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A
Outstanding
committee
on
local
government
back
into
order
and
we
are
going
to
go
through
the
road
one
more
time
to
see
who
has
been
able
to
join
us.
It
was
unable
to
another
note
for
housekeeping
measures
when
this
committee
meeting
is
over
we're
going
to
stand
at
ease
for
a
few
minutes.
We
have
a
number
of
members
that
have
multiple
commit
committee
meetings
at
the
same
time
and
we're
going
to
allow
time
for
them
to
come
back
in
and
place
our
votes.
A
C
E
F
A
G
Yep
with
us
today
is
Rockcastle
County
judge,
executive,
Hal,
Holbrook,
okay,.
A
H
H
I
Of
all,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
be
here,
I,
thank
representative
Whitman
for
being
a
sponsor
and
to
the
chair
and
for
the
membership
here
as
a
whole.
Thank
you
for
hearing
this
Common
Sense
bill
that
is
going
to
actually
benefit
the
whole
state
of
Kentucky,
and
so
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
I'm
thankful
and
great,
and
truly
grateful
that
now
we'll
be
able
to
be
in
a
position
where
we're
actually
grabbing
Talent
at
a
younger
age
and
which
is
going
to
make
a
difference
for
our
state.
So
again,
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
any
other
comments,
we're
pleased
to
have
you.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
I'm.
Sorry,
representative,
Stevenson.
K
Go
ahead,
promote
me,
I
have
a
question.
What's
in
the
amendment,
what
does
the
amendment
change.
A
Believe
one
of
the
last
amendments
added
Lexington
to
that
we
we
didn't
realize
they
were
in
the
same
class
as
little
when
we
donated
them.
So
we
appreciate
that
with
that
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
House
Bill
380,
as
amended
by
the
committee
sub.
We'll
now
take
the
rule.
L
F
A
D
D
In
2022,
we
passed
KRS
42.740,
creating
the
geographic
information
advisory
Council
to
provide
advice
and
professional
counsel
to
the
executive
director
of
The
Commonwealth
office
of
Technology
in
the
2022
legislation,
section
4,
subsection
B.
It
provides
for
the
membership
of
stakeholder
groups
on
the
advisory
Council,
specifically
items
16-24
provide
for
the
appointment
of
members
to
The
Advisory
Council
by
the
Governor
from
lists
submitted
for
his
consideration
in
sections
18-24.
It
requires
a
submission
of
three
names
from
which
the
governor
shall
make
an
appointment.
A
D
D
D
L
F
A
D
M
O
We
appreciate
it
Mr,
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
this
house
bill
kind
of
combines
up
three
or
four
different
issues
that
our
members
have
brought
to
us
over
the
last
over
the
last
year
or
a
couple
years
in
fact
related
to
procurement
and
disposition
of
surplus
property.
So
there
are
a
couple
of
procedural
things
section,
one
through
three
of
the
bill
clarifies
the
residential
bitter
preference
statute
under
the
state
procurement
code.
That
I
think
was
made
applicable
inadvertently
at
the
time
it
was
enacted
to
local
governments.
O
Local
governments,
procurement
process
doesn't
flow
along
with
the
state's
procurement
process.
There's
not
a
grading
on
one
two,
a
point
system
or
things
of
that
nature
that
hasn't
been
able
to
be
fully
implemented.
So
sections
one
through
three
strike:
the
term
public
agency
and
replace
it
with
governmental
body,
which
makes
clear
that
the
residential
bidder,
preference
statutes
are
applicable
to
the
state
in
state
agencies.
O
Section
three
of
the
bill
or
section
four
of
the
bill
deals
with
the
disposition
of
surplus
property,
the
city
process
for
dealing
with
the
disposition
of
surplus
property
and
clarifies
property
that
has
no
value,
can
be
disposed
of
as
scrap
or
trash.
So
it
clarifies
that
if
it
has
no
value,
you
don't
have
to
go
through
all
the
procedural
steps.
It
also
raises
the
amount
for
being
able
to
dispose
of
property
without
sealed
bids,
from
five
thousand
to
ten
thousand.
That
has
not
been
raised
in
several
years
motion.
A
I
have
one
over
the
years
we've
we've
had
several
Wheels
come
up
and
for
an
example
of
this,
could
you
explain
to
me,
like
a
police
dog,
coming
out
of
service?
What.
O
That's
that's
also
in
section
four,
when
we
retire
when
a
city
government
retires
service,
animals
like
a
canine
or
a
horse
from
a
canine
perspective,
we'd
have
to
go
through
the
bidding
process,
but
really,
if
you
have
a
police
dog,
it
has
to
go
to
its
handle
or
trainer
if
it
doesn't
go
to
its
handle
or
trainer
the
Alternatives
at
retirement.
Aren't
that
aren't
that
attractive.
O
K
J
A
A
C
A
If
you
don't
mind
to
introduce
yourself
and
explain
your
bill.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
ladies
and
gentlemen.
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
my
guest
is
not
here,
so
he
had
helped
me
with
the
committee
sub
representative
Fleming,
but
so
any
as.
A
A
Okay,
now,
please,
let's
go
back
to
house
bill
419
as
amended
by
committee
sub,
and
please
introduce
your
esteemed
guest
today.
E
I'm
Ken
Fleming,
representative
of
the
48th
District
I,
represent
Oldham
in
Jefferson
County.
A
C
You
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
this
is
the
committee
sub
is,
is
a
cleanup
on
some
of
the
language
and
the
mapping
that
a
bill
that
I
believe
you
and
some
others
had
passed
last
year
or
year
before,
and
it's
just
some
needed.
Technical
changes
in
representative
Fleming
was
so
nice
to
help
me
and
was
a
co-sponsor
and
helped
with
the
committee
sub
and
if,
if
he
would
like,
he
can
explain
some
of
the
the
changes
made
and
why
it's
needed.
E
E
I
know
I
know
one
thing:
it
dealt
with
standardizing
the
the
databases
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we
have
a
uniform
criteria
and
meets
standards
of
throughout
you
know
throughout
the
nation.
Basically,
this
to
let
you
know
my
background
is
aerosurvey.
Mapping
and
I
was
I,
was
a
homeowned
company
and
then
also
was
president
of
National
Association
for
sort
of
quite
a
few
years-
and
this
is
a
this-
is
a
a
nationwide
approach
in
order
to
standardize
information
in
order
to
make
sure
that
data
is,
is
uniform.
It's
accurate.
E
It
provides
the
best
possible
consumer
protection,
for
example,
when
it
comes
to
FEMA,
came
in
in
West
Kentucky.
They
complimented
on
how
wonderful
that
the
state
had
in
their
GIS
system
in
terms
of
providing
a
very
accurate
personal
information
so
forth.
So
this
basically
helps
standardize
this
throughout
the
state
in
order
to
help
accomplish
those
goals.
So
that's
basically,
as
basically
it's
going
through
and
adopting
these
standards
and
making
sure
we
are
up
up
to
Snuff
when
it
comes
to
that
type
of
criteria.
A
Yes,
representative
Meredith
has
a
question.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
I've
just
got
one
kind
of
technical
question:
the
bottom
of
page,
one
subsection
B
there
where
it
says
that
those
cannot
be
redistributed,
sold,
shared
or
used
for
any
commercial
purpose.
E
Regard
to
parcel
data,
yep
representative
Meredith,
my
Approach,
when
we're
when
I
was
with
the
maps,
that's
the
name
of
the
organization.
We
always
go
through
map,
it
once
reuse
it
many
times,
and
so
this
is
public
info.
This
is
public
data
and
and
money
going
into
that
process
and
so
you're,
basically
charging
something
that
people
have
already
paid
for.
So
this
is.
This
is
more
of
a
transparent,
Universal
approach
to
try
to
make
sure
that
people
have
the
upmost
information.
E
I
did
talk
to
the
test
of
pbas
about
this
to
a
certain
degree,
they
will
be
saving
money
on
their
Contracting
that
they
will
have
in
in
terms
of
providing
that
information.
Now
this
will
help
provide
them
money
that
they
will
help
save
in
doing
that
now
it
just
go
to
go
back
to
your
point.
Is
that
yes,
can
they
resell
that,
possibly,
but
I
think
the
savings
will
basically
weigh
outweigh
the
cost
that
they
they
might
or
the
revenues
they
might
see,
receive.
C
E
E
A
With
that
house,
bill
419,
as
amended
by
committee
sub,
passes
with
favorable
expression
that
the
bill
should
pass.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
Thank
you.
A
We're
going
to
now
move
to
House
Bill
507
representative
Bray.
If
you
don't
mind
to
come
to
the
table,
introduce
yourself
and
any
guest,
you
may
have.
G
Representative
Josh
Bray
Kentucky
house,
district
71.
A
Welcome
representative
Petrie,
we're
glad
to
have
you
I
understand,
there's
a
house
committee.
So
we
have
a
motion,
have
a
second
all
those
in
favor
say
those
opposed
house
committee
sub
passes.
Please
take
the
excuse.
G
I
will
be
speaking
to
the
bill
as
amended
by
the
sub,
we'll
go
through
what
it
does
and
why
the
sub
was
necessary,
so
local
government
County
government,
specifically
the
the
biggest
issue
they
face,
is
the
burden
that
the
jail
system
plays
within
their
their
finances.
G
Recently
there
was
a
lawsuit
filed
that
aim
to
rectify
some
of
those
issues,
and
while
that
is
playing
out,
it's
necessary
for
us
as
the
general
assembly
to
look
at.
How
can
we
reform
the
current
system
that
the
county
jail
system
and
the
financial
burdens
that
that
place
on
it,
but
it?
G
So
that's
the
purpose
of
the
bill.
It
puts
a
two-year
moratorium
on
new
facility
construction
if
that
government
has
to
take
out
debt
on
it.
The
committee
sub
did
a
few
things.
Originally,
the
bill
was
five
years.
It
amended
it
down
to
two
years.
That
way,
I
mean
we
should
know
the
results
of
of
that
lawsuit
within
the
next
two
years.
G
It
also
we
took
some
language
from
the
jailers
association
and
from
the
magistrates
Association
to
make
sure
that
if
there
was
an
issue,
let's
say
an
HVAC
unit
goes
down
that
we
that
they
can
go
in
and
correct
those
problems
without
the
necessary.
You
know
hold
up
from
us
at
the
state,
because
I
mean
we
don't
want
to
increase
the
liability
on
counties
for
their
jails,
because
I
mean
they're
under
a
tremendous
amount
of
strain
as
it
is,
and
in
talking
with
you
know,
all
of
the
different
associations.
G
Everybody
knows
that
this
is
a
problem.
As
we
look
at
developing
the
policy
going
forward,
we
we
will
be
bringing
in
all
of
the
stakeholders
the
magisters
association,
the
the
jailers
association,
the
judge's
Executives
Association,
so
that
we
can.
We
can
look
at
overall.
What
what
can
we
do,
but
this
is
these
conversations
have
been
going
on
long
before
I
was
elected
up
here.
This
has
been
an
issue
for
for
decades
and.
A
We
have
a
motion
on
the
bill
in
a
second.
Do
you
have
any
more
comments?
We've
got
a
question:
okay,
I'm,
getting
ready
to
call
for
a
question.
Okay,
representative
Brown,
you
have
a
question
I.
P
Do
well
I
got
a
statement
first
and
then
a
question:
does
that
mean
we're
going
to
stop
incarcerating
so
many
folk
in
Kentucky.
G
P
The
issues
I
think
come
from
from
Housing
State
prisoners
in
in
county
and
local
jails.
This
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
that,
but
but
is
there
something
or
is
there
a
billing
works
or
something
that's
being
discussed
to
deal
with?
How
how
that
that
occurs?
I've
heard
that
in
other
committee
meetings
and
probably
in
this
one
about
the
length
of
time
that
that
state
prisoners
are
held
in
county
jails,
local
jails.
A
Q
As
you
know,
chair
Judiciary,
a
few
years
ago,
we
had
conversations
before
I
arrived
and
while,
during
that
time,
those
conversations
continue
in
my
current
role,
I
have
been
on
the
record
before
that
our
bifurcated
system
of
state
and
local
and
Housing
State
at
local
is
an
abhorrent
system
that
has
disincentives
built
all
the
way
through
it
and
I.
K
Q
O
A
A
The
judge,
Executives,
the
magistrates
and
many
others
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
the
last
few
days
and
there's
been
Zoom
calls
there's
been
phone
calls,
there's
been
an
amount
mass
amount
of
work
on
this
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
appreciate
everyone
in
their
involvement
and
look
forward
to
Future
discussions
as
this
progresses.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
L
G
Aye
former
chair
committee,
members,
John
Sims,
Fleming,
County,
judge,
executive.
G
A
Want
to
welcome
you
today,
especially
past
representative
Sims,
it's
good
to
see
you
again,
you're
doing
a
good
job.
So
with
that
representative
Lawrence,
you
may
have
the
floor.
L
Certainly,
as
you
see
today,
I
brought
with
me
some
reinforcements,
so
don't
give
us
a
hard
time
he's
used
to
this
place.
I
want
to
thank
them
for
coming
up
with
me,
representative.
Well,
former
representative
judge,
executive
now,
John
Sims
brought
this
to
my
attention
and
I
worked
with
Todd
Ruckel
on
this
issue.
The
procurement
rates
were
raised
in
2019
for
local
governments
to
not
have
to
bid
out
the
jobs.
L
It
was
more
of
an
expedience
type
thing
so
that
if
they
have
a
small
job,
they
raise
it
from
20
000
to
then
thirty
thousand.
We
are
hoping
to
raise
that
now
from
30
to
40.
000
talk
to
a
lot
of
the
judge
Executives,
especially
in
my
district
cities.
You
name
it
local,
sheriff's
departments,
they're
all
behind
it.
They
think
that
it's
a
great
operation.
A
A
We
have
a
motion
on
the
bill
in
a
second.
Do
we
have
any
questions?
A
M
A
K
L
F
A
A
R
I've
got
them:
I
am
state
representative,
Tom,
Smith
from
the
86th
District
Alan,
Knox
and
part
of
Southern
Laurel,
just
real
quick.
The
joint
resolution
70
two.
It
deals
with
the
establishing
a
multi-model
freight
transportation
system
task
force
and
we.
A
B
C
E
A
You
and
your
concern
with
that
we're
going
to
stand
at
ease
for
a
few
moments.
Those
that
need
to
leave
are
are
welcome
to,
but
we've
got
a
few
members
that
are
attending
other
committee
meeting
said
have
requested
to
keep
the
floor
open,
so
they
may
come
and
register
their
votes.
So
thank
everyone
for
coming
out
and
again.
I
want
to
express
my
appreciation
to
all
those
associations
and
Affiliated
groups
that
have
worked
with
us
over
these
bills.