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A
And
present
as
well,
I
have
some
items
on
the
agenda
before
we
get
going
and
just
want
to
make
a
few
comments
got
some
sad
news.
I
know
members
received
it
that
one
of
our
former
colleagues
senator
joe
bowen
passed
away
and
frankly,
I'm
in
disbelief
that
happened
and
just
asked
members
and
the
audience
and
anyone
watching
on
ket
to
keep
vicki
and
his
whole
family
and
our
thoughts
and
prayers.
And
if
we
could
just
have
a
few
seconds
of
silence
for
joe
bowen.
C
That
troubled
me
in
on
many
levels,
and
certainly
I
think
we
pride
ourselves
on
being
hospitable
and
the
hospitality
and
and
welcoming
people
of
from
all
walks
of
life
to
to
the
bluegrass,
and,
I
think
to
me
it
sent
a
message
of
who's
actually
gonna,
be
welcome
in
these
facilities
and
and
and
it's
not
a
very
welcoming
thing
and
notwithstanding
kobat
and
all
the
modern
reasons
that
people
are
doing
this,
I
think
it's
not
appropriate
at
this
time.
C
Taxpayers
have
a
lot
of
skin
in
the
game
there
they
attend
functions
there.
We
want
them
to
continue
to
that
to
maximize
return
on
investment.
I
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
credit
cards.
I
I
like
the
deal
in
cash
and-
and
I
think
a
lot
of
my
constituents
do
too
and
and
this
america
cash
is
legal
tender.
I
have
a
a
pretty
impressive
list
of
co-sponsors
at
this
time
on
this
measure,
and
I
would
just
ask
its
passage.
Okay,.
A
Members,
do
we
have
any
questions?
We
have
motion
senator
mills.
We
had
a
lot
of
seconds.
Senator
wheeler
will
put
down
as
the
second
there.
If
there
are
no
further,
is
there
any
questions?
Let's
see,
none,
okay,.
B
D
Mr
chairman,
please
do
I
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
this.
I
was
looking
at
this
issue
not
specific
to
this
location,
but
in
general
almost
a
year
ago,
and
you
inspired
me
to
go
ahead
and
follow
that
bill
this
year.
But
this
is
super
important,
because
lexington
is
located
in
one
of
our
largest
urban-ish
areas
and
managed
by
people
who
are
not
from
rural
kentucky
and
if
you're
from
rural
kentucky
you
understand,
cash
is
king.
D
That's
how
we
operate,
it's,
how
we've
always
operated
it's,
how
we're
going
to
keep
operating
and
it's
2022
and
it's
what
we
should
be
able
to
do,
and
I
think
that
having
lexington
close
out
the
edges
of
the
state
in
this
way
is
is
terrible.
Uk
is
something
everybody
joins
around
in
this
state
from
all
edges
and
we
need
to
welcome
them
all.
Thank
you.
E
I'm
going
to
vote
I'm
going
to
spend
my
eye
vote.
Okay,
I'm
going
to
vote
eye
on
this
bill
because
I
do
agree
with
senator
webb's
premise
that
that
going
cashless
does
indeed
discriminate
against
impoverished
individuals.
I
think
she's
absolutely
right
about
that,
because
you
know
people
with
with
not
a
lot
of
money.
Don't
have
credit
cards,
don't
have
debit
cards,
they
generally
live
cash
to
cash
and,
as
as
senator
webb
knows,
most
people
know
I'm
I'm
I'm
opposed
to
any
kind
of
discriminatory
treatment
against
any
individuals.
E
I
do
think
being
from
lexington
that
that
we
lease
ought
to
hear
from
these
entities
as
to
why
this
is
this.
This
approach
is
financially
beneficial
for
from
them.
From
the
standpoint
of
cost
staffing
personnel,
there
may
be
some
legitimate
reasons
that,
from
an
economic
standpoint,
they
want
to
go
this
way.
I've
not
heard
that
yet
so
I
do
reserve
the
right
to
change
my
vote
on
the
senate
floor,
but
on
his
face
I
think
this
bill
is
non-discriminatory.
E
F
Mr
chairman
explain
my
vote.
Please
do
I
also
want
to
thank
the
gentlelady
from
carter
for
bringing
this
bill
she's
right.
This
is
america,
and
the
us
dollar
is
king,
and
that
is
unfair
to
penalize
people,
especially
from
rural
areas
that
want
to
attend
uk
and
some
of
the
great
events
that
are
held
at
rupp
arena
by
not
accepting
cash.
So
I
want
to
thank
her
for
bringing
this
bill
and
I'll
gladly
ask
to
be
made
a
co-sponsor
when
it
comes
to
the
floor.
Thank
you.
G
Explain
my
yes
vote.
Please
please
do
as
a
guy,
you
should
teach
dave,
ramsey
financial
peace
through
my
church.
I've
cut
up
a
lot
of
credit
cards
with
individuals,
and
so,
but
I
do
see
that
how
that
could
be
discriminatory.
I
do
think
this
is
appropriate
here,
because
the
amount
of
state
money
that
goes
to
this
facility,
I
would
never
be
voting
for
a
bill
that
I
think
that
would
require
a
general
business
or
public
without
oversight.
Doing
that.
G
A
I
vote
I
as
well
center
resolution.
147
passes.
Congratulations.
I
think
this
is
two
weeks
in
a
row.
You
pass
one
of
your
resolutions
or
bills,
so
yeah
good,
it's
good
to
have
you
in
the
committee.
I
will
entertain
a
motion
for
consent.
E
Mr
chair,
I
would
like
to
object
to
consent
because
again,
as
I
said,
I
I
want
to
reserve
the
right
to
talk
to
other
people
with
rupp
arena
with
central
bank
center.
I
think
at
least
their
voice
ought
to
be
heard,
so
I
would
ask
for
a
floor
vote
at
this
time.
A
Okay,
that's
that's
fine
with
me.
I
mean
we
can
consent
or
no
consent.
We
can
always
talk
to
people.
However,
I'm
happy
to
respect
that
it
will
not
be
on
consent.
We'll
we'll
ask
senator
webb
to
explain
this
on
the
floor
and
I.
A
A
H
H
We've
we've
got
lots
of
pressing
issues
in
front
of
the
commonwealth
that
I
think
far
outweigh
the
significance
of
this
bill,
but
this
is
still
something
that
I
think
we
should
take
up.
In
fact,
I've
had
a
version
of
this
bill
in
front
of
a
committee
in
the
senate
before
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
that
particular
part
is
related
to
section
seven
and
I'll
get
to
that
in
a
moment.
H
But
since
then,
since
two
years
ago,
we've
added
what
is
now
the
first
six
sections
of
the
bill
which
addresses
something
that
in
the
last
several
years,
has
really
exploded
here
in
america
and
around
the
world,
certainly
right
here
in
kentucky
and
that's
the
the
use
of
streaming
for
getting
our
music
entertainment,
I'm
an
apple
music
subscriber,
and
this
certainly
would
apply
to
apple,
music
and
other
providers.
H
But
I'm
going
to
let
raphael
explain
the
importance
of
both
of
these
provisions.
Both
the
section
3,
really
the
section
3,
which
is
about
streaming
music
platforms
and
other
web,
delivered
digital
music
and
then
section
7,
the
bit
about
bands
performing
live
and
trying
to
avoid
deceptive
trade
practices
in
both
instances.
A
The
senator
before
your
guest
speaks
did
you
have
a
committee
subject.
A
Okay,
I
would
make
a
motion
to
adopt
this
sub.
We
have
a
second,
I
believe,
valid
center
storm.
All.
F
H
It
none
of
the
changes
were
substantive,
really
just
corrections
and
and
clarifications
in
there.
I've
I've
given
a
summary
of
the
sub,
that's
in
front
of
the
committee
and
I'll
ask
raphael
fernandez
to
address
you
all
now.
I
Welcome.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
committee
members.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
a
few
minutes
and
thank
you
senator
for
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
I'm
with
the
recording
industry
association
of
america.
We
represent
over
450
labels
in
the
united
states,
including
universal
music
warner,
music
and
sony.
I
The
music
industry
here
in
kentucky
contributes
over
half
a
billion
dollars
to
the
gdp
to
the
state
gdp.
It
supports
over
8
500
jobs
has
more
than
14
000
songwriters
that
hail
from
the
state
kentucky
is,
has
a
bluegrass
scene,
that's
second,
to
none.
It's
well
known
around
the
country,
music,
icons,
loretta,
lynn,
dwight,
joachim
sergio
simpson,
chris
stapleton
billy
ray
cyrus
all
come
from
the
state.
Many
many
more.
I
I
This
bill
has
two
parts
number
one:
it
identifies
red
flags
for
music
fans
on
websites
that
distribute
music
so
that
they
know
whether
they're
on
a
legitimate
site
or
not.
I
The
second
piece
is
the
one
that
was
brought
in
back
in
2020,
protecting
not
only
the
fans
but
also
the
artists
from
imposter
bands
and
protecting
their
legacies.
I
And
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
you
know
from
what
I
just
discussed
on
the
streaming
piece
going
from
five
percent?
All
the
way
to
95
or
85
percent
in
streaming
is
that
over
the
last
30
years,
we've
had
in
all
the
states
a
thing
called
the
true
name
and
address
statute,
and
that
says
that,
for
all
physical
product,
music
or
movies,
the
the
person's
true
name
and
address
should
be
listed
somewhere
on
that
cd
or
on
the
dvd,
and
it
is,
if
not,
you
violated
state
law.
I
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
just
bring
that
now
to
the
21st
century,
where
websites
are
the
ones
that
are
distributing
the
music
and
the
movies,
so
that
piece
of
it
takes
care
of
that.
First
piece
takes
care
of
that
on
the
second
piece,
the
truth
in
music
advertising.
It
prevents
imposter
bands
from
using
the
name
of
a
recording
group
or
artist
in
advertising
of
a
live
performance
to
confuse
consumers
on
who
is
actually
performing.
I
This
protects
the
legacy,
artists
and
their
estates.
In
essence,
if
I've
got
my
band
and
it's
called
the
boys
band,
I
can't
say
or
advertise
that
I'm
going
to
perform
billy
ray
cyrus
a
performance
of
billy
ray
cyrus.
I
have
to
say
that
I
am
a
tribute
band
and
if
I
do
that,
then
then
it's
okay.
It
really
provides
for
a
couple
of
things.
I
If
you
have
the
original
group
or
a
member
from
the
original
group
in
the
band
and
they're
authorized,
this
does
not
apply
to
you
or,
if
the,
if
the
artist
or
band
provides
you
with
the
licensing
to
to
use
their
name,
it
does
not
apply
to
you.
It
does
not
apply
if
you're
a
salute
or
a
tribute
ban.
It's
only
to
make
sure
that
you're
not
confusing
the
public
by
thinking
that
they're
selling
or
buying
a
ticket
to
see
somebody
that
that's
not
going
to
be
there.
I
Two
pretty
simple
pieces
of
legislation,
understanding
that,
with
with
so
many
things
that
are
going
on
around
the
country
and
after
covet
and
all
the
issues
that
all
the
states
are
dealing
with,
including
yourselves
here
in
kentucky.
We
certainly
appreciate
you
favorably
looking
at
this
bill
and
and
passing
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
H
You
rafael
I'll
add
that
the
penalty
provisions
and
sort
of
the
consequences
of
violations
all
point
to
the
existing
consumer
protection
statute.
We've
got
in
kentucky
under
chapter
367.
A
F
F
I
guess
one
question
I
had
you
know.
Obviously
different
countries
have
different
copyright
dates
on
on
different
types
of
music.
I
think
what
the
european
union,
I
believe,
is
what
50
years
and
it
seems
like
in
america,
we
keep
on
extending
it
back.
I
think
it's
up
to
what
75
at
this
point,
you
know,
I
guess
one
question
I
have
is
how
how
are
you
going
to
ensure
your
kind
of
uniform
application.
H
Well,
if
I
could
take
a
stab
at
first,
the
the
first
sections
of
the
bill
just
make
sure
it.
None
of
that
has
any
bearing
we're
just
saying
if
you're
going
to
run
a
website
that
streams,
av
intellectual
property
of
some
kind,
music
or
video
or
whatever
you've
just
got
to
provide
contact
information
for
where
you
are
and
who
you
are
and
where
you're
doing
business
out
of
just
so
frankly,
if,
if
there
are
improper
practices,
you
can
identify
that
provider,
that's
the
way.
H
I
read
this
and
the
way
that
I
I
imagine
the
useful
of
the
usefulness
of
that
language
and
then
the
second
part
is
about
tribute
bands
and
making
sure
that,
if
you're
gonna,
if
you're
gonna,
have
a
tribute
band
that
it's
advertised
as
a
tribute
or
a
salute
sort
of
band
and
that
you
don't
have
imposters
trying
to
get
away
with
being
an
imposter
without
their
banks
and
the
bill
sets
out
there
in
section
in
section,
seven
or
rather
yeah
section
seven,
this
section
that
these
changes
won't
require
or
won't
apply.
H
If
the
performing
group
is
an
authorized
registrant
or
owner
of
the
federal
service
market
trademark
or
a
licensee
has
at
least
one
member
of
the
original
performing
group
was
a
member
of
that,
a
group
that
has
the
legal
right
to
use
it
or
is
clearly
advertised
as
a
tribute
band
and
I'm
summarizing
there.
I
don't
think
any
of
those
have
anything
to
do
with.
H
I
think
that's
that's
going
to
be
uniformly
applied,
regardless
of
who
owns
what
for
how
long?
In
fact
it
shouldn't
have
any
bearing
on
that
at
all.
J
I
Well,
there
are
separate
organizations,
we,
we
represent
the
music
labels
directly
and
they
represent
the
the
singers,
the
songwriters
musicians
to
recover
those
fees.
You
know
for
restaurants
and
performance
areas,
so.
J
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
I'm
trying
to
get
a
solid
handle.
I
know.
Senator
westfield
you've
mentioned
a
couple
of
times,
there's
two
things
in
this
bill
and
there's
like
seven
sections
and
I
know
they're
kind
of
segmented
out,
so
I
like
short
laws,
but
also
like
few
laws
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
because
it
looks
like
it
it
borders
on
intellectual
property,
but
then
you're
saying
we're
really
just
focusing
on.
Do
they
have
their
contact
information
on
their
website
and
are
they
not
putting
fake
information
out
about
performances?
H
H
D
To
say
I
I
was
intending
to
do
all
of
that
work
for
me
and
my
sisters
when
we
released
our
album
and
my
sister
ended
up
having
to
do
all
of
it.
So
I
don't
know
exactly
what
I'm
talking
about
here
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
it.
H
It
does
not,
it
does
not
really
the
the
meat
of
the
first
seven
sec
or
six
sections
deal
in
its
section.
Two
sub
one
is
really
the
gist
of
it:
a
person
who
operates
a
website
or
online
service
dealing
in
the
electronic
dissemination
of
third-party
commercial
recordings
or
audio
visual
work
so
and
so
on.
Sha
clearly
and
conspicuously
disclose
his
or
her
true
and
correct
name.
Physical
address,
telephone
number
and
email
address
on
their
website
or
online
service
in
a
location
readily
accessible
to
a
consumer.
H
Before
it,
I
want
to
hear
senator
gates
question
a
specific
example
of
that
and
raphael,
and
I
were
talking
about
that
this
morning
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
these
operators
that
are
in
other
parts
of
the
world
that
go
out
of
their
way
to
conceal
exactly
who
they
are,
where
they
are
and
and
make
it
very
difficult.
Even
looking
up
the
whois
information
for
the
url
for
who
owns
the
domain
may
not
be
able
to
tell
you
everything
other
than
a
registrar.
There
are
lots
of
ways
to
conceal
that
sorry.
D
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
because
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
do,
and
I
just
texted
my
sister,
how
in
the
world
do
we
but
we're
first
party,
so
we're
not
third
party
on
our
website,
but
but
I
think
you're
catching.
I
think
you've
narrowly
drawn
this,
even
though
it's
you
know
six
pages
catching
the
those
pirate
groups
and
and
not
sure.
H
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
senator
westerfield.
I
think
picked
up
a
little
bit
on
it.
Got
that
clairvoyant
thing
going
about.
My
concern
was
a
lot
that
have
located
in
other
parts
of
the
world.
How
do
we
enforce
that?
First
of
all,
so,
even
if
we
pass
the
statue
into
it,
how
do
we
enforce
it?
And
then?
My
second
part
is
these
are
all
supplemental.
In
addition
to
the
other
federal
restrictions
and
state
laws
too,
I
don't
think
it
wouldn't.
H
I
G
Up,
mr
chairman,
I've
had
the
benefit
of
being
able
to
represent
a
couple
artists
over
the
years,
and
you
know
obviously
you're
going
to
be
looking
through
your
consumer
protection
statute.
Right
now,
it
looks
like
you've.
You've
mentioned
that
in
here,
so
there'd
be
nothing
that
would
preempt
that
anyway
and
then
the
fine
in
the
penalty
that
says
the
two
thousand
dollars
per
violation
to
the
commonwealth.
I'm
in
the
event
that
council
has
to
go
to
collect
that
in
that.
How
does
that
work
out?
G
Does
the
money
is
cheap
back
to
the
commonwealth,
or
would
that
be
based
recovery
for
the
individual
private
attorney
who's
following
this
case,
or
would
it
be
something
that
we
would
go
to?
Is
the
commonwealth
of
the
ag's
office
go
to
enforce
individually?
I
used
to
be
at
the
ag's
office,
consumer
protection
litigation
as
well,
so
I'm
just
curious
how
we
foresee
that
being
handled.
I
So
a
person
that
owns
the
rights
to
the
music
can
actually
identify
that
that
that
website
is
not
licensed
and
under
the
this
statute.
If
it
passes
under
the
bills
the
language
they
can
go
to
court
and
and
and
pursue
it
through
the
courts.
Now
what's
happened
in
florida
and
tennessee,
where
we
do
have
this
this
language
already
as
a
statute,
the
court
provides
a
court
order
because
in
most
cases,
as
as
the
senator
mentioned,
these
people
are
are
out
of
the
country.
I
They
provide
a
quarter
that
where
we
can
go
to
who
is
or
go
daddy
and
say,
here's
a
court
order
that
says
the
you
know
then
show
up.
This
is
in
essence,
pull
the
url
and
and
lock
them
out
of
the
site.
So
it
removes
that
site
from
being
an
issue
in
the
united
states,
even
if
it's
for
10
minutes,
because
normally
these
these
people
will
come
back
with
a
different
name,
a
little
tweak.
I
But
we've
already
found
that
it
reduces
the
the
level
of
people
going
through
there
by
80
90
because
they
lost
the
traction.
So
in
most
of
those
cases
those
people
go
to
legitimate
music
sites
and
and
and
they're
safer
in
the
legitimate
music
sites
than
they
are.
You
know
going
through
these
sites
which,
by
the
way,
look
very
much
like
a
legitimate
music
site.
A
A
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Scott
miller
is
somebody
I've
known
professionally
for
several
years.
I
think,
if
you
ask
any
practitioner
in
the
workers,
compensation
field
he's
considered
one
of
the
more
reasonable
and
frankly
easy
to
get
along
with
guys
that
you'll
ever
meet.
In
fact,
I
know
very
few
people
that
don't
like
scott
miller
and
he
brings
that
same
even-handedness
of
personality
as
well
as
an
extremely
extensive
personal
knowledge
of
the
workers
compensation
field
to
the
workers
compensation
board.
F
In
fact,
you
know
scott
was
instrumental
in
actually
developing
a
lot
of
the
current
law
that
we
operate
under
so
in
2000.
So
in
that
sense,
his
his
knowledge
of
workers,
compensation
is,
is,
to
some
degree
probably
is,
is
as
in
depth
and
and
broad
as
anybody
in
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky.
So
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
appointment
to
the
workers
compensation
board
and
I
would
encourage
his
nomination
to
be
confirmed.
A
A
Vote
I
as
well
center
resolution
152
does
pass
with
favorable
expression.
We
have
a
motion
for
consent
from
sarah
wilson.
We
have
a
second
from
center
storm,
all
those
in
favor
of
adding
the
consent
calendar.
Please
sign
them
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
hearing.
None
will
be
on
consent.
Thank
you.
Members.
We
are
going
to
go
back
for
just
one
second
to
senate
bill
272.
A
A
We
have
center
storm.
I
need
a
second
second
center
mills,
all
those
in
favor
of
adding
senate
bill
272,
as
amended
by
the
committee
substitute
one
for
the
consent.
Counter.
Please
signal
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
it'll
be
on
consent.
Thank
you.
Sarah
westfield
members
last
is
senate
concurrent
resolution
168..
This
is
mine.
I'm
going
to
proceed
to
the
table
with
john
cox
from
the
kentucky
chamber
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
senator
wheeler
to
chair
the
committee.
A
Thank
you,
members,
and
I
think
it
probably
took
me
longer
to
walk
to
the
table
than
it
will
to
present
this
bill,
but
that's
not
a
sign
of
its
importance
by
any
means,
because
it
is
a
very
important
bill.
A
Basically
what
it
comes
down
to
or
a
resolution,
I
should
say
what
it
comes
down
to
is
kentucky
between
federal,
local
and
state
investments
and
workforce
is
spending
over
900
million
dollars
close
to
a
billion
dollars
for
workforce
education,
and
what
we
simply
want
to
do
is
have
an
audit
done
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
best
return
on
investment
for
that
workforce,
education,
and
we
have
made
the
request
for
the
budget
for
an
audit,
and
at
this
time
I
will
just
turn
it
over
to
john
cox.
For
a
few
quick
remarks.
Thank.
K
You,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
john
cox,
director
of
public
affairs
at
the
kentucky
chamber
of
commerce.
I
realized
that
the
workforce
issues
we've
been
having
across
the
state
are:
no,
you
know
you
all
are
obviously
very
familiar
with
those.
So
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
say
this
resolution
is
in
no
really
critical
of
the
current.
You
know
workforce
programming
and
the
employees
in
the
commonwealth
that
implement
and
execute
those
programs
in
our
business
and
workforce
community.
K
This
was
part
of
a
recommendation
that
a
part
of
a
sizable
report
we
released
in
this
fall
to
you
know
highlight
the
workforce
crisis
that
we've
been
having
not
just
since
covet
but
over
the
last
20
years
in
this
state,
due
to
a
variety
of
factors.
So
we
think
this
is
a
common
sense
measure
that
you
know
will
benefit
our
workforce
moving
forward.
A
Thank
you,
john,
and
I
would
just
add.
Not
only
was
it
a
recommendation,
this
fall,
but
I
believe
the
first
time
the
recommendation
was
made
by
the
chamber
to
do
this
was
back
in
2015
when
they
released
their
kentucky
workforce
challenge
report
so
correct
since
2015,
and
I
think
it's
about
time
we
do
that.
D
A
So
this
is
going
to
go
outside
of
the
lrc
and
encompass
a
bigger.
I
think
just
more
detailed
analysis
than
was
previously
done.
D
A
Well,
I
think
that
they're
going
to
consider
that
I'll
have
to
find
out
frankly
more
about
that
report
and
that's
something
to
consider
this
hasn't
been.
You
know
we're
asking
to
be
included
in
the
budget.
We
haven't
put
out
an
rfp
or
anything
so
as
far
as
what
we
decide
as
the
general
assembly
would
be,
the
appropriate
scope
of
this
is
is
still
up
to
us.
D
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
final
comment.
I
spent
two
years
of
my
life
working
on
this
project
and
I
was
told
the
lrc
had
gone
further
than
anyone
had
before
and
then
I
was
told
I
got
further
than
anyone
before
that
and
I
ended
up
turning
all
my
work
over
to
deloitte
in
it
and
they
had
the
new
strategic
plan
and,
frankly,
I'm
totally
disappointed
in
contracts
committee.
We
have
kind
of
a
thing
we
talk
about
deloitte,
but
it
was.
D
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
senator
for
bringing
this
ever
so
often
in
local
government.
We
would
do
that
to
constantly,
as
we
were,
trying
to
do
the
workforce
training,
because
every
couple
years
we'd
figure
out
how
do
we
align
our
job
training
programs
with
the
jobs
needed
and
in
today's
ever
changing
beth
you
covered.
I
know
that's
had
significant
changes
recently,
so
I'm
all
for
this,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
proper
training.
G
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
also
getting
the
best
bang
for
our
buck
and
I'm
sure
that
you
answered
the
question
as
far
as
the
rfp
hadn't
gone
out,
yet
I
was
going
to
ask
what
we
anticipate
the
cost
to
be
and
then
make
sure
that
that
was
working
in
conjunction
with
our
previous
studies
in
the
lrc.
G
A
We
we
did
not,
so
I
can
tell
you
that
I
personally,
when
we
you
know,
had
the
budget
request,
forms
asked
for
a
half
a
million
dollars.
That
is
not,
though,
that's
just
my
request,
so
we
it's
yet
to
we're.
Gonna,
seek
lrc's
feedback
and
also
talk
to
third
parties
about
just
even
crafting
the
rfp.
What
you
know
if
we
had
x
amount
I'll,
just
say
250
000..
If
we
do
that,
how
much
would
it
get
us?
Typically,
if
we
do
half
a
million?
How
much
does
it
get
us?
Typically,
you
know.
A
Are
we
just
talking
about
all
the
all
the
programs
at
the
state?
Is
it
pass
through?
Are
they
going
to
be
able,
with
that
amount,
to
go
down
to
the
local
level
and
get
collect
feedback,
so
that's
yet
to
be
determined,
but
the
request
that
I
made
was
for
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
if.
G
I
may
just
follow
up
mr
chair
briefly.
Just
briefly
that
would
be
my
request
is
that
we
have
all
the
individual,
the
economic
economically.
That's
where
it
is
it's
where
it's,
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road.
So
I
think
it
only
makes
sense
that
we
work
all
the
way
down
with
the
local
governments
and
to
make
sure
you
have
that
upward.
G
E
Thank
you,
chairman,
wheeler
and,
and
my
comments
really
want
to
echo
those
of
cinder
southwards,
because
I,
I
think
she's
definitely
on
the
right
track
here
again.
If
you
look
at
the
my
my
focus
is:
is
on
the
bottom
of
page
one
lines:
26
and
27
that
spill
over
to
lines,
one
two
and
three
on
page
two,
I
have
to
agree
a
senator
shorter
that
I
am
very
wary
of
of
these
studies
that
we
pay
for
now,
I'm
not
the
the
financial
guru
here.
E
We
fortunately
have
senator
mcdaniels
on
our
committee
who,
who
oversees
and
monitors
the
who's
the
gatekeeper
the
funds
really
for
the
legislature
here,
but
you
know
I
just
am
concerned
about
these
studies
because
they
never
seem
to
go
anywhere
and-
and
so
so.
Therefore,
I
agree
with
sender
southwest
I've
served
on
a
number
of
interim
committees
in
which
we
study
things.
You
know:
child
external
fatality
review,
alzheimer's,
this
past
session,
dealing
with
school
funding,
and
I
think
those
have
worked
better
for
us.
We've
gotten
more
done.
E
E
Obviously,
obviously
this
will
come
back
to
us
on
july,
31st
2022,
I'm
gonna
make
every
every
effort
to
be
here
when
we
do
that,
because
if,
if,
if
I'm,
let
me
be
clear,
if
I'm
not
happy
with
what
we
see
the
rfp
and
his
benchmarks,
I'm
gonna
vote
against
that,
because
I
think
we
ought
to
spend
our
money
to
do
things
not
study
things.
I
agree
with
you
senator
southward
and
your
concern.
F
Okay,
saying
no
further
questions:
adam
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.
A
D
Explain
my
vote.
Mr
chairman.
D
I'm
going
to,
I
will
do
an
I
vote,
because
there
are
a
few
more
layers
to
this
before
we
get
there
and
I'm
on
the
contracts
committee
and
if
it
gets
really
bad,
I
can
vote
no
there,
but
I
am
extremely
concerned
about
what
the
rfp
says
and
who
the
contractor
is,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
my
the
main
focus
on.
I
think
we
need
to
get
a
handle
on
this,
though
I
mean
I
spent
way
too
much
time.
D
I
should
have
been
able
to
get
a
handle
on
it
in
six
months
and
it
was
like
two
years
and
six
months
and
we
still
don't
have
a
handle
on
it.
So
I
know
the
disaster
we're
sitting
in
and
I
would
love
for
someone
to
come
in
and
be
the
magic
carpet
to
just
take
us
all
away,
I'm
just
hoping
that
it
happens,
but
I'm
obviously
concerned
about
the
viability
of
the
plan.
So
I'm
a
yes
for
now.
E
E
I
think
that's
something
we
could
really
do
ourselves
and
not
and
save
ourselves
a
half
million
dollars,
but
for
the
sake
of
giving
this,
the
good
old
college
try.
I'm
gonna
vote
I
for
now,
but
I
really
hope
that
that
we
keep
our
safeguards
up
and
not
just
spend
money
unnecessarily.
E
J
G
Explain
my
yes
vote,
please!
You
may
first
of
all
just
want
to
remind
the
committee
that
this
is
a
resolution
for
the
rfp
that
we
will
later
on
determine,
and
I
think
that
absolutely
makes
sense.
You
don't
build
a
house
without
a
plan.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
that
we
have
those
blueprints
put
together
with
that
being
said,
I
think
there's
been
some
great
remarks
from
my
colleagues
that
we
don't
want
to
create
some
of
the
past
issues
that
we've
otherwise
been
chastised
with.