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A
With
that
we're
going
to
begin
with
roll
call,
Madam
Secretary.
Would
you
please
call
the
roll.
C
A
Here
it
appears
we
have
a
quorum
present
and
our
duly
constituted
to
conduct
our
business.
Today,
let
me
Begin
by
welcoming
all
the
new
members
of
the
committee.
We
have
several
new
members
this
year
on
the
committee,
including
myself,
and
as
a
matter
of
fact,
nine
of
our
23
members
are
new
and
I
look
forward
to
a
productive
session
with
them
and
allow
me
to
take
just
a
moment
and
introduce
those.
A
Obviously
myself,
representative
Elliott
new
to
the
committee
representative
Hodgson,
who
is
a
newly
elected
member
to
the
house
representative,
Iams
representative
Nabors,
who
is
also
a
newly
elected
representative
representative
Roberts
representative
Schwann,
who
is
also
a
newly
elected
representative
in
the
house
representative,
Wesley
and
representative
Williams,
another
newly
elected
member.
So
welcome.
A
We
glad
to
have
all
of
you
all
part
of
this
committee
and
in
addition
to
myself
as
a
new
chair,
the
chairman,
the
committee
is
fortunate
to
have
representative
Dixon
a
veteran
of
this
committee,
serving
as
our
vice
chair
this
year.
We
plan
on
working
closely
and
have
been
with
representative
Dixon
throughout
this
year
and
in
the
future
to
help
us
as
we
guide.
A
This
committee
along
I
would
also
like
to
make
sure
the
members
are
familiar
with
our
committee
staff,
who
are
here
to
help
you
with
any
research
requests,
constituent
questions
or
Bill
and
Amendment
drafts.
We
have
with
us
committee
staff,
administrator,
John,
Snyder,
legislative
analysis,
Dana,
fugazi
and
Ashley
Nash
and
committee
assistant,
Christina
Williams,
so
welcome
and
thank
you
all
for
all
that
you
do
for
each
and
every
one
of
us
now
at
this
time
before
we
get
started,
I'd
like
to
go
over
a
few
procedural
items
in
this
committee.
A
Please
make
sure,
when
you're
in
a
committee
meeting
that
you
silence
your
phones
when
one
goes
off,
we
will
call
upon
you
to
see
what's
so
important,
to
find
out
for
the
rest
of
the
committee.
So
please
make
sure
you
silence
your
phones.
If
you
wish
to
be
recognized,
just
make
sure
that
you
get
the
attention
of
of
John
or
Christina
members,
and
we
will
be
sure
and
get
you
on
the
list
for
questions
when
you're
called
on.
Please
make
sure
that
you
route
your
questions
through
the
chair.
A
I,
don't
want
members
engaging
in
cross-examination
and
committee.
It's
not
what
we
do
right.
This
committee
will
observe
the
24-hour
rule
for
amendments
in
committee
for
our
regularly
scheduled
meetings.
Each
Monday
prior
to
one
of
our
meetings,
members
will
receive
an
agenda
along
with
any
amendments.
The
committee
will
hear
at
the
meeting
and
other
relevant
meeting
materials.
A
A
Seeing
none
first
on
our
agenda
is
House
Bill
13,
an
act
relating
to
requirements
for
school
bus
licensing
sponsored
by
representative
King,
representative
King,
is
making
her
way
to
the
table
with
their
guests.
E
A
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
just
behind
me.
We
have
the
Washington
County,
gifted
and
talented
group,
and
their
leaders
today
are
Allison
Carney,
cabrina,
Buckman
and
Melissa
Richardson,
and
also
hiding
behind
the
pole,
is
my
husband,
Carrie
King.
So
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
be
with
you
today.
E
I
also
have
very
special
guests
from
Jessamine,
County
and
I'll.
Let
them
introduce
themselves
here
in
just
a
moment,
but
I
think
everybody
is
aware
of
the
dire
need
for
additional
bus
drivers.
School
bus
drivers
across
the
state
and
I
would
love
to
have
my
special
guest
introduce
themselves
and
we
will
proceed
with
your
permission.
F
G
E
Today
we
bring
House
Bill
13
that
we
all
agree
will
really
help
with
the
school
bus
driver
shortage
across
the
Commonwealth.
If
you'll
look
at
your
one
pit
one-page
piece
of
legislation,
the
only
change
is
there
on
lines,
15
and
16
simply
changing
an
annual
physical
fitness
examination
to
24
months
and
with
that
I
would
love
for
my
very
special
guest
to
explain
the
need
and
how
this
will
correct
some
of
that
problem
and
we'll
continue
to
keep
the
safety
of
the
students
first
and
foremost,.
F
What
we
have
found
is
that
in
most
cases
when
we
have
bus
drivers
that
are
getting
their
physicals
with
the
doctors,
if
there
is
a
need
for
something
sooner
than
24
months,
the
doctors
will
initiate
that.
So
we
feel
like
getting
the
medical
professionals
advice
on
when
to
come.
Back
for
a
physical
will
provide
us
much
more
opportunities
to
keep
our
bus
drivers
on
the
road.
I'll
give
you
an
example.
We
have
several
bus
drivers
that
are
in
good
health
and
in
their
effort
to
try
to
schedule
this
additional
physical.
C
F
A
Motion
who
made
the
motion
representative
second
by
representative
Heaven
and
any
members
have
any
questions
representative
McCool.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr,
chair,
I,
appreciate,
I,
understand,
I,
think,
I,
understand
what
you're
doing
and
and
understand
why,
how
difficult
that
could
be,
but
I
do
have
some
reservations
changing
from
12
months
to
24
months,
and
it
just
is
a
concern
to
me.
The
reason
that
they
do
a
physical
is
to
see
if
you're
physically
fit
to
drive
the
bus,
which
is
a
very,
very
important
job,
and
we
all
know
that-
and
we
all
agree
upon
that-
no
question
about
that.
C
But
if
you
could
find
something
that
if
I
were
to
be
a
bus
driver-
and
you
found
something
that
probably
could
hinder
my
abilities,
then
you
find
out
sooner
in
that
one
year
time
period
than
you
would
extend
it
over
two
years
and
you
know,
hopefully
nothing
would
ever
happen,
but
I'll
just
have
some
reservations
about
extending
that
time
frame
when
it
could
impact
hoping
everybody
again.
The
safety
conditions
of
the
bus
driver
who
drives
their
children
to
school.
That's
my
reservation.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
This
is
more
of
a
question
towards
bus
drivers.
I
haven't
had
the
opportunity
I've
served
on
Transportation
last
session,
but
this
first
time
we
brought
up
the
bus
driving
concerns,
I
guess
the
director.
H
Could
you
tell
me
what
you
do
with
your
bus
drivers
as
far
as
health
insurance
in
my
County,
a
lot
of
them
drive
the
bus
for
health
insurance
absolutely,
and
so
we
wonder
why
there's
a
shortage
was
actually
they
worked
for
nothing
sure,
because
if
I'm
right
and
if
I'm
wrong
I
want
you
to
correct
me,
but
my
understanding
is
that
they
take
the
job,
so
they
can
get
a
family
plan,
so
their
their
families
covered
for
health
care
and
at
the
end
of
the
month,
when,
when
the
check
comes,
they
either
have
to
pay
a
little
bit
more
towards
the
health
insurance
or
maybe
it
comes
out
even,
but
can
you
elaborate
on
what
you're
up
against
sure
on?
H
If
you
don't
mind,
Mr
chairman,
if
this
is
open
for
discussion
on
this
I
know
that
doesn't
relate
to
the
bill?
But
if
you
don't
mind,
I'd
like
to
hear
what
we
have
an
issue
with
shortage
of
bus
drivers
and
I
thought,
this
might
be
the
opportunity
for
the
committee
to
hear
you
know.
Maybe
what
the
concern
is
it.
A
G
I
G
Fact
we
don't,
we
don't
typically
hire
anyone
that
that
doesn't
work
at
least
20
hours,
so
many
are
working
for
the
benefits.
I
just
was
working
with
our
group
to
try
and
do
a
social
media
marketing
campaign
and
trying
to
create
a
top
10
list
of
why
you
want
to
work
in
transportation
and
a
lot
of
those
responses.
Probably
half
of
them
said
the
benefits
health
insurance
and
one
driver
went
so
far
to
say.
G
D
All
right,
I
have
my
medical
card,
and
my
class
A
CDL
too,
but
mine
is
for
medical
purposes,
does.
Would
the
doctor
still
have
the
ability,
in
case
someone's
on
blood
pressure
medicine
to
doing
it?
So
this
is
I
mean
if
you're
in
good
health
and
you
pass
everything
the
eye
exam
and
everything
else.
This
would
be
24
months,
but
if
not,
they
still
have
they
can
back
it
up
to
a
year.
Can't
they
I.
F
D
B
J
J
A
D
A
A
E
A
And
thank
you
for
Kerry
for
being
here
next
on.
Our
agenda
will
be
house
concurrent
resolution
five.
It
is
a
concurrent
resolution
expression
support
for
the
Jones
act,
sponsored
by
representative
Bridges,
as
he
and
his
guests
will
make
their
way
to
the
table
and
representative
Bridges.
If
you
will
introduce
yourself
and
your
guest.
J
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
excuse
me,
since
representative
King
had
the
ability
to
introduce
her
special
guest
I'd
like
to
introduce
to
you
my
important
guest
but
I'm
representative
Randy
Bridges
I'm
from
District
3
down
in
Paducah
and
I
have
two
guests
with
me
and
I'm
actually
going
to
ask
my
important
guests
to
introduce
himself.
M
J
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
I'm,
just
going
to
share
a
couple
of
short
facts
and
turn
it
over
to
these
gentlemen,
but
many
people
don't
realize
how
important
the
maritime
industry
is
here
in
Kentucky
and
I
just
want
to
share
with
you
a
few
numbers.
First
off
Kentucky,
we
have.
J
664
miles
of
the
northern
state
line
that
borders
us
is
in
Ohio
River
is
the
Ohio
River
and
there's
over
1900
navigable
Inland
Waterway
miles
in
the
state
in
our
Commonwealth.
So
the
other
thing
most
kentuckians,
don't
know
that
Kentucky
ranks
fifth
in
all
states
per
capita
with
American
domestic
Maritime
jobs.
The
industry
employs
more
than
twenty
thousand
seven
hundred
individuals.
J
It
has
an
estimated
1.25
billion,
that's
not
million
that's
billion
in
annual
income,
and
the
industry
sector
adds
an
estimated
5.1
billion
to
the
state's
economy.
Moving
more
than
108
million
tons
of
freight
and
the
freight
is
valued
at
11.9
billion
dollars
and
up
until
a
few
years
ago.
That
is
as
much
as
what
our
whole
state
budget
was.
J
So
just
I
people
ask
me
all
the
time
why
why
are
you
so
interested
in
this,
and
these
numbers
speak
for
themselves
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
and
let
these
gentlemen
share
their
expertise
with.
A
We
have
a
motion
on
the
bill
and
I
think
the
presentation
they've
been
experienced-
maybe
they've
been
here
before
so.
Is
there
any
questions
who
who
made
the
motion?
You
got
it
all
right,
very
good
motion
to
be
measuring
questions
representative
Hale.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
may
I
ask
a
question
about
the
industry,
not
so
much
about
the
resolution.
Just
real
quickly.
I
In
the
interim
this
year
we
had
some
testimony
that
was
brought
before
our
interim
committee
about
at
that
point.
I
can't
remember
exactly
what
month
that
meeting
was,
but
about
the
water
level
being
so
low
that
a
lot
of
the
barge
traffic
was
not
able
to
maneuver
in
certain
areas,
has
has
that
improved
and
and
what
kind
of
an
impact
did
that
have
when
you
weren't
able
to
move
some
of
your
large
barge
Freight
on
that.
L
Thankfully,
the
Corps
of
Engineers
stepped
up
and
did
a
very
effective
job,
dredging
out
some
of
the
shallow
areas
on
the
Mississippi
River,
and
so
we
were
able
to
maintain
continuity
of
operations
and
bring
the
the
agricultural
products
from
Kentucky
and
the
Heartland
down
to
New
Orleans.
So
it
could
be
exported
to
World
Markets
foreign.
I
L
D
Watching
that
train
derailment
up
in
Ohio
close
to
the
Ohio
River
I've,
had
some
people
reach
out,
there's
some
bad
chemicals
that
could
leach
into
the
Ohio,
which
means
it's
coming.
This
way
do
y'all
have
concern
for
that,
or
is
that
any
of
that
I
know
it's
a
little
off
topic,
but
being
the
propeller
club
and
stuff
I'm
sure
it's
recreational
also,
we
all
do.
M
Yes,
sir
recreational
traffic
and
Commercial
traffic
have
to
co-mingle
on
the
navigable
waterways.
It's
interestingly
enough,
that
the
propeller
Club
in
Louisville
has
a
pretty
strong
presence
with
the
pleasure
craft
industry
in
Paducah,
we're
a
little
heavier
on
the
industry
side
of
things,
because
that's
the
Hub
of
the
western
Rivers,
if
you
will,
for
where
most
of
the
or
many
of
the
barge
Industries
either
have
home
headquarters
or
at
least
operational
headquarters.
M
So
the
the
interest
while
I
don't
know
about
the
rail
industry,
I
can
tell
you
that
there
are
numbers
that
would
show
that
moving
products
by
the
river
is
the
safest,
most
economical
way
to
do
it
and
the
most
environmental
friendly
way
to
move
those
Commodities
by
bulk
and
we're
talking
a
lot
of
Commodities.
You
know
from
grain,
Rock
Coal,
petrochemicals
oil
and
it
just
goes
on.
There's
break
bulk
products
of
all
types
that
could
go
in
barges.
M
So
I
would
just
emphasize
back
to
the
chairman
in
the
committee
that
he
keep
in
mind
that
Jones
Act
is
important
and
we
know
that
we've
got
a.
You
know
a
a
movement
on
that,
but
I
don't
think
it's
something
that
we
would
be
as
worried
about
in
our
River
industry.
A
A
J
K
C
C
A
A
Thank
you
all
I'm,
going
to
take
a
a
very
brief
pause
here
for
just
a
minute
for
those
committee
members
who
may
have
came
in
after
the
roll
call
and
you'd
like
to
Mark
your
presence
on
the
road
we
catch
them.
Okay,
so
he's
saying
he's
got
you
mark
president,
but
are
you
good
with
that
representative
I.
A
Okay,
very
good.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
on
the
agenda
is
review
of
administrative
regulations.
We
have
two
regulations
for
the
committee
on
review
on
our
agenda
today.
Those
are
600
Kar,
4
semicolon0110,
regarding
certification
of
disadvantaged
businesses
and
Enterprises
and
603
Kar
5
semicolon
350
regarding
off
highway
vehicle
safety
and
routes.
A
Members
were
sent
a
reg's
packet
prior
to
the
meeting
and
that
packet
is
in
your
folder.
We
have
John
Johnson
with
the
kytc
here
to
answer
any
questions
the
members
might
have
and
the
way
we
handle
the
regulations
for
new
members.
This
is
the
final
step
in
reg
the
reg
review
process.
We
will
review
the
regulations.
Members
may
ask
any
questions
they
may
have.
The
Committees
do
not
approve
administrative
regulations.
If
no
objections
are
raised,
the
regs
will
take
effect
after
the
meeting
where
our
counterparts
in
the
Senate
do
their
review.
A
A
N
John
Johnson
office
of
Legal,
Services,
Kentucky
transportation,
cabinet
and
I'm
here
with
executive
director,
Melvin
Bynes
and
branch
manager,
Jared
Stanley,
both
of
whom
worked
with
with
us
on
these
regulations,
their
preparation
and
Mr
chairman.
These
have
gone
through
the
RS
committee
during
the
during
the
interim
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
before.
A
N
Let
me
let
me
go,
let's
start
with
the
first
one
on
the
list:
that's
the
off-road
highway
vehicle
regulation.
It
tracks
the
amendments
to
KRS,
189
281
and
establishes
procedures
to
follow
on
the
the
pilot
program
to
set
up
a
local
government's
ability
to
use
State,
Highway
or
portions
of
State
Highway
roads
that
are
allowed.
Pursuant
to
the
regulation
and
statute
to
be
used
in
coordination
with
local
governments
and
the
transportation
cabinet
lays
out.
N
For
that
bill
very
good.
Thank
you.
The
second
regulation
is
a
regulation
D
dealing
with
a
we
receive
suggestions.
Let
me
begin
with
this
from
the
national
Federal
Highway
Administration,
regarding
regarding
some
changes
that
need
to
be
made
in
the
appeals
process
before
it
was
in
writing,
but
obviously,
with
the
Advent
of
covet
and
other
pandemic,
which
may
persist
in
the
future.
We've
changed
that
appeals
are
to
be
done
by
email
now,
and
we
give
the
address
to
that
location
that
was
not
in
here
before
we
reconstituted
the
certification
committee.
Well,
we.
N
What
we
found
upon
review
was
a
certification
committee
and
the
committee
that
reviewed
the
certification
committee
were
there
were
overlap
and,
and
essentially
what
happened
is
the
the
artists
and
the
OLS
were
on
both
committees.
So
we
thought
that
was
a
conflict.
We,
we
reconstituted.
The
certification
committee
moved
Audits
and
office
of
Legal
Services
on
the
review
process
of
that
in
case
there's
an
appeal:
okay,
because
that's
essentially
that's
essentially
what
that
Amendment
consists
of.
Thank.
A
You
for
very
thorough
explanations
and
the
members
have
any
questions.