G
In-Person
examinations
are
critical
because
without
those
in-person
exams,
there's
an
increased
likelihood
for
misdiagnosis,
ineffective,
ineffective
treatment
and
unintended
adverse
effects,
including
incorrect
prescribing
of
medications.
This
puts
more
pressure
on
veterinarians,
who
are
already
feeling
the
shortage,
an
ability
to
provide
services
to
their
clientele.
Failure
to
pass
this
bill
will
open
Kentucky
to
unrestricted
prescribing,
which
is
a
very
dangerous
place
to
be.
G
It
will
also
reduce
our
ability,
failure
to
pass
to
promptly
identify
and
properly
diagnose
and
quickly,
contain
High
consequence
diseases,
something
very
important
in
agriculture,
the
food
safety
and
our
economic
ability
to
trade.
Our
food
also
Federal
Law
requires
this
in
many
instances
and
in-person
requirements.
So
this
framework
is
built
into
this
bill
and
supported
by
the
veterinary
Community,
we're
also
looking
to
add
Veterinary
facility
registrations
to
help
us
get
a
holistic
handle
on
what
services
are
offered
where
in
Kentucky
and
to
help
us
address
the
shortage
issues
by
informing
the
legislature.
E
Is
all
no?
It's
been
the
veterinarian
act,
they
try
to
practice
act.
They
tried
to
pull
this
open
shovel
different
times
and
there's
been
minor
changes,
but
this
is
the
first
major
change
in
over
30
years
of
the
Veterinarian
Practice
Act.
So
there
is
understandably
a
lot
of
ketchup
going
on
here
with
this
bill.
B
E
Got
to
thank
Deborah
Hamilton
back
is
behind
me.
She's
done
wonders
working
on
the
kvma
side.
I
think
my
favorite
part
of
the
entire
bill
is
a
scholarship
part
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
want
to
touch
on
that
a
little
bit
more.
We
all
know
about
the
vet
shortages
throughout
Kentucky.
Please
do
the
registration
is
obviously
with
the
we're
trying
to
identify
where
these,
where
these
drought
areas
are
where
we
are
missing
these
large
animal
veterinarians
and
I.
H
Yeah
I
think,
as
representative
cook
said,
you
know
we
all
realize,
there's
a
stories
of
veterinarians.
You
know
extreme
shortage
in
rural
Kentucky,
but
even
the
small
animal
practitioners
and
the
e-cline
practitioners
are
are
having
problems
now
of
getting
a
full
Workforce.
So
we
feel
that
this
scholarship
program
could
help
maybe
alleviate
the
problem.
I'm
sure
we'll
probably
be
looking
at.
You
know
the
food
animal
rural
area
sector
first,
because
that's
the
most
extreme
shortage
at
this
point
in
time.
A
Yeah
I'd
like
to
thank
all
you
for
all
of
you.
I
know
you
put
any
yeoman's
effort
on
this
and
I
really
appreciate,
while
that
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
directly
with
taking
care
of
animals
in
the
present
moment.
The
effort
to
put
in
some
data
collection
on
that
we've
got
a
real
issue
in
in
large
parts
of
our
state,
especially
in
the
large
animal
context,
and
we
all
know
we've
got
to
do
something,
but
but
you're
you're
firing
in
the
dark.
A
If
you,
if
you
don't
know
what
you're
dealing
with
and
being
able
to
drill
down
into
some
of
this
data,
while
it
really
excites
nerds
like
me,
it
does,
it
does
have
some
some
benefits
too.
So
we
can
take,
hopefully
a
more
targeted
approach
to
as
we
work
through
some
possible
solutions
to
close
the
gap
on
our
Veterinary
insurance,
and
especially
our
in
our
large
animal
field
and
I.
A
I
know
that
all
of
you
have
much
more
to
do
with
your
lives
and
practices
than
sit
and
go
through
all
this.
But
but
I
can
speak
for
everyone
that
we
really
do
appreciate.
All
of
your
hard
work
and
time
spent
also
I
know
in
that
Dave,
Maples
and
Nikki
are
here
with
Cattlemen's
Association.
They
they
had
worked
with
y'all
on
this
and
I
think
that
they're
good
with
everything
I
gave
them
the
chance
to
to
speak
but
Dave
deferred.
Here.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
or
anything?
I
Yeah
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
explain
myself
a
little
bit
but
I
appreciate
all
the
work.
That's
been
done
in
this
I
appreciate
the
communication.
I
appreciate
Dr
Park
who's
actually
saved
one
of
my
horses
in
the
past,
but
I'm
not
only
a
Stockman
I'm,
an
attorney,
so
it's
a
blessing
and
a
curse,
and
when
I
look
at
this
bill,
I
know
a
lot
of
it
had
National
model
language
anytime.
I
So
those
are
my
concerns
and
anytime
I
get
an
animal
bill.
I
will
look
at
it
in
that
light
and
I'd
just
appreciate
and
tell
Dr
Smith
I
appreciate
him
too,
because,
but
that
that
was
my
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
this
I
appreciate
the
changes
that
were
made
Telehealth
is
necessary.
We
want
ideas
to
incent
veterinarians.
I
I
I
still
may
have
a
question
about
confidentiality
carry
forward,
but
you
know
we'll
we'll
work
on
that
and
and
we'll
see
how
this
unauthorized
practice
Provisions
are
implemented
and
I
think
you'll
be
prudent
in
in
doing
that
and
the
pursuit
of
that
and
as
to
equal,
the
equine
Dennis,
which
I
know
a
few
and
I.
Don't
you
know
the
I
think
there
is
a
way
and
I
think
the
sponsor
and
I've
talked
about
this
to
to
accommodate
them
and
Elevate
them
in
their
profession.
I
If
you
will,
because
they
have
several
hours
of
school
and
not
minimizing
the
practice
for
especially
rural
horse
Health
in
practice
of
folks
that
have
done
it
for
thousands
of
years
and
try
to
elevate
the
dentist
to
where
they
need
to
be,
but
not
preclude
someone
else
from
taking
care
of
animals
in
in
another
setting.
So
those
have
been
my
concerns.
Most
of
those
concerns
have
been
addressed.
I
appreciate
working
with
you,
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
again
and
and
it's
the
truth.
I
E
Into
the
web,
and
just
one
comment:
if
I
could
on
the
Allied
Health
professional,
she
was
actually
a
large
list
of
those
and
I
think
one
thing
we
want
to
do
is
we
took
equine
dentist
out
of
this.
One
thing
I
plan
on
doing
is
during
the
interim,
is
actually
hosting
a
meeting,
bring
some
of
the
Allied
Health
Professionals
in
there
and
let's
look
at
and
take
a
hard
look
at
what
needs
to
come
under
the
umbrella.
So
that's
one
of
the
many
follow-ups
that
I'm
sure
will
occur
with
this
bill.
A.
A
A
Another
thing
there
are
a
lot
of
young
people
out
in
the
audience,
love
having
y'all
here
for
people
for
those
of
you
that
want
to
stay
in
in
rural
Kentucky,
but
maybe
aren't
set
up
to
farm
or
don't
want
to
everything
in
life,
breaks
down
to
supply
and
demand,
and
this
is
a
good.
This
is
a
good
life.
It's
a
good
way
to
make
a
living.
It's
a
good
way
to
contribute
back
to
your
community,
so
bone
up
on
that
science,
as
you
go
through
school,
so
you'll
need
it.
A
J
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I,
want
to
take
a
brief
moment,
cast
a
yes
vote
and
applaud
you
as
chairman
for
working
with
the
sponsor
the
sponsor.
Thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
matter
over
a
long
period
of
time
and
thanks
for
engaging
all
the
stakeholders.
The
way
you
do
this
is
the
way
legislation
is
supposed
to
be
done.
It's
not
easy,
but
it's
important.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership,
Mr
chairman.
Thank
you
for
rolling
up
your
sleeves
and
working
as
well.
A
Welcome
leader
Thayer
just
in
time,
so
steel
post
is
unanimously
and
I
would
like
to
keep
this
off
of
consent
and
talk
about
it
a
little
bit
because
I
think
our
veterinarian
issue
is
important
enough.
We
might
want
to
talk
about
it
on
the
floor.
A
little
bit
so
appreciate
everyone's
hard
work
and
effort
on
that
and
I
look
forward
to
to
going
through
this,
and
maybe
coming
back
and
look
at
a
few
things
in
there
in
on
the
that
representative
cook
had
talked
about.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
All.
A
K
A
Wilson
I
believe
you
were
out
too.
Would
you
like
to
register
a
vote?
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I
was
in
another
committee
and
I'd
like
to
register
and
I
vote.
I
appreciate
you
I
know
everybody's
hustling.
Today,
moving
back
and
forth
between
committees
appreciate
your
time
and
coming
here,
representative
branscome
employers.
Yours
please
proceed
Josh.
A
Before
we
before
we
proceed,
there's
a
committee
sub
on
this
too.
Let's
go
ahead
and
get
that
out.
There's
been
a
motion
by
Senator
Thayer
second,
by
Senator
Webb.
All
in
favor
of
adopting
the
committee
said
please
seeking
five
by
saying:
aye
all
opposed
committee
serve
is
adopted.
Representative
bransco,
please
proceed.
L
All
right,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee
before
you
today
is
House
Bill
4,
which
is
a
landowner
protection
bill
that
passed
the
house
99-0
supported
by
Kentucky
Farm,
Bureau,
Kentucky,
League
of
cities,
Keiko
Kentucky,
county
judges,
Executives
Association
and
the
magistrates
and
Commissioners
Association.
L
This
ensures
that
the
cost
for
the
decommissioning
and
the
removal
of
the
equipment
which
could
be
like
I,
said
20
or
30
years
down.
The
road
does
not
fall
in
the
back
of
our
Farmers,
our
landowners
and
our
fellow
kentuckians.
We
we
have
to
be
proactive
and
I
say
this.
Every
time
I
I
talk
about
this
bill.
L
A
Yeah,
first
of
all,
representative
branscom.
Thank
you.
I
know.
You've
wrestled
this
barrier
to
the
ground
for
two
years
now
and
there's
been
a
lot
to
it
and
a
lot
of
people
involved.
We
appreciate
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done
on
that
we
looked
at
this
a
little
bit
and
kind
of
worked
through
some
small
changes
to
kind
of
get
another
set
of
eyes
on
it.
A
So
we
went
in
and
cleared
that
up
a
little
bit
to
establish
that,
while
local
Primacy
through
Section
6
attack
is
preserved
everywhere,
it
was
intended
to
be
preserved
that
it
didn't
get
in
the
way
of
everything
else
that
was
set
in
place.
In
section
five
of
this
act
to
to
allow
the
secretary
to
review
decommissioning
plans
and
and
the
bonds
that
go
with
them.
A
And
then
we
made
a
couple
of
more
little
changes
to
just
kind
of
try
to
clarify
the
the
landowner
rights
with
the
decommissioning
with
the
removal
and
is
often
the
process.
I
will
take
100
responsibility
for
this
in
section
to
in
two
I
believe
we
made
some
changes
in
the
statute
and
had
an
unattended
consequence.
A
There
was
a
negotiated
part
of
this
I
understand
in
the
interim
to
where
the
the
companies
would
only
take
things
down
to
three
feet
below
surface
and
there's
some
question
that
the
language
that
we
put
in
there
to
try
to
make
it
clear
actually
made
it
made
it
more
confusing
so
I'm,
working
with
with
Bill
writing
now
to
go
back
and
do
a
floor
amendment
to
clean
that
little
piece
up,
but
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
move
it.
So
there's
a
little
language
change
there
and
in
six
we
gotta
change.
A
One
word
that
we
meant
to
say
one
thing
and
we
sent
another
that
really
doesn't
really
doesn't
have
any
real
impact
on
it.
It's
just
a
drafting
era
that
I
probably
wouldn't
even
go
and
look
at
in
a
floor
Amendment,
but
we're
going
to
do
it
on
this.
So
we'll
go!
Do
it
on
that,
but
that
was
the
basis
of
the
things
that
that
we
did.
There
were
a
couple
other
little
tweaks
we
made
in
the
committee
said,
but
those
were
the
the
relevant
things.
L
L
Instead
of
going
off
the
board
before
construction,
we
thought
it
was
important
that,
while
these
facilities
are
being
built
that
you
have
that
local
presence
there,
the
bill
allows
local
local
planning
zone
to
have
privacy
over
the
decommissioning
requirements
and
the
bonds
establishes
a
detailed
decommissioning
plan
and
bond
requirements
to
be
included
with
each
landowner's
lease
agreement
and
the
bond
shall
not
lapse
and
establishes
that
the
bond
amount
is
updated.
A
minimum
of
every
five
years
by
an
independent,
licensed
engineer
upon
the
transfer
of
ownership.
L
Some
of
the
new
Provisions
that
are
different
from
last
year's
build.
The
bond
is
to
be
provided
by
surety
that
show
at
all
times
maintain
at
least
an
excellent
rating
as
measured
by
am
best
rating
agency.
The
energy
and
environment
cabinet
shall
have
oversight
over
construct
after
construction
is
complete
and
the
generation
begins
to
ensure
compliance
with
Bond
review
use.
The
decommissioning
and
the
monitoring
a
restrictive
fund
was
created
so
that
the
facility
owner
pays
into
the
fund
to
offset
any
cost
for
eec
oversight.
L
This
keeps
our
taxpayers
from
having
to
pay
for
that
and,
finally,
there's
a
penalty
provision
in
case
of
any
violations
that
was
added
to
the
bill
as
well.
Mr
chairman
I
think
this
is
a
good
start
establishing
what
are
the
minimum
statutory
requirements
for?
What's
going
to
be
in
a
lot
of
cases,
a
20
to
30
year
process,
like
I,
said
it's
a
good
start
and
I
appreciate
the
committee's
consideration.
A
Just
a
couple
more
little
comments
on
that
something
you
said,
I
think
is
really
key.
This
is
a
start
because
this
industry
is
just
now
developing
we're
going
to
see.
We've
already
seen
a
lot
of
changes.
The
the
March
toward
grid
parity
that
we've
seen
in
the
Solar
industry
in
the
last
10
or
15
years
has
been
amazing.
With
with
the
the
rapid
changes
in
the
technology,
it's
used,
that's
probably
not
going
to
stop.
A
This
will
be
an
evolutionary
process,
there'll
be
things
that
we
have
to
go
back
and
change,
and
I
I
appreciate
the
all
the
effort
that
you
put
in
to
allow
this
to
kind
of
be
a
living
breathing
document.
As
far
as
the
review
of
the
decommissioning
and
bond
goes
because
things
are
going
to
change
as
we
go,
we
don't
know
what
they
will.
If
we
did
we'd
make
a
lot
of
money
off
this,
but
but
we
don't
we
don't.
Nobody
knows
what
the
future
will
hold.
A
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
just
about
local
control
and
some
of
these
questions.
There
might
be
other
speakers
that
could
answer
as
well.
My
first
question
is
and
Mr
chair,
assuming
that
you
will
allow
me
two
questions.
Thank
you.
My
first
question
is
around
the
protections
that
might
be
in
place
in
local
ordinance.
That
might
be
more
protective
of
landowners.
Let's
say
that
there
are
some
local
ordinances
that
provide
more
protections
than
this
bill
has.
L
Thank
you,
Senator.
We
in
I
believe
that
is
section
two.
We
give
the
the
locals
the
control
over
that
to,
as
as
their
the
process
to
start
is
beginning
the
locals.
Have
that
they
can
they
can
they
have
the
authority
over
the
decommissioning.
They
already
have
have
it
over
the
setbacks.
So
we
give
that
local
control
to
to
the
to
them.
For
that.
A
Thank
you
and
I
have,
but
before
you
before,
you
go
on,
I
want
to
add
something
to
that
the.
What
is
the
the
representative
Brands
can
reference
there
is
that
the
local
or
the
local,
Planning
and
Zoning,
if
it
affects
anything
with
solar,
that
that
has
to
be
what
the
siding
board
reviews
in
a
in
the
approval
process
of
it.
So
the
locals
have
Primacy
in
that
issue
and
anything
else
that
addresses
section
two
that
representative
Brands
come
in
specifically
I
believe
subsection.
Three.
A
It
is
there's
also
a
catch-all
in
section
six,
where
we
give
Primacy
to
to
section
700
and
to
sections
two
three
and
four,
this
act,
which
is
where
all
this
is
contained.
So
it's
kind
of
directly,
it's
directly
impacted
to
preserve
local
contributions
and
control,
and
then
there's
kind
of
a
catch-all
in
section
six
that
anything
that
we
missed
or
there's
a
question
about:
reaffirms
the
the
local
input
on
the
application
and
permitting
side
of
things.
A
M
K
M
Done
a
lot
of
work
with
the
chairman
and
I
appreciate
how
hard
you
all
have
worked
on
this
issue
so
just
to
follow
up
the
chairman
used
the
example
of
construction
permits
and
just
to
make
sure
I
understand.
Let's
say
a
company
had
a
construction
permit
from
the
siding
board.
Maybe
they
were
already
operational
if
local
government
adopted
an
ordinance
that
conflicted
with
that
permit,
would
this
bill
require
them
to
make
changes?
L
The
local
board
has
remember,
you've
got
two
you've
got
two
local
people
on
the
siding
board.
You
have
a
local
judge
or
whoever's
in
charge
of
that
means
or
the
municipality.
So
there's
that
local
input
on
the
very
beginning
as
the
siding
board
process
is
taking
effect.
So
there's
local
involvement
all
through
all
throughout
and
the
locals
have
the
opportunity
to
to
comment
on
what
they
want.
The
decommissioning
requirements
to
be
a
statute
already
allows
them
to
have
the
setback
requirements,
so
they
would
need
to.
They
would
need
to
comment
on
that.
B
Thank
you,
chairman,
I,
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
work
you've
done
on
this.
This
is
a
this
is
a
very
important
bill
and
for
years,
I've
had
I've
been
dealing
with
this
with
solar
and
other
other
people
coming
to
try
to
lease
some
of
my
property
and
I've
never
signed
a
contract
yet
because
it's
very
very
complicated,
so
people
that
don't
have
the
the
advantage
of
having
that
attorney
or
some
of
that
nature
are
going
to
need
these
protections.
B
I
do
have
one
question
and
it's
a
regarding
the
term
Merchant
Electric
generating
there's
a
relatively
new
process
or
a
type
of
energy.
That's
that's!
That's
kind
of
making
its
way
into
Kentucky
that
that
I've
been
approached
about
recently
and
it
it
has
to
do
with
battery
storage
facilities
where
they
take
power
off
the
grid,
and
they
put
it
back
on
when
it's
needed.
C
L
B
Of
our
yeah
I
would
just
say
this
becomes
part
of
our
life
if
it's
not
we'll
probably
have
to
add
those
because
they're
massive
they're
in
their
large
batteries
and
at
some
point
in
the
future,
those
batteries
are
going
to
need
some
attention.
So
if
it's
that's
not
if
I
I
think
you
might
be
able
to
make
the
argument
that
they're
generating,
because
if
they
take
it
in
and
then
they
generate
it
back
out
but
I
hope
so.
A
F
This
has
been
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chairman
Kyle
Kelly,
with
Kentucky
Farm
Bureau.
This
has,
over
the
last
two
years
been
discussed
many
times
just
appreciate
your
leadership
on
it,
representative
branscome.
It's
become
a
priority
for
our
members,
all
across
the
Commonwealth,
and
we
believe
this
is
certainly
a
step
in
the
right
direction
on
putting
statutory
protections
on
the
landowners.
So
thank
you
for
your
work
on
it.
Chairman
thank.
A
N
Remembers
of
the
committee
Tom
Fitzgerald
I
am
now
a
short-termer
I
I
am
the
of
council
for
the
Kentucky
Resources,
Council
and
heading
out
the
door
I
appreciate
this
opportunity.
My
comments
today
are
not
directed
towards
the
sponsor
nor
towards
his
intent,
but
they
are
addressed
to
this
bill
and
Mr
chairman,
while
I
appreciate
very
much
your
efforts
to
try
to
fix
some
of
the
problems
with
the
bill.
N
The
key
problem
with
the
bill
remains
that
the
developer,
whoever
the
developer
later
sells
the
project
to
and
not
the
landowner
who
leases
the
land,
largely
controls
under
this
bill.
What
gets
left
behind
when
these
solar
arrays
have
ceased
to
have
any
value
the
house
bill
weakened
the
current
siding
board
process
that
imposed
in
at
least
18,
citing
board
orders
a
requirement
that
everything,
above
and
below
ground
be
removed
unless
the
landowner
asks.
Otherwise,
the
language
in
the
committee
sub
tries
to
fix
that
problem,
but
it
doesn't.
Unfortunately,
the
fix
is
simple.
N
Everything
goes
unless
the
landowner
asks.
Otherwise
that
should
be
the
rule.
That
is
not
the
rule
in
this
bill.
The
other
troubling
Provisions
in
the
original
bill
that
are
not
changed
by
the
sub
are
the
removal
of
the
current
requirement
that,
when
you
change
rights
and
responsibilities
after
this
facility
is
up
and
running
that
you
get
approval.
So
we
know
that
the
person
you're
selling
it
to
has
the
wherewithal
and
the
ability
and
the
track
record
to
properly
operate
the
facility
that's
gone
under
this
bill.
N
This
bill
declares
void,
Provisions
under
a
number
I
think
about
a
dozen
board
orders
that
in
fact
did
have
County
Representatives.
That
said,
if
you
change
ownership
or
control
of
the
LLCs
in
the
future,
you
should
get
board
approval,
there's
actually
a
pending
case
where
one
of
the
companies
doesn't
like
that
provision.
N
This
would
void
that
order
and
resolve
that
case
for
the
developer
and
would
avoid
about
12
other
orders
that
the
counties
did
participate
in
it
places
the
decision
making
on
the
bond
amount
in
the
hands
of
a
third
party
who
is
not
a
governmental
Authority
and
who
is
not
accountable
for
the
decision
that
they
make.
It
confounds
the
already
clear
language
that
we
wrote
20
years
ago
and
I
had
the
privilege
of
being
part
of
the
initial
drafting
of
this
20
years
ago.
N
When
it
wasn't
solar
facilities,
it
was
Enron
and
the
rest
of
them
that
were
trying
to
come
to
Kentucky.
Some
of
you
will
remember
that
the
already
clear
language
that
preserved
local
Authority,
specifically
home
rule,
is
narrowed
by
this
bill,
not
preserved
and
finally,
counties
and
cities
that
relied
on
the
siding
board
to
protect
the
landowners
they're
going
to
have
to
affirmatively
change
ordinances
in
order
to
try
to
restore
protections
that
this
bill
takes
away.
N
The
aggressive
efforts
by
developers
to
weaken
the
rules
that
are
in
place
has
changed
my
perspective.
Frankly,
this
bill
is
not
needed
to
protect
landowners.
It's
not
needed
to
empower
local
communities,
it
does
nothing
but
weaken
what
is
already
in
place
and
what
is
being
required
hasn't
stopped
developers
from
coming
to
Kentucky.
There
are
about
20
approved
orders
for
construction
of
these
facilities.
N
My
personal
recommendation
going
forward
to
landowners
who
formerly
could
trust
that
the
siding
board,
even
in
the
absence
of
local
ordinances,
have
the
power
to
require
these
LLCs
to
post
a
full
and
adequate
bond
to
remove
all
their
junk
and
to
assure
that
the
projects
only
got
sold
to
people
who
had
the
wherewithal
to
manage
them
properly.
My
recommendation
will
be
this
to
landowners,
a
lesson
until
there
is
a
new
ordinance,
locally
adopted
or
revised
that
restores
what
this
bill
takes
away
just
say.
N
No
thanks,
chair
Hal
members
of
the
committee
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
I
have
grappled
with
this.
I've
lost
a
lot
of
sleep
over
it,
because
I
am
very
troubled
that
this
bill
is
not
a
step
forward.
This
bill
is
a
step
backwards
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
to
get
as
far
down
in
the
weeds
as
anybody
wants
to
and
Mr
chairman.
If,
if
it
we
do
have
a
country
theme
for
my
testimony,
if
you
want
to
know
what
it
is,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
guess
it
earlier.
A
A
A
A
M
I'm
gonna
cast
a
pass
vote
for
now
again.
I
appreciate
the
intent
behind
the
bill
and
providing
protections
for
Rural
landowners.
I
am
troubled
by
some
of
the
issues
raised
by
Mr
Fitzgerald
and
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
fact
providing
those
protections
to
rural
landowners.
It's
my
understanding.
M
J
Chairman
I'd
like
to
briefly
explain
my
vote,
appreciate
proud
to
cast
an
eye
vote,
appreciate
the
work
of
everyone
engaged
in
this
conversation
very
much
so
I
think
that
the
charge
and-
and
the
reminder
I'm
going
to
make
to
my
colleagues
is
once
this
goes
in
statute.
There
will
be
changes
over
the
course
of
time
in
the
absence
of
anything
being
written
in
legislation
right
now.
It
is
the
Wild
Wild
West.
J
C
I
Going
to
vote
I
Mr
chairman
today,
but
I
do
share
some
of
the
concerns.
I've
been
involved
in
citing
issues
for
a
number
of
years
as
well.
Remember
the
ones
referenced
and
I
think
citing
is
very
important
and
I
would
be
inclined
to
agree
with
my
colleague
at
the
bar
and
tell
people
not
to
do
this.
If
you
own
Farmland
I,
think
we've
got
to
make
an
effort
to
protect
and
preserve
our
farmland
and
and
until
we
get
it
right.
I
think
we're
risking
that
thank.
O
O
So
I
was
pretty
eager
to
see
our
Fiscal
Court,
take
things
carefully
and
and
make
sure
that
they
proceeded
with
the
right
amount
of
caution
and,
in
fact,
enacted
their
own
ordinance.
I
want
to
make
sure
counties
can
do
that,
and
particularly
because
the
decommissioning
requirements
that
are
in
this
bill,
one
of
the
things
that
that
particular
company
didn't
do
was
explain.
They
did
certainly
didn't
volunteer,
putting
any
decommissioning
requirements
on
them
now,
once
the
Fiscal
Court
and
some
of
US
citizens
that
were
going
to
be
impacted
about
it
started
talking
about
it.
O
O
That
we'll
continue
to
revisit
this
over
time
and
as
the
the
market
builds
itself
out,
but
in
the
meantime,
I
want
to
make
sure
counties
and
the
people
and
the
landowners
have
some
protection
and
they're
able
to
influence
the
policy
at
the
local
level
like
they
want
to
to
govern
the
property
rights
and
to
make
sure
to
protect
the
property
rights
of
all
those
involved.
Because
at
some
point
what
you
can
do
with
your
property
can
in
fact
influence
the
value
of
mine
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
my
rights
are
protected.
A
A
We
have
two
resolutions
up
Senate
resolution
153
and
154
they're
sponsored
by
Senator
Adam.
She
has
held
up
in
committee,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
Senate
resolution.
153
myself,
it's
these
are
two
appointments.
The
first
is
appointing
John
Cox
to
the
state
fair
board.
If
there's
anyone
has
any
discussion
on
this,
we
can
otherwise
do
I.
Have
a
motion
on
the
resolution
assumed
the
needs
made
a
motion,
Senator
Thayer.
K
A
A
K
You
Mr
chairman
just
for
members
information.
What
we're
doing
with
resolutions
on
confirmations
of
gubernatorial
appointments
is
we're
putting
them
on
a
separate
consent
calendar
and
it
will
not
be
considered
until
the
last
two
days
of
the
legislative
session.
That
way.
If
there
are
any
problems
with
any
of
them,
we
can
take
the
subsequent
action.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
do
move
that
Senate
resolution
153
be
placed
on
consent.
There's
been
a.
A
Motion
for
casinos
or
a
second,
it
was
taken
by
Senator
Boswell,
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
all
opposed,
no,
that
will
be
put
on
the
separate
consent.
Thank
you,
leader.
Thayer.
Next
up,
we
have
Senate
resolution
154
to
confirm
the
appointment
of
hands
poppy
to
the
Kentucky
state,
fair
board.
If
there's
any
questions
about
this,
we
can
address
it.
Otherwise
do
I
have
a
motion
on
the
resolution
motion
by
by
Senator
Armstrong
second,
by
by
leader
Thayer,
with
without
any
discussion,
Madam
Secretary,
please
call
the
roll.