►
From YouTube: Senate Standing Committee on Education
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
A
President,
we
have
any
members
participating
remotely.
You
may
vote
from
your
office
annex
if
you
are
off
campus,
you
may
not
vote
and
we
ask
that
you
also
please
unmute
if
you
do
wish
to
speak.
If
you
have
any
comments
to,
please
use
the
chat
function.
We
have
three
bills
for
considerations
today,
I'm
going
to
go
in
orders.
I
have
them
on
my
sheet,
the
first
being
house
concurrent
resolution
25.
This
is
representative
riley.
A
It's
a
concurrent
resolution
supporting
civic
education
and
declaring
the
third
week
in
september,
is
the
kickoff
week
for
america's
legislators
back
to
school
program
and
encouraging
the
participation
in
the
principal
for
a
day,
program
representative
riley,
welcome
to
the
committee.
If
you
would
identify
yourself
for
the
record
please
and
proceed.
C
Well,
basically,
you
you
described
earlier
exactly
what
this
is.
Very
simple
resolution
worked
with
the
kentucky
association
of
school
administrators
on
this
and
ronnie
caldwell,
but
basically
one
thing
when
I,
when
I
retired
from
it
after
34
years
in
education.
One
thing
I
realized
was
that
I
had
kind
of
lived
in
a
bubble.
C
I
had
lived
in
an
education
bubble
and
it
was
really
important
for
me
to
be
able
to
get
out
and
see
businesses
how
they
operated
and
all
kinds
of
other
things
that
I
hadn't
had
experience
in,
because
I
was
in
the
bubble
that
I
worked
in
well.
I
also
discovered
over
the
years
that
people
that
are
in
other
professions
are
in
their
bubble
and
they
work
in
the
areas
they
are
in
and
they
don't
always
understand
what
goes
on
in
the
in
the
education
world.
C
So
I
think
this
gives
an
opportunity
for
legislators
to
be
able
to
be
a
principal
for
a
day
and
find
out
what
principles
deal
with
on
a
on
a
daily
basis,
whether
that
be
an
elementary
school
or
middle
school
high
school,
because
it
is
a
different
world
and
they
have
different
responsibilities
and
different
pressures.
C
That
than
maybe
some
other
professions
have,
and
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
really
a
good
situation
when
we
both
try
to
try
to
realize
what
everybody
else
goes
through
and
get
out
of
our
bubble,
get
out
of
our
comfort
zone
and
do
that.
So
that's
that's.
Basically
the
reason
for
this
resolution
and
also
encourage
civics
education.
I
don't
think
we're
teaching
nearly
enough
civics
in
school.
You
know
oftentimes
and
I
think
all
you
guys
get
this
I'll
get
contacted
about
a
a
bill
that
has
nothing
to
do
with.
C
D
Thank
you,
representative
reilly.
If
you're
like
me,
you
probably
get
asked
the
question
how's
washington,
I
do
I
said
well,
I
haven't
been
there
for
about
a
year
so,
but
to
that
I
do
truly
believe
just
to
comment
representative.
You
are
right,
I
don't
call
it
a
bubble.
I
call
it.
D
We
all
just
kind
of
drive
in
our
own
lanes
and
we
really
don't
see
what's
happening
in
the
lane
to
the
left
and
the
right
of
us,
but
I
think
this
is
really
quite
a
good
opportunity
and
encourage
because
we
don't
have
monies
to
spend
in
school
systems
unless
we
have
businesses
working,
creating
jobs
and
creating
taxes.
D
E
Yes,
I
couldn't
agree
with
your
thought
more
again.
I
will
tell
you
what
I
do.
I
make
a
point
when
I'm
not
in
session
to
to
go
by.
You
know
five
or
six
schools
a
year
and
spend
spend
time
in
high
school
civics
classes
or
in
eighth
grade
classes,
or
even
even
in
elementary
schools,
either
reading
the
students
or
talking
about
civics
or
talking
about
the
legislation
legislator.
So
I
do
that
all
the
time
I
think.
As
a
legislator
I
mean
for
me
anyway.
E
This
is
my
favorite
committee
that
that
I
need
to
you
know,
be
in
growth,
in
education
and
and
and
and
meet
the
students
where
they
are
so
I
support
this
wholeheartedly.
I've
never
been
a
principal
for
a
day.
I've
been
teaching
sometimes
but
never
been
a
principal.
So
this
is
this
is
an
excellent
next
step.
I
applaud
you
for
it.
I'm
certainly
going
to
vote
for
it.
Thank
you.
Senator.
A
F
B
G
I'm
voting
yes
and
I'm
really
happy
to
see
this.
I
just
got
to
get
it
on
my
calendar,
because
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
I
would
have
probably
wanted
to
reach
out
to,
but
I
have
to
say
principal
for
a
day
specifically
exciting
to
me,
because
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
superintendents
and
more
time
with
teachers.
Certainly
principles
I
feel
like
are
one
of
those
missing
pieces
that
I
want
to
reach
out
more
to
this
summer.
A
Aye,
the
measure
does
pass
by
unanimous
vote
representing
raleigh
great
bill,
one
of
the
things
that
pre-coveted
that
I
always
did,
I
think
many
of
our
legislators
did-
was
get
into
our
school
systems
of
doing
some
educational
programs
to
talk
about
the
the
democracy
talk
about
the
bill
process,
and
this
is
an
excellent
way
to,
and
I
hope
that
once
we
get
past
covid,
when
the
principals
also
could
come
up
here
and
see
legislators
for
a
day,
that'd
be
reciprocal.
Both
ways.
H
A
Motion
for
consent.
Thank
you.
We
have
a
motion
senator
west.
We
have
a
second
from
senator
wilson,
all
those
a
favor
placing
concurrent
resolution.
25-0
consent
do
so
by
saying
aye
aye.
All
those
opposed
most
motion
moves
to
consent.
Thank
you.
All
next
bill
on
the
agenda
is
house
bill.
331
house
bill,
331,
the
sponsors
representative,
scott
lewis.
It's
an
act
relating
to
the
removal
of
a
local
school
board.
Member
representative
lewis
welcome
to
the
senate
education
committee,
sir,
and
I
would
just
ask
if
you
would
just
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record
proceed.
F
This
measure
house
bill
331,
is
basically
it's,
it's
not
a
very
complicated
bill,
but
it
puts
removal
of
locally
elected
school
board
members
on
the
same
path
through
the
attorney
general's
office
as
other
elected
officials,
and
it
just
basically
says
that
the
the
complaints
or
something
would
flow
through
that
office
from
kde.
I
President
lewis,
thank
you
for
bringing
this
this
issue
before
us
and,
as
I
was
reading
the
bill
and
studying
it
prior
to
the
meeting
it,
it
prompts
me
to
ask:
is
there
a
set
of
circumstances
or
a
cause
or
a
situation?
That's
given
rise
to
this
legislation.
F
Well,
I'd
say
it's
more
than
one:
thirteen
and
a
half
years
as
a
school
superintendent.
I've
witnessed
a
lot
of
different
things,
but
you
know.
Basically,
the
state
board
may
not
always
agree
with
the
local
boards
of
education
on
things
that
need
to
happen,
whether
it
be
their
school
calendar.
If
they're
open
or
closed
the
way,
they
run
certain
situations
me
personally,
as
a
school
superintendent,
I
had
a
building
that
they
wanted
to
close
at
one
time
and
the
locally
elected
school
board.
Members
didn't
want
that
building
closed.
F
You
know
there
was
some
pressure
I
think,
put
on
by
the
the
board
and
commissioner
at
the
time,
and
it
came
down
to
even
purchasing
window
air-conditioned
heating
units
as
they
went
out.
So
you
know
there's
more
than
one.
I
guess
example
of
why
I
think
locally
elected
board
members
should
be
removed
by
the
attorney
general
and
not
the
state
board
or
commissioner.
F
I
don't
have
knowledge
of
of
that
directly,
but
again,
I
think
this
would
take
out
the
chance
of
that
happening.
E
Representative
lewis,
let
me
say
that
you
know,
given
the
hectic
nature
where
we
are,
I
did
not
have
a
chance
to
read
this
bill
last
night,
I
I
I
read
it
right
before
the
meeting
started
today,
but
but
with
all
due
respect,
sir,
I
I
don't
see
why
this
shouldn't
remain
with
the
kentucky
department
of
education.
If
a
board
member
is
engaging
in
some
sort
of
negligence
or
or
or
criminality
or
or
malfeasance,
I
think
the
board
of
education
ought
to
handle
that.
E
I
don't
think
we
should
treat
these
board
members
with
with
preferred
gloves
over
school
superintendent.
You
keep
the
school
superintendent
in
here
and
and
take
out
the
board
member.
I
mean
I
I
that
that
that's
not
a
policy
me
personally,
I
can
get
behind.
Obviously
it's
on
it's
on
the
committee.
Obviously
there's
some
support
for
it,
but
I
I
just
think
the
current
law
dealing
with
school
board
members
is
fine.
I've
not
heard
of
any
misuse
by
the
state
school
board
dealing
with
local
board
members.
E
F
To
respond
to
that,
sir-
and
I
appreciate
the
question
and
comments
this,
this
bill
is
not
to
protect
bad
board
members
as
a
former
school
superintendent.
I
don't
think
we
need
bad
board
members,
bad
teachers,
bad
superintendents
or
anyone.
F
This
process
still
allows
for
the
removal
of
locally
elected
school
board
members
just
through
the
attorney
general's
office
or
people
that
have
a
better
understanding
of
how
to
remove
these
people
and
don't
have
to
you
know
the
state
board,
I
would
think,
would
have
better
things
to
do
than
investigate
or
remove
and
take
the
time
to
remove
a
locally
elected
school
board.
Member
and
that's
that's
the
reason
for
this
bill.
A
G
Question
first,
I
didn't
catch
the
attorney
general
thing
here.
So
can
you
point
me
to
the
page
or
the
where
we're
at
with
the
relation
to
the
attorney
general
and
that.
F
Process,
I
might
refer
to
the
school
board
person
here
from
the
kentucky
school
boards.
He
may
know
exactly
what
page
that.
J
J
That's
right
and
so
that
those
two
statutes
when
you
look
those
up.
That's
the
very
old
ouster
process,
where
the
attorney
general
it's
a
legal
proceeding,
they
can
take
you
to
court
and
that's
actually
more
commonly
used
than
this
state
board
process.
The
last
time
that
a
board
member
was
removed
from
office
was
because
they,
you
have
to
finish
12th
grade
or
pass
the
ged
a
board
member
claimed
to
have
done
that
and
then
eventually
was
demonstrated
in
court
that
that
was
not
true.
J
He
had
not
finished
the
12th
grade,
and
so
the
state
board
did
not
do
that.
The
attorney
general
took
that
board
member
to
court.
They
were
removed
from
office
and
they
appealed
all
the
way
up
to
the
court
of
appeals
here
in
kentucky,
and
in
that
opinion,
even
the
court
of
appeals
says
we
do
not
take
lightly
removing
any
elected
official
from
office,
but
in
this
case
that
is
warranted,
so
that
entire
process,
which
is
actually
the
more
common
one
that
has
come
up,
would
completely
remain
as
it
is
currently.
G
Mr
chairman,
a
comment
I
think
I
have
harped
on
this
started,
going
on
it
this
session
and
I'm
going
to
continue
on
it
when
we
are
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
balance
is
between
our
local
boards
and
our
state
board.
Our
local
boards
are
elected
the
local
boards,
whether
or
not
we've
seen
actual
threats.
I
feel
like
our
local
school
boards
don't
end
up
using
the
full
extent
of
the
authority
that
we
intend
to
give
them
by
making
them
elected
officials
more
often
than
not
it
turns
into.
G
I
don't
know,
let's
ask
somebody
else:
instead
of
taking
up
the
reins
like
they
should
and
being
in
control
of
our
local
districts
now
for
for
local
control,
school
boards
is
where
it's
at,
and
one
of
my
goals
is
to
empower
our
local
school
boards
to
actually
be
the
ones
in
control
of
our
local
schools.
It
sounds
crazy,
it
sounds
normal,
but
that's
it's
not
going
on,
and
I
think
this
is
a
fantastic
bill,
because
we
should
be
extremely
cautious
when
we
think
about
removing
someone.
G
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
and
appreciate
senator
southworth
senator
thomas
your
questions
on
this
because
I
read
this
last
night
and
I
was
definitely
a
no,
but
after
that
line
of
questioning
I'm
back
to
yes.
So
thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
Thank
you.
H
H
G
J
J
J
The
appointed
state
boards
seek
to
remove
someone
from
office
several
of
those
reasons
that
are
written,
there
are
kind
of
subjective,
and
that
is
where
we
have
seen
some
things,
including
recently,
where
whether
or
not
a
school
district
would
open
for
in-person
school
this
year,
which,
as
we
know,
is
a
very
sort
of
subjective
thing.
Some
communities
viewed
that
differently.
That
was
one
instance
where
someone
said
well.
J
H
J
A
D
A
A
The
last
bill
in
our
agenda
is
house
bill
163.
This
is
an
act
relating
to
teacher
certification.
The
bill
sponsor
is
not
present.
This
morning
has
another
commitment.
The
bill
sponsor
is
representative,
regina
huff,
but
in
her
absence
is
the
duly
capable
chuck
truesdale
from
the
kentucky
department
of
education
chuck.
Welcome.
We've
seen
you
a
lot
this
session
in
the
education
committee.
So
it's
with
no
surprise
our
last
meeting
to
have
you
back
with
us
on
the
last
bill.
L
L
It
would
simply
allow
those
who
have
retired
or
are
about
to
retire
in
the
next
year
to
get
a
10-year
emeritus
certificate.
As
long
as
they
meet
certain
standards
established
by
epsb
and
then
for
those
whose
certification
has
lapsed,
they
can
get
a
five-year
exception
certificate
under
the
same
conditions.
A
G
A
Second
senator
carroll,
all
those
in
favor
of
placing
house
bill,
168
or
163
on
consent,
dues
by
saying
aye,
all
those
opposed
motion
carries
chuck.
Thank
you
so
much
members.
I
want
to
thank
you
all.
As
of
today
going
into
the
veto
period.
This
should
be
the
last
meeting,
the
senate
education
committee,
always
as
we
stand
by,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
all
the
staff.
I
want
to
thank
the
hard
work
of
yvette
perry
for
chris
for
josh.
Everyone,
that's
been
a
part
of
this
education
committee.